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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the Official Coatch Podcast. I am Jeffrey Gorman,

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Speaker 1: joined by JJ Stankobitz. Learra Olverton usually about right here

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Speaker 1: during the podcast, but she is on assignment today. JJ,

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing it to you. The floor is yours. Send

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Speaker 1: congratulations all the way to Philadelphia. The super Bowl has

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Speaker 1: come and gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wrong about that on last week's pot.

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Speaker 2: I thought, I just I don't know, I couldn't go

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Speaker 2: against Mahomes. But it turned out the team that was

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Speaker 2: better one by a lot. The Eagles defensive line like

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about like every defensive coordinator wants

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Speaker 2: to play like that. They want to play rushing for

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Speaker 2: because the stuff that Dick Fangio was able to do

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Speaker 2: with his coverages on the back end was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: that was confusing the Homes, but mostly it was just

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Speaker 2: there getting so much pressure. I think I saw they

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Speaker 2: had like a forty seven percent pressure right in the

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Speaker 2: first half and Mahomes his timing got screwed up, couldn't

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Speaker 2: get the ball out the way that he wanted to.

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Speaker 2: It was that was one of the most impressive defensive

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Speaker 2: performance and says I think in Super Bowl history, if

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Speaker 2: you just look at the box score, you're gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: oh ye, twenty two points, mahme two three touchdowns? Zave

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Speaker 2: you're worthy did all that, But really, the the final

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Speaker 2: score of this game should have been forty to six, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is what it was at the end of the

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Speaker 2: third quarter. Whatever happened after that doesn't matter. But like

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Speaker 2: all the credit in the world to Vic Fangio, he

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Speaker 2: cemented himself as one of the best defensive coordinators in

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Speaker 2: NFL history in my book by what he did on

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Speaker 2: that stage against the Chiefs on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Surprized and I was, But tell me, you're how surprised

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Speaker 1: were you? After it's all said and done, you're watching

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Speaker 1: the game and he called zero blitzes he didn't have

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Speaker 1: to on Patrick Willoms, zero against that offense and that

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Speaker 1: But if you watched it, absolutely right. It just kept

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Speaker 1: kept the pressure where he needed to be relied on

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Speaker 2: This goes back to the whole thing with you know,

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Speaker 2: changing over from Gus Bradley to lou An Arumo here

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Speaker 2: in Indie, where you know, Lo's gonna blitz a little

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Speaker 2: more than gust. But if you can win with four

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Speaker 2: and you can get the kind of pressure that that

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Speaker 2: Philly got and it was coming from everywhere, like Sweatthead

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Speaker 2: an awesome game, Milton Williams, those incredible Jalen Carter Nolan said,

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Speaker 2: like all those guys had great games. If you can

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Speaker 2: get that kind of pressure without sending extra bodies, it's

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Speaker 2: Eagles have. The problem is that's really hard to do.

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Speaker 2: What the Eagles did to the Chiefs. The offensive line

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Speaker 2: So sprinkling in more of those blitzes is beneficial, but

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Speaker 2: you don't have to do it. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: do it over and over and over again. If you

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Speaker 2: don't have to, because you take away bodies from coverage

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Speaker 2: obviously when you blitz, and you know, Vic did some

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Speaker 2: stuff with some simulated pressures, which lou Anarumo is going

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Speaker 2: to do more of here in Indy. But it was

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Speaker 2: more of just hey, look our front's gonna kick your

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 1: To congratulations once again, Big Fangio, Nick Siriani, Colts ties there,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Rodgers and Campbell.

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Speaker 2: He's super Bowl championship?

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Speaker 1: About that?

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about though? Okay, so that's celebratory right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah very much?

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Speaker 2: Can Can we talk about the Hall of Fame stuff?

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Speaker 1: Well, let me get my papers? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You like this is? This is ridiculous. I don't three

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Speaker 2: modern era players get in. They can get up to five.

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Speaker 2: There's no rules saying they have to get five. Why

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Speaker 2: on earth are we doing this? Why on earth are

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Speaker 2: we going to three when you could put two more

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Speaker 2: in the process? Is broken. The fact that Reggie Wayne,

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Speaker 2: with fourteen thousand yards and one of the best playoff

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Speaker 2: just REGGI didn't get in. It was Steve Smith and

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Speaker 2: Tory Holt too. What are we doing right? It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are game changers. I'm with you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: stay on the Reggie tip right now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: with this new system that Reggie gets in anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: That's insane. I know, that's ridiculous. And I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: the new system. I love everybody at the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: They've done great. Mike Chapel is an area, right. We

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Speaker 1: It stinks. The whole thing stinks when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. You know, Deon Sanders said it

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Speaker 1: years ago. Maybe they should have an.

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Speaker 2: Upper deal inner circle. Yeah, deck, this is.

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Speaker 1: Where you put Adam VENITII in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, yeah? Right?

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Speaker 1: Is he playing sixty plays a game? No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: I understand it. But that is a position that he's

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Speaker 1: been doing for decades, and the biggest kicks in NFL

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Speaker 1: history history are on the leg of Adam Venitari being

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Speaker 1: carried off of the field shoulders of giants like he's been.

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Speaker 1: He impacted the game. That is a first ballot Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer at that position. And again, I understand he's

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Speaker 1: in that I know he's not going Noggin to Naggin.

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Speaker 1: I know he's not pressure in quarterbacks, but that position

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to the Hall of Fame voters to not

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Speaker 1: put him in on the first ballot blasphemy. It is broken.

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Speaker 1: I agree with JJ on this. The system needs to change.

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Speaker 1: The Reggie Wanes, the Tory Holtz of the world, and

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Speaker 1: of course the Adam venitaries and we're gonna have this

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Speaker 2: That inner circle idea that Dion Sanders had, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: That's for the first ballot, guys, and that should be

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Speaker 2: you are considered the greatest and your position. So like

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Speaker 2: you think about it, Okay, you want to put ray

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Speaker 2: put in you know, Larry Fitzgerald as an inner circle guy. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Adam Vanity should rise to that as the greatest kicker

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Speaker 2: one that can win you a game or lose you

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Speaker 2: a game. It maybe, like you said, it doesn't impact

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Speaker 2: every single play, but in those moments, you got one

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Speaker 2: did it. He should have been a first ballot guy, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: But I that you can argue, You can argue if

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Speaker 2: Reggie thing is just mind blowing to me. How can

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Speaker 2: you look at Reggie Wayne's resume, his stats? How can

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Speaker 2: you remember watching Reggie Wayne play and say, eh, we'll

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Speaker 1: What what are we doing with this Andre Johnson rings

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson great absolutely, But if he's in and Reggie's

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Speaker 1: not in, and you're telling me again on this Hall

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Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, Reggie's not getting looked in because he

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Speaker 1: greatness on the field. Whether he played with greatness throwing

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Speaker 1: That is another guy that should be.

