1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You know what I had for dinner last night? At what? 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Two microwaveable hot dogs in a guinness. Oh my god, 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: nothing has changed. I've known you since the nineties and 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: nothing has changed. Why should it wait, Dave? Do you 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: remember that there was that place that you had a 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Laurel Canyon and one night one of your roadies fell 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: asleep for the eating. That house was so old that 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the only heating vent was right in the front door 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: of the house, and he fell asleep in the hallway. 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Our drum tech, John John, was sleeping. He was so cold, 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: so he took my jacket, put it over this massive 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: heating then and fell asleep on it and woke up 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: on fire. That's right, I remember that. Remember those were 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the days. Well, by the way, the barbecue in Laurel Canyon, 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: which sounds really fancy, but at that house where you're 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: having the barbecue, it literally what you had microwave for 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: dinner last night. It was like a couple of gorn 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: dogs and like twenty four beers. It was Hello, I'm 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: mini driver, and welcome to many questions. I've always loved 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Pru's questionnaire. It was originally an eighteenth century parlor game 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: meant to reveal an individual's true nature, but with so 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: many questions, there wasn't really an opportunity to expand on anything. 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: So I took the format of Pruce's questionnaire and adapted 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: what I think are seven of the most important questions 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: you could ever ask someone. They are when and where 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: were you happiest? What is the quality you like least 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: your last meal? And can you tell me something in 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: your life that has grown out of a personal faster 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: The more people we ask, the more we begin to 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: see what makes us similar and what makes us individual. 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: I've gathered a group of really remarkable people who I 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: am honored and humbled to have had a chance to 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: engage with, and today I am talking to Dave Grohl. 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I first met Dave when his band Food Fighters were 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: the live music at the FSACHI Runway show in New York. 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I was dressed in white from head to toe. It 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: was a slightly futuristic look, high collared, stiff fabric. Dave 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: said I looked like ziggy Star, Dust's dental hygienist and 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: our friendship of twenty three years was born. For all 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: his many achievements, at heart, to me, Dave is one 44 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: of our most profound storytellers. Nirvana was legendary, it defined 45 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: and created an entire genre of music. But for me, 46 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Food Fighters and the myriad side projects Dave always has 47 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: in play speak to an ongoing, restless exploration of creative evel. 48 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: I've never met a person who literally and figuratively refuses 49 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: to sit still as much as Dave, and to me 50 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: it's genuinely what makes him great. The first question is 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: where and when were you happiest? Well, I hope that 52 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: I haven't been my happiest yet. I have lots of 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: very fond memories. I think I've been happiest more than 54 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: a few times. But you know, I think you find 55 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: different versions of happiness. I find a lot of happiness everywhere, 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: even in the unhappiest times, because I sort of search 57 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: for it. Do you mind for happiness? Is that something 58 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: that you consciously do? I do. I'm a little bit 59 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: more of a big picture type. I try not to 60 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: get caught in crisis so much that I can't see 61 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: outside of it. So if I'm deep in it, I 62 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: stopped and remind myself of the big picture. Was that taught? 63 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Was that from your amazing mother or was that how 64 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: evil was rolled? I'm sure that it's taught in some way, 65 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: maybe like inadvertently. Yeah, I'm you know. I was raised 66 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: by my mother, single parent. My parents split up when 67 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: I was I think six years old, seven years old, 68 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: something like that. So my mother raised me in our 69 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: tiny little house, and she was a public school teacher, 70 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: and we didn't really have money, and sometimes the heat 71 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: would get turned off, and the phone would get turned off, 72 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: and the lights would get turned off, and we'd have 73 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: scrambled eggs for dinner and things like that. But my 74 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: mother was really good at making us feel like we 75 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: had enough all the time. So I had a really 76 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: happy childhood. I didn't have much, but I was happy, 77 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: and that really did come from my mother. It was 78 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: as simple as going to a jazz club on a 79 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: Sunday with my mother and realizing that, oh, she's cool 80 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: and we're friends, but she's my mom. My friends don't 81 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: hang out with their parents. From an early age, I 82 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: felt like you play the hand that you're dealt and 83 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of it. And there's no use in wishing 84 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: against things you can't change, you know. And so when 85 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: I would be in the middle of crisis or an 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation, I would always try to remind myself of 87 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: the big picture. I'm sure it goes back to my childhood, 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: but I still feel that way, you know. I think 89 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: you also set your own bar in a way. You know, 90 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: some people are perfectly happy sitting on their couch playing 91 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: video games for twelve hours a day. Other people are 92 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: only happy when they're skydiving. Yes, and so it's relative. 