WEBVTT - J. Que 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:10.160 R and B money, Honey, we are thanks take Valanti. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:16.080 We are the authority on all things R and B. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:18.720 Ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.079 Mon name is Tank Valentine and this is the Army 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:27.720 Money Podcast, the authority on all things R and B. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.720 Ah. There are men. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.200 There are men who are writers. There are men who 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:43.520 deliver melody. All of it there there. But there's a 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.919 certain type of man. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.320 They produce that vocal too. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:53.720 They produced that vocal, that vocal, not the vocal that 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:59.160 are the or the This particular kind of man is 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:04.520 a scientist. He weaves into the intricacies technician of a 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.600 record technician and takes a record from here to here. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:12.480 He also has a beer, make some. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:16.479 Beer. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:26.160 The buildings a picture rally fingers. That's before your time. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.080 It might have been before my time because I don't 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.679 know what we're talking about. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.440 The baseball pictures with this here. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.160 He really feel like I can't grow ship bro. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:34.640 Bro. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.440 He I already knew I couldn't. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.320 He keeps going. He's done. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.560 First of all, I want to say this, thank you 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.800 for coming right your family, But we never want to 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.039 take advantage of that. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.960 You know what I'm saying. We never want to take 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:49.400 light of that. We know you're busy man. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.920 We know you're a busy man. You know you're you're 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.160 here in Korea. You hear me in Korea man, you know, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.760 as the original Black Man would say, even over there Koree. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.280 Bleeding from the inside. Yes, I know, Jacob. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.320 If you the grap crap prap that thing for me, 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.080 this is a special day on the R and B 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:10.920 Money Podcast. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:16.760 You are a first. You are a first with this particular. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:17.400 I don't even know what's going on. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.960 You lied to me, you are half. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:32.280 Yeah, Okay, happy birday, che. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:45.040 Happy bad hay bad cheez. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.000 Come on, man, fro. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:52.880 Lied to me. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.120 You know it's gonna come out twelve months from now. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.880 Actual sure birthday, brother, and I can't believe you're here 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:08.799 on your birthday thinking I can just all right there. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:09.959 I just want you to I just wanted to be 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.519 part of you in this part. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.359 You know what I'm saying, So people know I appreciate it, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.680 so they can see the happy birthday you want have birthday? 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.920 Which one for him, however, he wants to receive. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.679 You are. You are an awesome brother, one of the 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:32.680 coolest human beings ever. Since day one, your family day one. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.720 We go all the way back to before all of 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:36.920 the ship right. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.120 As you. Yeah, as you are the nicest guy ever. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.880 You'd be smoking when you want to be. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.520 Yes, we don't take his kind we can't take his 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.240 kindness the weakness, because there's no weakness in this young man. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.680 Okay, you got in his garage, we've worked out together. Okay, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:57.600 all right, that. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.000 Strong I do anywhere. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.760 But in any event, I want to start off with 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:08.400 the smoke. JQ. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.600 You're so nice. I want to get to the smoke 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:21.760 who rocked. Yeah for us, sure, Raymond who I want 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:22.160 to know? 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:23.120 Now? 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.800 We will do the pod the way we know what 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:26.200 we're doing. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:27.839 After we talked. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:33.120 About this, that's how we started. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.039 I remember everyone, we're moving with that. Jordan piel. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:42.680 Is. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:49.920 I've heard so many iterations of the story. It's wild 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.480 because I actually just not just maybe a year ago, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:05:02.440 had this conversation in studio. I'm in the studio with 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.360 USh like be Cox called me ushers. Okay, yeah, okay, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.320 he don't. He doesn't need the earth. Just to point 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.920 that out to you, I get a call from b 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:19.200 Cox and he's like, Yo, you know me jd uh felly, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.920 we're up Keith, we're up here working with Usher. You 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:24.880 should fall through. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:26.720 And I was like, oh yeah, and this is the 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:27.760 this is recent. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.480 Yes, And I was like, oh yeah, easy, easy, I 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:35.000 pull up. I pull up, and you know, it's amazing 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.840 seeing everybody and j D and I you know, know 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.600 each other, but we've never worked together, you know. So 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:51.640 I'm in the room and the energy doesn't feel like 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.880 I'm supposed to be in the room writing and Brian's like, no, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:06:00.360 just jump in wherever, and I'm like okay. So, you know, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.960 first first day, it's a little weird, but I tell 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.200 Brian it's cool, like I'll come back because I'm just 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.560 trying to hang out with you really, because he don't 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.280 be here all the time. So I pull up the 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:17.400 second day and we're talking and me, KP and Usher 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:24.000 are outside outside sitting on the stairs, just chopping it up, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:30.320 and Keith sticks his head out of the room and 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.400 just goes, hey, JQ. I was like, what's going on, bro? 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:37.320 He said, you wrote on yeah, didn't you? And I 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.760 said what And he said, nigga, I know, but you did, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.920 didn't you? And I was like yes. Then he went 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.960 back in the room. Then he popped out again and 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.720 he's like, what did you write exactly? And I said 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.839 I don't. I said, I don't understand the question. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:56.279 What do you mean? 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.320 He said, what did you write? I said, I wrote 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.520 half of it and he said okay, and he popped 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.160 back in the room and then KP's looking at me 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.760 like this, and I was like, I don't know. And 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.720 then he comes out of the room and JD comes 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.440 out of the room and I'm like, what's going on? 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.840 And he was like, do me a favorite man, Just 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.360 tell JD what you just told me. And I was like, well, yeah, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.880 like Sean and I wrote it together. And he was 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.600 like for real, for real and I was like yeah, absolutely. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.680 Now let me say this. Over time, I don't know, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:39.640 maybe people's recollection of what the story is changes. And 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.040 as you guys know, when you have management, you know, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.920 a team, it's their job to make you larger than life. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.440 So I expect niggas to tell whatever story that you 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:58.320 know it's going to help push the machine forward. But 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.120 they tell me that the story story that they've heard 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:08.920 is that I was given some publishing for engineering. Like 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.120 they were just glad that I said, and I engineered 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.240 the demo, so they threw me some publishing. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:18.200 I was like. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.640 Exactly, and I was like, no, that's not what's happened. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.640 What happened. So we started explaining it, and I tell, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:29.160 you know, the entire story of how the matter of fact, 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.360 matter of fact, let me tell the story, and you know, 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:42.240 shout out to Sean for calling me. Like Sean and 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.960 I were both signed to LA Read, both signed a hit. Yeah, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:52.040 and shake is really the one that was like, Yo, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.520 you know, I think you guys. He was like, I 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.240 think you guys. Yeah, Shakier, he was like, I think 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.120 you know, you guys are the two writers that I 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.280 have here that really have a chance at really stepping 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.400 it up and taking it to the next level. So 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.800 it was like excited, let's go. So he's like, I'm 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.480 I'm thinking, if you guys can deliver me a hit 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.319 for Usher that I can make sure it's hurd. I 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.559 can't promise anything, but I can make sure that that 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.880 it gets hurt. So we're like, cool, cool, Cool, let's 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.480 let's get to it. And it's Sean that actually pulls 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:34.680 out some tracks from Little John. Now for me, personally, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.040 I go way back with Little John, so I'm far 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:56.040 I go back to ninety five maybe ninety. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.600 Five with. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:04.040 With Little John, my first the first professional recording, first 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.839 record that I was ever part of. It was a 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.800 song that went viral maybe seven years ago Again. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.320 And Night I Think of You. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.920 So yeah, out of high school. This is the first 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.920 record that I'm ever part of in Little John and 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.720 Are that project, And that's that's where I met John 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.840 and we went on to do some other stuff together. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:36.559 But when Sean plays the John track, I'm amped because 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.360 I fucking love Little John. Yeah, And at the time, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.680 Little John was maybe one of my favorite producers moving 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.800 definitely one of favorites moving around Atlanta. So Seawan is like, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.360 I think we should write to this. So we're like, hell, yeah, 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:51.719 let's do it. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:52.160 Let's do it. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.280 So he mess around, puts in the track, track starts playing. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.240 We get hype as hell, were about to write for 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.480 us Nigga, were about to kill as we write for Usha. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.800 After about two minutes, were just looking at each other going, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.480 what do you what do you write to? This ain't nobody? 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.640 So we look at it for a second. I say, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.440 hold on one second. I run out to the car, 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.800 I come back in with the CD, put it in 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.319 and it's if you don't give a damn will give 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:19.720 a fuck. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:19.960 Hey. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.800 It was my favorite song ever at the time. So 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.080 we listened to that ship and we're just we both amp. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:31.160 I curse a lot, so I apologize Mama, my kids. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.720 When you see this go crazy, I'm gonna go crazy. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.760 So we're hype as fucking now. We're like, yeah, yeah, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:38.199 let's do it. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:38.760 Let's do it. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.960 If it ain't just hurt, if it ain't just scronking, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.520 if we ain't just hurt, then we don't even need 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.200 to do it. So we amped, We amped, and then 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:51.439 we just confused again and about what to do, and 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.559 Sean's like, play that ship one more time. So we 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.760 play it and it goes off, and it's like it's 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.319 got to be that hype or there's no point to 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.640 a John track, So hit play again. That shit comes 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:12.719 on and Sean goes yeah, and I go and he 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.760 looks at me and we're like, Nikka, we should call 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:20.160 this ship. Yeah, we should call this Yeah. So now 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.880 we I have been we're like, all right, what is 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.440 this going to be about? What is gonna be about? 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.720 And I got the call earlier to write for USh 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:33.199 because I had done this record with Marcus Houston. I 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:39.280 co wrote it with Neo. What's your Name? If I 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:44.120 wanted that girl I would be with. So La liked 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.640 the way that record felt, and because Usher had come 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.880 off that you remind me that's what they had asked 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.440 me to write before, and Nigga, I just fell short, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.959 like it's it's hard for me to copy. I'm not 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.240 really really good at that. So we sit down and 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.360 you know, back this story. We sit down and we're like, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:08.640 all right, well, let's just write what we want to write, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.440 what we think being Usher is like. And Shake had 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.480 played us before we got started. He played US Caught Up, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:21.400 he played US Confessions, he played US Superstar, and he 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:27.840 played US burn And we're sitting there and he's like, well, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.280 you know what, what do these records have in common? 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.200 And I'm looking at I'm like, they're all very visual. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.000 So we knew it needed to be visual. So we're like, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:44.160 you know, let's make it. Let's make it that. Let's 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.959 talk about what we think, you know, being Usher is. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:50.959 It's got to be in the club because of the 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.280 way the record is. So we'd sit down and start writing, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:01.160 and Sean hops in the booth and Sean is melodically gifted. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:06.360 Nig like, he's different. He's different. So he's in the 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:12.120 booth and he's I'm like and then he keeps going, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.480 but it doesn't stop. So at a point I'm like, hey, bro, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:22.720 that's it's too much, Like it's too much, and he's like, Nigga, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.240 I'm telling you this is what hot. And I'm like, 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:25.840 I get it, but it's too much. He's like, well 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:26.440 what do you hear? 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.240 So I sing and my. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.360 Ship is slower and he's like, well, that ship's boring. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:37.160 And back then I had a way bigger ego, Like 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.880 my personality is still kind of big, but my ego, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.320 like nigger, I thought I was the best, and you 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.920 better think I'm the best. So when Shawn's got a 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.480 big personality as well, so we argue, you know, for 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.920 a bid, we just screaming at each other and then 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.480 we kind of slow down and we just talking with like, look, bro, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.080 we both because neither one of us had a record 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:05.240 that it changed our lives. So we sat and we 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.480 talked and we're like, look, they're really giving us an 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:12.240 opportunity to change shit for our families. Like, bro, we 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:17.360 gotta get past this. And figure it out. So he's like, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.080 I really just think that this ship that I'm doing 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.720 is the new shit. It's it. And I'm like, nigga, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.400 I agree, you just do it for too long, like 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.080 people have to remember it, they need something to hold 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:34.640 on to. So he does this and he's like, well, 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:35.240 what do you hear? 