1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Day three to sixty. Anyway, gladuate with us toll free. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and nine for one. Sean, you want 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. So we have 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: the rated Mara Lago and one week from today and 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: I got an early copy of this book. Paul Manafort's 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: book will be released. If you're looking for a first 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: print edition, which I will be a guaranteed massive bestseller. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: It's on Amazon dot com. We'll putting a link on 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com and you can get yours on the 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: day of release. It's called political Prisoner, persecuted, prosecuted but 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: not silenced. In light of everything that happened yesterday, boy, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: you have to wonder Paul Manafort, welcome back to the program, sir, 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sean. It's good to be with you again. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't put the book down because I couldn't believe 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: all that you've been through and that this can happen 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: in the country. I went through a whole series in 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: the last hour of all these examples of you know, 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Joe's quid pro quo, Joe lying about knowing about Hunter's 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: farm business partners, Hunter's laptop, Hillary Clinton, the Alpha Bank, 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: russiall lie the dirty dossier that she paid for the 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: deep state, uh, not verifying uh, the dirty dossier, but 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: saying to a fis the court that it's verified. And 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: spying on a presidential candidate transition team and then later 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: a president, nobody held accountable. But when it came to 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: people like you and Roger Stone and now President Trump 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: pre dawn raids. In the case of you and Stone, 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: guns a blazing no knock warrant, you know, get on 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: the ground, guns pointed in your face. The only thing 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: that Roger had that you didn't have was fake NUCI 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and n cameras capturing at all well in a condo 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: and they get a tough time getting to the fourth floor. 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Otherwise it would would have happened. Let's get to the 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: seriousness of the seriousness of this right off the beginning 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: and talk about your case through the prism of what 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: we all witnessed yesterday. Well, yeah, yeah, my case was 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: centered on trying to get me to give them Donald Trump, 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: which I wouldn't do. And the more I said no, 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: the more they came, you know, wretched it up to pressure, 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, from solitary confinement to being put it first 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: of all being an home confinement and a solitary confinement. 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Uh in making My life prism bringing over thirty charges 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: against me, all of which were in areas that I 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: had previously been been cleared by the government, and in 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: the book I go through all the details. But the 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: thing is, what they showed me was that the justice 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: is not what drives these people. It's getting a notch 47 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: on their belt. And in this case, with their obsession 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. I mean, I wasn't surprised that they 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: were continuing to find new ways to go after January 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: sixth and others. I was surprised to have to bet though, 51 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: that they actually did an adorn raid on Marligo. It's 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: but do you believe as I do, that that was 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: a pretext, that it had nothing to do with the 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Presidential Records Act or the National Archives. You're Sean, You're 55 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: absolutely right. This is this is them being terrified that 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Trump is going to run for again in twenty twenty 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: four and they just fear because they understand one thing 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: about Trump. Yeah, the first time around, Trump as president 59 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: didn't try and even scores, he didn't try to I mean, yes, 60 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: during the campaign in twenty sixteen, locker up was one 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: of the rally cries. But Trump and control of the 62 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: government didn't go after his political opponents. But he learned 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: a lot about how even if you will to have 64 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the White House, the system is still willing to undercut you. 65 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't think as if he goes into office again 66 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five that he will have the same 67 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: attitude about letting the bureaucracy continue to exist as it does. 68 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: When he takes office, he will he will understand now 69 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: the swamp Nissy include clearing up the bureaucracy, not just 70 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: dealing with Washington members of Conscis. I want to focus 71 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: on out and you go into the whole campaign. There's 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot in this book. We're not going to 73 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: get in this half hour, and when we release a 74 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: week from today, we'll have you back. When you release 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: the book. I want I want to focus on one 76 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: very specific thing here. You just said that they wanted 77 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: you to give up Trump. What were they willing to 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: give you if you did quote give up Trump? And 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and and were they telling you specifically what they expected 80 