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Speaker 1: Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You'll play.

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Speaker 1: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers. Stop.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Battleground Podcast. I'm Josh along with

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Speaker 3: my co host Eli, and we are joined today by

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Speaker 3: TNA wrestler and one hell of a guy. If he

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Speaker 3: asked me, because I think he's fantastic, Mike Santana. What's

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Speaker 3: up much?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great man? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. Good to see you on this on

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Speaker 3: this Friday afternoon. I know we all want to get

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Speaker 3: to the weekend, so we'll hop right into it here. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I know you had a big high with winning the

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Speaker 3: TNAE Championship and then you know bigger blow by losing

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Speaker 3: it only thirty one days later with Frankie Kazarian. So

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Speaker 3: after such a big taxing year where you mentally and emotionally,

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Speaker 3: and as we had an the launch of TNA on AMC, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Be honest, I dealt with a few emotions. I dealt

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Speaker 1: with a few feelings. Of course, how can I now? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How can I not?

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Speaker 1: Right? But if there's one thing I know about myself

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Speaker 1: is that I thrive into trenches. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And I'm I've always been one to use whatever struggles

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Speaker 1: that I've gone through as gasoline to throw on the fire.

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Speaker 1: So this was just one of those instances where all right,

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Speaker 1: it happened. Now, how could I use this to push

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Speaker 1: me forward and to elevate you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Instead of like before, I was always one to use

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Speaker 1: these moments as an excuse to self sabotage. Now it's

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Speaker 1: a total opposite. Now I use them as an excuse.

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Speaker 1: All right, how can I use this to elevate myself?

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Speaker 1: And That's where I'm at today, And you know, I

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Speaker 1: felt what I needed to feel now is let's push

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Speaker 1: forward and let's get that title right.

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Speaker 3: Back, right back over alongs around your waist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's killer to hear you say that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of getting out of your own mind

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Speaker 2: and that self sabotaging stuff like that. That just that's

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Speaker 2: a higher level of mental health. So that's that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad, glad you're there. On the upcoming UH December

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Speaker 2: eighteenth episode of TNA Impact, we will see Team TNA

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Speaker 2: versus Team n XT in a still cage. You will

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Speaker 2: have those responsible for your loss in a still cage

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Speaker 2: nowhere to go? What can fans expect to see from this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you have several thoughts in your

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Speaker 2: in your brain already.

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Speaker 1: They're all screwed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm being objective, it does seem a

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Speaker 2: little a team versus BT. I mean, the TNA team

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Speaker 2: is stacked. If we're being Yeah, yeah, y'all ain't playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, poor them, exactly right for them, because they're they're

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Speaker 1: locked in there with an animal now. So all the

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Speaker 1: emotions that I told you that I felt after losing

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Speaker 1: so yeah, poor them. But you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I let me let me get through them, let me

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Speaker 1: what's ahead, and that's getting to Frankie and getting that

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Speaker 3: And speaking of that, announced this week that you're gonna

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Speaker 3: get that contractual rematch at TEENA Genesis January seventeenth, So

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Speaker 3: what do you need to do to get that dub

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Speaker 3: over Frankie and also keeping the NXT guys you know,

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Speaker 1: Uh So, listen, I'm gonna if those guys after that

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Speaker 1: cage match, if they still want to bring that fire.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, they ain't gonna like what's what's you.

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Speaker 3: Might have to you might have to pull an Aaron

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Speaker 3: Judge on him, you know.

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Speaker 1: Bro, screw Aeron Judge. I'm spending out too, bads, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to work. But anyways, Frankie, as you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a day one TNA guy. He's uh, he's I

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, I've me beating rock Bottom.

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Speaker 1: I've dealt with the hardest fights I've ever had to

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Speaker 1: and there's only one way to find out, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're super excited for that, you know, another incredible

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Speaker 2: well piece of news pertaining to you, the uh the

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Speaker 2: the release of episode one of Immersed with Mike Santana.

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Speaker 2: The Immersed series is just so great. They've They've showcased

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Speaker 2: Networks YouTube channel along with collaboration with Tena's YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: How did this project come about and what can fans

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Speaker 2: expect to see in these two episodes about you?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Man? You know, this first one just dropped at noon,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect. Honestly, I knew obviously,

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Speaker 1: and but to see guys like Homicide and Amazing Red

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, so to see to see a

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Speaker 1: I think, ultimately, you know, after I watched it, to me,

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Speaker 1: at today. So yeah, I'm excited for the world to

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Speaker 1: continue watching it. And Part two drops next week. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: part one was good. Part two that one was good.

