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Speaker 1: Hey everybody. Yeah, welcome back to Ridiculous a Romance. I'm Eli,

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Speaker 1: I'm Diana. We're so happy to have you always. I

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Speaker 1: was just laughing at myself, Diana in here, because I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking back to last year or even you know, it's

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Speaker 1: our first year when we're doing this show, and we

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Speaker 1: spent so much time before every record going into the

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Speaker 1: bathroom and pinning sound blankets to the walls and you know,

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Speaker 1: busting out this table and all this elaborate equipment. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: fast forward, I'm now like sitting on the couch with

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Speaker 1: the microphone on the coffee table. You're in the other room.

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Speaker 1: We just got a long chord to separate us. I'll

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Speaker 1: take out the echo in post. It's just like we

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Speaker 1: It's kind of been nice to reflect on how much

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Speaker 1: we've learned. I can't do anything for two years and

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Speaker 1: listened to some early episodes and we've changed. We've come along. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've come along way, yeah, but like in a good way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought we did a really good job

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Speaker 1: that like we didn't say good enough and stay there? Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: You know, so men cleaning up around the house a

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Speaker 1: little bit? Who wants an original Lord of the Rings

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Speaker 1: collectors set of as dispensers? Because I look it up,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've we've had this sitting on our shelf

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Speaker 1: I looked it up on eBay and they're going for

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Speaker 1: upwards of twelve dollars. So how much it was a gift?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It was in my stocking one year.

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Speaker 1: I bet it was thirty dollars. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was like I remember seeing him at CVS. Oh

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Speaker 1: they're probably nine, okay, t ninety nine. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's like what twelve characters in there? Is it the

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Speaker 1: entire fellow? Yeah, I guess that's nine, isn't it? Famously?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a Gollum too. I feel like they

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Speaker 1: left somebody ten. I should have it in front of

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Speaker 1: Because it's going in the first store box right child

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Speaker 1: will be very happy. Pet As is still in there.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Pez can expire. I think Pez

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Speaker 1: will be on this earth long after we're all gone.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Pez and cockroaches, yes, all alone, living in harmony,

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Speaker 1: happy as clams. Well, anyway, let's get to the story.

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Speaker 1: It cares about Pez, right, um, Pez, we are open

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Speaker 1: to a sponsorship at any time. This story was suggested

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Speaker 1: by Simon chingweti one on Twitter, and he also suggested

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Speaker 1: Amy Bach, which is one of my favorite stories about

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Speaker 1: the sweetest con woman in the world, So please go

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Speaker 1: check that episode out and Simon delivered again with this

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Speaker 1: suggestion as well. Um, today we are talking about Isabelle

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Speaker 1: and Jean gordends DNA, who were married in seventeen forty

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Speaker 1: incredible and harrowing journey to get back to her husband's

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Speaker 1: stuff that epics are made of. So let's hear all

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Speaker 1: about her tracks through the Amazon jungle to reunite with

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Speaker 1: French conlistion. Well, Elia and Diana got some stories to tell.

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Speaker 1: There's no matchmaking. All romantic tips it's just about ridiculous relationshifts.

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Speaker 1: A lover might be any type of person at all,

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Speaker 1: a story where the second clans ridiculous romans a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Isabel was born in real Bamba in the

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Speaker 1: grandmaisonn Bruno, a government administrator. Isabel was well educated. She

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Speaker 1: that's your thing, If that's your thing. Jean Godem des

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Speaker 1: a letter has started a war problem. Dear King of Portugal,

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Speaker 1: France immediately. Well. Finally, in seventeen sixty five, Jean's old boss,

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Speaker 1: would wait on the sand bar for them to so

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00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: a classic we need to split up scenario. Yeah, that

423
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: always works. Two weeks later, there was no sign of

424
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: the doctor or Joaquin, and isabel and her group were

425
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: being beset by biting insects. And we're talking Amazonian biting

426
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: insects here, okay, so bigger than gregular mosquitoes, prehistoric you know,

427
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: mosquitoes and bot flies and all these bites were starting

428
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: to get infected and some of them were not sure

429
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: exactly who, but likely the Canilos Natives died on the

430
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: sandbar from infection. The rest of them built their own

431
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: raft to take down the river. They're like, we can't

432
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: stay here anymore. We got to do something, but the

433
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: raft quickly capsized and most of their remaining supplies went

434
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: into the water. They were left to continue the journey

435
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: through the jungle on foot, and bug bites continued to

436
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: fester and people continued to die. First Isabel's ten year

437
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: old few and then the Frenchman, then one by one,

438
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: each of her maids, and finally both of her brothers.

