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Speaker 1: It sounded a little like a threat, but the ominous

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Speaker 1: Bring back Ilian to Cuba. This memory surprises me now

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Speaker 6: Screamed, no family issue had to go through what we went,

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Speaker 7: My brother told me this recently.

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Speaker 1: I agree, but we are Cuban, and to be Cuban

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Speaker 1: is so often to be separated from their family. Unpenny

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Speaker 1: later meets and this is chess peace. The Elian Gonzalez

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Speaker 1: Story a production of Putuda Studios in partnership with Ihearts

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Speaker 1: Michael Tuda podcast Network. On December sixth, nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: Elian Gonzalez celebrated his sixth birthday in Miami. It was

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Speaker 8: How did he survive by himself when he's only five?

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Speaker 8: And the only thing I could probably say that it's

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Speaker 7: People said.

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Speaker 1: She became like a mother figure for Elian. She cared

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Speaker 1: One journalist reported that Mary Leasis would say to Elian,

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Speaker 8: I just want him to be wherever he wants to

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Speaker 1: Marit Less quickly became the family spokesperson. Unlike her father,

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Speaker 7: I asked him, do you want to go back? You

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Speaker 9: And he said, I don't want to go back.

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Speaker 1: She and her father, last Settle, believed Elian's mother died

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Speaker 7: Yeahmanda.

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Speaker 1: People would say it would be a shame to send

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Speaker 1: Alien's only birthday party in Cuba, his school organized a

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Speaker 1: Alien's father, Juamiel, spoke to his son by phone that

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Speaker 10: Well, that went to Hedi. Really.

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Speaker 1: There were protests in Havana marking the week of Alian's birthday.

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Speaker 1: His future was still in limbo. His Miami relatives had

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Speaker 11: Because he was rescued at sea and never made it

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Speaker 1: This is Bernie Permurter, professor of law at the University

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Speaker 1: So Alien's status under immigration law was not certain, and

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Speaker 1: So to immigration officials, Alien's Miami relatives didn't have the

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure I understand what their rights are. These

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Speaker 4: I think the biological father has more right to make

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Speaker 1: Jim thinks this case should have been open and shot, but.

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Speaker 4: It became a hot topic because I think the system

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Speaker 7: He's right.

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Speaker 8: Tensions between the United States and Cuba get hotter every

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Speaker 8: day six year old Cuban refugee Ilian Gonzales remains in

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Speaker 1: The American media system jumped on Alian's story.

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Speaker 12: Cuban men, women, and children protested on the streets of

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Speaker 1: It became the biggest story in the country at a

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Speaker 1: and it does start to fill at times like Elean

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Speaker 7: A little boy.

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Speaker 14: Relatives of Elian Gonzalez say they saw a different side

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Speaker 1: Reporters tried to capture sure every detail of Alian's introduction

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Speaker 14: But Ellian showed some lingering signs of his Thanksgiving ordeal

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Speaker 4: It was probably the biggest media item in the United States,

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Speaker 9: He would go to a party, you would go to

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Speaker 7: It was unprecedented.

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Speaker 9: It was our headline story practically every day. It was

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Speaker 7: But in Cuba.

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Speaker 1: The US media frenzy seemed to make Fidel Castro even

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Speaker 1: We turned the boy in seventy two hours. Fidel's message

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Speaker 7: Days, only not too el Primian.

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Speaker 1: So that the pains of for an on trauma Dipoe

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Speaker 1: The CIA also secretly trained some fourteen hundred Cubans who

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Speaker 8: It's a period that follows the fall of the Soviet

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Speaker 8: You know, there's a union and mercilla, comedia breakfast, lunch

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Speaker 1: Over the decades, waves of Cuban's left the island for

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Speaker 8: Family separation is, you know, was a part of the

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Speaker 1: Family separation has become souci a part of the Cuban

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Speaker 1: I remember not just attending but watching the protests in

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Speaker 2: People in Havanah had to rally all the time, and

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Speaker 2: I am sure that many of them were strongly encouraged

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Speaker 2: Obviously, at that age, it's hard to distinguish between the

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Speaker 7: On both sides.

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Speaker 1: In Cuba, I remember hearing a lot about how Alien's

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Speaker 15: Many of the people, the Qubit Americans in Miami identified

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Speaker 1: This is former Assistant Secretary of State Petromero. But this

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Speaker 16: They truly were the Cuban Romeo and Juliet Well.

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Speaker 7: She was reputting the story.

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Speaker 1: Journalist and Louis bardak So a five page love letter

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Speaker 16: The reason the mother was on the boat was because

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Speaker 1: Would have gone with him, regardless of why she got

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Speaker 15: Everybody can understand, you know, a child who's a Cuban

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Speaker 1: I see how Alian was used by both sides to

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Speaker 1: US Cubans, people who have experienced family separation over seven decades.

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Speaker 1: I see my family, my brother Juankey, who now lives

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Speaker 1: Some people thought that you look like Ilian yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that was my nickname on Fire Academy when

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Speaker 7: It is true my brother does look like Alan.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it's been easier for me to imagine Elean,

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Speaker 7: Or his dad.

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Speaker 1: And I know the whole that creates in your heart

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Speaker 1: At the center, at the heart of Alian's journey is

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Speaker 1: like I once did. Next time on Chess Peace, Miami,

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Speaker 1: Cubans and Ilian's relatives start getting angry.

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Speaker 4: Elean comes Fidel hasn't gone down.

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Speaker 10: Everybody is not happy about that, and by God, Fidel's

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Speaker 1: And the battle for Elian starts breaking up a family.

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Speaker 7: Chess piece.

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