93 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: I like your spectrum Gears of War to jumping out 94 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: of an airplane. I mean, to be honest, I'm sort 95 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: of both, you know. Like I could be perfectly happy 96 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: sitting on a couch with two hot dogs in the 97 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Guinness watching Dumb and Dumber again, you know, or perfectly 98 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: happy running on stage at Wembley Stadium and conducting eight 99 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: people to sing a song with me. So like those 100 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: two things, you know, you walk off stage and you 101 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, the adrenaline. It's like skydiving, 102 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: it really is. It's a bungee jump. But then I'm 103 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: just as happy you know, sitting in traffic and listening 104 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: to Bill Withers or whatever. And I think it's just 105 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: because you have to be open to it. My dear 106 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: friend and love of my life, Pat Smir, who plays 107 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: guitar in The Food Fighters, he is the most amazing, 108 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: beautiful person because he has this contagious sense of reassurance 109 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: where even in the worst fucking tragedy, you can look 110 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: at each other and laugh, like, how much more absurd 111 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: could life be? You know, the ups and downs of life, 112 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: and and the range of that dynamic. You know, when 113 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: things are at their peak, you look at each other 114 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, my fucking god. When things are 115 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: at the bottom, the lowest of the low, you look 116 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: at each other and you just go, oh, my fucking god. 117 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: It's strange, though, because I was just talking about this 118 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: the other day. We have a song called Waiting on 119 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: a War that just came out, and I wrote the 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: song about a year and a half ago. I wrote 121 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: it and when I was young, growing up outside of Washington, 122 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: d C. My greatest fear was war. In the early eighties, 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: when there was political tension and it was Russia and 124 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: it was Reagan and there was just this anxiety of 125 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, conflict and conservatism, and being so close to Washington, 126 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: d C. I always thought, Okay, there's going to be 127 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: a war and we're going to be the first ones 128 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: to get it because this is the nation's capital. And 129 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: I was kind of obsessed with it. And then a 130 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: year and a half ago, I was taking my daughter, Harper, 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: who's eleven years old, to school. I'm driving her to 132 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: school and she turns to me, she goes, Dad, is 133 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: there gonna be a war? And it broke my heart 134 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: because I thought she's now living under this like dark 135 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: cloud of a hopeless future. Forty years after I did 136 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the same thing, I felt the same as she did, 137 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: and I was heartbroken. I'm like, you know, her childhood 138 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: is being stolen from her by this fear of war. 139 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: And I immediately wrote the song and I wrote it 140 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: for her. And I'm only mentioning this because I did 141 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: have this weird, nihilistic, pessimistic side to me as a kid. 142 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: And it's unfair, like, it's so unfair. Why should anyone 143 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: go through it? But children, you know, God forbid, they 144 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: turn on the fucking television and see what's going on. 145 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather have her listen to the song because in 146 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: the song, I say, you know, I've been waiting on 147 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: a war since I was young? Is there more to 148 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: this than just waiting on a war? Because God? Anyway? 149 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: So I did have this pessimistic side to me when 150 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: I was a kid, but I sort of counted it 151 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: with this maybe naive optimism where I would just think, 152 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: I know, but birds sounds are pretty, you know what 153 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I would just like get on my 154 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: skateboard and crawl through the sewers and be like, yeah, 155 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I think the answer the 156 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: question that you asked fourteen minutes ago, yes, I mind 157 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: for happiness because I think you have to live with 158 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: a sense of hope and you have to be able 159 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: to find goodness and happiness even in the worst times. 