WEBVTT - The Ultimatum

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<v Speaker 1>When Elian made it to Miami, I was twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>old living in Cuba. My younger brother, Juan Carlos, who

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<v Speaker 1>we called Kwankey, was eight, kuanky like me. Remember, Alian's

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<v Speaker 1>face was everywhere, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, and they made shirts and posters and all

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<v Speaker 2>over the school.

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<v Speaker 3>There was the flavor of the month.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Elian's story was more than just the flavor of the month. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a national cause. Before Elian was even rescued,

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<v Speaker 1>his family in Cuba had contacted the Communist party in

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<v Speaker 1>his hometown seeking help. That's how Fidel Castro found out

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<v Speaker 1>about Ilian. The Cuban government sent a message to the US.

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<v Speaker 1>The day after Elian was found, Tregress and Mino Superba

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<v Speaker 1>in Cuba returned the boy to his father in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>In the days that followed, Strum met with Ilian's father

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<v Speaker 1>and became increasingly angry. In film and check, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>the US has kidnapped Elian Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 5>The opinion shut down where.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded a little like a threat, but the ominous

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<v Speaker 1>stone in Castro's boys escaped my kid brother. He was

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned that he could not watch his regular cartoons

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<v Speaker 1>because of the constant news about Eliang.

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<v Speaker 6>They were giving a whole spill of bring back Alian

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<v Speaker 6>at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a kid that he really didn't care about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not care about cartoons. I was just a

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<v Speaker 1>regular nerdy preteen, dividing my time between poetry and the

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<v Speaker 1>Spice Girls. The year before, my father had fled Cuba

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<v Speaker 1>for Miami. He was trying to escape the poverty and

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<v Speaker 1>instability of our country. I didn't know when I will

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<v Speaker 1>see him again. Much of this time in my life

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<v Speaker 1>is blurry, but there is one sharp memory. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the US headquarters in Cuba at a government

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<v Speaker 1>mandated protest that I was required to attend.

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<v Speaker 7>Screaming loudly.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring back Ilian to Cuba. This memory surprises me now

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<v Speaker 1>because frankly, I don't remember what I actually thought of Elia,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't remember actually having an opinion, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>here I was at this protest, screaming from the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of my heart. I have come to realize I was

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<v Speaker 1>not screaming for Elian. I was screaming for my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming in frustration that, like Eleane, the same strip of

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<v Speaker 1>ocean separated me from my father. I did not understand

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<v Speaker 1>or really care about the political forces that had caused

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<v Speaker 1>or separation. I only knew that I missed him, that

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<v Speaker 1>I needed him, that I was angry that I could

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<v Speaker 1>not be with him, and so I.

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<v Speaker 6>Screamed, no family issue had to go through what we went,

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<v Speaker 6>just because I'm looking for a better future.

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<v Speaker 7>My brother told me this recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, but we are Cuban, and to be Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>is so often to be separated from their family. Unpenny

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<v Speaker 1>later meets and this is chess peace. The Elian Gonzalez

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<v Speaker 1>Story a production of Putuda Studios in partnership with Ihearts

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Tuda podcast Network. On December sixth, nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Elian Gonzalez celebrated his sixth birthday in Miami. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a week and a half after he had been

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<v Speaker 1>rescued from the sea. He had been staying with distant

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<v Speaker 1>relatives on his dad's side, his great uncle Lasara Gonzalez,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lazaro's twenty one year old daughter Mary Leasis.

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<v Speaker 8>How did he survive by himself when he's only five?

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<v Speaker 8>And the only thing I could probably say that it's

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<v Speaker 8>just a miracle.

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<v Speaker 7>People said.

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<v Speaker 1>She became like a mother figure for Elian. She cared

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<v Speaker 1>for him, making him chocolate milk, something that was so

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<v Speaker 1>luxury in Cuba and that Elean had quickly come to love.

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<v Speaker 1>One journalist reported that Mary Leasis would say to Elian,

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<v Speaker 1>mere Alliancito, your grandmothers cannot make you this in Cua.

