Speaker 1: Tom Draft prospects are descending upon Indianapolis for the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five NFL scouting Combine. But will we get a
Speaker 1: glimpse at the top quarterbacks on the field. We've got
Speaker 1: the latest on cam Ward and Shador Sanders plans. As
Speaker 1: the pre draft process ramps up. Hate the tush push,
Speaker 1: You are not alone. One NFL team wants to ban
Speaker 1: it immediately, probably more than that, but one actually made
Speaker 1: that request. We'll tell you what the Competition Committee is
Speaker 1: saying about it. Coaches also are landing here in Indy.
Speaker 1: First man up in front of reporters Sean McDermott, who
Speaker 1: spoke with our Judy Batisa about how the Bills can
Speaker 1: finally get over the hump. Added bonus, tonight we get
Speaker 1: to speak to Judy too Wellcome inside with the insiders
Speaker 1: alongside the aforementioned Judy Batisa and Mike Garriffalo Ian Rappaport,
Speaker 1: I am Tom Hell with Sarah.
Speaker 2: We got a special graphic and everything.
Speaker 1: It's the insiders at the combine right down there. Starting
Speaker 1: on Thursday, top draft prospects at every position are going
Speaker 1: to be working out. This is all, of course, the
Speaker 1: run up to the end of April and the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft aingering bay. But there's so much more to look
Speaker 1: forward to. That's right, the NFL comment, it's underway, but
Speaker 1: the drills are three days away. We got the franchise
Speaker 1: tag deadline coming up two weeks from today, the free
Speaker 1: agent negotiating window begins less than two months from the draft,
Speaker 1: and there's training camp, the preseason, the NFL season nightmare
Speaker 1: fuel for all of our spouses. But again, it begins
Speaker 1: right here in Indianapolis, where we are going to see
Speaker 1: a lot of the top prospects on the field, though
Speaker 1: not a few of the notable names. That includes Abduel Carter,
Speaker 1: the top edge prospect out of Penn State, potentially the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. We're covering from a shoulder injury,
Speaker 1: not going to do drills here in Indianapolis. Cam Ward,
Speaker 1: possibly the top quarterback on the board, still undecided from
Speaker 1: what I am told. I spoke with his quarterbacks coach
Speaker 1: Darryl Colbert, who told me earlier today, Ward actually went
Speaker 1: through a combine like throwing session during the day today,
Speaker 1: So there's at least a possibility he's mullied whether or
Speaker 1: not he wants to come out here and throw Shador Sanders,
Speaker 1: who has the same quarterbacks coach, has been training with
Speaker 1: cam Ward. He is not, as Ian said on Sunday,
Speaker 1: going to participate in drills, focusing on continuing the interviews
Speaker 1: as he did during the East West Shrine Bowl, and
Speaker 1: then is going to throw to some pretty talented receivers,
Speaker 1: including Travis Hunter at his pro day. Ashtroon Genti, the
Speaker 1: Boise State running back, also not planning to participate here,
Speaker 1: according to his Agent's going to take part in on
Speaker 1: field drills during Boise State's pro day.
Speaker 3: But as I.
Speaker 1: Mentioned, there's hundreds of prospects, the vast, vast majority of
Speaker 1: are going to be working out here, including some in
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's new top tenes, potentially Travis Hunter. We could
Speaker 1: see out on the field here, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: more to look forward to through the course of this week,
Speaker 1: and a lot that happens on the field, of course,
Speaker 1: but also behind the scenes, the restaurants and bars and hotels. Right,
Speaker 1: what are you most looking forward to besides clean out
Speaker 1: your nail pastores with that Troup cocktail.
Speaker 4: I'm excited about the restaurants and bars. As you know,
Speaker 4: that's my favorite part of any But let's talk about
Speaker 4: the on field situation first. Right here behind us, you
Speaker 4: mentioned Shador Sanders with his decision, as told me in
Speaker 4: a FaceTime a couple of days ago, we mentioned the
Speaker 4: cam word possibility of whether or not he's throwing.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on behind those guys.
Speaker 4: From what I understand based on the evaluators I speak with,
Speaker 4: it does seem like, as of right now, those are
Speaker 4: the top two quarterbacks. But who's behind them? Where does
Speaker 4: Jackson Dart fit in behind those guys? Where does quin
Speaker 4: Yours fit in behind those guys? What about Riley Leonard?
Speaker 4: How much are we going to see of those guys?
Speaker 4: Obviously we know Jackson Dart Riley Leonard, as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: are going to throw quin Yours. We shall see at
Speaker 4: some point shoot what he's going to do. But where
Speaker 4: does it slide in?
Speaker 2: Who is QB three? How high do they go highly
Speaker 2: thought of? Are they one of the big storylines going
Speaker 2: to play out behind us?
Speaker 5: What an opportunity for those guys too? If the top
Speaker 5: two guys decide not to throw, What an opportunity for
Speaker 5: those guys to seize the attention I am looking forward to.
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to do with the prospects. I'm looking
Speaker 5: forward to all of the conversations here. Maybe we get
Speaker 5: some clarity on the quarterback situation in the off season.
Speaker 5: What happens with Matthew Stafford, What about Sam Darnold, what's
Speaker 5: going to happen with him, Kirk Cousins, there's so much
Speaker 5: quarterback musical chairs about to happen going into free agency,
Speaker 5: hoping we get some info on that.
Speaker 6: Well, don't expect straight answers, I mean hard knocks the
Speaker 6: off season. Urgeon last year showed Joe Shane meeting with
Speaker 6: Dean Dargan, his PR guy, talking about while they're going
Speaker 6: to ask me this and and we're not going to
Speaker 6: and it literally.
Speaker 2: Showed him not answering the questions.
Speaker 6: You know, it's an exercise of utility sometimes asking these,
Speaker 6: but you get to ask the questions away from those
Speaker 6: press conferences when everybody gets here and then they start
Speaker 6: to have conversation. So you can already start to feel
Speaker 6: a lot of the uncertainty, particularly with the quarterback position,
Speaker 6: when it comes to trades and precy and everything that's coming.
Speaker 6: It's all starting this slot a little bit like we're
Speaker 6: gonna by the time we leave here, We're going to
Speaker 6: have a much better feel for where things are going
Speaker 6: to go when it.
