Speaker 1: Hell I Suck at Dating with Dengler and Dared Haben
Speaker 1: I heart radio podcast. Hey, welcome to help I Suck
Speaker 1: at Dating. I am Jared, have been and I'm actually
Speaker 1: currently in a hotel in New Jersey right now. I'm
Speaker 1: visiting Ashley's year old grandmother, God bless her. Uh. Dean
Speaker 1: is going to join us in a few minutes. I
Speaker 1: think he's having internet troubles right now. He's still in
Speaker 1: Europe traveling the world with his beautiful girlfriend. And if
Speaker 1: you follow Diana and Caitlin, they've actually been posting some
Speaker 1: pretty awesome stuff. I'm pretty jealous. I have some serious fomo,
Speaker 1: so I'm glad you're enjoying it over there. Hopefully his
Speaker 1: internet connection will be okay and he'll join here in
Speaker 1: just a few minutes. But we do have some hot
Speaker 1: topics to talk about, specifically about a topic that Hannah,
Speaker 1: our producer, is very invested in, and I want her
Speaker 1: to join me on this conversation. Hannah, first of all,
Speaker 1: how are you? And I was gonna attempt to pronounce
Speaker 1: your name, I'm going to butcher it, but Hannah, Nuke
Speaker 1: and Bomber, Okay, you were close? Are you saying naer
Speaker 1: nuke a bauer Okay, and that's and that's German. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's German. No one ever gets it right, so don't
Speaker 1: even worry about it. So when you go on dates,
Speaker 1: is this like a hot topic when people like, how
Speaker 1: do you say your last name? Oh? What is it?
Speaker 1: You know? Are you German? Is it a conversation starter
Speaker 1: for you sometimes? But fun fact, I've never actually been
Speaker 1: on a date because I've only been dating my first boyfriend. Like,
Speaker 1: I've never dated in my life. You've never dated in
Speaker 1: your life? How long have you guys been together? Over
Speaker 1: four years? Wait? How old are you? Hannah? I just
Speaker 1: turned twenty two. Okay, so you've been together since you
Speaker 1: were eighteen? Yes, so it wasn't a high school romance.
Speaker 1: It was after high school. Yeah, I met him on
Speaker 1: my first day of college. Actually, usually that's the complete opposite.
Speaker 1: Usually you have a high school romance and then you
Speaker 1: go to college and then you guys break up totally.
Speaker 1: I know it's backwards. Wait, so did you go to
Speaker 1: college thinking like, Oh, I'm gonna go I'm gonna date guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet people, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And then day one you meet your potential future husband. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't actually want a relationship at all. I was
Speaker 1: very anti and it just happened. Well, that's amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: it looks like Dean's in the waiting room too, so
Speaker 1: he's going to join us right now. That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: So you've never so you've been on a first date
Speaker 1: obviously because you went on a first date with your
Speaker 1: new boyfriend. Yeah. I think it's just different because we
Speaker 1: started dating in college, so when we were hanging out,
Speaker 1: it was at like parties and it wasn't a super
Speaker 1: official first state, but we definitely had like a first dinner.
Speaker 1: I wish you was on because I'm curious what he
Speaker 1: thinks your first date was compared to what you think
Speaker 1: your first date was. But that's a good question. I'll
Speaker 1: have to ask him that later. What do you think
Speaker 1: your first date was? Like? Is it the first time
Speaker 1: that you guys kind of hung out or is it
Speaker 1: like an official Hey, let's get dinner and that's the
Speaker 1: first day. Well, the first time we hung out actually
Speaker 1: was on my birthday four years ago, September four, and
Speaker 1: I went over to his apartment. We just talked forever,
Speaker 1: but then we The first time we got dinner was
Speaker 1: at just this on campus food place, so technically maybe
Speaker 1: that's our first date. He took me to dinner, but
Speaker 1: it was so cute. It was just super casual. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the casual makes the best first date totally. First of all,
Speaker 1: happy belated birthday. By the way, Stem four just past.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Did you do anything fun or you, guys,
Speaker 1: because you're in l A so it's still a little
Speaker 1: bit quarantinely over there. Yeah, we just hung out and
Speaker 1: went to the beach, got dinner. Oh nice. So now
Speaker 1: you guys can say you went on your first date.
