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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Hunter Biden is now suing over

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Speaker 1: his stolen laptop. We have an all star lineup today.

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Speaker 1: Former Speaker of the House of Representatives, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: tells us what she makes of this congressional class. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Senator Patty Murray about her unique position

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Speaker 1: in the Senate. But first we will talk to former

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Speaker 1: Vermont governor and presidential candidate Howard Dean. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Fast Politics, Howard Dean, Thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Very excited to have you. I wanted to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about the continual decline of the Republican Party. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what is happening. Well, I don't think it's a decline.

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Speaker 1: I think they've simply become an authoritarian party modeled after

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Speaker 1: what the Russians are doing, or what the Hungarians are doing,

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Speaker 1: or the polls are doing. What it is is a

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Speaker 1: decline of one of the two major parties in the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. It's a decline in the interests

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Speaker 1: of democracy. But I think they remain very dangerous for

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Speaker 1: the country and for the future of America. What you're

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Speaker 1: saying is interesting and something I have not heard quite

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Speaker 1: articulated this way. Can you you think this was sort

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Speaker 1: this started before that? I think New started it. There's

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Speaker 1: always been, you know, right wing crack pots in the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. You know that the John Birch Society and

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Speaker 1: all these kinds of stuff that's been going on since

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Speaker 1: the forties and fifties. But this is the first time

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Speaker 1: that the crack pots have taken over par and it's

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Speaker 1: very scary. I mean, the santist is pretending to run

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Speaker 1: Glenn Yuncan to run around Virginia with his nice fleece

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Speaker 1: public schools, which of course doesn't exist in any public

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Speaker 1: school in America. That was racist. But to say it

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Speaker 1: just makes no bones about it. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: clear who was appealing to. And he's one of the

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Speaker 1: front runners of the for the nomination in in two

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Speaker 1: There are people of principle in the Republican Party. The

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Speaker 1: problem is most of them black courage. Yeah, and as

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Speaker 1: a disaster for the United States, that does sound like

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Speaker 1: a very accurate assessment. I want to just like drill

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Speaker 1: down on this for a second. Do you think this

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Speaker 1: happened because the party, the Republican Party is so profoundly

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Speaker 1: do you think they just decided to make this deal

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Speaker 1: with the devil. I think it's a combination. They are weak,

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Speaker 1: they have lost their connection with average Americans, so they

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Speaker 1: rely on what fascists rely on, which is grievance politics.

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Speaker 1: It really does sound like Hitler when they when he

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Speaker 1: starts talking, except instead of about Jews, it's about acts

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't have had him in the first place, or

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Speaker 1: the Mexican rapists and all that kind of stuff that

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Speaker 1: Trump was talking about. Although it did sort of start

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Speaker 1: power was to blow up your opposition and to to

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Speaker 1: demonize them. And of course, you know you fight fire

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Speaker 1: with fire. So that's what's really split the country apart.

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Speaker 1: That didn't start with Trump, but he English laid the

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Speaker 1: groundwork for Trump to emerge twenty years later. One of

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Speaker 1: the things you've been really involved in is trying to

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Speaker 1: help Democrats win, right, like win every state. Do you

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Speaker 1: think there's an opportunity here for Democrats to pick up

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Speaker 1: these non zalodous, more normal voters. Well, yes, because there's

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Speaker 1: only so much market in a true democracy for racism

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Speaker 1: and bigotry. You will get a significant number of people,

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Speaker 1: It appears that the Democrats are out of touch. I

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Speaker 1: think Biden. One of Biden's much overlooked qualities is that

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Speaker 1: Santis is about to run a candidacy based on bigotry

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Speaker 1: d n C. So explain to us how you fix that. Well.

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Speaker 1: Florida has been a particu gular disaster for as long

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Speaker 1: It is it is, it's very borganized, it's very it's

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Speaker 1: also an old people's state. And my generation sadly has

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Speaker 1: of course, what what state has more boomers than anybody else?

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Speaker 1: So Florida is going to be really hard to to reorganize.