Speaker 2: Comes to the start of the league.
Speaker 1: A lot of these dominos in the quarterback market fall
Speaker 1: upon each other. In other words, to your point, Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford's not back in LA who slots in there. More
Speaker 1: on that in just a little bit, But I mentioned
Speaker 1: there's a lot of top prospects here. Daniel Jeremiah put
Speaker 1: out a new top fifty list. Here's the top ten
Speaker 1: on that board. He does have cam Ward on that list,
Speaker 1: Doors Sanders in the top ten, Ashton genty.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah is the president of that fan club. Going
Speaker 1: back to the fall, the guy was on this board
Speaker 1: several years ago, Trey Lance ended up going number three
Speaker 1: overall to the San Francisco forty nine. Ers eventually traded
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, where there's a lot of them in practice,
Speaker 1: but not a whole lot in games. Stephen Jones spoke
Speaker 1: earlier today and certainly indicated the Cowboys once again not
Speaker 1: for a starter. They're paying back a lot of money
Speaker 1: to do that, but they're gonna be back in that
Speaker 1: quarterback market.
Speaker 7: I mean, we'll evaluate the whole situation. I mean you're
Speaker 7: always wanting to have a young guy coming, you know,
Speaker 7: that's always a preference, and certainly that's something we'll look
Speaker 7: at in the draft, is you know, to see if
Speaker 7: there's a young guy to start bringing along again. Obviously
Speaker 7: we were focused on Trey there when we traded for him,
Speaker 7: and he was our young guy, if you will, and
Speaker 7: that we were bringing along. But all of those are
Speaker 7: things that we'll you know, start to evaluate with this
Speaker 7: draft with coach Schottenheimer, with coach Simkoh and Clayton in
Speaker 7: that group. You know what's available out there, what's going
Speaker 7: to be in the draft, and make the best, you
Speaker 7: know decision in terms of what we're going to have
Speaker 7: behind that. We get criticized and rightfully so for lack
Speaker 7: of success in the postseason and then of course certainly
Speaker 7: weren't please with our season this year. We had some challenges,
Speaker 7: you know, from an injury standpoint, But Jerry likes to
Speaker 7: say the world's smallest violin there. I mean, that's part
Speaker 7: of our game. You know, people have injuries. You know,
Speaker 7: I was just talking with John he had the same
Speaker 7: situation in San Francisco, So you know that's just part
Speaker 7: of it. But certainly we're always looking for ways to
Speaker 7: be better and what we've done recently with our lack
Speaker 7: of playoff success and certainly this year, we certainly understand
Speaker 7: that and know that we have to, you know, continue
Speaker 7: to look for ways to be better than that.
Speaker 1: First of all, on Trey Lance, just real quick for him,
Speaker 1: thinking that's a referendum on him.
Speaker 2: For one thing, he's a free agent. This is not
Speaker 2: that he's getting released.
Speaker 1: But they actually came to him, I'm told, with a
Speaker 1: contract extension offer late last season. It didn't make sense
Speaker 1: for Trey Lance to take it because he wasn't playing
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys at that point.
Speaker 2: Didn't end up working out.
Speaker 1: There's still multiple teams even after Dallas traded for him,
Speaker 1: trying to trade for Trey Lance, who.
Speaker 2: Is only twenty four years old. He's younger than Michael Penix.
Speaker 1: There's going to be interesting in Trey Lance as a
Speaker 1: developmental player, yeah, in this cycle, but certainly when you
Speaker 1: had a guy like Cooper Rush there who they were
Speaker 1: leaning on, a veteran, he's gonna do well in this
Speaker 1: market in Dallas is probably gonna.
Speaker 2: Be looking one way or another for a backup quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really fascinating to hear Steven Jones talk
Speaker 4: to reporters guys here and discuss them being selectively aggressive,
Speaker 4: I believe was the phrase that he used in fregency.
Speaker 4: Look last year, I know drove Cowboys fans absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4: All of their priorities were about their own guys, right,
Speaker 4: I mean they barely signed any for agent. I think
Speaker 4: just one, right, just one free agent if I can
Speaker 4: remember correctly, they ended up Kendricks, right, that was it,
Speaker 4: and they just focused on their own guys. And I'm
Speaker 4: not going to say punted on freegency, but basically did
Speaker 4: that when to the season with what they had, it
Speaker 4: was what it was.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 4: It's not like they have a ton of cap space now,
Speaker 4: but based on possible Micah Parson's extension, based on restructuring
Speaker 4: a couple of contracts Dak Cadie Lamb, they can create
Speaker 4: the space and they have holes all over the roster.
Speaker 4: I meant defensive line could use another edge. President'll see
Speaker 4: if DeMarcus Lawrence ends up walking away, could probably use
Speaker 4: a guard to replace Sach Martin, who we reported retireing.
Speaker 4: This is going to be the Cowboys free agency that
Speaker 4: It does seem like the fans will like a little
Speaker 4: bit more and Dallas has been excellent, excellent, maybe not
Speaker 4: last year, but excellent at identifying talent.
Speaker 2: Another opportunity for the front office to do that this offseason.
Speaker 5: The phrase selectively aggressive really caught my ear as well,
Speaker 5: because I was wondering, where do you slop that in
Speaker 5: in comparison to all in, which is what last offseason
Speaker 5: was supposed to be about and turned out to. I mean,
Speaker 5: they were all in on their own guys, sure not
Speaker 5: really on anybody else's guys, And so I wondered, well,
Speaker 5: what do you mean by that? But certainly they have holes.
Speaker 5: We saw that last season. They have holes on the
Speaker 5: roster that they have to fill, and if they are
Speaker 5: going to be selectively aggressive, it's going to have to
Speaker 5: go well beyond just getting a young quarterback. There. They
Speaker 5: have got to address some of needs. Last season was
Speaker 5: a tremendous disappointment. That's an understatement. And again I am
Speaker 5: curious to see if they back this up selectively aggressive
Speaker 5: the way they did not back it up last season.
Speaker 6: Well, when you hear them talk about, well we're going
Speaker 6: to get a quarterback in this draft, a young court,
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean first round doesn't even mean early second day.
