1
00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,840
Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

2
00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:10,520
Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

3
00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,680
Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. The bill didn't seem that concerned about it,

4
00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,960
Speaker 1: and that made me feel good. That made me feel good, Like,

5
00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, he's okay. If he's okay, I'm okay. I

6
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,400
Speaker 1: just just yes, Paul, Mike Tomlin. As much as I've

7
00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880
Speaker 1: gained respect for him, I love you. Really have to

8
00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,160
Speaker 1: come out and say, I'm not afraid of sudden deff.

9
00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't fear. I never have. Okay, you have missed

10
00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,239
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Put it away. I think it's a

11
00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,240
Speaker 1: great move for the Patriots. Okay, Patriots writer on Twitter,

12
00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,400
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't make this stuff up. I just

13
00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,320
Speaker 1: can't make it up. This is a really good signing

14
00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,600
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Peppers played more in the slot last season.

15
00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,320
Speaker 1: Just one time. I want someone to say, I'm not

16
00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640
Speaker 1: sure I get this one. The beauty of the Fred

17
00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,960
Speaker 1: model of arguing of just move the goal around. All right,

18
00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,560
Speaker 1: that's going alright, alright, alright, alright, that's going too far.

19
00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,640
Speaker 1: I like it before, but not anymore. Jeff, I'm just

20
00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,760
Speaker 1: clearin it's the new eighteen. Yeah right, just the show. Sorry, Eric,

21
00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,520
Speaker 1: about the sky had the name gun and I thought

22
00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,160
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting. Okay, well you're wrong. This is Patriots

23
00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:20,440
Speaker 1: Unfiltered fueled by Dunking. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered.

24
00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,640
Speaker 1: It is Tom I mean Thursday here at stadium and

25
00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,200
Speaker 1: another edition of Patriots Unfiltered. The gang's all here, you know,

26
00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,640
Speaker 1: Eric triumphantly back from the owners meeting. Who was it

27
00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,200
Speaker 1: you were trying to replace me with no one? This

28
00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,959
Speaker 1: is this is the show. Oh okay, Deuce is here,

29
00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Eric's here, Paul's here, I'm here, Matt's in the booth,

30
00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,080
Speaker 1: and we're talking Patriots for the next two hours. Um.

31
00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,240
Speaker 1: But you know, not a lot of new Patriots news. Um.

32
00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,040
Speaker 1: But Tom Brady, huh, I mean, we gotta gott he

33
00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't do it. We got criticized, you know, I don't

34
00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,480
Speaker 1: because we didn't mention when he unretired. But I don't

35
00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,920
Speaker 1: think now we know why he had tired and we

36
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,280
Speaker 1: know why Bruce arians is moving to upstairs. It's because

37
00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,280
Speaker 1: Tom said that's what you're gonna move upstairs. Yeah. Oh

38
00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,400
Speaker 1: I love it. I just said. It cracked me up,

39
00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,680
Speaker 1: and it was so predictable, having been on the other

40
00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,320
Speaker 1: side of it of all the Bucks bloggers and writers saying, no,

41
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,840
Speaker 1: there's a plan, they're gonna do all long, and it

42
00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,000
Speaker 1: was just you know, and and who knows exactly how

43
00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,440
Speaker 1: it went down, but just ninety percent of the rest

44
00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,400
Speaker 1: of the NFL world. It's like with Tom, Tom's at

45
00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,760
Speaker 1: work behind the scenes, pulling the strings, and you know,

46
00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,160
Speaker 1: now it's Todd Bull so like you know, Byron left

47
00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,079
Speaker 1: which and Tom we're gonna have their little offensive me

48
00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,919
Speaker 1: and he's like, we're good, Todd, We're all set. Don't

49
00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,880
Speaker 1: worry about it. But we got we got it. We

50
00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,519
Speaker 1: got it. Tom runs Tampa well. And it also kind

51
00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,320
Speaker 1: of like, you know, makes you think a little bit

52
00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,200
Speaker 1: about that report from Wickersham that won two Bella check

53
00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,360
Speaker 1: out and one of Bill O'Brien, so he's won for

54
00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,080
Speaker 1: two he tried before. I was intrigued though, by the

55
00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,280
Speaker 1: the Dale Arnold report that you know, he was still

56
00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,320
Speaker 1: in negotiation with Miami, not necessarily as a player, but

57
00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,200
Speaker 1: I was more intrigued about the part ownership part because

58
00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,320
Speaker 1: that I could see as a carrot. And we know

59
00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,799
Speaker 1: Miami has done that with celebrities and people before, So

60
00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, like, would he want to have a piece

61
00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,880
Speaker 1: of an NFL team? I think that maybe yes, But

62
00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,200
Speaker 1: if he did that, I'd have to cut off ties.

63
00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,080
Speaker 1: How can you celebrate the part owner of another team?

64
00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,600
Speaker 1: Could mean you did kiss him. I know I'm as back,

65
00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,080
Speaker 1: but uh, could you play for a team that you

66
00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,720
Speaker 1: didn't own? Like, let's say he decides to become an

67
00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,600
Speaker 1: owner or an ownership group with the Dolphins and he's

68
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320
Speaker 1: still playing with the box. Kind of a conflict, right,

69
00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,960
Speaker 1: he bets then he's betting against Miami on Tampa. Yeah,

70
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,920
Speaker 1: it gets crazy. You can't really do that, right, No,

71
00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be ethical, but it was

72
00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,040
Speaker 1: could play if you owned the team, Like he could

73
00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,400
Speaker 1: buy the Dolphins and be like, I'm quarterback now. Yeah, absolutely,

74
00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,640
Speaker 1: I did find that as a fan, I did find

75
00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 1: an interesting. We reminded that Dale Arnold was actually one

76
00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160
Speaker 1: of the first people on Brady to Tampa, Right, That's

77
00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,840
Speaker 1: why people gave it some credibility. Yeah, because usually he's not.

78
00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Every now and then he pops

79
00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,520
Speaker 1: up with something. But this would to me seem like

80
00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,039
Speaker 1: no dice on that now, right, I would assume you know,

81
00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 1: unless you know, the whole ownership's things on hold until

82
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,320
Speaker 1: he really does retire. Yeah, my other favorite why not?

83
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Like then, I was thinking, well, you know, I the Crafts,

84
00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,159
Speaker 1: it's it's the Craft family, it's Jonathan and Robert. You know,

85
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,080
Speaker 1: probably Josh has a piece as well. You know, But

86
00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,839
Speaker 1: would they ever like give somebody like Tom Brady you know,

87
00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,719
Speaker 1: five percent? You know, I mean if they didn't do

88
00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,760
Speaker 1: it already, I don't think there's gonna be another player

89
00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,520
Speaker 1: coming along that they would consider it with. Right, Well,

90
00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you can do it while he's because

91
00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680
Speaker 1: of the CBA rules. Yeah, you know, they tried that

92
00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 1: with Elway. I think, well, it wasn't exactly ownership was

93
00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,479
Speaker 1: stock stock options or something like. Basically, that's what they

94
00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,880
Speaker 1: were trying to get. You can't you can't supplement their

95
00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,880
Speaker 1: income right anyway? Right, you know? But can you dangle

96
00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,400
Speaker 1: it like can everyone know it's coming? Dangle that carrot? Uh?

97
00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,000
Speaker 1: You know, like we know it's coming, but it's not

98
00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,360
Speaker 1: going to happen with that get around that. I mean

99
00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,080
Speaker 1: don't Well, as long as he's not playing for the team,

100
00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,400
Speaker 1: I still think that it could if you if the

101
00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,440
Speaker 1: guy was playing and you didn't want to give more money,

102
00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,599
Speaker 1: but you said, once you retire, you'll get a piece.

103
00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,159
Speaker 1: I think the league would still look at that as supplementing.

104
00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,200
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, you'd have to you'd have to get

105
00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,000
Speaker 1: around it. Yeah, but it seems like Brady back in

106
00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760
Speaker 1: Tampa and maybe for a couple of years. And I

107
00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,000
Speaker 1: do wonder if you know, like I have sort of

108
00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,600
Speaker 1: thought all along the Miami thing, the validity to it.

109
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,200
Speaker 1: I think that was the grand plan was for him

110
00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,920
Speaker 1: to go to Miami. Yeah, I do think two years ago. Yeah,

111
00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,240
Speaker 1: but even now, like I think that his retirement was

112
00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,520
Speaker 1: a power play to get to Miami. I think there's

113
00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,080
Speaker 1: enough sort of smoke around that. And I wonder, you know,

114
00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000
Speaker 1: possibility here. I'm not saying it's true, but possibility that

115
00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe, you know, Arians, this wasn't part of

116
00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,560
Speaker 1: the plant, you know, so now Arians maybe was just like, no,

117
00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to get rid of you know, he

118
00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,960
Speaker 1: was pretty adamant at the combine, you know, five fa picks,

119
00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 1: that business, that business, right right, Yeah, all right, Bruce,

120
00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,040
Speaker 1: you go away. We're gonna do this. You go, you know,

121
00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,440
Speaker 1: if you want to, you don't want to be part

122
00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,240
Speaker 1: of it, you go upstairs. It's out there. We'll pay you,

123
00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,640
Speaker 1: but you know, we don't want you as part of this.

124
00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,359
Speaker 1: And maybe this does pave the way for them to

125
00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,719
Speaker 1: make a move with Miami. Maybe it's gonna be funny now,

126
00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,599
Speaker 1: but but after all that talk now and I'm leaving. Yeah,

127
00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,560
Speaker 1: you know it's right, But that's not a good look

128
00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,800
Speaker 1: for him. But it would be very obvious. But you know,

129
00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, at the very best I think for Brady,

130
00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,520
Speaker 1: he forced to head coach out. Yeah, like I think

131
00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,720
Speaker 1: that's the best. He looks well. He he walked up,

132
00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,840
Speaker 1: could be a lot more slapped arians in the face

133
00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,800
Speaker 1: and then he walked off and they wanted them to leave,

134
00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,600
Speaker 1: and he said, no, right, but what's Tom gonna let

135
00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,160
Speaker 1: him do in the front office? Now? Is he gonna

136
00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,960
Speaker 1: come down to So guys, how's how's the game plan coming? Like, Bruce,

137
00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,000
Speaker 1: you're out, get out here, Bruce is show up. He's

138
00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,160
Speaker 1: just gonna collect the page. I just wonder if where's

139
00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,320
Speaker 1: hats And because wars hats, the Miami stuff won't go away.

140
00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,680
Speaker 1: And on the surface, you look at it and said,

141
00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,480
Speaker 1: there's no way he could play for Miami this year

142
00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,800
Speaker 1: unless Tampa. Let's yeah, unless, unless, unless, unless they get

143
00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,440
Speaker 1: somebody to replace Tua, and then that that ends it.

144
00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, now we've got our big quarterback, you know,

145
00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 1: like if they signed you know, or if they draft

146
00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,000
Speaker 1: a first round pick or something like that. You know,

147
00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,000
Speaker 1: but right now, you know, I'm saying the low way

148
00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,040
Speaker 1: that Brady can play for Miami unless Tampa lets him,

149
00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,000
Speaker 1: is my point. Oh yeah, and I'm wondering if maybe

150
00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,120
Speaker 1: arians was the big stumbling bluff because he's so stubborn

151
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,600
Speaker 1: and he's been so adamant about it. Maybe Tampa, you know,

152
00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,840
Speaker 1: maybe Jason Light is saying, oh this is you know,

153
00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,160
Speaker 1: we maybe do something that can set us up here

154
00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,000
Speaker 1: for the next five years. But it seems to me

155
00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,600
Speaker 1: like it's now okay, Bruce has gone. That's what it seems.

156
00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,400
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. Yes, I'm giving you the

157
00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,880
Speaker 1: X five. Yeah, there's still a possibility. I mean, this

158
00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,120
Speaker 1: has been a wacky I was thinking to myself, this

159
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:36,760
Speaker 1: might be the most anticipated NFL season we've had because

160
00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,439
Speaker 1: there's so many stories. So you want to see how

161
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,080
Speaker 1: it turns out. You know, every AFC West game is fascinating. Yeah,

162
00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 1: the whole Shaun Watson saga. Yeah, how that turns out,

163
00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,079
Speaker 1: how Russell will Will Aaron Rodgers be able to keep going.

164
00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,400
Speaker 1: There's so many stories this year. I like stories. Yeah,

165
00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,640
Speaker 1: it's I I can't wait. And it's only going to

166
00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,040
Speaker 1: get better and more intense during the draft when all

167
00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 1: these guys, all these talented players start landing places and

168
00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, just to use an example of

169
00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, Jamison Williams or one of these you know,

170
00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,400
Speaker 1: top ranked receivers and all of a sudden they're on

171
00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,280
Speaker 1: a team that you know, it was really good that

172
00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,120
Speaker 1: you're like, well, this guy, we didn't really think about

173
00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,120
Speaker 1: them before free agency, but now after the draft, they've

174
00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,480
Speaker 1: got this guy too, and yeah, maybe maybe that's when

175
00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,480
Speaker 1: the move gets made between Tampa and Miami. Yeah, draft,

176
00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,719
Speaker 1: when they see what at the draft, what happens? Yeah,

177
00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was a lot of interesting stuff

178
00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,440
Speaker 1: though in that statement by Arians. The funny one that

179
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,319
Speaker 1: I liked was you know, Tom might get hurt and

180
00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,080
Speaker 1: we go ten and seven, Like you're gonna go ten

181
00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,200
Speaker 1: and seven on that time, right and also saying that

182
00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,880
Speaker 1: like you know, we're we're in we're in a great

183
00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,120
Speaker 1: spot right now, and it's like, well, yeah, but Tom

184
00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,160
Speaker 1: Brady is forty five like you are. But until he says,

185
00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what were you looking at those forty days

186
00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,360
Speaker 1: he was retired? You want in a great spot right now,

187
00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,880
Speaker 1: he's full of it. I didn't listen to a word

188
00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,360
Speaker 1: he said. You know, yeah, if you're asking me my thoughts,

189
00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,720
Speaker 1: my thoughts that Brady pushed him out, Yeah, and he

190
00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,880
Speaker 1: the power struggle much like he wanted to lost the retirement. Yeah, yeah,

191
00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, so I think he's gonna end up playing

192
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,920
Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay, but I do. I'm intrigued like everybody

193
00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,760
Speaker 1: else about the persistence of the Miami room, you know.

194
00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,560
Speaker 1: And you reminded me of something that I was thinking

195
00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,280
Speaker 1: of when I was listening to one of your shows

196
00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,400
Speaker 1: about Brady's last year here and how you know, he

197
00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,000
Speaker 1: probably was in a power struggle and Kraft made a choice.

198
00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I was Brady is one for two,

199
00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, and you know people were criticized, Well, you know,

200
00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,480
Speaker 1: Kraft decided, you know, to let him go and he

201
00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,800
Speaker 1: got nothing for him. And that's true. But you know,

202
00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,360
Speaker 1: Robert said years before that when it comes time, Tom

203
00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,280
Speaker 1: Brady's gonna be able to leave. I'm not going to

204
00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000
Speaker 1: trade him. He's he's earned the right to decide his future,

205
00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,920
Speaker 1: and he lived up to his word. He could have

206
00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,760
Speaker 1: franchised him, he could have not given him that clause

207
00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 1: in the you know, but why couldn't he have traded

208
00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,839
Speaker 1: him and given him his wish because he you mean,

209
00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,560
Speaker 1: to a team that he wanted to go to. Yeah, well,

210
00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,000
Speaker 1: I know, like Deshaun Watson just got that, I know.

