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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida,

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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and Jeff Logerman. Keep you informed and up

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Speaker 1: to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show starts right now.

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Speaker 2: And welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It is the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from

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Speaker 3: Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center.

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Speaker 3: We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University

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Speaker 3: of Florida, number.

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Speaker 2: One university in the US News and World Reports, number

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Speaker 2: one state for education. JP Shadrick, Jeff Logoman.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen will join us week one of the regular

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Speaker 3: season and now for the Is it the fourth consecutive show?

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Speaker 2: Third consecutive show?

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Speaker 1: Fourth?

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Speaker 4: Fourth? Two?

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Speaker 5: More? I mean this one and one more? Miami? That's right,

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Speaker 5: and headed bys right now? I think we do we

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Speaker 5: agree to five or four?

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Speaker 6: We agree to five, so we got one more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's next week because we don't have a show

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Speaker 3: in two weeks during bye week.

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Speaker 5: We'll be in Miami next week.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 7: You guys gonna be hanging at the pool and drinking

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Speaker 7: drinks with umbrellas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like what you have up there in

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Speaker 2: your office. Yeah, it might be nice.

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Speaker 8: You and James up there sipping umbrella cocktail drinks while

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Speaker 8: the rest of the group's down on the field sweat

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Speaker 8: nice shady spot.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, we gotta keep nice and cool and

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Speaker 7: got to protect our skin from the sun.

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Speaker 2: I see that, James Gladstone.

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Speaker 7: You know it's actually the one place you can see

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Speaker 7: everything too. Is the benefit?

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Speaker 2: You definitely have a Yeah, nice, pretty nice?

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Speaker 3: All right, fellas scrimmage today, yep, coming out of it.

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Speaker 3: What's the feeling after the two hour or so workout today?

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Speaker 4: James Stilling a spot where I think the identity of

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Speaker 4: this football team is showing itself, starting to take shape.

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Speaker 4: And I think with every one of these competitive settings,

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Speaker 4: we get a chance to continue to see that come

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Speaker 4: to life. And now we get a chance to to

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Speaker 4: step away from just doing it against ourselves yet again

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Speaker 4: and take the road, take the show on the road

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Speaker 4: to New Orleans and do that in an entirely different setting. Right,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be on turf for the first time, going

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Speaker 4: to be indoors, So all that stuff is, you know,

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Speaker 4: an opportunity, just like it was this past weekend, to

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Speaker 4: you know, practice a few of the things that we

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Speaker 4: want to sort of implement here in the early going

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Speaker 4: and see how it shows itself, see how guys work

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Speaker 4: together or not, and then take steps forward from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think in any situation, any practice, and

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Speaker 7: this was obviously heavy on the team side, very similar

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Speaker 7: to the scrimmage we had in the stadium a week ago.

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Speaker 5: There's always good and bad.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's stuff that you really like you see

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Speaker 7: in the physicality, and I thought our defense showed up

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Speaker 7: at certain times and you could feel them seeing Dennis

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Speaker 7: Gardek out there and some of the new guys that

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Speaker 7: here like really step up their game from the physical standpoint.

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Speaker 7: O Well, I thought the first drive by the offense,

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Speaker 7: you know, very efficient operations look good. At the same time,

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Speaker 7: there's things that you got to clean up otherwise you're

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Speaker 7: gonna lose football games. And I think one of the

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Speaker 7: things that we have to clean up. The head coach

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Speaker 7: has been preaching it and has been holding the line

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Speaker 7: the game. People are gonna hold. You know, you never

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Speaker 2: You just had hands that a face like every other play.

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Speaker 7: It was not called back then, so I used it

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Speaker 7: can control the metal side. And I think one of

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Speaker 7: And so that's a concern and that's something that you

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Speaker 7: never want to lose the game or lose the down

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Speaker 7: before it even starts. And you know the old saying,

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Speaker 7: don't beat yourself. You we're gonna play seventeen games, and

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Speaker 7: we're gonna play good football teams. And we've said this

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Speaker 7: seventeen to zero, obviously, but you know, teams are gonna

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Speaker 7: the scoreboard. And that's part of competing in any situation.

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Speaker 5: But as a player, as a coach.

