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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And in

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Speaker 2: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make because

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Speaker 2: it's what he likes to do, it's what he likes

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Hi, this is Rashan McDonald. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation master Class. This is about you.

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Speaker 1: This show is about you. This show is about people.

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Speaker 1: What does mental health have to do with money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation mathter Class. What's how you feel is how you

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Speaker 1: get up, who you trust and this world. You know,

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Speaker 1: because of the color of our skin, we already are

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Speaker 1: naturally stressed. Because people have a lot of stereotypes about

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Speaker 1: people of color, especially people play all black, and within

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Speaker 1: our community, sometimes we don't how to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: Who do we turn? Well? I'm just creating this an

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Speaker 1: outlet because I will have my celebrities on next month

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Speaker 1: coming up, We're gonna have Kem Whidley on the show,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Stephen Williams uh want a celebrity plastic surgeon. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have George Wallace on the show. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Lavell Crawford on the show, and my man attorney Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Krump will be on the show. I was my Success.

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Speaker 1: Secrets to Success Storyteller series will be in the month

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Speaker 1: able to communicate. But that's the money making conversations masterclass

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Speaker 1: is important. My next guest, you know, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: call her a transformational life coach. She's called a transformation specialist.

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Speaker 1: She supports a professional women by rediscovering who they are

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Speaker 1: after losing themselves in life, love or loss. They provide

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Speaker 1: proactive mental health and wellness solutions to corporations and small businesses.

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Speaker 1: Their service is about you and the mental health and

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Speaker 1: how you feel. I always remember one of my stories

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Speaker 1: I would like to repeat sometimes I live such a life,

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Speaker 1: a stressful life, because my wife always asks, how do

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Speaker 1: you just keep going? How do you get up? You know,

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Speaker 1: because I I just get up and keep moving. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's healthy. All I know is that

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Speaker 1: it's just been that's my model, that's my moto. It

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Speaker 1: may not be good for you, it might not be

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Speaker 1: good for me, but I've learned how to deal with stress,

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Speaker 1: and I'm willing to understand that it exists. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't want to acknowledge that it exists. Well,

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Speaker 1: my next guest is here to help us acknowledge it

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Speaker 1: and also show us ways that we can overcome it.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, d Renee Smith.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, mister Renee?

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Speaker 3: I am great, Rashwan, how are you well?

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Speaker 1: You know if your face may look familiar because you're

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Speaker 1: on TV a lot, but you're on radio this time.

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Speaker 1: Because I remember she said, can I come down to

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Speaker 1: the studio? I say, hey, you just called it? You know,

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Speaker 1: I say, this is not TV. I know you used

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Speaker 1: to do on TV, e Miss Smith, but you know

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Speaker 1: this just radio show. Tell us about you, how you

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Speaker 1: get into this business and realize because we wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Because I hope you listen to the

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Speaker 1: first half of my show the promoter East York who's

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Speaker 1: talking about using this events and creating it an avenue

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Speaker 1: go to movies, people go to concert because they're stress

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Speaker 1: and they're looking for outlets. And so he's providing that

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Speaker 1: tool while you there. Guess what you can seek? You

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Speaker 1: can seek a counselor what are your thoughts on what

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Speaker 1: he's doing in this profound way of using his live

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Speaker 3: I think that's awesome. It makes it It makes it

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Speaker 3: They don't have to go find them, they don't have

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Speaker 3: So I think that's a great concept.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about this, you know, mental health, What

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Speaker 3: that means what are you consuming in your mind right?

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Speaker 3: things that when you think about mental health and mental wellness,

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Speaker 1: Wow? Now with that being said, you know, we have gender,

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Speaker 3: Because I think oftentimes women get lost in titles and roles.

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Speaker 3: so when they lose them felves when it comes to life,

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Speaker 1: You know, really, I hear you very clearly in that

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Speaker 3: Well, it can be very stressful, like being a single parent.

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Speaker 3: people by the choices they make, because you don't know

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Speaker 3: We know that stress comes with within a couple, like

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm speaking to d Renee Smith about just mental health.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm really glad because a lot of

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Speaker 1: I'm sure some of them are who you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: people who want to change their roles but sometimes get

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Speaker 1: or don't want to be subject to You can't do that?

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Speaker 1: What about your kids? Or what about your job? Or

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Speaker 1: what about? Then they don't have any dreams, and so

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Speaker 1: That's powerful statements that you're saying. How can they get out?

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Speaker 1: How can a woman get out of that box that

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing that I like to say is self

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Speaker 3: There is a way to have harmony, not balance, but harmony.

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Speaker 1: Before we return and start speaking, a continue my interview

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I try to keep you I'm just

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, people like to feel valued and appreciate it on

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