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Speaker 4: Now that right, there was a franchise legend being born.

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Speaker 4: The Jaden Daniels game happened, and we were all witnesses.

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Speaker 3: Nick shook thirty eight to thirty three.

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Speaker 4: Of course, those were the words of Bram Weinstein and

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Speaker 4: and I don't blame any commander's fan. If you have

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Speaker 4: and they were. They were the Lebron meme, Like, I

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Speaker 4: just can't believe what has happened. This woe begone franchise

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Speaker 4: three for two point fifty four, an NFL rookie record

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Speaker 4: They'd love to burn clock because the Bengals, for as

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Speaker 4: For a second straight week, the Bengals didn't punt or

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely insane. So he knows you need points. Early

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Speaker 4: And Nick that the image that's gonna stick with me

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Speaker 4: Forgive me, Nick, but uh, man, this was an awesome moment.

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Speaker 2: He ain't going anywhere, Okay, So you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: welcome to our consciousness. This guy's a Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 4: So I mentioned it earlier. But they have gone two

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Speaker 3: Had a good game, not just a good game.

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Speaker 4: They scored or attempted a field goal. McPherson missed a

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Speaker 2: He had Ackler three for thirty five and Robinson's sixteen

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Speaker 5: Let's listen second goal they brought in an extra offensive

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Speaker 1: The lineman caught the touchdown pass. It was a yard away.

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Speaker 4: Are we sure Peters was alignment at that point? He

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Speaker 3: Nick took football.

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Speaker 2: think three or four of them came on that last possession.

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Speaker 2: So strategically, do you not believe in your defense enough

435
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Speaker 2: to be able to blitz like you'd think a rookie quarterback.

436
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Speaker 2: What's the number one thing you do to a rookie quarterback?

437
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Speaker 2: You speed him up? How do you speed him up?

438
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Speaker 2: You blitz him. I know he's a mobile guy and

439
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna evade guys, but I mean, send the pressure.

440
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Speaker 2: If you're that desperate and yet they didn't. So I

441
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be a little bit of soul searching

442
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: done with this Bengals defense with Loui an Arrumo and

443
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, like, how do we fix this

444
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Speaker 2: if we if we go on to face a team

445
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Speaker 2: that may not even run the ball that well, but

446
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Speaker 2: we got to get after and get after the quarterback.

447
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: We got a manufacturer somehow. So very curious to see

448
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: how they evolve over the course of the season, because

449
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: if this holds for a long time, they're gonna be

450
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Speaker 2: a tough spot.

451
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I highly suspect they did the door

452
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Speaker 4: to the Belichick thing where you're playing a runner like this,

453
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Speaker 4: and you know it's they're focused on trying to not.

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Speaker 3: Let Jayden Daniels out the gate and.

455
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Speaker 4: The rush is a little more cage that. Yeah, that's

456
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Speaker 4: a big focus of it. But Hendrickson, like you said,

457
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Speaker 4: didn't get home all night, and Sam Hubbard's been quiet

458
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Speaker 4: this year, and they're just they're just a little thin.

459
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Speaker 4: They have a lot of money to a handful of guys,

460
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Speaker 4: and I think they they honestly just trusted their guys

461
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Speaker 4: in one on one coverage because other than McLaurin, no

462
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Speaker 4: one scares you. But the Washington scheme got them wide open.

463
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'd love to see the average separation because

464
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Speaker 4: there weren't a ton of tight point one like, there

465
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Speaker 4: wasn't a ton of tight window throws. Those two ons.

466
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Speaker 4: McLaurin sure, on the go balls, those are going to

467
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Speaker 4: be tight. But otherwise those guys were open. Cliff did

468
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Speaker 4: a great job. I mean, Cliff has a history not

469
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Speaker 4: to pour a little water on it, but his Arizona

470
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: teams consistently started so fast. We were talking Kyler MVP

471
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Speaker 4: a couple times, like the numbers were dramatic. Weirdly, it

472
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Speaker 4: was similar at Texas Tech that his teams would start

473
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Speaker 4: super fast and then it fall locked. It was like

474
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Speaker 4: a thing. So this is one thing to think about.

475
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Speaker 4: But he is starting fast, and I like that. They

476
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Speaker 4: had a very different game plan tonight than they have

477
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Speaker 4: the first couple of weeks. The Bengals have lost three straight.

478
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Speaker 4: They have a long road. It's a long season. You

479
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Speaker 4: get one extra game now, we're still getting used to that.

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Speaker 3: That helps.

481
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Speaker 4: You got the Panthers next week, that helps, But you

482
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Speaker 4: know you're gonna start into the vision scheduled. I think

483
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: the Ravens are after that, and you know, just just

484
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Speaker 4: every game is gonna feel so big. And they are

485
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Speaker 4: only the seven teams since nineteen ninety to lose three

486
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Speaker 4: straight to start the season by six or less, so

487
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Speaker 4: they've all been close. I mean, they gave that Patriots

488
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Speaker 4: game away. That was just a dumb game where they

489
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 4: made a bunch of boneheaded mistakes. The Chiefs game they

490
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Speaker 4: should have won, and they didn't. They blew it at

491
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Speaker 4: the end, but they should have won that game. They

492
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Speaker 4: outplayed the Chiefs, and then this one where they just

493
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Speaker 4: couldn't stop a nosebleeds. It's adding up, and we'll close

494
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Speaker 4: here on a night in terms of this game, we

495
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Speaker 4: got a whole other game to talk about, Chuck. In

496
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Speaker 4: terms of this game, on a night where they honored

497
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Speaker 4: Corey Dillon, I couldn't help but think first of all

498
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Speaker 4: of Wes again, one of his absolute favorite players, Corey Dillon,

499
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Speaker 4: one of my favorite Patriots of all time. Corey Dillon

500
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Speaker 4: one of my favorite runners. What a natural, instinctive hard runner.

501
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Speaker 4: You can't measure how hard a runner runs. I swear

502
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Speaker 4: no one ran harder than Corey Dyllon My God, I

503
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Speaker 4: mean just the tenacity that he played with was electric

504
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: and he was a special player and they honored him tonight,

505
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Speaker 4: and I thought that was great considering the way it

506
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Speaker 4: all ended and the way it ended with Cincinnati. It

507
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 4: was a contract dispute and all this stuff, Mike Brown

508
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Speaker 4: not wanting to pay, and it's one of the many

509
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Speaker 4: things that was in Wes's dossier of why he gave

510
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: up being a Bengals fan. And I couldn't help but

511
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Speaker 4: think that in context with what's going on with this team.

