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Speaker 1: Ah. There are men.

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Speaker 2: There are men who are writers. There are men who

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Speaker 2: They produced that vocal, that vocal, not the vocal that

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Speaker 2: are the or the This particular kind of man is

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Speaker 1: He also has a beer, make some.

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Speaker 1: The buildings a picture rally fingers. That's before your time.

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Speaker 5: It might have been before my time because I don't

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Speaker 5: know what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: The baseball pictures with this here.

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Speaker 3: He really feel like I can't grow ship bro.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: He I already knew I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: He keeps going. He's done.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I want to say this, thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming right your family, But we never want to

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Speaker 2: take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We never want to take

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Speaker 1: light of that. We know you're busy man.

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Speaker 6: We know you're a busy man. You know you're you're

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Speaker 6: here in Korea. You hear me in Korea man, you know,

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Speaker 6: as the original Black Man would say, even over there Koree.

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Speaker 1: Bleeding from the inside. Yes, I know, Jacob.

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Speaker 2: If you the grap crap prap that thing for me,

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Speaker 2: this is a special day on the R and B

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Speaker 2: Money Podcast.

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Speaker 1: You are a first. You are a first with this particular.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: You lied to me, you are half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, happy birday, che.

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Speaker 7: Happy bad hay bad cheez.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, fro.

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Speaker 4: Lied to me.

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Speaker 3: You know it's gonna come out twelve months from now.

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Speaker 2: Actual sure birthday, brother, and I can't believe you're here

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Speaker 2: on your birthday thinking I can just all right there.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to I just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: part of you in this part.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, So people know I appreciate it,

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Speaker 6: so they can see the happy birthday you want have birthday?

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Speaker 1: Which one for him, however, he wants to receive.

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Speaker 2: You are. You are an awesome brother, one of the

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Speaker 2: coolest human beings ever. Since day one, your family day one.

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Speaker 2: We go all the way back to before all of

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Speaker 2: the ship right.

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Speaker 1: As you. Yeah, as you are the nicest guy ever.

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Speaker 1: You'd be smoking when you want to be.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we don't take his kind we can't take his

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Speaker 2: kindness the weakness, because there's no weakness in this young man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got in his garage, we've worked out together. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Strong I do anywhere.

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Speaker 1: But in any event, I want to start off with

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Speaker 1: the smoke. JQ.

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Speaker 2: You're so nice. I want to get to the smoke

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Speaker 2: who rocked. Yeah for us, sure, Raymond who I want

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Speaker 2: to know?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 1: We will do the pod the way we know what

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Speaker 4: After we talked.

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Speaker 5: About this, that's how we started.

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Speaker 1: I remember everyone, we're moving with that. Jordan piel.

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Speaker 5: I've heard so many iterations of the story. It's wild

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Speaker 5: He said, what did you write? I said, I wrote

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Speaker 5: And he was like, do me a favorite man, Just

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Speaker 5: Now let me say this. Over time, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: So I expect niggas to tell whatever story that you

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Speaker 5: Exactly, and I was like, no, that's not what's happened.

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Speaker 5: What happened. So we started explaining it, and I tell,

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Speaker 5: I were both signed to LA Read, both signed a hit. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and shake is really the one that was like, Yo,

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Speaker 5: you know, I think you guys. He was like, I

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Speaker 5: it gets hurt. So we're like, cool, cool, Cool, let's

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Speaker 5: let's get to it. And it's Sean that actually pulls

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Speaker 5: With Little John, my first the first professional recording, first

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Speaker 5: So yeah, out of high school. This is the first

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Speaker 5: But when Sean plays the John track, I'm amped because

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Speaker 5: I fucking love Little John. Yeah, And at the time,

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Speaker 5: definitely one of favorites moving around Atlanta. So Seawan is like,

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Speaker 5: I think we should write to this. So we're like, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 5: So he mess around, puts in the track, track starts playing.

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Speaker 5: We get hype as hell, were about to write for

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Speaker 5: After about two minutes, were just looking at each other going,

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Speaker 5: So we look at it for a second. I say,

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Speaker 5: It was my favorite song ever at the time. So

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Speaker 5: I curse a lot, so I apologize Mama, my kids.

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Speaker 5: When you see this go crazy, I'm gonna go crazy.

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Speaker 5: Sean's like, play that ship one more time. So we

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Speaker 5: And I got the call earlier to write for USh

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Speaker 5: co wrote it with Neo. What's your Name? If I

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Speaker 5: like it's it's hard for me to copy. I'm not

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Speaker 5: you know, back this story. We sit down and we're like,

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Speaker 5: all right, well, let's just write what we want to write,

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Speaker 5: what we think being Usher is like. And Shake had

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Speaker 5: played us before we got started. He played US Caught Up,

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Speaker 5: he played US Confessions, he played US Superstar, and he

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Speaker 5: you know what, what do these records have in common?

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Speaker 5: And I'm looking at I'm like, they're all very visual.

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Speaker 5: So we knew it needed to be visual. So we're like,

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Speaker 5: talk about what we think, you know, being Usher is.

