WEBVTT - #739 Packers Unscripted: Denver downer

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime West and Hodkowitz. We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you here from our studios at lambeau Field and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately Wes. We're here to talk about another tough loss

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<v Speaker 1>suffered by the Green Bay Packers, this one nineteen to seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>the final score in Denver against the Broncos. And we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to go through this one blow by blow

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<v Speaker 1>by any stretch of the imagination, but boy is it

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating to see what felt like, in many ways a

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<v Speaker 1>carbon copy of the previous loss before the bye, A

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<v Speaker 1>big struggle in the first half offensively, a comeback that

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<v Speaker 1>puts you in position to give you a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>win at the end of the game, and then an

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<v Speaker 1>interception when you go for broke at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game when you're trying to make the big play.

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<v Speaker 1>The last two games have been have been very much

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's a script that the Packers have to

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<v Speaker 1>change moving forward, but it's one that they haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to change just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I watched the same game, you know, from what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in Vegas and then in Denver all the way

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<v Speaker 2>down to you know, the defense having to work through

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff, getting some key stops, but ultimately just giving

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<v Speaker 2>up that one additional drive that ends up being the

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<v Speaker 2>difference in the football game. I you know, obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>had a few days of process this thing now, And

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<v Speaker 2>as I wrote again as I often do in our

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<v Speaker 2>insider inbox Q and A, I think that's the maddening

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<v Speaker 2>part is you see these glimpses of really good potential,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see the talent of this football team, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just getting it to break out of its shell

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<v Speaker 2>early on has been such a struggle. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of lighthearted jabs on social media about hey,

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<v Speaker 2>could they just start in the second half, could you

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, spot them ten points? All that. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact of the matter is is that Green Bay wants

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<v Speaker 2>their identity to be what they've done coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>the break, and like Mike, let's just look at that

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<v Speaker 2>drive quickly. It was only three points after halftime, but

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<v Speaker 2>the ingenuity that the Dantavian Wicks throw the first down conversions,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Aaron Jones thrown in there. It

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<v Speaker 2>looked more like what the Green Bay Packers and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you and me more specifically thought this offense would

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<v Speaker 2>look like the first half. It seems like in some

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<v Speaker 2>ways the Packers have just gotten caught in their own

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<v Speaker 2>head in terms of just trying to make an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>happen and hoping that something ruptures. Defenses are playing them tight.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you and I said all last week, and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't to couch anything, it was just a statement

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<v Speaker 2>of fact. Denford did some good things. They showed progress

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<v Speaker 2>against Kansas City, and I felt like, to the Broncos credit,

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<v Speaker 2>they built on some of that going into this game

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<v Speaker 2>against Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was certainly, you know, certainly frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>to see, you know, the players and the coach are frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's frustrated to see the slow start once again. Where

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<v Speaker 1>the where the offense can't get going until the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's and I don't I don't know what the I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the solution is to that. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I could sit here and fill the whole show trying

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, you know, what the Packers can do

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<v Speaker 1>to fix their slow starts. I have absolutely no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what it's going to take to get them out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that Matt Lafleur and Jordan Love and

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<v Speaker 1>this cast of characters on offense is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of this because, as you said, they're better than that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've shown it, so at some point the tide

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<v Speaker 1>is going to turn. Here's my question for you with

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<v Speaker 1>regards to this game, just as as a different way

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<v Speaker 1>to go through this one. When you look back at

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<v Speaker 1>this one, what is your biggest regret in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what you saw, in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened a certain moment, whatever, What's what's your biggest regret

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel coming out of this Packers loss.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an excellent question for me. It's twofold. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>the offense and defensive side of the ball. Offensively, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we knew what the game was going to be with

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Jones. You're not going to have them for forty plays.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to make those count, and to some extent,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Green Bay did that. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the box score afterwards and it was ten

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<v Speaker 2>different receivers and nobody with more than what thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>receiving yards or something like that, it tells you that

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan loves seeing the ball well and he's making you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting the ball into people's hands. But it also shows

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<v Speaker 2>you that nothing ruptured. The Packers really struggled to get

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<v Speaker 2>an explosive play in this game. Their best play in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of a yardage standpoint, unfortunately, was the eighteen yard

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<v Speaker 2>pass to Luke Musgrave in which Kareem Jackson was penalized

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<v Speaker 2>with the unnecessary roughness hit that he's now since been

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<v Speaker 2>suspended for. Up until that, you know, Green Bay hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>really had a lot of like big opportunities to get

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<v Speaker 2>a chunk play, and you saw what happened after that catch.

