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Speaker 1: Ron Anian.

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Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate I found what I wanted to do early.

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Speaker 2: I just knew I like fixing cars. It was my

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Speaker 2: way of communicating with the rest of the planet, and

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Speaker 2: the car doctor driving that I do it.

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Speaker 3: Drive basically on I seventy eight some Tensania to New Yorker,

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Speaker 3: New Jersey just about every day, so sure, almost exclusively.

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Speaker 2: Highway right, and you're put you're climbing the mountain.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: You climb the mountain on seventy eight, and I know

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Speaker 2: exactly where you're coming in.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your calls

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Speaker 2: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: now he.

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Speaker 1: Running.

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Speaker 2: You know, this show is about those vehicles I think

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Speaker 2: that can't be fixed. Sometimes I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: You know, why do I do this show all these

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Speaker 2: years because you still see, well I still see those

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Speaker 2: vehicles that everybody says can't be fixed. And I think

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Speaker 2: there's a fix for everything. I think there's always a solution,

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Speaker 2: there's always a way out. You just haven't knocked on

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Speaker 2: that door, and yet you haven't. You haven't ventured down

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Speaker 2: that slippery slope to climb back up the other side.

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Speaker 2: We had a twenty eleven Ram pickup truck this week

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Speaker 2: at the shop. It's actually been there for ten days,

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Speaker 2: and the complaint was that the steering felt off, and

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Speaker 2: it was it. You know, there's nothing worse than a

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Speaker 2: vehicle that has poor breaks, bad tires, or a suspension problem.

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Speaker 2: You want to feel safe. You want to feel secure

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Speaker 2: in that vehicle, right, It's just so important. And this

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Speaker 2: truck the owner had since it was since it had

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Speaker 2: eleven miles on it. He bought a brand new and

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Speaker 2: he said it always felt like it feels now. It

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Speaker 2: just always and it did. You know you would. You're

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Speaker 2: always correcting the wheel, you're always fighting the wheel. You know,

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Speaker 2: you want to go straight, and it just kind of

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Speaker 2: wandered left and you'd turn it left, but it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: come back on its own. You'd have to correct it

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Speaker 2: and you'd overcorrect and it tracked poorly. It really wasn't

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Speaker 2: a well tracking vehicle. The truck had one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand miles on it, and I said, how could

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Speaker 2: anybody live with this for one hundred and fifty thousand miles?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy and how could it come out of the

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Speaker 2: factory like that? But I guess it did because we

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Speaker 2: fixed it around ninety five thousand miles. Robbie took it

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Speaker 2: to his local mechanic and they put a set of

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Speaker 2: ball joints in it. They didn't use Chrysler ball joints.

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Speaker 2: And I'm fussy on certain vehicles, On certain vehicles, I

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Speaker 2: want an oe part, I questioned. I especially question if

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Speaker 2: the parts don't match up and look the same. And

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Speaker 2: the ball joints we took out, which were an aftermarket version,

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Speaker 2: didn't match up to the ones that we put in

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Speaker 2: from Chrysler. And I should preface this conversation by saying,

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Speaker 2: this is an eleven RAM twenty five hundred with a

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Speaker 2: Cummings diesel, So this is a heavy truck. This truck

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Speaker 2: weighs more. That diesel engine weighs more than a gas

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Speaker 2: powered version, and everything is just more heavy duty. So

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Speaker 2: we did some diagnosis. We looked it over and we

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Speaker 2: went through our usual due diligence that you always heard

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Speaker 2: me reference, and we came to the conclusion that it

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Speaker 2: needed a left upper ball joint because it was physically

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Speaker 2: worn out. Now, the ball joints were done at ninety

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Speaker 2: five thousand. The original ball joints were taken out and

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Speaker 2: they put in a set of after markets and then

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Speaker 2: about and it's still steered terrible, which is the crazy part, okay.

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Speaker 2: And then about twenty five thousand miles later, they said,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's got to be a bad ball joint.

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Speaker 2: It comes back to a ball joint. It's a ball joint.

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Speaker 2: It's a ball joint. It's a ball joint. And they

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Speaker 2: put another set of after market ball joints in it.

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Speaker 2: And then finally, twenty thousand miles later, it ended up

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Speaker 2: felt coming back to him and saying, it needs ball joints,

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Speaker 2: you know, because so far the first there's three sets

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Speaker 2: just were right. And I kept, you know, you got

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Speaker 2: to have courage of conviction in order to repair. You've

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Speaker 2: got to have confidence in what you're doing, and you've

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Speaker 2: got to go through your tests. And there are tests

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Speaker 2: for ball joints in suspension. There's a test for everything,

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Speaker 2: and I said, Robbie, I said, it needs ball joints.