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Speaker 5: It's got to be in the club because of the

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Speaker 5: here's the thing. Great musical, yeah, bro, genius. So we're like,

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Speaker 5: I get woken up by a car, I get it

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Speaker 5: hooking up by a call from Shakir. It's like, yo,

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Speaker 5: want you and shout down here and he talk to you,

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Speaker 5: We're like nah, Bro, we rock with it the way

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Speaker 5: with Tricky working on some Backstreet board stuff. And I

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Speaker 5: talked to La and La told him that he really

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Speaker 5: He's like he felt like Sean's exact words is. He said,

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Speaker 5: We're on like speakerphone, and we write like five more

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Speaker 5: I sing them all for viv like I sing all

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Speaker 5: viv Is like, oh my god, USh is fucking his

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Speaker 5: girl's best friend. Now, when we wrote it, we literally

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Speaker 5: And I run back upstairs and I call Sean and

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Speaker 5: I'm going, this is the one. We gotta do this

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Speaker 5: this is a story I'm telling you. So Sean's like,

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Speaker 5: fuck it. So he goes and sings it. Plays that

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Speaker 5: shit for La. La is like cool, let's play it

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Speaker 5: for everybody else. Fun part is and our team didn't

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Speaker 5: like the song, Like nobody really wanted Bro to have

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Speaker 5: USh didn't really like the song. He was like, on

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Speaker 3: It, and it doesn't it doesn't fit.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't no album at all at all.

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Speaker 5: And it was the the album. The album was actually done.

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Speaker 5: Burne was the first single the video was and I

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Speaker 5: and we wrote we wrote it shout out to KP.

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Speaker 5: KP is really one of the people that got USh

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Speaker 5: and I was good, Like I understood LA's reasoning, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. L A's whole thing was USh

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Speaker 5: has never really had up until that point, someone standing

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Speaker 5: never put anybody next to him. It's never Usher and

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Speaker 5: if I want to start that with Little John like

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Speaker 5: and KP's whole thing was listen, I don't know all

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Speaker 5: I know is that ship feel like helly Atlanta? I

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Speaker 5: If you don't like it, we don't keep it. But

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Speaker 5: there's no problem with putting your voice on it.

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Speaker 1: Just sing it.

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Speaker 5: Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I want to take you on a different path. We

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Speaker 1: going now that you've now that chief started this path talk.

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Speaker 5: Let's go path talk.

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Speaker 1: Make sure we make sure we call the lawyer's path talk.

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Speaker 1: We said your first hit record was in the nineties. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and what was that record?

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Speaker 5: My boo?

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Speaker 1: Yes, give me my bool.

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Speaker 5: My boo's fun.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: For as long as I can remember, Like I'm a

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Speaker 5: and you know all of that. And I remember being

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Speaker 5: shout out to Gregg, who is an amazing musician. I

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Speaker 5: telling them all the time, bro, we should sing over that,

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Speaker 5: like I'm watching what happens when they play that ship

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Speaker 5: at the pep rallies because I play football, Like when

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Speaker 5: that's what we should sing over. Ain't nobody singing over that?

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Speaker 5: And he used to clown me all the time. That

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Speaker 3: This real music.

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Speaker 5: So I so like, fast forward. I get out of

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Speaker 1: You know, of course I know Achema.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, Achema would take me around. I would

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Speaker 5: So we get to the studio and they start playing

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Speaker 1: They're playing the track or they're playing a song.

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Speaker 5: The track and the song, so they're playing it and

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting there like, yo, this is fucking awesome. So

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Speaker 5: they're like, let's let's cut it. Let's get it. So

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Speaker 5: hard time, but they're not really giving her a hard time.

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00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 5: They just keep saying it's hit suck, like this don't

434
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 5: sound good. And Kimmi gets frustrated after a while because

435
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: they really go in and she's delivering what's written, so

436
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: they're giving her really hard time and she she ends

437
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: up dipping and I'm not trying to dip because this

438
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 5: is my first professional session. So I'm like, well, what

439
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 5: y'all want? And Little John is there and Little Jo

440
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 5: looks at me and goes, hey, Janny, you should sing it.

441
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: And I go this is this is this is this

442
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: song for a girl, no disrespect, but you kind of

443
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: sound like a bitch when you sing.

444
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: So I'm like.

445
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: This repet So I'm like, I'm like, no, I can't

446
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 5: sing it, but I can call my girlfriend. So the

447
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 5: girl that's singing the song again, no, I don't think

448
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 5: was my girlfriend. We met at a junior college in

449
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 5: Alabama called Southern Union, So I called Virgo and I'm like, yo,

450
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 5: you should get down here, like there's a there's a song.

451
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: We could sing this song. So she comes down and

452
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: she comes down with with THEO who she was doing

453
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 5: a lot of I think it was there who she's

454
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: doing a lot of work with at the time, and

455
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 5: she starts singing that and they kind of react the

456
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: same way. This ain't it. So immediately THEO is like, well,

457
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: the problem is like the melodies jacked up, like it's

458
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: not the song. So niggas start working on the melody.