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Speaker 1: We didn't do it. We didn't organize it very well.

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Speaker 1: Obama that one of the greatest feats that Obama did

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Speaker 1: But they had a set up their entire and entire

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Speaker 1: That was just the usual New York self absorption. I

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Speaker 1: mean they're always you know, New Yorkers are always about themselves.

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Speaker 1: And sort of New York politics is like that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a minute. Um, the House belongs to Republicans. If Democrats

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Speaker 1: get their ship together, they could because there are a

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Speaker 1: cocta that's the medical term, uh Senate map. Can we

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Speaker 1: talk about that? Yeah, that'll be very hard for us.

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Speaker 1: Hanging onto the Senate will be hard. I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna need to replace people like Stabin. Oh, I think

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Speaker 1: we can do that in a Democratic side. Tester is

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Speaker 1: the best person for that job. He gets Montana. The

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't, if he chooses not to run, I

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Speaker 1: think we have a shot at that seat. People get

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Speaker 1: sick of this right wing nuts stuff, the ones that

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Speaker 1: helpful to us. But you're right, is a tough map.

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Speaker 1: One of the spots that is going to be particularly

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Speaker 1: vote margin, and that's tough. If you had Santos, If

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Speaker 1: Santos had been a Democrat, it never would have been.

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Speaker 1: But if he had been, would you have pushed him

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Speaker 1: to resign? I mean, McCarthy thinks this vote helps him,

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Speaker 1: but has continually been such an embarrassment. Well, he's an embarrassments.

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Speaker 1: Question is are these people embarrassed? I mean, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: he may be an embarrassment, but some of their members

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Speaker 1: are a danger to the American people. To watch what

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Speaker 1: is happening on the Republican side is really sad. This

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Speaker 1: is the Grand Old Party. I keep telling Republicans, take

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Speaker 1: back your party. This isn't who you are. You've done

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Speaker 1: great things for America, You've had great presidents of the

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Speaker 1: United States, and now you look like a punch line. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good joke. But again, his behavior is such that it

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Speaker 1: does not bring dignity and respect to the Congress, to

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Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, and that is a rule of

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Speaker 1: the House that your behavior should not being disrespect to

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Speaker 1: the House. So he's already violated that. Whether he has

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Speaker 1: violated law in terms of campaign contributions, whether he has

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Speaker 1: I think two things all the things they talk about,

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Speaker 1: enhancing his resume, all that stuff, but terrible. But what

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Speaker 1: really matters is did he break the law, he violate

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Speaker 1: the rules of the House, and did he commit hubris

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Speaker 1: by associating himself in a way that wasn't true with

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Speaker 1: the Holocaust? We hold that in a very special place,

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Speaker 1: and clearly he did not. I don't spend a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of time on him, because again, he's not a

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Speaker 1: legislative danger at the moment. I think it's a shame

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Speaker 1: that he is in Congress. I think it's a shame

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Speaker 1: on the Republicans that he's there. But again, they have

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Speaker 1: a good deal of shame going on on their side

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Speaker 1: of the aisle in New York State. I'm in New

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Speaker 1: York City. Actually, we've had a really not great run

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Speaker 1: in these mid terms, despite the fact that Democrats had

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Speaker 1: an amazing run everywhere else. I mean, you know a

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Speaker 1: lot about sort of the party and how to get

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Speaker 1: it done. What are your thoughts about New York City. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me just say about the election writ large, I

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Speaker 1: kept telling people all along, all over the country, with

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Speaker 1: campaigning for candidates or making speeches to a broader audience,

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Speaker 1: or raising money whatever, that we were going to win.

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Speaker 1: I said, do not pay attention to any of these

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Speaker 1: pundits or sitting someplace in d C deciding they know

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Speaker 1: what's going on in the rest of the country. Our

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Speaker 1: candidates came forth after January six. They came forth with patriotism,

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Speaker 1: with courage, and with confidence that they could win. They

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Speaker 1: knew why they were running and they were determined to win.

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Speaker 1: So I felt very confident that we could hold the House.