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: in return for you giving up Trump and that? And 81 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: was it implied or said openly that you would get 82 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: your freedom wasn't said openly. Um. The way that Weissman 83 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: played his cards was he would he tried to get 84 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: me to accept pieces of a narrative, not necessarily in 85 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: the order that he wanted, but he was He was 86 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: very clever about trying to trick me and get me 87 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: to talk about Trump. You know, when Trump knew about 88 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: about the July released by WEEKI leaks of the you know, 89 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: of the documents and emails, and he went around and 90 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: about on that to focus on pieces that he could 91 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: then say, Okay, so here's the narrative. And in the 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: book I walked through all the steps of the narrative 93 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: that they were trying to get. But the key understanding 94 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: was we're trying to work with you, Paul, but you 95 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: got you gotta let us know the truth about what happened. 96 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: And the reason I never expected anything to ever come 97 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: out of our conversations with each other was because I 98 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: knew that the truth wasn't what they were looking for 99 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: and they were not going to accept it. The truth 100 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: had to be their narrative, and their narrative wasn't true. 101 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: And any employers at the time, in a couple of 102 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: times were upset with me because I wouldn't get beaten 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: down into where weisson was trying to push me, because 104 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: I knew where it was going to ultimately go if 105 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: I gave on. You know, something that didn't seem like 106 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: it was important in that moment, but when the whole 107 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: narrative got pieced together, could have significance. So let me 108 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: ask you this, how many months did you spend in solitary? 109 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: And I understand that you was. Your health was suffering 110 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: and in numerous ways, including gout, which I understand my 111 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: mom had. It was extremely painful. And I remember one 112 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: instance in which they actually put you in a wheelchair 113 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: and well, dun Or courtroom. Yeah, I was in solitary 114 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: from June when they when I went from the courtroom 115 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: to the through prison unexpectedly until until some time around 116 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: do it of the following year, after my trials were 117 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: all over, and they put me in solitary under the 118 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: under the put roofs of my protection. But you know, Sean, 119 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: when I went into a lauret of prison and I 120 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: was in the general population, no one earth threatened me. 121 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: On the contrary, Trump was a hero in prison because 122 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: he had done past the cares act. You've done what 123 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Democrats say they were going to do but never did 124 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: in helping to lose some of the injustice in the 125 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: prison system. And so being his campaign chairman they looked 126 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: at and then not being a rat, the prisoners looked 127 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: at me in a very positive way. So it was 128 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: clear to me that what I already knew that the 129 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: solitary was meant to break me, not to protect me. 130 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: So in other words, just to be clear, I mean 131 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: you're with listen, prison is not a good place. I 132 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: don't care even if it's a minimal security prison of 133 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: losing your freedom is losing your freedom and your your 134 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: general the acceptance of your fellow prisoners. I mean they 135 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: were nice to you. You got along fine, You had 136 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: good relationships with them. Is that a fair characterization. Yeah, 137 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: and that's a fair characterization. I mean a lot of 138 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: different reasons from different groups. But but yeah, the fact 139 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: that I was Trump's chairman did not put me in 140 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: harm's way in prison. And and you know, not having 141 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: had any expectation of a prison would be like, and 142 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: never having been close to it my whole life, I 143 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't know that going in all the people did people 144 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: try to bring you under their wing and say all right, 145 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: I know you knew here. Let me tell you how 146 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: this works. Yeah, yeah, I did. I had several people 147 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: I go with this in the book. You know, right 148 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: away my first arrival, you know, said come and tell 149 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: me that. You know, here's what you need to know. 150 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: Here's what you need to you know, here's how we 151 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: work here. We'll protect you if you need any protection, 152 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: which I never did. Um, and it was it was 153 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: a very different expectation what I had. But what you 154 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: said a minute ago is totally correct. You know, being 155 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: in prison is not picnic. It's no fun, your loss 156 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: of freedom, They dehumanize you. And I talked about that 157 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: in the book. Uh. You know, and the Bureau of 158 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: Prisons claims to be there. You know. You read what 159 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: they're doing for prisoners. It says everything wanted to see 160 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: in paper, but none of it existing reality. Uh and uh. 161 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: And yet when I tried to help in prison by 162 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: teaching some courses, helping people, helping some of the prisoners 163 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: understand how to adjust get when as they got released, 164 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: I was discouraged by the system from doing that. Even 165 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: so let's talk about what. So you get to a 166 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: point where okay, you're given your last opportunity. They're they're 167 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: basically saying, fine, if if you're not going to cooperate 168 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: with us, if you're not going to tell us what 169 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: we want to hear, now they're implying to you what 170 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: they expect to hear from correct And if you say this, 171 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: it's implied that you're going to be treated much differently. Absolutely, 172 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: And then when I didn't still give in, they they 173 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: brought up five charges where they said I was lying 174 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: to them, uh, and that obstructing justice by lying to them. 175 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: And but at the end that was a game too, 176 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: because they never really pressed they claimed those land they 177 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: said they could bring charges, They brought up the lives, 178 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: they presented it in court, but they didn't indict me 179 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: on them. The reason they didn't indict me on them 180 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: is because they charges that they were claiming I was lying. 181 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't lying, and there was no evidence that they 182 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: could prove I was lying. They just didn't get what 183 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: they wanted from me. And yet they needed the judge 184 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: in this case, the judge Berman Jackson, who could have 185 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: been sitting at the prosecution's bench. You know she uh, 186 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: she basically just gabbled to anything they wanted, you know, 187 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: and made decisions than anything he wanted, and they wanted 188 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: her to be even more angry with me as as 189 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: as being abstructionist and being a liar and being a 190 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: bad person, which was part of Weisman's strategy from the 191 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: very beginning. I mean what Weisman, by the way, was 192 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: Mueller's pitball, as the New York Times described them. Yeah, 193 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: and when I was indicted, first of all, they gave 194 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: me a ten million dollars bond, which was absurd. I mean, 195 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, John Gotti didn't have a ten million dollars bond. 196 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: But then they threw a gag order roupy, so I 197 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: couldn't speak on in my case or anything in the 198 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: in the media accusing me of anything for the whole time. 199 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: And then of course they leaked everything out. And as 200 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: they were leaking everything out, you know, they were convicting 201 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: me in the court of public opinion, which then was 202 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: going to be the basis for my jury selection in 203 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: the Washington, DC area, which is the capital of anti Trumpism. 204 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: So they knew what they were doing all law, and 205 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: that was the game they played in trying to me 206 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: to give them what I wouldn't do. You're describing a 207 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: system that has corrupt and broken and sort of like 208 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: Sammy the Bull in nineteen twenty murders whatever it happened 209 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: to be. Oh, we'll set you free if you testify 210 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: against John Gotti because we want him more than you. 211 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: And to me, if you're offering somebody something of great 212 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: value like their freedom, a lot of people in your case, 213 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: no would say anything you wanted, right, And I think 214 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: that's what they're doing with Trump as well. I mean 215 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: you read the tactics they applied to me, and then 216 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: just observe what they've been doing with Trump just since 217 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: he left office. It's the same thing. If Donald Trump 218 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: announced today I'm not running in twenty twenty four, leave 219 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: me alone. They probably would leave them alone, wouldn't they. Well, yes, 220 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: I think they maybe maybe not. They hate them that much. 221 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: People who would just to be just wanting his blood. 222 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: I mean they're obsessed with it. That's you know. I've 223 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: gone to the last year, I've gone around speaking a 224 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: different places, and uh, there's two reactions I get. I 225 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: mean most of it is extremely positive. I mean, people 226 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: love Donald Trump and the fact that I was there 227 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. People who have given me some of 228 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: that that love. But the people who hate Trump and 229 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: some of my friends are in this group, my old friends. Uh, 230 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: they don't want any to do it anymore. Yeah, right, stay, 231 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: stay right there. Paul Manaforts with us. His new book 232 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: will be out in a week and get a first 233 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: print edition copy today Amazon dot com, h and Hannity 234 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: dot com. It's called political Prisoner, Persecuted, Prosecuted but not Silenced. 