459
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: So I'm just hopping in, Hey, well what if you

460
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 5: sing it like this? Well what if we did this

461
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 5: part like this? So niggas mess around and changing and yeah,

462
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 5: wed the melodies sing the song like Virgo singing the song.

463
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 5: I'm yes, and I'm singing the backs on the record

464
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: to this day. To this day, Yeah, the only voices

465
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 5: that you hear on that song are virgoing me. So

466
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: we we redo the song, and it's crazy because they

467
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: had told me, like, we'll give you guys one hundred

468
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: and fifty bucks for doing it, niggas out of high

469
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: school trying to out.

470
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, so much Taco bell and fifty

471
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: man what so we we we do the.

472
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: First day and we come back the second day and

473
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 5: they haven't given us the money yet. So V's like,

474
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 5: let's just sing it, and I was like, no, Like

475
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: if we sing it, there's no reason for them to

476
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: pay us, Like it's one hundred dollars hundred and fifty bucks. Like,

477
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: I'll talk to them. So we go in there, nigga,

478
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: and I need you to understand, like y'all know me

479
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 5: for a long time, this is the pretty much the

480
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: biggest I've ever been in my entire life. Now out

481
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 5: of high school, nigga, I was a and I'm like, yo,

482
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: like getting the booth. We need to finish this record

483
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 5: because they are on the time batter fact right, And

484
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, we're not singing anything until y'all pay us,

485
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: Like y'all said, y'all was gonna give us the money

486
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: if we sing this. You ain't got no reason to

487
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: pay us. Bro said, oh, you ain't singing like no.

488
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: Man reaches in his bag, pulls out a nine dressed

489
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 5: that bitch on the table.

490
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: Do you know the name of the person that did this?

491
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: I absolutely do. I'm not gonna say I love it,

492
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: I love it, I love it.

493
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: This nigga tank turned in the flag.

494
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, yeah, exactly what it was. And

495
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, he look at me. I was like, no,

496
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 5: I just said I need a little water before the vocals.

497
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: A little drive fucking had night, had Night, went in

498
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: the booth, went the booth, and we saying that bitch down.

499
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: We're saying that bitch down, and then we dip. They

500
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 5: never gave us the money, and it was also the

501
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: last song that was being recorded.

502
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: Trying to say, y'all gotta give us at least some

503
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: water before I start singing any damn thing around here.

504
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: Bro.

505
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: So we sing, we sing it, and they end up

506
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: putting it out as the single, and it ends up

507
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: doing really well. Her just her voice and your Yeah,

508
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: they put it out as a single and it does

509
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: really well. They start trying to perform it and they're

510
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 5: getting booed, So who is this the social death? They

511
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 5: start trying to perform the song because it's in Atlanta

512
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 5: in the South. The ship just becomes a hit, but

513
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: Virgo's not performing it because they treated us like shit

514
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: and they're getting booed everywhere because the girl the singing

515
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 5: this ain't the girl that's on the record. So they

516
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: end up, you know, reaching out to us and like

517
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 5: I remember John calling me and being like where you

518
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: live And I told him where I lived, and Bro

519
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: pulled up with a goal plaque. This is my first

520
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: goal plaque.

521
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: He was like, we straight.

522
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: I'm looking at this ship to say Q Smith. I'm like,

523
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: hell yeah, we straight? What hell yeah? And John and

524
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: I end up like doing like a remix for to

525
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: Me and doing some other shit together. Like I just

526
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 5: remember hanging with John when because John started out as

527
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: you know, an executive, he like he was had a

528
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: head an an R Soso And I remember back then

529
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: him going that he just wanted to be like Uncle Luke.

530
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 5: He was like he was gonna do that. He was

531
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 5: going to figure out how to be a rapper and

532
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 5: be like Luke Skywalker like and I'd be like okay,

533
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 5: and it was DJing and figuring it all out. I

534
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: ended up running in the in the Virgo later because

535
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: we broke up. But I ended up running in the

536
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: Virgo when we hooked back up and she was like,

537
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: oh my god, did they Did you get your plaque?

538
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: I was like, hell, yeah, I got my plank.

539
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: She's like, how much money did they give you?

540
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: I was like what.

541
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 5: Money?

542
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: She was like they never paid.

543
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: She was like, yeah, they gave me, like they gave

544
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: me I got twenty thousand.

545
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 7: Oh.

546
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 5: I was like, watch, you should be outside.

547
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: She takes me outside.

548
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: You take me outside to see the new Purple Ultimate.

549
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: I was like, what.

550
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: Money?

551
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, a good story. Don't learned a lot.

552
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Did you ever get paid?

553
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: No?

554
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 10: I still haven't been paid and I still ain't been paid.

555
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 10: It's all good though, Like I messed around and I.

556
00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: Ended up.

557
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 5: You know what, I ended up getting paid.

558
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: ID you give them two hundred, three hundred, one hundred

559
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: and fifty twice?

560
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: I got two hundred, you got a hundred hundred.

561
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 5: You know what, It's a good birthday present.