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Speaker 2: I said, first of all, the left uppers bet all right,

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Speaker 2: it's loose, it's got some wiggle in it. And the

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Speaker 2: right side when we disconnect the tie rod the draglink assembly,

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Speaker 2: you know, you turn it and it just it's just tight,

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Speaker 2: like it shouldn't be that tight. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be that hard to turn. There's something wrong here. You're right, Ron,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, do the ball joints. We did ball joints.

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Speaker 2: We replaced the steering dampner. I'm also very fussy on

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Speaker 2: steering dampner's. We put a Chrysler oh wee replacement in

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Speaker 2: to replace the aftermarket one that had been installed. And

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Speaker 2: you got to be careful in the aftermarket. There's some

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Speaker 2: things that just don't work. And that's why you pay

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Speaker 2: a mechanic for their knowledge and expertise. I always say,

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Speaker 2: mechanic's like a great chef. He's picking out the lettuce

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Speaker 2: and tomatoes. He knows what produce to put in there.

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Speaker 2: You don't get an upset stomach. So we changed the

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Speaker 2: four ball joints. Factory ball joints, factory steering damper. Well,

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Speaker 2: we started to, I should I should preface the conversation

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Speaker 2: by saying we started to. I'm not sure why, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I'll ever understand it. But the

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Speaker 2: mechanic that replaced the last set of ball joints felt

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Speaker 2: like welding, right, welding the lower ball joints into the

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Speaker 2: into the beam. Now, this is a solid, this is

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Speaker 2: a solid. You know, the front four wheel drives. This

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Speaker 2: is a solid front axle. A big data a big

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Speaker 2: data differential. And they welded the lower ball joints in.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't I don't get it because it's

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Speaker 2: not like the ball joint can push out, you know,

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Speaker 2: it would have to, it would have to fail in

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Speaker 2: a multitude of ways because the ball joints move in

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Speaker 2: opposite direction. So it's not like they're going to and

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Speaker 2: then we're going to put a retaining clip in that

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Speaker 2: retaining clip. I'm not sure why we do it, but

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Speaker 2: from the factory they put a retaining clip. I don't

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Speaker 2: see it retaining much of anything. But instead of putting

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Speaker 2: a retaining clip in, they welded the ball joints in.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, was that fun. We had to die grinder out.

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Speaker 2: We were there for days, just grinding away at the well.

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Speaker 2: Just try otherwise you got to put a differential in it.

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Speaker 2: Want of repairs, about courage of conviction. You've got to

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Speaker 2: be sure you're right.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: My dad said that to me. I said, Dad, how

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Speaker 2: do you know when you're right? One of the early

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Speaker 2: Second World War. He was an aviation mechanic at Leguardia

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Speaker 2: Airport in New York City, and he said, you know, Ronnie,

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Speaker 2: I was Ronnie to him, Okay, you've got to be

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Speaker 2: sure you're right and then go ahead, and if you

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Speaker 2: ever have any doubt, stop and regroup and make sure

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Speaker 2: you're right. That's the key in life. I was sure

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Speaker 2: I was right. I said, this has had ball joints

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Speaker 2: or something wrong on the right side and the left

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Speaker 2: upper's bed. I got to put ball joints in it.

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Speaker 2: So we ground out the weld. Now, the only thing

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Speaker 2: I was thinking was were the aftermarket ball joint and

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Speaker 2: somehow made a little bit bigger? Would they have pushed open,

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Speaker 2: you know? And maybe enlarged the hole that the ball

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Speaker 2: joint sat in, and they welded them because they wobbled around,

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Speaker 2: they were loose or something. I'll never know. I will

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Speaker 2: tell you this that and closer examination. There's a groove

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Speaker 2: in that lower ball joint where it's supposed to press

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Speaker 2: through the bottom and then the clip goes around it,

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Speaker 2: and that's the retaining clip. You know, it was off

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Speaker 2: by half a clip. The groove was just a smidge

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Speaker 2: too low and you couldn't get a clip on it,

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Speaker 2: and that's probably why they welded it. But what I

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Speaker 2: don't get is why wouldn't you sit there and say

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Speaker 2: how come this fits wrong and still use the part?