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Speaker 1: The others said, oh, no, you have the wrong message,

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Speaker 1: and un us and that, and I said, no, we

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Speaker 1: don't have the wrong message. Oh, your message is in

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Speaker 1: the rear view mirror. No it isn't. We know our districts.

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Speaker 1: Our candidates know their districts. We had a clear distinction

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Speaker 1: between Democrats and republican in terms of the contrast about

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Speaker 1: who was for lowering the cost of prescription drugs and

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Speaker 1: who was there with pharma, to use one example, who

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Speaker 1: was there for women's right to choose and who was

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Speaker 1: there to criminalize women's right to choose in the country.

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Speaker 1: And so people knew in their districts the importance of democracy,

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Speaker 1: the importance of our freedoms, the importance of kitchen table issues,

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Speaker 1: like the cost of prescription drugs, and they were doing

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Speaker 1: very well in their districts. Even though the punditry, even

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Speaker 1: the Democratic counttry was saying, oh, you don't have it wrong.

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Speaker 1: We were saying to them, police, don't talk about something

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Speaker 1: you don't know about. So we felt pretty good about

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Speaker 1: our race. Ten days before, two weeks before New York

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Speaker 1: started to show weakness at the statewide level, and all

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Speaker 1: the focus was then to win the governorship, which was

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Speaker 1: very very important to do, but it did come at

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Speaker 1: the expense of our races a long and in the

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Speaker 1: Hudson River Valley, Hudson Valley, and that was most unfortunate

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Speaker 1: to how came you could be speaker in this term.

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Speaker 1: You never know, you don't know with all the things

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Speaker 1: that are going on, but we certainly have the capacity

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Speaker 1: to win it in four I hope it's a lesson

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Speaker 1: learned for some who think they know what's going on

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Speaker 1: in races that they have no knowledge of, that they

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Speaker 1: are second guessing. How we have chosen messages for the district,

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Speaker 1: not us, the candidates who believe they can win, who

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Speaker 1: know what works, and all of these are consistent with

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Speaker 1: our values and our priorities. And not consistent with hearsay

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Speaker 1: rumor and coundentry and Washington d C. So New York

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Speaker 1: was a disappointment. I was told, actually that New York

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Speaker 1: could pick up seats. I said, I don't count it

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Speaker 1: that way, and I do not count it that But no,

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Speaker 1: we did not expect to lose four seats. There three

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Speaker 1: seats that were actually Democratic seats that went bad, and

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Speaker 1: one that was was Jean Patrick Maloney. He lost by

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Speaker 1: a half a percentage point. When the governor lost by

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Speaker 1: like ten points in his district. Other statewide office holders

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Speaker 1: went down in their percentage in those particular districts as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was mind blowing. So but you think the governorship

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Speaker 1: ended up distracting from the congressional seats. The fact that

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Speaker 1: they did not address the political concern that was clear

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Speaker 1: early enough had an impact on the House seats. Let

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Speaker 1: me say this, I'm a former cheer of the California

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party years ago. If I want to win statewide,

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Speaker 1: I know what I have to do. If I want

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Speaker 1: to win congressional or legislative seats, I know what I

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Speaker 1: have to do. If I have to want to do both,

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Speaker 1: I want to do both. Then you have to do both. So,

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Speaker 1: for example, one win statewide, what do you do you

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Speaker 1: do Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley, San Jose like that.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to win seats in those democratic areas,

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Speaker 1: those seats are one right, So what choice had to

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Speaker 1: be made? So in New York, the representation was that

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Speaker 1: they were doing both, but the downside of the governor's

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Speaker 1: race was too. I mean, Sean Patford is winning, is

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Speaker 1: losing by half a point, and the governor is losing

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Speaker 1: by ten points in his district. You see what the

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Speaker 1: challenge this challenges. And again I I fully support winning

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Speaker 1: the governor's race, but I did not think it had

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Speaker 1: to be at the expense of the control of the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives in California. You have made a statement

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Speaker 1: on that senatorial seat that is everybody wants it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Can you just tell our listeners what that endorsement was.