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Speaker 3: So in about a month you got the big TNA

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Speaker 1: One being in front of a bigger audience, more eyes obviously, right,

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Speaker 1: TNA hasn't been on a major network in over ten years.

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Speaker 1: I think the last time was what twenty fourteen maybe, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're going to have a broader audience. Now

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Speaker 1: Everyone is motivated, and I mean myself like the fact

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited. Man, I'm excited for the fans ultimately, right,

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Speaker 1: They're going to have more wrestling, more accessible on a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know it's got to be a feather

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Speaker 2: humbling for you. So let's go back and play a

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Speaker 2: little hypothetical for a second. Let's go back to March

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. You've been granted your release from

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Speaker 2: like is he going to do solo? Is he going

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Speaker 2: it's almost there.

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Speaker 1: I would say, block out the noise and stay the course. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of people who and

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Speaker 1: And that's fair, right, But I knew the work that

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Speaker 1: like I I embraced it all. I embraced all the negativity,

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Speaker 1: It was. It was used as gasoline for the fire.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thankful man. And I wouldn't change anything. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't change anything. I like you said, I I left

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Speaker 1: have a daughter, I have bills, I have responsibilities, right,

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Speaker 1: and it was a very scary decision to make, but

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Speaker 1: I knew. I always say, if your heart tells you something,

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Speaker 1: you better fireollow it. Yeah, you better follow it. Because

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Speaker 1: the last thing that I wanted was to, you know,

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have taken that chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know exactly all right.

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Speaker 3: I want to go down the fun tunnel for a second.

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Speaker 3: The funnel, if you will. This is gonna sound nuts,

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Speaker 3: but here we go. Uh, what is the song that

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Speaker 3: Mike Santana goes to for karaoke?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm for karaoke?

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Speaker 3: Uh, Rooster, We're gonna have to figure out a way

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Speaker 3: to have you do that on the premiere of on

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Speaker 3: A Because I'll be honest with you, I will pay

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Speaker 3: a cable bill to see that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Willow Nightingale and Hers was on Blonde.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I I do.

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Speaker 1: I mind.

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Speaker 2: It just depends on where I'm at and stuff, like

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Speaker 2: if I'm in Vegas having a good time, you know.

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Speaker 2: But like I'll do I want to dance with somebody,

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Speaker 2: Whitney Houston, I'll do it. Do a Journey song, I'll

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Speaker 2: do a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just I gotta be honest. I always go to the

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Speaker 3: vinyls I touch myself. I know it sounds very strange.

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Speaker 3: It gets people going because they don't go at the.

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Speaker 1: End of the day. Karaoke is about having fun when

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Speaker 1: you when you could pick a song that catches people

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Speaker 1: off guard, that's right, that's part of the adventure, bro't

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Well, you know, we we We've got so much

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Speaker 2: going on heading into the twenty twenty sixth calendar year

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Speaker 2: with AMC, the AMC deal, You're rematched against Frankie Kazarian.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just such a great time for you

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Speaker 2: in TNA. Is there anythings you want to say to

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Speaker 2: the fans before we let you go?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Man, First and foremost, I want to say, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking this ride with me, thank you

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Speaker 1: for not giving up on me, and you know the

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Speaker 1: best is yet to come, honestly, and also continue supporting

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Speaker 1: TNA Wrestling. It's been quite the ride for the company

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Speaker 1: as a whole. And the fact that we get to

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Speaker 1: share this huge milestone and this huge moment with the

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Speaker 1: fans is a huge deal. It is something we don't

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Speaker 1: take lightly. So Man, just keep supporting professional wrestling. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful that I get to do what I love

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Speaker 1: to do and give my daughter an amazing life, and

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Speaker 1: that's because of the fans.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, Mike, thanks for joining us. January fifteenth,

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Speaker 3: AMC TNA premieres Thursday Night Impact. January seventeenth, we got

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Speaker 3: TNA Genesis, you versus Frankie Cazerian for the CNA title,

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Speaker 3: And don't forget to check out episode one of Immersed.

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Speaker 3: Mike Santana on the Fight Networks YouTube channel, Mike, thank

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Speaker 3: you for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man, Thank you guys. Man. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys taking the time