235 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: Pretty incredible timing, uh, in light of what happened yesterday. 236 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: Right as we continue along, Paul manafort us with us, 237 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into more of this with Paul tonight 238 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: on Hannity. His book is out one week from today 239 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: and can get a first edition first print copy edition 240 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: at Amazon dot com. We have a link on Hannity 241 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: dot com. It's called Political Prisoner, Persecuted, Prosecuted but not Silenced. Um, 242 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's so much in here, and you 243 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: talk about obviously a lot of what this case is 244 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: all about, but it's what is America becoming? And only 245 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I know, I hate to do this to you, but 246 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: we're only have a short segment. What do you see 247 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: between the way Republicans conservatives are treated in the justice 248 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: system versus Democrats, and how dangerous do you view this? 249 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: And I'll ask you more about it tonight. It's a 250 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: very dangerous strength. I mean to say that we have 251 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: a two tier system of justice is an understatement and 252 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: it's it's so obvious. I mean, if you look at 253 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: what they did with Flynn, they went up to Flynn. 254 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm a Logan Act which was in obscure law pass 255 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: in seventeen ninety eight where no one was prosecuted. Well ever, right, 256 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: John Kerry during the Trump's presidency was in Ron telling 257 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: the mool I've got to pay attention to Trump's Middle 258 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: East policy. That was what was really violating the Logan Act, 259 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: not what Michael Foot was doing as the National Security 260 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Advisors designated. You look at me with my Fara case. 261 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean I did. I had settled the fair issue 262 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: with Farah, and they dragged it up out of moth 263 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: balls to get you anyway. The book, I couldn't put 264 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: it down. Political prisoner, persecuted, prosecuted, not silenced. Paul Manafort, 265 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: while I'm more with Paul Tonight on Hannity nine Eastern 266 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: on the Fox News Channel, also the Great One Mark 267 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Levin tonight and We'll be joined by Dan Bongino, Senator 268 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Mark or Rubio, Senator Tim Scott much more at twenty 269 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: five to the top of the hour, eight hundred and 270 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: nine pot one Sean, if you want to be a 271 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: part of the program, you might recall just thenews dot 272 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: com uh Senior editor in chief and CEO, John Solomon 273 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: um breaking a lot of news regarding Senator Chuck Grassley 274 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: of Iowa, and Chuck Grassley of course discovered that apparently 275 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: there are whistleblowers within the Department of Justice the FBI 276 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: that have come forward to tell a story about what 277 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: they know to be true about Hunter Biden and how 278 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is being protected within the FBI, and information 279 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: that would otherwise be pretty damning to anybody else is 280 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: being spun into you conspiracy theories like oh, this has 281 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: to be Russian disinformation, just like the whole laptop from Hell. 282 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: And then Christopher Ray was on the hot seat trying 283 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: to answer questions until he had a race off on 284 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: a government jet that you pay for it, I guess 285 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: to go to vacation or wherever the hully was going, 286 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: knowing full well what was coming, and had no comments 287 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: at all whatsoever. Now remember John Paul mack Isaac that 288 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: he was the laptop repair guy that Hunter Biden brought 289 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: his laptops too. Remember, he was doing the repair work 290 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: when he noticed things that were of a such a 291 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: disturbing nature that he contacted the FBI and he gave 292 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: the FBI copies of zero experience Hunter's laptop. And what 293 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: is Christopher Ray who's being questioned about it last week? 294 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: What has he ever done about it? Nothing? Then I 295 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: go back to points that I've been making in the 296 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: three years. John Solomon was a big part of this 297 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: huge ensemble cast that we put together. There weren't really 298 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: many of us that were digging deep into this Russia 299 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion, conspiracy theory and hoax. John broke a 300 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: lot of stories in regards to this issue. And in fact, 301 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: how Hillary Clinton, you know, not only deleted thirty three 302 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: thousand emails and had a separate email server, and we 303 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: found out what the term bleach bit meant. I don't 304 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: think anybody had known that prior to that. And then 305 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: we had hammers and devices and simcards missing. But then 306 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: also you had two separate attempts to tie Donald Trump 307 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: to Russia. In the case of you know this Susman 308 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: guy and Alpha Bank and Hillary Clinton and this narrative 309 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: that Trump towers were tied to this Russian banking conglomerate 310 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: that all turned out to be false. And then we 311 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: learned about the money that Hillary funneled through a law 312 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: firm Perkins Cooeye that hired Fusion GPS, that hired Christopher Steele, 313 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: and they come up with a series of documents that 314 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: then become known as the Russian Dossier, And the Russian 315 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Dossier then becomes as to quote the Great Andrew McCabe, 316 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: Deputy FBI Director. Without the dossier, there wouldn't be no 317 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: FISA warrants on the top of a FISER warrant, says Verified. 