Speaker 1: You finally got dinner together, totally, And so I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring you in because this is a topic that
Speaker 1: you said you are very invested in, and it's about
Speaker 1: Scott Disick and listen, I love Lord Dissack. I've become
Speaker 1: a fan of keeping up with the Kardashians through my
Speaker 1: wife Ashley, who obviously is a huge Kardashian fan. I've
Speaker 1: seen episodes. I never really sat down and watched it,
Speaker 1: but I have a certain level of respect for all
Speaker 1: the Kardashians, their business savvy nous uh and I also
Speaker 1: have always loved Scott dis sick, but apparently he's calling
Speaker 1: out his ex Courtney Kardashian uh in a private d
Speaker 1: M that got exposed to the public. So Unice apparently
Speaker 1: leaked a d M from Scott Disac calling out Courtney
Speaker 1: Karadashian and Travis Scott kissing having full on p d
Speaker 1: A in Italy. So Unice shared this d M that
Speaker 1: says from Scott Discac supposedly, yo is this chick okay?
Speaker 1: Explanation point question mark question mark qush mark bro Like,
Speaker 1: what is this in the middle of Italy, to which
Speaker 1: Unite apparently responded, doesn't matter to me as long as
Speaker 1: she happy. Ps, I ain't your bro. So apparently Scott
Speaker 1: Discac is mad that Courty Kardashian in is having full
Speaker 1: on p d A with her now boyfriend Travis Scott
Speaker 1: in Italy. So what do you think about this, Hannah?
Speaker 1: Why are you so invested in this story? Well? I
Speaker 1: just think it's interesting because Courtney's two ex boyfriends are
Speaker 1: talking about her in a d M and it gets leaked.
Speaker 1: Like if I had two ex boyfriends in the Scott
Speaker 1: leaked I would feel so strange about it. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Why would Scott disn't care so much, right, and it's
Speaker 1: you jealous? Kind of seems like it. I think he's
Speaker 1: definitely jealous. Dean. Hello, Hey, guys, can you hear me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're joining in the middle of podcast. I'm sorry, buddy,
Speaker 1: what do you mean the middle of the podcast? I'm
Speaker 1: three minutes late. You guys started without me that early.
Speaker 1: You're fifteen minutes late. Oh my gosh. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought the first I thought the first fifteen minutes were
Speaker 1: like recording ad and everyone knew that I was already
Speaker 1: gonna be a little late, so they really wanted me
Speaker 1: to like join it like fifty five after the hour. Obviously,
Speaker 1: lesson learned on my part. I apologize. We were at
Speaker 1: a nice dinner and then I got to log on
Speaker 1: my computer and I realized I left my microphone in
Speaker 1: the car. No, how was your dinner? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful, wonderful dinner. How many more nights
Speaker 1: you guys have there? Oh my gosh. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: got into the Dolomites yesterday afternoon around like eight pm.
Speaker 1: Dolomites in Italy are incredibly beautiful. Were in South Tyrol
Speaker 1: right now, Sorry, I'm a little out of breath. I
Speaker 1: literally was just sprinting to and from the car and
Speaker 1: then parking lot because I forgot my freaking cord for
Speaker 1: this microphone and I wanted to you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be late, at least I can give the listeners
Speaker 1: good audio quality out of this. So that's that's really
Speaker 1: kind of where my head is at. I think you
Speaker 1: sound great. Um, yes, it's because I sprinted it freaking
Speaker 1: three miles to get the court. Anyways. Yeah, so we're
Speaker 1: here for two nights. Wed we drive to another place
Speaker 1: tomorrow night for two nights, and then we drive down
Speaker 1: to Tuscany. And let me tell you this. We're driving
Speaker 1: a lot around the Italian countryside and it is freaking
Speaker 1: beautiful here. But one thing we like didn't overlook, but
Speaker 1: we would may be like under emphasized, was that renting
Speaker 1: a manual car, like a stick shift automobile. It's kind
Speaker 1: of kind of bit us in the butt a little bit.