512
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Speaker 4: The Jamar Chase thing was weird. I listened to Paul

513
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: Dayner's podcast The Growler. People should check that out. That

514
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 4: week where they didn't get the contract done after the

515
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Speaker 4: week one of the seasons, it felt like a big loss,

516
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Speaker 4: Like Jamar Chase felt like he lost.

517
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Speaker 3: The Bengals felt like they lost.

518
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Speaker 4: There were some weird stuff going on behind the scenes,

519
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: Like it was really disappointing. They thought they were gonna

520
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: get that done. It didn't get done. Their best player

521
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: wasn't happy, They weren't happy. The t Higgins thing is

522
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 4: out there. He comes back in this game, and I'm

523
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Speaker 4: not saying that's the reason why they lost tonight. But

524
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Speaker 4: I am saying, like history is instructive, it wasn't all

525
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: like this, these great dan Quinn vibes like the Washington

526
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 4: has coming into this season. It was like a heaviness

527
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: and the stuff you don't want to be dealing with

528
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Speaker 4: with your best players. Trey Hendrickson asked for a trade,

529
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Speaker 4: you know, in the offseason. It's just like it's a

530
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 4: little too much same old Bengals for me. And it's

531
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Speaker 4: hard not to think about that when you see Corey

532
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Speaker 4: Dillon's name go up and when you start zero to three.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Corey Dillon had an issue with the team

534
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Speaker 2: himself before they finally reversed course and inducted him to

535
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Speaker 2: their Ring of Honor.

536
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Speaker 3: Right, that's what I mean.

537
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was going on for twenty years and

538
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Speaker 4: the only reason he wasn't there was the issues that

539
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Speaker 4: he had with Mike Brown back in.

540
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Speaker 2: The There's a bit of a like a last Dance

541
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Speaker 2: vibe here, but not with like they're going to go

542
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Speaker 2: on to win the title. But just like, you know,

543
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: you have all this money to these stars, you know,

544
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: te Higgins into the franchise tag probably not going to

545
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: be there next year. You know, you got a pay

546
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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. The pressure is mounting. And the beauty of

547
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals before was we had Joe Burrow on a

548
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: rookie contract. We had all these young stars that were

549
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Speaker 2: playing alongside each other and everybody was playing well together.

550
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like that anymore. I know it's early, but

551
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Speaker 2: it just doesn't feel like that right now.

552
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Speaker 4: No time moves on and they're not that young, up

553
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: and coming team anymore. With the whole like life in

554
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: front of him. That's the Washington Commanders and Jayden Daniels. Yeah,

555
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: right now, and look, Dough Burrow's just starting as prime.

556
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase just started as prime. I'm not saying like

557
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 4: windows are closing. It's nothing like that. But this season

558
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 4: that they're in right now, it's heavy, and Zach Taylor

559
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 4: absolutely feels it. We feel it, and there's another team

560
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: that's feeling it that we're gonna talk about after the break.

561
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Speaker 4: Bill's Jags recap and then a little bit of injury

562
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Speaker 4: news coming up in a bit.

563
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Speaker 7: Two receivers to the right along with the tight end

564
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Speaker 7: one to the left and now knocks in motion right

565
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Speaker 7: to left. Here's the stats back to pass pressure coming

566
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Speaker 7: pros has Ty.

567
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Speaker 3: Johnson for a touchdown, a sixteen.

568
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Speaker 7: Yard touchdown reception for Ty Johnson, and.

569
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen has four touchdown pass in the first half.

570
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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

571
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Speaker 4: We are not kidding you, Chris Brown of wg R.

572
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: Josh Allen was on one Monday night four touchdowns in

573
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Speaker 4: the first half of this game, two hundred and forty

574
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: seven yards in the first half of this game. By

575
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: that point, the score was thirty four to three and

576
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 4: the game was over. I mean this is like, Hey,

577
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: if you're a beat writer, you love a game like this,

578
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: you're right in at halftime. You barely have to update

579
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: that thing because the story was told, and that throw

580
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: to me Shuk was typical. Here's Josh Allen fading to

581
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: his left, feathering a beautiful ball over a stumbling, bumbling

582
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: Jaguars linebacker who was that Muma, Chad Muma? And he

583
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 4: hits his like backup tight running back, like his third

584
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: string running back, Ty Johnson, and it's just an absolute

585
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: thing beauty that he makes look so easy.

586
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, throwing it over Chad Mooma. That's wyoming on wyoming crime.

587
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: By the way, I love that. How dare you Josh

588
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: Allen take out one of your fellow cowboys. Yeah, this

589
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: is just another example of an offense that is just

590
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: absolutely blossoming before our eyes. Like it makes me think

591
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: back to the Ken Dorsey era with the Bills and

592
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: where we are now with Joe Brady, and I'm just like,

593
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: how did they stay in that for so long? Because

594
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: it's just so much better. Obviously, like in the first

595
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: couple of weeks it was about the running game, and

596
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: it's still predicated on the run, but you have Josh

597
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: Allen back there and you're not asking him to also

598
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: lead the running game. He can just go be himself.

599
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Speaker 2: There was a period in the first half where he

600
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Speaker 2: was getting out to his right and ripping missiles for touchdowns,

601
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: and I heard the broadcast crew just talk about, like

602
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: where do you not want to let him escape to

603
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: to his right? And that's where the Jaguars were. Let

604
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: him go. He could do whatever he wanted on Monday night.

605
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: It's a thing of beauty. The Bills are absolutely rolling,

606
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: and you're right, this is one of those games where

607
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: like beat writers could just sit back and kick their

608
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: legs up. In the second half, my righte up's done.

609
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: I know what happened here? Let's get mac Jones in

610
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: time for the Jags. Let's get this one's over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. By the end, mac Jones was getting strip sacked

612
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: and I'm just having flashbacks to some ugly Patriots afternoons

613
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: and discussed that evening even a playoff game in Buffalo,

614
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: though mac Jones wasn't really the problem in that particular game.

615
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: That was another game where a team did not punt

616
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: or turn the ball over, but it wasn't both teams

617
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: like in the Washington game.

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Speaker 3: My god, this Bill teams.

