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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Sabor production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm any Reason and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we

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Speaker 1: have an episode for you about pork roll and or

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Speaker 1: Taylor Ham. Don't yell at us. I feel I gonna

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Speaker 1: use them interchangeably. We are. I feel like even putting

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Speaker 1: one term before the other term was just controversial. Please

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Speaker 1: please don't come at us. We have no pork in

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Speaker 1: this race. Uh. We We love all of you and

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Speaker 1: your strong opinions. We genuinely do. And it was funny

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Speaker 1: that you say that because I originally called this outline

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Speaker 1: when I started it Taylor Ham. And then I noticed

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Speaker 1: throughout I was using pork roll more and I was like,

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Speaker 1: what if somebody gets ahold of this, and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get out what I've done? Because drama listeners so much drama,

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Speaker 1: so much strong opinions. It is quite fun. Um and

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Speaker 1: shout out to our listeners, including but not limited to,

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Speaker 1: Matt Danielle, Tracy Howard. I think the email wasn't signed,

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Speaker 1: but that was the address, Um and Leon. So that's

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Speaker 1: already a handful of people have said, you've got to

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Speaker 1: talk about this. We've read their listener mails on the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: so we did it. We're here, yeah, here we are. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I will say, um, I don't have any experience

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Speaker 1: with this one. Perhaps clearly. I'm actually very impressed at

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Speaker 1: how specifically regional this is, um, because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff that's like, oh, this is like a southern thing,

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Speaker 1: this is a Northeastern thing, like oh, man, like this

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Speaker 1: one's definitely from from the Pacific northwest. But but this

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Speaker 1: is so it's like New Jersey and parts of Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: as far as I can tell. And that's it. There

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Speaker 1: are actual maps you can look up. It's amazing. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you don't have any experience with it either, right,

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Speaker 1: Not that I am personally aware of. Um. I did

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Speaker 1: live in Ohio and Pennsylvania for a time when I

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Speaker 1: was very young, but I was more in like in

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Speaker 1: like western Pennsylvania, and I think this is more like

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Speaker 1: an eastern Pennsylvania thing. So if I did have it

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Speaker 1: as a kid, I do not remember it, and I

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Speaker 1: do not believe I've encountered it as an adult. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so probably not. So we're flying we're both flying blind

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Speaker 1: on this one. We have only the extraordinarily extensive opinions

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Speaker 1: of the Internet to go off. Yes, And speaking of that, um,

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Speaker 1: I do want to say at the top, uh, I,

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Speaker 1: so we are coming out of Halloween weekend when we

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Speaker 1: when I was researching this, it was the Monday of Halloween,

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Speaker 1: so after Halloween weekend, and I was exhausted, so exhausted.

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Speaker 1: It's not even that I did too much, but it's

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Speaker 1: not more than I'm used to since the pandemic. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, surely, you know, this is a pretty regional thing.

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Speaker 1: I can I can knock this out. Not it won't

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Speaker 1: take too long to at least get the basics of

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Speaker 1: what it is. And it's the first time listeners that

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Speaker 1: I have fallen asleep at my laptop in years. And

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Speaker 1: the last thing I typed that I don't remember typing

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Speaker 1: was leave me b because I kept finding so much more,

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Speaker 1: probably opinion an article that I was like, I can

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Speaker 1: do anymore. I love it, I'm endeared by it. But

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Speaker 1: my goodness, Yeah, well, it's it's gonna be okay, Annie,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be okay. We're just we're impartial

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Speaker 1: observers were here to report the facts such as they are.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh, And and that's yeah, that's all that we

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Speaker 1: can do. I think I think it's going to turn

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Speaker 1: out all right. I think so too. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: it is really fun. It just I got a good chuckle.

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Speaker 1: The next morning when I woke up, I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I fell asleep on my laptop. Why did

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Speaker 1: I right leave me be Oh yeah, Taylor Ham No,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah me too, me too.

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Speaker 1: Um and uh in in the first of many controversial

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Speaker 1: things that I'm going to say. Um, you can see

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Speaker 1: our scrapple and our spam episodes for like a little

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Speaker 1: bit more on similar American products. Yes, you are correct,

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Speaker 1: that is controversial, but at least you didn't say that

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Speaker 1: one another thing that you should never do, which if

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Speaker 1: you know, you know? Um? Okay. Also, National pork Roll

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Speaker 1: Day is May Tree. Okay, okay, okay, Well now I'm

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Speaker 1: nervous already. All right, here we go. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: our question. Let's do it. Let's do it. Taylor have

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Speaker 1: slash pork roll? What are they? Is it? Uh? Whatever

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Speaker 1: you call it? What we are talking about here today

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Speaker 1: is a pre cooked, processed pork product wherein the meat

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Speaker 1: has been blended, smooth and seasoned. Then pressed into a

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Speaker 1: loaf shaped like a like a round or a log,

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Speaker 1: and cured, smoked, and or otherwise cooked. It is mostly

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Speaker 1: a commercial product, and folks are secretive about their recipes

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Speaker 1: as well. They should be get it, y'all. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: served with a breakfasts and on sandwiches, or chopped into