562
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 6: I tell I take I'll received this in the name

563
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 6: of every birthday, every Birthdaylujah, all of it, all of it.

564
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Man, what a story. That is great.

565
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: That is a great story, bro.

566
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 6: And now I will never be able to listen to

567
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 6: that record the same again every time I hear it.

568
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 6: I'm going to think of this story.

569
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Bro.

570
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 5: You can hear me the clearest on that. When they

571
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 5: get to the bridge. Boy, you've got an back then.

572
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 5: Nigga couldn't use no autotune either. Niggas just had to.

573
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: Get it right. You heard that, didn't you. Okay?

574
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 5: Oh for clarity, I ain't got no issue with auto

575
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 5: two God bless you.

576
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 6: No, no, no no, But I'm just saying, yeah, we've

577
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 6: been we've been doing this way before the plug in. Boy,

578
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: what I'm from the tape, from the tape that boy,

579
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: what I'm from the tape days, the VCR days.

580
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: Hey, Dad's.

581
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: They could never sink up. They just could waiting for

582
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 5: your part.

583
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: We talked about that flight vocals.

584
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: You going to lunch real quick, He'll figure it out.

585
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: Let's go.

586
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: I like you format today, man, Yeah, I like what

587
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: I mean he's I love the way he got to

588
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: break come here.

589
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: I love the way he's breaking it down.

590
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and I want to get

591
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: to I want to get into his real moments like

592
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: a boy, which I thought.

593
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: Was like a boy thought, I think it is a

594
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 5: crazy fun like a boy about to be the shortest

595
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 5: story ever. God, God bless the Clutch. I did like

596
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 5: nothing on this record. This is one of the records

597
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: where you know inside the clutch. When we started, the

598
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 5: Clutch was a company that I co founded, that carry

599
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: and I and Zeke and Ballewa and Candice Nelson co founded,

600
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 5: not that I could that we co founded.

601
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 6: With huh huh, Jack kick out the clutch before before

602
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 6: he became a car and you put it in the

603
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 6: car to make the clutch.

604
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: You know, you know him.

605
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 5: There was one guy we didn't kick We didn't kick

606
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: him out though we didn't. Tab was there in the beginning.

607
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 5: We did not kick Tab out. Tab just kind of

608
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 5: walked his own path. But Tad was there in the beginning.

609
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: Uh, Tab got kicked out like me.

610
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: You didn't get kicked out.

611
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: You stop it, you stop it.

612
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: I was never.

613
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: I was in Miami formed, but I was never the

614
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 5: first time the first time we worked together was Miami.

615
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 5: It was the weekend of Hurricane Katrina. Yes, it was

616
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: weekend of hurricane.

617
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: Like crazy.

618
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 5: Yes, what what years thousand and five, two thousand and five,

619
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 5: two thousand and four or five might have been four.

620
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 5: It was while, but we we went down there to

621
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 5: work and like Ethiopia and Fulan are really the masterminds.

622
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 5: They put together writing camp and they were like, he

623
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: brought three people from Universal ful Ay and brought three

624
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 5: people from Hicco and they stuck us in the studio.

625
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 5: I think where a circle. Yeah, they stuck us in

626
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 5: the studio for like a weekend. We wrote six songs,

627
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: recorded five by the time we left Sunday. By Tuesday

628
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: four them host was placed.

629
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think this song I wrote with him

630
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 6: got placed that I got kicked, but we can't place

631
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 6: no records for him.

632
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: We did it, and I want to say Epic Epic

633
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: had funded it, so all the four records got placed

634
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: with Epic and we were like, oh, that was cool.

635
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 5: But then we heard from Larry Jackson. It's like Jay

636
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 5: Records started asking, Yo, we heard you guys did this thing,

637
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: and it was pretty cool. Why didn't we get a call?

638
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 5: So then Jay Records flew us out here and we

639
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: did it again. And during that time, me and Zeke

640
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: came up with the name the Clutch, and and Antonio

641
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: Reed Jr. Was there as well. And that's just because

642
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 5: we were at record Plant. Speaking of record Plant, I

643
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 5: heard y'all talking. I can't remember who y'all were talking.

644
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 5: You might have been talking to Oh, you were talking

645
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: to somebody about how when it was when you was

646
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: popping that record plan, you got a little name plate

647
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: on the scooter and y'all saying, y'all never got I

648
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: just wanted you to know, y'all know, I held on

649
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 5: to mind.

650
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: You know what gave my mother.

651
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: I can't take it back, and took our money.

652
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: Can you look smash your cupcake?

653
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 5: This was fine, man, I let this think. Shout out,

654
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 5: Shout out to Pearl. When the Clutch decided to move

655
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 5: the home base really working in Atlanta, we knew we

656
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: wasn't gonna be out here so much. So I asked

657
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: Pearl if I could have my name plate and she

658
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 5: gave it to me. So I've kept this whole time.

659
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: Stays in my studio pel But yeah, bro, we did it.

660
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 5: We came back out and like did it for Larry Jackson.

661
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: Inside that session we figured out how we worked best.