160 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. And I actually think 161 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: the worst times thrown too relief what is good and 162 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: what is meaningful and actually helped define happiness a lot 163 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: better than happiness itself. You've got to find it, you 164 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: look for it. I think you're right, you have to 165 00:09:53,120 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: make the effort. Okay, So next question, what relationship, real 166 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: or fictionalized defines love? Fear? Well? The relationship with my mother, 167 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: no question. Yeah. You know, as as a parent, you 168 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: understand that the love that you received from your child 169 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: is just, it's incomparable, It's unlike any other love, and 170 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: the same thing to be said for your relationship with 171 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: your parents. So I've always said her like, that's the 172 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: one because you know, not only was I had given 173 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: this unconditional love, but I was also I was given 174 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: so much more. I was given freedom. She disciplined me 175 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: with freedom, if that makes any sense. She really did. 176 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: We were so close, and I had so much respect. 177 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: Why I still do. I still have so we're still close. 178 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: I still have so much respect for that. The last 179 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: thing I would want to do is disappoint her, because 180 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: I didn't want to jeopardize not only our relationship, but 181 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: your freedom. So she was like, you know, okay, you 182 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: could listen to satanic death metal. It's funny. I'm interested 183 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: in what I think. The only way of being a 184 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: good parent is being cognizant of what it is we 185 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: took from our parents. Both good question. First of all, 186 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: if you believe any of this, I have a bridge 187 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: to sell you. How about that? But then I mean no, 188 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, that's the foundation. My mother wrote 189 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: this book about mothers of musicians right four years ago, 190 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: and she interviewed all these different mothers. She interviewed Dr 191 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Drey's mom, she interviewed for Rall's mom, she interviewed Michael 192 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Stipe's mother. She interviewed like fifteen or twenty different mothers. 193 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: It was interesting because there were parallels. A lot of 194 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: the experiences were the same, some of the relationships were 195 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: a bit different, the mother child relationships. But ultimately you 196 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: have to imagine that that relationship is your first love, right, 197 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: and if you become an artist, typically love is your 198 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: greatest muse. Like that's not only the foundation of who 199 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: you are and what you become in the relationships you 200 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: have with other people, but it also you know, it 201 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: becomes your lens. So that's how you see the world, 202 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's in a dark, tortured focus or 203 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: it's something more romantic. And like, I mean, a lot 204 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: of that is that that foundation is laid by your 205 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: first example of love, and that usually comes from your parents. 206 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: I remember asking her once about being a teenager in 207 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: rural Ohio and the forties in the late forties, and 208 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: um I was asking her about peer pressure, if she 209 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: had any sort of like social anxieties, and she said, 210 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: she said, I never really compared myself to anyone else. 211 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: And I thought, that is the greatest nugget of wisdom 212 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: my mother has ever dropped in my stocking. It was like, like, 213 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I've never compared myself to anyone, and what a perfect 214 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: way to be. It's extremely evolved to be able to go. 215 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: I never compared myself to anyone, not the notion that 216 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: anyone is better or worse, but rather I am myself. 217 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: That's a good person to teach you what the scaffolding 218 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: should look like, around your life, around love, around the 219 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: way we see ourselves. I love your Mom's cool. Okay, 220 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: what question would you most like answered? The thing about UFOs? 221 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Does you want like the Kennedy thing? I mean, you know, 222 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: and then there's the thing about like the Big Bang 223 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and God and whatever. I'm more into the uf I'm 224 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: with you. I went out My sister worked at Ben 225 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: and Jerry's in Provincetown when I was sixteen, and I 226 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: won't to spend the summer with her, and I went 227 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: out to those dunes every night looking for the UFOs, 228 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: and one night, I know one night, this guy gave 229 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: me something to smoke and I saw the goddamn your bugs. 230 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: It was super cool because the next day, when I 231 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: worked in the ben and Jerry's with my sister, I 232 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: was like, listen, the UFOs are for real, And because 233 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I was so English, they all believed me. Oh, I 234 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: love that. That's what you want to know. No, but really, 235 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean when I was young, I don't know why 236 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: or how it started, but I would do that thing 237 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: where I would lay in my front yard and just 238 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: stare at the sky. When you weren't thinking about their 239 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: being a war that was going to wipe you out. 240 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure of course you thought that there were aliens 241 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: who might possibly be there to come and save you. 242 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I still the scrange. Please, Mr Freud, I 243 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: have to be honest. But no, the uf Here's the 244 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: funny thing about the UFO A thing. So since I 245 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: was young, Like when I was young, I'd like lay 246 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: in the front yard and I'd be like contact me 247 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: where I never saw anything weird, but I'd have these 248 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: amazing dreams. First of all, I'm in a crazy vivid dreamer. 