211
00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,959
Speaker 1: But the promise he made to Brady was he's gonna

212
00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,520
Speaker 1: get I'm just gonna let him go. I'm not gonna

213
00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,120
Speaker 1: trade him. He said those words, and he lived up

214
00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,000
Speaker 1: to him, you know, and like it hurt. It's not

215
00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,960
Speaker 1: good business, as Bruce Arian said, but that's what he

216
00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040
Speaker 1: said he would do, and he did it. And you know,

217
00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,160
Speaker 1: you could you could only hope that you know, that's

218
00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,600
Speaker 1: the way you're treated some day. You know, Well, I

219
00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,440
Speaker 1: just think you could have treated me exact same way

220
00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120
Speaker 1: and gotten something. Yeah, Like, I don't think there's any

221
00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,800
Speaker 1: difference in the treatment. Involve him in the process where

222
00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,920
Speaker 1: you want to tell me exactly where you want to go,

223
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,320
Speaker 1: and now I'll work, I'll get something. I guess he

224
00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,120
Speaker 1: could have done that, but you know, yeah, I mean,

225
00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,640
Speaker 1: like I said, that's what Watson. Watson had a no

226
00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,880
Speaker 1: trade clause, so he had okay wherever he went. Yeah, yeah,

227
00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,720
Speaker 1: like you can take care of the guy and still

228
00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,600
Speaker 1: get something. I suppose. Ye. That Watson thing just making

229
00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,600
Speaker 1: me sick the more that comes out with that stuff, like,

230
00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:03,599
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I know, I'm sorry, I'm going. There was

231
00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,800
Speaker 1: some of his depth deposition that was released and you know,

232
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,080
Speaker 1: him pleading the fifth on why he's tweeting, you know

233
00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,680
Speaker 1: that he's in New York on Instagram when he was

234
00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,200
Speaker 1: in fact in Houston with you know, an unlicensed massage,

235
00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,120
Speaker 1: like all these different people talking about I didn't hear that.

236
00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,520
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's you know, I under the ice of

237
00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,559
Speaker 1: my attorney, I pleaded to fit. Uh. But a lot

238
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,600
Speaker 1: of like was this a massage license? I don't know,

239
00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,640
Speaker 1: Like it's just like he just gets massages from random people.

240
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a fetish, and I really do, I do.

241
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,680
Speaker 1: I know. I think it's something weird like that. And

242
00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,400
Speaker 1: and I'm also pretty convinced that this is you know,

243
00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,800
Speaker 1: not that you can put Cleveland in the toilet anymore

244
00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,480
Speaker 1: than they probably are. But I mean, this doesn't work out.

245
00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,319
Speaker 1: They're screwed. I mean, they are screwed for a long time.

246
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,560
Speaker 1: All the money that they're gonna be paying that guy.

247
00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if it comes out, if they you know,

248
00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,960
Speaker 1: if they do get something to stick on him and

249
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,440
Speaker 1: he gots to go to jail or something, I mean, yeah,

250
00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, and they have no picks they got. I mean,

251
00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,559
Speaker 1: they put all their ducks in there just to watch. Like,

252
00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, I can't help but feel for some of

253
00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,559
Speaker 1: the content people at the Cleveland Browns because they got

254
00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,840
Speaker 1: to sit down and be like, so, tell us, what

255
00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,320
Speaker 1: is Deshaun Watson gonna bring to plan, you know, and

256
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,000
Speaker 1: it's like cringe worthy, And I just I haven't felt

257
00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,960
Speaker 1: this way since Antonio Brown and that whole situation, and

258
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,480
Speaker 1: it just stinks. I agree. The one thing I would

259
00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,720
Speaker 1: say for for Cleveland, though, is I don't know this

260
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,400
Speaker 1: for certain, but if it goes that bad, like Mike

261
00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360
Speaker 1: is saying, and he ends up still him, you know,

262
00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,760
Speaker 1: they don't they won't have to pay him. Then. Yeah,

263
00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,800
Speaker 1: if he goes to jail, it's probably clause it's probably

264
00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,520
Speaker 1: if he goes to jail or he's like suspended indefinitely, right,

265
00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,360
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have to pay him. Yeah, but they

266
00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,440
Speaker 1: did give up a lot of capital, right right, Yeah,

267
00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,720
Speaker 1: picks they get, they give up a lot of first

268
00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,840
Speaker 1: round picks. Nick, can we have Yeah, it's this sorry,

269
00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,760
Speaker 1: sorry to me. It's the bigger thing for Cleveland is

270
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,760
Speaker 1: what it might do to the brand, right, you know

271
00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,920
Speaker 1: like Washington, right, I mean, has it split their fan base?

272
00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if it goes bet like see

273
00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,880
Speaker 1: if it go if it works, then all was forgiven.

274
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,840
Speaker 1: But if it goes bad, like Mike is explaining, now,

275
00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,960
Speaker 1: those people have a louder voice, and I have to

276
00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,480
Speaker 1: change the name from Flying Jade to the Flying fs.

277
00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah not good, No, Yeah, that that deserved rim shot.

278
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,320
Speaker 1: You threw it out there. People need to know that's

279
00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,439
Speaker 1: the name of the company. Haslem, the Flying Jay I

280
00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,760
Speaker 1: got it. It's risky, risky. I mean, it's just I know,

281
00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,480
Speaker 1: I know, high level business creators need to be allowed

282
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320
Speaker 1: to create. Freddy, Oh he was talking about the move

283
00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,520
Speaker 1: from Watson. I'm just talking about you. And sometimes you

284
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,720
Speaker 1: got to push them, that's right. I was trying to

285
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:40,320
Speaker 1: let it die. Yea. So those are stories, obviously, and

286
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,440
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of emails because if you have

287
00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,880
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about, just bring up the overtime rules.

288
00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,840
Speaker 1: They did change him for the playoffs. That's official. So

289
00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 1: it's just dumb because after two possessions, if you both score,

290
00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,960
Speaker 1: you're back to I. So I totally agree with you.

291
00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,560
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that I can't argue with you

292
00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,360
Speaker 1: about it, but I just feel like they were like two, three,

293
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,360
Speaker 1: four different things that were on the table, and they

294
00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,200
Speaker 1: took the worst option, right, They took the worst option

295
00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,440
Speaker 1: and they ran with it. Don't you think that this

296
00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,320
Speaker 1: is gonna come up again? Though? Like this? You know

297
00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,240
Speaker 1: how the NFL does things, They very rarely like drastically

298
00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,040
Speaker 1: changed things. They take incremental steps towards they evolved, right,

299
00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,560
Speaker 1: kind of like the eighteen games, they went to seventeen first.

300
00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,520
Speaker 1: Now you know it's gonna be eighteen at some point,

301
00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,400
Speaker 1: but they're going with seventeen for now. I have a

302
00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,320
Speaker 1: feeling this is going to be the same thing. There's

303
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,360
Speaker 1: gonna be another game down the road, whether it's this year,

304
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,600
Speaker 1: next year, where two teams get the ball in overtime

305
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,240
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and then the next the team to

306
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,920
Speaker 1: had it first is gonna get kick a field goal.

307
00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be over, and then they're gonna submit it again.

308
00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,960
Speaker 1: And then they're gonna change it, and eventually it's probably

309
00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna be what we've talked about. Just play another quarter, Yeah, exactly,

310
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,720
Speaker 1: play another ten minutes. If you got a winner at

311
00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,680
Speaker 1: the end, great, If you don't, you play another quarter.

312
00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,840
Speaker 1: But I even like some of you know that's my

313
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm with Bill, and I make it fifteen.

314
00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,200
Speaker 1: I make it the same. But I'm with Bill on that.

315
00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,440
Speaker 1: Just play a time quarter and make it real football.

316
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,400
Speaker 1: But like even some of the other things you know that,

317
00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,200
Speaker 1: I think you're too gimmicky, gimmicky, but they're better than you.

318
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,800
Speaker 1: I hate that. I don't like them either, but it's

319
00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,280
Speaker 1: better than this. Yeah, this is the same problem, only prolonged, right, right,

320
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,600
Speaker 1: right right. I think you have the same problem that

321
00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,680
Speaker 1: you've had. The inequity of having the first possession. Yeah,

322
00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,120
Speaker 1: gives you an advantage. Like they haven't. They haven't taken

323
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,160
Speaker 1: away the importance of winning the coin toss. Right. It's

324
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,000
Speaker 1: it's like said, somebody's gonna score score. We didn't get it,

325
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200
Speaker 1: we didn't get a second. There is still with an

326
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,880
Speaker 1: advantage to winning the coin toss. There's still an advantage

327
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,520
Speaker 1: to that. I don't think it's a fluke that it's

328
00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,720
Speaker 1: it's ten and two. Like people say, it's not a big,

329
00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,200
Speaker 1: big sample size. Yeah, but it's also not you know,

330
00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,960
Speaker 1: six and six, it's ten and two. You win the

331
00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,080
Speaker 1: coin toss, you win the game ten out of twelve times.

332
00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,760
Speaker 1: It's just gotten so convoluted, and that's why it feels

333
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,920
Speaker 1: so much easier to argue, just play an extra like

334
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,000
Speaker 1: that's football. You're gonna have the same kind of game

335
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,880
Speaker 1: planning approach to the whole thing. I mean, that's kind

336
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,879
Speaker 1: of like what your sport decided to do eventually they did, yeah, right,

337
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,399
Speaker 1: because they had the golden goal. Soccer just play another half,

338
00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, And ironically, that's a sport that should have

339
00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,359
Speaker 1: a golden goal because scoring is so much more difficult, right,

340
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,520
Speaker 1: and both teams get a chance. You know, I just

341
00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,360
Speaker 1: hate it. I even hate it with hockey, where it's

342
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,840
Speaker 1: three on three and over time and it's just but

343
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,359
Speaker 1: that's just but that's just regular season. Like in the playoffs,

344
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,080
Speaker 1: it's it's just hockey until someone scores. And again soccer hockey,

345
00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,600
Speaker 1: like the line between offense and defense changes. No one

346
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,040
Speaker 1: starts the game, no one starts with the chance to score, right,

347
00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,680
Speaker 1: So it's not the same as football. The only problems

348
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 1: with soccers thing is that after they play the two

349
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,520
Speaker 1: halves of over and they do the shootout, which and

350
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,680
Speaker 1: the team that got their butts kicked it can win

351
00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 1: the game because they just made one extra goal in

352
00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,440
Speaker 1: the shootout? Did they really get their butts kicks? But

353
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, like one team controls the game, has possession.

354
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: But didn't that happen? That happened? Oh boys, that's how

355
00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,080
Speaker 1: we got eliminated, right yeah, well yeah, yeah, no, Italy

356
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 1: lost to North Macedonia while something like something to four

357
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:24,520
Speaker 1: North Macedonia is pretty scrappy though, yeah, yeah, right, I

358
00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 1: have that right. I mean it was like a complete

359
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,439
Speaker 1: and total donal nomination that they lost in kicks, right yeah,

360
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,160
Speaker 1: I think I just always think they get a goal.

361
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe yeah, And it's just not there's

362
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 1: no increates incongruity, thank you in incongruity, I can't talk,

363
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,479
Speaker 1: but that's what you know. I just I don't like

364
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,520
Speaker 1: it being different in overtime, where it's suddenly a different,

365
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,280
Speaker 1: different game, there's different rules, there's different all of a sudden,

366
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 1: and so it's like it just doesn't feel quite right.

367
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 1: And you know, even when hockey, I was talking to

368
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,119
Speaker 1: somebody about it with like, you know, it's like me,

369
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 1: I played defense. It's like, oh, we're going to shoot out.

370
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 1: Looks like I'm out of deciding this game. You know,

371
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,440
Speaker 1: like like half your team is no longer really involved.

372
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 1: High scoring defense, low scoring but offensive offensive but low scoring,

373
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 1: offensive minded but low scoring oftentimes defense combination offensive minded.

374
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, offensive minded, but no scoring.

375
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 1: I will say this until until I coached hockey. Then

376
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 1: I realized the true value of a kid who plays

377
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: defense and loves it and goes out there and is

378
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 1: reliable just playing defense. He doesn't care if he scores.

379
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 1: He just goes out there and plays his ass off

380
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 1: in the defensive zone. And you know, you're getting that

381
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 1: every time. And until I had a coach, I was

382
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 1: coaching and realize, you know that that can I just

383
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: get one of those guys, you know, Then then you

384
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: realize everybody thinks they're gonna be Bobby or and skate

385
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: up the ice and yeah, anyway, no, it's it's something

386
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 1: you can rely on. Yeah, I mean, and I'm you know,

387
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's uh, you know, some crossover to football.

388
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,959
Speaker 1: By the way, way. Well. The other the problem with

389
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 1: with the NFL is I think most of the time

390
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 1: when you get to that overtime, it's the defense that's

391
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 1: worn out, Sir sides. Yeah, it's it's they're just they're

392
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: just tuckered out, you know, like like like the Falcons

393
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty one where they won the toss.

394
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,959
Speaker 1: You're like, there it comes. It's old, right, and we

395
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 1: were good because we hadn't played defense all games, That's true. Uh,

396
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 1: they that would have been interesting because that might have

397
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,439
Speaker 1: been one of the ones because I don't know if

398
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta would have scored, like you know, usually you say

399
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: it right, if you know, if Buffalo had won the toss,

400
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City had won the tosk, is there any doubt

401
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: if we're going to overtime, Rams had won the m

402
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: we've gotten three, yeah, and back then it was that's

403
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: all you would have needed, right, yeah, you know. So

404
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: we're so lucky that Brady didn't take a knee. You know, man,

405
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even think of that. It's you're right,

406
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: because they were it was like visually that last one, right,

407
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: we was just like three four playing right and walk

408
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: they figured it out. Yeah, and we had played hard defense.

409
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean we were, you know, always pressured. You just

410
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: want to feel like the best team won, and all

411
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get to a new period, the

412
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 1: rules change, and you know, it's just it's a fluid thing.

413
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: But it's not the same and you play different, you

414
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: plan different play. Yeah, just not this. I just would

415
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: like it if it was just normal football for another quarter,

416
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like we're gonna end up back there.

417
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna just because I think it too logic, I

418
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: think it will it just that that's the way the

419
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: NFL does things. They do things incrementally and until finally

420
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, okay, we'll do this, yeah, this way,

421
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: and then you kick a two point and then you

422
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: can get a second chant like why are you going

423
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: down this whole weird rabbit hole? Make it a different game,

424
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: all right? Eight five five Pats five hundred is the

425
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: ace ticket hotline web radio at Patriots dot com. Is

426
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: the email address any Patriots news to speak up since Tuesday,

427
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: not really really just the signing. You had the Peppers thing,

428
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 1: yeah peppers during the show. During the show, he uh

429
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: he signed it looked like and uh no, I think

430
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of positionless defense. I thought, well,

431
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: that was, yeah, this was this was something like a

432
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a b in my basketball now, well

433
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: it was, you know, Jonathan Jones tweeted out, you know,

434
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: position less defense is the future, and and you know,

435
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people kind of latch onto it,

436
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's like hope that well, we

437
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: we're like like we're one step ahead again, and like,

438
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really. I just think it's kind

439
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: of like a nebulous term that people are kind of

440
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: relying on when it's like I feel like defense is

441
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: generally positionless anyway. There's leverage there, you know, it's not

442
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and certainly you need guys like you're always

443
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna need outside corners, Like you can't tell me that

444
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna just put eleven strong safeties out there and

445
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be able to do everything right. Like it's uh,

446
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just it was a little bit

447
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: of insight. I don't know if Jonathan Jones was saying

448
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: this specifically. I mean, I think some people may be

449
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: interpreted as well, they're in spring meetings and this is

450
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: what they're talking about and they're saying, you know, well,

451
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, I know we didn't force a punt last game,

452
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: but you know we're gonna shift to this. So I

453
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: just think it's it's it's one of those things where

454
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: I think you're putting too much hope in overthinking what

455
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna do instead of just can we just get

456
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: guys that can do you know, the win at the

457
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and can run in the secondary, and

458
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, and cover and and stop. With all these

459
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: like intriguing terms of position defense, no one's gonna be

460
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: able to figure out what we're doing. You know. It's

461
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: true that like Nickel is no longer a sub package.

462
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like a basic defense from what

463
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: most teams. You know, So there has been changes, but

464
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: you still like you can go ahead and put you know,

465
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: eleven safeties out there and I'm gonna run the ball

466
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna run it all over you. You know,

467
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: so had enough trouble stopping the run the last couple

468
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: of seasons with traditional lines. Yeah, so it's maybe the

469
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: position doesn't matter, the title of the position doesn't matter,

470
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: but the skills matter. Yeah, you gotta have guys that

471
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: can win. Like you said up front, you gotta have

472
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: guys that can cover on the outside with speed or

473
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna get burned. You know, Like, it's not like

474
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: the other team doesn't take into account who you have

475
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: on the field and what their skills are they do

476
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: and they're gonna it's all. It's all about matchups, you know.