318 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: And they used Hillary's bought and paid for Russian disinformation 319 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: as the bulk of information to obtain FISA warrants to 320 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: spy not only on Carter Page, who did not deserve it, 321 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: we find out later was actually a hero. He'd worked 322 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: with the CIA for years undercover, risking his life, but 323 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: then also to have a backdoor because of his association 324 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and his campaign to all things Trump World, 325 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: and that meant the Trump campaign transition team and then 326 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: later presidency. I mean, all of this we've gone over 327 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: in great detail. And I said at the time, and 328 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: I'll keep saying it, that if we don't get to 329 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: the bottom of this corruption and abusive power of this 330 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: deep state with their quote Peter Struck insurance policy, it's 331 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: going to happen again. We've not been given any rational, 332 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: reasonable explanation at all whatsoever. But why this raid of 333 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's home took place last night? Now, I did 334 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: get a hold of a conversation with Gary Stern, who 335 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: is at the National Archives, a general counsel there about 336 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: inaccurate reports media reports that they had rated Marlago. Anyway, 337 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: They put out the following statement on February eighth of 338 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: this year. Quote. Throughout the course of the last year, 339 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Narrow of the Records in National Archives Association obtained the 340 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: cooperation of Trump representatives to locate presidential records that had 341 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: not been transferred to the National Archives at the end 342 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration. When a representative informed NAIRA in 343 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: December of twenty twenty one, they had located some of 344 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: the records, and they arranged for them to be secretly 345 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: transported to Washington. They did not visit. They did not 346 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: raid Marlago property. And by the way, it's even available 347 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: on their website if you want to take a look 348 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: at it. Anyway, John Solomon had broken a lot of 349 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: these stories, and one recent interview he did was former 350 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: Acting Director of National Intelligence Rick Rennell and his warning 351 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: that the FBI is facing a real crisis of partisan 352 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: tampering with investigations, and that he urged when he was 353 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence then President Donald Trump to 354 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: fired Director Ray back in twenty twenty when these concerns 355 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: first became obvious. Quote, I told President Trump to get 356 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: rid of them, anyway, John Solomon joins us. Now, I 357 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: mean the hope when Comey was replaced would be that 358 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: Ray would clean up the FBI. Yeah, that was a hope. 359 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: And I think what we've seen is we've seen some 360 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: rule changes, right, We've seen some flashy announcement that we're 361 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: going to do things differently. But we continue to see 362 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: the watchdogs of the FBI, like Senator Chuck Grassi, like 363 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 1: the Justice Department Inspector General telling us listen, there are 364 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: still problems with fist A warrants. There's still submitting unsupported 365 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: fist A warrants, and just last week, Senator Grassy revealed 366 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: to us that there are multiple FBI whistle bars. That's 367 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: say that the FBI, particularly in its Washington Field office, 368 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: which handles a lot of the sensitive political cases in America, 369 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: that it is rife with political bias. An assistant agent 370 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: in charge there was criticizing Donald Trump and social media 371 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: in an investigation of Trump was opened without merit, and 372 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: a investigation of Hunter Biden was shut down on the 373 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: false claim that legitimate evidence was disinformation that happened a 374 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: week before that same FBI office was involved in this 375 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: raid at Marlago. The concern that the FBI is politically biased, 376 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: something that goes back to the Russia coclusion case, has 377 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: not been resolved. People haven't been held to account, and 378 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: now millions of Americans have graver doubts about the FBI 379 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: than they've ever had before after this raid. Let's go 380 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: through this because I think the pretense, the pretext for this, well, First, 381 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: let me go back a little. Let me play Rick Grannell, 382 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: because you actually did an interview with him, and I 383 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: want to play your interview with Rick Grannell and let 384 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: people hear it in their own in his own voice. 