619
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Speaker 4: So they did something only one other Bills team had

620
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: ever done, which was score four straight touchdowns to start

621
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Speaker 4: the game in a row. I was surprise only one

622
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: team had ever done that. But it is hard to

623
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Speaker 4: do four straight without even a field goal. And you

624
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: mentioned like he's not killing them with his legs, but

625
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: it's still the most effective play in football. I like

626
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: to bring this up that just by success rate, there

627
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: is nothing higher than a Josh Allen run. And he

628
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: went six for forty four tonight. The success rate, so

629
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Speaker 4: that's defined as it depends which down it is. Obviously

630
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: a first down is a successful play. I think it's

631
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: four yards on first down. It depends on the down

632
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: and distance. He had three third down conversions shook that

633
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: really stick in my mind from the first half. One

634
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: was a designed run. Actually two of them were design runs,

635
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 4: and then one was a scramble. And it's just like,

636
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: no matter what you do, if you cover them up,

637
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: you're screwed. If you spread out and you're in zone

638
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: your man coverage, you're screwed. Then they call Then he

639
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: calls a design run and he just goes up the middle,

640
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: and now he's actually being smart about it.

641
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: He's sliding. And it reminded me.

642
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: Actually these two runners tonight Jade Daniels too. His success

643
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: rate on the runs he had in the game was

644
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: sky high, and it's been sky high throughout the season.

645
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: It's just that little extra something that makes a quarterback

646
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: like Allen who's at the absolute peak of his powers.

647
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Speaker 4: My MVP pick is feeling pretty good. My Super Bowl

648
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: pick's feeling good. It's week three, but you know, I

649
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Speaker 4: still like it. But it's just one of those things

650
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Speaker 4: that you don't know how to stop him.

651
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Speaker 2: Were you the only one who did that? Who picked

652
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Speaker 2: the Bills?

653
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I gotta I think that time I

654
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: should should check.

655
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Speaker 2: Bill's island by yourself.

656
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: Let's go.

657
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's why the NFL has shifted in this

658
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: direction over the last decade. The running ability of quarterbacks

659
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: makes it so hard to prepare for an offense. As

660
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: a defense, it makes it so hard to predict what

661
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: they're going to do. And especially when you have a

662
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: running game that you have to respect that doesn't involve

663
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: the quarterback, as soon as you mix that quarterback into

664
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: the element, it's that much more difficult to stop them.

665
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: The Bills are firing on all cylinders. The funny thing

666
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: is that so much of this offseason we spent talking

667
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: about how are they going to replace Stefan Diggs. They

668
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: lost Gabe Davis, Khalil shook Here, Mac Hollins, Dalton Kin,

669
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Speaker 2: k Tyd Johnson, Keon Kleman has one catch for twenty

670
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: four yards for a touchdown tonight. Otherwise didn't need to

671
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Speaker 2: do anything else. They put up forty seven points on

672
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Speaker 2: the board. It doesn't matter because they can go anywhere

673
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: because they're firing on all cylinders.

674
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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I mentioned the final score

675
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Speaker 3: was forty seven to ten.

676
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Speaker 4: The second half was such an afterthought, Like many people,

677
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: by the fourth quarter. I just have it in a

678
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: small screen in the corner, just loosely paying attention to

679
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: Mitchell Trubisky get into the game. But yeah, you mentioned

680
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: it like coleman is wide receiver five now because he

681
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: didn't at least for this game.

682
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Speaker 3: It's probably a game plan thing.

683
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Speaker 4: But he was behind Valdez Scantling and Matt Collins and

684
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel and Shakir and then they just put him

685
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: in for like one play, and he's talented enough he

686
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: can win those one on one situations, so they find

687
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Speaker 4: a role for him. But you mentioned Shakir seventy two

688
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: yards touchdown. He had more yards after the catch than

689
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: he had yards because that's how many like because he

690
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: had a play where he made a big play that

691
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: he caught behind the line of scrimmage and everything else

692
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: is just he's a great runner with the ball. He

693
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: reminds me a lot of Cole Beasley. Just a perfect

694
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: guy to add to this offense. James Cook drops what

695
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: would have been a forty yard touchdown. Of course they

696
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 4: score later that drive anyways, so Josh Allen got his,

697
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: but James Cook gets eighty seven yards from scrimmage and

698
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: a touchdown. Has been about as consistent in terms of

699
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: his success rate as any running back in the league.

700
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Speaker 4: This offensive line is awesome, and I wasn't just picking

701
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: them just because like whatever. It was, Like Josh Allen

702
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: is at the peak of his powers and he has

703
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: the best offensive line he's ever had, and they've got

704
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: enough around him Like that just seems like a year

705
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: where I don't want to pick the Chiefs. I'm sick

706
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: of picking the Chiefs. I got to pick someone else

707
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: else that it could happen, and they're a long long

708
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: way from making it happen. But it's really positive that

709
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: they can pick it take advantage of bad defenses. And

710
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Speaker 4: I think the Jaguars defense right now is bad. They

711
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: lost Jerry and Jones, who's a rookie cornerback. They are

712
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: now down three of their top corners there, Nickel, Darnell Savage,

713
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: their top cornerback Tyson Campbell.

714
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: So there are reasons for this.

715
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Speaker 4: And the Bills have had a relatively easy schedule in

716
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: terms of the defenses that they've played, but whatever, that's

717
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: what great teams do.

718
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: They beat up on bad defenses.

719
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we went into this game with Washington Cincinnati,

720
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: Washington was the worst defense the NFL last year, and

721
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: look what happened, you know, like it didn't really Yeah,

722
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: I mean they put up a ton of points, but

723
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: at the same time, they still weren't able to win

724
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: that game. So like we can you have to say

725
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: that with a grain of salt, because you still to

726
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: go win that game. It's just it's it's so amazing

727
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: to see them doing this, yes, against some bad defenses earlier, whatever,

728
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: but to do it so early in the season when

729
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: we just had so much worry about where they were

730
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: going to be and like you said, it's all Josh

731
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: Allen and now I just wonder, like can they just

732
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Speaker 2: I want to see them tested. That's what I want

733
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Speaker 2: to see. I want to see them tested. Because these

734
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: games are great and they make the fans happy and

735
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: everything else, but I want to see them test.

736
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Speaker 3: I've got it.