477
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: It's just that it gave me no no comfort to

478
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: hear that. And and it's okay coming from Jonathan Jones,

479
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: because I think he is one of the guys that

480
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, you can kind of move around, and you

481
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: know that he doesn't really have a position, right He

482
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: started as a slot corner and and and you know

483
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: you saw him play more safety. And I mean, but

484
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: they move him around. You're not going to put him

485
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: at nose tackle. It's fine with a handful of guys

486
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field in the secondary. It's

487
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: not applicable to the align of scrimmage to the outside

488
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 1: corners and and to to the Free State, although they

489
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: did experiment for at least a few games with Kyle

490
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: Arrington as an edge rusher. I do against the Colts,

491
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: I remember that, jeez, that was like ye and I

492
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: don't have any problem with the work. Not really, I didn't,

493
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: But I don't have any problem with with with different

494
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: things and trying to be innovative and whatnot, and and

495
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, taking chances and what. But one thing that

496
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: you said that I really like isn't defense in general, Like,

497
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: once the play happens, Okay, so you're lined up in

498
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: a position, But once the play happens, isn't everybody on

499
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: defense's goal to get the guy with the ball onto

500
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: the ground, right? Like, So if the wide receiver catches

501
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: a pass twenty yards across the middle, and let's just

502
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: say he ends up the reversing field, should the like

503
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: the nose tackles say, well, they didn't run the ball,

504
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: so I don't have to worry about trying to get him.

505
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: Just sit and watch. You know. Let's just say, for

506
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: our arguments, say the guy cuts across the field, he

507
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: reverses field, and yeah, you know, there's delays and the

508
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: defensive lineman are chasing him down just because he's a

509
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver who caught the ball and it's the cornerback's

510
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: job to cover him, right, doesn't mean that the defensive

511
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: lineman can't try to get involved in the play. And

512
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: then every play is defense, you know, like positions. Once

513
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: the balls in the guy's hands, everything breaks down right

514
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: right then, and then you have you don't have line,

515
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: you have a run forced player. You have you know,

516
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: guys on the backside that are pursuing like I mean

517
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: that and that you know that, And to Paul's point,

518
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: it doesn't positions don't matter at that point. Yeah. I mean,

519
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just an edge rusher and they ran

520
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: the ball the other way. So I'm off this play

521
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: like I'm trying, you know, I'm just gonna take it off.

522
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: But you have a job on every play. Every player

523
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: has a job on every play. That job becomes, like

524
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: Paul said, get the guy with the ball. But prior

525
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: to that, to keep him respond responsibilities. Yeah, and you know,

526
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: and to again, yeah, you can take Adrian Phillips and

527
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: employ him as a linebacker. A lot of teams do

528
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But now are we suggesting now that

529
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: they're going to do this with like three gat like

530
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: instead of linebackers, we're gonna have three safeties. I think

531
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, that's what worried about that. I

532
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: think it sounds that because I don't think you can

533
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: do that unless you get away with unless one of

534
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: them is really good in coverage, and then really is

535
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: he a cornerback? You know? But I'm just saying, if

536
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: you have like Jabrol Peppers is like what to fifteen

537
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: to ten? Like he's small, he's small for the small

538
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: linebackers that Bill supposedly thinks are too small, right, Like

539
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: he's like ten fifteen pounds, smaller than like Nakobe Dean

540
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: in the draft. Yeah, and now you're gonna use So

541
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna use like, Okay Phillips. He has shown that

542
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: he can do that. He could be a box safety.

543
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: That's what Peppers has done in his career. So now

544
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna play both of them at the same time.

545
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: And then where does dugger fit in? Yeah? Right, So

546
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna play with four safeties on the field at

547
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: the same time. You're gonna have corners. You're gonna have

548
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: you know, Malcolm Butler and Jonathan Jones probably in Jalen Mills.

549
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: It's now you're gonna have seven defensive backs on the

550
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: field all the time. Yeah, and you're gonna stop the run.

551
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: I was wondering, you know, is there a rule you

552
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: have to have you have your five you know, uh,

553
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: you have to have five lines on the line for

554
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: offense right for defense? You know, does it matter where

555
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: guys line up? Like you could literally not even have

556
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: anyone on the line if you want it right. There's

557
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason to what that is, right, you

558
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: just you got everybody's got to have a gap. That's

559
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, well to stop the run, everyone has to

560
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: have a gap. But there's no rules saying you have

561
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: to line out like where you have players at the

562
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: end of the game. We've seen guys with you know, standing,

563
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: no defensive line all everybody's back, right, But this responsibility,

564
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, people have it like even even if I'm

565
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: three yards off the line of scrimmage, I probably have

566
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: a responsibility if the ball, if the point of attack

567
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: goes this way, I'm responsible for this area of the field.

568
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, and you got to be able to

569
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: get there. And you know, do you do like the muddle?

570
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: You know when we've seen the four guys you know,

571
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: all walking around and all of a sudden, the snap

572
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: and everybody goes m So you know, the question is

573
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: like can you get away with smaller guys who are

574
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: really fast, you know, and because they've got that two

575
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: or three yard cushion, they can get around that bigger

576
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: guy trying to block them and make the play, you know,

577
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: and minimize the run after one or two yards. You know.

578
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you need like special players out

579
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: there to do that. I mean, I would say if

580
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you're like exceptionally fast, that's why the devon Whites of

581
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: the world get because they aren't exceptionally fast. I don't

582
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: think that. I don't think the Patriots have those kinds

583
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: of traits, right, I don't think they're exceptionally fast. Yeah.

584
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Now it really worries me against the run, and we've

585
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: talked about the struggles. But I think another piece of

586
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: it too, and the other kind of popular buzz thing

587
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: right now is that the Patriots are going to go

588
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: to more zone defense next year. Oh okay, go ahead,

589
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: finish your thought I have. My thought is just that

590
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, you need guys that can

591
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: get after the passer, because guy, they're too good, they're

592
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: too smart. They're gonna find the holes if you don't

593
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: get there quick enough. So, you know, so, on one hand,

594
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about we're gonna play this positionless defense. Do

595
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: you have anybody that you feel great about of that

596
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: crew getting after the quarterback other than maybe bar More

597
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: and early season Jude On. So I just I just

598
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: look at what happened. And it was on last night

599
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: the Bill's Patriots playoff game, and I was as flipped it.

600
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: I flipped it on and I was like, oh my god,

601
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: it is even worse than I remember it. We just

602
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just what jumped out to me too.

603
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Not to get into this, sorry everybody that's listening to

604
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: relive that horrible game, but just the energy that Buffalo

605
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: was playing, well, it was clear we were done. It

606
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: was clear, and the Patriots were kind of looking around

607
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: at each other like what the hell is happening right now?

608
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: You know. So it's it's troubling, and you know, on

609
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: one hand, I love thinking about Josh Allen and the

610
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Bills and what a challenge that is and how would

611
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: you go about defending that? And so I'm starting to

612
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: see these things and I'm like, Okay, so what if

613
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Bill has said that, what if you know, we talk

614
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: about philosophy and how you know, maybe he uh, you know,

615
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: what's he thinking? The trends are what if he's saying,

616
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: you know what, this league is now so slanted toward offense.

617
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Defense is about stopping them in the red zone. You're

618
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: not going to consistently stop teams in the middle of

619
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: the field, but once you get into the red zone,

620
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: if you have the right players, you can minimize points.

621
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: You know, particularly against the good teams like Buffalo, like

622
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: reason like build your defense to stop teams when the

623
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: field is short, and don't worry, just avoid big plays

624
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: and stop him on short fields. That's them. I think

625
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: that's always been there, but they haven't been good at that.

626
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean lately lately they you know, they have history

627
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: that lately they haven't been good at that. So wouldn't

628
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: you think you would need bigger bodies, right, I don't know.

629
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe because of these quarterbacks who are

630
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: smarter and can move around. Maybe he believes when the

631
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: field short, you got it's all about limiting that quarterback's options.

632
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: I still think you don't need both types of players, though,

633
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: because I'm all for getting faster, more athletic. Yeah, I'm

634
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: still waiting. But what but they they I mean, they

635
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: just signed one guy who has a more athletic profile

636
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: in peppers. That doesn't make your defense fast. Yeah, I

637
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: don't know one guy, but what if he's saying the

638
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: name of the game of defense in the NFL these

639
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: days is stopping teams in the red zone. Once they

640
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: get there, you stop. Okay, But I think it's always

641
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: been that. Yeah, I do too. I think that's and

642
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's driven Patriot fans nuts for

643
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: two decades. You know. I think that was such a

644
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of got attached to Patricia

645
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he was maybe the one

646
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: that when that was happening, it seemed like that that

647
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: that that's what he likes to do. It seems like

648
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: he likes to play the odds. And you'll force you

649
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: to continuously execute down the field, and when the field

650
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: gets tighter, it gets harder, and you know, by that point,

651
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: you run eight, nine, ten plays and maybe what do

652
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: you have left in the bag. Maybe your guys are

653
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: a little tired. You know, that's what they kind of

654
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: prey on. But I don't know. I mean, it's like risky.

655
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: On one hand, I understand, like, okay, you've got some

656
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: more athletes on the field. Maybe you got a few

657
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: more strong safeties. But at the same time, I still

658
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: believe that well, maybe the whole thing run. You know,

659
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: we were smaller and faster in the middle of the field.

660
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: Once we get into that red zone, we bring in

661
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: the bigger guys to limit the run, and you know,

662
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: it's just a different defense once we get into the

663
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: red zone. I don't know, I don't know, but you

664
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: know it's I mean, I think too that the draft

665
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: based on you know, they haven't really done much in

666
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: free agency, so you know, the draft critical importance, and

667
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it'll signal something. Are they focused

668
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: on cornerbacks, wide receivers, they focused on linebackers, defensive ends,

669
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, tackles. Are they focused on the line of scrimmage?

670
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: Are they focused off and now everyone's on the Michigan safety.

671
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as let's get another one. Let's get let's

672
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: let's say this is he is fast, No, and I know,

673
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's a really good player. Alright, then

674
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: with them are good, But can we get a guy

675
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: that's two hundred and thirty two hundred forty pounds that

676
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: runs because I know twere thirty five pounds, Like I

677
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: don't think they have to be two ten like, because

678
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I just they've had a hard time stopping the run

679
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: in general the last several years, and I think this

680
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: is a recipe for that to continue. Now, you could

681
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: argue and say, my old thing. You know, well, if

682
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: the other team's running the ball a lot, it keeps

683
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: the score down because it takes longer to score that way, right,

684
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I just know they're coming off

685
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: of a historically bad defensive performance, a handful of defensive performances,

686
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: and if this is the you know, what is the shift.

687
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: I think that that's for me, is what is most interesting.

688
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: And I think when I see some of these things,

689
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: it's just like we're just gonna kind of say this

690
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: nebulous thing. If it's a positionless defense, like, it doesn't

691
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: make me feel better. Doesn't make positionless defense positionless coaches,

692
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: it's no one's going to have a position or position.

693
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: It's buzzwords and no titles, no positions, no nothing. They

694
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: are And I hate to fall back on this, but

695
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: there are things that happened that people confused about. They

696
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: spend a little time thinking about it, and they talk

697
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: themselves into it. It's the same thing with the coaches.

698
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, like, we're not gonna have coordinators, no coordinators.

699
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: You know, it's a show about nothing, nothing, nothing, We're

700
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: not gonna have brilliant I get it, it's brilliant. Wait

701
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: wait what wait what what? What? What is the brilliant part? No,

702
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm with Robert. I have my questions too, but I

703
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: give the guy latitude based on twenty five years of

704
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 1: dominance and I'm and I'm there too, but like, don't

705
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: ask me not to question it. Well, and on your

706
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: show yesterday they were talking about just that the you

707
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: know who's the offensive coordinator and your guy, Felger said,

708
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: we'll know when we see the guy with the card

709
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: calling plays. What if it's Bill calling plays and he

710
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't need a card because it's all up here

711
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: up in his head. I mean I could literally see

712
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: that we're pulling. He knows he doesn't even need a card.

713
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: He's got those those Google glasses us. Right, Well, I

714
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: bet it's Joe Judge. I bet, I mean, I don't

715
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: know if he's the coordinator. I bet he called I'll

716
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: bet you it's Nick Kayley. But anyway, what if it's

717
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Bill and he doesn't need a card, you know, and

718
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: then we're like, who's calling the plays? We don't know?

719
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: What if it's like what if it's like we heard

720
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: about the defense, where one guy is formulating the game

721
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: plan the other guy is calling it, right, so you've

722
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: got you know, maybe Judge is formulating the offer. Who's

723
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: the architect and who's the execute What if he's sitting

724
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: up in the up in the booth and you can't

725
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: even see who it is. You don't even know. They're

726
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: just max talking to somebody looking around in space, like right.

727
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean there are some teams who do call it

728
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: from the booth. Yeah, so well, you know, I don't

729
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: know if you're not, I mean you'll you'll probably know

730
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: who's calling the actual plays. But I think Bill has

731
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: kind of always been involved in formulating the game plan.

732
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Back to the football lights that we've seen, you know,

733
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: when Brady goes in and talks to him, he goes,

734
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go let billyon know, right, Billy

735
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: O'Brien at the time was the offensive coordinatory He wasn't

736
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: even there. Yeah, yeah, because they're deciding what they're gonna

737
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: do that week, and Bruce arians wasn't around to put Yeah,

738
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: I think it just feeds in Fred, like for you said,

739
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: it's just such a gonna be such an interesting season

740
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: and you know, the Patriots of their own thing, but

741
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: it's such an interesting season. And I mean, I know

742
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: I get crapped for being a belicheck honk, but I

743
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: love this. I love his back against the wall. Show me,

744
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: show me it that. I'm not saying that he's gonna

745
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: be able to do it. I just want to see

746
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: this challenge. And you know, and like Robert said, he's

747
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: doing it his own way. Fine, but there's no guarantee

748
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: that he's going to figure it out. But he's sure

749
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: doing it his own way, and he's got to have

750
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: a plan. I can't imagine he ended that season thinking like,

751
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll get a couple of guys. I mean,

752
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it was the lighting at the Breakers,

753
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: but he shoul didn't look like a guy that was

754
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: stressed out and worried, looked like I mean, I think

755
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: he might have tinted his hair. And I don't think

756
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: he spends much time being stressed out and worried. You know,

757
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: we always think he has all the answers. You know

758
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: why he looked like a real fit, seventy year old man, Like,

759
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, I love that, But well, I like, I

760
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm being dead serious. I'm not even being snarky. Like

761
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: he thinks he has all the answers. Why would he

762
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: spend time stressing, That's what I'm saying. He's you know,

763
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: this isn't any different than I think he went into

764
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: the playoff game thinking he had all the answers to

765
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: stop Josh Allen. I don't know about that. Oh I

766
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: think he did. Then after all, it's just you know, execution, Yeah,

767
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: had the game plan, just not executing. They gotta stop

768
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: putting that game on TV because you're gonna stop watching.

769
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm like a moth to the flame. I'm like, let's

770
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: just put how bad really was it? Oh? It was?

771
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: It was real bad and it was really forgotten. Yeah,

772
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: it was bad, all right? Eight five times five five

773
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: past five hundred is the a sticket hutline web radio

774
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: stop the Patriots dot com is the email address? Uh,

775
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: let's get to the listeners see what they have to say.

776
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: We'll start with Patty and Agawam. What's up, Patty, what's

777
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: going on today? Guys. Hey, Patty, So yeah, just wanted

778
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: to say I'm not a big fan of the uh

779
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: the term position was football either. You know, I would

780
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: like guys to have their their sort of step positions.

781
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want my left corner playing playing um,

782
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, free safety. But that gets into me. It's

783
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: more about line guy that I don't mind if the

784
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: corners like the defensive backs of defensive backs. It's when

785
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: the defensive backs of linebackers that worries, like the defensive tackles,

786
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: like Twitter, what are you doing? They'll never never expect it.

787
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna reverse it. All the D D backs are

788
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: going to play upfront and the D line and play

789
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: him back. Hey, checkers, you get Christian Barmore matched up

790
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: on Stefan Diggs. Yeah, good luck. Right, it's a size mismatch.

791
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys, Um, do you guys

792
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: think that Um They'll try to at least at least

793
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: a little bit try and work um Pyle dugger into

794
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: uh free safety this year, just to see, like how

795
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: he does. I mean, obviously Devin's going to get the

796
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: majority of the snaps, but yeah, just going forward, I mean,

797
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: if they really don't have a kind of a replacement

798
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: or Devin if if this is going to be his

799
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: last year, or do you see more like do you

800
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: think they wait until the draft next year or just

801
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: see if someone like Mills or Dugger can do the job.