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Speaker 7: As an organization, what we don't want to do is

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Speaker 7: help the other guys win games where you lose, lose

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Speaker 7: it down, lose a game, throw away a series, whatever

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Speaker 7: the situation is because of mental errors, things that you

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Speaker 7: that's when you have to say, Okay, we got a

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Speaker 8: Well and kind of alone life Starry James below those

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Speaker 8: lines of taking care of your business so that you

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Speaker 8: do not hurting yourself the self inflicted wounds. Go to

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Speaker 8: the defense against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a little lake getting

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Speaker 8: lined up and a lot of talk about getting the

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Speaker 8: example of how you can help yourself out. But what

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Speaker 8: I loved about today's scrimmage is that as a coaching staff,

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Speaker 8: you admit where you messed up, and you recognize where

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Speaker 8: today you've got simulation kind of going on of games

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Speaker 8: to help correct that whole process of communicating the call

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Speaker 8: to the defense and getting lined up worked on it

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Speaker 8: all week. To me as an analyst, I sat there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be addressed, right, it can't just

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Speaker 4: And that's such an important piece because it's never all

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Speaker 4: And those sorts of things are what you're working through

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Speaker 8: And per question for you, James, you know when you

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Speaker 8: have players that come in and for me, as you know,

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Speaker 8: the analysts, talking head kind of person. You know, you

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Speaker 8: they show you maybe some other skills and other talents

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Speaker 8: what my thinking was about this guy was for this position,

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think that has shown itself certainly throughout the

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Speaker 4: definitely been pleasant surprises or wow, I didn't see that

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Speaker 4: And that's been a pleasant part of this all. And

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Speaker 4: it's the discovery phase. And like I said, we're still

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Speaker 4: discovering the identity of this football team. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I think as those parts all come together, it'll be

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Speaker 4: become pretty vivid here early in the season for us.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, we got.

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Speaker 4: To get tested, We got to be stressed and see

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Speaker 4: where the true colors show. And that's really what I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to, any of these competitive settings that we

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Speaker 4: can produce, knowing that ultimately it's not until Week one

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Speaker 4: versus Carolina that they actually count to the win loss column.

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Speaker 6: We're going to try and take advantage.

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Speaker 4: Of them and make it so that any what might

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Speaker 4: failure but a lesson and things that we can apply

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Speaker 3: James Gladstone, Tony Bisselli with us. It is the Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida. All Right, all

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Speaker 3: of Duval's wondering how the emotions were in the suite

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Speaker 3: game one.

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Speaker 6: How well, I can tell you this.

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Speaker 4: When that kick went through the uprights, Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 6: You know, folks got to be on notice. All we

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: But I will say that's not a It's interesting when

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Speaker 4: you when you think about end of half, right, it's

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Speaker 4: it's a more suitable time to give that a go

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Speaker 4: than maybe first quarter or things like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you got to have the perfect circumstance.

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Speaker 5: That's right, because if you miss that, they're in point play.

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Speaker 8: The other thing too, I think that and I brought

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Speaker 8: That by thirty three and catching a little dump off

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Speaker 8: a thirteen yard game, and then has the wherewithal to

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Speaker 8: I thought that was really impressive by baseial tooting in

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Speaker 4: You know what that's so that is with explicit intent.

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Speaker 4: There are segments throughout each week that our coaching staff

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Speaker 4: puts together that is specifically focused on situational masters and

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Speaker 4: obviously that that type of stuff is prepped in advanced

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Speaker 4: are plenty of instances where high level situational mastery has

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Speaker 7: You can say whatever you want about it. With seventy

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Speaker 5: And you know, and even when we kick it off

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Speaker 7: You know. You keep on keep on working, keep on

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Speaker 2: We'll come back in a moment. We'll get in the

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Speaker 5: Well, let's go games one Jay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, goes Eric. Hurry, there's a little tibbot. We'll do

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, tipping kicking operation. I'm an expert at

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Speaker 3: can we get the couch for skinnered that'd be fun.

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Speaker 3: I don't have it, but yeah, just go sit there.

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Speaker 3: Just go sit there and say, hey, I was told

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what they say. That won't go so well.

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Speaker 3: No, probably not. I got one more thing, and I

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Speaker 8: I heard that that you guys have that system thing

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Speaker 2: What is it called?

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Speaker 5: It's called track man, Okay, it kind of.

