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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough for.

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Speaker 4: Tonight job the cook crack.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe there are a couple of absolutely self

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Speaker 5: involved bullshit autists. Here are your hosts, John Nick and

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Speaker 5: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: Well, if Justin Gatchee is not your favorite fighter, and

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Speaker 1: he's certainly not on your list of like your least

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Speaker 1: favorite fighters in the UFC, he's probably in your top five.

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Speaker 1: We're back on video today. It's episode two seventeen of

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Speaker 1: the Anak and Florian Podcast, September sixteenth. That's a Monday

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Speaker 1: here in the state. It's twenty nineteen. Ken Flow, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna see you man. I'm hoping the video has a

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Speaker 1: mess with the audio, because I'm a radio guy. Audio

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Speaker 1: always comes first. But you know, the right want to

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Speaker 1: see you. They haven't seen you in a while, unless

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Speaker 1: they're watching jiu jitsu in battle bought in. Many of our,

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Speaker 1: of course, are good morning, sir, dude.

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Speaker 6: Always good to see you, but especially today, your sweatshirt

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Speaker 6: brings it a tear to my eye for two reasons.

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Speaker 1: Number one, that's the sign that.

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Speaker 6: You see in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: That's the street sign. That's the city entering battle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: man entering title town. That is just amazing. I need

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Speaker 1: one of those. And it says established two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: which is really when this crazy run of Boston Championships begun.

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Speaker 1: Little hiccup in the audio there can flow. Not a

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Speaker 1: good sign, by the way, so I know it puts

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Speaker 1: you in a bad mood when the audio goes out early.

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Speaker 1: Not a fucking good sign right now, But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to keep focus on the task at hand. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna recap this Gachee show and obviously some picks coming

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Speaker 1: up on Yia Rodriguez, Jeremy Stevens, Joe Osborne from Odds

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Speaker 1: Shark is going to join us on the show. Ray

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Speaker 1: Long go man here in about eight minutes. Justin Gaichie

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Speaker 1: third consecutive win by first round knockout. Probably the most

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Speaker 1: watchable fighter in MMA. I would think he's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of things going for him. Confidence, cardio, a chin,

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Speaker 1: tremendous power, confidence. I could go on and on, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: but another big win for Justin Gaigie. And he got

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Speaker 1: it done early as many expected he would.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and he got it done supposedly after dealing

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Speaker 6: with an eye infection. You know, when he came out,

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Speaker 6: I could tell I thought something was wrong with his eyes,

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Speaker 6: or you know, I could look like he just wasn't

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Speaker 6: all the way there. It didn't matter. Geechee is an

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Speaker 6: absolute savage. Did exactly what he needed to do. It

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Speaker 6: again against Donald Serni. I thought that, you know, he

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Speaker 6: showed a little bit more lateral movement. He wasn't as

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Speaker 6: aggressive as he typically is, I think, and I thought

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Speaker 6: he needed to do that against Donald Serroni, but the

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Speaker 6: pressure was still there. He was a little bit more

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Speaker 6: cautious in his approach and did a great of getting

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Speaker 6: inside on the pocket, grabbing that collar tige, landing those

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Speaker 6: short shots and rocking Donald Cerroni and taking him out.

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Speaker 6: And referee Jaron villel a little late in my opinion.

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Speaker 6: I know Donald Toni initially was complaining about the stoppage,

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Speaker 6: but it definitely should have been stopped. It might have

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Speaker 6: gone one punch too many, actually, in my opinion. You know,

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Speaker 6: when you get knocked out, when you get rocked, when

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Speaker 6: you get buzzed, time doesn't really equate to what we

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Speaker 6: Donald Croni, he was on all fours, was not moving

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Speaker 1: Just vicious stuff there from Gaigee. Yeah, Gaiseye was notably

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Speaker 1: irritated with the referee at the end of the fight,

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Speaker 1: but obviously that's a tough job, and I think Gaigie

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Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier. This obviously sets Gatechee up for a big fight,

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Speaker 1: but you almost want to just stop down and pause down,

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Speaker 1: even though it's not that much fight footage, and just

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Speaker 1: appreciate justin Gaichee, right, and thank god he eventually found

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Speaker 1: his way into the UFC where he richly deserves to be,

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Speaker 1: the very least this puts Gaichee in prime position right

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Speaker 6: Fight, you know, listen, I do think that Ferguson should

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Speaker 6: think that's a fight that would be massive. I think

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Speaker 6: I think Gaigie obviously wants that fight. If there's one

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Speaker 6: because you know exactly what you're going to get with Kiki.

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Speaker 6: He's going to pressure you, He's going to search for

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Speaker 6: He knows that it's gonna be one of two things

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Speaker 6: getting knocked out. You gotta love that if you're a promoter,

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Speaker 6: and I think Geechee is fighting a little bit smarter.

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Speaker 1: I really do believe that.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a little bit more cautious in approach.

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Speaker 6: He's not just blindly coming forward. And I think that's

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Speaker 6: a fight that would absolutely deliver.

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Speaker 1: You bring up a good point like, what is Justin

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Speaker 1: Gaichee worth? Right, Like, if I'm negotiating a television contract

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is bulletproof right in terms of matchmaking,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter who he fights. He acknowledged that

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Speaker 1: a fight between him and Tony Ferguson would be just

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Speaker 1: So the Geechee Connor fight makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: that is going to be criticized. You know, Gregor's a

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Speaker 1: see how it shakes out from there. God, there's so

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Speaker 1: many different things on this main card and on this

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Speaker 1: fight card that we could talk about. Did you see

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Speaker 1: the fight between the Canadian Tristan Connolly and Michelle Pareeda

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Speaker 1: by chance flight? I did? I did, yes, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I got nine of our stage manager texting

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Speaker 1: You know? And he Misswait obviously if you didn't see

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Speaker 1: the fight, it was a fifteen minute fight of the night.

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Speaker 1: Tristan Connolly on five days notice, representing Vancouver in Vancouver

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Speaker 1: gets the win by unanimous decision. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a close fight. I think I might even have po

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Speaker 1: Connolly in round three, and he certainly deserve was deserving

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Speaker 1: close fight. But just a lot of layers to this right,

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Speaker 1: Patada's style, Kenny doing backflips and nearly landing on top

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Speaker 1: he paid the price for it. Sure, I mean he

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Speaker 1: But your thoughts on that fight while we have your time, Ken.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'll be honest. You know, I didn't love

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Speaker 6: you know, and listen, I get it. Pareta wants to

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Speaker 6: that stuff, and you know, he was kind of highly touted.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that that he's out there to entertain and

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Speaker 6: stuff like that, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: it looked bad. It looked really, really bad, and those

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got to show that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it was due to the weight cut, and I

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Speaker 6: that yourself. No fighter should have to do that. It's

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Speaker 6: in fact, you know, pretty dangerous as well. So again

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Speaker 6: I feel for him in that regard, but I just

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Speaker 1: Was good that it was back and forth.

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Speaker 6: The fact that Connley was able to get the win

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Speaker 1: Whether he's UFC quality or not, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be critical of that, but I'd

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Speaker 6: you know, it was an exciting fight for the fans,

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Speaker 6: though it just for me. I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's fair and I think it

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Speaker 1: is safe to say that Tristan and Connolly accomplish more

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Speaker 1: lot of Canadian fighters have done in a lot more opportunities, right,

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Speaker 1: And certainly the short notice backdrop I think helped him

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, it remains to be seen on him.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, Patata, twenty five years old, already

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Speaker 1: his tenth professional loss, so you can be sure by

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Speaker 1: the way, Ken Flow never had ten professional losses as

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Speaker 1: an MMA fighter. It maybe five or six. A couple

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Speaker 1: Longo just gonna throw these out there quotes about Patata

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast. A lot of big actions for a

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Speaker 1: guy who missed wait was one of the first things

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Speaker 1: DC said, Right, A lot of these, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Podcast, Ray You've been on hold like four minutes today,

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Speaker 7: Exactly, John, And if you're going to chase that belt,

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Speaker 7: He he he, He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, we know that Team Aya Quinta has one

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Speaker 1: foot out the door to Melbourne. The Airbnb is all set. Now.