439
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Isabelle was now completely alone in the Amazon rainforest, her

440
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: entire family dead around her, with no hope of rescue.

441
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: No one knew where she was God and they do.

442
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: They point that out in some of the sources, is

443
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: that they were trying to just follow the river. At

444
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: the river you know, twists and turns. Yeah, so it

445
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: wasn't really the most direct route right to where they

446
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: were going. So they were just kind of wandering and

447
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: getting turned around and not knowing where to go. And

448
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: again they were very worried about food because a lot

449
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: of the food, edible things are toxic in the rainforest,

450
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: so they weren't finding a lot of food. It was

451
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: just a just a horrible situation all around. I mean, Plus,

452
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: if you aren't familiar the Amazon rainforest, it's pretty dense.

453
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of walking paths easily through it,

454
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: and of course things trying to kill you. Yeah. I

455
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: actually my fifth grade class but an acre I believe

456
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: of the Amazon rainforest. So I would just be down

457
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: there trying to ask if I could get to that please.

458
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: I own a piece of it. Excuse me, can you

459
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: tell me where mister Green's fifth grade classes acre is,

460
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: because I believe it's around here somewhere, got ben, I

461
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: own that so well. And keep in mind, like it's

462
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: some parts of the rainforests are hard to get through.

463
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: Two days and this is seventeen forty, you know, like

464
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: her seventeen sixty nine, right, so they had a lot

465
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: done as much logging exactly as we have done. Eight days.

466
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: She just you know, wandering through the thick jungle and

467
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: then finally gets to an open field and she's like, ah,

468
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: the McDonald's Gray's lands. Finally, God, well, okay, so Isabelle's

469
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: all alone, she's wandering around away from the sandbar, right,

470
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: they have left. Meanwhile, the doctor and Joachim arrived back

471
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: at the sandbar. They did come back, but all they

472
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: found were dead bodies and no trace of Isabelle. So

473
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: the doctor assumed she had died, and he sold all

474
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: the belongings that she had left with him, and he

475
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: started spreading the sad news around about her death, including

476
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: to her father, Don Pedro and her husband, Jean Goden.

477
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: Don Pedro of course, was waiting at the boat, right,

478
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: that's right, and I'm assuming that both of them were like,

479
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: let's just make sure, like we don't know what. You

480
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: didn't see her body, you know what I mean. They

481
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: must have fought to keep the galliot there after this

482
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: rumor was going, oh I died. You know, there must

483
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: have been some conversation with this captain. I mean, these

484
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: guys are good at holding out hope, right, I mean

485
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: it's been twenty years already. Yeah, you're not about to

486
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: turn around at this point. I just think it's incredible

487
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: because he feels like the captain, especially after waiting four

488
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: years already. Yeah, they're like, oh she died, you know.

489
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: He's like, well, all right, time to turn around. He's

490
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: probably like somebody finally said it instead. You know, I've

491
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: been thinking that for a couple of years now. And

492
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: so Don Pedro was actually with the captain, unlike Johan

493
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: goodwn right, So Don Pedro must have been the one

494
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: to really be like, don't you fucking I want to

495
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: see her dead body before I'm willing to give up. Yeah. Now,

496
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: sources do get a little muddled here, but at some

497
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: point Joachim and the doctor must have split up, because

498
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: Joachim arrived in some town without Isabel and was actually

499
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: arrested on suspicion of having murdered her. Oh excuse me,

500
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: all right, Like he told them, Isabel planned to free

501
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: him as a reward for helping around this journey. But

502
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: I guess authorities must have decided that he killed her

503
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: or free himself more quickly or something, because they just

504
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: locked him up. I'm sure they're all a likely story, right,

505
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: they're not British. British. It's because I'm not going to

506
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: try my Portuguese accent again. Okay, that's a smart idea.