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Speaker 5: Tony has studied this.

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Speaker 2: You are all in on this.

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Speaker 7: Yes, we currently have a track manas track man track

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Speaker 7: man is in golf. They use it to check launch angle,

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Speaker 6: Because we got so close just so.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's got something to say about just about it.

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Speaker 4: He's an expert, subject matter expert on just about everything,

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Speaker 5: Then he said, I wish you'd do this more often.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that position group on the whole has been a

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Speaker 8: He called that amphibious. Yeah, he was trying to figure

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Speaker 7: One of the things that why we were so drawn

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't just say since camp about how we viewed

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Speaker 7: the construction of this offensive line, and James did a

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Speaker 7: great job of leading us and really highlighting that as

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Speaker 7: we went into free agency and start looking at players

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Speaker 7: in the draft and how we wanted to approach this.

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Speaker 7: So having depth there is important, but also having guys

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Speaker 7: that have the flexibility, the talent, the mental capacity to

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Speaker 7: play multiple positions, because now we're asking guys that we're stressing,

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Speaker 7: guys like a Chuma, like a Patrick McCarey, like a

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Speaker 7: Wyatt Millan who's a rookie we've seen Joe and to

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Speaker 7: play center, right guard, left guard, same practice, and to

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Speaker 7: have the ability to do that and still operate at

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Speaker 7: a level that we feel like is trending in the

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Speaker 7: right direction and could become a starting level quality type

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Speaker 7: of player. So I think it's the approach we've kind

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Speaker 7: of believe in. It's been executed, and hopefully it continues

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Speaker 7: to produce the fruit that we would like to see well.

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Speaker 8: And part of this whole process of where you're at

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Speaker 8: now is trying to figure out what that roster is

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Speaker 8: going to look like. You know, the numbers game, so

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Speaker 8: to speak, at each positions. Is that James, that you

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Speaker 8: and Liam and Tony have talked about, about, Hey, look

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Speaker 8: this position group, here's the number that we're looking at.

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Speaker 8: Or does does the actual talent level at each position

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Speaker 8: group impact that number of what you're going to keep?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have your traditional numbers that are typically on

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Speaker 4: the fifty three man roster. You give a little bit

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Speaker 4: of flexibility saying, hey, this is a position we want

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Speaker 4: to be deep at. This is a position we need

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Speaker 4: to be deep at. It's one that has natural attrition.

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Speaker 4: Or say hey, as an example, typically you carry ten

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Speaker 4: defensive backs. How you split that up between corners and

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Speaker 4: safeties can vary, can be six and four, can be

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Speaker 4: five and five right, and dependent on the versatility of

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Speaker 4: one of the players or multiple players within those position

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Speaker 4: groups who can vacillate between the two right, So you

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Speaker 4: have a little flexibility with that. How would you label yesterday?

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Speaker 7: I was going to say, no, we've never talked about

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Speaker 7: this and no conversations all. It's an extensive conversation. I

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Speaker 7: think it's intensifying the closer we get to the moment,

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Speaker 7: and it's a it's a conversation where you got to

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Speaker 7: be honest, you got to be straightforward and listen you

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Speaker 7: obviously the coaching is involved in this.

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Speaker 5: I mean obviously the head coach.

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Speaker 7: But you want perspective and it's all part of the process,

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Speaker 7: and it's a continuous evaluation. So as you go through camp,

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Speaker 7: I mean you have in your mind and as we

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Speaker 7: go through it, you start doing your roster rankings and

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Speaker 7: looking at it. But you have to have the flexibility

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Speaker 7: and be agile in your own mind not to get

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Speaker 7: rooted in what you see, especially early, and be okay

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Speaker 7: of having the ability to change your mind because different

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Speaker 7: data comes in, you see different things. The great saying

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Speaker 7: that I don't want to quote the wrong coach who

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Speaker 7: said this, but I've heard multiple people with.

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Speaker 6: One that.

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Speaker 7: People are allowed to get better, like players are allowed

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Speaker 7: to get better, And I say, I think so often.

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Speaker 7: What happens if you're not careful is you get rooted

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Speaker 7: in a belief. You get rooted in I don't like

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Speaker 7: this player, and then that clouds how you view them

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Speaker 7: while all the time they're getting better. I catch myself

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Speaker 7: doing it all the time.