Speaker 6: It just means a guy that you maybe could get
Speaker 6: at some point that could wind up being your backup.
Speaker 6: Tom you talked about the fact that they've got Cooper
Speaker 6: Rush and Trey Lance out there who might make more
Speaker 6: money than your budgeted for. Especially when you're paying that
Speaker 6: guy right there sixty million if he's at the top
Speaker 6: of the quarterback class. A lot of times teams will say, well,
Speaker 6: then we need to pull back when it comes to
Speaker 6: paying the backup. I remember the Eagles wanting to do
Speaker 6: that a couple of years ago. They drafted Jalen Hurts
Speaker 6: to be behind Carson Wentz. YadA, YadA, YadA. Jalen Hurts
Speaker 6: is now the guy making a ton of money. But
Speaker 6: the point is a lot of times that you can say, well,
Speaker 6: that's going to be our strategy to save on the
Speaker 6: backup position and get ourselves a guy who, yeah, like
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts, maybe wind up being your guy down the
Speaker 6: road there. So we'll see when it comes to their
Speaker 6: strategy in the draft. But there's got to be some
Speaker 6: more selectivity when it comes to that aggressiveness.
Speaker 1: I like that from all into somewhat in a first
Speaker 1: step to being all in, but you know, there's a
Speaker 1: little ways to go here. Somebody also does not have
Speaker 1: a sixty million dollars quarterback. Is going to end up
Speaker 1: trading for one? Is it going to involve Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: That's been an ongoing question over the past couple of
Speaker 1: months here and really ramping up over the last week
Speaker 1: when the Rams gave Stafford's agent, Jimmy Sexton, permission to
Speaker 1: go speak with other clubs and talk about the possibility
Speaker 1: that he could be available. What that would look like here? Now,
Speaker 1: Stafford has a forty nine million dollars cap number. He's
Speaker 1: only do about twenty seven million dollars in cash in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. He wants a raise over that number
Speaker 1: to get him judy up into the logical territory for
Speaker 1: somebody who's still, even at this stage's career, is a
Speaker 1: top ten type of a talent. The real question is
Speaker 1: are the Rams comfortable going to that type of number
Speaker 1: or Stafford going to find the best opportunity for himself
Speaker 1: some place.
Speaker 5: Well, as I just said a few minutes ago, can
Speaker 5: we finally get some clarity or at least some movement
Speaker 5: toward clarity this week in Indianapolis. They are on sort
Speaker 5: of different timelines, right. I mean, he is a late
Speaker 5: thirties something quarterback with a team that's got a much
Speaker 5: younger roster, got much younger last off season, and I
Speaker 5: think really outperformed expectations. They are ahead of schedule, and
Speaker 5: so they don't seem to be lined up on the timeline.
Speaker 5: Having said that, I don't think there's any question the
Speaker 5: Rams would look much better going into next season with
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford at the quarterback position compared to anybody else.
Speaker 2: That they could get there.
Speaker 5: Presumably, as you pointed out, if Matthew Stafford goes elsewhere,
Speaker 5: and there are certainly teams that need a Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 5: teams that need a quarterback and would be interested if
Speaker 5: the price is right for Matthew Stafford, then who gets
Speaker 5: slots in at the Rams. There's all these moving pieces.
Speaker 5: Certainly in the next few days ago, let's.
Speaker 6: Names of those teams for Las Vegas Raiders, the New
Speaker 6: York Giants certainly amongst the team teams that would be
Speaker 6: interested and are interested in Matthew Stafford if e wiggles free.
Speaker 6: But it's not just the financials for Matthew Stafford it's
Speaker 6: then going to be the trade compensation, and that appears
Speaker 6: to be what a lot of teams believe is going
Speaker 6: to be the stumbling block, and that the Rams are
Speaker 6: allowing Stafford to go out there, Okay, tell us what
Speaker 6: the numbers are out there financially, but then when it
Speaker 6: comes down to trade them, they're still going to want
Speaker 6: a significant return when it comes to the trades, so
Speaker 6: they don't think necessarily And it's kind of an odd
Speaker 6: thing to let a guy go talk numbers with other
Speaker 6: teams and say, yeah, we still want him back. But
Speaker 6: the belief around the league is yes, they do still
Speaker 6: want him back, and that perhaps is the most likely
Speaker 6: destination right now is for him to remain with the Rams.
Speaker 6: We'll see how it plays out, but it is an
Speaker 6: odd little twist here that you.
Speaker 2: Don't usually see. But they want him back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it does seem like the teams that
Speaker 4: are in the market for Matthew Stafford are basically the
Speaker 4: same teams of the market for Aaron Rodgers, same teams
Speaker 4: that are in market for Sam Donald. You have the Rams,
Speaker 4: if you guys return, you have Raiders, you have the Giants,
Speaker 4: obviously a couple others without a firm starter at quarterback.
Speaker 4: I kind of like what the Rams did, and basically
Speaker 4: what they did was legalized temper right. I mean, everything
Speaker 4: good that happens in the tampering window, which is your
Speaker 4: agent gets to go out and find out what the
Speaker 4: actual price is, is happening right now, maybe quickening the
Speaker 4: process so it doesn't happen right before training camp where
Speaker 4: you think Stafford's going to show up, he doesn't show up.
Speaker 4: He gets that raise and it's kind of awkward for
Speaker 4: the rest of the year. He gets the opportunity his
Speaker 4: age and Jimmy sex it gets the opportunity to be like,
Speaker 4: all right, like what do you think, what's the market?
Speaker 4: And you know our team's going to give up a
Speaker 4: first round or to trade for him.
Speaker 2: They might. We've seen crazy quarterback trades before. I don't
Speaker 2: know that that's going to happen, but at.
Speaker 4: Least the market will speak and give the Rams an
Speaker 4: opportunity to be like, Okay, everyone views him as a
Speaker 4: whatever it is, forty forty five to fifty million dollars quarterback.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should too, or not.
