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Speaker 1: Welcome into an all new episode of her playbook, a

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Speaker 1: podcast highlighting inspiring stories of women in sport and business.

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Speaker 1: My name is Madeline Burke, and I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by Fox Sports NFL leads sideline reporter Aaron Andrews Aeron.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I mean, I want to put

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Speaker 3: you on the hot seat. Are you at the facility?

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing? Who are you guys signing as quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I got all the questions for you. Where's Brian Dabele.

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Speaker 3: Let's get some answers.

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Speaker 1: Obviously roaming around these hallways, giants facility. If the walls

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Speaker 1: could talk right And we'll talk later more about all

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 2: But I want to talk about you and your story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people, all fans, sports fans in general, they

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Speaker 1: see you on Sundays on the sideline, but it takes

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Speaker 1: years to build a success like yours. I understand you

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Speaker 1: grew up a tom boy, but your dad also was

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Speaker 1: in the industry, and I'm the award winning investigative journalist.

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Speaker 1: How much did his vocation inspire your career path choice?

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Speaker 4: Oh a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my dad is one of the best storytellers

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Speaker 3: I've ever been around. He just has a great way

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Speaker 3: of explaining things. And so, you know, my mom was

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Speaker 3: a school teacher during the day, so my dad had

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Speaker 4: Job with the local news at night.

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Speaker 3: And he would talk to me a lot about the

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Speaker 3: Boston Celtics and the Boston Red Sox and the Green

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Speaker 3: cool to like watch games with my dad, and I

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Speaker 3: would walk away thinking that, like Larry Bird and Kevin

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Speaker 3: Barkley and things like that. So my dad had a

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Speaker 3: lot to do with why I'm in the industry, why

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Speaker 3: I love the stories behind the players, the coaches, the

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Speaker 3: front offices, the teams, all of that.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean, fancy you on the lead package on

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Speaker 1: NFL Sundays.

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Speaker 2: But you've covered a lot.

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Speaker 1: You've covered everything from hockey, college football, NFL to Little

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Speaker 1: League World Series in the scripts, national spelling bling Bee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so when you look at some of the earlier days

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Speaker 1: that you covered, how much or how important were those

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Speaker 1: years in building up to where you are right now

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Speaker 1: in your career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I've never felt more like, I've never felt

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Speaker 4: So that was quite an experience. I had fun doing

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I cut my teeth in the NHL, which

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Speaker 3: is why it's really cool that I'm a part of

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Speaker 3: this campaign with astro Zenica in the NHL. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I worked for the local hockey team in Tampa, Florida,

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Speaker 4: They were not very good at the time. They had

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Speaker 3: As I was traveling with the team right out of college,

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Speaker 3: it taught me a lot. It taught me a lot

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Speaker 3: have success, how to study, how to carry myself around

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Speaker 3: a team, around a struggling organization. You know, like when

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Speaker 3: a team is not winning, the mood, the attitude isn't

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Speaker 3: the best. They don't want to hear from the local

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Speaker 4: So it really did. It really paved the way.

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Speaker 3: For me, and it taught me a lot about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, and you talk about too, the importance of storytelling, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that a lot of that goes into the

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Speaker 2: For viewers at home, they might.

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Speaker 1: Look and say, oh, you know, the screen time is

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Speaker 2: But this is a hard job.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe the amount of just preparation and

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Speaker 3: I've never studied harder as hard as I do now.

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Speaker 3: And you know the biggest reason why is well, first

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Speaker 4: I never want to be unprepared.

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Speaker 3: You also never know what the outcome is going to

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Speaker 4: You just you don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But also, as you very well know, there are so

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Speaker 4: So there's news.

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Speaker 3: And information coming at a rapid pace during a football season.

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Speaker 1: And you never know when a player that you cover

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Speaker 2: It's got to be interesting with.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the booth. Now, what has that experience

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Speaker 4: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 3: TV has been a friend of mine off the field

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Speaker 4: So yeah, but it's cool.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, I've had a chance to interview him before,

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Speaker 3: I've had a chance to cover him on the sidelines,

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Speaker 3: my work family is truly my family. They're some of

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Speaker 3: We're very much a group that we love to just

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Speaker 3: I'm the only sister on the crew. But and so

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Speaker 3: it's cool to you know, get to have fun with

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Speaker 3: And it was really really fun, and I'm so proud

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Speaker 3: And I feel like he left on such a high

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Speaker 3: And he cares so much and of course he does, right,

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Speaker 3: That's why he's so good at everything he does. And

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Speaker 4: I love him a lot, and I'm so happy he's

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Speaker 1: And the relationships in this business are obviously so important,

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Speaker 1: in these roles are so imperative. You and CHRISA. Thompson

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Speaker 1: what's that journey been like? Kind of taking your personal

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, we only get fifteen seconds, really well,

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Speaker 3: I do, Christick has a lot more time to speak

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it kind of shows a different side of.

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Speaker 2: Us and a different side of being a broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: For you, I mean, you have many sides of your

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Speaker 1: professional career, including a fashion designer. You started where by

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Speaker 1: Aaron Andrews. I see some of the pieces behind you there.

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Speaker 1: How did you know that it was the right time

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Speaker 4: Thank you for that. I just kind of because I'm

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Speaker 3: I was a wife of a you know, two time

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Speaker 3: I would go to these team shops and just noticed

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's really what started this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: How do you find the time to continue to stay

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Speaker 3: I have a great team. I have a team that

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Speaker 1: And there's a new limited edition product under the Wear

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Speaker 1: close to home. Tell me about your upcoming public health campaign,

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Speaker 1: get body Checked against Cancer.

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Speaker 3: And one more thing, sorry, with that whole thing, we

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