737
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: I've got a game for you next Sunday night. How

738
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Speaker 4: do they do it? NBC? They I mean, look, all

739
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: the primetime games are great, the ESPN. It didn't look

740
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 4: like it was going to be a great game tonight

741
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: Washington Cincinnati. Necessarily that ended up being one of the

742
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: best games of the year.

743
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: So you never know.

744
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: But NBC always just seems to have that stroke of luck.

745
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: And they got Ravens bills next week, which to me

746
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: is perfect. I know the Ravens are one and two.

747
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: They're also like third or fourth in overall DVO way

748
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: like they are better than their record shows, and they

749
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: are the Ravens and that is a great matchup next week.

750
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Speaker 4: Keep an eye on that one note. I had a

751
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: Spencer Brown their right tackle we just got a contract extension.

752
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: Has faced the most amount of dropbacks without giving up

753
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: a pressure all year, so they're getting great protection on

754
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Speaker 4: the right side.

755
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence can't say the same.

756
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Speaker 4: My god, it wasn't all on the offensive line, but

757
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: it was part It's been partly on the offensive line

758
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: all year. They have not been able to run block,

759
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: they have not been able to pass block. And they

760
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: had run three plays by the time they were down

761
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 4: fourteen nothing, so they had a three and out their

762
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: first possession. By the time they get the second possession,

763
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: they're down fourteen nothing, and you could almost see Trevor

764
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: Lawrence panic. He did not play well in this game.

765
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: His stats at halftime ten for twenty one fifty one

766
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: yards in an interception and an overthrow on that interception.

767
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Speaker 2: It was better than last week that he was five

768
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: for fifteen or five for sixteen fifteen yards by halftime.

769
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: They're in a bad spot offensively right now. And this

770
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: started last year. Honestly, watching Trevor week to week, it

771
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: was as if you know, I heard them talking about

772
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: in the broadcast and it kind of made sense where

773
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: he's try to make the perfect play and it was

774
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: just like near misses all year and this year it's

775
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: just getting worse. Like he has a guy open over

776
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: the middle of the field early third quarter and he

777
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: misses him, throwing it low, bounces it off the ground.

778
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: He makes some nice throws. He ripped another one a

779
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: nice pass down the scene, but it's just too inconsistent.

780
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: And this was my fear. I knew they had to

781
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: pay him because they believe he's the guy, and they

782
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: were in a situation where they had to pay him.

783
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: But I just wonder if he's ever gonna take that

784
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: next step, and behind an offensive line like this, it

785
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: really concerns you. Like if you look at some of

786
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: the next gen numbers, he was five for ten against

787
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 2: pressure for twenty nine yards, but he also had twenty

788
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: eight attempts where he wasn't pressured, and he threw a

789
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: pick when he wasn't pressured, So of course that pick

790
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: being Damar Hamlin. Highlight moment, by the way, for a

791
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: guy like Damar who has traveling an incredible road back,

792
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: really cool scene to see on primetime. He gets his

793
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: first career interception in Buffalo. That was really nice. But yeah,

794
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: Trevor Man, bad spot. And I mean they're struggling like

795
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: it's only after It's only week three and you don't

796
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: start looking at coaching jobs and everything else.

797
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: Really at this point, I know you can.

798
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: God, I'm worried about Doug Peterson's job because I just

799
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: don't see any signs. So it's going to get better.

800
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: Oh, no, you can.

801
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: Here's a quote from shod Con, the team owner. Now

802
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: this was as part of a team documentary that they released,

803
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: and it was actually a message to his players in

804
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: the building, and he said, I met. This was like

805
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: him kind of confirming some things he had said recently.

806
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: He said, I met with the reporters and the discussion

807
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: quickly turned to football, and I was quoted saying for us,

808
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: winning is now the expectation. So really, I've been looking

809
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: forward tonight to set the record straight. I was not misquoted,

810
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: and let me just repeat, winning now is the expectation.

811
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: Make no mistake, this is the best team assembled by

812
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars ever, best players, best coaches, but most importantly,

813
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: let's prove it by winning now. And to me, that

814
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 4: sort of quote and the quotes that he said to

815
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: the reporters that like winning the expectation, they have to

816
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: win now, that is a clear message to Doug Peterson

817
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: and it informs something I heard last week. John Shipley,

818
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: who does a great daily podcast on the Jaguars with

819
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: s I, said Doug Peterson was about as down in

820
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: his press conference after their loss last week as he's

821
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: ever seen him. That He's usually very you know, up

822
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: beat and afterwards talking positively, and you know, just he

823
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: just sounded like a little a little defeated, like he

824
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: didn't know what the answers were. And so I was

825
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: thinking about that press conference and then watching a team

826
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: that looked completely defeated tonight, and yeah, it's it's only

827
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: week three, but they're winless, and like he they got

828
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 4: to they gotta have like ten nine or ten wins

829
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: this year or else he's losing his job.

830
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: So just through the math, Yeah, now I'm wondering do

831
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: we get an I'm pissed Angelo situation like we did

832
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: in Philly before he got fired by the Eagles, because like,

833
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: if he doesn't have that much like energy in him

834
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: responding this early in the season, I feel like he's

835
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: not gonna have it at that point in the season

836
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: when it actually gets really dire. Not saying it's going to,

837
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: but as it looks right now, it's certainly trending that way.

838
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: Right in Laurence, you remember Lawrence after last week games

839
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: and like we just suck right now, and yeah, you sucked.

840
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: That interception was typical. It points out my problem with

841
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: that I've had with Lawrence other than like he just

842
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: seems to be missing something in terms of I don't

843
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: know whether it's processing or intangibles of just like not

844
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: always putting together making the right decisions at the right

845
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: moments that it's just like a little uneven. But the

846
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: main thing I've had the problem with because I used

847
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: to do it charting QB index, is just he misses

848
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: way more throws than top tier quarterbacks then you would

849
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: expect for him. He just he'll just miss like three

850
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: or four game and he makes so many great throws

851
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: that you don't get it, and like that interception was

852
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: one of them. Like he just missed his throws. His

853
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: completion percentage over expected coming into this game was third

854
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 4: or fourth worse than the entire NFL and probably only

855
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: getting worse after this.