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Speaker 1: My statement was that if Senator Feinstein decides to seek

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Speaker 1: real leftction, she has my wholehearted support. If she chooses

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Speaker 1: not to run, I'm supporting Adam Schiff for Senate. California

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Speaker 1: is a huge, wonderful state, probably the fourth largest economy

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Speaker 1: in the world. Forty million people, our balance of trade

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Speaker 1: because of agriculture, and not so many things are meaning

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Speaker 1: the US balance of trades meant much of its springs

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Speaker 1: from California, whether it's movies or produce, and so we

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Speaker 1: need a strong leader in the Senate. Senator Feinstein, in

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Speaker 1: my statement, I spend most of my time singing her praises,

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Speaker 1: that she has one of the finest legislative records in

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Speaker 1: and Senate history, that she has been a champion on

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Speaker 1: the public safety in terms whether you're talking about what's

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Speaker 1: about safety and security, whether you're talking about assault weapon ban,

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Speaker 1: or you're talking about Intelligence Committee, where she is such

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Speaker 1: a champion as a chair, we want a Senator who

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Speaker 1: will continue that strength. Adam Schiff as a person who

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Speaker 1: is the chair of the until just now, and the

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Speaker 1: Speaker took him off the committee because he was too

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Speaker 1: effective in his he Adam was too effective in his

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Speaker 1: opposition to Donald Trump, and Kevin was so catering to

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Speaker 1: mar Lago. But until then he was chair of the

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Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee. And so from the standpoint of our national

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Speaker 1: security to the season nexus between national security and the

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Speaker 1: fact that our security is also measured in the health, education,

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Speaker 1: well being of the American people. So he sees that

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Speaker 1: connection between security and economy and kitchen table issues for

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Speaker 1: the American people. I'm very, very excited about supporting him.

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Speaker 1: Should Diane decide not to run again. She has been remarkable,

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Speaker 1: an icon a woman and government and politics, just iconic

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Speaker 1: figure my love and respect. But if she decides not

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Speaker 1: to go, I think we need a strong senator, both

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Speaker 1: in terms of the security of our country, the strength

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Speaker 1: of our economy, and the fairness of it all in

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Speaker 1: terms of addressing disparities and the rest. Adam Schiff has

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Speaker 1: done this again and again. And when you ongoing basis,

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Speaker 1: people like Tucker Carlson have spread horrible rumors about you.

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Speaker 1: You have been demonized, as many successful women have. This

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Speaker 1: leads to an actual concrete attack on your family in

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Speaker 1: your home. Are you furious? I mean, I'm furious for you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not. You know, first of all, they if

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Speaker 1: they demonized me because I was effective and biggest fundraiser

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Speaker 1: pass legislation always. But I also give credit to my members.

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Speaker 1: I'm not their unifier. Were unified by our values and

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Speaker 1: our members are very courageous to do what is needed

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Speaker 1: to be done. So But because I have an effective

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Speaker 1: record politically has been more importantly policy wise. They decided

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Speaker 1: they had to try to take me down, which is

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Speaker 1: sad because that's not what politics should be about. But

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Speaker 1: it is what it has been about, and that was

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Speaker 1: a plan on the part of the Republican National Committee

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Speaker 1: to do just that. But what's sad for me is

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Speaker 1: that while I'm at the target, uh, they went after

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Speaker 1: my husband, and that is really a horrible thing. Take

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Speaker 1: it to a larger place. What I'm concerned about, and

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Speaker 1: have been for a number of years, is that when

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Speaker 1: I've encouraged women to run for when I came to Congress,

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Speaker 1: or twelve Democratic women eleven Republican women three out of

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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty five terrible. So I said, I

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Speaker 1: can't you know, I'm a former chair of the party.

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Speaker 1: I'm political. So we have to change that. And for

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Speaker 1: box Or and others, we mismade a decision to do that,

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Speaker 1: and now we have ninety nine nine d Democratic women.

