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Speaker 1: Sonya Richards Ross, Oh, thank you so much for Sean.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to have this

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Speaker 1: first of all, where are you at right now? We're

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Speaker 1: How can individuals connect with that? So the first thing is,

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Speaker 1: why mommy nation dot com where we have over three

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Speaker 1: but I also would love to invite any mom who

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Speaker 1: So but of course the main place to check us

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Speaker 1: out as mommy Nation dot com. Well talked to good Luck.

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Speaker 1: I would, I would they keep running, but you know

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Speaker 1: you're not running anymore, so keeping them all right? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Someone what a tree to to connect with you and

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Speaker 1: I definitely definitely would love to connect with you in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: This will make sure that happened. Will make sure they happened.

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Speaker 1: Good Luck, We talk so