Speaker 1: There's certainly a track record of older quarterbacks being traded
Speaker 1: for second round picks or things that add up to
Speaker 1: second round picks, so that potentially could be the target
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. I can tell you they have had
Speaker 1: the Rams, have had conversations with other teams about the
Speaker 1: trade compensation. So you have the different parts potentially in
Speaker 1: place if and when all parties agree to move on.
Speaker 1: But this is not just a two to tango situation.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has a seat at the table as well,
Speaker 1: because he would have to agree to a new contract
Speaker 1: as part of any deal, So stay tuned. Part of
Speaker 1: the reason that there would be such a market for
Speaker 1: somebody like Matthew Stafford is the fact that there's not
Speaker 1: a whole lot out there in terms of free agency,
Speaker 1: particularly at the quarterback position. Greg Rosenthal put out his
Speaker 1: annual top one hundred and one free agency, told me
Speaker 1: earlier today he might go to one No.
Speaker 2: Two next year. Let's live there delariously. Justin fields.
Speaker 1: Of course, free agent Russell Wilson, they're both on this
Speaker 1: list as well. There's a couple of detackles, Bill Williams
Speaker 1: and guys. As they get cut, he does, he does,
Speaker 1: he does, So then some poor souls get pushed up.
Speaker 1: Right now, Chubb is operating the number one hundred and one.
Speaker 1: I can read that NFL dot com slash top one
Speaker 1: oh one. What type of moves could the Bills make
Speaker 1: in this off season? Last year, the biggest movie was
Speaker 1: the Guy that they traded away. Well, Judy's going to
Speaker 1: try to get some answers from Sean McDermott. An exclusive
Speaker 1: interview coming up right after this is This show rolls
Speaker 1: on with so much more from here the site of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL Scouting Combine in gorgeous Indianapolis.
Speaker 6: What were you doing in twenty fifteen, James Gladstone was
Speaker 6: coaching high school football. Now less than a decade later,
Speaker 6: I guess about a decade later, he's a general manager
Speaker 6: of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and now he's holding press conferences
Speaker 6: on back to back days. Today in Jacksonville. Tomorrow he'll
Speaker 6: be speaking at the scouting Combine. Here's Gladstone today on
Speaker 6: the opportunity to work with the con family as the
Speaker 6: new general manager of the Jaguars.
Speaker 8: I genuinely believe that this moment me being seated on
Speaker 8: this stage is not a reflection of anything that I've
Speaker 8: done on my own, but rather a collective effort, and
Speaker 8: I won't lose sight of it to less and care
Speaker 8: a sneed. You guys altered the trajectory of my life,
Speaker 8: supporting you, learning from you. You know that was an
Speaker 8: honor of a lifetime and I look to carry that
Speaker 8: experience forward every day in this role.
Speaker 2: To the Jaguar fan base.
Speaker 3: I turn to you.
Speaker 8: With William's vision, with a disciplined approach. You know, we're
Speaker 8: going to bring you a product that you all can
Speaker 8: be proud of, and we are so appreciative of your support.
Speaker 5: With that game on.
Speaker 1: Came on Duvall.
Speaker 2: Cam Wolf now joining us. I'm going to have some
Speaker 2: pauses in there. It was a very effective use of
Speaker 2: the pod there by James Gladstone.
Speaker 6: He's with us, Judy Batista and Mike Arafallow here to
Speaker 6: talk the new era of Jacksonville Jaguars football. You are
Speaker 6: our Florida guys. He spent a lot of time around
Speaker 6: the Jaguars. Your thoughts on Liam Cohen and James Gladstone,
Speaker 6: two buddies.
Speaker 2: You know, if you ever get a head coaching job,
Speaker 2: you take me with you.
Speaker 9: I would certainly be a GM Jaguar absolutely won't be
Speaker 9: as young as this group, but we'll try to can't
Speaker 9: go back work.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. The big thing that stood out.
Speaker 9: To me listening to this process the last few days
Speaker 9: innovation and evolving. This is a Jags organization that's trying
Speaker 9: to move forward. They had Doug Peterson Trent Balky as
Speaker 9: our duo. They now have the youngest head coach in
Speaker 9: GM duo in the NFL, with Liam Cohen and James Gladstone.
Speaker 9: And I thought it was really interesting hearing Lean Cohen
Speaker 9: tell a story about James Gladstone and saying, essentially, when
Speaker 9: we were with the Rams together, he led the undrafted
Speaker 9: free agency process and he connected our scouts and coach
Speaker 9: unlike anyone I'd ever seen. And you hear a thirty
Speaker 9: four year old guy connecting old and young, and that's
Speaker 9: really what they want here. Liam Cohen's going to have
Speaker 9: a lot of control of this ship. James Gladstone's going
Speaker 9: to bring in his scouting foundation from the Rams, and
Speaker 9: the high school teacher bit you told earlier is a
Speaker 9: big part of what he does talking to people who
Speaker 9: know him. His communication ability comes from his ability to
Speaker 9: teach as a kid, and that's really what he got.
Speaker 9: Listening got him out of that area I also thought
Speaker 9: it was interesting listening to him. The Rams had twenty
Speaker 9: four picks over the last two years. Jacksonville has more
Speaker 9: picks than any other team over the next two years.
Speaker 9: They're hoping they can replicate some of the Britain fists,
Speaker 9: the jerk versus the Puka nakouas that the Rams were
Speaker 9: able to do and take this JAG's organization to the
Speaker 9: next level. You have Liam Cohen who's going to try
Speaker 9: to get the most out of Trevor Lawrence. But I
Speaker 9: expect this Jags team to really focus on the trenches,
Speaker 9: offensive and defensive line, trying to get Jacksonville back to
Speaker 9: where they were in twenty twenty two when they were
Speaker 9: winning divisions in playoff games.
Speaker 5: I am so curious to hear more from them when
Speaker 5: they get here about what they're going to do to
Speaker 5: support Trevor Lawrence, because let's say said, we thought Trevor
Speaker 5: Lawrence was ascending only a few years ago when they
Speaker 5: made that push into the playoffs, and it has stalled
Speaker 5: and declined since then. And they have an opportunity. She said,
Speaker 5: They've got a ton of draft capital to use. What
Speaker 5: can they put around Trevor Lawrence to get the most
Speaker 5: out of him and to turn things around pretty quickly
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville. All right, let's go up a little bit
Speaker 5: the coast to Atlanta. Cam there's obviously quite a bit
Speaker 5: of uncertainty about the kirk Cousins situation. They've got their
Speaker 5: young quarterback in place. What are you hearing from there?