249 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I remember dreams from when I was for four years old. 250 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I remember dreams from when I was eight years old 251 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: and fourteen years old. I still vividly remember them. I 252 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: can see them in my mind. I had these crazy 253 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: UFO dreams where I'm like walking on a hill in 254 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: somewhere in Italy on the coast, and it's at dusk 255 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: and right as the stars are coming out, and there's 256 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: people walking around. It's a beautiful night, and all of 257 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, the stars just like implode and the sky 258 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: is filled with UFOs and there's these things being projected 259 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: in the sky explaining the evolution of man. But it's 260 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: it's not sound. It's like telepathically being explained to you 261 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: in your mind. And then a map of the world 262 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: and how like all the territories have been redefined, and 263 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: like crazy stuff like that. But here's the thing. I 264 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: remember once going to a psychic. I wasn't going to 265 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: the psychic for me. I was dropping off my girlfriend 266 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: at the time. At the psychic. This is in Sydney, Australia, 267 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and someone said, there's this French woman in this apartment 268 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: complex outside of Sydney. She's the real due. She'll know 269 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: you're coming right so you don't even knock. So I 270 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: drop off my girlfriend and she has this horrible reading 271 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: and then I walk in and the ladies like no, no, no, no, 272 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: sit down, sit down. Oh she only speaks French, so 273 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: my girlfriend, who also spoke French, was translating. So I 274 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: sit down and she's like, oh, you have a lot 275 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: of energy. And I'm like, I know, I'm a spa 276 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: as I've had a lot of coffee. And she's like, no, 277 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you have a lot of energy. Like your hands they're 278 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: they're like glowing, and I'm like, fuck, yes, this is amazing. 279 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: My girlfriend was just told like our relationship is not 280 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: gonna work, blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then 281 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: now she's got to translate this this the psychic who 282 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: is saying like, you have psychic power. But the best 283 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: the best part was she goes, do you see ghosts? 284 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: And I said, now, I mean I lived in the 285 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: house that had like creepy things, that the vibe was weird, 286 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: But now I don't see ghosts. I said, I have 287 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: dreams about UFOs and she goes, those aren't dreams. I 288 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: was like, yes, killer, what person, place, or experience most 289 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: altered your life? I would have to say the first 290 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: time I saw a band play on a stage. Who 291 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: was it? It was a punk rock band. Actually, I 292 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: had never been to a rock concert, and it was 293 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: a band called Naked Reagun. They were like an infamous 294 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: punk rock band from Chicago. And I can't think of 295 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: anything else that that changed or formed my future then 296 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: that moment, I was in this like you know, dark 297 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: bar that smelled like bleach and beer, and then these 298 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: four guys walk on stage and ripped jeans and like one, two, three, four, bam, 299 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: and they started playing, and like my chest was against 300 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: the stage and their sweat was on me and their 301 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: spit was on me, and I was getting thrown around 302 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: um by people with like mohawks, and so I was like, 303 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing for the rest of my life. 304 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: In between the ages of like eleven and thirteen, it's 305 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: a really formative age because you're discovering independence. You're no 306 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: longer just a child that needs to hold someone's hand 307 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: when they crossed the street. So you're kind of discovering 308 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: who you are, and at that time you sort of 309 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: connect to things that become your identity. Right, I'm really 310 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: into football, So then you started playing football, but with music. 311 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: If the hooks get deep enough that they sort of 312 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: like catch that newly introspective part of your identity. Oh, 313 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: so now you have somewhere to put it, Like, Oh, 314 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: I'll pick up a guitar and I could put it there. 315 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I could pick up a drum as I could put 316 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: it there. Wait, were you already a drumma when you 317 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: saw no I started playing guitar. I think when I 318 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: was like ten, so I was playing guitar, but I 319 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: could understand the drums. I didn't have a drum set. 320 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: I had a pair of drumsticks, so I would set 321 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: up these pillows on my floor in my bedroom in 322 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: the configuration of a drum set. Yeah, but you're a 323 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: proper music day. But you play, you play everything, so 324 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me at all. Well, I don't know 325 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: how to play everything. I just try to play everything. 