802
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: He's a good question. Um, I think Dugger. I wish

803
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I had PFF. One thing I do really like PF

804
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: for is they tell you exactly where everybody played. Um,

805
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I think he did play a little bit more free safety.

806
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: But what I another part of this too, and I'm

807
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: interested in, is you know the the Brandon Stalia all

808
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: the cover two. You know, Cover two is the big

809
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: hot new thing, and the Patriots traditionally we'll cover one

810
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: and with you know mccordy and man coverage, and so

811
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's not just zone, but maybe you're you're playing

812
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: a couple more guys back. I think it's a something

813
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: to watch. I could see it. I could see it,

814
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: especially with if you got another strong safety. Well, and

815
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: that's why there's a lot of talk. That's another reason

816
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: why there's a lot of talk about the kid from Michigan,

817
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: DA's Hill Hill, Um, because he is he profiles a

818
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: lot like mccordy. You know, four down guy, versatility in

819
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: the back and play outside, can play safe. That was

820
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: what mccordy was coming out. Yep, yeah, all right, thanks Patty.

821
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred, North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey,

822
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: So that's how y'all doing today? Okay, doing pretty good?

823
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Doing pretty good? Okay. I got a question one of

824
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: the guy who a couple of the guys who was

825
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: talking about it last night when we heard mister Kraft

826
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: he liked to win more than one he led to

827
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: win a playoff games than three years and the best

828
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: way to build through the draft. Do you think he's

829
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: drafted in an underhand message or you think he would

830
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: just being frank. I think he's both. I think he's

831
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: being frank, and I think it is a message. You know,

832
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: it's a message to Bill, it's a message to the

833
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: fan base that you know, he's not happy unless we're winning. Yeah. Yeah,

834
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: that's that's the way we brought it up too. I

835
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: brought up like that, think like that, and I'm said,

836
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I think he's getting like anybody else. You just give

837
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: him first some of the moves or whatever, you know.

838
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: But it's just like you said, Duce especially in build

839
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: you trust. I got flight trust in a really zero

840
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: in the gym part. But I know you hey, hey, hey,

841
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: uh well, let me let me let me stop you there.

842
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: Let me stop you there, because because I don't like,

843
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm not like telling you like it's gonna work out,

844
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine. I'm just interested to see an

845
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: excellent head coach kind of with his back against the wall.

846
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me, and I think that that in

847
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: terms of sports, is a fascinating kind of you know,

848
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: last period of his career. But I'm not gonna tell you, oh,

849
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna all be fine. We're gonna be great. And like,

850
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm just more interested in seeing how he does this

851
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: because I know he cares, and I do believe that

852
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: he really wants to win football games and get back

853
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: in the hunt. But you know, he's gonna go about

854
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: as his own way. Will it work. I'm not going

855
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: to tell you that it definitely will, but I'm very

856
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: interested to watch how he does it and how he

857
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: tries to do it. Yeah, I understand that too. I'm

858
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: like you in a way, Douce, but I'm like, I

859
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: just can't see them thirty yeards back there. With slow

860
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: corners or anybody getting speed inside out whatever. Even this

861
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: Polter j did that. Every every coach that left Bill

862
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: got somebody in the outside and the inside. And then

863
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: they also got a critic good guys on rugh to

864
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: deep defense or whatever, and then they gave us hey

865
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: when they played it. You know. Yeah, So I'm just

866
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, Okay, if they following bill philosophy, why

867
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: they jump outside the box. I'm like, Bill, gotta go

868
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: outside of the box. Sometimes this is not nineteen ninety

869
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: no more. It's involved a little bit more. Yeah, you know,

870
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: I understand, Like, I still understand where you're coming from.

871
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate him as loving loving the defense, the coach.

872
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: I followed him the war with a coach, But the

873
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: gym moved is what I decoratet is what I'm different there.

874
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think it's a good point.

875
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Brian Flores, whatever his final was

876
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, I mean, you know, clearly he had

877
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: a beat on what they were doing. I mean every

878
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: single time they were you know, able to know what

879
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: to expect and execute under you know, in the final

880
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: moments that that was you know, part of this year's losses,

881
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: not the second one. That one wasn't really close. But

882
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: what is it? I know, And how's Josh gonna do

883
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: against them? You know, what is Josh gonna do? I

884
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: think those are some of the most interesting games when

885
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: you see these former guys who know everything inside and

886
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: out and you know what the problems are going to be,

887
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: and they turn the screws on him, and you know,

888
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: I think that how are they going to counter that?

889
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Because he's got to know what's coming. If Josh does win,

890
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: stay away from the buses. That's all I heard, uh

891
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: your boys on on my station this morning talking about

892
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: that game. Oh yeah, yeah, because it was funny. Who

893
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: are my boys? Okay? On your shows? I like to

894
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: listen to the gambling guys. Yeah, the bankroll boys, right,

895
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, Joe Murray and Sharps Joe Murray. I

896
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't call them the sharks. What do they know? And

897
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: I always say, like, I really like Dan lift Doun.

898
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: He's clearly a guy who bets with his heart. He

899
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: always bets like the Patriots, like no matter what. Yeah,

900
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: And one of the things was the over under Joe

901
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Murray is thinking about putting the putting uh a bet

902
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: on the under for the Patriots eight and a half wins,

903
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: and lift Shots just like explodes. There's no way. And

904
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: one of his reasoning is it, you know, like they

905
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: win a requisite amount of game just because the other

906
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: team's coach is stupid, Like they'll beat Vegas next year

907
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: because Josh mcdanals is stupid. Really, I'm really right, and

908
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, this is the guy who's been

909
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. Now, if Dan lift Shats was out

910
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: there ripping Josh McDaniels for the last ten years, then

911
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll get full full props to Dan lift Shots. I

912
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: haven't heard that he's gone now, and he's stupid, right,

913
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: And that's where it comes down to. He doesn't like

914
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: him anymore because he's not here anymore. And then I

915
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: gotta get richer. How did it go the last time

916
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: they went on the road to play Josh McDaniels against

917
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Bill Belich, And they're also, oh, that was the high

918
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: five game and they were all they all went all fled.

919
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: It was so funny, brown yellow stripe like the brown

920
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: vertical stripes on the socks. Yeah, I see too. Look

921
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: hearing Belichick in the O nine coaching thing being like

922
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: fumble the snap twice twice like that particularly was like,

923
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't remember that at all. It was

924
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Love what was his name was the quarterback, right,

925
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton. Yeah, I don't remember the fumbling the snap thing.

926
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: I could be I could be mistaken. That's for some

927
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: reason that's sticking in my head. But I think I'm right.

928
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: There is Denver set up there the game winning Yeah,

929
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: Like Patriots had a chance I think to tie it

930
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: or take the lead, and they they like fumbled it twice.

931
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: I think they recovered the first one they fumbled, and

932
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: they fumbled again. They lost it and Denver was abled.

933
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: I think when I remember something, they do. I remember

934
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: Dever took over in Patriot's territory in overtime and didn't score.

935
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: They didn't even get a field goal. Um, I remember

936
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Will Fork made an unbelievable play on the screen, made

937
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: the tackle on the sideline. Yeah, it's just an unbelievable

938
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: play for the guy that size to blow up a screen.

939
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: It was just an amaz Were you there for that game? Yeah?

940
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: Is it is it harder to remember games? I find

941
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: it harder to remember games now that I've been here

942
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: than watching on TV, because TV they talk about it,

943
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: they replay it when you're watching it here. It absolutely

944
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: remember more off TV than they do live for that reason.

945
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: But I remember being there because that was the the

946
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: origin of Freddy's absolute exploding he was. Fred was upset

947
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: after that game, because I can remember him in any

948
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: non playoff loss I had that. He was so mad

949
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels was in our area, you know, with

950
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: the busy hugging everybody. You know what it's like to

951
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: lose in the NFL. You know, these guys aren't into

952
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: like hugging you. You know, they just saw you like

953
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: four months ago. It's not like you've been gone for years.

954
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, right open that you know what it's like

955
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: to lose, and so they don't want to see you

956
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: and hug you and all that crap. You know, do

957
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: that before the game in the field afterwards, you know,

958
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: so mad. It was just poor me. Um all right.

959
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: Web Radio at Patriots dot com as the email address,

960
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: George says he's from Uvall, Texas, big Patriots fan and

961
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: a new fan of Patriots Unfiltered. I don't miss a

962
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: single podcast because I like how you guys keep the

963
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: fans in form. I started watching this YouTube video and

964
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: I'd like for you to watch the first five minutes.

965
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't see it. It was interesting to

966
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: hear Bill talk about how he surrounds a new quarterback

967
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: slash replacement with veterans and get the ball to the playmakers.

968
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I immediately thought of the question that comes up is

969
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: why does Bill continue to sign veteran players instead of

970
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: taking a chance with a practice squad player. I like

971
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: what Bill is doing right now getting younger slash faster players.

972
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: Seeing this video made me feel like, this is happening now.

973
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I don't I didn't see. What

974
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: are the young it's from Super Bowl thirty six? What

975
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: are the young fast players that we've gotten? Who are

976
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: the younger faster guys? I don't. Mack Wilson, I don't know.

977
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Pepper's coming off in a CLP. Peppers

978
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: might be in that category, but that's one Mac Wilson

979
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: certainly isn't. Time Montgomery. Is he fast? He's not. He's

980
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: not young nor fast? Ronce Terrence Mitchell nor is he

981
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: on defense? Again? Not young? Like? Who are the young

982
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: fast guys, they've got Terrence Mitchell that I say him Torons,

983
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, said to depend pronounced twice. If if

984
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: the young linebackers that we already have all of a

985
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: sudden start playing, are they faster than what we got

986
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: rid of? Yeah? Maybe? Oh yeah, yeah. I mean I

987
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: think Josh uch is faster than Dante high Tower. I

988
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would argue, and is you know, Ronnie

989
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: Perkins faster than Kyle Van Nois you know he looks

990
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: at on tape. Honestly, I'm I'm flashing back to Chubby

991
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: Douce and his speech shoes in the background in the backyard,

992
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get faster for next year, I'm gonna

993
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: be faster fast. I'm just gonna get faster. Or they

994
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: wearing these speech shoes that are like you know, they

995
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: the platform on the front of your feet. Member of

996
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: those things they don't work. They don't work. Everybody don't

997
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: buy christ and Virginia rights. And I've always been a Bill.

998
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: I've always been Bill, and we trust guy. Sorry, Paul,

999
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: but ever since Brady left, he's been in the spotlight

1000
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: this offseason so far has maybe question his abilities, but honestly,

1001
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm starting to not be that worried. I think they can.

1002
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: I think if they can draft a corner in the

1003
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: first round and a wide receiver in the second, I

1004
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: think this team has a chance to sniff the playoffs.

1005
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: They have to mail both nail both those picks. It's

1006
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: just like golf. All you have to do is hit

1007
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: the ball straight. My only concern is the coaching staff.

1008
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: I understand Judge and Mattie pe might be good coaches,

1009
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: and I think they are, but I don't know if

1010
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: they are good offensive coaches. And with matt being in

1011
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: his second year, I have concerns too too. I mean,

1012
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: I generally think, especially the way the league is now

1013
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: where you don't have to have been a player or

1014
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: played a position in order to coach it and to

1015
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: coach it well, that a guy can go from one

1016
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: side of the ball to the other. I mean it

1017
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: happens with lower level assistance all the time. Where they

1018
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: start one place, they moved to the other, you know,

1019
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: or even go on special teams for a little bit.

1020
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's as much of a concern

1021
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: to me. It's just knowing what the guy is supposed

1022
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: to do that worries me more than the change, Like

1023
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: if you had just said, you know, this is what

1024
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Who's in charge? I think there's a chance.

1025
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: And again I'm not the one saying this, but last

1026
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: year there were definite references to a lack of clarity

1027
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: at the top of the defensive coaching chart. Yeah, so

1028
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm not in the meetings. I'm not the

1029
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: one that's wondering about who's in charge. On defense, the

1030
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: players at times were talking about calls and contradictory information.

1031
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: So I worry that way on offense too, Like it's

1032
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: not just about well guys switching sides of the ball,

1033
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: like I think it's football. To steal Fred's phrase, I

1034
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: think these guys are football coaches. They've coached at the

1035
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: highest level. They probably know how to coach wide receivers

1036
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: in running backs, just like they do defensive linemen and linebackers.

1037
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: You know. I wonder, you know, like because they say

1038
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: in sales, if you're a good salesperson, you can sell anything, right,

1039
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, you'll always have a job you cant So

1040
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: I wonder, if you're a good football coach, can you

1041
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: coach any position? I don't know probably you know, yeah,

1042
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: but I think that there's like coaching technique, you know,

1043
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: those kind of have to understand individual pieces. Sure, well,

1044
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: it's like a salesman. You can be you have to

1045
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: know the products, but if you're a good salesperson, you

1046
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: can sell it. Yeah, you have to know the position. Finish,

1047
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: because I like where you're going. I lost my Thingum,

1048
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: but is this is this someone who is a creative

1049
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: mind who has been thinking about offensive football and how

1050
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: to throw new twists at teams. I mean, how many

1051
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: times over the past twenty years, Patriots or not Patriots,

1052
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: have you seen some kind of play happen that you

1053
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: weren't quite wildcat comes to mind, as you know, an

1054
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: extreme example of you know, taking what you have and

1055
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: coming up with something new to win a game. And

1056
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: so I think from that perspective, if Nick Kayley was

1057
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: calling the plays and you felt like I probably feel

1058
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: a little more excited. And I don't mean that as

1059
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: you know a knock on, you know, Joe Judge or

1060
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Joe Judge map Patricia can coach the

1061
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: intricacies of the position, no problem. What I what I

1062
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: wonder is is how much time have they spent thinking

1063
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: about how can I evolve the offense? How can I

1064
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: improve this for Mac Jones and play to his strengths,

1065
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: And maybe they can, maybe they can execute that. But

1066
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: I just I think that's the biggest piece of this

1067
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: is just Mac is the important part. You want him

1068
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: to develop, You want to build around him to his strengths.

1069
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: But I think you also need a schematic element that

1070
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: teams aren't maybe used to or it's something different. You know.

1071
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: I think when Bill O'Brien took over, you had, you know,

1072
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: subtle shifts in the kind of offense that they had

1073
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: been running, you know with Josh. Does that happen now?

1074
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Are they able to to tweet things everyone's talking about?

1075
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: We got to get more out of Nelson Agilor and

1076
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: John hu Smith. Do those guys have the capability to

1077
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: do that, to know how to to not only do it,

1078
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: but to do it in a way that gives defenses problems?

1079
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: And I know that's another buzz thing of like teams

1080
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: that are like, oh, it's not hard to prepare for them. So,

1081
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, do I have much confidence right now that

1082
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: this is going to evolve into a cutting edge, new

1083
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: look offense that has kind of new problems I have,

1084
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: ye Devil's advocate for a second. You know how sometimes

1085
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: when a player who is either a receiver who has

1086
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: to be pressed into playing defensive back or vice versa,

1087
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: the obvious questions to them as well, how does that

1088
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: help you knowing what the other players supposed to do.

1089
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the same for the coach. You know, Patricia's

1090
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: been a coordinator for so long he's had to analyze

1091
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: other offenses and see how they are. Like he has

1092
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: to upright against sixteen offenses every year for several years,

1093
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: and he's thinking, boy, if I were running that offense,

1094
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: this is how I would attack us. So this is

1095
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: so maybe he's thinking that way in in a roundabout way.

1096
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And I think you're I think you're totally right.

1097
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: And and I actually feel like that they that they

1098
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: know that, that they understand, you know, where how it

1099
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: needs to go against how certain defenses play and what

1100
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: they need to do. I just wonder if they have

1101
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: been had the foresight, you know, and and kind of

1102
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: just you know, I just think about offensive coordinators over there,

1103
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of starting with John Gruden, remember when he was like,

1104
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, an offensive coordinate with the Eagles and you

1105
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: know the West Coast offense, and I mean it always

1106
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: happens and right now McVeigh and you know all that

1107
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: that whole tree under under Kyle Shanahan. It's it's kind

1108
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: of the rage, but just how can they do it

1109
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: in a way that's new and exciting? And that's just

1110
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: what's hard. It is. It's like I'm sure that, like

1111
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: they know how it's supposed to go. Can they design

1112
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: it in a way that is like if we really

1113
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: put them in a pickle in this play, you know,

1114
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: I know how to be and I can call it

1115
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: and I know the moment like you know. And that's

1116
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: another part of it too, is the fluidity of a

1117
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: football game and and knowing the time break this play

1118
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: out or you know, like those things I think are

1119
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: probably right. Josh certainly had an advantage with that. This

1120
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: is like just this they're doing exactly what they did

1121
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: in in thirteen when we played you know such and such,

1122
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: and this is what we did and this is what

1123
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Like they won't have that to fall

1124
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: back down. And there's always a learning curve, I mean,

1125
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: and that's you know, when you put a new guy

1126
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: in that's just and that's why I think, you know,

1127
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: when Nick Kelee, maybe at least it says, hey, maybe

1128
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: this guy has been really thinking about it under Josh,

1129
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: and I would like to see him in the opportunity.