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Speaker 2: There's players that go the opposite way, too, And.

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Speaker 7: There's players that you say, hey, maybe we drafted him here,

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Speaker 7: or are we paying him this much money, or I

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Speaker 7: really like them as an individual or whatever, and all

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Speaker 7: of a sudden, you find yourself giving them the benefit

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Speaker 7: of the doubt and maybe overvaluing. And if you're not

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Speaker 7: comfortable having really direct, honest conversations, then you're gonna get

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Speaker 7: in trouble because all of us as humans have these

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Speaker 7: biases that we fall in love with certain things or

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Speaker 7: fall out of love, and sometimes it can be hard.

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Speaker 7: And one of the things I've appreciate about the way

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Speaker 7: we communicate in the group that we have is, I

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Speaker 7: don't I know James is unafraid to check me on

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Speaker 7: saying huh really, And I think James has learned.

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Speaker 4: Tony's humble enough to allow me the luxury to do

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Speaker 4: that without getting them.

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Speaker 7: But also there's like you have to otherwise you're gonna

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Speaker 7: make like really dumb decisions. And and what I appreciated

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Speaker 7: about the process so far, and again, we have done nothing.

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Speaker 7: We're not keeping score yet. We are just in the

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Speaker 7: process and so let's not get too excited and and

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Speaker 7: you know, break our arms patting ourselves on the back.

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Speaker 7: But my belief is if you continue to have those direct,

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Speaker 7: honest conversations and not be rooted in what you think

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Speaker 7: you saw. It's one of the first things I told

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Speaker 7: James when we met, I said, listen, I will be direct.

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Speaker 7: I have strong convictions, like you guys know, I think

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Speaker 7: I know everything, but they are loosely held. And that's

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Speaker 7: something I've tried. I learned in business like I have

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Speaker 7: strong convictions like this is what we're gonna do, but

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Speaker 7: I am unafraid to change my mind and be wrong

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Speaker 7: if new data comes in a different perspective, because I've

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Speaker 7: looked back on life and I've made really stupid decisions

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Speaker 7: when I get rooted in something that's just not true.

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Speaker 4: See things as they are, not as you wish them

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Speaker 4: to be. Right, And so the reason why I asked Tony, hey,

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Speaker 4: how would you label yesterday? To go back to your

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Speaker 4: original question, it was a player's day off, so our

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Speaker 4: coaches had a little bit more bandwidth to begin some

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Speaker 4: of the more structured dialogue as a part of this. Right,

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Speaker 4: we're through one preseason game, we have two more to go,

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Speaker 4: so we had a fairly extensive conversation yesterday about a

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Speaker 4: lot of those counts positionally, side of ball, etc. And

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Speaker 4: what some of the things to look for over the

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Speaker 4: course of these next two weeks need to be and

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Speaker 4: how we need to maybe take action off of it.

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Speaker 6: Right in preparation for some of those Hey James talking.

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Speaker 7: To I'm gonna play and I'm gonna play the role

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Speaker 7: now you yes, I am, so just tell them to

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Speaker 7: relax for a second. Commercials will come when they come.

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Speaker 7: This is what I used to Doe, JP Crazy and

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Speaker 7: everyone over in the other room. James talk a little

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Speaker 7: bit because I love James said this yesterday and he

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Speaker 7: said it to me before. It was a great perspective

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Speaker 7: because listen, this is the first time I've been in

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Speaker 7: this type of role. James has actually been doing this

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Speaker 7: for the last nine years and different iterations in different

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Speaker 7: spots within the front office, and so it's been a

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Speaker 7: lot of fun the learning for me and understanding like, hey,

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Speaker 7: this is good stuff and let me absorb as much

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Speaker 7: as I can. But talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 7: different perspective of where we sit maybe in the clouds

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Speaker 7: coaches and the weeds, which is just the exact opposite

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Speaker 7: it comes to the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something that you know in the anything in

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Speaker 4: the off season, especially with player acquisition, pro free agency,

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Speaker 4: the draft, I'm in the weeds, so to speak, and

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Speaker 4: to lead up to those decisions, I am deep in

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Speaker 4: the nuances, the finer details. Typically a coaching staff enters

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Speaker 4: the equation and they're flying at thirty thousand.