Speaker 9: Yeah, a big question tomorrow both Terry Fondo and Rahem Morris,
Speaker 9: what are you going to do with Kirk Cousins. And
Speaker 9: we may have a little bit of a game of
Speaker 9: staredown here because kirk Cousins is do a guaranteed contract,
Speaker 9: big money deal, and he has a no trade clause.
Speaker 9: The Falcons have talked to fon no towards the end
Speaker 9: of the year. He said, We're not just going to
Speaker 9: release kirk Cousins. We want to be able to either
Speaker 9: get some draft capital out of it, get some value
Speaker 9: out of it, or we're going to keep him as
Speaker 9: the backup. Well, March seventeenth, he has a roster bonus
Speaker 9: due that's a deadline of sorts we can see, and
Speaker 9: we're going to see who really budgets first. Does kirk
Speaker 9: Cousins work with them on a trade or does he
Speaker 9: take his preferred route and wait and see if he
Speaker 9: can get released. I think that's going to be an
Speaker 9: interesting question for them. They are already, oh, he already.
Speaker 9: He's going to get the money regardless, and so it's
Speaker 9: how the process goes. They know Michael Pennick is their
Speaker 9: future quarterback twenty twenty five. He's going forward as a
Speaker 9: talk to the Falcons brass. They raved about his poise,
Speaker 9: his ability to come in in a late situation, starting
Speaker 9: three games off the bench without any prep. They think
Speaker 9: that he's going to be a superstar in this thing.
Speaker 9: And now they're just going to deal with this awkward situation.
Speaker 9: Their Kirk Cousins is.
Speaker 2: Sunking calls for them essentially.
Speaker 9: Now it's just how they deal with it, and I'm
Speaker 9: sure find Noah get blasted with questions.
Speaker 6: It's a sunking cost, but it's a payment toward potentially
Speaker 6: getting more back in draft capital, certainly rather than releasing
Speaker 6: him obviously. But even by paying that money, you're making
Speaker 6: him more attractive to the next team because while the
Speaker 6: price tag is lower.
Speaker 2: So know, with a salary cap now.
Speaker 6: Approaching three hundred million, I know that this is going
Speaker 6: to come off the wrong way. But ten thousand or
Speaker 6: ten million dollars to the Falcons almost feels like a
Speaker 6: drop in the bucket.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so.
Speaker 9: And find though mention when I talk to them that
Speaker 9: they were willing to work the money out if it
Speaker 9: made sense for another team. And so maybe you have
Speaker 9: a little negotiations here in the combine. That's part of
Speaker 9: those conversations. If you really want Kirk Cousins, maybe you
Speaker 9: can jump the wine and get them at a discount.
Speaker 6: I don't know how they're going to answer it tomorrow,
Speaker 6: but my belief is that we're going to come away
Speaker 6: saying the Falcons don't look like they're in any rush
Speaker 6: to do anything here with Kirk Cousins. And this almost
Speaker 6: feels like something that you know, yes, the start of
Speaker 6: the league year when trades start to happen, but also
Speaker 6: maybe even to the draft and through the draft where
Speaker 6: perhaps that could happen and Kirk Cousins is not there
Speaker 6: for the spring program.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Cam, thank you very much. Thank you, enjoy the
Speaker 5: rest of your week. We'll see you. Maybe I'm here,
Speaker 5: I'm here you.
Speaker 2: At getting off that easy here hot list.
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Speaker 1: pilot Jalen Hurts. On the field, He's, well, what do
Speaker 1: we look can we had him on?
Speaker 6: Well, we had him, we had him on here from
Speaker 6: Disney World, and I said to him, I said, you
Speaker 6: guys are.
Speaker 2: Gonna be partying all spring. How to meet off spring?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: I was just saying, like, there'll be celebrations on of
Speaker 6: the ring. Ceremony will be at the end of the
Speaker 6: spring session. And he's like, not offspring. He wanted to
Speaker 6: be clear that he was going to get back to work.
Speaker 6: He saw Lane Johnson the other day squatting three hundred
Speaker 6: and fifteen pounds deep squat. You see Jalen Hurt's back
Speaker 6: doing the on field work. The Eagles want to defend
Speaker 6: that title.
Speaker 1: There's probably doing some squats occasionally here. Well, they still
Speaker 1: be valuable. In twenty twenty five, well, the Packers propose
Speaker 1: a ban on the tush push play. This was a
Speaker 1: matter of time. It'say that doesn't necessarily always look like
Speaker 1: a football play. The Eagles have executed better than anybody,
Speaker 1: which is the justification that the Competition Committee has given
Speaker 1: in the past for why they are not banning the play.
Speaker 1: Troy Vinson spoke with our Judy Batista about.
Speaker 2: This very thing.
Speaker 3: Well, we do have a club playing rule proposal. I'm
Speaker 3: not I can't reference to club today, but we do
Speaker 3: have a formal proposal to look at eliminating the tush push.
Speaker 5: Where you think the committee is going to be on that, we.
Speaker 3: Will find out because two years ago a lot of
Speaker 3: discussion around hip drop, which we haven't talked to you know,
Speaker 3: hip drop. We made tremendous progress in that particular. Hip
Speaker 3: drop and a tush push was in the same conversation
Speaker 3: three years ago. A year ago, we felt like, let's
Speaker 3: just focus in on the hip drop tackle and the
Speaker 3: tush push to say, hey, the Philadelphia Eagles, they just
Speaker 3: do it better than everyone else.
Speaker 2: But there's some concerns.
Speaker 3: Our Health and Safety Committee has laid it out today
Speaker 3: with a brief conversation the on the injury report. There's
Speaker 3: some challenge to concerns that they have that they'll share
Speaker 3: with the broader group tomorrow, but the tush push will
Speaker 3: become a topic of discussion, you know, moving into into March,
Speaker 3: I did not talk about the hip drop, which I
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about the hip drop.