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<v Speaker 8>I just want him to be wherever he wants to

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<v Speaker 8>be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Marit Less quickly became the family spokesperson. Unlike her father,

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<v Speaker 1>she spoke English well because she had been raised in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. She was young, passionate about the lean, and

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in front of the cameras.

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<v Speaker 7>I asked him, do you want to go back? You

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<v Speaker 7>mean you know you want to stay here?

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<v Speaker 9>And he said, I don't want to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>She and her father, last Settle, believed Elian's mother died

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<v Speaker 1>trying to give him safety and freedom in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were not alone. Cuban Americans would show up

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<v Speaker 1>at their house demand in the US government let Elean

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the US.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeahmanda.

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<v Speaker 1>People would say it would be a shame to send

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<v Speaker 1>the boy back to communism and hunger in Cuba. At

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<v Speaker 1>his birthday at a local park, Elien was given many

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<v Speaker 1>gifts and a huge birthday cake, but that was an

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<v Speaker 1>Alien's only birthday party in Cuba, his school organized a

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<v Speaker 1>celebration in his absence with a special guest, Fidel Gastro

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<v Speaker 1>himself stopped by. He wore his typical olive green military uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>Alien's father, Juamiel, spoke to his son by phone that

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<v Speaker 1>day to wish him a happy birthday, and they spoke

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<v Speaker 1>as if Alien will be back in Cuba soon.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, that went to Hedi. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>There were protests in Havana marking the week of Alian's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Cubans chanted down with imperialism, socialism, or death. But the

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<v Speaker 1>protest in Cuba did not change Elean status in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>His future was still in limbo. His Miami relatives had

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<v Speaker 1>begun the process to file for asylum for Elian. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Cubans were guaranteed entry to the US if

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<v Speaker 1>they made it to the US soil. But Alian didn't

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<v Speaker 1>technically meet these requirements.

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<v Speaker 11>Because he was rescued at sea and never made it

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<v Speaker 11>to the shoreline. He was a wet foot Cuban national.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bernie Permurter, professor of law at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Miami. He's referring to an unusual American policy at

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<v Speaker 1>the time known as bisco pimojus or wet foot dryfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It allowed any Cuban to legally stay in the US

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<v Speaker 1>as long as they made it to the American shore

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<v Speaker 1>after crossing the ocean from Cuba, literally stepping on dry land.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the dry foot. But Cubans who were captured or

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<v Speaker 1>rescued at sea by the cost guard, they were not

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<v Speaker 1>permitted entry to.

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<v Speaker 7>The United States. That's the wet foot.

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<v Speaker 11>The federal government had taken legal custody of Elianis. I

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<v Speaker 11>said he didn't reach the shore, so he did not

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<v Speaker 11>have the benefit of dry feet landing on the beaches

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<v Speaker 11>of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>So Alien's status under immigration law was not certain, and

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<v Speaker 1>another immigration policy in the US at that time said

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<v Speaker 1>that only a parent could apply for asylum for their child.

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<v Speaker 1>So to immigration officials, Alien's Miami relatives didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>authority to decide the boy's fate.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure I understand what their rights are. These

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<v Speaker 4>were distant relatives.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jim Goldman, former special agent with US Immigration

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<v Speaker 1>and Naturalization Services or ions. We shall say in unusual circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>the law does allow the government to assign a guardian

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<v Speaker 1>to one unaccompanied child, even if there are distant relatives

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<v Speaker 1>or not relatives, but in this case, the government was

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<v Speaker 1>insistent that there was no need to since Elian's father

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him back.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the biological father has more right to make

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<v Speaker 4>decisions for his child at the time was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>five and six years old, more so than anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim thinks this case should have been open and shot, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It became a hot topic because I think the system

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<v Speaker 4>allowed for it to become a hot topic.

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<v Speaker 7>He's right.

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<v Speaker 8>Tensions between the United States and Cuba get hotter every

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<v Speaker 8>day six year old Cuban refugee Ilian Gonzales remains in

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<v Speaker 8>this country.

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<v Speaker 1>The American media system jumped on Alian's story.

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<v Speaker 12>Cuban men, women, and children protested on the streets of

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<v Speaker 12>by the thousands last night. It was the largest turnout

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<v Speaker 12>so far at the third night of protest, orchestrated by

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<v Speaker 12>Fidel Castro.