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Speaker 6: Feet so to speak.

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Speaker 4: They are coming in providing their perspective without a ton

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Speaker 4: of the intricate knowledge that may be underneath the surface,

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Speaker 4: and they provide their thoughts, and that can be really

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Speaker 4: helpful to a decision maker.

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Speaker 6: I value that.

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Speaker 4: I think that it's important to be able to zoom

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Speaker 4: out and change alter perspectives. Tony and I what he

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Speaker 4: was writing on my board before we walked in here

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Speaker 4: was off the heels of a podcast around decision making

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Speaker 4: and how maybe distancing from decisions can be a helpful

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Speaker 4: part of helpful exercise before actually making them. But this

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Speaker 4: is a technique to do that, and I think it

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Speaker 4: flips when we get to this part of the process

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Speaker 4: and that our coaches are in the weeds with our players.

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Speaker 4: They know the intent behind every play, they know the techniques,

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Speaker 4: they know everything that goes in. They know the nuances

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Speaker 4: behind why an offensive alignment should take, what step right,

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Speaker 4: those types of things. But Tony myself, any scout is

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Speaker 4: actually zoomed out. Just like we're up on a perch.

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Speaker 4: We're watching, not all that different from somebody sitting in

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Speaker 4: a stance. Right, we don't know explicitly the details and

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Speaker 4: intent behind every single play call or everything every single

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Speaker 4: coaching point. So it is going to be a slightly

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Speaker 4: different perspective that can help somebody maybe think about it

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Speaker 4: a little bit differently. And so there's value that's right,

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Speaker 4: that's right, it's yin and yang, and so that was

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Speaker 4: one of the things that I definitely I highlighted a

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Speaker 4: little bit yesterday, but I just wanted to, I guess,

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Speaker 4: tap back into that knowing that it can be a

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Speaker 4: part of the equation just for any listeners, knowing that

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Speaker 4: those things can be useful. But no one right way

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Speaker 4: is no one way is going to be the right

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Speaker 4: way all the time, right, So it does take a

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Speaker 4: little bit of humility from everybody to be able to

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Speaker 4: listen and respect that dialogue.

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Speaker 2: You guys got time for one more little segment.

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Speaker 5: We'll come back if it's really short, because we're over

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Speaker 5: our time right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're the ones gone through commercial breaks.

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Speaker 5: I think that was the buzzer a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: Back in a moment one final thought, we'll get their

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Speaker 3: thoughts about what to expect on Sunday in the Superdome

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Speaker 3: in New Orleansist Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back.

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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues

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Speaker 1: right now. J. P.

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Speaker 3: Shatrick Jeff Logovan, Toby Vasselli, James Gladstone, Final moments.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, We're back, and we're back. James. What do

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Speaker 2: you want to see preseason week two?

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Speaker 3: What's a successful night for the Jags in the Superdome

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Speaker 3: on Sunday or Day?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously, I think safe to say that

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Speaker 4: a cleaner operation is something that is within the controllables

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Speaker 4: and should in fact show itself in preseason game two,

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Speaker 4: knowing that it was certainly a point of emphasis here

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Speaker 4: this week. Uh, and making sure that we execute, you know,

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Speaker 4: make sure when guys get the ops, they're able to

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Speaker 4: come through, make the plays that they're supposed to and

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Speaker 4: and even more than that right be able to earn

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Speaker 4: there's their place on this roster, if not here, somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: But would like to see all that start to show

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Speaker 4: itself in a in a more consistent way, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would echo the clean operation. I'm just having

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Speaker 7: a clean operation from the sideline to the huddle, huddle,

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Speaker 7: line of scrimmage to snap. Just having a nice clean operation.

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Speaker 7: I mean that'd be that'd be a very positive I think,

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Speaker 7: continue the physical brand of football that are that we

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Speaker 7: are asking our players to play with. We've seen it

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Speaker 7: in practice. I thought there was good physicality in that

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Speaker 7: Steelers game. Wasn't perfect, but they were physical. James highlighted

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Speaker 7: that the toot and play that was a physical brand

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Speaker 7: of football. So I want to continue to see that

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Speaker 7: progress and that really become part of that identity. And

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Speaker 7: then I think anytime in preseason you want to come

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Speaker 7: through injury. For you, obviously it's you know, it's a

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Speaker 7: it's a physical game. You know, it's so you want

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Speaker 7: to try to get all your guys to the start line.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, you got to practice. You

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Speaker 7: got to practice football to play football and to get

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Speaker 7: better at football. So it's that fine line of, hey,

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Speaker 7: we got to get the reps, we got to get

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Speaker 7: the time in, and I think everyone just, you know,

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Speaker 7: you're hoping that everyone gets through cleaned.