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Speaker 2: And I haven't done it yet, but I have to

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Speaker 2: go back and look to see from this aftermarket brand

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Speaker 2: if if there's a different ball joint for a gas

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Speaker 2: version versus a diesel version. And I wonder if that

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Speaker 2: was the difference in fact because of the weight difference,

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Speaker 2: and something made this wrong. So we put four ball

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Speaker 2: joints in it, cleaned up the wells, put four ball

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Speaker 2: joints in it, and you know, they moved like butter,

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Speaker 2: They really did. We did a great job. We greased

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Speaker 2: where we had a greased we smoothed everything, put it in,

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Speaker 2: the clips went on, and yeah, the truck came out right.

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Speaker 2: The customer's explanation or comment to me was, ron, the

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Speaker 2: truck hasn't steered this good since the day it was new,

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Speaker 2: and it didn't steer that great then, And he kind

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Speaker 2: of asked me the question I was asking myself, But

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Speaker 2: how how do you end up with three sets of

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Speaker 2: bad ball joints or three sets of problems or varying

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Speaker 2: degrees of difficulty? You know the answer is the same story. Right,

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Speaker 2: new means never ever worked. New does not mean good.

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Speaker 2: New means if it's not working right, you better go

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Speaker 2: back and check that part, because maybe you've got a problem.

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Speaker 2: And in the end, you know, because I wasn't there

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Speaker 2: for the first set of ball joints or the second

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Speaker 2: third set of ball joints because I put them in.

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Speaker 2: I know how I put them in. I know I

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Speaker 2: didn't use an air gun to press them in. I

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Speaker 2: turned them in by hand so that I could feel

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Speaker 2: them walk in. And you know, it feels good for

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Speaker 2: the old man to teach the kid because Danny sat

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Speaker 2: there watching me do it, and as we're as we're,

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Speaker 2: you know, pushing the ball joints into their position. Every

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Speaker 2: once in a while, I took out the three pounds

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Speaker 2: sledge and I gave a tap to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the dip where the ball joint was sitting, and you

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Speaker 2: would see it pop and move because it was under

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Speaker 2: a little bit of pressure. You're trying to coax it

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Speaker 2: along right. And the ball joints worked great. Steering damp

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Speaker 2: don work great. And I suppose the point of all

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Speaker 2: this is that there will be times if you're working

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Speaker 2: on your own vehicle, whether you're a mechanic or a

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Speaker 2: do it your selfer, or whether you're talking to your mechanic,

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Speaker 2: and if you're talking to your mechanic, you've got to

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Speaker 2: ask them, you know, will this fix the problem? Very

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Speaker 2: key point, because Robbie said to me, would this fix

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Speaker 2: the problem? I don't know? Was my answer. I said,

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Speaker 2: I know I got a bad ball joint, I know

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Speaker 2: something on the right side, and he was okay with that.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if welding, you know, I still have the joints,

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Speaker 2: I might find the time I might cut them apart.

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Speaker 2: Because my understanding is that that metal ball going into

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Speaker 2: the housing is ensconced or encased in teflon or some

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Speaker 2: sort of plastic liner. And I wonder if the welding

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Speaker 2: damaged the plastic lining on the one side or both sides.

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Speaker 2: But I guess the point becomes it comes back to Ronnie,

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Speaker 2: be sure you're right, and then go ahead. You got

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Speaker 2: to act with confidence in order to repair. And you

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Speaker 2: gotta have a little bit of courage too, because sometimes

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Speaker 5: You call it, that's right, if you call and we're

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's wander over to Illinois and talk to Bill.

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Speaker 3: Bill.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, How.

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Speaker 4: Can I help?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Ron? How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: Sir?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: I got I got a couple of questions for you.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: I got a twenty eighteen Ford f one fifty, got

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Speaker 3: I'm doing he jumping for thirty something thirty five years,

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Speaker 3: But UH had an AGM bat put in it, and

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Speaker 3: So anyway, a month ago, when we had a big

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Speaker 3: And I should have known that when you're when the

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Speaker 3: will kind of shut down a little bit. Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Some of your electronics?

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Speaker 2: Well well, well, well a couple of things here bill, Bill,

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Speaker 2: when when they when they put the battery in? Where'd

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Speaker 3: I got it from a reptavle. Uh. Actually I usually

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Speaker 3: They're at local they've been in business for sixty seventy years.

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Speaker 3: I got hell, i'll try you know what s well?