507
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: So poor Joachim languishing in jail for a crime he

508
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: didn't commit. Awful. But of course Isabel was not dead, right,

509
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: She's incredibly determined and strong willed. Again, she has not

510
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: given up by now, she ain't gonna give up. In

511
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: the jungle, she took off her dead brother's boots and

512
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: carved them into a pair of sandals, and then she

513
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: set off through the jungle alone. Now, remember she started

514
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: this journey as a pretty forty year old matron riding

515
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: in a sedan chair, carried through the jungle, accompanied with

516
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: shrunks of jewelry and fine clothes. And now look at

517
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: this badass. She's like bit draggled, she's starving. She's got

518
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: like her clothes all ripped and tattered, so she's wearing

519
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: a scarf as a shirt, and she was covered in

520
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: bug bites and parasites. She's probably biting the heads off

521
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: a little monkeys to survive, you know. It's like punching

522
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: snakes left and right out of my way, smacking down mosquitos.

523
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: But though she had she had bought flies on her

524
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: two and those literally leaved maggots under your skin and

525
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: in your gi tracks, so she's not feeling great. She

526
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: also didn't have a compass, she had no idea which

527
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: direction she should go, so she just wandered alone for

528
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: eight days in the rainforest before she finally collapsed, exhausted

529
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: on the jungle floor. But thankfully she wasn't as alone

530
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: as she thought she was. And we'll find out how

531
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: this epic journey ends right after this. Welcome back, everybody

532
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: to the thrilling conclusion of Isabel's journey through the rainforest.

533
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: So Isabel had collapsed and she was close to death

534
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: at this point, but fortunately she was found by a

535
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: group of natives who were out hunting, including two women

536
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: and isabel thought they might kill her because she looked

537
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: so insane after all her days alone. Again, we kind

538
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: of described it. She's starving, she's bedraggled, she's dirty. You know,

539
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: she looks crazy. So she revealed herself. She told them

540
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: who she was and what she was doing there. And

541
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: the native women picked her up, and they took her

542
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: to their home, which was a nearby mission, and they

543
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: nursed her back to health. They cleaned her bug bites,

544
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: they rid her of the bot flies and the other

545
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: parasites that she had. They gave her food and water

546
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: and a safe place to sleep. And Isabelle was there

547
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: for a full month, gaining her strength back. One of

548
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: her hands was disabled and her hair turned permanently gray,

549
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: but she was alive. Yeah, I would imagine that would

550
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: take a toll on your hair. Oh my god. And

551
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what happened to her hand. I mean, maybe

552
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: one of those monkeys, she was, maybe one of those

553
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: snakes bite She punched a snake and broke her fingers

554
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and punch. Well, of course, she's so grateful to these

555
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: women who saved your life that she gave them one

556
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: of the only nice things that she had left two

557
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: gold necklaces that she was wearing, and this would have

558
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: been enough to set these ladies and their families up

559
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: for life. Fancy these probably these people probably never saw

560
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: that kind of gold. But guess what. The priests of

561
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: the mission promptly confiscated the gold and gave the natives

562
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: about three to four yards of cotton instead. Unbelievable. Oh,

563
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: it's practically the same. I feel like three to four

564
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: yards isn't even enough to make an outfit. No, here's

565
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: a let me check my pockets. Here a length of yarn. Okay,

566
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: here you go. Oh, I know, you just got like

567
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: transformational wealth. I will take that and replace it with

568
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: some garbage. They tell like, oh, we actually just got

569
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: news from Europe. Actually no one's using gold anymore, so

570
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty worthless. Why don't we take it off your hands?

571
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, the real currency of the future is three

572
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: to four yards. It's the fabric of our lives. Well,

573
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: Isabelle finds out about this, and she is furious. She's like,

574
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: that's that was my gift to these ladies. But she

575
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: was also very devout, so she felt like she couldn't

576
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: talk back to the priests. Right, I'm just a woman.

577
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: What can I do at this point, I'm sure she

578
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, oh, excuse me, you did blah. Oh,

579
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: she's in the shower. She's saying all the things she

580
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: wants to say, but she can't, having a whole argument

581
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: in her head. And then they'd be down in the ground.

582
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: They'd be saying, I'm so sorry, miss Ensabelle, please forgive me.

583
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: What can I do for you? Right now? I would

584
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: be like, I would say, be a better priest, I

585
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: think about your constituents, flock, and then I would change

586
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: the world and from then on every would have to

587
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: be dave different anyway, showers over, we don't have showers here,

588
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: and now I gotta go just be quiet. I better

589
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: sit quietly, be seen and not heard. So she's super pissed.

590
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: She knows she can't yell these priests, but she could leave,

591
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: so she did that. The biggest insult is just that

592
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: I can do is just to walk away. But I'm

593
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: not saying goodbye, thank you very much. Right, and a

594
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: couple of the natives there helped her get finally to

595
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: the waiting Portuguese galliot. Finally only arrived her father's there.