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Speaker 5: On both sides.

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Speaker 7: You know, at this time of year, you want all

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Speaker 7: the best players to be able to get to the

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Speaker 7: opening day and go play football. So, uh, those would

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Speaker 7: be kind of three things that I think are.

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Speaker 4: I think beyond that though, too, as I just think

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Speaker 4: about it a little bit more. It's easy to go

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Speaker 4: to all right, here's some areas where we didn't meet

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Speaker 4: what we would have considered standards, right, But also I

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Speaker 4: would love to see it that in critical moments, critical situations,

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Speaker 4: we continue to show some positive science like a fourth

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Speaker 4: down conversion on drive one, Yeah, a fourth down stop

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Speaker 4: from our defense, seventy yard.

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Speaker 6: Field goal, right, that type of stuff.

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Speaker 4: But when it matters most your best shows up. And

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Speaker 4: so that did present itself last week. Can we stack that?

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Speaker 4: Does it remain consistent? And so that's a positive that

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Speaker 4: you'd like to see continue to be a positive as

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Speaker 4: opposed to let's call it a negative. Get better, right,

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Speaker 4: So that's all the element that I.

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Speaker 8: Would always want to see a significant jump from week

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Speaker 8: one to week two. I mean, that's always what you

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Speaker 8: want to see the most because that's usually when you

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Speaker 8: see big improvement too.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, James Tony. We'll do it again in Miami

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm the beach and to make sure, but don't

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Speaker 7: wonder what. I know you're gonna be hanging at the

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Speaker 7: pool all day drinking umbrella drinks, and I want to

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Speaker 7: make sure you show up professional dress, professional, you know,

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Speaker 7: not a couple adult beverages in Why would you say that, Well,

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Speaker 7: just rumor has it that you like to know what rumor?

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Speaker 2: Has it? This shows over?

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Speaker 5: How about has it you like the pool?

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Speaker 3: Get out of the studio, go back to your office.

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Speaker 3: Tony Basel, James Gladstone and Pond's good for JPN.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate the invite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, You're always welcome, James, Tony. It's the Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohen Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: We're back on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the

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Speaker 3: University of Florida Number one university and the US News

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Speaker 3: and World Reports Number one state for Education. JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Logeman, Fourth Straight Show, James Gladstone and Tony Vasselli.

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Speaker 2: And they just keep getting better and better. I think

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Speaker 2: there's always a little smirking going on. It's like inside jokes.

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Speaker 2: And so for the people that, uh.

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Speaker 3: What where where can they watch it? To where they

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Speaker 3: get the video? To YouTube, YouTube and X it's a yes,

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Speaker 3: they're both websites.

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Speaker 8: They got they got to get it there because it

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Speaker 8: is it is very entertaining to watch the looks that

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Speaker 8: these guys.

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Speaker 2: Have between the two of them. It is fun. It

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Speaker 2: is pretty fascinating to see them. They've there.

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Speaker 3: I liked I loved his answer, but both their answers

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Speaker 3: on yeah, we're having conversations. They started really having them

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Speaker 3: yesterday about how you're going to break down the fifty

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Speaker 3: three I have the quick changes.

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Speaker 8: How he was talking about being in the weeds versus

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Speaker 8: you know, thirty thousand feet, you know, from perspectives, and

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Speaker 8: you know how you know the scouts and the personnel

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Speaker 8: people are in the weeds, so to speak. And then

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Speaker 8: now that the practices and games are being played, the

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Speaker 8: coaches are the ones that are down the weeds, and

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Speaker 8: then his perspective is a little bit different. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's just it's cool. And the whole thing about the

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Speaker 8: preconceived notions I think is very interesting to me because

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Speaker 8: a lot of times you have them and some of

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Speaker 8: them are warranted, and some of them, you know, do

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Speaker 8: you trust them, you know, to be uh.