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Speaker 2: So, like, what, what's the argument against that?

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Speaker 1: Like nothing?

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Speaker 2: He played the great quarterbacks and fourteen thousand yards? Oh

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Speaker 2: what he's He's just wide open all the time because

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Speaker 2: Peyton's throwing him open. It's what it's It's stupid. It's

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Speaker 1: It's a dumb one. And I'm hey, we celebrate the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl came and went, the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: came and went. Tip the hack. Congratulations to the likes

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Speaker 1: of Eric Allen who are in there, Jared Jared Allen,

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Speaker 1: another great guy who's Antonio Gate.

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Speaker 2: It's very deserved. There were two more spots. They could

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Speaker 2: have put two more people.

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Speaker 1: In, and again you missed it on this one.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll do okay. Also, Luke Keikley not being

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Speaker 1: Don't you talked to Mike Chaplin, the Clark Judges of

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Speaker 1: the world. They'd say, the resume is too small.

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Speaker 1: Then again we say, hey, what about Tarrell Davis, a

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. So I'm not there for greatness deserves

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Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame. And that first ballot.

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Speaker 1: That first ballot, like you said, is the key. And

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Speaker 1: Adam BENDITTERI you are a first ballot Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: when it comes to being the best gicker in the history,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But the first ballot you missed on this.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I mean Hall of Fame, there's no

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Speaker 2: good way to do this, Like, I also just want

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Speaker 2: his ballot exactly. Again, just like, what are we doing

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Speaker 2: How can you look at a Hall of Fame ballot

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Speaker 2: at least, you like the case building kind of grows

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Speaker 2: because it's a very public process where you can reveal

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Speaker 2: your ballot and you see vote percentages kind of tick up.

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Speaker 2: Like so you know, okay, maybe at the start of it,

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Speaker 2: Tim Rains wasn't a Hall of Famer. But then as

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Speaker 2: year after year and yeah, let's let me think about

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Speaker 2: him a little bit more, and then he gets in.

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Speaker 2: With this Hall of Fame process, Reggie Wayne's been a

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Speaker 2: finalist every single year, six years. What's there left to debate?

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Speaker 2: Right with the guy, I don't understand that at all.

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Speaker 2: And the process of like you you kind of whittle

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Speaker 2: five or whatever, like that's fine, but I think I

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Speaker 2: think limiting it to five is also a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald first ballot, Yes, do you think he gets

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Speaker 2: He should? Yeah, he will, he will.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The list.

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Speaker 2: Drew Brees, same thing exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And Reggie's gonna go down on that list where

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Speaker 1: I think eventually you'll get in. Man. And I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: it's taking him too long. Took Kedrin six years.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I mean, look at Eric, look at

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Speaker 1: We're going to do our farm. We're gonna watch you

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Speaker 1: How about that? One month from now. So that's the

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Speaker 1: Are guys that are covering the NFL specifically, like you

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Speaker 1: Good question I've gotten before in years past. Has it

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Speaker 2: That actually might mean the Buccaneers are more interested in

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a segment we call JJ's gut. Do the

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Speaker 2: You know, it's still early. If the Colts like any

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Speaker 2: look at the depth chart and you look at who's

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Speaker 2: going to be a free agent, I think it's pretty

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Speaker 2: easy to make that connection to they could be in

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Speaker 2: the market to draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Actually, all right, keep your eyes and.

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Speaker 2: Again not again, not high. You're not drafting the guy

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Speaker 2: to start this year.

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Speaker 1: But you got somebody on the roster and again fourth, fifth, seventh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Chris Ballard's been pretty open, but you want

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Speaker 2: to bring competition into that quarterback room, that would be

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Speaker 2: another way to go about it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, more to come on the combine official you want it.

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Speaker 1: As far as coverage goes, go to colds dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you we were going to be there and

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Speaker 1: JJ mentioned it earlier. Our production team, Kevin behind the camera. Today,

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Speaker 1: you guys will be down there doing a great job

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Speaker 1: getting you ins and outs and behind the scenes taking

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Speaker 1: the curtain aside if you will at the upcoming combine,

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Speaker 1: and again colds dot com will.

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Speaker 2: Have two weeks from now, we'll be on the convention

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Speaker 2: Center floor taping this podcast week.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be fun. Yeah, and again check out

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Speaker 1: colds dot com for the latest. Here we go. We're

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Speaker 1: moving on March tenth at noon, Yeah, to March twelfth,

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Speaker 1: the three point fifty nine pm JJ. That is the

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Speaker 1: free agency negotiating.

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Speaker 2: People, otherwise known as legal tamper.

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Speaker 1: That's right, legal tampering. I loved it. Impending on restricted

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Speaker 1: free agents may enter negotiations. I say it happens before that,

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Speaker 1: but what do I know. I'm not in those rooms,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that period is set aside, and

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Speaker 1: that's when the flux and a big flow of new

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Speaker 1: signings will have.

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Speaker 2: This is really when you know you're not going to

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Speaker 2: see anything from the colts channels because teams have to

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Speaker 2: wait until the new league year to sign contracts, so

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Speaker 2: nothing gets put out until after that. However, this is

473
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Speaker 2: when your shifters, your wrap sheets, your Pella Sero's, your

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Speaker 2: Diana Russini's, all these insiders are going to say, this

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Speaker 2: guy's going here right so, and honestly, usually by the

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Speaker 2: start of the new league gear everyone's kind of been

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Speaker 2: scooped up. Like the big ticket guys and even maybe

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Speaker 2: like that second tier guys, they know where they're going

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Speaker 2: and it's just a matter of putting pen to paper

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Speaker 2: at some point after the new league year begins. So

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Speaker 2: that negotiating window, that's the free agency frenzy.

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Speaker 1: March tenth to March twelfth, You guys will be checking

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Speaker 1: your phones left and right, you getting messages, Hey, you

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Speaker 1: can't believe what Green Bay just did. Hey, Vegas just

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Speaker 1: did this, and.

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Speaker 2: It's literally twenty four to seven. Yeah, like you could

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Speaker 2: wake up at four o'clock in the morning do an

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Speaker 2: Adam Schefter tweeted some earth shattering free agency signing or

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Speaker 2: trade or something like that. So, yeah, you just mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: And pretty much answered my question. March to twelfth, which is,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if you don't know, that, the start

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Speaker 1: the official start of the twenty twenty five NFL League year.