596
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I knew it. The captain is like, ooops,

597
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I thought she was dead, but here she is. He

598
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: like punches a hole through his captain's hat. Damn um

599
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: he'd been. He put a lot of money on it.

600
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm guessing the speculation station. This guy put like fifty dubloons.

601
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were using. L's yea four

602
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: years never bet against Isabel. That's why he punched his hat.

603
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: That's right through well in the month that she'd been

604
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: recovering with these dative women. Uh, the story of her

605
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: epic journey that she chared with them had started to

606
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: get around. So as the galliot proceeded back towards French

607
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: Guiana on the east coast, she was apparently recognized and

608
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: given grand receptions. Anywhere they stopped, They're like, oh my god,

609
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: you're the lady from the thing that cool story we heard, right,

610
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: lady was punching snakes, which I kind of love because,

611
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: like the rumors all throughout this story, you can kind

612
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: of see a big game of telephone you played all

613
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: through a whole country, and it just like, I don't know,

614
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: to me, it just brings people to life because you

615
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: know the word so that you know, there's not that

616
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: much going on in these small towns with the same

617
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: five families living a numb or whatever, and so whenever

618
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: you do hear a cool story, you tell everybody, like

619
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: if the word gets around, so even without newspapers and stuff, like,

620
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: people were still, you know, pretty up nimbulation. It'd be like,

621
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, literally Captain Marvel shows up in your town

622
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I've heard all these stories about you.

623
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: I used to read your comics. I wonder how the

624
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: telephone game did get misconstrued if they were like, oh,

625
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: I heard you were punching snakes. I heard you like

626
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: would swing on vines through the treetops. Hell, yeah, Kennedy's

627
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I heard you were friends with a bunch of singing gorillas.

628
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, an in sync song. That's right. They

629
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: would play all you're silve aware, right. I do not

630
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: know if there are gorillas in the Amazon, and I

631
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: didn't take the time to check before I made that joke,

632
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: and I don't think so well anyway, So that's kind

633
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: of nice. She had a really tough time getting to

634
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: this ship, but then on her way up the river

635
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: she was getting some nice petty foes and all these

636
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: little ports. I banked you this cake for your troubles, lady.

637
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Not too bad. So finally, finally, finally, on July twenty second,

638
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: seventeen seventy, the Galliote docked in French Guiana, and Isabelle

639
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: and Sean saw each other again for the first time

640
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: in twenty one year. Oh my god, incredible. He's like, oh,

641
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: your hair turned gray. She's like, you're you know, you're

642
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: fourteen years old. Your hair also, yeah, whatever hair you

643
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: got left is gray now, sir, no wrinkles hair. Very happy,

644
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: clearly to see each other in any state, Oh my god.

645
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: It also took ten months for her to get there,

646
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: by the way, ten months after she had left LaBamba, Labama, Guzman.

647
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: I guess not real. Yeah, And you know, Jean had

648
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: tears in his eyes when he saw her. He embraced her.

649
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: He called her, quote my cherished wife. UM rejected. Princesses

650
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: dot com is a great website where I love it,

651
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: and it's where I got a lot most of this story.

652
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: They had the best sources, um. And they say that

653
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: not much of Isabel's writing survives today, but quite a

654
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of Jean's does, probably because all them letters he was,

655
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: and he apparently was always going on and on and

656
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: on about how smart and beautiful and kind Isabel was

657
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: and how much he admired her and loved her and stuff.

658
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: So he was just a real wife guy. And even

659
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: though he had plenty of opportunities to give up on her,

660
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he even heard that she might already be dead, right,

661
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: he never gave up. And so he clearly was pretty

662
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: obsessed with her, and obviously she with him because she

663
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: went she could have turned around anytime, and like, okay,

664
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: forget that frenchman, hang out back at home where I'm safe.