662
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: Carry and I were all were already writing together all

663
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: the time. Zeke and Candice were writing together a lot.

664
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 5: So you know what we started doing early is they

665
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 5: would split us into two rooms. Out of those two rooms,

666
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 5: we would do two to three songs a day in

667
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: each room. So we were turning in anywhere between four

668
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 5: and six songs a day, and people would just book

669
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 5: us for like five days or a week and then

670
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 5: just have thirty forty songs, you know what I mean.

671
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 5: So we're working. We worked that way, and after stuff

672
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: started picking up, what we decided to start doing was

673
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 5: all right, so that everybody eats fairly, you know, whatever

674
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 5: records are created. You know, on this trip, we're splitting.

675
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: We're splitting. So the crew showed up and they mrked

676
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: like a Boy. Funny thing is though we actually wrote

677
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: like a Boy for Kelly Rowland, wrote Like a Boy

678
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 5: for Kelly Rowland, which is hia areas because like fast

679
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: forward a long time. I end up in session with

680
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 5: Kelly Roland maybe a year or so later in Atlanta,

681
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: and we're in session and she's like, JQ, what I

682
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 5: really want is a record like that, like a boy song,

683
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 5: and I was like stop and she was like what.

684
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: I was like, Kelly, stop and she was like, I'm

685
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: being serious. JQ. I was like, we wrote like a

686
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: Boy for you. She was like, why didn't you let

687
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: me hear it? We did? Now the A and R

688
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: that we sent it to happened to be in the room,

689
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: and we're like, we sent.

690
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: It to him.

691
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I love that. And it's the It's

692
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 5: the only time I've seen fire in Kelly's eyes, because

693
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 5: Kelly is actually the sweetest person in yes, And Kelly

694
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 5: turned and looked at him and said, you don't make

695
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: another decision about a record without me, And I was like, OK.

696
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 6: I like that.

697
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: Wow, that is great because you can never pinpoint who

698
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: dropped the ball. There's always somebody in between the office

699
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: or it got to such it never made it too.

700
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: Until you start dealing directly with artists.

701
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's beautiful. You didn't think you had

702
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: a great story that that piece right there? That doesn't

703
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: for me. Here we go, Icebox.

704
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: Back, won't you?

705
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 5: Icebox is actually my favorite song I ever worked on

706
00:42:52,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: that's been released. Wow and quietly fucked quietly not quietly. Oh,

707
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: Marion is my favorite artist to write for. Wow, because

708
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: when I write when Omrion sings it, it sounds like

709
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 5: it sounds in my head like his delivery, like as

710
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: not just as a songwriter, but as a vocal producer,

711
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 5: as a fan, i'ma be honest with you, I don't

712
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: I don't care as much about your ability to get

713
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: to the notes as a lot of pure like musicians do.

714
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 5: All I care is that I believe you like music.

715
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: To me, music has one fucking job, and that's to

716
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 5: make you feel something. That's the only job you know.

717
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 5: And inside of that, I like, I believe that a

718
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 5: music is like a three four minute audible movie. It

719
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 5: is my job as the writer to give you the

720
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 5: best script possible. As a producer, it is your job

721
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: to make sure that the song, the record as a whole,

722
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: comes to fruition in the way it's supposed to. As

723
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 5: an artist, I don't care how fucking will you sing.

724
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 5: I need you to get in character and I need

725
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 5: you to deliver fuck singing it. I need you to

726
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: deliver the record the way that it needs to be delivered.

727
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: And when oh sings shit, it has the.

728
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Urgency my brother.

729
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: Talk. You know, understand how long I've been waiting to

730
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: hear this song live.

731
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: Top five?

732
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: What is Jake U?

733
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 11: Top five?

734
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: Top f what is that cap?

735
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 6: Top five?

736
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: Are these sigles? Body?

737
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: So yo, don't go, don't don't go top your top

738
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: Paul on.

739
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: Top your top five?

740
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah.

741
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, JQS top.

742
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: Fuck.

743
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 5: It's better live, y'all.

744
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: It's better lives that ship your top five R and

745
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: B singer.

746
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: Come on, brother, I had to write this down.

747
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: You prepared?

748
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: You want to slip up on the pod Top five

749
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 5: R and B singers. Okay, this is difficult because I

750
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 5: definitely got seven.

751
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: I became prepared and I'm prepared.

752
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 5: Okay, first and foremot Well, I guess I got way

753
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: more than say. If you break it down, uh, boys

754
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 5: to men.

755
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Hmm, easy, you don't have to explain it. You don't

756
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: have to. We'll take off.

757
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 5: Usher huh. I don't think there's anybody better than us.

758
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 5: Beyonce umber right here.

759
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: That's some time.

760
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's difficult.

761
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: It's difficult to say the list you wrote.

762
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Exactly.

763
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to.

764
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: Trying to go, Okay, we're doing okay, it's your birthday.

765
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: It is my birth okay, boys and men. Prince yea

766
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 5: m J, but specifically Young m J, Young Usher, Beyonce,

767
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: Jo Deasy and Whitney.