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Speaker 1: other dishes. I again have not had it, so I

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Speaker 1: am not speaking from personal experience, but I understand that

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Speaker 1: smooth type of sausage that's soft and salty, not like

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Speaker 1: too too fatty, but kind of fatty, um, a little smoky,

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Speaker 1: a little spiced um and cooks up with crisped edges. Uh,

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Speaker 1: sort of like a like a mile more to adela

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Speaker 1: without the chunks of fat or other mixings, or like

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Speaker 1: a stronger bologna um like like a like a smooth

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Speaker 1: porkine breakfast meat loaf. Yeah, y'all, y'all tell me it

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Speaker 1: sounds incredibly satisfying like that that combination of crisp edges

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Speaker 1: the meat. It sounds really nice. I love how many

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Speaker 1: articles I've found started with essentially the same story of

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Speaker 1: like Dad in his robes on Christmas Day or something

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Speaker 1: kicking pork. So it sounds yeah, it sounds delicious. Please

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Speaker 1: let us know. Yeah, yeah, if you have, if you

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Speaker 1: have the poetry for us, then then then then please

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Speaker 1: right in. Um okay uh. There are two like main

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Speaker 1: producers of these products, both out of Trenton, New Jersey, um,

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Speaker 1: though a number of other producers local to the area

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Speaker 1: bit more widespread. The logs or rolls tend to be

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Speaker 1: uh like five or six inches in diameter, often somewhere

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Speaker 1: as I can tell, there are two main varieties of

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Speaker 1: real difference on the labels is that the tangy types

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Speaker 1: will list lactic acid starter culture as an ingredient, so

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Speaker 1: we can assume that the tangy nous comes from a

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Speaker 1: curing process in which friendly lactic acid bacteria are encouraged

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Speaker 1: that are added and pooping flavor bacteria. Uh. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys, I have read a lot today about pork

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Speaker 1: roll and or Taylor ham um, and I cannot tell

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Speaker 1: you exactly how it is made. Uh. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you the products like Bologny and Mortidella are made by okay,

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Speaker 1: blending everything smooth. Um. Then you shape it into logs.

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Speaker 1: sold in canvas bags of this type. You can also

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Speaker 1: buy it shrink wrapped in pre sliced rounds. It is

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Speaker 1: not shelf stable, um. It is a chilled deli or

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Speaker 1: sausages or other processed meats. Yeah. One of the properties

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Speaker 1: But y'all, y'all tell me, I don't Oh wow, is

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Speaker 1: my gosh, okay, yeah, please let us know. My my

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Speaker 1: dad used to cook fried bologna, which I know is

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Speaker 1: So interesting. Yeah, okay, but right right. Um. It is

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Speaker 1: for pastas or for pizza. Um, you might use it

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Speaker 1: there are so many recipes that you said. Um, and

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Yes, Well what about the nutrition. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a calorically dense food. Um, high and fat

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Speaker 1: a in some ways surprisingly localized thing. At least half

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Speaker 1: a dozen companies in New Jersey produced the meat needed

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. And we're going to talk. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: are in the history section. But New Jersey holds an

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Speaker 1: annual pork roll festival, but more than one, there are

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Speaker 1: rival festivals on the same weekend. New Jersey um okay

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Speaker 1: uh Rutgers Eagleton did a poll in They pulled up

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Speaker 1: forty three phone respondents, and this poll revealed that percent

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Speaker 1: of overall residents of New Jersey call it a park roll,

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Speaker 1: call it Taylor ham H two used the names interchangeably,

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Speaker 1: don't use either term, aren't really sure what they call it? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right. However, furthermore, there is a strong North South

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Speaker 1: Jersey divide um of North Jersey ears use the term

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Speaker 1: And furthermore, it is more divisive the longer you've lived there. Uh.

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Speaker 1: have a strong opinion one way or another. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's fantastic. And I read that it was like a

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Oh my gosh, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Um. Here's a quote from a New

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Speaker 1: in the history part, who has asked about the great

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Speaker 1: name debate on in ja dot com or New Jersey

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Speaker 1: New York City. Taylor hand versus pork roll is something

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Speaker 1: that is solely ours. That's why we will forever fight

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Speaker 1: and I do love this. There's something about those kinds

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Speaker 1: that look like skulls. Yes, fantastic absolutely oh. Um. Kelsey wrote,

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Speaker 1: you asked for horror Christmas foods and my house it's Halloween.

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Speaker 1: E's and beanies for the win uh with black beans,

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Speaker 1: massala unreasonably delicious. I need you to know how loud

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Speaker 1: can't wait. I can't wait. And that also sounds delicious.

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Speaker 1: Pumpkin seeds. I need to mix up my seasoning. I

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Speaker 1: I need to fix it up. Don't be don't be

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Speaker 1: sacrificed chords. Again, I love this. I love how on

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Speaker 1: Halloween we're all like, let's come out with the goffy

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Speaker 1: At other times of the year, like pretty into a

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Speaker 1: Halloween pun it's great and oh yeah, yeah you know,

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Speaker 1: and we we are the weirdos. Mr come on, yes, yes,

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