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Speaker 3: I came out, went went across town, went and got

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Speaker 3: So I called my son up. It's colder, and heck,

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Speaker 3: Next morning, I got up dead battery. So I pulled

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Speaker 3: they put a full charger. Aren't set me home, said Bill,

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Speaker 3: you don't need a new battery. Okay. So now ever

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Speaker 3: since I've been watching it checking it, I mean I've

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Speaker 3: I'm running about twelve, maybe I might be lucky at

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Speaker 3: twelve point five bolts. But then when I started up,

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Speaker 3: I checked the alternator. You know, I got a strong

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Speaker 3: go to I go to Ford. They service it. So

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be going with her next week, and I

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm not having any problems anymore. I just wonder

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Speaker 2: Well, my question is when they took that battery off

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Speaker 2: fresh battery, had it had it sat for two months

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Speaker 2: that battery in the vehicle, the battery should be charged

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Speaker 2: to capacity. You know, it needs to it needs to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ran for I ran for over a year

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Speaker 2: Were you were?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Do you sit a lot?

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Speaker 3: Build?

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Speaker 2: Does the truck sit a lot? Do you short trip?

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Speaker 3: I do a lot of Yeah, I do a lot

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Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, when that for two days? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that still shouldn't do it? Let me ask you

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Speaker 2: I believe on that generation for truck, what year was

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Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen? Yeah, twenty eighteen eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably a battery reset that has to be

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Speaker 2: a big BMI listed they did and they did do that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, No they didn't. I don't. I was there when

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Speaker 2: Okay. So this because this this, this has the classic

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Speaker 2: So what will happen is it will it will affect

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Speaker 2: and charge it. So you may want to you may

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Speaker 2: want to get a look at that and see what

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Speaker 2: that's all about. You know, when you take it into Ford,

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, well I'm doing okay now because it's warm.

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Speaker 3: But if I when I go get my when I

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Speaker 3: ask them, can I sure?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I mean the Ford dealer can sure they can look

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Speaker 3: go out you know.

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Speaker 2: You know the other thing the other thing is just

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Speaker 2: ask Ford. You know, the battery will have cold cranking

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Speaker 2: amps and reserve capacity of the top. Is the battery

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Speaker 2: correct rated for the vehicle? I'm not saying it isn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always did that. This is one time I

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Speaker 3: want is it got I'll look it up. This got

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Speaker 4: Want, right.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, Bill, if you want to gain some knowledge,

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Speaker 2: about auto batteries dot com. Yeah, we'll explain all there

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Speaker 2: is about a GM about you know, why batteries go dead?

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Speaker 2: What cold cranking ams are. It basically takes batteries and

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Speaker 3: Well, I went out, you know, just say how gun

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Speaker 3: you know, you carry them with you. It'll for dead batteries,

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Speaker 3: you know. You put it on there and it'll it'll

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Speaker 3: give it a good it'll start your battery.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, you should have you should have one of those anyway, Bill,

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, yep. Listen, that's good. I got

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Speaker 3: one more question for you.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'll tell you what. Stay put Bill, let me Bill,

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Speaker 2: I'm up against the clock. Stay where you are. Let

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Speaker 2: me pull over. Take this pause. When I come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll come back to you. We'll finish up your questions.

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Speaker 2: I'm running Eney in the car, doctor, and we're chatting

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Speaker 2: with Bill out in Illinois, and we'll both be back

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 4: Don't go away.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, running in the car doctor. Let's get back

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Speaker 2: to Bill. Bill real quick, because my phones are backing up. Kiddo,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? What's the lest No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, hey, that being a module? Is that a big

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Speaker 3: deal to reset?

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Speaker 2: No, you need scan told to do it. If it's equip,

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Speaker 2: which it should be, okay in twenty eighteen it should

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Speaker 3: Now. One other comparisons on synthetic all I run synthetic

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Speaker 3: all all the time. Because they start going to that.

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Speaker 3: It seems like my twenty eighteen, you know, compared to

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Speaker 3: the conventional oil. You know, now you're hearing the lifters.

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Speaker 3: I think clatter a little bit. You know, the engine

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Speaker 2: Not really, Okay, you know it's it's synthetic oil. Has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with lifter tap or engine noise, if anything,

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Speaker 2: that should be protecting it better. So now, now is

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean? You hear that, you know you'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it is it? Is it correct? Viscosity?

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Speaker 2: Is the oil you're using? Does it meet Ford speck

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Speaker 2: if Ford's if Ford's putting it in, if the dealers

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Speaker 2: servicing it, these chances are it does. Now you know,

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Speaker 2: is this a noise that's been there since new or

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Speaker 2: is this something that's developed?