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<v Speaker 1>It became the biggest story in the country at a

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<v Speaker 1>time when networks competed for wall to world news covers.

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<v Speaker 13>It happens at the same time that we have the

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<v Speaker 13>modern media machine being created, the twenty four hour news cycle,

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<v Speaker 13>the dying of network news, the expansion of cable news

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<v Speaker 13>the need for content.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back and look at some of the news archives

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<v Speaker 1>and it does start to fill at times like Elean

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<v Speaker 1>was treated like content. There were cameras always stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>Ilian outside the Miami home, reporters trying to catch a

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<v Speaker 1>look of him playing ball, being.

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<v Speaker 7>A little boy.

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<v Speaker 14>Relatives of Elian Gonzalez say they saw a different side

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<v Speaker 14>of the six year old, a boy simply filled with

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<v Speaker 14>joy and happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Reporters tried to capture sure every detail of Alian's introduction

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<v Speaker 1>to American culture, like when he went to Disney World

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, where he got a personal hug

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<v Speaker 1>and a baseball hut autograph for Nana Masi Alamenos came

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse himself.

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<v Speaker 14>But Ellian showed some lingering signs of his Thanksgiving ordeal

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<v Speaker 14>and rescue at sea when he went on the It's

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<v Speaker 14>a Small World water rid.

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<v Speaker 1>And the interview request kept coming. Diane Sawyer had a

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<v Speaker 1>playdate with Lean on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>It was probably the biggest media item in the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>if not the world at the time.

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<v Speaker 9>He would go to a party, you would go to

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<v Speaker 9>a restaurant, you would see your family. The talk the

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<v Speaker 9>main subject was Ellian, you know what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 9>to that boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Alina Mayo Assay is a television news bra a seasoned

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<v Speaker 1>news anchor who covered Miami's biggest stories for decades. She

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<v Speaker 1>says nothing at the time could compare to the appeal

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<v Speaker 1>of Alien story.

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<v Speaker 7>It was unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 9>It was our headline story practically every day. It was

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<v Speaker 9>before Alian and after Alian. It definitely marked a line

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<v Speaker 9>and the story and the history of the Cuban exile

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<v Speaker 9>in the United States, especially in Miami.

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<v Speaker 7>But in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>The US media frenzy seemed to make Fidel Castro even

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<v Speaker 1>more upset, and soon Castro will send another stern message.

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<v Speaker 1>We turned the boy in seventy two hours. Fidel's message

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<v Speaker 1>to the US was clear, returned the boy in three.

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<v Speaker 7>Days, only not too el Primian.

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<v Speaker 1>So that the pains of for an on trauma Dipoe

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<v Speaker 1>and his family does not go a mini longer, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and his words were in the only ominous move. Castro

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<v Speaker 1>stationed several dozen Cuban soldiers outside of the US Government

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<v Speaker 1>Intersection office in Havana. This is the headquarters where I

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<v Speaker 1>remember attending government sponsor protests for Elian. I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>tension in the air, the vague sense that there was

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<v Speaker 1>something biggest stake here, something with a lot of biggers.

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<v Speaker 1>To understand why Land's case became such a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to understand the complicated relationship between Cuba and

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Let's start in the early fifties. At

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<v Speaker 1>this time, Cuba was ruled by Fulhenzioatista, who was once elected,

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<v Speaker 1>but whose government had become actually a military dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 10>Six years of surface pastparity and government corruption, of retression

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<v Speaker 10>and police brutality, right explosive discontent.

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<v Speaker 1>Mattista was friendly to US interests, allowing American companies like

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<v Speaker 1>Coca Cola and United Fruit to own a giant amount

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<v Speaker 1>of Cuban land. Workers struggled to survive on low wages

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<v Speaker 1>and oppressive conditions. This inequality ripened the country for the

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<v Speaker 1>ideals of Fidel Castro's revolution.