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Speaker 1: And that's important because contractually you're speaking about that that

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Speaker 1: March twelfth is a date where you can then start announcing, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you've been in negotiations the last two days with player

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Speaker 1: X and he is now.

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Speaker 2: A film in the blank. And the only way that

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Speaker 2: you you don't do that is if you're re signing

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Speaker 2: one of your own guys. So if the Colts were

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Speaker 2: to resign anyone during the legal tampering window, they couldn't.

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Speaker 2: We could announce that on like Monday or Tuesday or

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Speaker 2: even Wednesday before four o'clock. That's okay, but trades have

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Speaker 2: to you have to wait until four pm for trades

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Speaker 2: to be executed. I think the most recent one of

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Speaker 2: those was when the Colts traded Rocky Scene for Unique

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Speaker 2: and Gockway. Yes, yeah, and it was like all right,

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Speaker 2: came in at like three forty five, right before the

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Speaker 2: new league year, and it's like got to wait until

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Speaker 2: four thirty to announce it. Not beat that was only

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes. But right again, well, I mean Carson Waittz.

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Speaker 2: You know that was another one of like we knew

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Speaker 2: that was happening. One wouldn't talk about February.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do remember those, Okay, So hopefully none

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Speaker 1: of those are happening this year. March the twelfth, JJ

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Speaker 1: also the start of the twenty five NFL league year.

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Speaker 1: Trades agreed to prior to the start of the new

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Speaker 1: league year, they may be executed. We just talked about that. Actually,

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Speaker 1: chefter will let us know on the tenth. The teams

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Speaker 1: will let us know on the twelfth after they signed

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Speaker 1: their player.

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Speaker 2: But the other part of this too is kind of

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Speaker 2: like I mentioned that, once you get to Wednesday at

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Speaker 2: four o'clock, yep, like that game of Musical Chairs has

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Speaker 2: really slowed down quite a bit. That first wave of

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Speaker 2: free agency usually peters out by that first Friday.

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Speaker 1: Second wave is fun because you go no way, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, the second wave then becomes like after that first week,

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Speaker 2: then you've really even after the first three days. Then

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Speaker 2: you'll see the guys who are going to take visits.

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Speaker 2: Like I remember Stefan Gilmour a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: he was taking his time, he took visits, he took

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Speaker 2: a visit here, and then it wasn't until I think

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Speaker 2: mid April that he signed. The Usually guys who are

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Speaker 2: taking visits are not in any rush to sign at

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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe have a vacation afterwards about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk right the message, And it's usually veterans who

538
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Speaker 2: are going into their third contract or their fourth contract

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Speaker 2: who are like, I want to find the right place

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Speaker 2: for me. And those are the guys like us to

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Speaker 2: find Gilmour a couple of years ago, who are going

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Speaker 2: to take a little bit more time to go about

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Speaker 2: that process. So really, once you get to that, really

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Speaker 2: at the end of Wednesday, it's gonna slow down, and

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Speaker 2: then it's gonna be kind of one here, one here,

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Speaker 2: one here. It's still gonna happen. Yeah, but it's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be this like overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: There'll be some big name veteran still yeah there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: first day, second day, third day after that, even fourth day,

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Speaker 1: even a week and you're like, oh, finally.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, Well finally this guy signed, But.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just in Houston signed with somebody or something like.

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Speaker 2: It's it's more of a trickle at that point.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, How about this one April twenty first,

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Speaker 1: we marched, We jumped from March twelfth, in that unrestricted

556
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Speaker 1: free agent period all the way to April twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: Teams with returning head coaches may begin their off season

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Speaker 1: workout programs. The Colts as of this taping right here,

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Speaker 1: they have not announced those. Do you see any changes

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Speaker 1: in the off season with Shane Stiking going from year

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Speaker 1: two to year three as head coach? And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you just too, is there any change up at

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Speaker 1: training camp in your eyes? Or does that schedule stay similar?

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Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I think it's one that

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Speaker 2: Shane will get asked, probably, if not at the combine,

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Speaker 2: at the owners meetings, or even at the onset of

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Speaker 2: the off season program whenever that is officially announced. I

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Speaker 2: do think that'll be a question of Hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: do you, as you evaluated all this, do you feel

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Speaker 2: the need to change anything and or tweak anything in

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Speaker 2: terms of the schedule, in terms of the the you know,

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Speaker 2: how you're practicing all that stuff. So OTAs are a

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Speaker 2: little more, Uh, there are more restrictions on it and

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Speaker 2: what you can and can't do and the time guys

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Speaker 2: can be in the building. But I do think that's

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be an interesting one, and you know, we'll

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Speaker 2: see how he addresses it when we get there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we keep moving on in the NFL the Farmer's Almanac,

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Speaker 1: if you will, of the upcoming NFL year and rolling

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Speaker 1: into Westfield for training camp in the start of the

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Speaker 1: regular season in mid Yeah. Mid I used to say

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Speaker 1: early September, but about mid September.

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Speaker 2: Could be accurate for the for the regular sea NFL kickoff. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what do you how do you define early September versus mid.

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Speaker 1: September early September up to the ninth. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: after that I go mid and then I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: even at nineteen, I'm going, hey, the later on in February.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. I'm glad you asked me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good clarification there, did work.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's get onto the NFL Draft. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this year it is in title Town, as I have

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Speaker 1: to call it, Green Bay loaded question, JJ, you're in

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Speaker 1: the hot seat here it goes We heard Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: talk at his press conference and say, hey, we ain't close.

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Speaker 1: We're not close right now, we look at it, we're

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Speaker 1: not close with these with this upcoming draft and his

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Speaker 1: draft choices. And I know Ballard has loved to turn

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Speaker 1: you know, seven picks into eleven picks. I know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's absolutely the competition he was

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Speaker 1: talking about bringing in day three guys by the bulk

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Speaker 1: looad for that. My question to you is do you

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Speaker 1: see moving and shaking by Chris Ballard? Do you see

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Speaker 1: wanting to get better production? Do you see hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: moving up in the second, Hey I'm moving up in

605
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Speaker 1: the first, I'm looking at this guy. He said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to make moves. We're not close. Is it

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Speaker 1: going to be business as usual for Chris Ballard to

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Speaker 1: sit back, load up on some picks, get a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys on day three or do you see some

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Speaker 1: action this year?

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget that the Colts tried to do this

612
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Speaker 2: last year. They you know, it.

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Speaker 1: All short, unferstood, please tell it, but.

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Speaker 2: But you know this was in hard knocks. Chris Ballard

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Speaker 2: has talked about this, that they were trying to move

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Speaker 2: up to a top five top what what do the

617
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Speaker 2: giants have six? So that they were trying and that

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Speaker 2: would that would have been a major departure from what he.