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<v Speaker 2>They were able to go down the field to have

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<v Speaker 2>their best drive of the game. They were opportunistic in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone to make opportunities happen. Aj Dillon a

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<v Speaker 2>great opportunity, takes a dump off pass for twenty nine yards.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually get into what I would consider to be

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<v Speaker 2>Denver scoring territory based on the altitude getting over to

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<v Speaker 2>the forty four yard line. Maybe you need ten more

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<v Speaker 2>yards to be able to kick a field goal to

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<v Speaker 2>potentially win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think you necessarily even needed another first

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<v Speaker 1>down at least to get a shot at a field

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<v Speaker 1>goal based on Carlson's leg in the location. But sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to interrupt, No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just my really quick point on the defense. The

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<v Speaker 2>defense did a great job of adversity defense in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half, bending but not breaking, keeping points off the board,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was still only a two score game going

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<v Speaker 2>into halftime. But while Green Bay's offense got things together

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<v Speaker 2>in the third quarter, the Packers unfortunately end up giving

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<v Speaker 2>up that lone touchdown drive and at the very end

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, the Broncos just get too many yards.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a kicker that has just too much leg

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<v Speaker 2>and while Preston Smith did get that sack on Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson for no yards, that was the only sack Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay had of Wilson in this game. They didn't turn

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<v Speaker 2>over the football and they lost the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my regrets, my regrets from this one. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>lay I lay it out as kind of an ABC first,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that you caught a break with a deflected touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>catch on fourth down that you know could have sunk you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get some good fortune to go your way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to happen every week, and yet you

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<v Speaker 1>lose a game when you catch a big break like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a tough one to take. Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the Packers getting to the Denver forty four

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<v Speaker 1>yard line, and then your best offensive lineman, your multi

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<v Speaker 1>pro bowler, gets called for holding at absolutely the worst,

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<v Speaker 1>the most inopportune time. There from the forty four you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know loved run the quarterback draw. He was to

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<v Speaker 1>the forty maybe just inside it. You didn't even necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>need to get the next first down at the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four yard line to give Carlson a chance. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you get backed up ten yards. You're back on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the fifty year not in field goal range,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and you know, the tide, the momentum, their

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<v Speaker 1>shifts to the defense. I look. I'm not saying it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a penalty. I looked at I looked at the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty ticky tac call to be making with two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to go in a game, in my opinion, But they

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<v Speaker 1>threw the flag on a really, really good offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers had to pay the price for that.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one, my third, my third regret, was the

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<v Speaker 1>sequence more of a longer sequence of things, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was at the end of the first half because the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>after a lot of struggles on offense through one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half quarters, they put together a good drive. They

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<v Speaker 1>finally got some things going. You could see, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see the blocking was improving, some of the some of

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<v Speaker 1>the runs to the perimeter, we're getting we're moving the chains,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, converting some first downs. Unfortunately, the drive stalls.

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<v Speaker 1>But then your rook kicker Carlson misses his first kick

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. He'd been perfect up to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>He misses one. Obviously he was gonna miss one. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>you wish it hadn't been in that moment. But but

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<v Speaker 1>then as that sequence continues, the Broncos end up going

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards the other way in about thirty two seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it was looking like you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the locker room down six to three, you

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<v Speaker 1>were down nine to nothing because of that sequence at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the first half, instead of a three

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<v Speaker 1>point deficit, it's a two score deficit, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Yes, the Packers came out in the second

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<v Speaker 1>half and got things going and played the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>football you expected to see them play in Denver, but

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<v Speaker 1>for that deficit to be nine to zero, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when the defense did give up the one touchdown, suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes sixteen to three. The deficit was just larger

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<v Speaker 1>than it needed to be, than it should have been

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<v Speaker 1>based on the sequence at the end of the first half.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, the thing that is just absolutely maddening in