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Speaker 1: As you've gotten older, Ray, you have started to become

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Speaker 1: a progressively later arrival during fight week. You know, big

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Speaker 1: balloons at the host hotel obviously with logo uh walks in.

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously you'll be at at Airbnb this time.

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Speaker 1: But no, I mean when are you getting to Melbourne?

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Speaker 1: Are you going out early? You're trying to acclimate or

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Speaker 1: is it just going to be in and out for uh.

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Speaker 7: Uh, I mean I'm gonna be there six days. I

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Speaker 7: don't know if it's oh wow, yeah, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: leave Monday, but I think you get there like Wednesday

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Speaker 7: morning and then I'll leave Sunday. Yeah all right, I

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Speaker 7: probably could have left Sunday, baby, but uh, I mean,

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Speaker 7: there's so much stuff going on. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 7: get my schedule down to the last like minute. So

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Speaker 7: I want to, you know, I gotta, you know, make

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Speaker 7: sure Chris is good to the next week, right. I

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Speaker 7: think that was that was the best thing I could do.

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Speaker 7: But uh, you know, I got good seats going there,

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Speaker 7: so to say I might.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good, that's good. You got the lay flat,

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Speaker 1: that's good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I had to, man, I think, you know what I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna say, This is uneconomically my last trip to Australia.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go John number number one

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Speaker 1: and my.

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Speaker 7: Little fat friendably sharing a freaking Teddy Bear on the plane.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Uh, put that divider up between you

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Speaker 1: and Matt Sarah My god. So yeah, that'll be a

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Speaker 1: tough turn for you. That'll be a quick turn for

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Speaker 1: you going to Boston with Widman after the Australia trip

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Speaker 1: with Al. But as they say, I mean you're soldier.

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Speaker 1: You know you got a good front row seat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And the only thing I had to do is,

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Speaker 7: you know, we'll leave it out. Batro Bull has got

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Speaker 7: a fight.

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Speaker 3: With me and camp It and be oh Man.

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Speaker 7: So he's been looking phenomenal, So I'm really I'm very

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Speaker 7: confident in what he's gonna do. But I did tell

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Speaker 7: him I just don't even think I'll be I don't

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Speaker 7: think I could do it, like physically though. So he's

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Speaker 7: got he trained down there, that's where his original camp

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Speaker 7: is from, so he's well taken care of. But I

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Speaker 7: expect him to have a phenomenal fight.

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Speaker 1: And I apologize for the oversight to Matt the steamroll

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Speaker 1: of Frivola, his dad sal the bulldoze of Forravola, going

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Speaker 1: to be in his corner if you can't be their.

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Speaker 7: Problem will be in his corner. But he'll one hundred days.

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Speaker 7: He's a great guy. But that's gonna be a great

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Speaker 7: fight for Maddie.

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Speaker 1: All right, my man, Well, thanks for the time as always,

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Speaker 1: and we hope to see you live and in color

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Speaker 1: back on video one week from today. Buddy, you have

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Speaker 1: a good week, all right?

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Speaker 7: What do you get in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Right around the same time you do. I think Wednesday

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Speaker 1: morning I got to MC the open workouts, so uh,

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Speaker 1: buckle off for that, you know Monday.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I think we're on the same flight.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know. I hope we are. I hope we are.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about all right, Buddy, see you there.

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Speaker 1: the guest line, one of the lead sports analysts for

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Speaker 1: j T f o Z. My good friend Joe Osbourne

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Speaker 1: is with us. Joseph, Good Monday to you. How's it going, buddy, John?

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Speaker 3: I am good. How are you, my man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. So our producer TJ. DeSantis does not

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Speaker 1: like when people call him teg. I gotta know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't plan to call you Joseph off the top today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, am I allowed to call you Joseph here

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Speaker 1: and there? Or is that not the way to go

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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 3: Well, you ken if you want them. My birth name

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Speaker 3: is actually Joel, So a little bit of background on

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Speaker 3: me there. My birth name is Joel kids Sarah comb

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Speaker 3: me Joey when I was a little kid. In that

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Speaker 3: evolved to the more mature version of Joe. But I

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Speaker 3: still get Joseph. So you can call me that and

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Speaker 3: I will respond to that if you would like.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, well, Joe Osborne sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 1: My dad's name is Joel, and I know people called

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Speaker 1: him Joey for a while, but Joe Osborne's a power name.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you need to change that up.

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Speaker 1: So our listeners, Joe certainly know there's a heavy gambling

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Speaker 1: slant on our show, and so we're obviously thrilled to

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Speaker 1: have your insight now hopefully a couple times a month

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Speaker 1: before we get to the UFC stuff. You know, Week

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Speaker 1: two in the NFL is fresh, It's in the books

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Speaker 1: for the most part. We got the Monday Night or tonight.

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Speaker 1: Your big player, so it seemed, was the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: catching thirteen at the Ravens, So congrats on to you

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Speaker 1: for the cash. How has your season gone and how

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Speaker 1: is week two for you thus far?

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Speaker 3: My seeds is going pretty good. Man off to a

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Speaker 3: winning start through two weeks so far. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: take a bit of a different mindset with these games though,

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Speaker 3: and maybe going with the contrarian picked like the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Coldinals who were plus thirteen in Baltimore yesterday, So we're

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Speaker 3: off to a pretty good they're so far. But as

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a week to week league and that

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Speaker 3: can turn pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: So this Monday night football game tonight, for our listeners

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Speaker 1: who are going to ingest this episode fresh as many

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Speaker 1: of them do, sort of a weird situation right with

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Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback no longer ago, we've seen the line

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Speaker 1: go from two and a half to six and a half,

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Speaker 1: the Jets catching six and a half, I'd imagine the

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Speaker 1: sharp side is going to now be the Jets getting

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Speaker 1: six and a half at home. Seems like the world

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Speaker 1: is on Cleveland tonight to at least win in some way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is looking like that, and I kind of

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Speaker 3: want to hop on the Jets too, but they have

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Speaker 3: too many injuries, not just that quarterback, but their best

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Speaker 3: defensive lineman's out and their best linebackers out too. So

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Speaker 3: I'm going with a totals pick for this one, and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go under forty five points. Reason being

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Speaker 3: you talked about that line movement. It went from plus

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Speaker 3: three to plus six and a half or plus seven

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Speaker 3: at some books. To me, that kind of indicates that

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Speaker 3: artsmakers think there's going to be a significant offensive downgrade

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Speaker 3: for the Jets, But the totals budge it was that

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Speaker 3: forty five and a half, not down to forty five.

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Speaker 3: So I just don't know how the Jets are going

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Speaker 3: to score. You know, they're pretty healthy, and week one

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Speaker 3: they only managed sixteen points up two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: three yards in that homeless to the Bills. Meanwhile, the Browns,

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Speaker 3: you know, we saw how they looked in Week one. Man,

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Speaker 3: it was not good. They scored just thirteen points. I

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Speaker 3: think they will be able to bounce back a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think they'll absolutely go off. So I

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Speaker 3: think under forty five is the best bet for this game.