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Speaker 3: No, since it's been new. I've asked them about it

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Speaker 3: and they said, Bill, don't worry about it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've been going, like you said, if they're good, you know,

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Speaker 3: stick with them. They're they're they're good to me, and

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Speaker 3: they'll go. Bill. I bought I bought about FOD trucks

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Speaker 3: from the Ford trucks and this only five point on

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Speaker 3: I'm just wanting I just want to make sure everything.

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Speaker 2: Get rid of Yeah, Bill, every everything is going to

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Speaker 2: a synthetic oil. So the key, the key is the

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Speaker 2: key is it did it when it started? This noise

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Speaker 2: and it hasn't increased in in in in in volume

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Speaker 2: I think that's what your experience.

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Speaker 3: And you know what Ford having Ford to have their their.

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Speaker 2: Own little sound, right, every every It's like people people

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Speaker 2: have their own little sound too, right.

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Speaker 3: So yep, thank you for talking to me. Listen, don't

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Speaker 3: get rid of that Tom Ray because he's a good guy.

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Speaker 2: No, we like Tom So, we absolutely do.

436
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 4: He's the I love.

437
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 3: I love talking to you.

438
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: Thanks, Peggy, we appreciate it. Be very welcome, sir. Be well,

439
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: let's get on over. Let's go talk to is that

440
00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 2: Julian in uh Uh, Arizona, Julian and Arizona. You're with

441
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: the car doctor, sir?

442
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 4: How can I help?

443
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: Hey?

444
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 7: Hey, ron So, I have a twenty have a twenty

445
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 7: seventeen ATSB and it recently started not getting a fuel prime.

446
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 7: So like before you like crank the engine, I can

447
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 7: actually like log it and and see like the fuel pressure,

448
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 7: and you know, like one day I would get you know,

449
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 7: one hundred psi on the you know, on the low side,

450
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 7: and then and then the next day, like it's not

451
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 7: doing it, and now it cranks for a long time,

452
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 7: right because it doesn't build up that fuel pressure until

453
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 7: you are actually like cranking the engine. Okay, and if

454
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 7: you could like help me troubleshoot that circuit.

455
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: So so is your is your concern or is the

456
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 2: symptom forget the fuel prime? Is it that you have

457
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: extended crank?

458
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's extended crank okay.

459
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 2: So in other words, you turn the key and it

460
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: just cranks longer than normal.

461
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, quite a bit. Like I have a I have

462
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 7: HP tuners and like I'll like my laptop end so

463
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 7: I can you know, watch the different like engine parameters

464
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 7: and on the on the low pressure side, so you

465
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 7: see have fuel pressure on the on the low side

466
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 7: and the rail or the high side. And like I've

467
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 7: gone I've gone through like the old logs and where

468
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 7: I've like data recorded before starting you can you can

469
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 7: literally see like the fuel pressure you know, come up

470
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 7: before like the engine starts to turn over. It's like

471
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 7: it was definitely like priming correctly there and then and

472
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 7: now it's not.

473
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: So you're looking at you're looking at high side pressure

474
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: and not seeing a prime, or you're looking at low

475
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: side pressure and not seeing a prime low side low side.

476
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: So the pump doesn't the pump doesn't.

477
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 7: Turn on right, Yeah, and you don't you don't hear

478
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 7: it come on before you know, before you crank and Sokay.

479
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: So let me let me preface the conversation by by

480
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: just saying this, Julian, anytime I get involved in a

481
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: car with tuners and software, I'm always cautious because I

482
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: don't you know, usually you wouldn't think it affect fuel

483
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 2: pump prime. But I always mentioned that, hey, do we

484
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: have a do we have a software issue?

485
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: Here?

486
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: Is there is there a glitch in the software that's

487
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: preventing from happening. So understand as we diagnose this, we're

488
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: up against an unknown I just want to hang that

489
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: out there so we're both aware of it.

490
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, no, absolutely, And that's definitely like the process

491
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 7: that that I'm going down. So when I pull up

492
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 7: like the maintenance manual for the for the car, the

493
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 7: you know, I've chuckled the fuses I've checked the like

494
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 7: the prime relay for that for that pump. All that

495
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 7: stuff looks good from the from the like the wiring

496
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 7: diagram or the maintenance manual. The best I can tell

497
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 7: is that the e CU itself like then commands there's

498
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 7: a fuel pump control module that then I think it

499
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 7: like talks to that and then like that is what

500
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 7: it should be kicking the pump on for the prime.