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<v Speaker 2>front strading is the Packers didn't just pitch the tent

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<v Speaker 2>and call it a day after falling down sixteen to three,

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<v Speaker 2>a time in which a thirteen point leads seemed a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more insurmountable than it really was. They rallied again,

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<v Speaker 2>They found a way to get points on the board,

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<v Speaker 2>ten points in that third quarter. They can find the

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<v Speaker 2>moxie and the guts in the fortitude to stay in

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<v Speaker 2>these games, but they just have not been able to

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<v Speaker 2>win them. And yeah, I think in the long run,

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<v Speaker 2>and it will benefit this team a lot of young

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<v Speaker 2>guys on this team that are learning to win right now,

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<v Speaker 2>how to win, what it takes to win. Because what

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to is what Matt Lafleur said, I

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<v Speaker 2>think going after the Saints game where they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to come back, it is not easy to win in

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<v Speaker 2>this league. I think sometimes we definitely lose sight of

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<v Speaker 2>that with the amount of parody. This is not one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty teen BCS system. You know, there's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two teams and they're all pretty dang good with some

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<v Speaker 2>good football players on it. And you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to survive the narrow margin of error. And for

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<v Speaker 2>this Packers team, young, old, whatever you want to call them,

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<v Speaker 2>it has just been a real test trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a broken record with regard to crunch time,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Packers have had four of their six games

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<v Speaker 1>come down to the very end, and they have executed

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of games once and they have failed

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the game three times, one in three.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you're two games under five hundred at two

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<v Speaker 1>and four. That's what determines your season and your what

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<v Speaker 1>your record says you are is what happens at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of those games. That being said, this leads to

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<v Speaker 1>my next question. And as I said before, I firmly

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<v Speaker 1>believe the Packers are gonna are gonna pull out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, last year it was five losses in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>seven losses in a span of eight games, and they

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<v Speaker 1>spun it around and got things going. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing can and will happen at some point this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question for you is, what do you take

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<v Speaker 1>out of this game, whether it's this game or just

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<v Speaker 1>what you've seen recently, heard recently, whatever it may be

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<v Speaker 1>that gives you the biggest reason for hope that this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is going to turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers ran for one hundred and thirty seven yards

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<v Speaker 2>in this game without a carry of more than fifteen yards.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't even break one, so to speak, in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the explosive gain aspect. You know, AJ Dillon is

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<v Speaker 2>running behind his pads more Aaron Jones knock on wood

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<v Speaker 2>as we're doing this show. Hopefully the hamstring came throw

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<v Speaker 2>ok for him and he'll be more available this upcoming

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<v Speaker 2>game against the Falcons. Yeah, why does that matter? It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just about running the football. It goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the most impressive stat about Jordan Love in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>courtesy I Believe of Pro Football Focus. The guy was

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<v Speaker 2>nine for nine for like one hundred and nine yards

0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and a touchdown off play action in this game, Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love did really well in terms of the play action game,

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<v Speaker 2>getting outside the pocket, making plays happen a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what hurt him for whatever reason it was when he

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<v Speaker 2>was facing even pressure and you know, being stuck contained

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<v Speaker 2>in the pocket. So those things tie together, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can see this running offense getting more comfortable

0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:11.479
<v Speaker 2>and getting a lot more confidence among itself. The penalties

0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of popped up again. Green Bay has to get

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<v Speaker 2>that straightened out. But this teams stuck together, and Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the Packers' final win and loss

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<v Speaker 2>record is going to be. I don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 2>all going to look like. I can't guarantee you this

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<v Speaker 2>team is going to be vastly better in December than

0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.040
<v Speaker 2>it was in September. But as far as the twenty thirteen,

0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that whole exhibition that you have to put on display

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<v Speaker 2>to show that you're capable of being a playoff team,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the challenge lies for green Bay. If you

0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.480
<v Speaker 2>dig yourself into an early hole here, what does the

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<v Speaker 2>second half of the season look like to get yourself

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<v Speaker 2>out of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you in that. When I see what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of hanging my hopes on and what I

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<v Speaker 1>see are the signs that this can be turned around,