Speaker 3: Then we've made We've made tremendous progress. We had twenty
Speaker 3: seven that we felt like that were had one called
Speaker 3: on the field. But moving that tackle type out of
Speaker 3: the game, you know, you still have a you know,
Speaker 3: a year ago was a twenty x injury rate on
Speaker 3: that tackle. We're still in that scene. You're still having
Speaker 3: players miss time when all of those the sados areas
Speaker 3: show up. But we had twenty seven. We were seeing
Speaker 3: that two to three times a weekend a year ago.
Speaker 3: So the players have made a wonderful adjustment, the coaches
Speaker 3: have made a wonderful adjustment, and we're hoping that trickles
Speaker 3: down to the collegiate level.
Speaker 2: In the high school level.
Speaker 5: Are you anticipating a tweak to that rule in a
Speaker 5: way that would allow them to throw flags on the
Speaker 5: field and instead of waiting for the after the fact
Speaker 5: finds still learning?
Speaker 2: Is still learning?
Speaker 3: Good question, Judy, and what we shared with the membership
Speaker 3: of a year ago it's a tough foul to see
Speaker 3: real time. It's like the horse call. It took some time.
Speaker 3: Like the use of helmet, it took a little bit
Speaker 3: of time. The more they see it, the more they
Speaker 3: become accustomed. Again, we had one that was called this
Speaker 3: year Arizona Carolina. It was incorrectly called, but real time
Speaker 3: it looked like all three or four of those elements exist.
Speaker 3: So we're going to keep at it, keep chopping away,
Speaker 3: keep showing the video. The officials we're here with us.
Speaker 3: They had our Super Bowl crew. They were outstanding in
Speaker 3: the engagement, asking questions and then sharing their opinion about
Speaker 3: how we could be more consistent from Crew one to
Speaker 3: Crew seventeen on off outs.
Speaker 5: Troy, thank you, thank you so.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the toush push evolved out of the classic quarterback sneak.
Speaker 1: There are shades of gray to all these things. If
Speaker 1: you couldn't see hip up a lot of the time
Speaker 1: last year to throw a flag, I would think tushbush
Speaker 1: would be pretty straightforward. But I have to imagine Judy,
Speaker 1: no matter what type of rule they potentially would institute,
Speaker 1: if this in fact even advances through the Competition Committee,
Speaker 1: there's going to still be ways that people scheme around it.
Speaker 1: So what, if anything, could this end up lookinglike?
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing about the tush push. There are
Speaker 5: rules against aiding the runner. There used to be rules
Speaker 5: against dating the runner, but that was like pulling the runner, right,
Speaker 5: This is obviously pushing the runner, so they would have
Speaker 5: to decide on that. He mentioned injury data. There's not
Speaker 5: much injury data on the tush push because it doesn't
Speaker 5: get run all that often, thankfully knock on wood, so
Speaker 5: there's not a ton of injuries related to it. If
Speaker 5: there were more injuries involved, then you could imagine a
Speaker 5: health and safety push to get it out of the game,
Speaker 5: but that's not the case. The thing to keep in
Speaker 5: mind is they didn't like the way it looked this
Speaker 5: When the Washington commanders kept jumping the line over and
Speaker 5: over and over, there were people in the LEGALISTI sort
Speaker 5: of made a farce at the play. It looked terrible.
Speaker 5: Do you really want that? So that's an element too
Speaker 5: of people saying that was not a good look. There's
Speaker 5: also just an element of people who say, like this
Speaker 5: just doesn't look like a football play, Like should we
Speaker 5: have this in the game now? Is that enough to
Speaker 5: get twenty four votes. Twenty four votes. As we know
Speaker 5: for all rules changes, is a big threshold to reach.
Speaker 5: Not sure we're going to get there, and certainly there
Speaker 5: is the counter argument like if you don't like it,
Speaker 5: stop it, and everybody will stop running it.
Speaker 2: The commander, did we.
Speaker 5: Hear from the Philadelphia reporter?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the command How about the common sense reporter.
Speaker 2: I'll be that guy.
Speaker 6: The Commander's jumping over the piles a commander's problem.
Speaker 2: It's not an Eagles problem. It's not a health and
Speaker 2: safety problem. You gotta have the discipline to not jump. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it makes it a little bit harder.
Speaker 6: And the fact that the Eagles do this so well,
Speaker 6: if Michael Robinson we're here, are colleague here at NFL Network,
Speaker 6: he would point out that Jalen Hurts almost always falls.
Speaker 2: To the left. Now, please don't shows I say, I
Speaker 2: don't show him fall into it.
Speaker 6: Right now, because Jordan Malana is the one that really
Speaker 6: gets to push there and something that the Eagles are
Speaker 6: good at.
Speaker 2: And that's not a reason to doubt law a play.
Speaker 6: Now, if you want to talk about health and safety
Speaker 6: and say Chris Jones got hurt in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: well maybe you shouldn't teach that technique and ask him
Speaker 6: to do that. I understand why they tried to do that,
Speaker 6: but that resulted in an injury. But that's because a
Speaker 6: guy was going sideways when everybody else is going forward.
Speaker 6: So I understand all the concerns, but there's just not
Speaker 6: enough from a health and safety standpoint, which is how
Speaker 6: we see rules changes.
Speaker 4: Right, you understand the concerns, but you don't care about it.
Speaker 4: You mentioned earlier in the show you said YadA YadA.
Speaker 4: I heard you talking and it was really more like
Speaker 4: YadA YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a football play. It just doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true football. You want to go,
Speaker 2: we'll go on that.
Speaker 4: This right here is not going to It's really no,
Speaker 4: it's not it's really I'm sorry, it's really not.
Speaker 2: It's it's rugby.
Speaker 4: It's Australian rules football, and I will may Good at
Speaker 4: my Alta is an Australian football player, but he doesn't
Speaker 4: play Australian news football. And the fact that other teams
Speaker 4: aren't as good at it doesn't really have anything to
Speaker 4: do with the fact that the Eagles are too.
Speaker 2: Good at it.
Speaker 4: And the fact that it's not really a football play.
Speaker 4: So like you could say all the things you want,
Speaker 4: lack of injury data, you can talk about Chris Jones,
Speaker 4: all the things.