501
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm so what happens is you turn your

502
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: key on? Well, a couple of things all right, Now,

503
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: GM does some funny things, and I've noticed this on

504
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: on vehicles. Now is my own truck does this? As

505
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: I walk up to my truck twenty two Silverado, if

506
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: I open the driver's door, the fuel pump primes right right?

507
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that makes sense, right because it's all

508
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 7: push button now you right, you're not trying to where

509
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 7: you go past some accessory to kick.

510
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: It on then, right, So chances are and I've never

511
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it yet because the truck still works,

512
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: and I haven't had time to sit down and play

513
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: with it, because I find it fascinating that it does that.

514
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that we could do that via scan tool.

515
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: Maybe we could, maybe we can't, but I'd want to

516
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: break out a wiring diagram. Where's it get that voltage input?

517
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: Where does it get that signal in something? Something tells

518
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: the the PCM to wake up. It's probably a pulse

519
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: from the BCM because the body module is what's controlling

520
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: the door handles in my mind, so you know what

521
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: you've got to do is sit down and trace out

522
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: in the wiring where does the signal come from. It's

523
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: it's if you're not a hit the door handle and

524
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: it gets a prime, then it's going to be from

525
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: either key going in and the BCM waking up, commanding

526
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: the PCM then commanding the fuel pump module to command

527
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 2: the pump all right, to wake things up. Or it's

528
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: going to be the engine actually turning over seeing a

529
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: crank signal and that moment of crank signal will generate

530
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: a prime to keep it going. That was old school thinking.

531
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm thinking now with with GDI this is going to

532
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: be slightly different. But how about this. Can we go

533
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: to the fuel pump with a vault meter and just

534
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: see when when you think it should have fuel pump

535
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: prime and whatever mode you're in do you actually get

536
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: power and ground back to the pump. Could we have

537
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: a bad pump?

538
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

539
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I mean I definitely can. Right, you got

540
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 7: to drop the tank to do that, so you know

541
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 7: it's some hours, but I mean I can definitely do that.

542
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 7: Maybe that's maybe that's the next step we I mean,

543
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 7: I'm watching it like on the computer screen, and when

544
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 7: you when the engine, when you know, hit the start button,

545
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 7: you physically crank it.

546
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: Like then, well, why don't we go to the fuel pump?

547
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Why don't Why don't we Why don't we go to

548
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: the fuel pump module and see if we're getting a

549
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: voltage command out of the module. Where's the module located

550
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: on that car?

551
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's it's underneath there. You can you can

552
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 7: get to it, right, It's reason.

553
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: It's you know, I'm getting old and lazy. It's always

554
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: easier to get to the something else. I'll go to

555
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: the something else because I've got power and ground, or

556
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: or it's actually going to be duty cycle controlled. We're

557
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: going to see powers. Probably the pump's always hot and

558
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: then it's duty cycle control from the fuel pump module.

559
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: So we might need a lambscope to look at this

560
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: and just to say.

561
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 7: The best I can tell is like during prime it

562
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 7: doesn't it doesn't go through a pulse with modulated that

563
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 7: just kicks it on for two seconds.

564
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: Okay, However, it's still like I'm not good.

565
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 7: With electrical diagrams and you know that stuff. So that's

566
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 7: I could definitely be wrong on that, but that's the

567
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 7: best I can tell.

568
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: Well, whether it's pulse with or not, it's probably controlled

569
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: through the same wire. It's just how the PCM wants

570
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: to send out the signal. Listen, we can you know,

571
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: we can look at certain cars. I can think of

572
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: one recently, an O seven Dodge Grand Caravan. Depending upon

573
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: what's what mode it's in to activate the natural vacuum

574
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: leak detection pump, the PCM has the ability to put

575
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: out either twelve vaults or five vaults. Dig that so

576
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: you know who's who's the saying that pulse with duty

577
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: cycle line. Without looking at a diagram and understanding operation,

578
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: it can't provide a constant ground versus a pulse with control.

579
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: So but my point is, go to the easiest place

580
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: you can. Does it have power and ground going out

581
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: to the pump. If it does, pump's got to work,

582
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: then it's then it's time to drop the tank. If

583
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't, then let's look at that and see why not.

584
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: But I will caution you. Well, I can't caution you

585
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: because we don't have factory software in it. If we

586
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: have factory software in it, I would think there are

587
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: safeguards that it commanded something didn't see a rise in pressure,

588
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: and it would set a code for it. I don't

589
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: know what tuner software does.