0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.079
<v Speaker 1>it goes to it does go to how the Packer

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<v Speaker 1>are running the ball. We've seen it. We've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>the last two games. I thought it was even better

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<v Speaker 1>against the Broncos than it was against the Raiders. And

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I know, I started the show by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there there was this carbon copy thing with

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<v Speaker 1>all the struggles in the first half, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>comeback and then and then you know, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>turnover at the end when you're trying to win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, this the Broncos performance was a much more

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging and I don't want to overstate that, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a more encouraging offensive performance than the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>game for a couple of reasons. One is I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Packers were able to stay balanced that

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<v Speaker 1>even during the comeback when they weren't, they weren't busting

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<v Speaker 1>big explosive plays. They didn't have a seventy seven yard

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<v Speaker 1>you know, completion to Christian Watson to take up you know,

0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a huge chunk of the field. They were staying balanced

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<v Speaker 1>and moving the ball, and that being able to use

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<v Speaker 1>the run and the play action and not get into

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of a desperation mode until the very end

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. I thought that was a good sign

0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:18.319
<v Speaker 1>for where this thing can go. The offense also had

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<v Speaker 1>to do this very much on its own, because when

0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you think back to the Raiders game, there was the

0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.280
<v Speaker 1>interception by Rudy Ford gave them a short field, they

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<v Speaker 1>get a touchdown. Packers didn't have that. All of their

0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.800
<v Speaker 1>scoring drives in this game. They had to cover a

0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.800
<v Speaker 1>big chunk of the field to get points, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did have the one good drive in the first half

0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that didn't result in points, and then when they were

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<v Speaker 1>moving the ball at the end of the game, you

0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 1>get the penalty that sets you back. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>there were more signs in this game, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>another frustrating loss. And I'm not trying to sugarcoat anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there were more signs in this game

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<v Speaker 1>that the offense is starting to find something than we

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<v Speaker 1>saw in the Raiders and.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I just want to touch on quickly

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<v Speaker 2>because it kind of fellow up on what you said

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<v Speaker 2>last week. We were talking about our like MVPs or

0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.080
<v Speaker 2>whatever during the by and I still say KOI Walker's

0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.720
<v Speaker 2>had a find fine season so far. But you brought

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<v Speaker 2>up Russelle Douglas and I got to thinking more about

0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.680
<v Speaker 2>that throughout the weekend and then watching him in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Douglas is having the best year of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know he had the five picks or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, the guy's not being penalized. He is getting

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<v Speaker 2>pass deflections and it is getting very difficult for teams

0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.360
<v Speaker 2>to throw on him. He's playing physical ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we saw, we saw what Russell Russell Wilson, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no offense to Carrington Valentine. Yeah, who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had some rough definitely had some rough moments in this game,

0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.680
<v Speaker 1>filling in for Jayi Alexander. But Russell Wilson was like, Okay,

0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Douglas is over here. I've seen what he's done on film.

0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Carrington Valentine or rookie seventh round pick is filling in

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<v Speaker 1>for the all pro guy on the other side. And

0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Wilson went after him. You know that. And but that's

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<v Speaker 1>also because of how Russelle Douglas has been playing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing about Suell maybe some people don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize is he was the co Stand Up Award winner

0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.720
<v Speaker 2>last year for the Packers, as given by the PFWA

0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.520
<v Speaker 2>for his dealings with the media. The guy sat at

0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.920
<v Speaker 2>his locker for six minutes after the game, which you know,

0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.240
<v Speaker 2>for you know, in terms of like a road locker room,

0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 2>that's actually a pretty long media scrum. And he was

0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.720
<v Speaker 2>a very honest raw about how he's feeling about this thing.

0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.480
<v Speaker 2>He didn't throw anybody under the bus. He didn't throw

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<v Speaker 2>the offense under the bus, but he did have a

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<v Speaker 2>really poignant line when he was talking to the media

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<v Speaker 2>about how basically, I'm tired of seeing you guys, and

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<v Speaker 2>not to be He's not being routering, but basically saying like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming in here and I'm giving you the same

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<v Speaker 2>answers I've given you the week before. We are working

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<v Speaker 2>at it, we are trying, but ultimately it comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to winning. And you know, he was even kind of

0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.000
<v Speaker 2>throwing a little bit of a softball about having eleven

0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.640
<v Speaker 2>games left. He's like, yeah, but we got to win.