1130
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm with Fred on that he would be my choice,

1131
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: and I think Fred's right. I think that Matt Patricia

1132
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: is more than capable of coaching an offensive. I think

1133
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: he knows the game. I think that Patricia and Judge

1134
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: will be able to teach whatever they're asked to teach.

1135
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't have any real fear of that. Um. What

1136
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know is if either of them has the

1137
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: nuance that it takes to call play sequence, you know,

1138
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: necessarily right the field. It's not necessarily formulating a game plan,

1139
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: because again, I think Bill is a big part of that.

1140
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: So I'm not you know, I think they'll go into

1141
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: most games with an idea of what will work. But

1142
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: then when you have to adjust and you know, all

1143
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get something going and you get

1144
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: a penalty that all of a sudden set you back,

1145
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: and like, how do you overcome that? What do you do? Like,

1146
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I just think when you haven't called plays, it's not

1147
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: an easy thing to do, So would it make more

1148
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: sense than to have Patricia called the plays, seeing how

1149
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: he was a coordinator at least and had to call

1150
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: defensive plays for me, it's Nick Kayley, but you know,

1151
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: because he's the one that's been in that offense for

1152
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: five years. He's been a part of that offense and

1153
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: the you know, the the ideas that they go into

1154
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: games with. He has been around. Like, if it was

1155
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: such an advantage to be a defensive coordinator and then

1156
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: switch and becoming because you happen more often, someone would

1157
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: do it, right, Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, it's And I

1158
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: mean it's like any anybody can walk into the game

1159
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: with that giant play card with all the plays that

1160
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: you got, but it's see quincying and setting things up

1161
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: for later and you know, knowing tendencies the other team,

1162
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: and they've got a great support staff. And I have

1163
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: no doubt that Matt Patrician joejas could sit down with

1164
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and be like, here's what you did wrong here.

1165
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: But it's just the whole aspect of attacking a defense

1166
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: and you know, producing points, especially in like the red zone,

1167
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: and it's not going to fall apart like you know,

1168
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: they'll be I mean, they'll be okay, Like I don't

1169
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: think that you know, it's going to be like wow,

1170
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: it's so obvious that the people calling plays have never

1171
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: called plays an NFL. Get like, it's not gonna be

1172
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: like that. No, not going to be a disaster game.

1173
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: But I wonder if if the sort of supposed to

1174
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: call the play before the class you were calling, you're

1175
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: calling the first down, I'm calling second down. But but

1176
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: I do I do sort of have a little bit

1177
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: of a concern that those those rumblings that we sort

1178
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: of you touched down earlier last year with some defensive

1179
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: players saying I wasn't sure who to listen to who

1180
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: was in charge? If now that is happening on the

1181
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: offensive side too. You know, as you always say, Fred,

1182
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: you had two guys who were former head coaches. Maybe

1183
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: they think maybe they don't think they're in charge, or

1184
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: they act like they're in Chill has to make sure

1185
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. Well, but yeah, maybe things happen. We've

1186
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: seen conflict exactly. Yeah, everybody starts shooting on each other.

1187
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think I think winning has many

1188
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: fathers losing as an orphan. I think I think Matt

1189
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: has did take some ownership, you know, more ownership this

1190
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: year than being the rookie, and that's a big thing.

1191
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: I'd like a lot on playing there too, though, is

1192
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: the confidence and so you know, hopefully that carries over

1193
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: if they're asking him to do different stuff. I just

1194
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: want to see him come out and not look like

1195
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: the sophomore who made varsity and it's like I can't

1196
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: believe him here. You're like, you know, like just there's

1197
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: elements of that at a time, a little bit of

1198
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, immaturity, and that's fine, he's a young kid, um.

1199
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: But I think part of it, it's all part of

1200
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: it stepping up, taking ownership in the offense, holding guys accountable.

1201
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: I think he did a pretty good job of that

1202
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: overall as a rookie. But I think he can make

1203
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: the strides. Oh well, sure. And he was also going

1204
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: up against a former NFL MVP. Initially, he was trying

1205
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: to play the role of, you know, rookie on this team,

1206
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: just here to learn. Now he doesn't have to worry

1207
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: about any of everybody knows it's his team. He's coming

1208
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: off the fun time at the Pro Bowl, you know,

1209
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: yucking it up and doing this. You know, I think

1210
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: even his personalities a little bit on Pages dot Com.

1211
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: He went to the Boys and Girls Club. I mean

1212
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: that's like, okay, now it's your team. I'm the team.

1213
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm the team. I'm going to be part of this community.

1214
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm you know, and I'm gonna branch out a little bit. Yeah,

1215
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: he can do more of that this year than last year. Yep. Uh,

1216
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: Speeds and Fresno on the Ace ticket hot line. What's up? Speed?

1217
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Winning as many fathers and losing as an orphan. That's

1218
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: a great one, Fred, I've never heard. Oh, come on,

1219
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: that's old. It's at least a fifteenth time Fred Juice

1220
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: on the show first time? Really Yeah, Oh yeah, that's

1221
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's an old one. Ye, not old enough.

1222
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: I I messed up my call on Toothday, kind of

1223
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: muddled it. Just uh wanted to try one more time.

1224
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: It's really bothered you because you've sent an email about it.

1225
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Now you're calling this is really weight on you. I

1226
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: have actually I have a poem about it that I'm

1227
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: going to send that. He's like, Billy wants to run

1228
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: it back hard. Um, So yeah, with the running it

1229
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: back thing, I'm you know, I'm theorizing that I still

1230
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: stick with this, that it's part of Bill's kind of

1231
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: master plan to break the Shoeler record. But I was

1232
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: trying to think about like a simpler explanation for it,

1233
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just Bill doing like what he's always

1234
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: truly thoughts best for the team, like involving like stocking

1235
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: up on the veteran middle class. But just like without Brady,

1236
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: that just doesn't work. It just doesn't work as well.

1237
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: Like that's what's happening. It's not. It's not like Bill

1238
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: is prioritizing the record. He's just sticking with the team

1239
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: building strategy that he likes, but maybe just doesn't work

1240
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: as well. I don't care what your strategy is. It

1241
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: doesn't work as well without Tom Brady. I don't care

1242
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: what your strategy is. You know, well, if you, like,

1243
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: just if you were seventy years old and you got

1244
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: to win thirty nine games, how would you do it?

1245
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: Like that? Like what would you do? Like? I mean,

1246
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: I just I just think he's doing he always does.

1247
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a short term focused guy. He tries

1248
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: to you know, That's what one thing I always have

1249
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: really liked about just His philosophy is that, you know,

1250
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: that immediate focus on be here now, right now, focus

1251
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: on this moment. And I think that's I don't know.

1252
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: I think that that's the core of who he is

1253
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: and who he is as a coach. And you know,

1254
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd love to get that record, but I

1255
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: think the way he thinks to really get there is

1256
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: to focus on today and to do what he can.

1257
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: And eventually, I've heard it from too many players to

1258
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: not realize it by now. One of part of his

1259
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: genius is his ability to simplify things. Yep, you know,

1260
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: Akham's razer, whatever you want to call it. And at

1261
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's about winning football games.

1262
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: It's about winning games. That's it. That's it. Does the

1263
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: present an obstacle? Does the present an obstacle to the

1264
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: long term success the team that he is not willing

1265
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: to sort of take some risks of tearing it down

1266
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: to the studs and having young developing players maybe good

1267
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: out there and fail and losing three wins every year

1268
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: because of that. I mean, if it wouldn't be potentially

1269
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: better for the team in the long run to have

1270
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: young players growing with Mac instead of trying to sort

1271
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: of build this core is veteran core. I just I

1272
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: just don't think that that, like it's an assured thing

1273
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: that if you were just going to cut all our

1274
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: old guys, we're gonna throw all the young guys in

1275
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: like like that assures that and you know that that

1276
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: guys are going to develop. I mean, now there's cases

1277
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: to be made individually that certain players maybe if they

1278
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 1: played a little more, might But I think philosophically, there's

1279
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: always a balance that you're looking for, and it's you know,

1280
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be good for anybody to

1281
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: have a bunch of twenty four year olds exactly out

1282
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: there and running around and not quite know what they're doing,

1283
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: and you know then it'll work out. And a quarterback,

1284
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's a balance, and I think,

1285
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's perfectly reasonable to debate if the balance

1286
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: is out of whack at times. And I know that

1287
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: he could probably sit in here and tell you exactly

1288
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: what he wants in terms of what veteran presidency needs

1289
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: and you know what positions I mean, and he doesn't

1290
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: know it. That's the beauty and the difficulty about football.

1291
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: It's just so many guys and you know what, you can't.

1292
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: You can't. It's not they're not robots, they're human beings.

1293
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: You know, you can't predict how they're all gonna react

1294
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: season the season, And even a guy like Bill doesn't

1295
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: get it right all the time. You know, we all

1296
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: go back to oh nine when he just couldn't get

1297
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: these guys to play. You know, um, it just it

1298
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: was just wrong. You know, it just wasn't working, you know.

1299
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: I guess I just think about what Eric has been

1300
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: talking about, not caring as much about the record, wanted

1301
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: to see the team progress, and I feel like there's

1302
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: so much, so much pressure to try and win, win, win, now,

1303
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: maximize the number of wins. I'd rather see like the

1304
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: team that's maybe struggling, but developing and showing promise. I

1305
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: want to hear Craft being upset about not winning a

1306
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: playoff game in the last three years. I'm like, Wow,

1307
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: everybody wants to just push for the heights right now,

1308
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what would Maybe it would be better

1309
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: if you took the gas off a little bit and

1310
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: accepted some some lackluster years. If we're gonna have long

1311
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: from growth, I don't know, ye Okay, thanks be. But

1312
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: I also think there's random teams, random years where you

1313
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: might not be the best team and you do might

1314
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: squeak into the playoffs and oh my god, won a

1315
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: couple of games and you're in the super Bowl. I

1316
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: mean it's not always. But I don't know. I just

1317
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: think they, like, I don't think they were the best team.

1318
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: If they had if they had, if they had improved

1319
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: on their those four years of bad drafts by fifty percent,

1320
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe we'd be having a different conversation today. But you

1321
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: can't get around that. Yeah, they had some bad drafts

1322
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: and that set them back. I mean, you know, I

1323
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: think Brady could still be here, you know, right, we

1324
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: could be having a different discussion today if you got

1325
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: the next Edelman, the next Gronk. I mean, really, I

1326
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: just say those two, if you got or even you know,

1327
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: say that whatever, the Gronk version of an awesome wide receiver, like,

1328
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: if you had gotten two playmakers in that range, I

1329
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: mean I could still see him here because I think

1330
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: they would have been they would have been better. They

1331
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: just didn't have the guys they were going on Edelman

1332
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: with what the money had something to do with it too,

1333
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: But I get your point. Yeah, yeah, all right, We're

1334
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna take a break when we come back. More calls

1335
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: and emails here on Patriots Unfiltered. Patriot Places the region's

1336
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: number one shopping, dining, and entertainment destination. Shop Your favorites

1337
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: include Vineyard, Vines, Express, Olympia, Sports, Peco, and more. Enjoy

1338
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: dining yet one of our nineteen restaurants, including Six String,

1339
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: Grilling Stage, Scorpion Bar, and Bar Louis. And don't forget

1340
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: about the entertainment. Explore your inner artist at Muse Pay Bar,

1341
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: watch a movie at Showcase Cinema Deluxe, or grab a

1342
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: controller and start gaming at hewis E Sports. For a

1343
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: complete directory listing, please visit Patriot dashplay dot com. The

1344
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: ruling on the field. We delivered Jersey's funny foam fingers

1345
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: and everything you need for the game, but what you

1346
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: really get is so much more FedEx delivery, game day spirit.

1347
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: What we deliver by delivering. Some people are never content

1348
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: with simply being good, not when they can be great.

1349
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: But it takes a big step to get there. In fact,

1350
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: it takes a leap of faith, a belief in what

1351
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: you're striving toward, and a willingness to make the commitment

1352
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: day in and day out to something bigger yourself. Putnam

1353
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 1: is proud to partner with those who share their own

1354
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: commitment to performance excellence. This is Matt Laffe for Putnam Investments,

1355
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: a world of investing. We are patriots in our standards

1356
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: are a little different. We don't just carry the hopes

1357
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: of a city, but the hopes of an entire region.

1358
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: For us, no uphill battle is ever too high to

1359
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: climb in. Our favorite ring is the next one. Our

1360
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: job isn't done until the final down is played and

1361
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: everyone knows we gave it our all. We the fans,

1362
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: march forward with the power to do what it takes,

1363
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: just like we've done time and time again. We are

1364
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: the home field advantage. Bank of America is proud to

1365
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: be the official bank of the New England Patriots and

1366
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: with them as they defy the odds. Copyright twenty twenty,

1367
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: Bank of America Corporation. How did Verizon build the fastest

1368
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: five G in the world. We started by building it

1369
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: right with five G ultra wide band. Then we gave

1370
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: it massive capacity and near zero lag. And it's not

1371
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: just fast, it's twenty five times faster than today's four

1372
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: G networks. This is five G built right from the network.

1373
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: More people rely on only on Verizon five G Ultra

1374
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: wide band available only in parts of select cities. Global

1375
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: claim based on open signal independent analysis twenty five times

1376
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: analysis by WHO Clubs b Test Intelligence date a Q two,

1377
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. In sports, if you think joy only happens

1378
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: after you win, think again. Look at the world's most

1379
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: successful athletes like Serena Williams, Brooks, Koepka, and Alex Morgan.

1380
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: They don't spend all that day's grinding away. They take

1381
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: time to enjoy themselves, like getting together the friends over

1382
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: Michelope Ultra, because they know that happiness is the key

1383
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: to win it, and that joy is the whole game,

1384
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: not just the end game. Michaelo Vultra ninety five calories,

1385
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: two point six grams of cars. It's only worth it

1386
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: if you enjoy it and you responsibly ab Michaelow Ultra

1387
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: light Beer Singleismori. There's no season better than football season,

1388
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: and there's no better place to get in on all

1389
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: of the action than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy

1390
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: sports partner of the New England Patriots. To add to

1391
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: the thrill, DraftKings has millions of dollars in prizes up

1392
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: for grabs every week, so head to the app now

1393
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: and check it out if you haven't tried it yet.

1394
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: Fantasy football is easy to play. Just pick nine players,

1395
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: stay under the salary cap, and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions,

1396
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: and so much more. There's no better way to put

1397
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: your football knowledge to the test than to compete for

1398
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: a shot at one million dollars in total prizes. Download

1399
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: the DraftKings app now and use promo code pats to

1400
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: get a shot at millions of dollars in total prizes

1401
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: every week. That's promo code pass to get a shot

1402
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 1: at millions of dollars in total prizes every week only.

1403
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: Ad Draft Kings Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com

1404
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: for details. Want to get into the game, Get coached

1405
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: up at Dean College. Equipped with exclusive academic partnerships featuring

1406
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Revolution, Providence Bruins, Summer Baseball, and more. Our

1407
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,919
Speaker 1: classrooms who are set up for success by learning directly

1408
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: from the pros. Dean College has programs and communications, sports management,

1409
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: business and marketing with unprecedented hands on experiences. Our students

1410
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: take what they learn in the classroom and put it

1411
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: right to work in the marketplace. At Dean College, our

1412
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: students don't just play games, we run them. Visit us

1413
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: at Dean dot du. Patriot Place is the regions number

1414
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: one shopping, dining and entertainment destination. Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Olympia, Sports,

1415
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: Peco and more. Enjoy dining at one of our nineteen

1416
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: restaurants including Six String, Grilling, Stage, Scorpion Bar, and Bar Louie.

1417
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: And don't forget about the entertainment. Explore your inner artists

1418
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: that mused paper, watch a movie at Showcase Cinema Deluxe,

1419
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: or grab a controller and start gaming at hewis E Sports.