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Speaker 1: We certainly want more. The Republicans have gone to maybe

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Speaker 1: thirty or something like that, so they have grown their

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Speaker 1: number two not what we have, but they have more,

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Speaker 1: and we certainly want more women on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the aisle. But the fact is, when you talk to

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Speaker 1: women and say that our country needs you, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: more wholesome for our government and our political system than

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Speaker 1: the fuller participation of women in the process. That you

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Speaker 1: will make a tremendous difference. They say back to me,

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Speaker 1: I could never subject my family because many of them

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Speaker 1: are much younger than I now. But you know, when

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Speaker 1: they start off, I can't subject my family to the

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Speaker 1: negative attitude. I can't have my children coming home from

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Speaker 1: school crying because somebody said saw something on TV that

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Speaker 1: wasn't true about me, And so that's what concerns me more.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm most concerned about what happened to my

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Speaker 1: husband and the threats to me and my family, but

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Speaker 1: again to what it means in the larger sense, two

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Speaker 1: women saying, I just I just don't know that I

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Speaker 1: can subject my family to this. Now many have and uh,

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Speaker 1: they are courageous and and you know, there's much been

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Speaker 1: written and said about threats to members of congressmen and women,

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Speaker 1: and that's most unfortunate. But I resent the impact of

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Speaker 1: that their negative attitude towards me has had on other

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Speaker 1: women taking the stand up. Had women tell me that

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Speaker 1: after some of the negative ads that have been played

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Speaker 1: against them. People they know well cross the street when

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Speaker 1: they see them coming and and their children will come

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Speaker 1: home crying, as I said, and that's just not what

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Speaker 1: politics should be about. So I've always said, if we

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Speaker 1: want more women in politics, we have to raise the

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Speaker 1: civility and lower the role of money, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: more women to run. And that when women succeed, America succeeds.

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Speaker 1: And I feel very I believe, very strongly, and that

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Speaker 1: is your husband doing better. Only you're kind to ask. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's about a halfway there. The doctor told him about

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Speaker 1: So we went to Kenny Center Honors and oh, he

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Speaker 1: different things. But I appreciate your asking. People are always

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Speaker 1: asking and praying for him, and I'm very very grateful

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Speaker 1: for that. Thank you so much for all your time.

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Speaker 1: Murray is the senior senator from Washington State. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Fast Politics, Senator Patty Murray. Well, nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Very excited to have you here. You are the President

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Speaker 1: pro temp of the United States Senate. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: We call it president pro tim. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: longer way to pronounce temperary or something that I go

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Speaker 1: with President pro tim. Very exciting and what does it

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Speaker 1: mean exactly? The President pro tim is actually the person

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Speaker 1: that presides when the Vice president is not here to

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Speaker 1: do it. There are ministerial duties to it. I opened

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Speaker 1: the Senate this morning, um as part of it, part

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Speaker 1: of my job, uh and importantly, third in line to

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Speaker 1: the president. So I have to stay abreast of absolutely

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Speaker 1: everything happening domestically and internationally in case something horrible happens,

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Speaker 1: which we all presume will not, but I have to

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Speaker 1: be ready for that ship. How do you get this job?

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Speaker 1: But I've been around a long time. To be seniority

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Speaker 1: and my colleagues vote for me to do that is

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Speaker 1: it's quite cool. So I want to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: You came in, you were elected in which was this

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Speaker 1: year the woman? You came in on? You know, in

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Speaker 1: a group of women, you have you have made women's

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Speaker 1: house a big issue. We have just seen the fall

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Speaker 1: of Row. Explained to me what that has meant to you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know what it's meant to me and

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Speaker 1: my mother. It's just heartbreaking. I did come in before

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Speaker 1: I was elected, they were all of two women in

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Speaker 1: the Senate out of a hundred. We've made progress. Actually,

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Speaker 1: when I was elected, we got to be six and

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Speaker 1: they called it the Year of the Woman, which seems

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Speaker 1: just kind of crazy, but uh, and you know, women

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Speaker 1: have become more and more part of the political process