0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter how many games are left. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>win to be able to end this losing streak and

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<v Speaker 2>to feel what it's like to win a football game again.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else he had talked about earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas has been a guy that's really stick up for

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<v Speaker 2>this defense in terms of the leadership aspect of it,

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>without a Devandre Campbell, without Jaiyre missing you know, three

0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.240
<v Speaker 2>two or three games now, he has been one of

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.120
<v Speaker 2>the guys that has stepped up and I thought has

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<v Speaker 2>really led with his play on the field. And honestly, Mike,

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.920
<v Speaker 2>depending on what happens here with Jaws back, he could

0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.000
<v Speaker 2>end up being one of the really pivotal pieces for

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Bay Packers in the second half the season,

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.520
<v Speaker 2>much like he was in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I totally agree with you. There one more question

0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to throw at you before we shift gears

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. There are a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>are ailing the Packers right now, but if you had

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<v Speaker 1>to point to the one thing that you feel would

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<v Speaker 1>be at the top of the list, the most important

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<v Speaker 1>key to getting this thing turned around.

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.200
<v Speaker 2>It was a thing I let inbox with. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even about the fast starts, because that's becoming kind

0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.800
<v Speaker 2>of like this catch all. Yeah, Mike, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to see what it looks like if the Packers go

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<v Speaker 2>out and put points on the board on the first drive.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying, oh, if you win the coin toss,

0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.360
<v Speaker 2>you have to take the ball. No, you can defer

0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.399
<v Speaker 2>until the Cows come home. Yeah, but I'm saying when

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<v Speaker 2>the offense it's out there for the first time, what

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<v Speaker 2>does it look like if you go into halftime? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking back to that Chicago game. I know it's

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.800
<v Speaker 2>difficult for fans to do that right now, but the

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Packers put up thirty eight points in that game and

0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:15.000
<v Speaker 2>really impose their will against the Bears, and we haven't

0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.040
<v Speaker 2>seen that again since then. So I just feel like

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.960
<v Speaker 2>this team, the doubts or whatever could be creep into

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.399
<v Speaker 2>your mind after you go three and out or you

0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 2>give up some points early on defensively, if the Packers

0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.200
<v Speaker 2>can get out to a lead, what does it look

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.639
<v Speaker 2>like with those third quarters, if you actually have some

0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.439
<v Speaker 2>points on the board and you have some of that

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<v Speaker 2>momentum in your favor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I was going to say as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest key to turning this around, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that the Packers, as you said it,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as a fast start, It's not that the

0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Packers need to jump out ten nothing or fourteen nothing

0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.879
<v Speaker 1>or seventeen nothing on a team, but they need to

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 1>just stop playing from behind because once you get behind,

0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 1>then you're only one possession away from being multiple scores behind.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we've seen has come hounded itself with

0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.440
<v Speaker 1>this team. If you can, if you can, just if

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you can stay not just not just stay in the game,

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>because they were obviously in the game and it was

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>only a one score game in Denver until the field

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.520
<v Speaker 1>goal right at the end of the first half made

0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.640
<v Speaker 1>it a two score game. But if you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>get the lead, even if it's just seven to three

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 1>or seven to six or ten to seven or whatever

0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it is, even ten to ten at halftime something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can just be in that situation heading into

0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.199
<v Speaker 1>the second half as opposed to coming out of the

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.480
<v Speaker 1>locker room and feeling like your backs are against the

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.440
<v Speaker 1>wall again like they were against Detroit, like they were

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>against the Raiders, like they were against the Saints before that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is you know, the Saints game was

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<v Speaker 1>a victory, but this is this is four games in

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<v Speaker 1>a row now where the Packers are playing from behind,

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's just that's not a life you can continue

0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to live if you want to, if you want to

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.359
<v Speaker 1>be able to find success on a regular basis. And

0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the biggest reason that they've that they're two and four

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.320
<v Speaker 1>right now is bec as they're playing from behind way

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<v Speaker 1>too much.