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Speaker 2: To be repeated.

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Speaker 8: So I think all that's very interesting when it comes

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Speaker 8: to making personnel decisions with a roster. Let's come back

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Speaker 8: in a moment, Well, you know what I wanted to

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Speaker 8: ask him that I didn't ask him, But yeah, was

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Speaker 8: the numbers. Give us a breakdown on the numbers of

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Speaker 8: each position, because you know, James threw out a couple

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Speaker 8: numbers that are fairly standard.

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Speaker 2: The ten number for defensive back.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes people consider that the same for offensive linemen, but

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Speaker 8: that's always evolving based on the talent you have.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into the offensive performance in the scrimmage today

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Speaker 3: when we come back. It's the Liam Cohen Show on

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back.

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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues.

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Speaker 3: Right now Jaguars football is officially back and be there

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Speaker 3: as number two overall draft pick Travis Hunter, the quarterback

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, and the entire Jaguars squad take the field

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Speaker 3: for the first time in twenty twenty five on the

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Speaker 3: Jags taking on the Panthers September seventh. Go to Jaguars

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Speaker 3: dot Com, slash tickets or Coldinlano four six three three,

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Speaker 3: two thousand and one o'clock kickoff time, JP Shaddick, Jeff Logoman,

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen Show continues. We'll have the head coach in

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Speaker 3: week one of going into that Panthers game. Right after

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Speaker 3: the turn of the calendar into September our thanks to

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Speaker 3: James Gladstone Tony Bacelli earlier offensive performance. Jaguars had a

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Speaker 3: scrimmage today on the practice field. They set up benches

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Speaker 3: on both sides. They had the coaches off to the sideline,

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Speaker 3: some in the balcony upstairs, and basically went through an

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Speaker 3: entire football game today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was a great exercise.

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Speaker 8: You know, the when you got a new coaching staff

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Speaker 8: and new coordinators, it's a it's a great exercise to

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Speaker 8: the mechanics, I think is also you know, when we

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Speaker 8: had Mark Duffner on earlier, the former Jaguars linebackers coach,

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Speaker 8: we talked about the mechanics of lining up to get

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Speaker 8: ready to play. Well, there's also mechanics that exist for

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Speaker 8: coaches to make a play call, you know, getting the

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Speaker 8: personnel grouping from somebody that's high in the sky in

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Speaker 8: the booth right so that he can give you a

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Speaker 8: personnel grouping, so you, as a defensive coordinator play caller

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Speaker 8: can get a personnel grouping, observe the down and distance,

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Speaker 8: and then put your defense in the best position possible.

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Speaker 8: So that process needs to be better for the Jaguars,

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Speaker 8: and then also the assimilation of the information on the

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Speaker 8: field needs to be better from the player standpoint so

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Speaker 8: that the performance can be better. You have a better

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Speaker 8: chance of success when you get lined up cleats in

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Speaker 8: the ground, so to speak.

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Speaker 3: It's in one of those weeks finding the cleats in

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Speaker 3: the ground, the alignments and assignments and.

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Speaker 8: Such, and so that's what I loved about today. It

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Speaker 8: was a great opportunity to practice some more of those mechanics,

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Speaker 8: the things that you struggled with in preseason game number

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Speaker 8: one against Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh ran kind of a tempo offense,

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Speaker 8: but it was sometimes a little different in that they

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Speaker 8: would huddle, but then break the huddle and then hurry

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Speaker 8: to the line, So it was sometimes it was truly

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Speaker 8: no huddle. Sometimes it was just breaking the huddle and

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Speaker 8: getting to the line fast. And so it's kind of

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Speaker 8: two different situations, but you got to be able to

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Speaker 8: deal with all of them.

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Speaker 3: Let's come back putting more ahead on the Liam Cohen

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Speaker 3: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back to Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida. Don't miss your

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Speaker 3: chance to score an exclusive Brian Thomas Junior bibblehead and

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Speaker 2: I had to pick one game out of those three,

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Speaker 2: right Jets?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, that'd be a tough one. That bibblehead

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Speaker 3: look great on the desk though. Oh it would look

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Speaker 3: like right here in front of us. That would be

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Speaker 3: very good.