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Speaker 1: of serving and positions, being a voice for their constituents,

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Speaker 1: and obviously making sure that women have a place in

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Speaker 1: our country economically and be able to have their voice

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Speaker 1: be heard and have issues solved in a way that

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Speaker 1: to see the courts overturned Row and specifically say to

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Speaker 1: politician is just devastating. But I'm not one who just

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Speaker 1: you know, Carls in a corner. I'm fighting back, and

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Speaker 1: so are women and men across this country. And that

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Speaker 1: the protections back into law at the federal level. So

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Speaker 1: marriage was codified by the Congress. I mean it seems

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Speaker 1: like Row, it seems like Row should be but clearly,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a much heavier left it is right now.

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Speaker 1: But I think what I saw happen since Rowe fell

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Speaker 1: sudden realized it's them, and it's that understanding gross and

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Speaker 1: people see what is at risk. Um, I think they

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Speaker 1: will become more actively involved and we will at some

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Speaker 1: point see ROW codified into law at the federal level.

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Speaker 1: But nobody should think that's easy. That means electing people

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Speaker 1: you know, we all have to be a part of this.

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Speaker 1: You had this very interesting reelection where Republicans got very

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Speaker 1: remember hearing that and thinking, because you know, Republicans, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they really were like, we're going to do this, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're not. But who is still?

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Speaker 1: I know? So I want to ask you, you really

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Speaker 1: know how the Senate works. Um Democrats don't hold the

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Speaker 1: Congress don't hold the House anymore, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: think that's absolutely right, because I really do think at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, will understand we have differences

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Speaker 1: of opinion, but they don't want chaos. They actually want

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Speaker 1: their country to be okay. They want to get up

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Speaker 1: every morning, take care of themselves, their families, do their

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Speaker 1: d c. And whether it's going to impact them in

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Speaker 1: way we do that is to do our jobs here

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Speaker 1: making sure that we pass our government funding bills in

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Speaker 1: a regular way so people don't have to worry at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year that the government's going to

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Speaker 1: shut down and all that bugaboo uh, and that they

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Speaker 1: really want us to be here doing our jobs. And

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited that the four people that are

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Speaker 1: the appropriations bills, UH, the Republican and Democrat in both

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Speaker 1: the House and Senate, our women, and we come to

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Speaker 1: work every day to get things done. We don't want chaos.

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Speaker 1: We want to do our jobs. We know it's hard work.

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Speaker 1: We don't skip over pieces of it. We don't pretend

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Speaker 1: to sies. We go to work. And that gives me

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Speaker 1: a lot of hope that we can show this country

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Speaker 1: that we can operate and function within a political climate that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is sometimes very hard. Tell us who the people are

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Speaker 1: on Appropriations in the Senate, it's you. You're the chair. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I chair the Senate Appropriations Committee. My vice chair Republican

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Speaker 1: counterpart is Susan Collins. In the House, k Granger is

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Speaker 1: Laura wow, because she is New Haven's congresswoman and has

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Speaker 1: purple hair. More importantly, will you just tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: for the people who are like my dad, not that

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Speaker 1: I don't love my dad, what Appropriations does. Absolutely. The

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Speaker 1: Appropriations is the committee that decides where and how all

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Speaker 1: the funding in our government goes. Covers everything from defense

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Speaker 1: cultural spending to foreign operations, the whole gamut. It's like

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Speaker 1: your family budget is in front of you. You know,

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Speaker 1: you've got to pay your rent or your mortgage. You

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Speaker 1: to college. You gotta make sure that you got money

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Speaker 1: for whatever sports equipment your kids need. Um, we look

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Speaker 1: at everything within our quote country family budget and decide

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Speaker 1: what's going to be the priorities and how we make

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Speaker 1: sure it is funded in a way that works for us.