Speaker 1: Kaitlin gets like the best part of the deal. She
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to drive a stick so I'm stuck
Speaker 1: driving us six hours a day. She's just sitting in
Speaker 1: the passenger seat freaking playing a little crossroad puzzles damn
Speaker 1: it out on Spotify, yelling at you anytime you get
Speaker 1: too close to the curb. Yeah, oh my gosh. That
Speaker 1: is one of the most stressing things. The front seat
Speaker 1: driver where she's like, oh my gosh, watch out for
Speaker 1: that car over there, and I'm like, yeah, hello, I'm
Speaker 1: driving this car. Of course I see that car over
Speaker 1: there as she shakes her finger. Ashley does the exact
Speaker 1: same thing anytime a car comes into our lane anywhere nearest,
Speaker 1: like literally within fifty feet. She's like, and I'm like, Ashley,
Speaker 1: I got it, thank you, I appreciate it. And like
Speaker 1: the thing is I kind of like get angry at
Speaker 1: myself for like being upset about it, but at the
Speaker 1: same time too, like I don't want to say it's
Speaker 1: a manly thing, but it's like, hello, Like I'm obviously
Speaker 1: driving this car. I I see everything that's going on,
Speaker 1: not just in the hun eighty degrees in front of me,
Speaker 1: but they also the hunter a reason behind me. I
Speaker 1: know everything that's going on right now. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: look up from your phone for two seconds and give
Speaker 1: a little shriek because you think I'm doing something that's
Speaker 1: a little dangerous. When in reality, it's not dangerous at all.
Speaker 1: It's just it's there's no place. I mean again, it's
Speaker 1: coming from a good place, but it's just like, just
Speaker 1: let me do my thing. You're gonna get to where
Speaker 1: you gotta get too safely. Don't worry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have precious card now you're taking care of. So
Speaker 1: I did want to go back to this article that
Speaker 1: we were talking about. I don't want to bring Hanna
Speaker 1: back in here too, because she's very invested in this topic.
Speaker 1: So pretty much uh notes on this Dean is Scott
Speaker 1: Disick who used to be married to Courtney kardashi and
Speaker 1: they were not married, not married okay, sorry, thank you,
Speaker 1: Hannah to feel free to correct me. And my wife
Speaker 1: is yelling at me from the other room telling me
Speaker 1: they weren't married Scott Disick and Courtney Kardashian. Hey, Caitlin
Speaker 1: also yelled at you from across the room here that
Speaker 1: they're not okay. So I just want to let you
Speaker 1: know everyone's yelling at you that they're not marring. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: I got it. Not married, not married. Everybody canna hear me?
Speaker 1: They were not married, but they do have kids together.
Speaker 1: Am I right on? That one okay, three kids together,
Speaker 1: telling me okay, So Scott and Courtney have three kids together,
Speaker 1: and she used to apparently date this other guy, Unice.
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is, but apparently Scott d
Speaker 1: m Unice with a picture of Courtney and Travis Scott,
Speaker 1: her new boyfriend, making out in public and Italy and
Speaker 1: their d m read yo is this chick? Okay? Bro? Like?
Speaker 1: What is this in the middle of Italy, to which
Speaker 1: Unice responded to Scott distick saying, doesn't matter to me
Speaker 1: as long as she's happy. Ps I ain't your bro.
Speaker 1: So Hannah is very invest into this because it's weird
Speaker 1: that like two ex boyfriends of Courtney Kardashian are talking
Speaker 1: about her, which is kind of weird. I don't know
Speaker 1: why Scott disc would like d m Unice this, okay,
Speaker 1: I um, I just gotta interjected. Hunter probably knows the
Speaker 1: answer to this question. It's it's weird that they're d
Speaker 1: ming each other. But how do we know that they
Speaker 1: were demming each other? So Unice is the one who
Speaker 1: screenshot at this because apparently Scott d m Unice another
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend of Courtney, and said the message like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: what is this trying to make fun of Courtney and
Speaker 1: Travis Scott making out in public and then Unite screenshot
Speaker 1: at it and released it to the public. Supposedly this
Speaker 1: is a allegedly Yeah, well, they're all right, they're all
Speaker 1: looking for attention, which you fully understand. You gotta attention
Speaker 1: pays the bills when you're when you're in their realm.