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Speaker 2: Wonder if we have sources. How many guys got bibbleheads?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a bibblehead? I do not of me? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: do you know? No, I've never had a bibblehead. No,

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Speaker 2: I have not.

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Speaker 3: It'd be pretty cool to have, like JP bobble You

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Speaker 3: know who does have one? Joe fortune Ido has one?

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Speaker 3: Does he from his previous employer?

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Speaker 2: I think they stopped production of that like thirty years ago.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the original bibbleheads, like from the sixties. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a pretty cool bibblehead. No, uh yeah, those

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Speaker 3: things are awesome. Man, who's the.

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Speaker 8: Most famous bobblehead of all time? What do you mean,

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Speaker 8: who's the first bottlehead?

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Speaker 3: Well, they had like the old ones that had like

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Speaker 3: just the general guy with NFL stuff on him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like the I think that's that would be an

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Speaker 8: intra'd be a good trivia question. Who was the first

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Speaker 8: bobblehead of all time? Maybe we'll look that up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And how weird is that one o'clock Sunday Sunday one

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Speaker 3: o'clock prec again here in the Dome.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, it's not gonna be.

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Speaker 8: No, I know, but I don't think I've ever had

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Speaker 8: a Sunday afternoon one o'clock kick, which actually is twelfth

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Speaker 8: Central one o'clock in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I've never.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I've ever, and I probably have

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Speaker 8: and I just have forgotten. But it's just very rare,

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Speaker 8: if anything, you might have a Saturday afternoon You.

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Speaker 3: Know what that means for us here in Jacksonville studio.

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Speaker 8: Dinner plan Sunday night. You just get home in time

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Speaker 8: for dinner. I mean, it's fantastic. I like it because

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Speaker 8: New Orleans is not that long on a flight, no,

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Speaker 8: for you know, when you fly direct on the team charter,

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Speaker 8: which we won't be on the team charter.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, no, we won't.

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Speaker 8: We won't dig into the But anyway, looking forward to

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Speaker 8: the game, looking forward to New Orleans. And I will

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Speaker 8: tell you this, I like New Orleans because it's got

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Speaker 8: really good food.

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Speaker 2: And I can't wait. Because I was telling you earlier.

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Speaker 8: I was in New Orleans years ago and I happened

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Speaker 8: to find this place, Gus's Fried Chicken, and I'm going back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's gonna be one of those. It was so good.

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Speaker 2: I ate two meals. It's gonna be one of those Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have two meals this time, but I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have a good one.

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Speaker 3: We're back in a moment final thoughts ahead of the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Saints Matt Jeffers Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from

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Speaker 3: Florida Rolls Along. I thanks to James Gladstone and Tony

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Speaker 3: Boselli joining us in the first gosh forty minutes of.

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Speaker 2: The show tonight.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week down in Fort Lauderdale

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Speaker 3: from the Team Hotel ahead of the Dolphins Jaguars matchup

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Speaker 3: at preseason Week three, and then we'll have Liam Cohen

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Speaker 3: Week one of the regular season logs. What are you

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Speaker 3: looking for in the game Sunday under the roof in

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Speaker 3: the Superdome.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think first I want to see the evolution

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Speaker 8: of Travis Hunter in playtime.

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Speaker 2: You know, could he actually be a true.

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Speaker 8: Two way player this week where instead of you know,

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Speaker 8: there was last week was a focus on one and

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Speaker 8: then the other? Could he do both at the same time.

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Speaker 8: Really going to watch the running back rotation, the positions

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Speaker 8: that are played by the offensive lineman and then linebacker.

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Speaker 8: Those things I think are definitely bear worth watching live.

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Speaker 8: We'll throw one other thing out there, the performance of

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Speaker 8: the safeties, because that is like one of those positions

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Speaker 8: that is unsettled yet and the performance is going to

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Speaker 8: have a lot to do with who gets the nod

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Speaker 8: on starting opening Day.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out Sunday, one o'clock eastern kickoff time for

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Speaker 3: the Jags and the Saints at the Superdome in New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Loghman J. P. Shattuck are thanks to James Gladstone,

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Speaker 3: Tony Rosselli, Joe Fortunado, David job, Brent Reaver, Tyler Stid

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Speaker 3: of our entire crew. This is the Liam Cohen Show

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Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network,