590
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I mean like I've obviously like, well I

591
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 7: should say obviously like it certainly put like the original

592
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 7: like tune back on like you know, reflash, you know

593
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 7: all the computers that you know, like I've modified to

594
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 7: you know, eliminate that as a variable, right, And so

595
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 7: the you know what I know is like the fuel

596
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 7: the fuel pump works like it gets power as soon

597
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 7: as the engine like turns over, is cranking. So it's

598
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 7: literally it's whatever the command or the circuit for the prime.

599
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: Like not where's it?

600
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 6: Right?

601
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: Why isn't it going through? What's what's holding it up?

602
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: And is that is that a result of the tuner software.

603
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: Let me leave you with this because let's talk about

604
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: something simple. Get your hands on GM bulletin sixteen NADSK

605
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: three eighty three. Okay, all right, and it talks about information.

606
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: It's information on a rough fidle, a crank, no start,

607
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: extended crank due to excessive carbon on tops of the

608
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: valves or sticking valves. Just just to throw it out there,

609
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: all right, you know, long crank time, extended crank time

610
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: on a gd I. We we always think about carbon

611
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: deposits too. I get it that the fuel pump doesn't

612
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: turn on and that bothers you, but I just want

613
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: to add that to the mix because when you find

614
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: out it's not fuel pump related, it's something else, I

615
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: want you to reference that and think about carbon deposits

616
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: creating this issue as well.

617
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: Sure.

618
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I recently had the intake off and like looked

619
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 7: at the like looked at the valves and they're they're

620
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 7: pretty clean. Surprisingly Okay, they do it. They do a

621
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 7: good job of like PCV systems now right, so pretty cool?

622
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 7: All right, Yeah, it's pretty clear in the logs, like

623
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 7: the fuel pump was coming on and then now it's not.

624
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Okay, tell you what pill Let me let me pull

625
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: over and take a pause. If you can take a

626
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: look at wiring diagrams. If you need a wiring diagram,

627
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: send me an email Ron at Cardoctorshow dot com and

628
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: I'll try and highlight what you're looking for. Send me

629
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: the vin of the vehicle so I have that as well,

630
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: and i'll have something to reference by Ron at cardoctorshow

631
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: dot com. I'll look for the email. Thank you. I'm

632
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: ronning Any in the Car Doctor. I'm back right after this.

633
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: We're back. Hey, it's ron An Any the car Doctor.

634
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: I think we're h I think we're having a glitch there.

635
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Let's let's go to Salin, Vermont and see what this

636
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: is all about. Sal Welcome back to the Car Doctor, sir.

637
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: How can I help?

638
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 6: Hey? Ron, thank you so nice to get you on

639
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 6: the phone.

640
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, thank you.

641
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 6: I've been listening to you for quite a while and

642
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 6: I got a lot of really good inso from you.

643
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: I have a twenty sixteen four Runner with two hundreds

644
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: thirty thousand miles on it. I do a lot of

645
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 6: preventive maintenance. My plan is to keep this rig for

646
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 6: five hundred or plus miles, okay, five hundred thousand plus.

647
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 6: I've religiously changed the oil using mobile one synthetic. I've

648
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 6: undercoded it three or four times since i've had it.

649
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 6: I've done drain and fill on the transmission three times.

650
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 6: I've started to change parts like the front bearings and

651
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 6: things like that, because I've been driving these things since

652
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 6: ninety six, so i know about when the mileage gets

653
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 6: to a point to where things start breaking down. Words.

654
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 6: I've had four of these since ninety six. Your question,

655
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 6: my question is do you recommend doing an engine flush?

656
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Is there a such thing?

657
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 6: And is there a chemical?

658
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: No, it's the point you're using. You're using a good

659
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: quality oil. You're changing the oil on a regular basis.

660
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you get to the three hundred

661
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: thousand mile mark, you want to run some crank case

662
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: cleaner through it, something rated for the engine, something safe,

663
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: something that's not too caustic. Sure, go ahead. Is it

664
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: gonna help?

665
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

666
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: I think? I think regular oil changes and fuel system

667
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: cleaning on a regular basis, using a real kit, you know,

668
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: doing something that's going to clean the injectors and clean

669
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: the tops of the pistons in the back of the valves.

670
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: I think that's a bigger deal. And just staying on

671
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: top of fluids and just having some sort of rotating

672
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: schedule of fluid replacement. I think that's the best. I

673
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: think that's the best bet and the best advantage you

674
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: could expect out of a vehicle. Look, everything's going to break, right,

675
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of staying on top of it,

676
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: minimizing it through neglect.