Speaker 1: But it's still whenever someone um screenshots like a message,
Speaker 1: like a like a string of messages and post them
Speaker 1: all over Instagram, especially someone like that, you know, like
Speaker 1: someone with a platform or whatever. I said, I pretty hard,
Speaker 1: but I would love to hear Haunta's take on all this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think Scots jobs. First of all,
Speaker 1: I think it's Scott's definitely jealous Scott super geals. I
Speaker 1: think it's a red flag that Unite posted it to
Speaker 1: Instagram trying to come off as the nice guy because
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to show off his response. We've
Speaker 1: seen that before, haven't we did? Yeah? I mean, guilty,
Speaker 1: guilty you Oh do you just assumes you know the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole blake thing when he released the d M
Speaker 1: s of Klin and I was messed up, right, right,
Speaker 1: right right. Anyways, Hana, back to your back to your
Speaker 1: side of everything. I mean, I just think it's so
Speaker 1: interesting because then I think this caused some issues in
Speaker 1: Scott Discac and Amelia Hamlin's relationship. So it's just such
Speaker 1: a snowball effect and there's so much to uncover here.
Speaker 1: And just to just to clarify, Amelia Hamlin is the
Speaker 1: nineteen year old girl that he's dating, right, correct, but
Speaker 1: they are no longer dating. They just recently, which we're
Speaker 1: going to get to our next article, which all like
Speaker 1: intertwines everything. Now, this is from e Amelia Hamlin sends
Speaker 1: cryptic message amid Scott Disick turmoil with a quote never settled.
Speaker 1: So Amelia Hamlin is twenty years old. She was dating
Speaker 1: Scott Discac, who is thirty eight years old. She's the daughter.
Speaker 1: What I know, they just broke up. So this is
Speaker 1: what happens. See, this is exactly what was happening to
Speaker 1: you in the car, Dean, where like Ashley barely hears
Speaker 1: anything that we're talking about and immediately interjects with news
Speaker 1: that I've already covered. It's the same thing. Klin, looking
Speaker 1: at her phone, looks out for two seconds and tells
Speaker 1: you something that you already know because you see the
Speaker 1: car in the other lane. I digress. Uh. So Amelia
Speaker 1: Hamlin and Scott disac have broken up. She was twenty,
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight. There's a big age difference. Obviously. She
Speaker 1: is the daughter of Lisa Renna, who is the you
Speaker 1: know who this person is. She's an actress, she's on
Speaker 1: Real Housewife, she's very famous. Uh. And so Amelia throughout
Speaker 1: this entire drama posted a cryptic message on her Instagram
Speaker 1: story that read, never settle for less, not with your job,
Speaker 1: your friends, and especially not with your heart. Continue to
Speaker 1: seek what you are looking for, and do not shrink
Speaker 1: yourself for the sake of other people. You deserve the best.
Speaker 1: So my question is, Hannah, you probably know best. Is
Speaker 1: she talking about Scott Disac here? I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: everybody thinks. That's I think it's just too much of
Speaker 1: a coincidence for it not to be. And then they
Speaker 1: break up. It's Scott. It's totally like, wasn't this whole
Speaker 1: whole storyline? I'm keeping with the Kardashians that Chloe and
Speaker 1: Kendall wanted to try to reignite things between Courtney and
Speaker 1: Scott before the whole Travis thing happened. So, like, it's
Speaker 1: clear that Scott is still wanting to be with Courtney.
Speaker 1: Am I right? Totally? I think if he had it
Speaker 1: his way, he would be back with Courtney two thousand percent,
Speaker 1: and he's just jealous and wishes he was. So can
Speaker 1: we get a little bit more context with their whole uh,
Speaker 1: with Scott ian Courtney's breakup, and then also Scott and
Speaker 1: Amelia's breakup? Like why was this most recent? I'm getting
Speaker 1: I'm getting to the stink eye from Kitlin as if
Speaker 1: I should know this totally, dude, My wife is yelling
Speaker 1: at me in the other room. I know that Scott
Speaker 1: and Corney be broken up for a long time, but
Speaker 1: what's Scott's most recent breakup? What's the story behind that?