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Speaker 1: Has been doing right exactly, so back into what he

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Speaker 1: normally does. Because that that that trade, if you will,

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Speaker 1: didn't go through, so everybody said, Okay, he sat back

622
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Speaker 1: and got some extra picks.

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Speaker 2: Well, kicked back in the second round a couple of picks,

624
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Speaker 2: but then moved up in the third round, So you know,

625
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Speaker 2: you're kind of playing with those picks a little bit.

626
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Speaker 2: Once you get into the out of the first round.

627
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Speaker 2: It doesn't take a ton to move up or move down,

628
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Speaker 2: so you're just kind of playing with those And I

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Speaker 2: do think there's a lot of value and a lot

630
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Speaker 2: of merit to the strategy if you just want to

631
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Speaker 2: accumulate as many picks as you can, because you don't

632
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Speaker 2: know who's going to turn into Isaia Franklin. You don't

633
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Speaker 2: know who's going to turn into a Will Fryes or

634
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Speaker 2: a Jalen Jones, but you want to get you know,

635
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Speaker 2: those kind of swings at those guys, so that there

636
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Speaker 2: is some value to that. But I am interested in

637
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Speaker 2: just this team feels like like there's no one position

638
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Speaker 2: that I'm like, they got to draft that, they got

639
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Speaker 2: to draft that, they gotta draft that. But whatever it is,

640
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Speaker 2: if you can find someone just to be a difference maker,

641
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Speaker 2: and look, this is probably the lamest possible take, Oh

642
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Speaker 2: they need another really good player, but this team kind

643
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Speaker 2: of does. This team's got a lot of good players.

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Speaker 2: I think that with the right, you know, competitive environment,

645
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Speaker 2: I think can continue to be good, maybe a little

646
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Speaker 2: better than that. But do you have that difference maker

647
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Speaker 2: on this team? Do you have I mean, you know

648
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Speaker 2: you can't. It's tough to look at the two teams

649
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Speaker 2: that were in the Super Bowl and say, oh, you

650
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Speaker 2: got to be just like them. But you know, outside

651
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Speaker 2: of quarterback, like, do you have an AJ Brown on

652
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: this team? Do you have a Saquon Barkley? I think

653
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor would have an argument that he could be

654
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Speaker 2: a little close to that. Do you have a Chris

655
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: Jones on this team? To Forrest Buckner is a pretty

656
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: good player. Do you have a guy like I mean,

657
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, Josh Sweat wasn't a superstar certainly, but the

658
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: guy had probably should have won Super Bowl MVP. Like,

659
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Speaker 2: I think the Colts have some guys who are like that.

660
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Speaker 2: I just I wonder if you're just looking at it

661
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: and you're saying at fourteen, because like teams will say,

662
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Speaker 2: we're taking the best player available, right, but that's usually

663
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: a like are gonna take the best player available and

664
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Speaker 2: then needs a tiebreaker. But if you just throw knead

665
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Speaker 2: out as a tiebreaker in this exercise and you're at

666
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Speaker 2: there at fourteen, and it's like, has guy's a really

667
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: good player? We have really good players at this position,

668
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: but you know what we need, We need another one

669
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Speaker 2: and the guy the other best player available at a

670
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Speaker 2: position of need quote unquote, Maybe isn't that I think

671
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: you take the guy who you may not you may

672
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Speaker 2: not have a path to starting as a number fourteen

673
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Speaker 2: overall pick. But if we think you're going to be

674
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Speaker 2: a great player, we want you in the building.

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Speaker 1: Whether regardless of year one. Yeah, and how you're fitting

676
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Speaker 1: into the plans of the said.

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Speaker 2: Team position and all that.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you on that.

679
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Speaker 1: That's going to be fun. So May the first, we're

680
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: going to be moving on deadline for teams to exercise

681
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: fifty year options on twenty twenty two first round.

682
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: That does not apply to the colts that.

683
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Speaker 1: Sayes not apply. May and June. Teams can hold three

684
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Speaker 1: day rookie Mini Camp on one of the first two

685
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Speaker 1: weekends in May, as well as a non padded voluntary

686
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: OTA practice and the veteran excuse me, the veteran mandatory

687
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: Mini Camp will also take place.

688
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Speaker 2: Usually in June.

689
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Speaker 1: In May and June, we're going to be seeing Anthony

690
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Speaker 1: Richardson and the boys back there. The importance of those

691
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Speaker 1: two first of all, the rookie Mini Camp, second of

692
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Speaker 1: all the Veteran Mini Camp and pressing the reset button

693
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. These guys are going to be

694
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Speaker 1: getting together offseason. These guys are going to be getting

695
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Speaker 1: together in the OTAs. But when it comes Veteran Mini

696
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Camp day, you got to be running high on cylinders

697
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: and you've got to be doing it at one hundred

698
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Speaker 1: and ten miles an hour, just like you're in a

699
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Speaker 1: regular season. How important is that period.

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Speaker 2: For the colt I think it's going to be really

701
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Speaker 2: important for setting the stage of what those competitions the

702
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard was talking about, Look like, where are they

703
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Speaker 2: coming from, who are the guys who are gonna do it,

704
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Speaker 2: and how are they picking things up. You know, if

705
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a competition at quarterback, say all right,

706
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Speaker 2: May and June are gonna be really important. Those OTA

707
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Speaker 2: practices are gonna be really important for setting the stage

708
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Speaker 2: of what that looks like, Hey, how it's gonna be

709
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Speaker 2: a new guy right coming in. How is the new

710
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: guy picking it up compared to how Anthony's picking it up?

711
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Speaker 2: Is Anthony making strides because he's not rehabbing anymore? Is

712
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: are we starting to see his arrow turn back up?

713
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Speaker 2: Does the competition have part of that? Is the guy

714
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Speaker 2: who comes in You're like, oh man, this guy, Oh,

715
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Speaker 2: you're starting to sit up in your seat, like, okay,

716
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Speaker 2: this guy who we bring in is really showing something

717
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Speaker 2: like That's where I think you're gonna get the baseline

718
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: going into training camp. You're not gonna decide anything like

719
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Speaker 2: rep counts don't matter, statistics of OTAs don't matter. But

720
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Speaker 2: you're gonna set the baseline of how it's going to

721
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Speaker 2: look once whenever it is in July hits up in Westfield.

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Speaker 1: And something that you didn't talk about that I want

723
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Speaker 1: to talk about briefly is the importance of a leader

724
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Speaker 1: at that time of year. A leader it's a great point.