856
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's my biggest concern. When they paid him,

857
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: I was like, are you sure, because that's what showed

858
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: up last year as well, the occasional misses, the inconsistency,

859
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: and it seems like it's just getting it's exacerbated through

860
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: three weeks this year. That's just not a good that's

861
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: supposed to be the guy's scary your offense, and it's

862
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: just not happening right now. I feel bad for guys

863
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: like Brian Thomas who he could be leaned on, you know,

864
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: like a Milik Neighbors is with Daniel Jones in New York,

865
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: but they can't even get the ball there because they're

866
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 2: just so dysfunctional offensively right now.

867
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a sequence where they had the ball

868
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: in the seven yard line, false start, incomplete pass drop,

869
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: false start sack, they ended up on the twenty seven yard.

870
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: Line it's like it's bad football.

871
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: It's rough. The lines are back.

872
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: I mean the pass rush actually has been there one

873
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: saving grace usually, but in this game, like I mentioned,

874
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: the Bill's just dominated up front. Josh heinz Allen one

875
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: pressure on out of twenty six rushes. Their best player,

876
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: Trevon Walker, the number one overall pick who's played pretty

877
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 4: well this season, zero pressures. Eric Armstead, the big free

878
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: agent pickup one pressure. And yeah, that's just it's just

879
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: a rough night. Let's end this recap on a positive note.

880
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Deamar Hamlin interception. What an awesome moment.

881
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.

882
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: One receiver to each side, the two tight end.

883
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 7: Look, here's the snap picks the handoff, gonna roll to

884
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 7: his left, has time, throws deep.

885
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: Over the middle, He overshoots.

886
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 7: Thomas intercepted by Tamar Hamlin coming the other way to.

887
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: The forty five.

888
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 7: As he races to the far sideline and is tackled

889
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 7: at the forty one yard line by Ferrell, hits an

890
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 7: I int and another.

891
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: Takeaway for the Buffalo defense. This time Tamar Hamlin is awesome.

892
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: The crowd there case in point right there, like like

893
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: if you look at that footage right there, that's everything

894
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: you need to know. Like Thomas has four yards of

895
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: separation on both sides of him and he just misses

896
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: him over the head by three or four yards too high.

897
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: Great moment for DeMar Hamlin.

898
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: And all you need to know with the reaction from

899
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: the teammates and the crowd, that.

900
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: Sneaky.

901
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 4: Just one of the most electric moments that that stadium

902
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: is going to have all year because when he got

903
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: over to the sideline, just like the teammates and he

904
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: said it after the game.

905
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: With Laura Rutledge.

906
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 4: You did a good job on the interview just saying like, hey,

907
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: seeing them, they were even more excited for me than

908
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: I was for myself. And she asked him sort of,

909
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: just how do you process this because he's having a

910
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: good season, he's starting, they're playing really good defense, Like

911
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: his coverage numbers for what you want to put into

912
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: that from PFF are outstanding, and more importantly, they're just

913
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 4: not giving up big plays and that's you know, his

914
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 4: priority number one.

915
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, she asked him.

916
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: Like, how do you process like a night like this,

917
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 4: and he gave very honest answers, like everything that's going

918
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: on with me is like, I'm still in the middle

919
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: of processing it, honestly, just like it's a yeah, it's

920
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: a day to day thing, and it's still not that

921
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: far away when he was in Cincinnati, and for him

922
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: to be out there, it's amazing.

923
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

924
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: And you know, they cut to that during the Bengals

925
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: Commanders game and Buck and Aikman mentioned that the last

926
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: time they were in the booth in Cincinnati was the

927
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: game in which you know, everything happened, And I mean,

928
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: that's fitting. I know that obviously that the Bills game

929
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: isn't taking place in Cincinnati, but the fact that game

930
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: was also on like that just tells you we are

931
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: not that far removed from it. And what a story. Man.

932
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: And he's he like you said, he's playing well, he's

933
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: probably just he probably wakes up every day and thinks, like, man,

934
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm lucky to be here and now look I'm starting

935
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL and I'm delivering it said.

936
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 4: He said, I'm just so glad that I'm a Bill,

937
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm a Buffalo Bill, that this is the perfect place

938
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: for me. I'm so happy to be there right now.

939
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: That was the Bills. That was the Jaguars. Bills moved

940
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: to three and oh, Jaguars at oh and three. I'll

941
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: see it in a few weeks, Jaguars, Let's get some

942
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 4: wins before I see that Jags Bears game. Okay, it's

943
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: not over, please, we can we can respond. Let's take

944
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: a quick break. We're gonna come back with some news

945
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: and our players of the week back on NFL Daily. Hey,

946
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: there's a whole league out there, Nick, not just these

947
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: four teams, and a lot happened on Monday that we.

948
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 3: Found out, So let's uh, let's do some news. Okay.

949
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 4: So there was a lot of injury news today, but

950
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 4: there were like huge, huge head lines for the most part.

951
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: To me, the thing that struck me the most was

952
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: that Sam Darnold's fine. It's crazy that we're at this

953
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: point and the season's crazy that I'm at this point

954
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: in the season because I get so annoyed by the

955
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: Donald hive and look at to give it up to him.

956
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: He's just playing good football right now.

957
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 4: That I was really relieved, and I thought the biggest

958
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: story going into the day is how serious is this

959
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 4: Sam Donald injury? And it sounds like he's gonna be fine.

960
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: They had an MRI and he's expected to play this

961
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 4: week and it's just a bruise. So Vikings the one

962
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: of the five undefeated teams along with the Bills.

963
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna be fine.

964
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: Bullet dodged and it's a good one for the Vikings.

965
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: All the vibes are very good in Minneapolis right now,

966
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: and a lot of it has to do with Sam Donald,

967
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: So keeping him on the field fantastic news.

968
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: I will say I did a deep dive. I watched

969
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: Donald closely. He's playing really good. There are some like

970
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: everything's really good around him too. He's really good, Like

971
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 4: under two and a half seconds. I thought Sunday was

972
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: a step forward for him in a major way because

973
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: actually he did better holding the ball on plays in rhythm,

974
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: and that's more what you got to see because those

975
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: numbers haven't been as strong, the numbers against pressure or

976
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: anything like that haven't been as strong. But play, they're

977
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: through the roof, quick decisions are getting guys open, and

978
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: he's avoiding the big mistake, which is absolutely massive. So

979
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 4: I am that is awesome because what a value loss

980
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: that would be if Darnold went away, because it's a

981
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: big drop to their next quarterback.

982
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: Who would be?