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<v Speaker 10>Hubert's Fidel Castro emerged triumphant after two years a guerrilla

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<v Speaker 10>warfare against the Batista regime. A revolution that began with

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<v Speaker 10>Castro of fugitive ended with the find of dictator for

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<v Speaker 10>Cenzio Batista and the entry into Havana of rebel forces

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<v Speaker 10>to be acclaimed.

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<v Speaker 4>By the city.

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<v Speaker 1>He and his fighters including a john Argentinian doctor named

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<v Speaker 1>Erneto che Evara, eventually overthrew a Vista and his government.

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<v Speaker 1>Castro and his men were the underdogs. The uprising had

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<v Speaker 1>begun with just eighteen men in the mountains of La

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<v Speaker 1>Sierra Maestra, and it had spread to the whole island.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, the US was not alarmed.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, when Fidel Castro's fighting to depose Battista, he's not

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<v Speaker 8>calling himself communist. Many of the people who were in

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<v Speaker 8>his movement, which was called the twenty sixth of July Movement,

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<v Speaker 8>were young people who were ardently anti communists.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ala Ferrer, the Cuban American history professor at

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<v Speaker 1>Princeton you heard from in episode one.

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<v Speaker 8>But they believed in deposing Batista. They believed in acting

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<v Speaker 8>against government corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen sixty, the new government approved laws that banned

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<v Speaker 1>all foreign ownership of Cuban land, banishing American companies from

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<v Speaker 1>the island and nationalizing their businesses. His government also confiscated

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<v Speaker 1>the line of Ques, who held more than one thousand acres.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Castro's own mother was apparently outraged that her son

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<v Speaker 1>had confiscated their family estate. Castro redistributed this line to

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<v Speaker 1>workers or statecomings.

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<v Speaker 8>They start enacting social reforms like the urban reform, cutting rents,

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<v Speaker 8>and with all these laws that they're passing, they're getting

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<v Speaker 8>enormous amounts of support.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that support came from my own grandparents, who

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<v Speaker 1>got the chance to buy for almost nothing the apartment

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<v Speaker 1>that they were renting before the revolution. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>same apartment where I was raised with my mother thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years after that. Not everyone felt like my grandparents.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, the people whose land is being taken away are

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<v Speaker 8>not necessarily going to support.

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<v Speaker 1>But Castro was well liked in Cuba, not just by

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<v Speaker 1>my grandparents but by many other Cubans.

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<v Speaker 5>So the tor policies in Cuba, doctor Castro, are leading

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<v Speaker 5>to two conditions of great economic difficulty.

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<v Speaker 7>Is this so everybody working?

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody happy?

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<v Speaker 1>In this nineteen sixty one BBC interview, Castro is young, smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>easy going. The journalist wrote that Castro charmed and impressed

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<v Speaker 1>many reporters. When Castro came to power, he promised democratic

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<v Speaker 1>elections will come as soon as the new government stabilized,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the early sixties that hadn't happened. The Cubans

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<v Speaker 1>who left for the United States after Castro had taken

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<v Speaker 1>their land.

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<v Speaker 7>So Castro not for a revolutionary but a despot.

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<v Speaker 5>Some people say, some of your Cuban enemies, says yes,

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<v Speaker 5>people in Miami Americans say that you started a revolution

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<v Speaker 5>to bring in democracy and you have not done so.

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<v Speaker 1>In this part of the video, when the reporter mentions

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<v Speaker 1>ones in Miami, Castro gets a son Ricita his marks

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<v Speaker 1>a little.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you believe that there is no democracy here?

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<v Speaker 15>I'm ensure there is more your question than that.

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<v Speaker 5>In the United States, the most free main man you

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<v Speaker 5>can't find in all America is the Cuban.

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<v Speaker 1>Ada says that in a survey from February of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine, about ninety one percent of the respondents said

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<v Speaker 1>that the new government was doing everything perfectly well, but

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<v Speaker 1>Washington didn't feel this way.

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<v Speaker 8>Here is Ada again, The President and senators and congressmen

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<v Speaker 8>were saying, what is Cuba doing? It's turning communists.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen sixty two, the US had cut diplomatic ties

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<v Speaker 1>with Cuba and declared and embargo forbidding American trade with Cuba,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to create shortages and hunger on the island to

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<v Speaker 1>destitlize Castro's new government. This time Castro had been turning

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<v Speaker 1>into the Soviet Union for help and trade.