725
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm serious a leader and we saw Gardner Minshew in

726
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: years past, we saw Anthony Richardson come in with you know,

727
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Speaker 1: but I'm talking about I think this is Anthony's time

728
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Speaker 1: where they say, hey, we're bringing competition and it doesn't

729
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Speaker 1: matter it's I'm talking about quarterback position, Chris Ballard saying

730
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Speaker 1: it whatever. But I think this is Anthony's time that

731
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Speaker 1: offseason and leading up to those those OTAs and those

732
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Speaker 1: mini camps to say, this is my offense, guys, this

733
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Speaker 1: is what we do. I'm the veteran quarterback here, and

734
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Speaker 1: let's go and give the raw ross speeches on the

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Speaker 1: field that are going from you know, first segment of

736
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Speaker 1: practice to second segment of practice. I'm going to be

737
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Speaker 1: looking for that stuff JJ, because you know, it's Anthony's

738
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Speaker 1: job to lose if if for lack of a better term,

739
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Speaker 1: the way that I'm seeing it right now, yeah, it.

740
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Speaker 2: Is, it is, but he is not going to go

741
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Speaker 2: in guaranteed to win it. Yeah. I think that's a

742
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: great point. I think the leadership part of it, and

743
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: that goes for everyone on this team that goes for

744
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: defensively speaking, I mean, you know what DeForest Buckner said,

745
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: is going to ring for a while about how guys

746
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: got a little too comfortable. I got a little bit

747
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: too complacent. How does the leadership on this team combat

748
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: that once they all get back in the building for

749
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Speaker 2: those OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, man can't wait. I mean this is say, soon

751
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Speaker 1: as the Super Bowl ends, brother, we are off and

752
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Speaker 1: running Colt's NFL Draft, first round number fourteenth overall, going

753
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: through the seventh. It's going to fully We're gonna, you know,

754
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Speaker 1: keep you up to date as far as if there's

755
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: any moving and shaking going on here, if Balor does

756
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: stick with seven picks, or he goes up to five

757
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: picks and dumps a couple, or he unloads a couple

758
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: more first, I mean, he could be thirteen, but that's

759
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: gonna be coming around. I wanted to shift into we're

760
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Speaker 1: going to keep you up to data on that again.

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Speaker 1: Colts dot com has the latest and also follow JJ

762
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter x at JJ Stankovitz for the latest Colts

763
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Speaker 1: news that you need. Let's go over some players, some

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Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents. JJ. These are touchy because you develop,

765
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Speaker 1: especially in the media, you develop friendships, You develop comfortability

766
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Speaker 1: with some of these players and boil boy. Some of

767
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Speaker 1: those names are on this list right here. I just

768
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: want to throw some names at you and say, you know,

769
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: is this a Colts guy? Is this a guy that

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Speaker 1: they're going to do what it takes to get him

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00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: back in the locker room, or is this somebody that hey,

772
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna maybe look around a little bit and see,

773
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: because obviously roster changed from year to year, And if

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Speaker 1: I could, I want to start with Danny Pinter, a veteran,

775
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: and Ashton Doolan playing both on the offensive side of

776
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the ball. Are those a couple of guys that you say, hey,

777
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what it takes to get them back there.

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Speaker 2: I think Dolan Dulan's really interesting just because he's more

779
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: of a special teams guy and he's been at that

780
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: guy for a while.

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Speaker 1: And celebrate at that position as well.

782
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Speaker 2: He's a guy who if the Colts weren't to re

783
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: sign him, there will be a market for him as

784
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Speaker 2: a special teamer. Danny Pinter is another good one because

785
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Speaker 2: I was looking at this the Colts have one three

786
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two offensive line snaps hitting free agency

787
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Speaker 2: between Ryan Kelly, Mark Lewinsky, Will Friesen, Danny Pinter. So

788
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Speaker 2: even if you look at this and you say, all right,

789
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Speaker 2: maybe you go into next year with Tanna Bordolini and

790
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: Mat Gonzalvez starting wherever that is, if Bordolini's at center

791
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: or right guard, Gonsolvez is at you know, right guard,

792
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: right tackle, potentially we'll see what happens with Braden Smith.

793
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna still need depth. You're gonna need the

794
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: guys behind them, because if you're elevating the rookies who

795
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: were depth for you, Okay, now you need more depth.

796
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: Are you gonna retain try to retain Will Fries in there?

797
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: Are you gonna keep Danny Pinter around because you trust

798
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: him to come in at a couple of positions? This

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Speaker 2: is this almost feels like I feel like the Colts

800
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Speaker 2: haven't had an offseason where they've had this much uncertainty

801
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: about their offensive line in terms of guys hitting free agency.

802
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be really interesting how that gets handled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right about this offseason in this offensive line, because

804
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: usually it's been you know, rock solids.

805
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and look at look at I mean depth again,

806
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: if you're watching the Super Bowl and you look at

807
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: the Chiefs offensive line depths what they had to do

808
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: with Joe Tooney moving in from left guard to left tackle,

809
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: where he's an All Pro left guard. He's a good

810
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: left tackle, and their offensive line, especially on that left side,

811
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Speaker 2: had a lot of problems. You need that depth and

812
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: you need to have answers there otherwise. You know, I'm

813
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: not saying otherwise you go to the Super Bowl and

814
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: you give up a bunch of sacks. But that's a

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00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: very important spot and one that I do think the

816
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: Colts are going to make a priority to address.

817
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely will be. I think they will do. I don't

818
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: think a draft goes Viralbeller's not going to take a

819
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: peek at the offensive one.

820
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Speaker 2: Which is what you should do. You should be taking

821
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Speaker 2: one of those guys every year.

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Speaker 1: Interesting couple of guys here, Interesting because they played a

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00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: lot of snaps and played a lot of good football.

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Speaker 1: Dio A dangbo ej speed those two together, and obviously,

825
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: like I said, when it comes to snap count, those

826
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Speaker 1: guys didn't leave the field too much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dio, I'm going to be interested with Dio just

828
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: you know him kind of being more of a rotational guy.

829
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Speaker 2: He won from eight sacks last year to three this year,

830
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: but you know, his quarterback hit numbers interestingly stayed the same.

831
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Speaker 2: He had seventeen and twenty twenty three, seventeen and twenty

832
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Speaker 2: twenty four. I'm very interested what the market looks like

833
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: for him because he's another guy too who there is

834
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: a lot of buzz around him in the twenty twenty

835
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Speaker 2: one draft, being a guy who some teams are really

836
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: interested in going to get. Are you gonna have a

837
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Speaker 2: team that says, yeah, we really liked this guy coming out.