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.800 And I'm like, da da da da da da da 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.280 da da da da da. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:43.320 Oh. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.760 And he's like all right, I fuck with that. So 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.760 we do all of that shit, end up writing the 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.760 whole thing, write the verses, write the chorus, sing that 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:58.240 bitch down, you know, hype the ship. We like, we 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:02.320 listened through it, write the second verse. Then we're like, well, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:03.880 what do we do for a bridge, because at the 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.240 time US was super musical, so we're like, we don't 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.320 know if John's could have put a change in it, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.240 if he's gonna do whatever. So we're like, well, let's 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.640 just do a bridge with John. So our bridge was 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:19.320 yay yale yale yal yeah usher yeah yah yeah, And 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.280 we're like, all right, that'll be the bridge for right now. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.800 So we listened to the Shit Down again all the 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.200 way and it comes out of the second verse into 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:32.640 the second hook yah ya ya yeah, and we're like, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.000 oh my god, nigga, that has to happen every time. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.040 So we mess around and fly that to where it 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.280 needs to be and we're sitting in the room and 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:47.560 we're listening to it, bro, and I remember Polo comes 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.280 busting in the room, him and and Bubba Sparks. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:54.120 That's great. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.640 Actually went to college with Sparks. Yeah. So he comes 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:04.359 in and and he's like, what's this and we're like, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.240 YOA said shot, we just did for us here and 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.120 there be known. He was like, it's incredible, it's gonna 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.320 be It's gonna be the biggest record of his life. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.600 Y'all just say that this is gonna be it. It's 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.480 gonna be the biggest working of his life. And we 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.840 both like yeah, cool. But we know that if Polo 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:28.400 likes it, we might be onto something. So we're like, yo, okay, 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.760 here's the thing. Great musical, yeah, bro, genius. So we're like, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.000 don't play it. We tell the engineer don't play it 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:36.440 for sake. We know he's gonna want to hear it 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.960 in the morning. We want to be here when you 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.600 play it. And he's like, absolutely, we won't play anything. Nigga. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.600 I get woken up by a car, I get it 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.520 hooking up by a call from Shakir. It's like, yo, 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.600 listen to the record, get down to the studio, BRO 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.359 want you and shout down here and he talk to you, 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.480 get down here. So Sean and I get to the 0:17:55.560 --> 0:18:00.720 studio and Shake is like, I think this hook is amazing. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.080 I don't think La is gonna like these verses. You 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.960 guys need to rewrite the verses right quick. And Sean 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.800 and I kind of look at each other and we're 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:14.200 like no, and you know, Shake, yeah, he's like no, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.680 We're like nah, Bro, we rock with it the way 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:24.399 it is. So he's like, okay, okay, cool, and he 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:30.520 sends the record bro, and we hear back. Actually, I 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.440 think Shawn's in New York working on something else. I'm 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:40.639 with Tricky working on some Backstreet board stuff. And I 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.000 get a call from Sean who said he sat and 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.720 talked to La and La told him that he really 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.080 liked the song, but he actually wasn't crazy about the hook. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.840 He's like he felt like Sean's exact words is. He said, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:19:00.320 La said the song was like bad sex. He was 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.240 like bad sex. He was like yeah, the verses you 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.840 get me all hyped up, you get me right there, 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:10.159 but then your hook, it don't really delivered. And the 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.119 hook that we had at the time was like, I 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.240 don't remember the hook that's that's on the actual album, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.639 but the hook that we did came out, Yeah, I 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.160 don't remember exactly how that hook goes, but yeah, all 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.280 the melodies are the same. So we were like it 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.720 was like, uh, yeah, yeah. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.959 Shout it, get down low if you think you're ready. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.680 Yeah yeah, I could turn you out baby if you 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.879 let me. Yeah yeah, I want to see if you 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.960 could back up what you told me. Yeah, yeah, shout it, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.000 get down low if you think you're ready. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.400 And then LA was like the story of the verses, 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.879 you got me that hook, don't go nowhere, you know. 