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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns tonight are trying to avoid an oh

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Speaker 1: and two start. And I know you're already looking ahead

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Speaker 1: to Week three. You've got some numbers that are pretty

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Speaker 1: telling on teams against the spread that start a season

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Speaker 1: oh and two. Are you much of a trends guy

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Speaker 1: and what are those numbers telling us going into Week three?

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Speaker 3: I am a trends guy, but you always have to

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Speaker 3: have stats to back up the trends. You never just

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Speaker 3: bet they trend blindly, and you have to figure out

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Speaker 3: if there's logic to them. So you have teams like

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Speaker 3: the Patriots who have that long standing quarterback and coach

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Speaker 3: with Brady and Belichick, So I think some trends there

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Speaker 3: kind of makes sense. But if you're looking at a

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Speaker 3: team like the Browns with a brand new head coach

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield in the second year, when you're going back

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Speaker 3: for trends three, four, five years ago, maybe not.

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Speaker 7: A whole lot of logic.

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Speaker 3: But back to the other part of your question about

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Speaker 3: teams that start zero to two against the spread in

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Speaker 3: the first two weeks of the season. In Week three,

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Speaker 3: over the last three seasons, they are sixteen and five

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Speaker 3: against the spread john seventy six percent cover rate a

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Speaker 3: bit of a bigger sample size. Over the last five seasons,

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Speaker 3: they're hitting at sixty five point seven now. Teams that

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Speaker 3: start zero and two straight up, so a few standout

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Speaker 3: ones there, the Steelers, Jags, Panthers, teams that maybe people

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Speaker 3: expected to be in the mix down the stretch run

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Speaker 3: maybe get into the playoffs. Since two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 3: ninety eight teams have started zero and two, only twelve

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Speaker 3: of them turned it around to make the playoffs, So

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Speaker 3: not good new for those teams, especially Steelers now with

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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger out for the season, so it looks like

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Speaker 3: they're toast.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Joe, I want to talk some UFC. We we

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Speaker 6: have the UFC Mexico City card coming up.

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Speaker 1: Main event.

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Speaker 6: Yahio Rodriguez taken on Jeremy Stevens. What are the odds

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Speaker 6: for that fight in How does something like high altitude

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Speaker 6: affect the odds for something like this? Yeaho Rodriguez obviously

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Speaker 6: training in Mexico. How do you guys, you know, throw

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Speaker 6: that into the equation.

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Speaker 3: Well, odds for this one very close to a pick

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Speaker 3: him with Rodriguez. He's a very slight favorite at some

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Speaker 3: books as of this afternoon, and odds makers they factor

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Speaker 3: everything into these lines. So if Rodriguez he's the guy

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Speaker 3: who's training at altitude, I'm sure they've done some research

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Speaker 3: on Jeremy Stevens to see what his training camp is like.

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Speaker 3: But that's always factored into the odds. And if you

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Speaker 3: are a sharp better, that's something you should be paying

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Speaker 3: attention to as well. Example of that we're just talking about.

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Speaker 3: The people kind of talked about that narrative a little

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Speaker 3: bit with the Chicago Bears yesterday playing in Denver. They

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Speaker 3: slowed down significantly in the second half, specifically the fourth

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Speaker 3: quarter of the announcers pointed at several times they went

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Speaker 3: on to win the game, but they didn't cover the spread,

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Speaker 3: so that is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Joe osborneodshark dot Com with us here on the Anakin

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Speaker 1: Florian podcast. Final thing from me before I get you

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Speaker 1: out of here, just in terms of college football versus

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Speaker 1: the NFL, the college football betting volume is insane. So

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Speaker 1: if I'm getting free picks from handicappers or picks I

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Speaker 1: pay for from handicappers, it's like, well, am I going

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Speaker 1: to have like seventeen eighteen straight wagers potentially on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: How do you navigate the volume of college football relative

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Speaker 1: to sort of the NFL, which seems just more ingestible

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Speaker 1: and thereforbidable for somebody like me.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you haven't edge, guys, go all in for

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Speaker 3: college football. And that's the thing with college compared to

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644
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Speaker 3: whole lot of people I've heard of, and there's information

645
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646
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Speaker 3: So you're gonna get edges when you're betting on the

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649
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Speaker 3: and off that the coach is fighting with the player.

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Speaker 3: So if you have an edge played, I don't think

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Speaker 3: you should necessarily cap yourself at a certain amount of games. Yeah,

652
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Speaker 3: so yeah, that's the way I would play that one.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a good responsor. Do you find that you

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Speaker 3: I don't. My main focus is NFL, so I don't,

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Speaker 3: But I bet a lot of baseball guys. There's some

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Speaker 1: Joe Osborne, don't call him Joseph, don't call him Joel.

681
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Speaker 1: I'm a Boston guy, so I might have to stack

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Speaker 1: home on you, fucking Joey kid if you get on

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Speaker 1: a tear. Joe Obourn Toddshark dot Com. Appreciate the time,

684
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Speaker 1: my man, and we will talk to you in two weeks,

685
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: right before the big one UFC two forty three, uh,

686
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Speaker 1: first weekend in October. Buddy, thanks for the time. We'll

687
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Speaker 1: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. Good luck.

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Speaker 1: All right there, he is Joe Osbourne, Ken Flow a

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Speaker 1: couple of things on the Vancouver Show before we spin

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Speaker 1: this thing forward to Mexico City. What about watching with

692
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Todd Duffy and Jeff Hughes, Kenny, can you tell me

693
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: what's going on? I mean, I'm I'm picturing these gamblers

694
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: sitting home. If you had, like Todd Duffy by knockout

695
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: on a prop bed or something, you know, it feels

696
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: like you're walking to the fucking window to cash the ticket.

697
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, the guys out of the fight.

698
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a fighter, right, and DC on

699
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: the broadcast was like, hey man, I'm not gonna judge

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Speaker 1: how much pain a guy is in or what Todd

701
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: Duffy was dealing with. But if you want to get

702
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: out of the fight, right, that's the way you do it,

703
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: right as you tell the referee and the doctor that

704
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: you can't see in the you have double vision, and

705
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: you move on. I feel bad for Todd and Jeff

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00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: of course, Jeff Hughes on the other side, Talk to me,

707
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: Ken f Love, talk to me, Bud. This was tough

708
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: to watch. Man.

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Speaker 6: First of all, I was excited for Todd Duffy, who

710
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 6: was away from the Octgon for a little while. He

711
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 6: really has kind of had a roller coaster ride in

712
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Speaker 6: his UFC career with injuries and all the things that

713
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 6: he's had to deal with, and seeing him back, it

714
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: was just good to see him in there. He's a

715
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 6: good guy. And then just seemed to kind of dead

716
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Speaker 6: set on basically approaching this fight in the most difficult

717
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Speaker 6: manner possible, just throwing down, just throwing wide, loopy punches,

718
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 6: and he's standing right in front of his opponent. Why

719
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 6: not stand back a little bit, gave the distance. It

720
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: seemed like he was way too emotional, way too excited

721
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 6: out there, and that's kind of the problem when you

722
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Speaker 6: are away from the octagon for that long.

723
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Speaker 1: You know, you're not used to competing.

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Speaker 6: And it's not like he has thirty fights under his

725
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: belt either, right, But at the same time, I felt

726
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 6: like it should have been a smarter approach during the fight. Okay,

727
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 6: let's talk about the actual epoke.

728
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: Now.

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: The ipoke didn't look like it was that bad, and

730
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Speaker 6: it's hard to tell. I can't feel that kind of pressure.

731
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 6: It seemed like it was a thumb, and it's a

732
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Speaker 6: big Thumbi's er everyweight's going at it, of course, but

733
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Speaker 6: it didn't seem like it was a punch with the

734
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Speaker 6: thumb that went into the eye. Then kind of we

735
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 6: could say, hey, listen, he probably was seeing double out there.