385 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: The FBI agents that had their name on the redaction 386 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: only because their bosses were too wimpy and last courage 387 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: to put their own name on it because it was 388 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: their decision. And I've had FBI agents and this occurred 389 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: on Chris Raise robs right, this is when Chris Raising charged. Yeah, 390 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: of course, I told President Trump we got to get 391 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: rid of him. He was terrible. First of all, he 392 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: didn't understand what was happening. He was so aloof to 393 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: what was happening down below and had just a knee 394 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: jerk reaction to everything just to protect the status quo. 395 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a creature of the FBI and he 396 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: views everything as a pr exercise. Don't criticize the FBI, 397 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: don't talk about any failures at the FBI, because he 398 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: loves the brand and it was a brand exercise. And 399 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: I would say to him and others, you know, the 400 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: American public, they don't trust you, and you are going 401 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: to improve the credibility of your organization. If you admit mistakes, 402 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: then people will see that you're not perfect. They don't 403 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: think you're perfect. Don't fall down that trap that everybody 404 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: thinks everything that the FBI does is right and is 405 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: implemented perfectly. Do you believe that the pretext of this 406 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: being about the Presidential Records Act and the Archives National Archives? 407 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: Do you believe that because I do not listen. I 408 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, there has been 409 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: a dispute going on about records that the President may 410 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: have accidentally taken with him tomorrow. Lago, there was cooperation 411 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: going on. I think there's going to be some complexity 412 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: in that cooperation. We're going to learn about in the 413 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: next couple of days. Maybe some negotiating and horse trading 414 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: going on, and at some point the FBI became concerned 415 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: and decided that they were going to make a claim 416 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: to a judge that they had to act quickly in 417 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: raid the compound. I think that's what we're going to learn. 418 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: This is not how Hillary Clinton was treated. Went back 419 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: in seven years ago this month, in August of twenty fifteen, 420 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: when I broke the story, we learned that Hillary Clinton 421 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: didn't even have to turn over her Classify emails right away. 422 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: They were allowed to be kept on the thumb drive, 423 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: and her lawyer, David Kendall, was allowed to keep him 424 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: in a safe in his office for a long time. 425 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: And we know the rest of that tortured story, how 426 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: she walked away without any punishment despite the FBI believing 427 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: that she had been careless or reckless. But the FBI 428 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: action may turn up, maybe they'll be evidence to warrant it, 429 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: maybe there won't be. But here's the problem, because they 430 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: haven't resolved these earlier issues. Like Rick just talked about 431 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Invassador Grennell. What did he say he was allied to 432 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: FBI Brass said, Hey, the frontline agents don't want it 433 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: to cost of buy these documents he goes and interviews. 434 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: The agents are like, no, we're being ordered to say that. 435 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: That's not what we're saying. Those sort of episodes, which 436 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: have been repeated dozens of times in the last five 437 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: years you and I've been able to report on them, 438 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: they leave the stench of politics and bias in political 439 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: manipulation investigations, and until that stench is removed, we're not 440 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: going to trust things, even when they're legitimate by the FBI. 441 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: I think that is a big problem for the FBI. 442 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Quick Break more with the editor in chief adjustaews dot 443 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: com eight for one Sean. If you want to be 444 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: a part of the program, we'll check in with the 445 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: former Speaker of the House, New Cambridge at the top 446 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: of the hour, I'm more editor in chief justinews dot com. 447 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: John Solomon is with us, though, you think the greater 448 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: likelihood is that this is a phishing expedition. And for example, 449 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: and I spoke to Eric Trump last night, and I 450 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: talked to other people, other sources last night, and they 451 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: all told me the same thing, that there was there 452 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: was a cooperation, by the way, as being confirmed by 453 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: the National Archives representatives on their own website, you can 454 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: find it. It seems to me that this has got 455 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: to be deeper than what they're saying that this is, 456 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: and they're not really saying much at all. We're not 457 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: hearing from Merrick Garland, we're not hearing from Director Ray, 458 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: and we have to believe that both of them signed 459 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: off on a rate of a former president's personal residence. 