665
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: So these guys were like soulmates. Nothing not a jungle,

666
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: not a butot fly, not the Portuguese government. Nobody was

667
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: going to keep them apart. Right now. One piece of

668
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Isabel's writing does still exist, and it was a strongly

669
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: worded letter that she sent to the people who had

670
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: arrested her faithful servant Joaquin oh good, yes, very faithful,

671
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: because she said she would give her him this freedom

672
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: right and also like he couldn't really not, but he

673
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: was still languishing in jail. And as soon as Isabel

674
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: caught wind of this, she wrote to them demanding that

675
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: they exonerate him and immediately free him not just from jail,

676
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: but from slavery, as she had promised him so many

677
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: months ago. Yeah right, She's like, do you know who

678
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: I am. I will personally walk through the jungle over there,

679
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: bring my new butt fly friends with me, and they're

680
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna lay some maggots in your belt. Okay, I survived

681
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: butt flies, smallpox, snakes. I can survive you. I will

682
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: punch you in the face. Well it worked. They got

683
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: that letter. They were shaken in their boots. They were like,

684
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: we do not want this lady to show up, and

685
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: Joachim was released to live his life as a freeman. Yea,

686
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to get a wrap up to his story.

687
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: She cut him a check too. I know, I feel

688
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: like he deserves. I mean, he went through it too, surely. Yeah,

689
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: yeah's just the jail. He also to go through the jungle.

690
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, for real, he probably had some butt flies himself,

691
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: and you know you don't. It's just like, okay, you're

692
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: free now, Okay, there you go go ahead walk into

693
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: the jungle like you know, I got nothing for you.

694
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm free in this town that arrested, right and things.

695
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of murder. So cool, hopefully, she said, A

696
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: couple of gold necklaces and plot of land somewhere or well.

697
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: Isabel and Jean lived in Cayenne in French Guiana for

698
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: a few years, and then they finally moved back to

699
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: France along with Isabel's father, Don Petro, and he died

700
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: in seventeen eighty. Jean was promoted in the science worlds

701
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: because he had used his twenty years in French Guiana. Wisely,

702
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't just writing letters trying to start a war.

703
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: He was also exploring the area and collected around seven

704
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: thousand species of plants. So when they got to France,

705
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: he gifted his collection to the Museum of Natural History,

706
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: where they still are today. Oh cool, like pressed leaves

707
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: and I guess some like drawings and like descriptions. I

708
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: guess that's cool. Maybe some like vials of like, you know,

709
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: sap or something. I don't know, that's want plants. Well, anyway,

710
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: his collection was really impressive, and of course he also

711
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: had all of the plant life and wildlife and stuff

712
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: that he had studied and cataloged in Riobamba as well.

713
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: He had quite a lot of information and he was

714
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: elected a member of the French Academy of Science in

715
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: seventeen eighty four. He spent most of the rest of

716
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: his life kind of getting his notes together from his

717
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: decades of exploring the Amazon. Geez, it's like something you

718
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: could actually like read and learn from us. This is why,

719
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, just stay organized throughout, because otherwise you're going

720
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: to spend the last third of your life. What do

721
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean when I said this? Oh? My god? Was

722
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: this before, honey? Was this before or after I found

723
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: you on the river? Oh? Here's that letter where I

724
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: called the Portuguese king a fat bitch. I'm glad I

725
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: never sent that turned out differently. I guess that's why

726
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: we didn't get into a war. Well. Isabel lived quietly

727
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: among Jean's relatives. They said that she never spoke of

728
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: her harrowing journey, but sometimes she would take a pair

729
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: of sandals and a cotton dress out of an ebony

730
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: box and just sit looking at them in silence. Oh wow, remembering. Wow.

731
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: She buy had some pretty intense pps. She's like, I'm

732
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: not living through this to tell you, but it does

733
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: make me wonder, like, who recorded this trip so that

734
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: we have these details? So somebody must have. She must

735
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: have told someone, or the doctor did, or somebody to

736
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: record all these details. Cut to Joachim in Steven Spielberg's

737
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: office being like, and then I had to leave the

738
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: sand bar this poor Isabel behind. I Actually, that would

739
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: be amazing if if if Joachim was just like Isabel

740
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: was just great. You know, she was a sweet lady.

741
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to work it for. She wasn't a piece

742
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: of shit to be to be owned by um. And

743
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: she gave me my freedom as she promised. So pretty

744
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: cool of her, just like a lad, you know exactly.

745
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: The Laddin came through in the end, and so he's like,

746
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell this story and she's going to

747
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: be punching snakes. She would be freaking scaling mountains all

748
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: by herself. A shirt turns her into this amazing here. No,

749
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: she really I think she really did do all this stuff.

750
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think it was a fake story anything,

751
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: But that would be kind of cool, a joaking well.

