WEBVTT - Dave Grohl 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.680 You know what I had for dinner last night? At what? 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:07.640 Two microwaveable hot dogs in a guinness. Oh my god, 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:13.280 nothing has changed. I've known you since the nineties and 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.639 nothing has changed. Why should it wait, Dave? Do you 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.560 remember that there was that place that you had a 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.360 Laurel Canyon and one night one of your roadies fell 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:29.160 asleep for the eating. That house was so old that 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.760 the only heating vent was right in the front door 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.519 of the house, and he fell asleep in the hallway. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.839 Our drum tech, John John, was sleeping. He was so cold, 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.040 so he took my jacket, put it over this massive 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.000 heating then and fell asleep on it and woke up 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.840 on fire. That's right, I remember that. Remember those were 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.160 the days. Well, by the way, the barbecue in Laurel Canyon, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.040 which sounds really fancy, but at that house where you're 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.480 having the barbecue, it literally what you had microwave for 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.280 dinner last night. It was like a couple of gorn 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:09.120 dogs and like twenty four beers. It was Hello, I'm 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:13.280 mini driver, and welcome to many questions. I've always loved 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.000 Pru's questionnaire. It was originally an eighteenth century parlor game 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.440 meant to reveal an individual's true nature, but with so 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.120 many questions, there wasn't really an opportunity to expand on anything. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.640 So I took the format of Pruce's questionnaire and adapted 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.320 what I think are seven of the most important questions 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.319 you could ever ask someone. They are when and where 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.160 were you happiest? What is the quality you like least 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:43.600 about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:49.320 What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.560 or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.400 your last meal? And can you tell me something in 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.360 your life that has grown out of a personal faster 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.120 The more people we ask, the more we begin to 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.200 see what makes us similar and what makes us individual. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.239 I've gathered a group of really remarkable people who I 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.440 am honored and humbled to have had a chance to 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.680 engage with, and today I am talking to Dave Grohl. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.160 I first met Dave when his band Food Fighters were 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.880 the live music at the FSACHI Runway show in New York. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.560 I was dressed in white from head to toe. It 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.919 was a slightly futuristic look, high collared, stiff fabric. Dave 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.520 said I looked like ziggy Star, Dust's dental hygienist and 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.280 our friendship of twenty three years was born. For all 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.480 his many achievements, at heart, to me, Dave is one 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:48.560 of our most profound storytellers. Nirvana was legendary, it defined 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.799 and created an entire genre of music. But for me, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.200 Food Fighters and the myriad side projects Dave always has 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:59.919 in play speak to an ongoing, restless exploration of creative evel. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.880 I've never met a person who literally and figuratively refuses 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.480 to sit still as much as Dave, and to me 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:15.840 it's genuinely what makes him great. The first question is 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.000 where and when were you happiest? Well, I hope that 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.440 I haven't been my happiest yet. I have lots of 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:30.040 very fond memories. I think I've been happiest more than 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.120 a few times. But you know, I think you find 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:38.400 different versions of happiness. I find a lot of happiness everywhere, 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.120 even in the unhappiest times, because I sort of search 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.000 for it. Do you mind for happiness? Is that something 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.920 that you consciously do? I do. I'm a little bit 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.480 more of a big picture type. I try not to 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:58.120 get caught in crisis so much that I can't see 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.200 outside of it. So if I'm deep in it, I 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.400 stopped and remind myself of the big picture. Was that taught? 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.800 Was that from your amazing mother or was that how 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.120 evil was rolled? I'm sure that it's taught in some way, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.799 maybe like inadvertently. Yeah, I'm you know. I was raised 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.920 by my mother, single parent. My parents split up when 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.320 I was I think six years old, seven years old, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.400 something like that. So my mother raised me in our 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.120 tiny little house, and she was a public school teacher, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.000 and we didn't really have money, and sometimes the heat 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.440 would get turned off, and the phone would get turned off, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.919 and the lights would get turned off, and we'd have 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.760 scrambled eggs for dinner and things like that. But my 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.240 mother was really good at making us feel like we 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.880 had enough all the time. So I had a really 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.480 happy childhood. I didn't have much, but I was happy, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.880 and that really did come from my mother. It was 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.960 as simple as going to a jazz club on a 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.159 Sunday with my mother and realizing that, oh, she's cool 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.479 and we're friends, but she's my mom. My friends don't 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.919 hang out with their parents. From an early age, I 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.520 felt like you play the hand that you're dealt and 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.880 that's kind of it. And there's no use in wishing 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.720 against things you can't change, you know. And so when 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.280 I would be in the middle of crisis or an 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.760 uncomfortable situation, I would always try to remind myself of 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.080 the big picture. I'm sure it goes back to my childhood, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:32.960 but I still feel that way, you know. I think 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.080 you also set your own bar in a way. You know, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.839 some people are perfectly happy sitting on their couch playing 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.280 video games for twelve hours a day. Other people are 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.920 only happy when they're skydiving. Yes, and so it's relative. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.839 I like your spectrum Gears of War to jumping out 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.720 of an airplane. I mean, to be honest, I'm sort 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.520 of both, you know. Like I could be perfectly happy 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.960 sitting on a couch with two hot dogs in the 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:07.279 Guinness watching Dumb and Dumber again, you know, or perfectly 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:12.920 happy running on stage at Wembley Stadium and conducting eight 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.680 people to sing a song with me. So like those 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.320 two things, you know, you walk off stage and you 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.280 you're like, oh my god, the adrenaline. It's like skydiving, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.680 it really is. It's a bungee jump. But then I'm 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.880 just as happy you know, sitting in traffic and listening 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.479 to Bill Withers or whatever. And I think it's just 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.960 because you have to be open to it. My dear 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.520 friend and love of my life, Pat Smir, who plays 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.920 guitar in The Food Fighters, he is the most amazing, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.799 beautiful person because he has this contagious sense of reassurance 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.680 where even in the worst fucking tragedy, you can look 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.000 at each other and laugh, like, how much more absurd 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.200 could life be? You know, the ups and downs of life, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.320 and and the range of that dynamic. You know, when 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.440 things are at their peak, you look at each other 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.440 and you're like, oh, my fucking god. When things are 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.360 at the bottom, the lowest of the low, you look 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.320 at each other and you just go, oh, my fucking god. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.680 It's strange, though, because I was just talking about this 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.800 the other day. We have a song called Waiting on 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.760 a War that just came out, and I wrote the 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.120 song about a year and a half ago. I wrote 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.920 it and when I was young, growing up outside of Washington, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.440 d C. My greatest fear was war. In the early eighties, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.120 when there was political tension and it was Russia and 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.160 it was Reagan and there was just this anxiety of 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.560 you know, conflict and conservatism, and being so close to Washington, 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.960 d C. I always thought, Okay, there's going to be 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.920 a war and we're going to be the first ones 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.320 to get it because this is the nation's capital. And 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.360 I was kind of obsessed with it. And then a 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.480 year and a half ago, I was taking my daughter, Harper, 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.440 who's eleven years old, to school. I'm driving her to 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:59.960 school and she turns to me, she goes, Dad, is 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:04.000 there gonna be a war? And it broke my heart 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:10.320 because I thought she's now living under this like dark 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:15.440 cloud of a hopeless future. Forty years after I did 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.720 the same thing, I felt the same as she did, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.800 and I was heartbroken. I'm like, you know, her childhood 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:28.040 is being stolen from her by this fear of war. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.880 And I immediately wrote the song and I wrote it 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.600 for her. And I'm only mentioning this because I did 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.080 have this weird, nihilistic, pessimistic side to me as a kid. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.000 And it's unfair, like, it's so unfair. Why should anyone 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.240 go through it? But children, you know, God forbid, they 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.920 turn on the fucking television and see what's going on. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.520 I'd rather have her listen to the song because in 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.400 the song, I say, you know, I've been waiting on 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.440 a war since I was young? Is there more to 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.880 this than just waiting on a war? Because God? Anyway? 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.959 So I did have this pessimistic side to me when 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.600 I was a kid, but I sort of counted it 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:11.040 with this maybe naive optimism where I would just think, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.719 I know, but birds sounds are pretty, you know what 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.120 I mean? Like I would just like get on my 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.000 skateboard and crawl through the sewers and be like, yeah, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.880 you know, I don't know. I think the answer the 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.920 question that you asked fourteen minutes ago, yes, I mind 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.000 for happiness because I think you have to live with 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.800 a sense of hope and you have to be able 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.480 to find goodness and happiness even in the worst times. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.360 I couldn't agree with you more. And I actually think 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.320 the worst times thrown too relief what is good and 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.000 what is meaningful and actually helped define happiness a lot 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.520 better than happiness itself. You've got to find it, you 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.120 look for it. I think you're right, you have to 0:09:53.120 --> 0:10:13.839 make the effort. Okay, So next question, what relationship, real 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:19.680 or fictionalized defines love? Fear? Well? The relationship with my mother, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:24.160 no question. Yeah. You know, as as a parent, you 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.160 understand that the love that you received from your child 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.400 is just, it's incomparable, It's unlike any other love, and 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.520 the same thing to be said for your relationship with 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.120 your parents. So I've always said her like, that's the 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.800 one because you know, not only was I had given 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.079 this unconditional love, but I was also I was given 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.560 so much more. I was given freedom. She disciplined me 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.600 with freedom, if that makes any sense. She really did. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.040 We were so close, and I had so much respect. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.199 Why I still do. I still have so we're still close. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.960 I still have so much respect for that. The last 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.559 thing I would want to do is disappoint her, because 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.000 I didn't want to jeopardize not only our relationship, but 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.520 your freedom. So she was like, you know, okay, you 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.160 could listen to satanic death metal. It's funny. I'm interested 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.560 in what I think. The only way of being a 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.040 good parent is being cognizant of what it is we 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.240 took from our parents. Both good question. First of all, 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.000 if you believe any of this, I have a bridge 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:28.560 to sell you. How about that? But then I mean no, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.880 I mean, of course, that's the foundation. My mother wrote 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:36.560 this book about mothers of musicians right four years ago, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.240 and she interviewed all these different mothers. She interviewed Dr 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.800 Drey's mom, she interviewed for Rall's mom, she interviewed Michael 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.200 Stipe's mother. She interviewed like fifteen or twenty different mothers. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.760 It was interesting because there were parallels. A lot of 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.679 the experiences were the same, some of the relationships were 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:59.680 a bit different, the mother child relationships. But ultimately you 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:07.360 have to imagine that that relationship is your first love, right, 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.040 and if you become an artist, typically love is your 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:17.000 greatest muse. Like that's not only the foundation of who 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:18.880 you are and what you become in the relationships you 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.800 have with other people, but it also you know, it 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.400 becomes your lens. So that's how you see the world, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.840 you know, whether it's in a dark, tortured focus or 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.400 it's something more romantic. And like, I mean, a lot 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:35.079 of that is that that foundation is laid by your 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.480 first example of love, and that usually comes from your parents. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.240 I remember asking her once about being a teenager in 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.679 rural Ohio and the forties in the late forties, and 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.559 um I was asking her about peer pressure, if she 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.440 had any sort of like social anxieties, and she said, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.319 she said, I never really compared myself to anyone else. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.920 And I thought, that is the greatest nugget of wisdom 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.200 my mother has ever dropped in my stocking. It was like, like, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.880 I've never compared myself to anyone, and what a perfect 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:14.480 way to be. It's extremely evolved to be able to go. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.199 I never compared myself to anyone, not the notion that 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.880 anyone is better or worse, but rather I am myself. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.800 That's a good person to teach you what the scaffolding 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.480 should look like, around your life, around love, around the 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:34.480 way we see ourselves. I love your Mom's cool. Okay, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.920 what question would you most like answered? The thing about UFOs? 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.640 Does you want like the Kennedy thing? I mean, you know, 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.680 and then there's the thing about like the Big Bang 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.800 and God and whatever. I'm more into the uf I'm 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.880 with you. I went out My sister worked at Ben 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.520 and Jerry's in Provincetown when I was sixteen, and I 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.560 won't to spend the summer with her, and I went 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.320 out to those dunes every night looking for the UFOs, 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:11.040 and one night, I know one night, this guy gave 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:16.640 me something to smoke and I saw the goddamn your bugs. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.680 It was super cool because the next day, when I 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.080 worked in the ben and Jerry's with my sister, I 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:26.720 was like, listen, the UFOs are for real, And because 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:32.440 I was so English, they all believed me. Oh, I 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.160 love that. That's what you want to know. No, but really, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.640 I mean when I was young, I don't know why 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.760 or how it started, but I would do that thing 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.200 where I would lay in my front yard and just 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.720 stare at the sky. When you weren't thinking about their 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.280 being a war that was going to wipe you out. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.240 I'm sure of course you thought that there were aliens 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:50.960 who might possibly be there to come and save you. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.680 I mean, I still the scrange. Please, Mr Freud, I 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.880 have to be honest. But no, the uf Here's the 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.880 funny thing about the UFO A thing. So since I 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.640 was young, Like when I was young, I'd like lay 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.120 in the front yard and I'd be like contact me 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.040 where I never saw anything weird, but I'd have these 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.520 amazing dreams. First of all, I'm in a crazy vivid dreamer. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.040 I remember dreams from when I was for four years old. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.240 I remember dreams from when I was eight years old 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.560 and fourteen years old. I still vividly remember them. I 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.000 can see them in my mind. I had these crazy 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.840 UFO dreams where I'm like walking on a hill in 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:31.120 somewhere in Italy on the coast, and it's at dusk 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.440 and right as the stars are coming out, and there's 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.040 people walking around. It's a beautiful night, and all of 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.040 a sudden, the stars just like implode and the sky 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.160 is filled with UFOs and there's these things being projected 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:47.000 in the sky explaining the evolution of man. But it's 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.600 it's not sound. It's like telepathically being explained to you 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.920 in your mind. And then a map of the world 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.800 and how like all the territories have been redefined, and 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.560 like crazy stuff like that. But here's the thing. I 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.600 remember once going to a psychic. I wasn't going to 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.040 the psychic for me. I was dropping off my girlfriend 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.240 at the time. At the psychic. This is in Sydney, Australia, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.320 and someone said, there's this French woman in this apartment 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.920 complex outside of Sydney. She's the real due. She'll know 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.080 you're coming right so you don't even knock. So I 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.840 drop off my girlfriend and she has this horrible reading 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.600 and then I walk in and the ladies like no, no, no, no, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.120 sit down, sit down. Oh she only speaks French, so 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.840 my girlfriend, who also spoke French, was translating. So I 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.000 sit down and she's like, oh, you have a lot 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.160 of energy. And I'm like, I know, I'm a spa 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.160 as I've had a lot of coffee. And she's like, no, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.680 you have a lot of energy. Like your hands they're 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:46.360 they're like glowing, and I'm like, fuck, yes, this is amazing. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.160 My girlfriend was just told like our relationship is not 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.960 gonna work, blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.880 now she's got to translate this this the psychic who 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.160 is saying like, you have psychic power. But the best 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.600 the best part was she goes, do you see ghosts? 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.760 And I said, now, I mean I lived in the 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.760 house that had like creepy things, that the vibe was weird, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.439 But now I don't see ghosts. I said, I have 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:17.399 dreams about UFOs and she goes, those aren't dreams. I 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:30.400 was like, yes, killer, what person, place, or experience most 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.080 altered your life? I would have to say the first 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:38.040 time I saw a band play on a stage. Who 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.199 was it? It was a punk rock band. Actually, I 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.480 had never been to a rock concert, and it was 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.240 a band called Naked Reagun. They were like an infamous 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:52.159 punk rock band from Chicago. And I can't think of 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:58.440 anything else that that changed or formed my future then 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.800 that moment, I was in this like you know, dark 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.400 bar that smelled like bleach and beer, and then these 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.240 four guys walk on stage and ripped jeans and like one, two, three, four, bam, 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.040 and they started playing, and like my chest was against 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.960 the stage and their sweat was on me and their 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.560 spit was on me, and I was getting thrown around 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.159 um by people with like mohawks, and so I was like, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:23.920 this is what I'm doing for the rest of my life. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.920 In between the ages of like eleven and thirteen, it's 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.960 a really formative age because you're discovering independence. You're no 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.080 longer just a child that needs to hold someone's hand 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.560 when they crossed the street. So you're kind of discovering 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.760 who you are, and at that time you sort of 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.880 connect to things that become your identity. Right, I'm really 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.840 into football, So then you started playing football, but with music. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:49.760 If the hooks get deep enough that they sort of 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.800 like catch that newly introspective part of your identity. Oh, 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.520 so now you have somewhere to put it, Like, Oh, 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.080 I'll pick up a guitar and I could put it there. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:00.600 I could pick up a drum as I could put 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.800 it there. Wait, were you already a drumma when you 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:09.159 saw no I started playing guitar. I think when I 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.520 was like ten, so I was playing guitar, but I 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.560 could understand the drums. I didn't have a drum set. 