Speaker 1: His most recent breakup before Elia? Like? Why are why
Speaker 1: are him and Amelia broken up? I mean, I just well,
Speaker 1: and then I do think their breakup may have something
Speaker 1: to do with Lisa, her mom. I don't think she
Speaker 1: really approved of the relationship, which I don't really think
Speaker 1: my mom would approve if I was dating someone that
Speaker 1: much older than me. But I think there were so
Speaker 1: many different factors that went into this breakup, and the
Speaker 1: whole Unice and Courtney Instagram situation was just one of
Speaker 1: the factors. Yeah, Lisa called their relationship between her daughter
Speaker 1: Amelia and Scott toxic, and she actually gave an awesome quote.
Speaker 1: She said, quote, why can't it be Harry Styles? Why
Speaker 1: the f is it's Scott Dissick, which I thought was
Speaker 1: pretty good because obviously every mother wants their daughter to
Speaker 1: date Harry Styles, right, but unfortunately Harry Styles is dating
Speaker 1: Olivia Wildish also just sent out the other day, which
Speaker 1: I also just find out Olivia munt and John Mulaney
Speaker 1: are having a child together. A lot going on in
Speaker 1: the whole celebrity world just does not stop and not
Speaker 1: stop up in you know, that's what keeps our podcast going. Really,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't understand why the whole I don't
Speaker 1: under like Lisa Renna just now decides that it's inappropriate
Speaker 1: for her young daughter to be dating this thirty year
Speaker 1: old man. It's like, well, they've always had this huge
Speaker 1: age gap, while all of a sudden thinks she's always
Speaker 1: been against Scott Distick dating for her daughter. I mean,
Speaker 1: what daughter would want to date? Like, what mom would
Speaker 1: want her daughter to date Scott Disick with his background
Speaker 1: probably not a lot. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I just feel like Lisa Renna, I
Speaker 1: know it is Kaylin's like favorite personality on Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. I think it really and so so
Speaker 1: she speaks highly over to the point where she like
Speaker 1: is entertained by her thoroughly. Um, It's just yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I don't want to overstep my
Speaker 1: boundaries by saying anything wrong, but I feel like a
Speaker 1: family like that kind of like is totally cool with
Speaker 1: dating someone for the sake of like being in the
Speaker 1: spotlight more or less, you know, and her daughter dating
Speaker 1: Scott Disick death only like kind of gets people talking
Speaker 1: about them a lot more. Which for someone like Lisa Renna,
Speaker 1: who has been you know, famous for a long time,
Speaker 1: is kind of like privy to and likes it and
Speaker 1: wants it for herself, which I imagine she probably wants
Speaker 1: for her kid too. It's just it's a little surprising
Speaker 1: for her to say, like, I don't want you to
Speaker 1: be dating this s guy, but you know, those people
Speaker 1: even more interested than just her daughter dating Scott Distac
Speaker 1: if she disapproves of it. Yeah, it's all a plan,
Speaker 1: Like I think it's all. There's all a business side
Speaker 1: to everything that these people do. I kind of respect it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. So I guess the question, Hannah,
Speaker 1: this is what it really comes down to. And I
Speaker 1: want to ask you, because you know the most about
Speaker 1: this subject. Do we want Scott Disac and Courtney Kardashian
Speaker 1: to get back together? I think so? They have three
Speaker 1: kids together. I just don't know if they ever would
Speaker 1: there's too much that has happened. But so you're not
Speaker 1: you're not shipping Travis Scott in Courtney, Travis Barker, Travis Parker.
Speaker 1: Who's Travis Scott? And why do I keep calling him?
Speaker 1: Travis Scott? Is who Kylie Jenner just had a baby
Speaker 1: with and they just announced that they're pregnant their second kid?
Speaker 1: Got it? Yes? Okay makes sense now, So just to clarify, Hannah,
Speaker 1: you don't want Courtney Kardashian to date machine Gun Kelly
Speaker 1: because you think she could do way better machine Gun Kelly.