752
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: Jean Goden diz Adonnay died in March of seventeen ninety

753
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: two at seventy eight years old, and only six months

754
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: later in September Isabelle passed away. She was sixty four.

755
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow. I mean, you know, surely kind of a

756
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: ripe old age in the late seventeen hundreds. Probably that's true.

757
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: But also, yeah, I gotta imagine that these two were

758
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: so devoted to each other. It was like our whole

759
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: a third of our lives were spent getting back to

760
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: each other. Right, I do wonder because she was definitely

761
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: not well. You know, she wasn't. She never was back

762
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: to full health and wellness or anything after this insane

763
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: sure chrip, Sure, but I think I kind of agree

764
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: with you. I feel like she was just like, well,

765
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: I already decided life was not worth living without you,

766
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I would go through anything

767
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: to be with you, And now you're not here. So

768
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: the next adventure for us to go on together is death. Maybe.

769
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: I also really like there's some some math in here

770
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: that they spent twenty one years apart and then they

771
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: lived twenty two years together, and they were like, we

772
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: got one more year together than we did apart. That's

773
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: that's good. Does that include the six years before he left? No, No,

774
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying once they got back, they met up

775
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy and then died in seventeen ninety two.

776
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, I'm glad they got more time together

777
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: than apart. Yeah, because that was definitely I was sitting

778
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: there typing this out, like, hmm, I spent twenty one

779
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: years to get ten years or whatever. But no, that's good.

780
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad they got a little more time, better years too,

781
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: because you know your thirties, Yeah, your forties through sixties,

782
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: those are the those are the golden years with your spouse, right,

783
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: I hope. So it's coming. It's coming. These past few

784
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: years have not been golden. Guess what I'm supposed to

785
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: take from that? Geez whatever, traveling around the world make

786
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: an art together? I don't. Would you travel through the

787
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: junk the Amazon rainforest to find Oh I was going

788
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: to ask that about you. Um, I'll start okay, honestly, okay,

789
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: I would do everything in my power to try and

790
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: get a helicopter or a hot air balloon or any

791
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: number of options. I would even take a boat down

792
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: the river, um, a canoe, um, look walking walking on foot.

793
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: I okay, here's the thing I established early in our

794
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: getting to know each other that there's a couple of

795
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: biomes that I don't particularly care to experiences, and I'm

796
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: a I'm a traveler. I love new experiences, but there's

797
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: so much in the world, I'm never going to see

798
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: all of it, right, So I put Deep in the

799
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: Rainforest low on my list of goals. Um, okay, because

800
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. My two least favorite things, and

801
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: I say this as someone who lives in Georgia, are

802
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: humidity and bugs. I don't like it. I don't like

803
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: the way I feel right, Um, but of course I would. Yes,

804
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: I would do it. I would to the rainforest for you.

805
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: I know I would. I would never you would never

806
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: hear the end of it? Oh No, I definitely do

807
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: it never. I would never stop. John would never hear

808
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the end. Every time, so argument sprang up between them.

809
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: She'd be like, do you know what I have been

810
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: thr Yeah? You ever had a fly maggots in your stomach? Hu?

811
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I didn't think so you know why? Because you didn't

812
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: walk through the damn joun goles to get to me.

813
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: I walked through. Yeah. I don't know. She's I feel

814
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: like she was better than me for never speeding. She

815
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: is better than me, Like I'm writing six books I'm

816
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: getting on sixty minutes. I want to talk to huh

817
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore. I want a movie made about me, an

818
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: HBO series, Broadway playing. I want to be a mass singer. Right,

819
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: they'd probably actually know what they would do is have

820
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Isabelle hosts some kind of dating show, so she'd be like,

821
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: what would you do for love? You know what I mean? Like,

822
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: you know what, we all know what I've done for love?

823
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: Will you eat a scorpion or whatever? It's like a

824
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: fear factor meets uh, you know, the Bachelor, and then

825
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: later she's like, I thought that I had experienced the

826
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: worst hell a person could go through, and then I

827
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: worked in reality television. Take me back to the ra

828
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: take me back to the bot fly. I wish I

829
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: was in that sand bargain. Amazing. Well, I love this story.

830
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean, this is devotion. No, for real, We've we've

831
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: been building like a catalog. I think of stories. There's

832
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: a category in our show somewhere of people who've like

833
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: really dealt with the wilderness to get to someone they love.