1420
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: For a complete directory listing, please visit Patriot Dashplay dot com.

1421
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: The ruling on the field fair. We deliver Jersey's funny

1422
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: foam fingers and everything you need for the game, but

1423
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 1: what you really get is so much more FedEx delivery,

1424
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: game day spirit. What we deliver by delivering. Some people

1425
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: are never content with simply being good, not when they

1426
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: can be great. But it takes a big step to

1427
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: get there. In fact, it takes a leap of faith,

1428
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: a belief in what you're striving toward and a willingness

1429
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: to make the commitment day in and day out to

1430
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: something bigger than yourself. Putnam is proud to partner with

1431
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: those who share their own commitment to performance excellence. This

1432
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: is Matt life for Putnam Investments, a world of investing.

1433
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: We are patriots in our standards are a little different.

1434
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: We don't just carry the hopes of a city, but

1435
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: the hopes of an entire region. For us, no uphill

1436
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,839
Speaker 1: battle is ever too high to climb in. Our favorite

1437
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: ring is the next one. Our job isn't done until

1438
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: the final down is played and everyone knows we gave

1439
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: it our all. We the fans, march forward with the

1440
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: power to do what it takes, just like we've done

1441
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: time and time again. We are the home field advantage.

1442
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: Bank of America is proud to be the official bank

1443
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots and stand with them as

1444
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: they defy the odds. Copyright twenty twenty Bank of America Corporation.

1445
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: How did Verizon build the fastest five G in the world.

1446
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: We start by building it right with five G ultra

1447
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: wide band. Then we give it massive capacity and near

1448
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: zero lag. And it's not just fast it's twenty five

1449
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: times faster than today's four G networks. This is five

1450
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 1: G built right from the network more people rely on

1451
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: only on Verizon five G Ultra wide band available only

1452
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: in parts of select cities. Global claim based on open

1453
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: signal independent analysis twenty five times analysis by OO Club's

1454
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: B Test Intelligence date in Q two twenty twenty. In sports,

1455
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: if you think joy only happens after you win, think again.

1456
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: Look at the world's most successful athletes like Serena Williams,

1457
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: Brooks Koepka, and Alex Morgan. They don't spend all that

1458
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: day's grinding away. They take time to enjoy themselves, like

1459
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: getting together with friends over Michelobe Ultra, because they know

1460
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: that happiness is the key to winning, and that joy

1461
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: is the whole game, not just the end game. Michelobe

1462
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: Ultra ninety five calories, two point six grams of cars.

1463
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: It's only worth it if you enjoy it and jo

1464
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: responsibly a B michelob Ultra Light Bear, Saint Louis, Missouri.

1465
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: There's no season better than football season, and there's no

1466
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: better place to get in on all of the action

1467
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of

1468
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: the new England Patriots to add to the thrill. DraftKings

1469
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: has millions of dollars and prizes up for grabs every week,

1470
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: so head to the app now and check it out

1471
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

1472
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: to play. Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap,

1473
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and so

1474
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: much more. There's no better way to put your football

1475
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 1: knowledge to the test than to compete for a shot

1476
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: at one million dollars in total prizes. Download the DraftKings

1477
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 1: app now and use promo code pats to get a

1478
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: shot at millions of dollars in total prizes every week.

1479
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: That's promo code pats to get a shot at millions

1480
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: of dollars in total prizes every week only. Ad DraftKings

1481
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com for details. Want

1482
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: to get into the game, get coached up at Dean College,

1483
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: equip with exclusive academic partnerships featuring the Patriots, Revolution, Providence Bruins,

1484
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: Summer Baseball, and more. Our classrooms who are set up

1485
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 1: for success by learning directly from the pros. Dean College

1486
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: has programs in Communications, Sports, management, business, and marketing with

1487
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: unprecedented hands on experiences. Our students take what they learn

1488
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: in the classroom and put it right to work in

1489
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: the marketplace. At Dean College, our students don't just play games,

1490
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: we run them. Visit us at Dean dot du. Patriot

1491
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: Place is the region's number one shopping, dining, and entertainment destination.

1492
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,919
Speaker 1: Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Olympia, Sports, Peco

1493
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: and more. Enjoy dining at one of our nineteen restaurants

1494
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,919
Speaker 1: including Six String, Grilling Stage, Scorpion Bar, and Bar Louie.

1495
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: And don't forget about the entertainment. Explore your inner artists

1496
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: at Muse Paint Bar, watch a movie at Showcase Cinema Deluxe,

1497
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: or grab a controller and start gaming at helix E Sports.

1498
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: For a complete directory listing, please visit Patriot Dashplace dot com.

1499
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: The ruling on the We deliver Jersey's funny foam fingers

1500
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: and everything you need for the game, but what you

1501
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: really get is so much more FedEx delivery, game day spirit.

1502
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: What we deliver by delivering. Some people are never content

1503
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: with simply being good, not when they can be great,

1504
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: but it takes a big step to get there. In fact,

1505
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: it takes a leap of faith, a belief in what

1506
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: you're striving toward, and a willingness to make the commitment

1507
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: day in and day out to something bigger than yourself.

1508
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: Putnam is proud to partner with those who share their

1509
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: own commitment to performance excellence. This is Matt Laffe for

1510
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 1: Putnam Investments, A world of investing and now great moments

1511
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: in history final one Outside of football, I am also

1512
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: an author, martell Us parent. Nope, I care deeply about

1513
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: my charitable foundation, be right, Yeah whatever, Who doesn't know? Yeah,

1514
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: never mind? Why Ned and I have a slutty cat

1515
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: and I like to eat sawdust. Eric Skelly cat good,

1516
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: Cody good? Screw your Cody. What another about your cat? Yeah? No,

1517
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't let the cat in. I mean that's the problem.

1518
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: It's not really his cat let her in. But it's

1519
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: not your cat. Well, she's just stray. I just take

1520
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: care of her. But why don't you just take her in?

1521
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: I do let her in. I mean make her your cow,

1522
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: make you your cat. I don't mean just like five minutes, Cody,

1523
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: if you were here, I would beat the crap. You know,

1524
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: great game, Cody, good job, Like he's trying to play

1525
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, yeah, either board games with him.

1526
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: I mean, make you shut up, to make the cat yours.

1527
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: Give the cat a home. She has a home. She

1528
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: got chewed up ears. Well, then she's not a stray.

1529
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: You called her a stray. She was a stray. And

1530
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: now she lives in my house. She lives in your

1531
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: house now. So you did take her yes years ago? Fred, Okay,

1532
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: that's not the cares. Yeah, you got her the shot.

1533
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: What's the cat's name? That's not going to You don't

1534
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: have a name because you didn't take her. I did

1535
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: have You don't have a name, cat, I do have

1536
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: a name. And I told I've told you before, and

1537
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: you all like Meg, what is it? No? Mozart? Of course,

1538
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: which morningment you did? Which which movement of I hate

1539
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: you all? That's another great moment from great all right.

1540
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: Eight five five PATS five hundred is the ace ticket

1541
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 1: hotline web radio at Patriots dot com. It's the email address,

1542
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff on the table, m Patriots overtime rules

1543
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that's going on in the NFL.

1544
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: Uh Patrick writes it. Or no, it's Ron and Cambridge.

1545
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: Another person has sounds like a deceiving email address Ron

1546
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: and Cambridge. I'm in hindsight, would it have been better

1547
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: to let Brady go as the Patriots did, or keep

1548
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: him and let him run the show and recruit other

1549
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: players around the league like Tampa has done. I'm not

1550
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: sure about five years from now, but it looks like

1551
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: Tampa is much better off. It's still eye opening that

1552
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: they let him go. You don't let the Tom Brady's

1553
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: of the world play for other teams looking at you, deuce,

1554
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 1: oh well they It wasn't like he went there and

1555
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: they were terrible and they you know, everybody went. I mean,

1556
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: he certainly filled out the holes, but he had Mike

1557
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: Evans and Chris Godwin to start for some pretty good defenders,

1558
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: and you know they they threw for a bunch of

1559
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: yards the previous season. I mean, here's the thing. If

1560
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: Tom we're still here, the offense would look different. And

1561
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: let's let's assume that they acquired the modern day Gronk,

1562
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: the modern day Edelman, Welker, whatever, and they gave him

1563
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: what he needed on offense. The defense would have still

1564
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: been what the defense has been in all likelihood right,

1565
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: So at best you would have been trying to It

1566
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: would have been like the Philly Patriots Super Bowl in Minnesota.

1567
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: You'd have been keeping pace, trying to score outscore or

1568
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs, the Bills, whoever. That's what that's

1569
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: in my mind, that's the best case scenario that would

1570
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: have happened. If Tom were still here, you'd be you know,

1571
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: in shootouts all the time, and maybe you'd still be

1572
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs every year. And maybe that's what you know,

1573
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: fans would have wanted to see. But would you have

1574
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: been better off long term? I don't know. That was

1575
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: just such a long way to go in twenty nineteen.

1576
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: The roster was just so sparse, I mean, and you

1577
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: had a defense that clearly now is being rebuilt. So

1578
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: that was at the end. Oh, I don't know. It's hard.

1579
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to see how they could how they could

1580
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: have done it without having the draft pieces in place

1581
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: to at least have a core to fill out. And

1582
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: of course he would have It's like, welcome to the NFL.

1583
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: For twenty years we lived outside of it. Yeah, no,

1584
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: and I get that, but just attacking that, you know,

1585
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 1: the particular question, I mean, I don't see any reason

1586
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: why anything would have to be different, Like they could

1587
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: have done what they did and kept Brady. Oh yeah, right,

1588
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: they still would have been the only ones they had

1589
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: money in the COVID year. Like, it's not like Brady

1590
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: was getting a Deshaun Watson contracts. That wasn't happening, right,

1591
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: So they would have had money to spend and he

1592
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: would have been it was still here. It was just

1593
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: time both sides. Can we can we also say that

1594
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots are surprised that he's still playing at a

1595
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: high level. Yes, I think that's what it comes down to. Yeah,

1596
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: and I don't really think that that. You know, I

1597
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of you got a question things.

1598
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: You have to be objective, you have to I don't

1599
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: really think that's a huge thing that I look back

1600
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: at Bill and say, you dummy, They didn't know he

1601
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: was going to still be MVP atty. How did you

1602
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: not know that? Like, I don't think that's they had

1603
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: a plan. Brady ruined it. No, But I'm not even

1604
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: talking about the Garoppolo thing I am. I'm just talking

1605
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: about after Garoppolo's gone, you know, following the nineteen season,

1606
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: they still could have retained him and they didn't. Yeah,

1607
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: and I think because they would ask them then if

1608
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: they thought this was possible, they would have said, no,

1609
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: it's the odds are against it, right, And I think

1610
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: that that's that was sound. I think that was sounds logic.

1611
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: He's defying the he's defying the odds. Yeah, Neil writes

1612
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: in can't listen live. However, I think last night's news

1613
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: makes me feel better about Brady not mentioning the Patriots

1614
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: and Patriots fans because Brady was never really retired. It

1615
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: was all a leverage move to get rid of a

1616
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: lame duck coach. It also is a huge compliment to Bill.

1617
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: Brady did twenty years with Bill. Couldn't stand arians after two.

1618
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm surprised it's Bowls though, seeing they lost to the

1619
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: Rams on that stupid blitz call. Is Sean Payton not

1620
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: allowed to coach due to contract obligations? Well he would

1621
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: have to get creded. Yeah, he's still the right, he

1622
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: was under contract. Um. Yeah, that's an interesting to mean

1623
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, with Bill for twenty Bowls against

1624
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: the the Rams and the playoffs game that allowed Cooper

1625
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: Cup to get that. That was a zero cover blitz

1626
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: that Bowls called that allowed the big play from Stafford. Yeah,

1627
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of blank stairs. No one watched

1628
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs either, No, I why do I have to

1629
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,919
Speaker 1: be made out to be like this? I got sidetracked

1630
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: just because they said Brady's in like the front row. Yeah,

1631
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: like just like like the villain, like tapping his fingers,

1632
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: like you will. You will say what I told you left.

1633
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: You will say what I told him to say. That's

1634
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: not how evenhearsed it. Ruth Joakins in Santa Rosa, California.

1635
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: What's up, Joaquin? Good morning? Fellas you are you are

1636
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: you guys doing? We're doing great? Nice? Um. I had

1637
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: one question for all you guys. Um, if each of

1638
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: you guys had the option of trading away our first

1639
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: round pick for a player A for what position would

1640
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: it be? And be? Which player in that position? Oh

1641
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Well, you know, if trade trade

1642
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: away the twenty first pick this year for any player

1643
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady, I was going to say, Pat Mahomes, Yeah,

1644
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like, are we limited? It can't be the

1645
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: quarterback obviously? Are you limiting us to as I like

1646
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: I want Deebo Samuel. I'm high on you, very high.

1647
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: The best football player in the NFL. About Davante Adams,

1648
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: I'll take him to give Mac Jones the number one

1649
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: elite receiver that you've wanted here for a long time.

1650
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put some into this game. I take

1651
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. You know, man, you don't like him, Okay, No,

1652
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: he taunted us, and I don't like that he was

1653
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: mean to taunting. Uh anybody Deebo Samuel. Yeah, I'm trying

1654
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: to think of like a defender that I might want

1655
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, don't. I mean, let's you know, shoot for

1656
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: the moon. We get at him, forgot about him? Yeah,

1657
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, I know he might retire. Thought he might retire.

1658
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: He's probably got ten more years left. But Paul, he's

1659
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: going to come with his wife. I don't care. So

1660
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of in any of those players. But you know,

1661
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: I think you have to put a cap on it.

1662
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's the twenty first pick, right, That's that's

1663
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: a good point. What would what? What could it get?

1664
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: Some now realistic trade options for the twenty first pick right,

1665
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: probably get a real good corner maybe yeah, maybe I

1666
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: don't know what i'd want though. Yeah, And also I

1667
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: just wanted to make just a couple of comments, Um,

1668
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: I haven't noticing like this year you guys beginning like

1669
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,480
Speaker 1: like I want to say, like really negative callers and emailers,

1670
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: like just like Debbie Downers. But I just want to say,

1671
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: you guys keep up the great work, because you guys

1672
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: are like the most realistic of Patriot fans. Like you

1673
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 1: guys are just really down to earth and you guys

1674
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: see what we as fans do not see. And it's

1675
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: like I just really wanted to tell you guys to

1676
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: just keep it up and like you kid was really

1677
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 1: great at what you guys do. Appreciate that. All. Let

1678
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: us go to one Patriot Place care of Robert Kraft,

1679
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: So you're welcome. Have a great day, you guys. Thanks

1680
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: Thanks walking Uh, cj'son Casey, what's up? CJ? Hey, what's up? Guys. Um,

1681
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: I want to just start off by apologizing for the

1682
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: lateness of this call, because I actually meant to call

1683
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: in after the Tyreek trade went through because I have

1684
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: a personal story to share about that last year. I'm

1685
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: a real Stagian out here in Kin City and I

1686
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: was showing him home, believe it or not, and yeah,

1687
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: thank you, and he ended up buying in Miami last year,

1688
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: and I said it at the time. I was like,

1689
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: I was telling all of the Chiefs fans out here.

1690
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, just so you know, your boys

1691
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: leaving pretty soon. And they were like, no, they're gonna

1692
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: lock him up. They're gonna keep my homes and Kelsey

1693
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: and Tyreek together. They're through until they can't play anymore.

1694
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: And and then I was like, well, okay, well I

1695
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: guess we'll see. And then I thought it was really

1696
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: I still think it's surprising that he ended up in Miami,

1697
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: which is where he bought a home, but I think

1698
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: he mentioned that it was a year ago. Do you

1699
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: guys ever see that stuff happening where people end up

1700
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: a year in advance, kind of going somewhere and hoping

1701
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,879
Speaker 1: that they end up there. Well, there was that whole

1702
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: hubbub of Brady's house either in Greenwich, Connecticut or New

1703
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: York and remember were for a while. Yeah, uh, annoying.

1704
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this is connected to that guy that calls

1705
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: in from Florida and sells the furniture too, because maybe

1706
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: he outfitted Tyreek killed. You must have been you must

1707
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: have been bummed though, if you missed out on a

1708
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: commission on Tyreek Kill. That must have been some good

1709
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: money you missed on that one. Yeah, yeah, bit, Yeah,

1710
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: it's fine. I do think he said, like during the

1711
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: press conference that like he considered Miami home to him,

1712
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: and that someone was like, oh, we're considering the jetsia

1713
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: what nah? Nah? So it did seem like he had

1714
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 1: had to be sad clown face. Yeah, but who where

1715
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: is he from? Come on, Tyree Hill, I don't know.