677
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: You know, do you recommend I use a CRC product

678
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 6: in my gas? Now?

679
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Yeah, listen, I like techron.

680
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: You know, we use techron on a regular bases the shop.

681
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Every once in a while, we'll use a product called

682
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: sea foam. It depends on the vehicle.

683
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: You know.

684
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: Cr C makes a good product. We like that. You know,

685
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: I'd have to read the chemistry reports because that's you

686
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: know what I always say about fuel system cleaners is

687
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: it's only as good as the engineer that designed it

688
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: that week. Because with the way fuels change, with the

689
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: way engines change, with the ever evolving you know, change

690
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: in production of vehicles, you know, they've got to stay

691
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: up on their game. Look, if fuel system cleaner from

692
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty work, we'd still be talking about as TP

693
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: fuel treatment. And you don't hear anything about that anymore, right,

694
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's so so it's it's it's how

695
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: they change and how they evolve, and that's what's important.

696
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: So that being said, I think you know, oil changes

697
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: on a regular basis, fluid, you know, replacement on a

698
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: regular basis, normal maintenance. You know, hopefully by now you've

699
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: done spark plugs once or twice or three times? Threeh

700
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: what you got three hundred thousand on it? You said, uh, yeah,

701
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: so you've done plugs at least once, and you're coming

702
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: do a second time.

703
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm yes, right.

704
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 6: What about the timing chain in this?

705
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: That is a belt? Correct? Not a chain?

706
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 6: I think it's a chain. It's not a belt.

707
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: What engine is that sixteen to four runner?

708
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 6: I know, I don't remember. Then.

709
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: I believe it's the V six correct, the three point

710
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: five V six.

711
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a V six.

712
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: In sixteen, I believe as a I can't you know.

713
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Now you got me wondering. I'm gonna say, oh, that's.

714
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: A good question.

715
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, I think it's a belt. Somewhere

716
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: around that time, let me think for a second. Somewhere

717
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: around that time they did go to chains. But if

718
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: it is a chain, the only time we replace chains

719
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: is when we have timing issues or engine noise or

720
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: something of that magnitude. But as far as as far

721
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: as you know doing doing timing belts, it should have

722
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: had one by now. I would do that. I'll tell

723
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: you what. If it is a chain motor, then it's

724
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: got the water pump that always fails. I would definitely

725
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: be considering doing a water pump. And because it's nine

726
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: years old, replacing the radiator on a preventative maintenance basis

727
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: isn't a bad idea either. Even though it's not leaking,

728
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: the plastic gets brittle and if you look at it,

729
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: it's probably starting to lose some of its shine. And

730
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: that's the oil leaving the plastic of the radiator and

731
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: creating a problem. So you can do that as well.

732
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: Good luck to you. Keep me posted. I'm running dy

733
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: in the car doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back,

734
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: running in the card doctor. Let's finish out with some

735
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: emails here, Hey, Rob, what do you think about a

736
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: two thousand and five Ford Focus as a used cart

737
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: ul overhead cam here that a bad coil can take

738
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: out the PCM on those Thanks? I listened to you

739
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: down here on WMLB sixteen ninety in Atlanta. Lou Louis

740
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: So I think wrote in and asked me the cafe ruling.

741
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: I like you to talk about with the Cafe ruling

742
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: sometime and why it is stupid Lou in Atlanta. I

743
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: don't know, Lou, I don't think the Cafe ruling is

744
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: st but it's you know, it's it's something we have

745
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: to live with right in the day, in the day

746
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: and age of you know, corporate average fuel economy. They're

747
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: worried about some sort of regulation to maintain fuel economy

748
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: standards and keep everybody on a level playing field. I agree,

749
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: it can be a pain in the neck. And you know,

750
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: I love how they can get around certain things on Cafe.

751
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: They can buy fuel credits, they can sell gas guzzlers

752
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: on one hand, but sell more of a better fuel

753
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: economy car the other way. And you know, the Cafe

754
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: thing would probably be a show worth dedicating to. As

755
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: far as the five focus being a bad car, now,

756
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: I think they're okay. I think, like anything else has

757
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: got to be checked out, and you know, make sure

758
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: you have a mechanic, go through a checklist of some

759
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: kind and advise condition. Anything can have a problem with

760
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: a coil and a computer. Just for the record, I

761
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: appreciate the question, Lou. I'm ronning ay in the car

762
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: doctor until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

763
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: See you