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Speaker 1: And I always say, our budget and spending really is

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Speaker 1: a reflection of our values. What do we want in

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Speaker 1: this country, the values that we want to make sure

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Speaker 1: we're investing in for our families and our communities. You

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Speaker 1: have this trauma with what's happening right now with McCarthy

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Speaker 1: trying to default, Republicans trying to hold the American budget

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Speaker 1: hostage by threatening to default on our debt. What do

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Speaker 1: you think about that? I think that's horrendous. Look if

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Speaker 1: if you decide you are going to buy a house,

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Speaker 1: this is what it's gonna cost me, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: to go forward with this, you sign it all and

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Speaker 1: then the first month you get your mortgage bill, you go, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to pay this, and it just didn't

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Speaker 1: work that way. When we as Congress decide this is

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Speaker 1: where our money is going to go, and we sign

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Speaker 1: contracts to make sure that we're paying for what we

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Speaker 1: um decided to have, we can't turn around a few

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Speaker 1: months later and say to our two people we owe

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Speaker 1: money to that we're not going to pay the bill.

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Speaker 1: That that is crazy, and to use that to hold

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Speaker 1: us hostage our job to get our appropriations, bills, our

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Speaker 1: budget done, the work we need to do is just

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Speaker 1: playing politics with the nation's credit. That is dangerous and

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Speaker 1: we can't allow it. So what happens now? I mean,

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Speaker 1: is there anything that Democrats can do, or even that

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Speaker 1: Biden can do? I mean, I feel like Biden has

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Speaker 1: learned a lesson from Obama's experience with dealing with the

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Speaker 1: House Republicans on this, and he's just said he's not

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Speaker 1: going to do it. But I mean, this still could

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Speaker 1: play out very close to the deadline, right. I would

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Speaker 1: say to anybody who is gonna have to who's bought something,

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Speaker 1: pay your bill. I would said to my country, hey,

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Speaker 1: you don't get to the time you pay that bill,

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Speaker 1: and then say, well, I'm not gonna pay this bill

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Speaker 1: unless you whatever. We just can't do that. So I

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Speaker 1: say to McCarthy to Republicans in the House, into our country,

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Speaker 1: pay our bills, and then yeah, if you want to

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Speaker 1: have a debate about where that money should be spent

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Speaker 1: for the following year, what our priorities are, what our

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Speaker 1: budget should be, put it in the place where it's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be. But don't play with our nation's credit.

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Speaker 1: That is dangerous and costly. So I think McCarthy loses

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Speaker 1: in the end if he tries to pay politics with this.

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Speaker 1: Our country does not want to default on our debt.

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Speaker 1: It would be devastating, and I think he has set

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Speaker 1: himself up to have to say a face by saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: never mind, which you know, nobody wants to put him

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Speaker 1: in that position. He's put himself in that position. But

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Speaker 1: just let's do our job under Trump. Three times the

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Speaker 1: Republicans voted to pay our bills to raise the death ceiling.

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Speaker 1: This is playing politics now, and it's wrong. Do you

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Speaker 1: feel that having been a preschool teacher has helped you

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Speaker 1: deal with Washington DCA? Oftentimes I feel like I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the face of preschoolers. Um you know you have

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Speaker 1: to be tough. You have to say it's my turn

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Speaker 1: to talk. You have to say, you know it's time

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Speaker 1: to put your maths away. Um, you have to say,

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Speaker 1: we've got work to do. And then there's times where you,

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Speaker 1: you know, really come together and sing a song. But

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Speaker 1: oftentimes within your class, you always have the bully, you

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Speaker 1: always love, the person who speaks too much, the child.

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Speaker 1: That's my world. You've been in the state for I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think of such a long time ago, but

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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, you've seen a real chain in

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Speaker 1: American politics. Can you just talk about that for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I do see change in that. It's much more hyper politically,

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Speaker 1: was politics when I came in n There was disagreements,

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Speaker 1: but there was also a consensus among Republicans that when

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Speaker 1: you fight for something, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you have to find a compromise. That is how our

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Speaker 1: country works. And finding those people who still understand that

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Speaker 1: that's the job we came here to do is getting

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Speaker 1: very difficult. But I will say to everyone, there are

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Speaker 1: people who understand that though we're elected to fight for

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Speaker 1: what our beliefs is, if we want our country to work.