1716
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: Originally Georgia. Thank you from Georgia. Yeah. I think he

1717
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: implied he like considers Miamila because of course when you

1718
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: got there, when you got a bunch of money, where

1719
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: else you gonna call him? Earth? All right? Thanks? Thanks

1720
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: c j Um. How about a game? Who am I?

1721
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: All right? Like that? We know the rules? Game? Neil

1722
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: from Warwick writes in Rhode Island, Warwick, Rhode Island. Yeah,

1723
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: I assume no um knows all the California every every everything.

1724
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: Are we ready? Yes? Okay? I was a draft pick

1725
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. Well that's kind of open,

1726
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Sante Samuel. Wrong, Okay, I'm out Paul doesn't want to

1727
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: play anymore. I played at the same college as Trey

1728
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Flowers two thousand and four draft pick, same college as

1729
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: tre Flowers. I cannot answer. Remember out out final, remember

1730
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: final clue. I wasn't a star in any form and

1731
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: ended my career in Denver like Moroney, can't get it?

1732
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: Can I guess? Yes? Okay? Arkansas? Right? It was all right?

1733
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: Is the Arkansas? Oh? No, never mind, I don't know.

1734
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: Never mind, I forgot enlighten ess Go ahead now. Now

1735
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: you guys got Cobs Corn on the cedrac Cobs Oh,

1736
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember him. I was a runner, remember Samuel

1737
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: may have been an O three draft pick, now that

1738
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. I was a running back during

1739
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: our second title run in two thousand and three. Running

1740
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: back second title run in three Mm hmm, you should

1741
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: get the next one easy. I went to Boston College

1742
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: and played with Cloud Cloud is correct, um sticking with?

1743
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: I was a Boston College player who played with Tim

1744
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Matt and Mike Tim hasselback Matt Hassel Dan copen, No,

1745
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: you are out. I was a local kid here right

1746
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: down the road. Chris Sullivan. That's a local man that

1747
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: does sound like some does Sully. I was involved in

1748
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: a tuck rule play the same year as the Snow

1749
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: Bowl Okay, so that was what Kansas City. I'm eliminating

1750
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: myself because I can't possibly think of any play that

1751
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: was anything like that. I played under parcels twice and

1752
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: played with Tony Romo. Paul. Should Paul get this one

1753
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: and final clue? I had a short stint here. Huh,

1754
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was bloods for a second

1755
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: give up? Yeah, Vinny Testa Verdi, he was involved in

1756
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: a tuck rule game. No earlier in that the legends

1757
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: when they knew right legend, it was the same call

1758
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: until until what I think is a great job by

1759
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: that documentary, the Tuck Rule documentary, which actually showed the play.

1760
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: Everybody always writes about it happening because Bill said it. Well,

1761
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: the call was made. It was like nothing. Even the

1762
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: play was different. Snow snow right, No snow last one

1763
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: I played here into complet like he threw the ball

1764
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: down into the ground. It was not like a fumble

1765
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 1: in any way. So he threw the ball as he

1766
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: got hit and the ball went down to the ground.

1767
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: What did it seem like? That's what an actual tuck

1768
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: should have been. Oh, yes, it wasn't the tuck rule.

1769
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: It was any complete passed I don't know what they

1770
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: call it. I don't they never they never showed that.

1771
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: But like it was like he got hit and went

1772
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: like this with the ball and it came out of

1773
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 1: his hand. It was a pass. It wasn't like I'm

1774
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: like this holding onto the ball. I got hit and

1775
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: the ball came out. The two players had nothing in

1776
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 1: common other than the fact that they both took place

1777
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: on a football field. I played here in two thousand

1778
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: five and two thousand and six, two thousand and five

1779
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: and two thousand and six. When in a time, since

1780
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: I have a commanding lead, I'm gonna go Tim Dwight incorrect.

1781
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 1: He only played one season, I believe you know whatever.

1782
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: I reunited with Corey Dillon after playing in Cincinnati and

1783
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 1: to stop in Carolina and final clue, I wore the

1784
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: same number as Pat Chun did his first tenure with

1785
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: the team, twenty five. I don't know. Three. Mr Hawkins, Wow,

1786
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: well that's a good one. Five voice, good good Eric.

1787
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: That was very I forgot that he had played for

1788
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Carolina too, and he Connor was like when Rodney got hurt. No. Six,

1789
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: he kind of had to step in. Pat new Hampshire

1790
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: about simple overtime rule. You were talking to the other

1791
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: day about the rules. I have an idea to make

1792
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: it fair for both teams. First team in overtime that

1793
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: has the lead and the ball wins. That's it. That's

1794
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: the rule. Simple. I thought we had a caller, but

1795
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: I think he hung up. So get back to back

1796
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 1: to the inbox. Back to the inbox. Um yawn with

1797
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: a soft ja. So I said it right from the

1798
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: Czech Republic. Check yourself. You know where you wreck yourself?

1799
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: Been to the Czech Republic? Do you know where the

1800
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: Czech Republic is? I've been to the Czech Republic. You've

1801
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: been there. Yes, What were you doing? Czech Republic was

1802
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: on vacation, given out cat food. He's trying to get you.

1803
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna do You went

1804
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: to check the Slovakia on vacation or did you just

1805
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 1: travel through it? No, we went to Prague, that was

1806
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: the place, and to Pilsen where the Pilsner beers originated.

1807
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: So so that was your destination. Czech the Slovakia, Czech Republic,

1808
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 1: Austria and Budapest also was an area. Yeah. Nice? Nice?

1809
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Was it like a Viking cruise? Or no, now we

1810
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: went over land. We went overland. You get those pamphlet

1811
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 1: and no, but they're intriguing to me. You want to

1812
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: go pillage kind of what you know? Mad? Have you about? Northman?

1813
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Are you gonna watch that movie? Northman? Northmandn't even seen

1814
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: it yet. It's about a Viking probably will. Was that

1815
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 1: a Netflix thing or an actual in theater movie? I'm

1816
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: not sure. You know what I just watched the other

1817
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: day was telling these guys House of Gucci you would oh, yeah,

1818
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: I saw it. Yeah, and I think Lady Gaga did

1819
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: get snubbed. She was I didn't even know what that

1820
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: movie fred. Sorry, yeah, Northman. Yeah, the trailer made it

1821
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: look unwatchable. No, it was good. It wasn't okay movie

1822
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: it was good. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't great. I

1823
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: didn't know it was Lady Gaga until afterwards, and I'm like, Okay,

1824
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: she should get any Academy award because I didn't know,

1825
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: because you didn't know it was her. Yeah, she disappeared exactly.

1826
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: She was a chameleon. I don't understand why that's she

1827
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: was such a great actress. I didn't know she did,

1828
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 1: and she did do a good job she broke in

1829
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: the song in the Middle. I know she was very

1830
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: she was very good. Yeah, I thought she was good

1831
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:14,520
Speaker 1: in um A Stars. I didn't see that movie. Yeah good.

1832
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: Just thinking of all the performances I've seen, I knew that.

1833
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: You know, Michael Cole was out so thought he was read.

1834
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't really understand the correlation. I didn't even know

1835
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: it was her. She deserves an award. There are actors

1836
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: like that though, just like man, right, you know, oh yeah,

1837
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: you know it's down, but they just take it on

1838
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: and they almost have like a difference. You forget that

1839
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: it's you forget that it's that. Yes, I like when

1840
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: you see totally different characters too, Yeah, the same right,

1841
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: not like cookie cutter actors, right, play the same role

1842
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: all the time, right exactly. I mean, and there's a

1843
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: place for that. Two guys that do a specific role

1844
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: really really well, and they're good every time, but it's

1845
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: a similar Roleuce willis God bless him. You know. Tom

1846
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Cruise was like that in the eighties. He played the

1847
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: same character and like five different movies, Top Gun, Cocked,

1848
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 1: Color of Money, you know, Days of Thunder, the same character,

1849
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: just a different storyline. Good cut really good at it.

1850
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: Get to Yon's email. Finally, his idea for over time.

1851
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I've not heard it anywhere yet. For the alternative more fair,

1852
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh two roles I got inspired by soccer. They might

1853
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: sound ridiculous, but bear with me. After regular time tie,

1854
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 1: two ten minute periods with alternating kickoffs, one time out

1855
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 1: per period. If it is still a tie, have equivalent

1856
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 1: of soccer penalties or ice hockey shootouts. Five series. Okay,

1857
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 1: forget it, you'll lost me. Well, that's like instead of

1858
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: just playing a quarter, you play like a little sorry game.

1859
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: And I will have and you have like two kinds.

1860
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: I will say this generally when someone calls or rights

1861
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: in and says, I haven't heard anyone say blank. Usually

1862
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: everyone has said it. That's one that I never heard

1863
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: anybody say. Let's just play an entire new game right

1864
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: two to see if maybe the player see if maybe

1865
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: the players keel over and die right there, right there

1866
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: on the sideline. If you really wanted to make it

1867
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: more like a soccer thing, you do, he said, have

1868
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: the two halves, the two kickoffs, right, and then if

1869
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: they're still tied at the end, now you get the

1870
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: kickers out there to kick field goals like instead of

1871
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: like right, uh, you know a shootout. Do you think

1872
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 1: if they did that? You know how like the kickers,

1873
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: you know field goal kickers they make like, you know,

1874
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: eighty five plus percent every guy, like even the bad ones.

1875
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: Do you think if they did a shootout they would

1876
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: put pressure on like three each that they would they

1877
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: would always go like one for three probably probably, Well,

1878
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: they'd have to increase the distance every time, you know,

1879
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: like you start at like thirty five, then you go

1880
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: to forty five and then fifty five with your left foot.

1881
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: You have to kick from the the the back line

1882
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: of the end zone, you know when they do those

1883
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: in training camp and they that sharp angle they've been

1884
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 1: curve him in jacket Inaba says uh, I think sarcastically,

1885
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Trey Nixon is a young, fast player. He is, uh,

1886
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: he's young. It's pretty fast. I've seen nothing to indicate

1887
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: that he can play well. Run yeah, run a little

1888
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: bit college. I made that, Paul, I'm just gonna be

1889
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: a good one, um ceremonial. That's true. Another pick a

1890
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: player who could have an immediate impact. Obviously, just pick

1891
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: anyone great player whoever. The first round I'm going to

1892
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: stick with Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I mean right, not you know,

1893
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Paul and the colony. I totally agree that

1894
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: Bill can't be faulted for assuming Brady was finally going

1895
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 1: to fall off the Kellerman cliff. But what if Kraft

1896
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: had sided with the fan in himself and decided to

1897
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: insist the Bill that Brady be able to stay as

1898
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: long as he wants under whatever contract he wanted. Do

1899
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: you think Bill would have resigned? Knowing what we know now,

1900
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 1: do you think the Patriots would be better off going

1901
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty two season with Brady instead of Bill? Hmm?

1902
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Probably have resigned. Probably, But again, I don't think it's

1903
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 1: really like I don't think it's a realistic critique because

1904
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: of just the absurdity of him playing like this at

1905
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: forty five, forty four it August, right, Yeah, I don't

1906
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: know how you could have envisioned that. I mean, he

1907
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: literally played at a MVP level at forty four, right,

1908
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I don't know how you could have predicted that.

1909
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Roger and Saint Louis, what's your somewhat strange but kind

1910
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: of realistic theory and Patriots slash NFL history? Mine is stolen,

1911
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 1: but I've talked myself into it. Twenty eight three was

1912
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: the end of the Brady era. Like Fred said, it's

1913
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: set back the Jimmy g succession plan. And this part

1914
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: is a little stretch. Brady didn't like being treated as

1915
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: just another player in meetings by the coach, in the

1916
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: relationship soured. What theories do you have? Because it was more.

1917
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: I think it was more than that than being treated

1918
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: like every other player. I think there was something else

1919
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: involved in that, but I think that was part of it.

1920
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Could have been, it was a big part of it.

1921
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: He thought he deserves special treatment. You know, it's just

1922
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: general special treatment. General theory is that what we ask for.

1923
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: General theory. General had hurt, he would have been the

1924
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: greatest player ever to play NFL football maybe, you know, Yeah,

1925
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: he was awesome every time. He looking for something that

1926
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: happened that changed things or I don't really understand what

1927
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: we're look at. Yeah, I don't know. Is it a

1928
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory kind of thing? Yeah, he's looking forward. I

1929
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 1: think he's thinking that the end of the dynasty really

1930
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: took place when Brady led that comeback. Yeah, even though

1931
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: they won again right after that. Yeah, because then they

1932
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: couldn't get rid of him, right, I don't know. I

1933
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: think the Butler super Bowl fifty two things is the

1934
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 1: one that needs to be Yeah, I'm still trying to

1935
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: figure out is he looking for that happened or didn't

1936
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: happen right? And would have changed? Like I'm not really

1937
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: sure exactly, Like, yeah, the bow Jackson and the Malcolm

1938
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: Butler things are how history may have been different headed

1939
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: unfold right differently? Would they still have won the Super

1940
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: Bowl if Brady hadn't gotten suspended because he wasn't. I

1941
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: still say if they had beaten the Eagles in that

1942
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he would have retired and then unretired and

1943
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: then unretired. You know, yeah, all the time versus time

1944
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Episode five would have been different, that's for sure, you know.

1945
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean I know that that's a common thing. It's

1946
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: just hard to say right now because he like, I mean, now,

1947
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: if you retired at that point, all the football you

1948
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: would have missed out. I mean, I don't know, I

1949
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,799
Speaker 1: just I guess I understand letting the coach extend longer

1950
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: to build the team after the player, you know, like

1951
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: that's part of it too. I think that you know,

1952
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: you could tie your hitch to Brady and get rid

1953
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: of Bill. But then when Brady leaves, you're you're at

1954
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 1: ground zero. So and maybe there'll be a ground zero again.

1955
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 1: But I at least understand the theory of I have

1956
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: a all time coach here GM, you know, let him

1957
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: kind of set the stage. That's what I'm saying, Like,

1958
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a huge like critique, like here's

1959
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,799
Speaker 1: one what they did made sense. It would seem logical

1960
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: that the coach will be coaching at a high level

1961
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: longer than the player will be playing at a high level.

1962
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: If Josh McDaniels hadn't turned down the Colts, we wouldn't

1963
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 1: be worrying about who's the offensive coordinator today because something

1964
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. I don't think he is. I think

1965
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: he's looking for points in time that we're turning, points

1966
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: that actually happened. I think yeah, I think yeah, Like

1967
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: I don't think he's saying like maybe he is. Maybe

1968
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: he's saying, if Brady didn't lead the twenty eight to

1969
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: three comeback, then the dynasty would have ended, right. I

1970
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: think that's what his point is, right, right, right, Like

1971
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: that ended the dynasty because it would have been easier

1972
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: to make a decision, right, they could have gone to

1973
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Garoppolo if he didn't lead that comeback. How about if

1974
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: they had just paid Dion branch and oh six, they

1975
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: never would have had Randy Moss and gone sixteen and now.

1976
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: So now I think that works, and I think that's

1977
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: what he's looking for. I'm not smart enough to figure it.

1978
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys all fighting Brian from the Bay Area.

1979
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 1: What's more likely after Max's third season, the Patriots pick

1980
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 1: up his fifth year option, or the Patriots select a

1981
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round. Oh man, Yeah, I'll go

1982
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: with that me too. Do you think they'll like reserve

1983
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: the right to change how much? How much is Deshaun

1984
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Watson's contract going to hang over every quarterback negotiation from

1985
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: now on? In terms of guarantee money? I think it's

1986
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to Like how can you not? I mean,

1987
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 1: what's the starting point for negotiation? But I mean, if

1988
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm an agent, right, you want to hapen the market

1989
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: deal right, and or you're asking for fully guaranteed everything,

1990
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: like I mean, yeah, the Vikings gave one year thirty

1991
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 1: five to to what's his name there cousins, But the

1992
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Deshaun thing was what's again, forty six million a year

1993
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: on average, something ridiculous for the one this year in case. Well,

1994
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: but I mean you bring him up, Eric, and I

1995
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: meant to ask you because you were at the owner's meeting.