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of football. You guys won't see
Speaker 2: a lot of football that doesn't all good for you.
Speaker 6: And do we have research here, because if they get
Speaker 6: twenty four votes on this, there's gonna be twenty four teams.
Speaker 2: That ran this thing. So you're out on something that
Speaker 2: even you ran.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 5: I think what some people in the league really fear
Speaker 5: is that it looks like the kind of play where
Speaker 5: there could be a serious injury that someday a quarterback
Speaker 5: is going to go in there and their shoulder is
Speaker 5: going to get dislocated. Then we'll talk about that. You
Speaker 5: don't get to that moment somebody sacrifice their shoulder, and
Speaker 5: then Mike will be.
Speaker 1: Interesting Howie online one for Ian coming up after this
Speaker 1: for really earlier today, his quarterback's pretty good at the
Speaker 1: toush Bush. The quarterbacks sneak as well.
Speaker 2: Maybe that came up.
Speaker 1: They'll talk about some others maybe what they can add
Speaker 1: to try to get over that. Chiefs hump. Sean McDermott
Speaker 1: with the Insiders next in Senators.
Speaker 10: I ever, Mindy, what.
Speaker 4: I don't think we had any idea at the time
Speaker 4: what we were looking at and whether Josh Allen would
Speaker 4: be the eventual MVP. All don't even talked about the time.
Speaker 4: Was how an accurate he was? Yeah, he could throw,
Speaker 4: but can he get this side of the bar? And
Speaker 4: turns out the Bills were like, you know what, we're
Speaker 4: gonna go through every throw. We're gonna figure out how
Speaker 4: accurate he would it be if he had receivers who
Speaker 4: could catch.
Speaker 2: They drafted him. The rest is history. Obviously, Josh Allen
Speaker 2: this year one of the best.
Speaker 4: Seasons, probably the best season of his career leading that
Speaker 4: Bills team. Not gonna say by himself, but you know,
Speaker 4: without as much help as usual. Anyway, Josh Allen one
Speaker 4: of the great combined performers of the last decade or so.
Speaker 4: We got plenty more on the Bills coming up, though,
Speaker 4: especially because our good friend Judy Bautista talk with coach
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott earlier today.
Speaker 5: Sean, you've had a little bit of time to reflect
Speaker 5: on how the season went, what you accomplished, how it ended.
Speaker 5: What are your takeaways?
Speaker 10: Well, I thought we had a good year you know,
Speaker 10: one of the harder things to do in our league
Speaker 10: is sustaining success, and we've been able to do that
Speaker 10: now for quite some time. The challenge is still remaining, right,
Speaker 10: is how how we get to the super Bowl and
Speaker 10: win and win a world championship. So that's that's where
Speaker 10: we're at. But I think the important piece is not
Speaker 10: losing sight of the success.
Speaker 5: We had, all right. The obvious question then is how
Speaker 5: how do you take that step. You've had success against
Speaker 5: the Chiefs and the regular season, the postseason has been
Speaker 5: a stumbling what how do you get over that hurdle?
Speaker 10: Finally, Well, listen, we've been, you know, pretty close to
Speaker 10: being in a good position to win those at least
Speaker 10: the last two games in the playoffs. We've beaten them
Speaker 10: in the in the regular season. To your point, but
Speaker 10: I don't I don't ever think it's about one team.
Speaker 10: It's really about us getting as good as we can
Speaker 10: possibly get this season, so that whoever shows up in
Speaker 10: those games are self included, that that we're able to
Speaker 10: rise to that challenge.
Speaker 5: To that point, what are the priorities in this offseason
Speaker 5: in terms of adding to your roster.
Speaker 10: Well, number one is always going to be judy how
Speaker 10: we retain our players. You know, there's a market out
Speaker 10: there for all these players, and so it's important for
Speaker 10: us that we get as many of those players back
Speaker 10: as we can and then and to look to add
Speaker 10: from there.
Speaker 5: All Right, one final one. There's an awful lot of
Speaker 5: chatter out there about you all needing a game wrecker
Speaker 5: on defense. How much of a priority is that for you?
Speaker 10: Well, I've always said, good players, great players make make
Speaker 10: coaches look better. So I'm a great coach when I've
Speaker 10: got I'm a lot better coach, I would say when
Speaker 10: I've got great players. And we have great players and
Speaker 10: very fortunate to coach those guys. But hey, all the
Speaker 10: great players that want to come to Buffalo?
Speaker 2: Come on?
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Speaker 1: Some positive results from recent NFL data regarding concussions which
Speaker 1: reached a historic low in the twenty twenty four NFL
Speaker 1: season of product a variety of factors, including some of
Speaker 1: those new helmets that have been developed in recent years.
Speaker 1: NFL executive Jeff Miller, who oversees the league's safety efforts,
Speaker 1: spoke earlier today with our buddy Judy Batiste.
Speaker 5: Jeff, you obviously got a very good report on concussions
Speaker 5: from the twenty twenty four season. What are you looking
Speaker 5: at this offseason to try to drive that down even further.
Speaker 11: Yeah, a couple of elements. Since your point, concussions were
Speaker 11: at their lowest level that we've seen in the last
Speaker 11: ten years, since we've really been recording the data with
Speaker 11: a great deal of accuracy, so that's encouraging.
Speaker 2: We talked about a couple elements.
Speaker 5: With the Competition Committee.
Speaker 11: One was with the a be of better and better
Speaker 11: and better helmets, how to move more players into those.
Speaker 11: Not a surprise in year one than you'd have one
Speaker 11: hundred percent adoption of the best performing helmets, but we
Speaker 11: need to push more players into those, and we showed,
Speaker 11: based on some analysis that we did, the increased risk
Speaker 11: for players who aren't wearing those, so literally, some players
Speaker 11: are at a twenty five or thirty percent greater risk
Speaker 11: of injury because they're wearing helmets that are not performing
Speaker 11: as well as the new best ones. So can we
Speaker 11: move more hundreds of players into those helmets That would
Speaker 11: obviously advance safety for the game. We talked a little
Speaker 11: bit about expanding replay assists for player safety fouls because
Speaker 11: obviously we want fewer helmet to helmet impacts, specifically fewer
Speaker 11: high speed helmet to helmet impacts which have a greater
Speaker 11: likelihood of causing injury either that day or to whatever
Speaker 11: body parts, specifically head injuries. But how would we go
Speaker 11: about doing that. We have the files in place, they're
Speaker 11: hard to call. We have enforcement after the fact in place.