736
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Speaker 1: That kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 6: It looks like it kind of just slowly rubbed against

738
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Speaker 6: the eye. He was up against the cage who was

739
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 6: breathing very heavy, and he said the one thing you

740
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Speaker 6: never say to a doctor if you want to continue fighting.

741
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Speaker 1: And he said it right to the referee.

742
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Speaker 6: And I turned to the to the guys that I

743
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 6: was watching it with, and I said, that's not a

744
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 6: good sign. This is going to be stopped. If he

745
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 6: tells this to the doctor, this fight's going to be over.

746
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: And sure enough, first thing that you know, the doctor

747
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 6: was actually giving him it out.

748
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: He didn't.

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Speaker 6: He actually asked the right question where he wouldn't almost

750
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 6: get right question right. He was setting them up for success,

751
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 6: and Duffy just said, I'm seeing double, I can't see

752
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 6: or I'm seeing two people or three people out there,

753
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 6: whatever it was. Doctor immediately said fights over. So, uh,

754
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 6: just tough to watch man, tough to watch it for

755
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 6: a few different reasons.

756
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: So Todd Duffy kept saying, I just need some time.

757
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: And who's to say if more time would have helped

758
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: the situation. But as they properly corrected on the broadcast.

759
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: You don't get five minutes, Ken Floyd, right for an ipoke.

760
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: This isn't a groin strike, right, So there's some referee

761
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: discretion and other things that come into this. So well.

762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: Disappointing nonetheless for Todd Duffy and Jeff Hughes. And I

763
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: know crowd doesn't like it. If they got issues with

764
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: the doctor the referee, It really had nothing to do

765
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: with them. You know, Todd couldn't see and therefore couldn't fight.

766
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: And we'll see if they run that one back. Anything

767
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: else for you. On the main card, Glover to Sherry,

768
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, the body of work just continues to be

769
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: strong for this guy. He emerges by split decision over

770
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: Nikita Krilov. You Rya a hole by split decision over

771
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Carlos Junior. Big win for Rya hall Over shoe

772
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: face there, Misha Serkunov with the Peruvian necktie on, Jimmy Krude,

773
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, these Cirkunov fights don't last very long, Kenny, anything, anything,

774
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: anything to wetch your beak on there on the main

775
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: God kid, dude, Predicting.

776
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 6: A Sirkanov fight is probably one of the more difficult

777
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: things to do out there. It was good to see

778
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: him get a submission win. They're over a very tough

779
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: Jimmy Krute. You know, For me, I think Glover to Scher.

780
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: The fact that this guy is late in his career

781
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: getting a win over a tough and young Russian fighter,

782
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 6: I thought.

783
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Was good to see.

784
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: I I don't know how much longer he should be fighting, though.

785
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 6: I feel like if this was three years ago, four

786
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: years ago, Glover to Shira would have had him out of

787
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 6: there in the first round. He was making some decisions

788
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: and I couldn't tell if it was maybe his body

789
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 6: not moving the way he wanted or or or lack

790
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 6: of technical knowledge.

791
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

792
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 6: He making some poor decisions and more and some poor

793
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 6: positional uh moves there on the ground where I thought

794
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 6: he would have a huge advantage over Cryloff. But either

795
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 6: way he gets the wind. Glover to Share one of

796
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 6: the nicest guys out there. He's been fighting forever, and uh,

797
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 6: just just good to see him get a win over

798
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: a young fighter man. It's impressive.

799
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about the Peruvian necktie?

800
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 6: You know, it's a really devastating technique. You don't see

801
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: it too often. I believe CB Dolloway was the last

802
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 6: guy to hit it inside uh the octagon.

803
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: It's a rare choke.

804
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: You throw the leg over the head and it's almost

805
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 6: like you're pulling upwards across the trachea and the leg

806
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 6: your top leg is pressing down on your on the

807
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: on the back of the head. So if there's one

808
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 6: thing that actually feels like a guillotine, an actual guillotine

809
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 6: that will chop your head off, it's the Peruvian necktie.

810
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 6: If it's hit properly, it's a devastating choke and it

811
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 6: can be quite painful as well.

812
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: You want some trivia on the necktie?

813
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? What do you? What do you got?

814
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: Do you know who it's named after or who coined

815
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 5: the name?

816
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: Now, Ken Flow's got a fucking like citizenship in Peru.

817
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I know I didn't know that. Who who? Who coined this?

818
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: To Ah? There you go, it makes sense. I knew that.

819
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: I just forgot. That's right.

820
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 6: Tony Desosa used to train with BJ Penn. He's a

821
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 6: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt. He has a a jiu

822
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 6: jitsu academy in Peru in Cusco. I believe where where

823
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 6: Machu Pichu is or close by? And uh one of

824
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 6: the true OG's in the sport Man And uh he

825
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 6: had a nasty guillotine And that's right. He was known

826
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 6: for the for the Peruvian necktie. Dude, well done, TJ. DeSantis.

827
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 6: That's kid stuff.

828
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Speaker 1: Hey, TJ, do you have fifteen seconds for me? On

829
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Speaker 1: Duffy Hughes. I was really sort of dumbfounded watching that back.

830
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because it's so fresh in my head

831
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: and I watched it back this morning. But what were

832
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the end of that fu.

833
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 5: I mean, super disappointing.

834
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 9: I think there were positives there for both guys. It's

835
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 9: hard to sit back and try to like forecast and

836
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 9: see really what is happening with that eye and be like, Okay,

837
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 9: that was bad, that wasn't better.

838
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

839
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 9: Rub me and my eye and it's open. I'm not

840
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 9: leaving the house for the rest of the day. It's

841
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 9: going to ruin my day. So I don't know.

842
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 5: But I'm not a.

843
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: Fighter, so right, I just think there was so much

844
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: work that Todd put in to get back to that point.

845
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: But hey, I didn't obviously he didn't want to risk

846
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: anything further with the eye, and hey, you know, I

847
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gone too far down this rabbit hole. But

848
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, we've had a lot of serious eye injuries,

849
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe it's better that Todd did not

850
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: take any more damage on that eye. All right, last

851
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: thing on Tristan Connolly. Right, So there's been a lot

852
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: of guys who've tried to sort of take this torch

853
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: from George Saint here in Canada, and I do think

854
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: there are some up and coming fighters. I think Hakeem

855
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Dwado is a guy Ken Flow that maybe can can

856
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Speaker 1: represent Canada in a in a in a positive UFC light.

857
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying are you saying that, Pierre, come on,

858
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I promise you. I'm not promise you. I'm not okay,

859
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Speaker 1: especially because he con beats at one hundred and fifty

860
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Speaker 1: five pounds and you know, the clock's already working against

861
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: you if you're in that division. But I just I

862
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: liked a lot of what I saw, just in terms

863
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: of the MMA and tangibles and the heart and that

864
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: just the ability to go out, you know, booyed buy

865
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: his home crowd or otherwise. I like the fact that

866
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Speaker 1: he won one hundred thousand dollars in bonus money, because

867
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: that's only going to improve his training moving forward. But

868
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: the point is is, we don't need a champion in

869
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Speaker 1: Canada necessarily, right, but we need people and fighters that

870
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: that Canadian fans are going to gravitate to, you know.