Speaker 1: Was that a joke? Oh wait, Oh my gosh, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Okay, yes, these are all these answer blending
Speaker 1: to making Fox bro I knew that I was just
Speaker 1: that was that was deployed to take a little bit
Speaker 1: of the stress off of Jared because he messed up
Speaker 1: so royally, and that's it's It's definitely yeah. I want
Speaker 1: to hear Han his final thoughts. What are they? I mean,
Speaker 1: my final thoughts. I think why I'm so interested in
Speaker 1: this topic is because Lisa Rennet obviously didn't approve of
Speaker 1: a Melian Scott dating. And I don't know if I
Speaker 1: could ever date someone that someone in my family didn't
Speaker 1: approve of. That would just be a deal breaker for me.
Speaker 1: But I guess Lisa got her way in the end
Speaker 1: they broke up. I just would never be able to
Speaker 1: be with someone that my mom disapproved of. No, I agree,
Speaker 1: And that's why Scott just a ont to fit so
Speaker 1: well into the Kardashians, because he gets well, he gets
Speaker 1: along with with them so well. I hope Scott, Disick
Speaker 1: and Courtney get back together too. I've always liked Scott.
Speaker 1: I think he's crazy and over the top and obnoxious,
Speaker 1: but there's something very endearing about that human being that
Speaker 1: I appreciate, So I hope him and Courtney get back together.
Speaker 1: Because he's definitely not over it. He wants to be
Speaker 1: back with Courtney. That I believe. I will say too.
Speaker 1: I feel like, because I think that both of you,
Speaker 1: Bothna and Jared, you're very much like you would love
Speaker 1: your family's approval for the person you're dating. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: of course, you guys are very honored because they already
Speaker 1: do approve of the person that you're with. I have
Speaker 1: always said that, like, I don't need my family's approval,
Speaker 1: but I will say my brother, like a year ago,
Speaker 1: was like, hey, Dean, just by the way, Like it
Speaker 1: was just me and him talking. He's like, just by
Speaker 1: the way, Like I'm so proud of you finally like
Speaker 1: knocking it out of the park with Kaylin or something
Speaker 1: like that. And I was like, for someone that's never
Speaker 1: claimed to need his family's approval to get his family's
Speaker 1: approval meant a lot more to me than I thought
Speaker 1: it would. And so I fully agree like if your
Speaker 1: your family knows best in a lot of ways, like
Speaker 1: if they don't think this person is right for you,
Speaker 1: they're probably more right than you are because you've got
Speaker 1: blinders on for whatever reason. So those are my final
Speaker 1: thoughts on this topic. I wouldn't be surprised if we
Speaker 1: see some more headlines regarding Scott and Amelia, and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to discuss them with you guys, especially Hannah,
Speaker 1: because you are so invested in this ongoing process with them.
Speaker 1: But I guess we just kind of have to wait
Speaker 1: and see. I know I would like to the podcast.
Speaker 1: I apologize, guys. I'm just gonna go ahead and take
Speaker 1: the initiative here and say we're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: break because I'm a little overworked and I think we
Speaker 1: need to take a little bit of time off, so uh,
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll jump right back into it
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Speaker 1: Jared is on Cloud nine, not just because he's recording
Speaker 1: his favorite podcast ever, but also because his Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: which just sounds weird for me to even say one
Speaker 1: the season open against Dallas Cowboys a few days ago,
Speaker 1: and I just I think I can speak for everyone
Speaker 1: when I say football is back and we are stoked.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no reason for me to say these things.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say those things. So let's jump
Speaker 1: into a Q and A segment. Let me just say,
Speaker 1: it feels great to have Tom Brady back on my
Speaker 1: television screen. God, I love that man. The thing is,
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't go the whole episode without mentioning
Speaker 1: something because I know you're excited, and I'm I'm excited.
Speaker 1: To people who say you can't root for both the
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Buccaneers, watch me. I've been doing it
Speaker 1: for I say here already. You you're you're slowly bleeding
Speaker 1: into not just being a Ton Brady fan, but to
Speaker 1: being a full Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan. When you have
Speaker 1: you have two Bucks jerseys. Now you've got a Brady jersey,
Speaker 1: and you've got a ground jersey. Well, the Gronk jersey.