768
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't have a gagle because niggas say groups.

769
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: That's just because I don't think. I don't think. I

770
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 5: don't think groups.

771
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: Getting you're right, you're right.

772
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 6: And as a person, if you yeah, you gotta say Sean.

773
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 6: If you're gonna say Casey, you gotta say Joe.

774
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 5: I like, I get it, I love them both. Would

775
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 5: as a person, I would say Sean first. I would

776
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 5: say Sean. Then I would say one. Yeah, Okay, it's close.

777
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 5: Here we go your top.

778
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: R and B songs.

779
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 5: Let's go see it.

780
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

781
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: Can you stand the ring?

782
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: Jesus?

783
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: Mm hmm nay, who.

784
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 5: Can we talk?

785
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 6: Mm?

786
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: A lot of questions, A lot of questions, questions.

787
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: Unbended m M and begging super Woman huh like k

788
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: why what Karen?

789
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: Why?

790
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 7: Yeah?

791
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 6: Master masterfully Yeah, yeah yeah, Shadowy Superwoman out there.

792
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Though.

793
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: It's funny when I was when I was going over

794
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 5: the list, I was like, bro, every song, for the

795
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: most part is Kenny and Jimmie Lewis.

796
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: They are no air mhm.

797
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: They shut up on that. And Vive brought this one

798
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: up and I had to go with it just because

799
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 5: it's the irony bro Janet. Let's wait a while.

800
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

801
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: I'd love to know how many babies were made to

802
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 5: a song that was that was about abstinence. It's the

803
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 5: sexiest song maybe ever.

804
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: I think that's six too.

805
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: I think you just.

806
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: It's your birthday is back to it's your birthday.

807
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: I should make a song about abstinence. Man, you can't

808
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: this ship you.

809
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: They gonna know you don't know what you're talking about.

810
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Waited before when.

811
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: So segment the next segment, segment, We're gonna make a

812
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: volt trying an R and B volte trying your artist you're.

813
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Starting with. We want to get the vocal performance style,

814
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: the styling of the artists, and the passion of the artists.

815
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: Who are you getting the vocal from to make your

816
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: R and B.

817
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 6: Artists audio top thirteen usher Mmmm he said, he said, yeah,

818
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 6: go with him.

819
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 5: If you're going your ability to deliver tempo and deliver

820
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 5: a ballot. One of my favorite vocals ever recorded vocals

821
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 5: ever might be can you help me off the eighty

822
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 5: seven on one album?

823
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: Like Yeah, no, No, He's greater and everybody can't do

824
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: both absolutely right.

825
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: You cannot cannot performance style.

826
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 5: It should be getting difficult because I feel like I'd

827
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 5: be having answers. But then when I take the time

828
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: to look at the artists as a whole, I like Nigga.

829
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 5: That's a while looking at artists, I don't. I don't

830
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: understand on stage the way they perform. Oh yeah, no,

831
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: I understand. That's so difficult because I would say I

832
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 5: would say Chris, I say CB but Marvin Marvin's ability

833
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: to make people move mm hmm, it's different.

834
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 6: I like that.

835
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: A combo guard.

836
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Chris.

837
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

838
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Chris because.

839
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: The energy.

840
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 8: Is unmatched, unmatched, unmatched, unmatched. Love the Marvin reference though

841
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 8: styling close artist rip.

842
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: Chris Quick Quick.

843
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 5: I don't know anybody who's and I'd have to do

844
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: more homework. Has ever been more in touch then Chris

845
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 5: and Chris has lived for a long time in the spotlight. Yeah,

846
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: in the spotlight and somehow right in front whatever the

847
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 5: movement is, but is.

848
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: Globally fly Yeah he's not like Yeah, demographic doesn't matter.

849
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 5: Where you go and people respond, And I think that's

850
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 5: the job.

851
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: The passion of the artist, the heart of the artist.

852
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: Where you getting that from?

853
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't be mad at me, y'all?

854
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: Yay for what upset about? What? Yeah, he'd be rocking,

855
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: he mean it, yay is yay is I was at that.

856
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 5: I don't how about say, I don't necessarily.

857
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Not agertating it was Colosseum.

858
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 5: Mean, yeah, it's not necessarily And that's not always about

859
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 5: always agreeing with what everybody says. But I respect in

860
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 5: some of the state with this.

861
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 3: Political ship man the nigga like Kanye when he performed.

862
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 12: No, I just mean, hey, listen, wherever you are with

863
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 12: your politics, how do I unpluy? Okay, you're pretty but

864
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 12: speaking over talking me.

865
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 5: Speak of ship speak your ship.

866
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: You said you weren't coming here to be political.

867
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not.

868
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 11: I'm not.

869
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 5: I expected some crazy question.

870
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: No, no, we anna do that.

871
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: But we're here now though I didn't get none of

872
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: the kick out questions.

873
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: You take me out. It's cool, it's here now.

874
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: Though.

875
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 3: It's here now thoughcause you just said a few names.

876
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: But what can he do?

877
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 5: I ain't saying no names.

878
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: Are you saying the man? Ain't saying no man?