871
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not casting judgment on the Elias Theodores of

872
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: the World, or Chad Lapriez or the Aobamba ca but

873
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of guys who he thought

874
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: maybe could be that guy. And certainly, if you know,

875
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: if I'm buying stock and Hakeem Dowdo versus Tristan Connolly,

876
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm probably sitting here buying the dowoad Do stock, right,

877
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Man. I liked what I saw,

878
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: and you know, Canadian fans and MMA fans, you know,

879
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: had a lot of reasons to get behind the guy,

880
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: and they certainly did well.

881
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 6: I will say this first of all, I mean, that's

882
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 6: a pretty good Rocky story, right, and getting the call

883
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 6: on what five days notice, and going in there, maybe

884
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: not being the most athletic or most technical fighter, going

885
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 6: against this guy who physically looks far superior to him,

886
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: and going in there and getting it done against a

887
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 6: guy who even didn't even make weight.

888
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: So I love that story. It's a true underdog story.

889
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 6: How can you not support a guy like Connolly, you know,

890
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 6: putting it all on the line there in his hometown.

891
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: Getting it done was pretty freaking awesome.

892
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: Man. All right, great show in Vancouver. It's always fun

893
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: being there. I was glad to not be there though,

894
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: when that Peruvian necktie situation played out. The fuck is

895
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: going on down here? Lay out? Look to my right

896
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: and pray there's a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt sitting there.

897
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: All right. So this UFC rip is crazy. I mean,

898
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: it's not as crazy a rip as we had this summer,

899
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: but it feels like there's a live event every single

900
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: week and I can't think the next week off. Maybe

901
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: late in October to that end UFC Fight Night, Rodriguez

902
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: versus Stevens. Let us get to the pronunciation of the week,

903
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: TJ DeSantis? What are we eight to nine on the year?

904
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: We chasing five hundred today? TJ? Is that right? Or

905
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: seven or nine?

906
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 8: Um?

907
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't care.

908
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 5: I think we're eighty nine.

909
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 9: Hey, hey, eight is the most dangerous number in the world. Wait,

910
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 9: never mind, it's seven, it's seven, seven, eight nine.

911
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: Damn it.

912
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 5: Hey, at least I got Tony Desuza. I can fall

913
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 5: back on that.

914
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: Dude, you got that right. TJ couldn't give give a

915
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: rip what his pronunciation of the week record is. You know,

916
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: we're just one of myriad podcasts under this TJ. DeSantis conglomerate.

917
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: We're a flagship show. By the way, you should want

918
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: to know your record.

919
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, where's my incentive? Where's my one hundred

920
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 9: dollars a week like Longo gets on picks, you know.

921
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: All right with Kenny and I'll talk about that offline

922
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: and we'll try to incentivize this thing. If you get

923
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: back to five hundred today, we wipe the SA late

924
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: clean and that would certainly make a lot of sense.

925
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: All right. So this fighter will be competing in the

926
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: featured prelim this weekend on ESPN Plus Mexico City, his

927
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: seventh UFC appearance. He faces fellow bantamweight Carlos Watchin TJ. DeSantis,

928
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: of whom am I speaking Jose?

929
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: He known as.

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00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: Give it give it to me one more time? TJ.

931
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: That one was that pronunciation is certainly not going to

932
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: win the point, we'll give you second chance.

933
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 7: Jose.

934
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 5: Damn it, hang on a see now I'm feeling pressure, Jose.

935
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 5: He know, yes, all right.

936
00:45:54,160 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear hose coll se vertous.

937
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: No, that's a win.

938
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: That's a win.

939
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: That dog you said, Ken it's Kenyons is only on

940
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: the first end.

941
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm not giving it to him. About giving it to

942
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: this guy, I'm out of here. Oh yeah, definitely not

943
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: id it. You got a budding jiu jitsu school made

944
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: rockybjj dot com like kem flows out of it. No,

945
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: that is definitely not a point. I'm gonna pick that

946
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: one apart. Uh yeah, TJ, that is not a hit.

947
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: But we'll still incentivize you for next week. But that

948
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: is eight and ten. I will make a note eight

949
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: and ten on the year for TJ. DeSantis.

950
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 5: At least I got.

951
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: The rest of my life, as should you. All right,

952
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: Today's Man Event Challenge brought to you by my bookie

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Speaker 1: that end, why do you keep picking winners and not

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Speaker 1: betting on them? I go to my bookie. It's fast,

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Speaker 1: After kickoff, after the opening tip, if by the second

968
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971
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Speaker 1: bankroll like Ken Flow, and you're the kind of guy

972
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Speaker 1: who likes to bet a little and win a lot,

973
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Speaker 1: maybe try a parlay. I'm a straight wager guy, I've

974
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975
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Speaker 1: Take a sip of my green tea. I'm told that

985
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: green tea will make me lose weight. Kenny, Is that

986
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? We're back on video. That's what I hear.

987
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: That's what I hear.

988
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 6: It's good for weight loss, gives you some good energy

989
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Speaker 6: without being too much.

990
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all right, little green tea today. So

991
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna like the updated standings here, Ken Flow. So

992
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Team Annik led Team Florian, as we have done all year.

993
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: It was one eleven one oh nine going into UFC

994
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Vancouver ew and I and Parker both went five hundred

995
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: on your picks, but you correctly had Glover to share

996
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: a by decision three points. You also had Justin Gaetchee

997
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: by first round knockout three points. Team Florian wins the

998
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: week six to three, and that means for the first

999
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: time in twenty nineteen, Team Florian is in control of

1000
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: the main event Challenge one fifteen to one fourteen. He backs,

1001
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's I mean, I'm gonna do it again?

1002
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what's gonna happen right now? Dude?

1003
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: So I so, I'm going to go back to the

1004
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: April broadcast and see just how big this deficit was.

1005
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: The fact that you wipe it out mid September with

1006
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: three months to go, I mean, it's absolutely incredible. So

1007
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Ken is a bad back kid. Ian Parker's got some

1008
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: work to do.

1009
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 8: Uh.

1010
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: First up for us three picks today, by the way,

1011
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: for this UFC offering in Mexico City in the flyweight division,

1012
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: the undefeated Ascar Ascarov, making his UFC debut. He will

1013
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: do so. Is a minus one forty seven favorite against

1014
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: the returning Brandon Moreno, who comes back at plus one

1015
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: point twenty seven. Ian Parker, good afternoon, sir.

1016
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 8: First off, I just want to throw something out there. Kearny,

1017
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 8: well done this past weekend. For those of you guys

1018
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 8: don't pay attention to it. Pick Kenny beat me based

1019
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 8: on the method of victories on both the co made

1020
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 8: and made event. Am I correct? John?

1021
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: So you're gonna question the main event challenge format. You

1022
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: already asked to back up your time slot today and

1023
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: the answer to that, no.

1024
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 8: No, I'm not questioning. I just want to make sure

1025
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 8: that I was correct, and I think we have picked

1026
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 8: everything in the same for the most part, minus the

1027
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 8: methods of victory correct.

1028
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Yes, that is accurate. I believe there might have been

1029
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: one pick one fight that he had, but no, for

1030
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: the most part. Uh, that's all it was. He got

1031
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: an extra two points in both of those situations. But

1032
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: you got a point. You know, it is, it is

1033
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, hey, I'm on two, I'm

1034
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: the captain.

1035
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 8: You know that comes down to the method of victories.

1036
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 8: Kenny just uh he got me on that Glover one

1037
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 8: and got me by one round on the gate see fight.

1038
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 8: But it doesn't matter. Kenny's going down this week. I'm

1039
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 8: bouncing the back and.

1040
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm on your team, buddy, I'm on your team. Let's

1041
00:50:54,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: just make in South Florida team Boca ratone team Parkland.

1042
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: All right, So what do you make of Askar Askarov

1043
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: here making the UFC debut, getting the love from Las

1044
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: Vegas here against the uh the old friend Brandon Moreno Ian.