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.480 I had a pair of drumsticks, so I would set 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.159 up these pillows on my floor in my bedroom in 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.080 the configuration of a drum set. Yeah, but you're a 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.520 proper music day. But you play, you play everything, so 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.359 that doesn't surprise me at all. Well, I don't know 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.840 how to play everything. I just try to play everything. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.000 So it's that whole fake it till you make it thing, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.640 you know. I know people that are like accomplished musicians 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.359 that spent a lot of time taking lessons and being 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.159 formally trained to do what they do. But then I 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.360 know a lot of musicians that picked up records and 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.800 just sort of played by year, And I think not 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:54.119 that either is better. But one of the benefits of 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.040 learning how to do it yourself is that there really 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.560 is no right or wrong because you're sort of inventing 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:06.040 your own weird theory. So you wind up doing things 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:11.080 that some might consider, uh, you know, unusual, but that 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:29.679 leads to innovation and progress. Okay, this is my favorite question. 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.040 What would be your last meal? And you're not allowed 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.639 to say you're sotting corn dogs and beer. Now you 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.640 can if that's what it is. No, that wouldn't be it. 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.880 It's a toss up. Can I say two different things? Yeah? 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.920 It can be your lunch and your dinner. Okay. A 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:54.240 fift years ago, when the Food Fighters were touring Australia, 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.000 we were on our way to the gig and I 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:02.760 saw a KFC and I said to Gus, our tour manager, Hey, guys, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.040 could you get a bucket of KFC for after the show? 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.320 I don't think I'd had a bucket of Kentucky Fried 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:12.120 Chicken since I was nine years old at like soccer practice, 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.119 Like it has been a really really long time. And 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.119 he's like, yeah, sure, but what do you want? You 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.400 want extra crispy or I was like the original recipe 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.840 please just a bucket. So then we go up on 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:25.280 stage and we played for two and a half hours. 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.639 I'm like, and I walk off stage, I've got a 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.440 tale around my neck. Heading down the hallway, I could 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:37.000 smell that ship from fifty yards away, and I'm like, oh, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:41.040 you got the KFC, like he got the KFC. And 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.879 I walk in and there's a hot steamhon bucket of 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.080 KFC right there. I'm like, I'm exhausted. I just, you know, 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.359 lost five pounds on stage by sweating, so I need salt, 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.960 like I need I'm like, and I'm like, open it up, 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.800 and I'm just like, I'm like a raccoon and a dumpster. 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.159 I was like, I was just like bones flying and 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.800 then so thirsty. I'm like, okay, there's nothing to drink, 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.720 except right next to me in a bucket of ice 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.280 was a bottle of champagne. So I go and I 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.639 opened the champagne and I take a sip and then 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.960 I eat another piece of chicken. Then I go back 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.199 to the champagne. Then I go to the chicken. I'm like, 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.359 oh my god, you guys have to try this. You 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.560 have to try this. Everyone's like, what IM I get 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.640 a piece of chicken, get a little champagne and see 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.880 what happens. I'm not like, I can't go into like 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:38.040 a culinary diet tribe about the juxtaposition and mouth feel 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:43.520 of fried chicken the champagne. Trust me, it's good. And 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.960 by the way, in Australia, what do you think the 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:55.040 case stands for kangaroo? Many made joke, okay, And then 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.480 years later I rented a motorcycle while we had a 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.320 day off in Paris, and we of up into the 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:06.639 Champagne region and took a little tour of the Did 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:08.960 you tell those French people that they needed to be 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:13.160 serving the champagne with KFC? I bet you did. I did. 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.520 After the tour, we're back in this little garden and 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.480 this guy's like white gloves, tuxedo. He's like opening stuff 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.360 and smelling it. No, this one is not good enough. 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.680 And then he like opens another one and it was 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.680 like a rose. He's like, this is rose is very 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.760 nice with salmon and see food and ship and then 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:37.560 he goes he opens up another bottle of like champagne 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.439 and he's like this is very nice with her, and 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.840 I excuse me, you know what's really good with a a 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:52.280 champagne fried chicken. Motherfucker, what what are you talking about? 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.240 Shut up? I love that that was your I love that. 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.879 That's one. Okay, if there's another one as good as that, 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.639 you're allowed to eat both of them. The other one 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.200 is where I grew up in Virginia, just outside of Washington, 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:09.480 d C. We're not far from the Chesapeake Bay, the 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.720 Chesapeake Bay, it's kind of at the edge of d 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.879 C in Maryland. It's hard to explain, but as a 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:17.679 child you spend a lot of time going to the 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.200