879
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 5: You was.

880
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: What you did, don't say she.

881
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 4: Saying no names.

882
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 6: Are you ready, j Q, I already we need that story,

883
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 6: all right, funnier fucked up, all right, funny and fucked

884
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 6: up this story.

885
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 11: Hold on, hold on, I didn't know, no, got to

886
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 11: introduce you, right because you're a j Q swift Man

887
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 11: and you are mother fucking legend, legend, nigga.

888
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 5: I apologize, and we want.

889
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 6: To introduce the legend and what he's done and what

890
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 6: he did. And he ain't saying ship. This is j Q,

891
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 6: mister icebox himself where his heart used to be. You

892
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 6: know who you know who you are and broken. He

893
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 6: ain't gonna say he already said your name whatever. Well

894
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 6: on this segment right now, he ain't saying no names.

895
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 5: J Okay, This this story happens over a few years,

896
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 5: so early early, and you know, in my journey, I

897
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 5: was in a group with my brothers, myself, my big

898
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 5: brother Greg, my younger brother Chuck, and my cousin Dre.

899
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 5: Do those names that's not the d okay, Yeah, that

900
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 5: was a lot of names.

901
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: This is birthday and birthday, tough talents names and me.

902
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 5: But I was in this group and even back then,

903
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 5: like I wanted to be part I wanted to help.

904
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: I had ideas so and a lot of people may

905
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 5: not know this about me. I never wanted to be

906
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 5: a songwriter, like this was never, never in my dream.

907
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 5: But I'm in this group. We're in the studio working

908
00:56:54,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: with you know, these producers, and we signed to these

909
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 5: producers because they've got major backing from a professional athlete.

910
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: And we're like, yeah, Bro, were about to do it,

911
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 5: were about to get it. And I remember being in

912
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 5: the studio and the producers and songwriter writing. It was

913
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 5: a production team. They're writing, writing, writing, and I'd be like, oh,

914
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 5: what if you said this? And they just kind of

915
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 5: turn around look at me. They'll be trying to figure

916
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 5: it out. Oh it would be cool if we talked

917
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 5: about this, and they look at me again, maybe third

918
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: or fourth time, and there's a room full of people,

919
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: so it's not just us, it's us. And then because

920
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 5: they're in this huge mansion that the professional athlete has

921
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: gotten for them, it's just a gang of women, bunch

922
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 5: of niggas, And I go, yo, what if we say

923
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 5: and Bro turns around. The songwriter turns around and says,

924
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 5: won't you shut your corny ass up? I'm a songwriter

925
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: he's a producer, you the artist Alabama and turns back

926
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 5: around and the whole room is cracking up. I'm like, okay,

927
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 5: cool coo Goo Goo goo goo Google. You know, take time.

928
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 5: We end up getting out of that situation, you know,

929
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 5: fighting trying to figure out my situation, end up over

930
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 5: at noontime. I'm over at noontime and I've been working

931
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: and writing there long enough to where now I'm one

932
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 5: of the guys that they call you'll go too, And

933
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 5: now they have this artist and I co wrote the

934
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 5: first single, I wrote the second single, and we're tracking

935
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 5: the second single. At the time, we didn't know the

936
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 5: second single, but we're tracking the song and one of

937
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 5: the partners come in and go, hey man, we got

938
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 5: some people that you know, wanna you know, want to

939
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 5: get up here and want to start doing some work.

940
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 5: I told him to come in here and play this

941
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: stuff for you. And I'm like, okay, well, I need

942
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 5: to get finished with Buddy Vocal, so if I could

943
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 5: have like ten minutes to just wrap this part up,

944
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 5: it'll be cool. And it was like, yeah, I'll send

945
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 5: him in there in ten minutes. I was like, thank you, bro.

946
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there and we're going over trying to

947
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 5: get all the backgrounds done. That was back in the

948
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 5: day when I thought more harmonies meant a bigger hit, right,

949
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 5: So every note I could think of, yeah, I know,

950
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 5: it's we already got that note in there.

951
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: But this does a little bit different.

952
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, sing this one. So Bro singing and they come

953
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 5: in the room, Hey hey, and he's like, well, I'm

954
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 5: looking for JQ, and you know I'm JQ.

955
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 11: Now.

956
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 5: When I started, I was just cute. So I'm like, yeah,

957
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 5: just give me one minute, give me one minute. Yeah,

958
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 5: all right, perfect, bro, come on out. We'll get back

959
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 5: in the maybe like five minutes. So I spin the

960
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: cheer around and nigga that called me corny and told

961
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 5: me to shut the fuck up is looking at me.

962
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 5: His eyes get big as ship and I'm like, what up, bro,

963
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 5: And he's like, uh, they just wanted me to come

964
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 5: in here and play, so you up here, you're up

965
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 5: here now. I was like, yeah, man's that's kind of

966
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 5: home now. I was like all right, yeah, yeah bro, yeah, yeah,

967
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 5: So I was you might know these songs. This nigga

968
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 5: plays me my demo, plays me all the songs that

969
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 5: we cut, and I was like, yeah, I appreciate your time.