1045
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Which way you go.

1046
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 8: You know what I find this matchup. I always find

1047
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 8: it very interesting when you get these guys to make

1048
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 8: their debut that have the undeceated records and they come

1049
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 8: in against guys like Brandon Moreno, and I don't know

1050
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 8: if Moreno is getting the respect he should deserve him.

1051
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 8: They're basing us off of records in a very unpopular

1052
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 8: flyweight division. And that's the only reason why I see it.

1053
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 8: You know, I don't think there's any shaman Moreno losing

1054
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 8: to guys like Serge Europetis, you know, losing to guys

1055
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 8: who were at once at the top of the division,

1056
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 8: when Moreno was not even expected to have the success

1057
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 8: he did. Everyone seems to forget. Moreno was a huge

1058
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 8: underdog against Louis Smoka and he won that fight and

1059
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 8: finished it. And I think this fight actually kind of

1060
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 8: plays into his favor a little bit. You know, his

1061
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 8: opponent here, who's was he a favorite? Minus one forty seven?

1062
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 8: I checked this morning, Kenn, and so every fight hasn't

1063
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 8: gone past the second round minus one fight, and he's

1064
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 8: won by submission. But Moreno's really fast, He's got good hands.

1065
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 8: He's a good submission guy himself. You know, I don't

1066
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 8: love this. You know, this division general for them is

1067
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 8: really hard to pick. But if you know, Moreno's gonna

1068
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 8: kind of get up and have a home field advantaged

1069
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 8: situation here. I'm gonna go with the underdog to lead

1070
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 8: off these picks, and I'm going Brandon Moreno.

1071
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Moreno. The picks A click for Ian Parker,

1072
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Ken Flow, Askarov ten and zero all finishes Moreno on

1073
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: the other side fifteen and five. Overall. He was part

1074
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: of that flyweight purge in twenty eighteen. He had lost

1075
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: two fights in a row, got a main event if

1076
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: you recall against Sergio Pettis in the UFC, goes back

1077
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: to LFA, wins a belt June seventh. Now he will

1078
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: try to hand Askarov his first pro loss. What do

1079
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: you think about this one?

1080
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 6: At Flyway, Kid, I think Ian is pretty accurate here. Listen,

1081
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 6: Brandon Moreno is one of those guys who if you

1082
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 6: meet you just you're gonna love the kid. Just very genuine,

1083
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 6: hard worker, tough as nails. He wouldn't expect it because

1084
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: the guy is so nice. He looks like he's thirteen

1085
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 6: years old. And I tell you what, you know, this

1086
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 6: guy Askroff. He's got a lot of wins on the ground.

1087
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 6: I think Renod's pretty sharp on the ground as well.

1088
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 6: And it's always hard to tell how good a guy

1089
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 6: is unless he's fought in the UFC a couple of times, right,

1090
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 6: So for Askroff, yes, he's undefeated. Yes he's from Russia,

1091
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 6: and he's probably tough, and uh no doubt about that.

1092
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 6: But I think he's gonna have his hands full against Moreno.

1093
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 6: I think Ian's on here and it's just tough. We

1094
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 6: know what Moreno's about. Yes, he's had some losses in

1095
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 6: the UFC, it's all been against high level guys, Askaroff,

1096
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 6: I think the UFC is gonna be the true proven

1097
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 6: ground here. I'm gonna go with Moreno for the win

1098
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 6: as well.

1099
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: All Right, A couple of picks there on the underdog

1100
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: about plus one thirty Brandon Moreno comain event Women's straweight

1101
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: division Alexa Grosso minus won twenty five, the favorite against

1102
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: the former champ, Carla Esparza, who is plus one oh five.

1103
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: Grosso I checked today, still just twenty six years old.

1104
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: Thought she looked great, by the way against carolinikovo Kyevich.

1105
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: That was in June Aspars also comes off a win

1106
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: here over Viena Jenji Doba that was back in April.

1107
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: We will also need the round and the method of

1108
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: victory here, Ian Parker, your favorite part of the main

1109
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: event challenge? Who do you like in the Koman?

1110
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 8: We should call it to Kenny Smoorrian decision challenge. Ah,

1111
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 8: you know you gave it to me. I had a

1112
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 8: duncan right there.

1113
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: I know I'm wanted the.

1114
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 8: Most shit I've ever talked that I blew to fucking lead.

1115
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 8: Listen to me over here, all right, So this is

1116
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 8: an interesting fight. I think this is kind of the

1117
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 8: perfect test for where Alexa Grosso is in her career.

1118
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 8: The only reason why I say that is because when

1119
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 8: you get to this part of the division, you gotta

1120
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 8: be prepared for everything. And outside of Tatiana Suarez, Carla

1121
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 8: as Barza might be the next well kind of artist

1122
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 8: of a true wrestler in the division who's caught everyone

1123
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 8: there is to fight, you know, and like you said,

1124
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 8: that's Carolina kople Chaves. Alexi Grosso look at her absolute best.

1125
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 8: I think if she keeps this fight standing, which I

1126
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 8: think her takedown defense has definitely improved her Cardio is

1127
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 8: leaps and bounds improved in her striking. She might be

1128
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 8: one of the better actual technical strikers in the division.

1129
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 8: You know, I just think that Carla at this point,

1130
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 8: she's shown better hands, but I don't think it's to

1131
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 8: the point where she's getting to the top five ever. Again,

1132
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 8: I think her wrestling is still too predictable, I think

1133
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 8: at this point in the division, unless she's able to

1134
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 8: use her combinations to get the fight to the ground,

1135
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 8: you know, mix it up to shoot in. I think

1136
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 8: Alexa Grosso, you know, as young as she is, she's

1137
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 8: still pretty seasoned. I'm going to Alexa Grosso by Kenny

1138
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 8: Floorian decision.

1139
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: Grosso by decision, And we do have to tweak the

1140
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: way we score decisions, but not in twenty nineteen. We don't.

1141
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, we'll do just that, fright, Alexa Grosso

1142
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: by decision for Ian Parkers.

1143
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 8: Wait, John, let me ask you a question. If Todd

1144
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 8: Duffy quit due to a non not real ipoke and

1145
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 8: Kenny chooses Todd Duffy, should I get the win for

1146
00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 8: jets Us.

1147
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so glad that you brought that up,

1148
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: because I feel like people are going to be banging

1149
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: on me for being too harsh on Todd Duffy right

1150
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: as a non fighter at least, right, I mean it's

1151
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: Ken Flow's guy. Was was trending towards the knockout anyway.

1152
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: All Right, So Alexa Grosso by decision, Kenny, I like

1153
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: this fight. I think you're going to get the very

1154
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: best versions of both of these fighters. Grosso has obviously

1155
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: much improved as Barza has learned a lot over her

1156
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: UFC career. I think she'll present her best version to date.

1157
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: I like that they're being given the showcase in Mexico City.

1158
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: It's all in front of Alexa Grosso. What do you

1159
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: think does she take care of business here against the

1160
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: former champ?

1161
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 6: And I tell you what, I do like this fight.

1162
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 6: I also think it's an extremely difficult one to pick.