834
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the guy who carved the staircase in

835
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: the mountain I know, right, or we also had those

836
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: Arctic explorers inuits. They are actually together, right, They weren't

837
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: trying to get to one another, right, But they did

838
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: have to deal with some really crazy wilderness, that's for sure.

839
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: It really makes you think about love and devotion in

840
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Speaker 1: a whole new way, you know. I think also because

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Speaker 1: you mentioned to Klitu and a pure Vic, and they

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Speaker 1: were total badasses. Of course they grew up in that environments.

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Speaker 1: They had no trouble with it. But even people like

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Speaker 1: Bell who showed me that we're so resilient and and

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Speaker 1: tough even when we think we're not so. Actually, maybe

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Speaker 1: I would do better checking through the rainforest than I

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Speaker 1: think I would because it's a Bell. I mean, she

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Speaker 1: was a rich lady in the seventeen hundreds. I gotta imagine.

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm not softer than her that I could.

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Speaker 1: I could, I could handle it if I had to. Well.

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Speaker 1: In Gene Wilson Murray's essay, she's kind of asking the

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Speaker 1: question like, how is Isabel able to survive over everybody else?

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Speaker 1: True party? And one of the reasons was she was

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Speaker 1: a little plump, so she had some fat to lose.

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Speaker 1: I guess she had, you know, some stores of fat

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Speaker 1: to keep her alive. I don't know how accurate that is,

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Speaker 1: but she was very faithful. She prayed a lot through

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Speaker 1: her trips, so at least for Jean that that seemed

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Speaker 1: to be a reason. But I think mainly it's because

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Speaker 1: she had a goal, Like she had a very clear

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Speaker 1: reason for being there. So even if, like maybe her

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Speaker 1: brothers had not died, they might have given up on

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Speaker 1: the journey eventually, you know what I mean, because they

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Speaker 1: you know, they had very more I guess, more vague

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Speaker 1: reasons for going. You know what I mean this to

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Speaker 1: the Southern coast, where she's like, that's I have to

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Speaker 1: get to him. I love him. He's a thread that

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Speaker 1: is pulling me inexorably in this direction. And there's something

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Speaker 1: to be said, like the human spirit with a goal

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Speaker 1: like that, you know, you do you do end up

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Speaker 1: adapting to some really crazy situations and and and living

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Speaker 1: through and dealing with insane stuff when there's something like

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Speaker 1: that at the end of the you know, rainbow for you.

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen on this show several times how

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Speaker 1: that there's there's something to that that that dedication and

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Speaker 1: that motivation, like it can get you through a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it might be all there is, right, So

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Speaker 1: if you're so, if you're at the end of the jungle,

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Speaker 1: I've got the motivation. You know, we'll say I've got

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Speaker 1: my own version of that faith that she kept. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been preparing for the for the fat

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Speaker 1: stores for the last couple of years, so maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: it'll be all right. Maybe all right, maybe that's this

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Speaker 1: whole Since twenty twenty, I've just been getting ready for

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Speaker 1: my hike through the rainforest. Maybe I still like to

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Speaker 1: avoid it. You should say that, you should be like,

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Speaker 1: I've actually just been Actually, yeah, I got my high

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Speaker 1: school reunion coming up. I'll just tell everybody, like, actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm preparing for a trek through the rainforest. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm in such bad shape. Help out. I heard about this, lady.

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Speaker 1: This is the way to go. Eli. You having a

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Speaker 1: hard time with the stairs there, Yeah, I don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I'm just getting ready for a hike through the Amazon rainforest.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the what's going to make the

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Speaker 1: difference between victory and defeat. Ten months. Give me a second,

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Speaker 1: say I'll be up in a minute. It gonna take

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Speaker 1: me ten months to get up these stairs. It's like

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Speaker 1: three steps. Ah nah, you haven't hit the gym in

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Speaker 1: a while. Well what a what an awesome story about

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Speaker 1: some beautiful people, right, I'm happy for them, glad they

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Speaker 1: got to be back together. Yeah. Well, thanks again to

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Speaker 1: Simon at shingweti one on Twitter for this suggestion. Awesome

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Speaker 1: story to go through and learn about, and again just

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Speaker 1: makes me think about love and devotion in a whole

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Speaker 1: new way for real. But you know we love and

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Speaker 1: us one foot or three thousand miles. Our email address

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Speaker 1: for spending your time with us and we can't wait

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Speaker 1: to bring another story to you. Yeah, we'll catch you

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