838
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: We didn't want to maybe take him because of the

839
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Speaker 2: achilles that he was dealing with back then, or you know,

840
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: we were going to take him if the Colts didn't,

841
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: and now that they will have an opportunity to maybe

842
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: sign him. Interested in what his market looks like. EJ

843
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 2: is going to be interesting, obviously, you talk about playing

844
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: a ton of snaps. He was a starter next Tosire Franklin.

845
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: This year hitting free agency, that's going to be an

846
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: interesting one. You got you on Carlaison the roster. Do

847
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: you look somewhere else? The new defensive coordinator in lou

848
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: Anarumo coming in, how does he view that will linebacker

849
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: position next to Zire Franklin that's an interesting open ended

850
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: question there you just.

851
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Mentioned and open up that can of worms. What does

852
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Anarumo say when he looks at this Colts defense and

853
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: he looks at the work that the Dangbo dead even

854
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: last year before this past season and stuff like that,

855
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: and give him the guy away. Bottom line is this

856
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: that young man from Vanderbilt, He's going to get paid,

857
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: whether it's here or somewhere else JJ. So yeah, that's

858
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: what that's what he is.

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00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: The other thing too, is you know, you look at

860
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: I think I might to talk about this on a

861
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: previous podcast, but when the Cold sim signed Samson Ebicom,

862
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: his career high in sacks was like four and a half, right,

863
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: So what do you do that You're you're one right,

864
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: nine and a half. So just because you're your your

865
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: sack total might have been low for a year, doesn't

866
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: mean you're not going to get paid, right Yeah?

867
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: Sure? And U you know fan favorites too, EJ. Speed

868
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people love. I've seen a lot of

869
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: forty five jerseys out there. Let's keep moving on a

870
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's stay with the quarterback position really quick.

871
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: What we talked about. I'm just gonna go Flacco. Ellinger

872
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: in there, Yeah, what happens there with.

873
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: The I think it's more likely that Ellinger comes back

874
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: than Flacco. I think, you know, if you're looking to

875
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: provide real competition for Anthony Richardson, Joe Flacco can still play.

876
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: This is not a commentary on Joe Flacco not being

877
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: able to play, But I think you're probably looking at

878
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: someone who maybe is a little bit younger to come

879
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: in there and push Anthony to start in a way

880
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: that Blacko. You know, he he had some issues when

881
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: he came in early, you know, facing that gauntlet of

882
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: the Vikings and the Bills. That was not easy obviously,

883
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: but I think you probably will see you know, Look,

884
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: it's easy for me to say they'll get a quarterback

885
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: who's younger to compete with Anthony. That would be everyone

886
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: who's available in free agency. So I wouldn't be tipping

887
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: a single thing if I said that. That's true.

888
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: That's true, JJ moving on a couple of better.

889
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: But Ellen are real quick. The reason why I think

890
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: it's more like he would come back, it would be

891
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: he's got a great rapport with five. He's one of

892
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: the smartest people you ever going to talk to about

893
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: playing quarterback, just like a brilliant person in general. If

894
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: he wants to or go run a company. I mean,

895
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: but he's he should. He's going to stick in the

896
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: NFL for a while. I think he's He's a guy

897
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 2: you like to have a Sam Allinger on your team.

898
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: The question is do you want to keep him around?

899
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: And that might cut off the developmental path of Like

900
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: we mentioned a quarterback who you might draft versus hey,

901
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: we want to keep him around because he's he's good

902
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: to have around Anthony right, you know, so that he's

903
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: going to be an interesting one of what happens there.

904
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: But some team might look at him and say, hey,

905
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: we want you to be R two. That's true because

906
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: you're a you're a really smart guy, and guys like

907
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Sam Allinger of long NFL careers, sir, they do. And

908
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: and I think as long as his tail off too, yeah,

909
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: as long as Sam wants to play, I think he's

910
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: going to be able to play. Yeah.

911
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: Fun. Hey, right now, whether you like it or not,

912
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: there is one Colts quarterback under contract right now on roster.

913
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: That's why we're bringing up so much stuff technically too well,

914
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: with Jason Bean right being the futures contract.

915
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: There, I understand that he's under contract.

916
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: Well, you know that is true, he is there. But

917
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, look through the draft, look

918
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: through free agency. Who knows moving on with some colts veterans.

919
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's let's throw these two. Let's

920
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: throw these two him because they play a similar position.

921
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: If you will, are we keeping you up? That was

922
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: a second yawn today. JJ, you know what this is

923
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: on me? I will? Okay, not doing my job.

924
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: If he's in my in my defense, you're up late. No,

925
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: I was on a solo dad duty all weekend. That's

926
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: he was on vacation.

927
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: You're running crazy?

928
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and just that was a tokathlon every

929
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: week we had. We had a bit of a stomach

930
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: bug issue pop up over the weekend. Okay, so not

931
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: for me, but for one of my kids.

932
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: Understood.

933
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I did not know you had dad duty.

934
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: The amount of fights I had to break up this

935
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 2: weekend between two five year olds was like.

936
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: How many of the penalty box did you throw a

937
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: couple of minute or two minutes or five minute major

938
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: for fighting?

939
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: Honestly, I like I wish I we yeah? We uh?

940
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: I thought about it. Yeah, but mostly it was just

941
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: like you go upstairs, you go downstairs, separate floors.

942
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Give me a minute ago, yeah, exact minute here.

943
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well that.

944
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: Is absolutely Then take a couple more yawns because you

945
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: were Yeah, I need more coffee.

946
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: Let's in here.

947
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: Let's put these players together, one tight end, one great center,

948
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, mo Ally Cox. They both mean a lot

949
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: in different ways to this offense and off of the

950
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: football field, in the community, and love my fans. Obviously

951
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: a couple of favorites.

952
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the It's Kelly is very interesting to

953
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: me because he still has a lot of good football

954
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: left in him. I really do believe that. Do the

955
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: Colts want to get younger on their offensive line with

956
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: a guy like Tanner Bordolini? And I think you also

957
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: have to think about this offensive line, not just for

958
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: this year, but going forward. You're probably looking at you

959
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: probably want to keep Bernard Ryman around. Yep, that's not

960
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: going to be a.

961
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: That'll be a healthy contract.

962
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, left tack right, So you know, could you try

963
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: to bring Ryan Kelly back on a one year contract,

964
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: potentially incentive laden, you know, something like that, just because

965
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: you want that veteran center. But if I'm Ryan Kelly

966
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: and someone offers me a multi year contract, I mean

967
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: he absolutely has earned it.

968
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: He played the good football last year.

969
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: He play good fall. Yeah, that one, you know, and

970
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: you talk about a guy who like you'd love to

971
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: have back just for the relationships he's had and he's

972
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: still here, dude. Yeah, and like the work he does

973
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: in the community. Uh just you know, h the stuff

974
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: that he.