1163
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 6: I think as Sparsa, the way that she matches up

1164
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 6: against Grosso, she could pose a lot of problems against

1165
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 6: Alexa gra Alexa Grosso and I think Grosso has struggled

1166
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 6: a little bit with her takedown defense. I do think

1167
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 6: she's way more confident this time around. I think she's

1168
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 6: a much sharper striker than Carla Isparza. She's gonna have

1169
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 6: to be sharp with her takedown, especially up against the

1170
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 6: cage where she kind of struggled before. But you know,

1171
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 6: I think Suarez is a much much better wrestler, I

1172
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 6: think than as Sparsa. So, you know, as Farsa tends

1173
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 6: to get off to a slow start as well. Now

1174
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 6: that's something you can't do, especially in Mexico City, where

1175
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 6: I think she's gonna slow down. I think Grassow will

1176
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 6: get stronger as the fight goes on. Carla is Sparsa,

1177
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 6: I think will slow down. So as Farsa needs to

1178
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: get off to a strong start, I haven't really seen

1179
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 6: that from her. I like Alexa Grosso by decision as well.

1180
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 6: I know Ian Parker, but I just don't think she

1181
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 6: has the knockout capability of really finishing the fight, you

1182
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 6: know enough, I don't know she has enough power. I

1183
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: think she has the speed for sure, but I don't

1184
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 6: know if she has the power. Aspars is pretty dang tough,

1185
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 6: but I'll go with grosshold by decision.

1186
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: All right. A lot of agreement thus far doesn't always

1187
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: make for great radio, but I like that you guys

1188
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: are being honest. Main event, we will have Ken Flow

1189
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: lead the main event today, high stakes in the UFC

1190
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: featherweight division. Yeah, hear Rodriguez holding as the ever so

1191
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: slight minus one fifteen favorite Jeremy Stevens about minus one

1192
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: oh five for our purposes though, that's big, right, because

1193
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: you're gett an extra point for Jeremy Stevens if you

1194
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: like him. On the other side, Rodriguez Kenny one appearance

1195
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: since May of twenty seventeen certainly made it count one

1196
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in bonus money the last second knockout

1197
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: of the Korean zombie Chan Sung Jung. Stevens, on the

1198
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: other side, has fought five times in that window, but

1199
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: back to back losses for him against Jose Aldo and

1200
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: most recently zabeat Mago med Sharipob Stevens Rodriguez, who wins?

1201
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,959
Speaker 1: Can flow? And how do they get it done? Man?

1202
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 6: This such an interesting fight. I think Jeremy Stevens has

1203
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 6: insane power. I think he's a guy that the Mexican

1204
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 6: fans are gonna absolutely love out there, but he is

1205
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: definitely in enemy territory here with ya Yard Rodriguez, a

1206
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 6: guy who again has been training in Mexico City that

1207
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 6: that stadium is just going to erupt when he gets

1208
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 6: out there. He's extremely exciting hit probably the craziest knockout

1209
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 6: I have ever seen with that elbow against the Korean Zombie.

1210
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 6: The fight will go down as one of the greatest

1211
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 6: ever as well. He has a fearlessness and a confidence

1212
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 6: about him when he goes out to compete that is

1213
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 6: hard to match. His speed is very impressive. He's gonna

1214
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 6: have to use his reach out there. My concern for

1215
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 6: for Yayar Rodriguez is the fact that he does get

1216
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 6: hit and because he does have a tendency of getting

1217
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 6: wild and being fearless, he can get hit with shots obviously.

1218
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: And you know, for.

1219
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens though, he's gonna have to take a gamble.

1220
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens has to go for it straight away and

1221
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 6: try to knock him out in the first twelve minutes.

1222
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 6: The problem is if he doesn't knock him out in

1223
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 6: those first twelve minutes, yeah, you're again because you've been

1224
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 6: training at high altitude. I think is gonna come a

1225
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 6: little bit stronger and finish the fight a little bit stronger.

1226
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: This is a tough one for me. I could definitely

1227
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: see this one.

1228
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 6: Going either way, but I'm gonna go with the slight

1229
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 6: underdog Jeremy Stevens here to get it done by knockout

1230
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 6: or TKO in round two.

1231
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: Wow, Ken flow goes Jeremy Stevens knockouts round two. And

1232
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: these are tough, right, and I always qualify this during

1233
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: the main event challenge. But you guys are picking these

1234
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: pick him fights right before fight week transpires, right, so

1235
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: very close fight on paper, couldn't be any closer, and

1236
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: you're having to pick on Monday morning at eleven o'clock

1237
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: am Pacific. Not idea, but of course you always reserve

1238
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: the right to change your picky and Parker on the

1239
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: other side, thirty first UFC appearance for Jeremy Stevens. He

1240
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: is fifteen and fifteen in the UFC, but there's certainly

1241
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: been more good than bad. Was making a featherweight run

1242
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: there for a time. He and now his backs up

1243
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: against the wall. Your thoughts on Stevens as a slight

1244
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: dog here against Yayi Rodriguez.

1245
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 8: I'm actually extremely surprised Kenny that you went with Stevens

1246
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 8: based on the breakdown, which is your breakdown was pretty

1247
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 8: spot on as usual. Here's what I find with Jeremy

1248
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 8: Stevens right now. He's been fighting a certain way for

1249
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 8: a long time, and he's been taking a lot of

1250
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 8: shots too. His knockout against josh Emmett was super impressive

1251
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 8: back in February of eighteen. But then he loses to

1252
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 8: Aldo VI a TKO and then he loses to the

1253
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 8: beat in the very one side unanimous decision. And you know,

1254
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 8: a lot of people compare the striking, the flashing, the

1255
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 8: Samsabi and Yaya Riguez and based on you know, Jeremy

1256
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 8: Stephens Cardio. Also, we haven't really seen that tested past

1257
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 8: a third round. I don't know a very long time,

1258
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 8: but there are times where you've seen him in that

1259
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 8: third round. If he doesn't land a crazy shot, he's

1260
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 8: usually not winning that third round, you know. In the

1261
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 8: uh but you know, Yaire is not really gonna provide

1262
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 8: a threat with the takedowns. I just don't know if

1263
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 8: Jeremy Stevens is gonna be able to really handle the speed,

1264
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 8: the distance, you know, the reach that yeah, Aaron Regez

1265
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 8: is gonna have in this fight. I think it's gonna

1266
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 8: be a good amount. You know, he's a tall, lean fighter.

1267
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 8: He throws a lot of things. I'm glad you didn't

1268
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 8: pick decision at least that's good. That would have been

1269
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 8: wild because if you would have won that one by decision,

1270
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 8: I would have been, uh even bored by that. I

1271
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 8: was gonna go opposite of whatever you picked anyway, just

1272
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 8: to try to get back and since we both picked

1273
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 8: the same, but I really thought you were gonna go,

1274
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 8: yeah the Roudriguez. I'm gonna go home field advantage. I

1275
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Speaker 8: know Stevens has the experience, he's fought in very high

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Speaker 8: level of competition. I just think the speed factor. I

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Speaker 8: think training and with you know, in New Mexico City,

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Speaker 8: with that, you know, with that elevation, is gonna be

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Speaker 8: really challenging for Stevens. I know he's been there for

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Speaker 8: a little bit, but that doesn't really that doesn't compare

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Speaker 8: to being there full time. And I think Rodriguez, you know,

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Speaker 8: in this location, has to shine. This is his moment,

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Speaker 8: this is his breakout moment. And I'm gonna say that

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Speaker 8: he finishes Jeremy Stevens in round.

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Speaker 1: Two, round you or sub TKO.

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Speaker 8: There will be no submissions from Yeah Rodriguez in this fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah You're Rodriguez. Round two TKO sounds to me Ian though,

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Speaker 1: like a fight, you won't necessarily be betting. Is that fair?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're gonna bet at to have

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Speaker 1: some action, but doesn't sound like you have this huge

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Speaker 1: appetite to go bet. Yeah, you're Rodriguez.