983
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: Who would it be? It would be Nick Mullins, Yeah,

984
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: would be said not good. Yeah, Javon Hargrave, Man, this

985
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: came out of nowhere. It's going to miss the rest

986
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: of the season. The forty nine ers defensive tackle there,

987
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 4: they're big signing in free agency a year ago, who

988
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: had a great game on Sunday in a losing effort

989
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: against the Rams. A ton of pressures is out and yeah,

990
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: that's a huge loss for a forty nine Ers defense.

991
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about a little bit more on

992
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 4: our next show with Jordan Rod Reagan and Collien Wolf.

993
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: But that has not been playing.

994
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: Well, hasn't been playing well. And they also got a

995
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: little thinner on the defensive line. They led Javon Kinlaw

996
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: walk in the off season. They replaced them Jordan Elliott

997
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: former Brown and I mean, look, man, you lost two

998
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: in a row. That's just not good news right now.

999
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: No, and they don't rotate as much as they used to,

1000
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: like into torn triceps that knocked him out for the season,

1001
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: and they're really counting on Bosa to dominate. And when

1002
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 4: he has games like he did against the Rams where

1003
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: he was just like good but not amazing, that it

1004
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: shows up more injury news in Los Angeles. This time,

1005
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 4: Joe Alt, the Chargers first round pick at tackle, is

1006
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 4: going to miss some time. That's a surprise because he

1007
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: did finish the game. I didn't even know anything was

1008
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: wrong with him, although he did give up a late

1009
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: sack to TJ. Watt maybe that was part of it.

1010
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: I don't think he could extend, so he's gonna miss

1011
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: some time. They have a bye week coming up, which

1012
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: also could inform how they handle Justin Herbert X rays

1013
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 4: were negative on his ankle, Rashaan Slater and Joey Bosa.

1014
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: Slater with a pectoral injury. Bosa with a hip injury,

1015
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: also could be out. It's uncertain how long. But if

1016
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 4: you were making a list of the Chargers' best players,

1017
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 4: that's a bunch of them. Another person that would be

1018
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: on it would be Derwin James, who is suspended for

1019
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 4: this game against the Chiefs. Like maybe it's like a

1020
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: fantasy football league situation where almost I always was of

1021
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 4: the mind, like it's fine to have all your guys

1022
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: on the same bye week. Just try to win that week.

1023
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: You might win anyways, but just take the l that

1024
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: one week if you have to. That's like the Chargers

1025
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 4: this week, like all their good players are gonna be out.

1026
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: Well, we thought that was the proch of the Rams

1027
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: and they came out and beat the forty nine ers.

1028
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's a good point.

1029
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: It's bad because what the story was last year, and

1030
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: while they went and spent you know, a pick on

1031
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: Joe Alt was because they couldn't keep Justin Herbert protected.

1032
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 2: Now he's dinged up with that ankle, which is really concerning.

1033
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: I know that we're still kind of awaiting what's going

1034
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: to happen with that, but like he's clearly not mobile,

1035
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 2: and then you lose both your tackles, suddenly you're right

1036
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 2: back where you were last year. And it's only week four.

1037
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: So it's definitely a concerning situation for them right now.

1038
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for all the people that complain about the

1039
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: Chiefs getting the breaks, you're not gonna enjoy Sunday's Chargers

1040
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: game with Trey Pipkins blocking for Taylor Heineke and whoever

1041
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: is back there one and a half speed one and

1042
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 4: a half speed. Although frankly, the secondary is the least

1043
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: of my concern. This Chargers defense is playing really well.

1044
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: They're good.

1045
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 4: They're a good group overall, but yeah, that they have

1046
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 4: the bye week. Like I said in week five, it

1047
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: might just be a take your medicine situation all around,

1048
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 4: and then come back.

1049
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: In week six.

1050
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: At two and two, the Ravens were in the news

1051
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: signing Unique and Gacway. This is just like the most

1052
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: Ravens news ever. They just they need a little more

1053
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: juice up front. I thought that the defensive line has

1054
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: played pretty well, but they get a pure pass rusher,

1055
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: can't really stop the run. It's it's just such a

1056
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 4: Ravens signing.

1057
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1058
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: In the division, the Steelers lost Troy Fautanu for the season.

1059
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: It's just something I wish I mentioned on our show

1060
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: Sunday was news that happened. We didn't know about until

1061
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 4: the weekend. But he's on injured reserve. He is not

1062
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: coming back. He suffered the injury at practice. Been a

1063
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: lot of practice injuries. That's brutal for a team that

1064
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: just benched Broderick Jones their first round and now they

1065
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: got to put him back in the lineup.

1066
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: He could be back for the playoffs.

1067
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 4: According to Ian Rapaport, that was the update from Monday.

1068
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: So if they make the playoffs and at three and oh,

1069
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: they have every reason to think they might. He might

1070
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: be back by then, but that's cutting it close.

1071
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Historically Dan Moore has not fared well. That's in

1072
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: one of the tackles that they're gonna have to rely on.

1073
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: So I'm a little concerned about that, But it is

1074
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: a little bit easier to bear when you are three

1075
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: and l Just keep an eye out, Steelers fans. If

1076
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: the protection starts to break down, the offense changes a

1077
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: little bit, that's gonna be your reason why.

1078
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: It's been bad. It's been like really bad. I would

1079
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 4: say their offensive line is bottom man. There's so many

1080
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 4: bad offensive lines. There's no way they're outside of the

1081
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: bottom quarter of the league, which is eight teams. There's

1082
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: no way they are. They're in that group. It might

1083
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: be bottom four or five. Like I know, there's a

1084
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: bunch of bad offensive lines, but they're one of them,

1085
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: and they're not really playing well. They got the run

1086
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 4: game going at the end of last week's game, but

1087
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: they've been overcoming that with defense in good play by

1088
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 4: fields and the skill position players. The Raiders surprise me

1089
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: in twenty a peers. Just I love a coach that

1090
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: is not afraid to just say something, and yet he

1091
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: talked on Monday about possibly changing quarterbacks.

1092
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 6: Well, I just think, you know, you look at how

1093
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: the game went. We're down by two scores or so,

1094
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: they ain't come in and see what he can do

1095
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 6: with the offense, move it, and we're just trying to

1096
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 6: the first part.

1097
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: Did that mean anything going forward?

1098
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Or is it still Gardner still the guy?