975
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: A horse trap and you go to Ryan kell and

976
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: you go, hey, your offense played like horsecrap. He's gonna

977
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: go hey, and some guys you can't really say that too,

978
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: but he's one of those guys that'll vouch for Yeah right,

979
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: that's what I like about him. Stand up.

980
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really, yeah exactly. Mo Ali Cox, Like I

981
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: understand the the frustrations people have with our tight end

982
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: room here, but including including Moley Cox. However, Mooley Cox

983
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: is still good blocking tight end. He's good at it,

984
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: and you need a good blocking tight end, you just

985
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: you do. You'd love for that guy to also be

986
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: a really good receiver. But mo Ali Cox will find

987
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: work in the NFL blocking primarily, and that's okay. That

988
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: is okay for that to be his role, whether that's

989
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: what the Colts or someone else, he's gonna he's gonna

990
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: go somewhere. You know, he might stay here, he might

991
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: go somewhere else, and he's gonna be an integral part

992
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: of a team's offense because of what he can do

993
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: in the run game. He will be, And if you

994
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: don't have him back, you're gonna need to figure out.

995
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Who's filling it. Right?

996
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: How do you that? That's a problem that has a solution, certainly,

997
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: and it has multiple solutions from a coaching and schematic standpoint.

998
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: But if you don't, if you take away your best

999
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: blocking tight end, you're gonna have to figure out a

1000
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: way to either bring another guy in, bring a guy

1001
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: up to be that level, or figure out a different

1002
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: way to run the football.

1003
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: Well, I always like an extra left tackle out there,

1004
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: right tackle up that are sometimes playing on that Yeah

1005
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: on the.

1006
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: Screen like yeah, he's he's good.

1007
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: It's valuable and really quick I think and correct me

1008
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. You're gonna know this better than I am.

1009
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: Am I right when I said thirty nine complete thirty

1010
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: nine total receptions for.

1011
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: The tight end room something like that.

1012
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in that ballpark JJ, I'm asking you right

1013
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: now there's snow on the ground. Well not really, but

1014
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: there will be soon. But we're in the off season.

1015
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: Will that offensive will the offensive tight end room of

1016
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: the Colts have more than thirty nine receptions in the

1017
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season. And I know everybody's been saying, oh,

1018
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: first round tight end, if he's available to I'm just talking.

1019
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't care about all that as a whole, where

1020
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: there'll be thirty more than thirty nine receptions?

1021
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1022
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: Needed?

1023
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: Correct?

1024
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I.

1025
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Mean if not, that's that's concerning.

1026
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's needed. I mean we need more than thirty nine.

1027
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: I have a collection of four guys.

1028
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, let's just see real quick here,

1029
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm just gonna go to receiving leaders this year. Man, Wow,

1030
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: this site is tough to read. This is great podcasting here.

1031
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: I didn't have this pulled up.

1032
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: All right, we got tired, you guys, go grab a soda.

1033
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, old on, I got I got it here.

1034
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: Let's see qualifying leaders for receiving a man, you know

1035
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: what I was trying to find with how many tight

1036
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: ends had more receptions than the entire cult roster. I

1037
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: just scrolled all the way down to one hundred and tenth. Overall,

1038
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: this is just among receivers, so tight ends, running backs,

1039
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: and wide receivers. Brenton Strange with the Jaguars had forty.

1040
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: Jordan Akins with the Browns had forty. No agree with

1041
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs had forty. These are all tight ends who

1042
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: had more receptions on their own than the Colts had

1043
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: last year. Those guys would be tied for one hundred

1044
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: and tenth out of one hundred and ten pass catchers.

1045
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: Ray, I mean sitting behind Gronk in case Kelsey, I'm

1046
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: sitting behind Kelsey and geezeh TJ.

1047
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Hockinson played like half a season. He had forty one.

1048
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I see that. Yeah, I see that.

1049
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: You had some. You know, Tony Pollard on the Titans

1050
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: had more receptions forty one running as a running back.

1051
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's got to be higher, and I

1052
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: think it will be.

1053
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: I think it would. I think you're right. I think

1054
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Shane Steak and Stiking in the offensive staff will well,

1055
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: we'll address that. What's going on. Obviously, who knows what

1056
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: the Colts do in the upcoming draft or free agency,

1057
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: but I think you're right on that, one, just a

1058
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: couple more to go on. They're all veterans. Give me

1059
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: your take on Julian Blackman wearing a horseshoot next year.

1060
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we kind of. We talked about him previously.

1061
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: I was curious if lou Anaruma was gonna think about

1062
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: keeping it around because he does have a little bit more,

1063
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of range as that kind

1064
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: of center fielder free safety. He's got the veteran experience

1065
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: back there. I wonder if a team sit him and says,

1066
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: you were really good at strong safety, maybe we want

1067
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: to bring you in there. So he's going to be

1068
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: an interesting case there. And obviously you played it basically

1069
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: the whole season.

1070
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: Hurts you mentioned it before, but it's important the offensive

1071
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: line in the NFL. I mean it's one of the

1072
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive line. The Will Fries thing. Man, I

1073
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: just want you to touch on that real quick because

1074
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: talk about a great guy, great off the field guy

1075
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. You and I know him well

1076
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: and talk about this guy. He's just a guy. But

1077
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Speaker 1: boy boy, he's going to command a high dollar this year.

1078
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: And what do you think, what do you think with

1079
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: the style that he came where he came out of

1080
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: Penn State. How he plays a position, he's a large man.

1081
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: Is that worth the investment coming off that injury?

1082
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: I think he brings a certain like mean streak to

1083
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: your offensive line that you really like having, especially out

1084
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: of an interior guy like I love just an interior

1085
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: you know, mauler, a guy like in Quentin Nelson's same

1086
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: thing right where he's not just going to get you

1087
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: to the ground, He's going to keep you on the ground.

1088
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: He's going to keep shoving you so you stay on

1089
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: the ground. And that's what Will Fries does. He is

1090
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: just a mean football player. He's physical as all hacked

1091
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: like a guy who I respect so much for how

1092
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: he's built his career and I have also I have

1093
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: no doubt he's gonna come back from the knee uh better. Yeah,

1094
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: like the work he'll put in and I know he's

1095
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: putting in right now. Yeah, I have no doubt he's

1096
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: gonna come back better than ever.

1097
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: From that one fact. Outstanding fisherman Will Fries. If you

1098
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: guys are liking of the fish, check out his social

1099
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: media pages. All right, JJ, that's it. We kind of

1100
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: ran through the offseason. What's gonna happen the important dates

1101
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: some impending free agents, if you will. My last question

1102
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: is before we wrap this up, is put yourself at

1103
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: the NFL owners meetings. Okay, I like it, which are

1104
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: coming up? When's the exact date that.