Speaker 11: Fines and such are the things that we can do
Speaker 11: with replay assists to expand the likelihood that officials are
Speaker 11: going to call those on field. So that was a
Speaker 11: conversation with the committee as well.
Speaker 1: Judy, you've been camped outside of the Competition Committee meetings
Speaker 1: for the past server. It is glad they allowed you
Speaker 1: to come here with me, Tom Pellisero here inside Lucas
Speaker 1: Soil Stadium. What are other big takeaways from what you
Speaker 1: heard from Jeff Miller and others there.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: First, just to start on what he mentioned about replay assist,
Speaker 5: they would not use replay assist. It sounds like to
Speaker 5: throw a flag that has not already been thrown on
Speaker 5: the fields. But what it would do is if it's
Speaker 5: a help and safety issue, like hitting somebody in the
Speaker 5: head face mask, they would encourage officials to just throw
Speaker 5: the flag even if they have a little bit of
Speaker 5: a doubt, and then replay assist can make sure they
Speaker 5: are correct. We'll see if they actually go that route.
Speaker 5: The other thing is on kickoffs, the dynamic kickoff, which
Speaker 5: they got really good results. They were happy with it.
Speaker 5: In year one, they got more returns and the rate
Speaker 5: of concussion dropped significantly forty percent or so. The question
Speaker 5: they are looking at, can they get even more returns
Speaker 5: and still keep the concussion rate low. So they are
Speaker 5: looking at two different things. Either moving the kickoff line
Speaker 5: back five yards, which means obviously it would be a
Speaker 5: longer kick for it to go into the end zone,
Speaker 5: or do they move the touch back line up to
Speaker 5: the thirty five yard line, which means the receiving team
Speaker 5: would start the drive on the thirty five yard line.
Speaker 5: If you kick it into the end zone or out
Speaker 5: of the end zone. It sounds like they are leaning
Speaker 5: more toward that because, as Rich McKay, who is the
Speaker 5: coacher of the Competition Committee said, he doesn't think moving
Speaker 5: the kickoff back five yards would do anything because kickers
Speaker 5: are so good right now everybody can can kick it
Speaker 5: into the end zone. The other thing they're looking at
Speaker 5: is do they need to tweak the onside kick, which
Speaker 5: is basically a ceremonial play. Now it's almost dead, it's nothing,
Speaker 5: and special teams coaches who have been part of these
Speaker 5: meetings are coming up with a plan that maybe could
Speaker 5: they change the alignment on onside kicks and that way
Speaker 5: the onside kick would become a more viable play. Again,
Speaker 5: I didn't know this, but the historic rate of recovering
Speaker 5: an on side kick is only thirteen point five percent,
Speaker 5: So they don't have to tweak it much to get
Speaker 5: it up that there's just not that many on side kicks.
Speaker 5: You're not recovering that many. They'd like to get it
Speaker 5: to be a more active play.
Speaker 1: And of course they've been proposals four years, namely by
Speaker 1: the Eagles, to try out a fourth and fifteen or
Speaker 1: fourth and twenty alternative one play make it, take it,
Speaker 1: you convert the first down, you get the ball. They're
Speaker 1: the detractors who say it's just too gimmicky, it's too
Speaker 1: far outside of the scope of what football has looked
Speaker 1: like in the past, to the point too on the
Speaker 1: kickoff and potentially moving the touchback line. That's something I've
Speaker 1: been told they were planning to do in the first place.
Speaker 1: They need to get the data first. Drive the numbers down. Now,
Speaker 1: let's see if we can drive them back up. I
Speaker 1: know Russell is not the tallest quarterback that ever came
Speaker 1: through a combine book. We get them some shorter short style.
Speaker 1: That was that long ago is twenty twelve. Pete Carroll,
Speaker 1: John Snider. The're the ones who drafted Russell Wilson. Pete's
Speaker 1: back and in the back on a road coach boarding group,
Speaker 1: the man of the people, Matthew Edwards, h bet Carol
Speaker 1: back with the Raiders still flying out from Seattle. Here,
Speaker 1: there's got a lot of good memories here, Judy, your
Speaker 1: favorite combine memory.
Speaker 5: I really love to watch fast people run. I like
Speaker 5: to watch great runners run, like in the Olympics. I
Speaker 5: like to watch the sprinters and that is how I
Speaker 5: feel at the combine so xavier Worthy last year, all
Speaker 5: of the guys who run really fast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my favorite was actually the xavier Worthy thing last year,
Speaker 4: and I was I was here. I happened to be
Speaker 4: filming for the old Instagram and it was like electric
Speaker 4: Like everyone started murmuring at the same time when he
Speaker 4: finished running, knowing that they just witnessed something unbelievably cool,
Speaker 4: Like I don't think I'll forget that that buzz for quite.
Speaker 2: So filming him or yourself. No, him, not myself. I
Speaker 2: wasn't running at all.
Speaker 1: Because most of the time you're just holding the phone
Speaker 1: towards her face.
Speaker 2: He forget the field people do nowadays. I don't care
Speaker 2: what happens in the field. I mean I sort of care,
Speaker 2: but I really.
Speaker 6: In Thursday NFL, Mike doesn't care who it is because
Speaker 6: I love the coaching, GM cutaways in the crowd, Belichick.
Speaker 2: Reaching for the popcorn.
Speaker 6: You get to John Payton with the monoculars that he
Speaker 6: had backwards because he was seeing it from afar.
Speaker 2: After Bounty Gate, He's used to seeing it from that way.
Speaker 2: I made that joke back then. It was a good joke.
Speaker 2: I didn't that didn't really land.
Speaker 1: If you're the twin brother of another executive, wear a
Speaker 1: name today before you fall asleep in the sands. We
Speaker 1: had a lot of things. We got this two hour
Speaker 1: spectacular tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Look at this. We got everybody on the show.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 2: You be here, see you then,