1099
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 6: I think we got to give with the players and

1100
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 6: just you know, evaluate everything from yesterday first.

1101
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: Usually when a coach says that it's bad news, and

1102
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 4: yet literally an hour or two later, the athletic UHC Victaffer,

1103
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 4: who's been on this show before, reported it's gonna be

1104
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew, which is just kind of funny to me, don't.

1105
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean I watched this game back today

1106
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: and I was like, I mean, Gardner wasn't like awful,

1107
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: awful like Benji.

1108
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: He was fine.

1109
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was fine. I thought that that was people

1110
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: jumping to conclusions based on the result. I thought he

1111
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: was fine. It would be unnecessary to make that change

1112
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 2: right now.

1113
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: No, it sounded like a coach who was like still

1114
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: mad that his defense got dog wins his decision Like

1115
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew has played better than you could have expected,

1116
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: especially after what we heard in training camp all season.

1117
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 4: I mean, he he has like one play a week.

1118
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: That's just truly mystifying. But he's played better than I

1119
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 4: would expect it. I think he's played better this year

1120
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: than he did on average last year so far. So

1121
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: it will be Minshew's still according to the Athletic. But

1122
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 4: Pierce was also asked about that comment where he said

1123
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 4: he's going to have to make some business decisions about

1124
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: his players too.

1125
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: After the game, you talked about the Raiders having to

1126
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: make business decisions and have you made any of those yet?

1127
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 6: No, we haven't. No, we haven't got to give with

1128
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 6: the players first. Obviously a lot was made of that comment,

1129
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 6: you know, national media wise this morning, I guess you

1130
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 6: if you think about it, are you happy that you

1131
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 6: pointed it out?

1132
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I like it, honestly, it freshly the media.

1133
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: It's like people now is like, are so careful back

1134
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 4: in the you know, back in they wasn't back in

1135
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: my day. It's more like reading some of these books

1136
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 4: behind me, the Paul Zimmern books and the great history

1137
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 4: books here, uh man, they were always trash talking the

1138
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 4: hell out of the other players like in the other

1139
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: teams partly because the news like didn't ever get to

1140
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: them until like weeks later. By carry your Pigeon, it's like,

1141
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: oh yeah, we saw it in the paper like three

1142
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: days later whatever like.

1143
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: But sometimes a big deals.

1144
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: But they were trushed that they were They were honest,

1145
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: they were talking, they were talking their ish when there

1146
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: was this to be talk. So I like Antonio appears

1147
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: a bit of a throwback, just some other very quick

1148
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: injury and it was all throw out there. Marcus Davenport,

1149
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: pass rusher for the lines is out for the season.

1150
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: Man bad luck in terms of injuries for him and

1151
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: elbow injury, and uh, they kind.

1152
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: Of needed him.

1153
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: They're they're not that deep in terms of their pass rushers.

1154
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 4: Derek Barnes, who's a good linebacker for them, is gonna

1155
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: be out a while. Your Brown's got good news on

1156
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett day to day after an MRI. Uh was

1157
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 4: his ankle or his foot? But bad news and why.

1158
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: Hell fat Yeah, that's not to cut you off there,

1159
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: because why I tell her news is more concerning considering

1160
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 2: their offensive line has not played well through three weeks.

1161
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: But Miles Garrett's feet not foot, but feet, and I

1162
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: know your feet are important because he does look a

1163
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: step slow, and I know it was good news. I'm

1164
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: not buying it. I would wait to see the next

1165
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: few weeks because he just he's not quite.

1166
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 4: Wait a second, here, wait a second. He housed Andrew

1167
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 4: Thomas in that game when I that was my that

1168
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: was the first game I watched.

1169
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

1170
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: I was just like, why would you do that to yourself?

1171
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: Well, I like to when I get home Sunday and

1172
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: I sometimes like to bang out a game that I

1173
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: don't think is that gonna be that good? Just as

1174
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 4: like I don't know why because after the blur of Sundays,

1175
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 4: that game that I try to knock out because I

1176
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 4: try to get through all these games eventually, sometimes I

1177
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: like almost have hard time remembering it, and I write

1178
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 4: down all the notes I can remember it, but it's

1179
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: like I usually throw like a mediocre game in that

1180
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: spot because I want to like be fresher and enjoy

1181
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 4: the game's So I was like, let's hear, let's see

1182
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: some Deshaun Watson slop in some surprisingly fun Daniel Jones early.

1183
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: But I thought Miles Garrett played great in that game.

1184
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: He kind of housed Andrew Thomas over and over, which

1185
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: is hard to do.

1186
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: You know, he did, he did, but he's not getting

1187
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: that last half step to get home. He's getting really close.

1188
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: He didn't get in the pressures. He's not getting the sacks.

1189
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: And that's the difference for me, because if you just

1190
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: watch him year over year, he's been much faster than

1191
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 2: he is right now.

1192
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: Fair the strength is there because there was one for

1193
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: Shay where he sort of carried Thomas, who's one of

1194
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: the best players in the league, and he is like

1195
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: three hundred and ten pounds, like on his shoulder a

1196
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: little bit.

1197
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: He got that bend. Yeah, he got a holding.

1198
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: One to one man. He is one holds a freak.

1199
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah.

1200
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: Teler is going to miss a month a starting guard.

1201
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: Their tackles, they thought they were going to get back

1202
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: on Sunday. Will's comes back, he gets hurt. Conklin's still hurt.

1203
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: Is just it's a dissawan. Jones got smoked all Game two,

1204
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: just getting beat with speed. It's not a good situation

1205
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: for them. There's some teams in some rough situations. I

1206
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: don't think there's any anyone worse than the Browns. I

1207
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: guess the Jaguars would be worse because the Browns at

1208
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: least have some hope that the defense is going to

1209
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 4: do something.

1210
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: But I think just globally not good.

1211
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: At Least the Jaguars can convince themselves they have a

1212
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: quarterback long term. Globally, I'm very worried about the Browns.

1213
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: One of the toughest or easiest experiences for me is

1214
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: Mondays when I go to the gym, when I work

1215
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: my split shift on the news in the morning, go

1216
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: to the gym, come back for Monday night football because

1217
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: all the people my gym are Browns fans and they

1218
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: all like to come up to me one by one

1219
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: and talk about the game. Today it was just, oh man,

1220
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: that was really ugly what happened. And I'm like, dude,

1221
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: they're not a good football team. They have a good defense,

1222
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: and that's it. And it's kind of get worse before

1223
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: it gets better. I think that is rough.