1105
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 2: You market thirtieth three April second in the.

1106
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Next six weeks. Yes, in that time, you're gonna be

1107
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: sitting down with Shane Stiken. You're gonna be sitting down

1108
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: with Chris Ballard at these NFL Owners meetings. Be sure

1109
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: to check it out. It'll be on his socials as

1110
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: well as Colts dot Com. A couple of questions that

1111
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: you'd really really like to start with with those two

1112
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: gay yeas, what are they for the head coach? In

1113
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: your eyes?

1114
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: For it would be, you want to know, it would

1115
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: be how do you get better quarterback play? And you

1116
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: know that's not going to be the question, you know,

1117
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: straight up, hey, but that's kind of how you what

1118
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: you want to get to the heart of of For

1119
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 2: all the issues the Colts had last year, the thing

1120
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: that probably held them back the most was the lack

1121
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: of consistent quarterback play. You had these high highs that

1122
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: you got from Anthony Richardson, and you had some very

1123
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: low lows. How do you get it to be more

1124
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: consistent where you eliminate these ones down here and you

1125
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: kind of bring it up. Not every game is going

1126
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: to be perfect, but you know, I looked up a

1127
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: stat by Pro Football Focus Anthony Richardson had inaccurate income.

1128
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: I think it was thirty three point seven percent of

1129
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: his passes were deemed inaccurate and uncatchable. Some of those

1130
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: are throwaways, but though you can't have that, that is

1131
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: that was the highest mark in the league. I think

1132
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: was the highest second highest mark in the last five

1133
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: years that Pro Football Focus charted. So, like, you got

1134
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: to get that up. How do you get there? Is

1135
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: it through competition, is it through specific things? Is it

1136
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 2: through designing the offense to look a little bit different.

1137
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: Is it leaning in more to his run ability like

1138
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: you saw after he came back from being bench. So

1139
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: that's kind of the top of mine question for Shane Steichen.

1140
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: Number two, Chris Ballard, sitting right across from you at

1141
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: the NFL Owners meetings, what's your first instinct? What's your

1142
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: first instinct? You a question you want to ask.

1143
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: I think it'll be coming off a free agency and

1144
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: curious how he felt like he addressed those issues that

1145
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: he brought up in January of competition, of a little

1146
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: bit of complacency, and how do you feel like you've

1147
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: made this roster more competitive? Do you feel like you've

1148
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: lit a fire under this roster?

1149
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Good?

1150
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: And you know, you hope the answers of those are

1151
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: going to be yes. But the only way that we're

1152
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: going to know if they're yes or no, though, is

1153
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: how it plays out during training camp and then into

1154
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: the regular season. But yeah, I think that that's kind

1155
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: of what you're thinking right there.

1156
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: Is watch this one throw a curveball. I don't think

1157
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: you can hit this one, okay, but I'm gonna throw it.

1158
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: Jim Irsay shows up at the NFL Owners meetings. Hey, JJ,

1159
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 1: mister Irsay has five minutes over in the vestibule over there.

1160
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: What's your first question to the boss man?

1161
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it. It's gonna go to the statement

1162
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: that he put out right after the season ends, and

1163
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: let's let's talk about it. What have you seen from

1164
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: these two guys that you put your faith into again?

1165
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: Right?

1166
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: That tells you they are they're rewarding it. They're they're

1167
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: rewarding that faith. They are the right people to fix

1168
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: this because I think by the end of March you're

1169
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: gonna have an indication where this roster is going.

1170
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good stuff. Appreciate you doing this. I put

1171
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: them on the spot. I did. I put them Okay,

1172
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: all right, so that little bit I put him on

1173
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: the spot a little bit.

1174
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: You know, you're dropping a yaker right there after. It

1175
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: set me up with a high fastball. So you change

1176
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: the eye level, you drop the curveball in there.

1177
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Bro, I haven't thrown the NUTSI yet. I'm gonna drop

1178
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: a knuckleball on you and.

1179
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: See if you have a knuckleball. Very good curveball. I

1180
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: mean tim wakefielders.

1181
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: But my repertoire is just every I can throw heat

1182
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: on the inside, I can dash it up. Yeah, a

1183
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: little scroogey here, but no, that's gonna be fun. The

1184
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: NFL owner meetings are coming up. I appreciate you playing

1185
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: along with me right now and more importantly right here,

1186
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: Slow clap for you, buddy. Long weekend with the kids,

1187
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: mom gone, you were the go to guy. That's not

1188
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: That's an exhausting weekend and it was a super Bowl to.

1189
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: Boot, mostly exhausting because it was so cold out. We

1190
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: couldn't get outside.

1191
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. But you were the

1192
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: referee stopping some some disagree.

1193
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Letting some go, letting some not. Yeah.

1194
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Good.

1195
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard to know when to like tag

1196
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: in as like a wrestling referee when it's like, is

1197
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: this getting a little too violent? Only one, only one

1198
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: kid came out with like a bruise on his cheek.

1199
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: That's because he got shoved off a couch, right, Not

1200
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: by me, not by you, not by me, by his brother.

1201
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: That your yeah, that was yeah, that was by the brother.

1202
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 2: So it happens. Boys'll be boys.

1203
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Good job. We're gonna have more coming from you in

1204
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. Obviously, JJ talked about it.

1205
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: The NFL Combine is right around the corner. This is

1206
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: just a loose list of what we're gonna be looking

1207
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: for in the next couple of weeks and months leading

1208
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: up to coach being back in this building. If we're

1209
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: OTAs and getting together as a as a group again,

1210
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: But it all does start at the combine. We're gonna

1211
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: bring be bringing you some live stuff from down there, obviously,

1212
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: like JJ talked about, we'll be doing that in two

1213
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: weeks from now. But we're gonna keep you up to date. Man.

1214
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: This is twenty twenty five season, and you know officially

1215
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: over with now. Philadelphia is your champion. The Skies are blue,

1216
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: and this arrow is pointing upwards. I've said it for years,

1217
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: but it is. It's a good way to start, and

1218
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: we got the guys in place right there and getting

1219
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: better through the draft and NFL free agency and guys

1220
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: like this will be bringing it to you anything that

1221
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: happens in Cultnation. Kevin behind the camera, appreciate your help today.

1222
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: For JJ Stankobitz. Larra Overton will be back next weekend.

1223
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Be sure to follow JJ on Twitter

1224
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: X at JJ Stankovitz. For JJ, I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Thanks

1225
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: for listening, and we'll talk to you in about a

1226
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: week from now.