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<v Speaker 15>What the United States and self respect can endure that

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<v Speaker 15>lemit has now been reached.

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<v Speaker 1>The CIA also secretly trained some fourteen hundred Cubans who

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<v Speaker 1>had led for the US to invade Cuba at the

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<v Speaker 1>Way of Peaks Lava Yedecuccinos, believing the attack could kickstart

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<v Speaker 1>an uprising against Castro. But the attended invasion failed miserably.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember learning in our history classes in Cuba about

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<v Speaker 1>these early days of Castro's rule, how he created new systems,

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<v Speaker 1>free health care and free education, improving the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>life for ordinary Cubans. I remember some people in Cuba

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<v Speaker 1>saying that yes, their life improved at the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 1>they supported Castro, pretty convinced that great years were ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I didn't learn in school was that from

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, the censorin and self Censorina started, and

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba quickly became a place with almost no freedom of expression.

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<v Speaker 1>Under this new regime, dissidents were often imprisoned and then

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<v Speaker 1>thanks got warse.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a period that follows the fall of the Soviet

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<v Speaker 8>Union and state socialism in Eastern Europe and the Cuban

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<v Speaker 8>economy just tanked almost from one day to the next.

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<v Speaker 8>There was the joke of you know, Cuba, but it

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<v Speaker 8>wasn't really a joke. You know, Cuba just has three problems.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there's a union and mercilla, comedia breakfast, lunch

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<v Speaker 8>and dinner. And everywhere I went, the constant refrain was

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<v Speaker 8>noise fasci. Everyone had the reservation meant that, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was just this constant struggle to live and to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the decades, waves of Cuban's left the island for

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<v Speaker 1>the US flights and votes. There were the fourteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>children who were put on planes to Miami in fear

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<v Speaker 1>that they will be taken away from their families and

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<v Speaker 1>put in communist inductrination camps. That never happened, by the way.

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<v Speaker 8>Then the next wave was nineteen eighty and the Mario

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<v Speaker 8>boat lived in which one hundred and twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 8>people came in the space of about you know, five months.

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<v Speaker 15>Even less, the president has literally opened the floodgates, placing

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<v Speaker 15>no limitations on the number of Cubans entering the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>A decade after Mariel, with the fall of the Soviet Union,

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba entered the years of severe scarcity that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>from my childhood. The Cuban government named it the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Period or Elperio Pessie.

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<v Speaker 8>Then there was the Raftro crisis in ninety four, which

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<v Speaker 8>I think was about thirty five thousand people in the

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<v Speaker 8>space of a few months. But in all those years

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<v Speaker 8>there were people leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time could not leave Cuba together. They

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<v Speaker 1>would decide who had a better chance to leave, save,

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<v Speaker 1>send money, and work hard to help the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the family on the island. There are many families like

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<v Speaker 1>mine and Aliens where a parent or a child comes

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<v Speaker 1>without the rest of their family.

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<v Speaker 8>Family separation is, you know, was a part of the

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<v Speaker 8>story of the Cuban Revolution from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Family separation has become souci a part of the Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>cultural DNA that is actually pretty difficult to meet a

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban who has not been touched by it. And who

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<v Speaker 1>you blame for that separation depends on what side of

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<v Speaker 1>the small strip of ocean between Cuba and Florida you

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<v Speaker 1>are on. Alien's story flooded every corner of life in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember not just attending but watching the protests in

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<v Speaker 1>Havana demanding Elian be brought home. So those Harold Cardinas

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<v Speaker 1>quean journalist and political analyst.