1996
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: I heard there was a lot of scuttle button, a

1997
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: lot of dismay by other teams that the Browns just

1998
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 1: screwed up the whole market for quarterbacks the other owners. Yeah,

1999
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: by the other owners. But that would hear any of

2000
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,799
Speaker 1: that in the meetings? Yeah? That was? That was Yeah supposed,

2001
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, we weren't in. We weren't in, But like,

2002
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: did you hear talk about that? Not not really, but

2003
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me to hear that, because I mean, god,

2004
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 1: I'm mighty. I mean thirty forty six million a year

2005
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 1: and guaranteeing all that money. I mean, we saw the

2006
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,719
Speaker 1: big trades last year with uh, you know, Detroit and

2007
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: la the three draft picks for the quarterback, so that

2008
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 1: we kind of like we're foreseeing, Okay, Watson's gonna probably

2009
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 1: get three first round picks as a uh you know,

2010
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: as a haul from from the other team. But the

2011
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: contract is what really, like that just seemed way more

2012
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: than I think anybody was expecting. And you're right, I

2013
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: think from now on, like, whoever the next big quarterback is, Like,

2014
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: I know, Mahomes signed one hundred million dollar one, so

2015
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: he's not up for a while. But but Burrow. Right,

2016
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 1: if Burrow plays well again and leads them to the

2017
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: playoffs and beat the Browns twice a year, right, a

2018
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 1: couple more years, right, Like somebody like that is going

2019
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, hey, ching and you know the

2020
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: brown The Bengals are not known for to spend money.

2021
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,879
Speaker 1: They only think the next next quarterback of the Patriots

2022
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Yeah, she's saying it. You know, if the

2023
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 1: other owners have to hope that this completely implodes that

2024
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: they can say they haven't work. Yeah, I think it's

2025
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: a good chance of it. Um. James Pettigrew, the most

2026
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 1: interesting Patriots fan of the world, writes in who has

2027
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: the better record over the next three years? Bill or Josh?

2028
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Over the next three years? Yeah? I think Bill, because

2029
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: that AFC West is tough right now. I think Josh.

2030
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: I think Josh has a better roster. Yeah, I think, yeah,

2031
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and I would hope that maybe Josh is

2032
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: a little better in the beginning, and Bill is a

2033
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 1: little better at the end. Maybe that's what you hope for.

2034
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: They can change quick and look, Derek carrs in the

2035
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: last year of his contract, and if they don't forty

2036
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 1: six million, I know they you know, supposedly they're talking

2037
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 1: about the extensions, but if they can't extend in there's

2038
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 1: no guarantee that you're going to get a guy better sure,

2039
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: so that could obviously dramatically impacts Then he gets Mac

2040
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 1: Jared and Virginia m good for him. The conversation from

2041
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: last show about Max's comments after the Colts game and

2042
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: how the team seemed off is interesting. Paul thought that

2043
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: the new veterans may have been the issue. My concern

2044
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 1: is that too many guys that we're here with Brady

2045
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: maybe the source of the problem, not all of them,

2046
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: but I'm concerned that some might be just going through

2047
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 1: the motions because they already won under Brady, or don't

2048
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 1: see themselves as what they are now, a team that's

2049
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: out of the hunt. I'm worried that we have guys

2050
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: that don't have the drive needed to rebuild but instead

2051
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 1: are complacent. That's interesting. Um, I think there's a little

2052
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 1: bit of that maybe, but I don't know how many

2053
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: how many of those guys are really left though. I

2054
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 1: mean it's it's been a few years now. I mean

2055
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: there's been some significant turnover. I mean you could look

2056
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 1: at the offensive line. I know, those are a lot

2057
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: of guys that that we're here with Brady and are

2058
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: still around. But you know, I don't know, there's just

2059
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of those those guys around anymore. So,

2060
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, does Devin mccordy going through the motions? Yeah,

2061
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: And a couple of things that you have to keep

2062
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: in mind. And this is something that Fred talks about

2063
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: a lot. Like sometimes these things, you know, we talk

2064
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: all the time and we're always trying to offer our

2065
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions and analyzing situations, and these things become fact.

2066
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Like just because I mentioned that doesn't mean that I'm right,

2067
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that's that's what happened. That's a fact,

2068
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: And you know they have problems, But I've just thrown

2069
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: it out there as a possibility, you know, based on

2070
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: some observations, you know, and I think we talked about

2071
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: it on Tuesday with Macum. You're coming out of that

2072
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 1: Colts game and the talk about the buy and the oddities,

2073
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: sorry for ourselves, right, you know, So I'm not just

2074
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 1: like throwing it out there, But by no means am

2075
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: I suggesting that it's act. It's one hundred percent fact.

2076
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: That's what happens on your show. It happens on all

2077
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: this start really theory, and by the end of the show, right,

2078
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: you know, And then and then two weeks they're building

2079
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 1: off of that, and then the next the next day

2080
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: someone calls in and they'll reference it and they'll be like,

2081
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, you know when it's like you know, what

2082
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: what what what Belichick said? Yeah? You know, you know

2083
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 1: Belichick makes twenty five million dollars and it's in this

2084
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: contract that no one can make more than him, that

2085
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: that was a theory one day, that by the end

2086
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 1: of the show was fact. Yeah. Yeah. They become so

2087
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: entrenched that it just like it becomes a talking point.

2088
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: You don't even really have to expect. The problem is

2089
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 1: the way it's interpreted. It's not necessarily like That's why

2090
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: I said, like, yeah, I threw it out there, but

2091
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's right, doesn't mean it's a fact, right, right,

2092
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: And I think we follow everything that happens and everything

2093
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 1: that is said. And you know, you guys have been

2094
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 1: doing this for twenty years plus, so I mean when

2095
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 1: things ping your radar, it's notable, you know, like you

2096
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 1: guys know like when and like, I think that was

2097
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: something he's good at that, Freddy. Freddy is very good

2098
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 1: intact these little things that get said. No, I'm being serious.

2099
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes you take little things that are said and you

2100
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 1: look at you do it all the time in the

2101
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: post game show when Bill's talking and we're listening to

2102
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,600
Speaker 1: the postgame show. You almost always like did you hear that?

2103
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest with you. Usually for me

2104
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: out because you know, halfway through like the oh three season,

2105
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: I kind of tuned out Bill's press conference and you know,

2106
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 1: like you know, every once in a while you miss

2107
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,600
Speaker 1: stuff because once, you know, once every ten games he

2108
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: says something that was a weird snort right there. I

2109
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: don't know, but Freddy's good at picking up on little

2110
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: subtleties sometimes with those Belichick Prescott, I'm not making fun

2111
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: of you. I think you think I am, but I'm not.

2112
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: Felga is really good at it. Yeah, he was really

2113
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: good at it. I think it's hard though, too, Like

2114
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 1: a player like Mac where you have a kid talking

2115
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 1: at a press conference and he a little nervous, you know,

2116
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: and he's trying to get the words out, and you

2117
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: know it can be it caused for problem if you

2118
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: kind of take things the wrong way that we're said

2119
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: kind of just trying to But but when he said

2120
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: and I remember when he said it, you know, people

2121
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: were feeling sorry for ourselves. What the hell are you

2122
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 1: feeling sorry about? You just came off the by you

2123
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: were the number one, you got you're in the driver's position,

2124
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 1: the number one seed in December, and you lost the game.

2125
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: We're just there to feel sorry, you know. And then

2126
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: you sort of look into it. You see some of

2127
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 1: the stuff about that bye and they weren't happy that

2128
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: they had to play on Saturday, you know, And that's

2129
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that's right that the Rails like weak

2130
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: minded teams, not not Patriots teams. Uh Johnson and Porters

2131
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: Lake Nova Scotia. Two questions. When is the PU crew

2132
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: releasing the Draft prospect podcasts? Funny you should ask. We're

2133
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: gonna record some of those after this show. Oh, by

2134
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: the way, Matt, we're gonna record some of those podcasts

2135
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: that I read the question. So next week, um my guesses. Well,

2136
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 1: we'll start rolling them out Monday. Okay, we'll have maybe

2137
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on Monday, running backs on Wednesday, something like that.

2138
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 1: May see. Uh. And second, I was looking ahead at

2139
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: a way too early floor and ceiling for wins for

2140
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: the upcoming season. Based on your current feeling, what is

2141
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: the floor and ceiling of this team? I've got four

2142
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: wins to ten wins. Kind of the get gap it is. Yeah,

2143
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go like six, I'm gonna go six to eight.

2144
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go six to nine, seven to nine. I

2145
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 1: can live with six to nine. Yeah, seven to nine.

2146
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 1: Look who's on the high side, none other than Eric's galleo. Wow.

2147
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: Seven is my four? Nine is the ceiling. I don't

2148
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: think he's learned. I don't think he had the learning

2149
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 1: he's learning. You know, it took what I had. I

2150
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 1: had seven and ten last year. I'm with you, friend,

2151
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 1: we know Eric, But I have the right to I

2152
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: reserve the right to change my mind. I can't wait

2153
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: till the first round that Thursday night, no matter who

2154
01:50:54,320 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 1: they picked. Friends there until I'm talking play this year,

2155
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: but I like it until they trade downspoint Oh, he'll

2156
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: still still like what they're doing with this draft. I

2157
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: like what they're holes. I give them an a night.

2158
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: Anthony from Connecticut. I've been a minute since I've written in,

2159
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: but I've been loving the shows. This morning I heard

2160
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Craft's comments and they were shocking. I firstly didn't realize

2161
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: we have been without a playoff win since the Super

2162
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: Bowl in Atlanta, and wow. My question for the team is,

2163
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: do you think this was him speaking as a fan

2164
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: like we all do, or as a subtle message to

2165
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: Bill that he needs to perform or be warned. I

2166
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 1: would hope that he isn't giving subtle media messages after

2167
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: twenty plus years, but it is hard to ignore the possibility.

2168
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for all you do, and we need the big

2169
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Paul versus Mike battle. It'll happen maybe round one. Um,

2170
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think I think it's I mean,

2171
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it's and it's it's smart, it's smart, it's

2172
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's I think he's playing the

2173
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: part of the owner. I think he's shown that he's

2174
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 1: on the side of the fans, and you know, those

2175
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: are the people that that drive all of the actually

2176
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: said that, he actually said those words. You know, I'm

2177
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 1: a first and foremost I meant fan. It's one of

2178
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: the best things he's got in his back pocket of

2179
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: of you know, being a season ticket holder back in

2180
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:25,719
Speaker 1: the day and and you know season that's a two fourteen.

2181
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Don't think you know they had benches back then. I

2182
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 1: took us was on those. But I mean I think

2183
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 1: that that that just will always give him announce a credibility,

2184
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: credibility when anyone who sat in those stands and remembers

2185
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: watching miserable football games like you just even no, it's

2186
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 1: not you know again like Jeremy Jakes is one of

2187
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, like you know, like you know, he's he

2188
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: feels it, and I'm sure all owners feel it because

2189
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: they want to win money. But you know, you want

2190
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 1: to know that there's just that that undying kind of

2191
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: patriot burning in him. Um George in Virginia, a lot

2192
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: of Virginia emailers say something realini button around today, the

2193
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 1: three year playoff drought. Yeah, like in the Patriots defense here,

2194
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: like is that really that huge of a drought? Like

2195
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: they've gone three years without winning a playoff game. Two

2196
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 1: of those three years they were actually in there. Well,

2197
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: that just shows you like how great we have it here,

2198
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,560
Speaker 1: that we're complete like other teams. I just want to

2199
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 1: play years ago. Okay, that's good. I just wanted to

2200
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 1: point that out. I know, and they're not that bad here,

2201
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 1: and some of us recognize that it's not easy, right,

2202
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 1: win every year? Yeah, and don't forget it's tough to

2203
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: win in the tough don't you know. No, you guys

2204
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 1: might not know that, right, don't forget. In twenty twenty

2205
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: there was a path too. It's a path. Oh, that's right,

2206
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 1: the path, the path of the path, playoff path. There

2207
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: was a path to a sixth game. Unfortunately, Cam Newton

2208
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: was lying in across you couldn't get over him. He

2209
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: fumbled on the bath. Poor poor camp took the shot out.

2210
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: He's got some interests. He's got some interest Yeah, he does.

2211
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't know it is George and Virginia. I have

2212
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: a semi Patriots what oh? I have a semi Patriots

2213
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: related question, And as a traditional podcast listener, I won't

2214
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 1: be able to hear y'all's response till later. I don't

2215
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 1: listen to the show. Back when I didn't listen to

2216
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: the show back when the Patriots beat the Falcons and

2217
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, And I was wondering your thoughts about

2218
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Do you think the twenty eight three jokes

2219
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 1: should follow him to Indie? I personally always put that

2220
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: on the Falcons coaches and defense and not so much

2221
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 1: on him. I see a lot of Patriots fans trash

2222
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: talking him online and in any comment section where he's

2223
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: brought up. What's your opinion on that? Also, if you

2224
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 1: don't mind wasting a little more time on this email,

2225
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 1: could you all recall your feelings after that Super Bowl win? Yeah? God,

2226
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I am a twenty leave Matt Ryan alone.

2227
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe what I just so Ye like

2228
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: you saw it coming, you felt it, but one even

2229
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 1: and then after they finished it, you couldn't believe. It

2230
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: was hard to believe. Yeah, he made a couple of

2231
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:07,839
Speaker 1: mistakes in the game along the way, like they all, Yeah,

2232
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: the whole team screwed up. I don't really I never

2233
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 1: really looked at that, As you know, he was an

2234
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: individual thing. I didn't not get it. Just Don Shanahan either. Um.

2235
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I think he I think I think he bears a

2236
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: lot of the responsibility because I think they were in

2237
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: field goal range to ice it and he should have

2238
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: just been content to do that. But I don't know,

2239
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I never put it all on

2240
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Yeah. Sure, I think he's a good quarterback.

2241
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's great. I think he's good. Um,

2242
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Roger and Saint Louis does clarify his question to us,

2243
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 1: Paul is right with what I'm getting at. I'm looking

2244
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: for turning points and Patriots or NFL history that had

2245
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: unforeseen consequences. Yeah, so like drafting Tom Brady, I mean

2246
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 1: nobody saw that, right, I like mine where it's a

2247
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: weird like you might have won the super Bowl in

2248
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: OH six, but he probably wouldn't have not kept branch

2249
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 1: and they ended up having success with that in running

2250
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: in OH six? Do they go probably wouldn't have been

2251
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 1: as aggressive in OH seven? Now they didn't win anything

2252
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: with that, right? What if would be better? What if

2253
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't blow out his knee in oh Wait? First

2254
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: of all, man, that was a that was a that

2255
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: was wouldn't have made the playoffs? Really do you think

2256
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 1: they were still I'm just going on the team that

2257
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: loses that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean that

2258
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 1: was no that team was loaded, they would they would

2259
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 1: the OA team was loaded on the sevente um. Let's

2260
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: see Rashwan from Georgia. Did any of you guys watch

2261
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: the Shack Mason bucks conference he mentioned how happy is

2262
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: that he's joining a contender. Do you think more guys

2263
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: in the current roster feel like the Patriots aren't contenders

2264
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: or near contending four champions? Paul? You like offensive line

2265
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: press conferences, right, I do think there's probably if you

2266
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: ask them, honestly, they probably don't feel like they're a

2267
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: contender right now. But you know, him saying that doesn't

2268
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: mean that it was a shot at the page. Yeah, yes,

2269
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: that he's going to a team. It's just specific could

2270
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 1: have sent to Cleveland or right right, whatever you're landed,

2271
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna say you're happy to be there, right right.

2272
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: But for that reason, he can honestly say that because

2273
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: they are Yeah, you know, right, I agree. I don't

2274
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 1: think it was a shot at the Patriots. Do you

2275
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: think it's like for all the people that think, you know,

2276
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Bill hates Brady, I never hear anything about them sending

2277
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: Jack Mason to Tampa like that doesn't really support that

2278
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: kind of theory, right, like, why would they want to

2279
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: help Tom Brady. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I went

2280
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: to the wayside. I don't know. All right, that's gonna

2281
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 1: do it. For this addition, I see Eric organizing his many,

2282
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 1: many pieces of portfolio. Um so that's it for this week.

2283
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 1: Who knows what next week will bring, but we know it,

2284
01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:00,080
Speaker 1: we'll bring this show and so we'll see you next Tuesday.

2285
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play,

2286
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, please rate

2287
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us

2288
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 1: high in the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us.

2289
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Be sure to Checkpatriots dot com for more news and

2290
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: more podcasts.