970
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 5: We'll get back to you. Bro left. It was petty,

971
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 5: but I never felt so much joy ever. Bro comes

972
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 5: into the partner comes in the room, He's like, what

973
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 5: did you And I was just like, I don't funk

974
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 5: with him, no kind of way. He's untrustworthy, he's this,

975
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 5: he's that, this nigga is Bob. I don't funk with him.

976
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 5: And he was like, what did you think about the songs?

977
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 5: I said, He played me songs that I demoed four

978
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 5: years ago and he was like, that's enough for me.

979
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 5: Then I turned back around and finished recording single, my

980
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 5: second single.

981
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: My my mind.

982
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: Be nice to be cool, not even you know what,

983
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: may not even have to just be nice, just be cordial.

984
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 6: We just don't don't don't don't shoot on especially if

985
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 6: they don't deserve it.

986
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 5: Bruh.

987
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 6: You can, you know, pull pull a young man to

988
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 6: the side, shoes a young fello at the time and

989
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 6: we're gonna we might work you in, but you know,

990
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 6: let me focus a little bit, even if it's said

991
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 6: that way. Yeah, and definitely don't don't don't diss where

992
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 6: you're from.

993
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: My father from Ala.

994
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: Oh me, you know, because it could.

995
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: You could very well be in the other chair at.

996
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 5: Some points around it was amazing.

997
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh it's you and on the other side of it.

998
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you another story. When the camera's off.

999
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna get these cameras out. Brother j Q, amazing man.

1000
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: You are amazing man. Outside of all of this, man

1001
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: just an amazing brother.

1002
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1003
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: Anytime you know, and JA can attest to this man

1004
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: anytime your name comes up, it's just good energy all around.

1005
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then it's infectious. You

1006
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1007
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 5: I love you guys. There's not it's crazy. I was

1008
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 5: talking about this yesterday in the session. I was like,

1009
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people.

1010
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1011
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 5: We all was like, but I don't think I have

1012
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 5: a lot of friends. Like I don't trust a lot

1013
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: of people around my I don't feel comfortable enough to

1014
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 5: have them around my kids.

1015
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: Be out.

1016
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 5: I love you guys. You guys have been solid from

1017
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 5: the beginning. You made me better. You make me better.

1018
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 5: You also introduced me to Sean Stockman. It's amazing.

1019
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 6: That's my brother. Yeah, my brothers, all of us. Yes, Yeah,

1020
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 6: he's been a blessing.

1021
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 5: To all of us Christmas project that's coming out.

1022
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1023
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: got the call.

1024
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1025
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: But thank you, bro for being who you are and

1026
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: for being consistent.

1027
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely I appreciate it. Can I say one thing to

1028
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 5: the creatives that may be looking, but I just want

1029
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 5: to say this just because I feel like it needs

1030
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: to be said, and I wish somebody would have told

1031
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: me really early in my career. Is one thing that

1032
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 5: I wanted to make sure I said, for those creatives

1033
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 5: that are out here trying to figure it out, understand

1034
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 5: that success it's easy. And when I say easy, I'm

1035
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 5: not like it's going to fall out of the sky

1036
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: into your lap. But it's not compleated. Like success is

1037
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 5: a combination of good decisions.

1038
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 6: You know, learn.

1039
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 5: To make decisions that move you in the right direction.

1040
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: You know, whenever you're about it, is this moved me

1041
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 5: closer to my goal or not closer to my goal.

1042
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 5: I swear if you do that, you know you will

1043
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 5: get to where you're trying to get. Like math is

1044
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 5: math two plus two will always be four. If you

1045
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 5: keep walking in the direction that you're supposed to be going,

1046
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: Eventually you will get there.

1047
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1048
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 5: Have the people that fall flat now fall flat for

1049
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 5: a couple of reasons. They have a very bad relationship

1050
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 5: with self discipline and self sacrifice. Like there's too much.

1051
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 5: And I'm saying it's because I speak to a couple

1052
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 5: of young people now and that's all of this thing.

1053
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 5: Everybody's scared of missing out and all of that. Just

1054
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 5: understand that the real fucking work gets done alone, you know, Floyd.

1055
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 5: When it's time to get it in and they're preparing

1056
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 5: for a fight, bro, don't go out and bring a

1057
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: bunch of people around. They go into isolation. When Kobe

1058
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: was ready to really ball out, he would say, I'm

1059
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 5: in a cage. When I'm in that cage, don't fucking

1060
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 5: talk to me, don't touch me. You learn who you

1061
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 5: are by your fucking self. Learn to trust you. I'm sorry,

1062
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 5: I got a little amped up, but y'all fall into that.

1063
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 5: I swer I hate.

1064
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: Y'all, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine. I'm JQ,

1065
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: and this is the Army Money Podcast, the authority on

1066
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: all things R and D. This episode has been.

1067
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get y'all that picture. I'm gonna get a

1068
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 5: picture of.

1069
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: Man. Thank you well.

1070
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,000
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1071
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1075
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,280
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01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,200
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