326 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: So it's that whole fake it till you make it thing, 327 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: you know. I know people that are like accomplished musicians 328 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: that spent a lot of time taking lessons and being 329 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: formally trained to do what they do. But then I 330 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: know a lot of musicians that picked up records and 331 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: just sort of played by year, And I think not 332 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: that either is better. But one of the benefits of 333 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: learning how to do it yourself is that there really 334 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: is no right or wrong because you're sort of inventing 335 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: your own weird theory. So you wind up doing things 336 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: that some might consider, uh, you know, unusual, but that 337 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: leads to innovation and progress. Okay, this is my favorite question. 338 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: What would be your last meal? And you're not allowed 339 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: to say you're sotting corn dogs and beer. Now you 340 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: can if that's what it is. No, that wouldn't be it. 341 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: It's a toss up. Can I say two different things? Yeah? 342 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: It can be your lunch and your dinner. Okay. A 343 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: fift years ago, when the Food Fighters were touring Australia, 344 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: we were on our way to the gig and I 345 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: saw a KFC and I said to Gus, our tour manager, Hey, guys, 346 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: could you get a bucket of KFC for after the show? 347 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I'd had a bucket of Kentucky Fried 348 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: Chicken since I was nine years old at like soccer practice, 349 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Like it has been a really really long time. And 350 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, sure, but what do you want? You 351 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: want extra crispy or I was like the original recipe 352 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: please just a bucket. So then we go up on 353 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: stage and we played for two and a half hours. 354 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, and I walk off stage, I've got a 355 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: tale around my neck. Heading down the hallway, I could 356 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: smell that ship from fifty yards away, and I'm like, oh, 357 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: you got the KFC, like he got the KFC. And 358 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: I walk in and there's a hot steamhon bucket of 359 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: KFC right there. I'm like, I'm exhausted. I just, you know, 360 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: lost five pounds on stage by sweating, so I need salt, 361 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: like I need I'm like, and I'm like, open it up, 362 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm like a raccoon and a dumpster. 363 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: I was like, I was just like bones flying and 364 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: then so thirsty. I'm like, okay, there's nothing to drink, 365 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: except right next to me in a bucket of ice 366 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: was a bottle of champagne. So I go and I 367 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: opened the champagne and I take a sip and then 368 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: I eat another piece of chicken. Then I go back 369 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: to the champagne. Then I go to the chicken. I'm like, 370 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys have to try this. You 371 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: have to try this. Everyone's like, what IM I get 372 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: a piece of chicken, get a little champagne and see 373 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: what happens. I'm not like, I can't go into like 374 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: a culinary diet tribe about the juxtaposition and mouth feel 375 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: of fried chicken the champagne. Trust me, it's good. And 376 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: by the way, in Australia, what do you think the 377 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: case stands for kangaroo? Many made joke, okay, And then 378 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: years later I rented a motorcycle while we had a 379 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: day off in Paris, and we of up into the 380 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: Champagne region and took a little tour of the Did 381 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: you tell those French people that they needed to be 382 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: serving the champagne with KFC? I bet you did. I did. 383 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: After the tour, we're back in this little garden and 384 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: this guy's like white gloves, tuxedo. He's like opening stuff 385 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: and smelling it. No, this one is not good enough. 386 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: And then he like opens another one and it was 387 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: like a rose. He's like, this is rose is very 388 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: nice with salmon and see food and ship and then 389 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: he goes he opens up another bottle of like champagne 390 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: and he's like this is very nice with her, and 391 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: I excuse me, you know what's really good with a a 392 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: champagne fried chicken. Motherfucker, what what are you talking about? 393 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Shut up? I love that that was your I love that. 394 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: That's one. Okay, if there's another one as good as that, 395 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: you're allowed to eat both of them. The other one 396 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: is where I grew up in Virginia, just outside of Washington, 397 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: d C. We're not far from the Chesapeake Bay, the 398 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Chesapeake Bay, it's kind of at the edge of d 399 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: C in Maryland. It's hard to explain, but as a 400 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: child you spend a lot of time going to the 401 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: beaches out there or going to the bay. But there's 402 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: a specific sort of like culinary history to that area, 403 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: whether it's oysters or clams or blue crabs, things like that. 404 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: So when I was young, we would always go down 405 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: to the wharf and buy seafood from the boats that 406 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: came directly off of the Chesapeake Bay. So we would 407 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: get like a bushel of crabs, and there's a there's 408 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: a specific way to have blue crabs on the Chesapeake 409 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Bay Way. They're steamed, they're not boiled. They're seasoned with 410 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: this stuff called old Bay seasoning. And the ceremony of 411 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: eating these things, I mean, from each crab, you're lucky 412 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: if you get a tablespoon of crab meat, right, But 413 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: it's more of a ritual. So you steam these crabs. 