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<v Speaker 2>People in Havanah had to rally all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's impressive when you look at the images of the

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<v Speaker 2>Malecon in Havana next to the sea full of probably

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<v Speaker 2>millions of Cubans. That is an impressive thing. That showed

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity that the Kivan government had back then to

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<v Speaker 2>rally people and to bring them together for a cause.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sure that many of them were strongly encouraged

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<v Speaker 2>in their jobs to join those rallies, but others were

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<v Speaker 2>going because they really believe in it.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt this too.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure there were people there because the protests were mandated,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also saw people who were truly calling for

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<v Speaker 1>his return, outraged that the boy was being kept from

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<v Speaker 1>his father.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, at that age, it's hard to distinguish between the

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<v Speaker 2>real fight of a kid that deserves to be with

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<v Speaker 2>his father and the propaganda and how the governments also

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<v Speaker 2>used people citizens for propaganda purposes. So as a child

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard to distinguish the propaganda.

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<v Speaker 7>On both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>In Cuba, I remember hearing a lot about how Alien's

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<v Speaker 1>father had never agreed that Ilian could be taken to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. How the US was keeping a boy

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<v Speaker 1>away from the rightful parent, another example of the evil

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<v Speaker 1>US Empire. But for Cubans in Florida, this case was

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<v Speaker 1>about freedom and saving a boy from oppression.

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<v Speaker 15>Many of the people, the Qubit Americans in Miami identified

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<v Speaker 15>with the mother and her motivations for doing what she

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<v Speaker 15>did and the fact she lost her life in trying.

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<v Speaker 5>To do this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is former Assistant Secretary of State Petromero. But this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Alien's mother had died trying to reach freedom

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<v Speaker 1>for her son is not as black and white. There

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<v Speaker 1>is some evidence that Alien's mother was going to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States not for freedom, but to follow her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 16>They truly were the Cuban Romeo and Juliet Well.

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<v Speaker 7>She was reputting the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalist and Louis bardak So a five page love letter

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<v Speaker 1>between the couple, and she and others are convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>love was the real motive.

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<v Speaker 16>The reason the mother was on the boat was because

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<v Speaker 16>of her great love for Rafa Muneerum. If Rafa had

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<v Speaker 16>said we're going to Iceland or we're going to Columbia,

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<v Speaker 16>I think she.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have gone with him, regardless of why she got

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<v Speaker 1>on the boat. What do you should know is people

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<v Speaker 1>either identified with Lilian's mom and the US or Alien's

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<v Speaker 1>dad and Cuba.

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<v Speaker 15>Everybody can understand, you know, a child who's a Cuban

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<v Speaker 15>child taken away from you know, the bosom of the

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<v Speaker 15>motherland and all of that stuff, and you know we

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<v Speaker 15>want him back. And yeah, I mean it was it

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<v Speaker 15>was great for propaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>I see how Alian was used by both sides to

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<v Speaker 1>boaster ideology. But mostly when I see Alian, I see

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<v Speaker 1>US Cubans, people who have experienced family separation over seven decades.

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<v Speaker 1>I see my family, my brother Juankey, who now lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami and works as a SWAT paramedic and firefighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people thought that you look like Ilian yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that was my nickname on Fire Academy when

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen, or my English pretty much up. But

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<v Speaker 3>back then it was pretty bad, and that was my

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<v Speaker 3>victim of Fire Academy, Alion Gonzales, you are the littlefees million.

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<v Speaker 7>It is true my brother does look like Alan.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why it's been easier for me to imagine Elean,

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<v Speaker 1>not as a headline, not as a piece of geopolitics

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<v Speaker 1>or history, or even as propaganda. No, I see Elean

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who once was a boy in a new

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<v Speaker 1>and unknown country without his mom.

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<v Speaker 7>Or his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the whole that creates in your heart

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<v Speaker 1>to be separated from a parent. Forces greater than you

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<v Speaker 1>keeping you from them, countries and their policies, politicians and

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<v Speaker 1>their aims, reporters and their deadlines. That's all in the periphery.

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<v Speaker 1>At the center, at the heart of Alian's journey is

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<v Speaker 1>that he was a boy who longed for his parents

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<v Speaker 1>like I once did. Next time on Chess Peace, Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>Cubans and Ilian's relatives start getting angry.

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<v Speaker 4>Elean comes Fidel hasn't gone down.

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<v Speaker 10>Everybody is not happy about that, and by God, Fidel's

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<v Speaker 10>not going to get this trophy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the battle for Elian starts breaking up a family.

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<v Speaker 7>Chess piece.

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