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.879
<v Speaker 2>And this game specifically, Mike. People can make whatever jokes

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 2>they want to make about the Broncos, but I'm telling

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 2>you what, man Sean Payton Russell Wilson, those are two

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 2>pool sharks there. When they look at a nine to

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 2>zero halftime lead, it's affecting the way they look at

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the rest of that game.

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Hunter.

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson is not pressing to make plays. If his

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.160
<v Speaker 2>defense is playing well, He's going to let his defense

0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 2>play and live to see another down.

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Hey, the Raiders did the same thing with Garoppolo. It's

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>not like Garoppolo was chucking the ball over the field.

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Raiders. The Raiders, they felt their defense

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was playing well. They knew the Packers were struggling on offense,

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.199
<v Speaker 1>and even when the Raiders did get behind, it's not

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they just said, Okay, we're going to grind.

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 1>We're going to grind this thing out. And they were

0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.399
<v Speaker 1>confident that they that they could get the one score

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they needed and then their defense was going to hold up.

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.040
<v Speaker 2>And then the last thing I'll say about Wilson, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of a storyline last week you and

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<v Speaker 2>I touched on in terms of his weight, the way

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.120
<v Speaker 2>he's playing this year, Russell Wilson from twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>this game might end up turning out a lot different.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you looked at some of those pressures that

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Lucas Vans had that Rshawn Gary had right off the bat. Yeah,

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.560
<v Speaker 2>they only had three quarterback hits in one sack, but

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that the times in which he was

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 2>truly under duress, he was able to flush out of

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 2>the pocket, keep his eyes downfield and make a play.

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 2>And then when he needed to, he also was able

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 2>to pick up some yards with his feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did that. That's what's set up the chip

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 1>shot field goal at the end of the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the scramble that was a real killer for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>a backup quarterback against another backup quarterback for the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>But suddenly they light up the scoreboard at Soldier Field

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<v Speaker 1>and they get a win. The Detroit Lions go on

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the road against the Baltimore Ravens. They're five and one.

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Folks are wondering because the Niners and the Eagles had

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<v Speaker 1>both just lost a game. Are the Lions the best

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 1>team in the NFC? Maybe? Well, the Ravens had something

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to say about that. The Lions took one on the chin. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as we had talked about before with them, how do

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<v Speaker 1>they handle success? Well, now, how do they handle this

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>amount of adversity because that was a rough day for

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 1>them in Baltimore. And then the Minnesota Vikings, who will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them a lot more on our next show

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<v Speaker 1>with them being the Packers next opponent here at Lambeau field.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Vikings, no Justin Jefferson on offense, no Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Davenport on defense, and the San Francisco forty nine Ers,

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<v Speaker 1>who everybody figured would be steaming hot, spit and tax

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<v Speaker 1>mad after that loss in Cleveland. Well, lo and behold.

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins completes thirty five passes, three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>whatever some yards passing, and the Minnesota defense holds off

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>brock Perdy and that Niners offense with interceptions two interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, and the Vikings suddenly, after an

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>zero to three start, are three and four with a

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<v Speaker 1>victory over a team that many thought just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago was the best team perhaps in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, I want to start off with the

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago game because I wish this Raiders team would have

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 2>showed up at Allegiance Stadium when they faced the Packers,

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 2>because that was one of the worst offensive game plans

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen. Honestly, the Bears did exactly what the

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Raiders should have done, and maybe that is the key

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.640
<v Speaker 2>for Chicago moving forward. Is Deontay Freeman. Man. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why no one wants to sign this guy long term,

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>but he's like a rent to running back and he

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 2>will come in there and he will produce yards for you.