414 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: You have a table and you lay newspaper all over 415 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: the table. You steam the crabs and season them with 416 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: old bass seasoning. You have some sides, maybe corn on 417 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: the cob, maybe hush puppies or some sort of like 418 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: starchy thing, and a lot of beer. And then you 419 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: just dump this bushel of steam crabs covered in this 420 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: seasoning on the table and everyone just sits there and 421 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: drinks beer and picks crabs for like six hours. And 422 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: your lips are burning because it's spicy, your fingers are 423 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: orange because of the seasoning. You've had forty seven beers 424 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: because it's so salty. But you've wound up telling each 425 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: other the best stories you have to tell, and so 426 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: it tastes delicious, and it is my favorite. That is, 427 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: without a doubt, my favorite meal. I can't imagine that 428 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: any warden would allow me that on my no, no, no, 429 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: in my in my prison which you're in, you can't 430 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: have crab with with orange seasoning and forty seven beers 431 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: for sure. Last question, David, in your life, can you 432 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: tell me about something that has grown out of a 433 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: personal disaster of the food fighters. Babe, Yeah, that's it. 434 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean when we started this band, you know, we 435 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: didn't imagine that it would last as long as it has. 436 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: But I think one of the reasons it's lasted as 437 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: long as it has is because of what it represents 438 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: to us. So when Nirvana ended, I couldn't imagine doing 439 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: that again. But I realized that music was what had 440 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: kept me alive up until that point, and in order 441 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: for me to survive, I needed it. So this band, 442 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: when we first started it, the foundation was this continuation 443 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: of life, not just music. It was like a continuation 444 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: of life. I would have to say it's that because 445 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: over the years, even in the heartbreaker ups and downs 446 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: of the last twenty five years, the band has always 447 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: been not just an anchor, but kind of like it's 448 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: like a home. And so you don't just feel like 449 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: you're an island and you're you know, floating and nothingness. 450 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: It's like I can always lean back on this thing. 451 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: And again not just musically, it's a really emotional experience 452 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: in this it's a real world that we've created over 453 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years, and so I don't know 454 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: where I would be or who I would be without it. 455 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: I feel like the luckiest person in the world that 456 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: that it happened. It's an extraordinary example of what I 457 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: hope to elicit from that question. I would also add 458 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: having been on the tour bus with all of you 459 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: and the band that in addition to it being you know, 460 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: home and they are such excellent people, it is a 461 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: proper fart shop around about listen ten hours into a draw, 462 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: come on, well, you know what's funny. I was explaining 463 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: this to someone the other day, that that there's really 464 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: no musical prerequisite to be in the Food Fighters. Barely hardly. 465 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: That's not that's not the top of our list. It's 466 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: more of emotional aesthetic. It's the type of person that 467 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: you are. But you know, you just you know, it's like, 468 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, when you meet the love of your life, 469 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, when you meet your best friend, you know, 470 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: when you meet that person that you're just like, just 471 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: like that, You're like, okay, it's just like that. And 472 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: the same thing can be said musically. It's just like, okay, 473 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: we're not going to say anything. Put on your instrument 474 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: and let's talk to each other. For a while, and 475 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: that comes from like the person that you are. You 476 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: guys are excellent people. The radio, it's the it is. 477 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: It's one of the most fun times I ever had ever. 478 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Was the short time I was on tour with you guys. 479 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: It was Hold on a second. What remember when we 480 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: played the Monsters of Rock festival. Yeah, when you went 481 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: on off to Pantera. That was a great show there. 482 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a story that's going to 483 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: kind of blow your mind. Okay, So that day we 484 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: meet our metal heroes Pantera, right, who are the sweetest 485 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: people in the world. After the show, the drummer Vinny 486 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: God Rest, his soul is not with us anymore. Neither 487 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: is Dime Back. Both of the brothers gone and uh 488 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: and they were the most beautiful people. I love them 489 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: so much. Vinny the drummer gives me this his business card, 490 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: hands it to me and it's a strip club called 491 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the Clubhouse. He goes, man, next time we were in 492 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Texas outside of Dallas, you gotta come visit us at 493 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: the Clubhouse. And I'm like, oh my god, you have 494 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: your own strip club. He's like, hey, yeah, I do. 495 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: Am I great? And this is just before I was 496 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: moving from Los Angeles back to Virginia eight or nine 497 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, so I knew that I was 498 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: going to make this road trip. It was Taylor and 499 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: I in my Chevy Tahoe driving across country. I mean, 500 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: talk about dumb and dummer come on. So we're like, okay, 501 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: we're going to We're gonna route this tour around a 502 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: visit at pan Terris Strip Club. So we we sort 503 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, first day we're gonna get to Phoenix. 