460 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: So what are they really looking for? Is a January 461 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: sixth related what could it possibly be? We read you 462 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: something that a source directly involved in this offers, who 463 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: knows exactly what happened at Marlago yesterday? What this person 464 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: said to me about what goes on in a raid 465 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: like this quote, agents have latitude to seize things that 466 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: match the description of items being sought in the warrant 467 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: then later turned out to be relevant to other cases. 468 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: People involved in this are already thinking that, hey, they 469 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: might have scooped up something that actually the description, like 470 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: a box of documents, and they've taken it with them, 471 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: and they might be able to find evidence that's relevant 472 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: to another case. Now that Washington Field office, which was 473 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: involved in this rate is also the one looking at 474 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: January six. These are the dangers of wide sweeping raids 475 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: like this, which is they scoop up things and they 476 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: might actually turn into a fishing expedition later on, even 477 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: if that's not their intention. That's why people like Alan Dershowitz, 478 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: like Jonathan Turley, who are by the way, Democrat liberal lawyers, 479 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: have grave concerns about what the FBI did yesterday. And 480 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: I think that phishing expedition is one of those things 481 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: we're going to doubt until we get better clarity, better 482 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: transparency from the FBI why they took this extraordinary action. 483 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Trafalgar came up with a poll questioned one. There are 484 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: two tiers of justice, one set of laws for politicians 485 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC insiders versus one set of laws for 486 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: everyday American. Seventy nine point three percent of Americans agree 487 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: with that. Another question, there's one system of justice with 488 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: laws applied to all Americans equally. Only eleven percent of 489 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: people agree with that statement. And I've been saying it 490 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: for a long time. John and I think that all 491 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: work together, and we work together for years on the 492 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion narrative, and we've been been dated, improven right, 493 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: again and again and again when everybody else was wrong. 494 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I think Americans have every reason to believe that that 495 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: is the problem. And if the FBI doesn't resolve this problem, 496 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: regardless who was in charge in the future, it is 497 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: going to eat at the fabric of this country because 498 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: we've always believed, Hey, there's politics, there's sports, we play 499 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: roff and tumble, but when it comes to the law, 500 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: we're always been blind. Justice has been blind, and people 501 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: get prosecuted only because of evidence. The Trump years showed 502 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: us that you could have fake evidence or no evidence 503 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: at all and be pursued for months in the years. 504 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: Think of of all the documents I saw and were 505 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: able to talk to you about on your show over 506 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: the years, this one document, more than any other troubles me. 507 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: The most agent, William Barnett from the Washington Field office 508 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: of the FBI worked on the Russian collusion case, was 509 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: the man assigned to Mike Flynn. He knew that Mike 510 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Flinn's investigation was opened without a proper predicate. He knew 511 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: there was no evidence to sustain anything that the FBI 512 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: is going to try to do. For months, he recommended 513 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: it'd be shut down, and then he watched the seventh 514 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: floor reopen it without any cause, without any and he 515 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: said to the Justice Department investigators, you know what this was. 516 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: This was like a bad game of clue. These guys 517 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: were willing to put any two people in a room 518 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: and say, oh, a crime must have committed to the 519 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: absence of any evidence. That's what a career FBI agent 520 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: witnessed his own agency doing, and he decried it. We 521 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: haven't solved that mentality in the FBI. The fact that 522 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: just last week new whistlers came out to tell us 523 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: that the FBI still has this problem. And until we do, 524 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: most Americans are going to continue to weigh in that 525 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: way in the poll, and we're going to doubt political 526 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: actions in the future. That's not good. For our country, 527 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: all right, John Solomon, Editor in chief, just thenews dot com. 528 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Great reporting as always, and we'll be check it in 529 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: the next days and weeks to see where this eventually 530 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: falls out. We appreciate you being will us. Thanks Sean 531 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: quick break right back