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Speaker 8: It's really hard right now. It's not that I wouldn't

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Speaker 8: mean that way. I gotta, you know, for this type

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Speaker 8: of fight, I gotta see how Jeremy did with the

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Speaker 8: way cut. I gotta see what these guys look like

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Speaker 8: on the sales. You know, it really does matter because

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Speaker 8: this is you know, Kenny really said this. And again

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Speaker 8: it's not just blowing smoke because it's can't flow and

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Speaker 8: everyone loves Kenny and I get it. It's the eyebrows

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Speaker 8: and the hair. You know, it's not that you know,

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Speaker 8: it's the fact that Jeremy Stephens just brings a certain

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 8: level of power in this division. But I think in

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Speaker 8: the outside, like him and Josh Emma, it doesn't really

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01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 8: exist consistently. You know, you don't hear too many tim

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Speaker 8: hit or quitters in the lower weight classes, and Stevens

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Speaker 8: really brings that and he doesn't just throw it Atazra.

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Speaker 8: He's calculated with it. He's been around long enough, and

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Speaker 8: that's really his method, you know, his path advictory unless

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Speaker 8: he surprises everyone. He puts you out of here on

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Speaker 8: his back for a couple of rounds to try and

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Speaker 8: steal some rounds. That could happen too, but that's just

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Speaker 8: not the way Stevens role. So you know, to your point,

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Speaker 8: I can't bet that fight confidently one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: Yet. You'll have to get back to you later in

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Speaker 1: the week for that one, all right, and you can

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01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: catch you in Parker live at annik Florian pod on

1317
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: Instagram doing those live hits with Ken flowing with me

1318
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: every now and again. So maybe we'll get to you

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Speaker 1: on Saturday and in Mexico City. Yeah, let's do one

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Speaker 1: this week.

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 8: Look at Kenny being proactive with it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, all right, all right, he good stuff, buddy. Anything

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Speaker 1: else before we let you fly? Kid?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I actually was gonna wanted to get from you and Kenny,

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 8: your guys thoughts on the whole justin Gagee situation. You know,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys covered that. If you did,

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 8: I don't want anything to be redundant. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we talked about it. I mean, were you

1330
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: did you have something that you wanted to add or

1331
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: piggyback on.

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Speaker 8: I really hope that if the UFC wants to build

1333
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 8: this guy into the megastar, he really can be that

1334
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 8: they do actually give him Connor McGregor, because I think

1335
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 8: that Tony fight really has to happen. I think if

1336
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 8: Tony Ferguson somehow does not get a title fight, that's

1337
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 8: just criminal. At this point, I've been very heavy on

1338
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 8: that situation, and I think that Gaichee versus Connor. Listen,

1339
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 8: we're at a point right now that who are you

1340
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 8: gonna fight? Who's gonna fight Connor? That there's any value

1341
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 8: in bumping Connor up into a title spot. You know, if, like,

1342
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 8: for example, if Connor beats Gaechee, then the story to

1343
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 8: be told whoever Connor could fight the winner of Abib

1344
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 8: and Tony, then it matters. The lack of activity is.

1345
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: Just is poison Ian I said the exact same thing.

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 6: We're on the same frequency today, I think, and besides

1347
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 6: the main event in Mexico.

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01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: But no, I agree.

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01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 6: Listen, when you're trying to sell a fight, you want

1350
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 6: to make sure that the fans are going to get

1351
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 6: their money's worth.

1352
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, what's better than Geechee and Connor McGregor.

1353
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 8: Oh no, And you know what, and I don't think that.

1354
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 8: I think if Connor loses, what does that really change

1355
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 8: for his legacy? At this point, he's coming off a

1356
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 8: loss anyway. I think Connor has done everything he possibly

1357
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 8: could do for the sport. And as he gets knocked

1358
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 8: out by gay Chee, so is almost everyone else. Right,

1359
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 8: if you handle it with class and respect, like Cowboy,

1360
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 8: you could still fight big money fights because of who

1361
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 8: you are. And what you did was this is like

1362
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 8: a WWE move. You're putting a guy over, You're you're

1363
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 8: kind of throwing Gai Che into stardom, now into mainstream.

1364
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 8: You know, a lot of casual MMA fans may not

1365
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 8: know who he is, which is a crime. You know,

1366
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 8: this is a guy that goes in there in a division,

1367
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 8: probably the hardest division in the history of the sport,

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 8: and he's knocking guys out like it's no problem. And

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01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 8: this even and Kenny, I want to hear your opinion this,

1370
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 8: But Kenny, was this not his most impressive win just

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 8: based on how patient he was, how technical a strike

1372
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 8: he was. I mean, he didn't do his usual brawl.

1373
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 8: He looked really.

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: Solid in there.

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 6: Yes, First of all, he didn't take a lot of damage,

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 6: which is unusual for a Geygee fight.

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: Right.

1378
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 6: This has been a trend now where he's winning these

1379
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 6: fights by brutal knockouts and not taking a lot of damage.

1380
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 6: And number two, either way, you set up an amazing

1381
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 6: fight against Habib Namaga Matov should he win the belt

1382
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 6: or with Tony Ferguson right, uh, for the championship at

1383
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five pounds between the winner of

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01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 6: Gatege and Connor.

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I think it's a win win. I

1386
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: think that's the direction the UFC should go to. And uh,

1387
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see what happens. Man.

1388
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 8: The question is will Connor take that fight? Will Connor

1389
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 8: make exactly?

1390
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's it, It's all right there, it's promotionally

1391
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: you you can be sure they will try to make

1392
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: that fight. I mean, how could It's just it aligns perfectly,

1393
01:07:58,600 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: you know.

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01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, sometimes it just feels like and coming from

1395
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 8: a managing background, sometimes they try to protect certain guys

1396
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 8: with certain things. If you look at career paths, I

1397
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 8: mean you go back and look at Connor's career path,

1398
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 8: I don't think until he thought Chad Mendez. He fought

1399
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 8: a really strong wrestler, and Chad Mendez took that fight

1400
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 8: in short notice. If you go back and watch that fight,

1401
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 8: Mendez was dominating him until he gassed out. You know,

1402
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 8: this is a guy engaged you who we haven't even

1403
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 8: seen wrestle, and he can absolutely wrestle. It's just we

1404
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 8: know that he's gonna go in there. He's gonna try

1405
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 8: and take Connor's head off.

1406
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 7: Man.

1407
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 8: I get chills even thinking about it. I really hope

1408
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 8: they do it. I hope it's a comin event to

1409
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 8: habid versus Tony and below.

1410
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 7: The roof off the place.

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01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean we can only pray, all right, buddy. Uh,

1412
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: that'll be it from you for today. Just kidding, buddy,

1413
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: great stuff. As always, you have a kid in the car.

1414
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: Do you have a kid in the car doing those

1415
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: picks today?

1416
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 8: I do? My son Tandemy notes because he was very

1417
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 8: upset that Todd Duffy quit when he was getting tired.

1418
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: Way to punch it on the way out, buddy. We'll

1419
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Have a go on, guys,

1420
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta get on out of here. May

1421
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: Rocky BEJJ must be becketting at some point today. I mean,

1422
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: how do you not hit those gray mats like six

1423
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: out of seven days a week. I'm on my way

1424
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: there right now. I left there about midnight with Ryan Hall.

1425
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: Been training like an animal, I can tell, dude, lean

1426
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: and mean, all right, we will talk to you all

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01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: in a week's time. We'll see who emerges in that

1428
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: killer main event Yayia Rodriguez, Jeremy Stevens. Also get you

1429
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,480
Speaker 1: some picks for the Copenhagen show or is it Copenhagen?

1430
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to get that for you

1431
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: by next week. Jack Ermanson, Jared Cannon ere the main

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Speaker 1: without you. Also, thank you for that. Have a great

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