504 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna spend the night there. The next day we're 505 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: gonna get to Blah blah blah. But on the third 506 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: night we're gonna get to Dallas. Taylor is going to 507 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: visit his family. He's got relatives there, and then after 508 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: we have that dinner, went straight to the clubhouse in 509 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: my Chevy Tahoe. The first day of the trip, we're driving, 510 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: we stopped for gas. We're blaring, you know, fog hat 511 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: and put a stepping Wolf and Ted Nugent. We get 512 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: to Phoenix. We go to check into the hotel and 513 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I had left my wallet on the gas pump in Barstow, California, 514 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: but credit cards, I d everything, and I'm like, oh 515 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: my God, and Taylor said, okay, I'll check us in. 516 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: I immediately call my accountant and I'm like, dude, I 517 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: love I just lost all of my credit cards and stuff. 518 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: And he said, well, you know it's going to take 519 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: you a while to get some of those back, but 520 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: I'll fed X you something. So he does. We get 521 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: to Dallas, we have the dinner with Taylor's family and 522 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: we're like, all right, We're going to the clubhouse. And 523 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: this is like a seven hundred mile detour by the way, 524 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: like this is not a short cut to Springfield, Virginia. 525 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: This is like we're taking a hard right and going 526 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: way over here just to go to this club. We 527 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: pull up to the club doorman he says, uh, I 528 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: see your I d S. Please, And I'm like, uh, oh, well, 529 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I actually just lost my my driver's license the other 530 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: day in California. And uh. He was like, I'm sorry, buddy, 531 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: I can't let you in. And I said, no, no, no, 532 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: we will be I think it was like thirty at 533 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: the time or whatever. I'm like, no, no, I'm I'm 534 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: i'm I'm I'm of age. He goes, I'm sorry, brother, 535 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: I can't let you in. If if if the cops 536 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: came and found you, I'd get busted and Taylor goes, yeah, 537 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: but we're friends with and Tara and the guys. The 538 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: guy's like, he's like everybody's friend. Tara. I tried called Vinnie, 539 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: couldn't get in touch with anyone, never got into the club. 540 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: That is the saddest story. Back in the truck with 541 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: my tail between my legs, got back to Virginia. Are 542 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: you kidding you? Literally went seven and didn't and he 543 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't even get in. Yes. But here's the best part 544 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: that I think about. Ten years later, I was in Oxnard, California, 545 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: at a surf shop buying sunglasses from my daughter Violet, 546 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: who was about three years old at the time. And 547 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: I walked up to the cash register and the nice 548 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: surfer girl who worked there says, are you Dave Grohl. 549 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: I said yes, and she said did you lose your 550 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: wallet in Barstow, California ten years ago? And I said yes, 551 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and she said that was my parents gas station. No, 552 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: and then she said they still have your wallet. I 553 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: gave her my address and they sent my wallet. No. 554 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And by the way, you can't follow that, 555 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: can't follow that, so it you just have to see 556 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: the big picture. Many brought it all the way back around. 557 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: You have to find the happiness. It might not be immediate, 558 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: you might have to wait ten years to get it back. 559 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: I gotta look at that big picture. I'll drink to that. 560 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: I'll drink to that, and I'll eat KFC to that. 561 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: But food Fight has just released an eleven minute video 562 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: of Dave performing ev long at old song First seven eight. 563 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: It features Dave telling the beautiful background story of how 564 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: that song was written and of the first formative performances 565 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: of it. Storytelling is an art. Dave is a bit 566 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: of a master at it. Mini Questions is hosted and 567 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: written by Me, Mini Driver, supervising producer Aaron Kaufman, Producer 568 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: Morgan Lavoy, Research assistant Marissa Brown. Original music Sorry Baby 569 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: by Minni Driver, additional music by Aaron Kaufman. Executive produced 570 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: by Me and man Gesh Hetty Cador. Special thanks to 571 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: Jim Nikolay, Will Pearson, Addison, No Day, Lisa Castella and 572 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Annique Oppenheim at w kPr, de La Pescadore, Kate Driver 573 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: and Jason Weinberg, and for constantly solicited tech support, Henry 574 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: Driver