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Speaker 1: We have to listen to our counterparts, find common ground,

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Speaker 1: and move the ball forward. That's what I try to

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Speaker 1: do every day. Are you happy that Susan Collins got

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Speaker 1: re elected? You know, I'm delighted to have Susan asked

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Speaker 1: my counterpart on the Appropriations Committee, because she shares the

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Speaker 1: value I just talked about when it comes to getting

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Speaker 1: knows that if we don't pay our bills, if we

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Speaker 1: don't put together appropriations bills and we don't decide where

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Speaker 1: our spending is going to go first, we haven't done

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Speaker 1: our job, and be we're doing a disservice to all

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Speaker 1: of our country because we're not investing in where we

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Speaker 1: need to invest. We've not done our job. She has

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Speaker 1: committed to doing that with me. We've had great conversations.

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Speaker 1: We're working well together. We do disagree on some issues

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Speaker 1: and that's fine. We know where those are, but we

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Speaker 1: find out where we agree and right now we agree

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Speaker 1: it's our job to get our job done. There are

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Speaker 1: some Red state senators who have come in basically on

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Speaker 1: very much sort of maga, more like congressional campaigns. Are

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Speaker 1: you anxious about working with those people. Well, I find

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Speaker 1: people who I can work with. There are people who

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Speaker 1: are elected to office today who feel their only job

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Speaker 1: here is to come and say no, no, no no. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, how do you pass a budget here in

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Speaker 1: the majority party? If every one of your members in

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Speaker 1: the Republican caucus in the House, I think that the

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Speaker 1: only vote they can take is no. They're in the majority,

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Speaker 1: they have got to work to pass bills. You can't

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Speaker 1: come here and just say I'm not doing anything because

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Speaker 1: your country stops moving. We have a job to do,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping we continue to find people who are

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Speaker 1: willing to do it. Thank you so much, Senator Patty Murray.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you. Jesse Cannon, Molly jung Fast,

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Speaker 1: that cookie cookie woman from Georgia that we know as

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Jewish Space Laser's Taylor Green. Nothing cookie about the

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Speaker 1: slow sliding into fascism, but yes, she does absolutely, unequivocally suck. Listen,

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Speaker 1: don't you talk like you know things, because she knows

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Speaker 1: more than you, buddy, because she's going to tell you, oh,

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Speaker 1: no question about what CRT really is. Oh please do

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Speaker 1: let me let me let her in like you real Festo,

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Speaker 1: can you tell me how much how much COVID cash

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Speaker 1: went to CRTRT critical race theory and education. It's it's

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Speaker 1: somehow their white skin is not equal to black skin

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Speaker 1: and other things in education. No, I do not know that,

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Speaker 1: but I do know that there's provisions that the federal

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Speaker 1: funds generally are not used. They're supposed to be used

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Speaker 1: for curriculum. It's a state, Mr Didero. I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you in Illinois that they received five point one

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Speaker 1: billion um at at an elementary school there that that

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Speaker 1: used it for equity and diversity. Um, so it's it's

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Speaker 1: being used for these things. Mr Didero. Can you do

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Speaker 1: five point one billion dollars to one elementary school? You know?

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Speaker 1: I went to her to get covered where she got

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Speaker 1: that statistic. It turns out was the Gateway pund did

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Speaker 1: thick tech tour. Yeah, just just to be clear for

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Speaker 1: for the Libel suit. That's a joke. People, they're so

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Speaker 1: Gateway Pundon institute. It is, it's its own think tank.

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Speaker 1: We're all gonna die. Marjorie Taylor Green is going to

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Speaker 1: end up as a Republican Speaker of the House, and

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Speaker 1: uh the end. There you go, Ladies and gentlemen. That's

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Speaker 1: it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and Friday to her the best minds in politics, makes

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Speaker 1: sense of all this chaos. If you enjoyed what you've heard,

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Speaker 1: please send it to a friend and keep the conversation going.

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Speaker 1: And again, thanks for listening.