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.560 And it's one of the pluses of being signed to 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.840 an amazing rite. He was able to see that, like 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.520 he it was never enough for him that it felt good, 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.119 like you guys are onto something. Make it better. So 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.639 we get in and Sean gives me that call and 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.080 I tell Trick I gotta go. I head back to 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.800 the apartment. Sean hits to the studio in New York. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.439 We're on like speakerphone, and we write like five more 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:33.360 hooks and he's not sure which one to pick. I'm 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.960 not sure which one to pick, So I go and 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.479 I sing them all for viv like I sing all 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:49.800 the courses Vivian my wife, because viv Is. Viv Is everything, bro, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:21:00.800 real fast is the reason, Like viv Is is the reason. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.359 It doesn't matter what we're talking about. Vivis the reason. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.719 So we sing viv the hooks and when I get 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.200 to the one, she was all up on me screaming yeah, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:16.680 viv Is like, oh my god, USh is fucking his 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:21.399 girl's best friend. Now, when we wrote it, we literally 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.920 just meant she was in the club dance with that nigga, 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.560 screaming yeah, yeah yeah. And when she says he's fucking 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.879 his best friend, I was like, that's exactly what you do. 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.879 And I run back upstairs and I call Sean and 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:36.720 I'm going, this is the one. We gotta do this 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.960 one right here, and he's like you shure yes, because 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.080 this is a story I'm telling you. So Sean's like, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.159 fuck it. So he goes and sings it. Plays that 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.040 shit for La. La is like cool, let's play it 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.880 for everybody else. Fun part is and our team didn't 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:56.200 like the song, Like nobody really wanted Bro to have 0:21:56.359 --> 0:22:00.320 the song. You know, even after talking to us KP. 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.399 USh didn't really like the song. He was like, on 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.320 first listen, I didn't understand. 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.280 It, and it doesn't it doesn't fit. 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.520 It doesn't no album at all at all. 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.280 And it was the the album. The album was actually done. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:19.560 Burne was the first single the video was and I 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.360 was like, this is out of here here the ship 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.639 was done and done, and we showed up yeah record 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.840 and we wrote we wrote it shout out to KP. 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.520 KP is really one of the people that got USh 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.520 to cut the record because he told us because US 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.359 was really unsure of it, and LA wasn't crazy about it, 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.760 and I was good, Like I understood LA's reasoning, you 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:52.720 know what I mean. L A's whole thing was USh 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:57.080 has never really had up until that point, someone standing 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:01.680 next to him. He was like, that's by does We 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.480 never put anybody next to him. It's never Usher and 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:08.200 someone else. So he's the star. So I don't know 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:12.680 if I want to start that with Little John like 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:18.119 and KP's whole thing was listen, I don't know all 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.840 I know is that ship feel like helly Atlanta? I 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:25.240 fucked with it, like like cut it an old thing, nigga. 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:26.920 If you don't like it, we don't keep it. But 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:28.840 there's no problem with putting your voice on it. 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:29.359 Just sing it. 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:30.240 Let's see what happens. 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.280 I want to take you on a different path. We 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.880 going now that you've now that chief started this path talk. 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:47.200 Let's go path talk. 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.080 Make sure we make sure we call the lawyer's path talk. 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.520 We said your first hit record was in the nineties. Yes, 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:58.240 and what was that record? 0:23:59.080 --> 0:23:59.440 My boo? 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:02.280 Yes, give me my bool. 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:05.400 My boo's fun. 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:06.640 Uh. 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.200 For as long as I can remember, Like I'm a 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.400 like I'm an army brat. So I was raised globally, 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.320 but I graduated high school in Alabama, like a small 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:24.160 town in Alabama called Anniston, and they all like, I'm 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.719 a Southern kid. I've always loved bass and ato waits 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:31.480 and you know all of that. And I remember being 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.960 a kid and trying to get my big brother Greg 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:41.280 shout out to Gregg, who is an amazing musician. I 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:45.639 wish I was the musician he was. And I remember 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:50.080 telling them all the time, bro, we should sing over that, 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:56.280 like I'm watching what happens when they play that ship 0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.600 at the pep rallies because I play football, Like when 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.439 they play that ship at the pep rallies, when they 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.200 play that ship at the dance, when they play that, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.639