1224
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, the last just little item of injury news,

1225
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 4: chidobiu Wuzzy, the quarterback for the Titans, was a big

1226
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: free agent signing.

1227
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: Is a candidate from I Are.

1228
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: Actually, one last thing I did want to mentioned just

1229
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 4: on the forty nine ers was that Kyle Shanahan said

1230
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: that Christian McCaffrey went to Germany to have his achilles

1231
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: to the nightis examined.

1232
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Which that's not good.

1233
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: Feel like it's never good sign. No, never good sign.

1234
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: Lit'tle worrisome Christian McCaffrey. This forty nine ers team, it's.

1235
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: Not really happening for him. All right. That's it for

1236
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: the News.

1237
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: We did the recaps, but we're not saying goodbye until

1238
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: we do the Captain Morgan's Players of the Week. It

1239
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: is time for the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan.

1240
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: I'll let you get us going, Nick.

1241
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's pour an extra strong one here. Instead

1242
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: of two fingers, gonna go three fingers in this one.

1243
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: And it's in honor of the red rifle Andy Dalton.

1244
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: You might call me going chalk here. That's fine. I

1245
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: don't care. The guy sits on the bench except for

1246
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: one game last year. He's on the bench behind Bryce Young. Again,

1247
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: he gets the call and he maximizes his opportunity. We

1248
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: already talked about his performance yesterday, but I do want

1249
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: to bring this out. He's the first Carolina Quarps with

1250
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: three plus passing touchdowns in the first half of a

1251
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: game since Cam Newton in Week fifteen of the twenty

1252
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: fifteen season at the Giants. Do you remember what the

1253
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: Panthers were back then? That's how long it's been since

1254
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: Carolina has had the type of performance from a quarterback

1255
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: that they got from Andy Dalton on Sunday. It was

1256
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: funny to me that we even had to like check

1257
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: this box where Dave Canalis had to answer, like, is

1258
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton still your quarterback today? Yeah? Obviously they're much

1259
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: better with him.

1260
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's that.

1261
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: Twenty fifteen season was one of the best quarterback seasons

1262
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. And Andy Dalton, I just he's making them

1263
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: more watchable. Jade Daniels has put the Commanders up a

1264
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: bunch of notches, but let's be real, Andy Dalton has

1265
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: put the Panthers up at least one notch. Like, I'm

1266
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: not saying they're the first team I want to watch

1267
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: on Sunday, but I want to watch them more than

1268
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: I did with that Bryce Young experiment going on.

1269
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I loved watching it was a really good performance.

1270
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, out there has a chance to watch against what

1271
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: we thought was a pretty good defense. I'm gonna go

1272
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna double do it the captain, you know, why

1273
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: not there can be two captains, two receivers, you know,

1274
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: to two at Well and Juan Jennings. Duan Jennings is

1275
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: like six three two fifteen to two. At Well is

1276
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 4: five to nine lifted as one sixty five. But we

1277
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: learned on one of those Rams documentary type things that

1278
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: he's really like one fifty five, which is crazy.

1279
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: He's in the.

1280
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 4: NFL and Juan Jennings, I have to give him the

1281
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: love of one of the best wide receiver games I've

1282
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: ever seen. If you just go watch his completions on

1283
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: NFL Pro or anything, it's just he mosses a guy

1284
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: for one, he beats him at the line of scrimmage

1285
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: for another deep one, he digs one out that's in

1286
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: the ground for another, he leaps for another contested catch.

1287
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: It was a sideline catch. Like everything that you could

1288
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 4: possibly do. He had some yak, not exactly a burner,

1289
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: you know. Maybe that's why he's not usually the starter,

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Speaker 4: But my god, I don't necessarily think this is a

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Speaker 4: one game wonder. I think he's gonna have a big

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Speaker 4: role on their team. And then two to Atwell, who

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Speaker 4: was the number five Rams receiver coming into this year

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Speaker 4: always viewed as like Sean mcvay's pet project. This guy

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Speaker 4: they took pretty early and he finally became a good

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Speaker 4: role player last year. But this year he's kind of

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Speaker 4: moved down in the pecking order and hasn't played much

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Speaker 4: this year. And then man, he comes out there and

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Speaker 4: he makes some contested, difficult catches, including one on the

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Speaker 4: sideline they ended up ruling wasn't a catch, but he

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Speaker 4: made an incredible effort ends up I think almost one

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Speaker 4: hundred yards in that game. But just the quality and

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Speaker 4: the clutch catches that Tutu Atwell had, he gets my

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Speaker 4: nod along with Juwan Jennings. Just the yin and the yang.

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Speaker 4: I like the NFL. You know, you can have all

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Speaker 4: sorts of different body types. Jaydan Daniels like one of

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Speaker 4: the skinniest quarterbacks I've ever seen. He's out there taking

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Speaker 4: big hits. Tough guy, even slid tonight. What a remarkable development. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he did a better job of avoiding hits. The only

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Speaker 4: times he took hits were kind of when he had to.

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Speaker 4: I'm like third and three is up the middle where

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Speaker 4: he needed to get the first down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your two receivers. Since this is Captain's Corner shot

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Speaker 2: chaser right there, Boom.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Thank you, Nick Shook, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for everyone listening. Again.

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Speaker 4: That was Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan. It's Delistia's

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Speaker 4: and Chris perfect for game day with friends. Spice it up.

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Speaker 4: Visit Captain Morgan dot com to find a Captain near you.

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Speaker 4: Please drink responsibly and yeah, that's my instructions to you.

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Speaker 3: Nick. It's been a long day of work, long.

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Speaker 4: Couple days for you, so go ahead, put one back

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Speaker 4: and we'll be back on NFL Daily. I mentioned on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: It's the Wednesday Crew. You know it, you love it.

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Speaker 4: It's Colleen Wolf, It's Jordan Rodrig Gotta talk about some stuff.

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Speaker 3: We like, stuff we don't like.

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Speaker 4: Preview a compelling T andF game between the Giants and Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I'm into teams with high stakes. Earlier in the year.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys can't take a loss here. We will talk

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Speaker 4: to you then until then. Jayden Daniels, he brought football

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Speaker 4: back