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 2>And they did it at will against a Raiders defense

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought looked really good against Green Bay in terms

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>of at least not rupturing right and offensively, you have

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Brian Hoyer stepping in for an injured Jimmy Garoppolo, and

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 2>they just once again, forget that Josh Jacobs exists. This

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>seemed to me like a game where Josh Jacobs should

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.479
<v Speaker 2>have covered, should have ran the ball twenty five times.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, they're they're in whatever happened with DeVante, happened whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you have a backup quarterback in there

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>that's lost twelve straight starts and suddenly he's throwing the

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<v Speaker 2>ball thirty two times.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't I said to you in the press

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<v Speaker 1>box in Denver. I didn't even understand why they didn't

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.479
<v Speaker 1>just stick with Aidan O'Connell, the rookie from Perdue, who

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, he had some turnovers and whatnot in his

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>one start there against the Chargers, but he gave them,

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he gave them a chance to win, you know. And

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>yet and yet now Garoppolo goes down and they decide,

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<v Speaker 1>they decide they have to turn it over to Hoyer,

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<v Speaker 1>who was who was frankly off. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're ever looking for a way to completely

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.880
<v Speaker 2>take the air out of your blown after winst bring

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.719
<v Speaker 2>up that football game. You'll learn something from it. But

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the Lions, man, I'm telling you, Mike,

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>that's just the league. Like people are already saw some

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff like, oh, are they a fraud? No,

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 2>the Lions are a really good football team, and so

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>are the Baltimore Ravens. And I thought the Ravens were exceptional.

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson was amazing in that game, and the Lions

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 2>just were not able to make anything happen offensively. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. I still view Detroit the same way I

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 2>viewed them going into Sunday afternoon. Yeah, very dangerous team.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I do too. I mean we saw it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers had three consecutive thirteen win seasons under mattin Floor,

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and every season there were there there was at least one,

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>sometimes more than one, just regular season dud game where

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you just got it handed to you. And it happens

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to everybody in this league, and it happened it happened

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to the Lions, and you know, they're they're a very

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>curious case because because they're in a position that their

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>franchise is not used to being in. And how are

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they how are they going to handle the ups? How

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>are they going to handle the downs? You know, they

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>have a target on their back as the team on

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>top of the NFC North right now, and you know,

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>but it happens in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>Lastly, I'll just say this quickly about the Vikings and

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>an expertly played football game. Kirk Cousins gets his win

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 2>in prime time, but more importantly, Jordan Addison stepping up

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>the way that I think the Vikings needed him to

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 2>in the wake of this justin Jefferson injury. You look

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>at Daniel Hunter defensively, I thought did some really good

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 2>things in that game. And then lastly, I just have

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 2>to say it because we take for granted so much

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>what Harrison Smith does in this league. And he's older

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>now and I'm sure physically he's probably not the same

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>player he was five years ago. But my goodness, man,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 2>when you have such a smart, heady safety playing on

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>top of your defense, what a difference that makes, you know,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 2>depending on where they're at in their career. But I

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>just there's just something to be said for that in

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the leadership that he provides. I was super impressed by

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 2>what the Vikings did in that game and really made

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Brock Purdy and the forty nine Ers mortal. They had

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>a they were coming off a tough loss against the

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Browns, and the Vikings said, you know what, we're

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>going to take a piece of this too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and and you know the forty nine Ers

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>dealing with their own adversity. They don't have Deebo Samuel

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Trent Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he I don't believe he did.

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe he played. You know, their their stud

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>left tackle wasn't in there able to tell you though.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's it's the kind of it's stuff

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that happens in this league. It's the kind of stuff

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that every that every team deals with. We will talk

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>more about the Vikings on our next show. We'll also

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>provide you know, one thing we didn't get to with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to the Broncos game is the injuries that have

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>continued to pile up for the Packers. But when we

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>do our next show, the Packers will have their Wednesday

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>practice under their belt, will have at least a first

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>glance at the injury report for the week, and we

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>can try to provide, you know, try to lay out

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the landscape of where things are with the health of

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>On our next episode, Big Dean Lowry at a fumber

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<v Speaker 2>recovery too against the forty nine ers. Don't you pick

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<v Speaker 2>up on that or not?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did not because I missed a good

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>chunk of the first half. I did watch the second

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>half of the game, and yeah, kept waiting for the

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers to just look like the forty nine ers,

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<v Speaker 1>and other than a couple of plays here and there,

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>they really didn't. And so but a lot of football

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>left for them, a lot of football left for the

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Packers as well. With that, we'll call it a rap

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Packers Unscripted. You should follow all

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<v Speaker 1>of our coverage of the team on Packers dot com

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<v Speaker 1>for Wes. I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you next time.