Speaker 1: I was at a charity event for a silent auction,
Speaker 1: and I always when it was for a golfing event,
Speaker 1: so you can relate where you go to these golfing
Speaker 1: tournaments and everything is free, and you're like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: going to donate obviously because it goes to a good cause,
Speaker 1: and they have these silent auctions. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna donate. It's nice to do it for the
Speaker 1: silent auction because then I get something really cool. And
Speaker 1: they had this Cronk jersey and it was signed by
Speaker 1: Gronk because they invited him there and you couldn't go,
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy crap, that is so cool.
Speaker 1: Like I've always said, I've only wanted to Tom Brady
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers jersey because that's what I really ultimately
Speaker 1: care about. But I was like, I do love Gronk.
Speaker 1: This jersey is badass. So I ended up getting it,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, all right, whatever, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love Gronk too, And honestly, I was watching the game.
Speaker 1: Long story short, I fully realized that I'm not a
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan because like even like the stadium,
Speaker 1: the flag, the emblem, I'm like, this is just it's
Speaker 1: so like Tom Brady is so much better than this.
Speaker 1: He deserves so much better. I'll give it one more
Speaker 1: super Bowl until you're wearing the Rande Barber Jersey, Awark
Speaker 1: Done Jersey and John Lynch Johnson Jersey. I talked about
Speaker 1: how we wanted Super Bowl two to John Gruden, my hero.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a freaking James Winston Jersey while he's
Speaker 1: still playing for the Sands, because that's how much of
Speaker 1: a bucks. Anyways, all that aside, I'm sorry for the
Speaker 1: tangent everyone. I know you guys don't care about our
Speaker 1: football fandom. Let's get to the Q and A because, um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you guys. It's currently ten
Speaker 1: pm here in Italy. I've had a lot of glasses
Speaker 1: of wine. I tend to put my foot in my
Speaker 1: mouth when I drink some wine, especially, so let's ask
Speaker 1: you some questions. Baby. The sooner we get to the
Speaker 1: Q and A, the more likely Jared and I are
Speaker 1: just say something. So I don't want to give d
Speaker 1: any time to sober up, So let's do the first question.
Speaker 1: So these were all asked on Instagram again, follow us
Speaker 1: please on help I suck at dating. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: we always post these type of things where we love
Speaker 1: you guys engaging with us, asking us questions that really, uh, well,
Speaker 1: you're just doing our work for us. Dean. First question,
Speaker 1: what is the best place you have traveled to? Well, dude,
Speaker 1: you so you've been to Positano before. I bet you.
Speaker 1: Positano and Lake Como are pretty similar. Lake Como was
Speaker 1: like pretty special, Like that's very, very beautiful out there.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because a lot of the people that
Speaker 1: ran into like we're just you know, Caitlin and I
Speaker 1: are just a couple on vacation. They're like, oh, are
Speaker 1: you guys like here for your wedding, for your honeymoon?
Speaker 1: Like no, like we're just here because we've always wanted
Speaker 1: to visit. And they're like, oh, you you got to
Speaker 1: come back, like for your wedding. It's like what definitely
Speaker 1: is like a place where a wedding would be spectacular.
Speaker 1: It just is like one of the most beautiful places.
Speaker 1: We were visited a little bias just because that was
Speaker 1: like three days ago. So that's probably like front of Mines,
Speaker 1: but the best place I've ever visited. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've always said Japan, and I probably will stick with
Speaker 1: that for now until I go somewhere now. But what's
Speaker 1: your favorite, Because you've been to quite a few places too.
Speaker 1: I would say Capri, uh was stunning, But yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been to Positano. I mean our honeymoon man was just spectacular.
Speaker 1: One of the most breasthtaking places I've ever been doing
Speaker 1: my entire life, and one of those times that you
Speaker 1: just experienced if if you're lucky once and I feel
Speaker 1: so lucky to been able to see it and go
Speaker 1: on there for our honeymoon. So I'm curious, now that
Speaker 1: you're in Italy and you're, you know, immersed in all
Speaker 1: this romantic environment and culture, would you do you feel
Speaker 1: more inclined to get married? Like, are you more open
Speaker 1: to the idea of possibly getting married now that you
Speaker 1: guys are kind of doing this extravagant adventure together. I Mean,
Speaker 1: it's funny because it's definitely a comba. This trip is
Speaker 1: a comba of like the things that she likes and
Speaker 1: things that like I've never been to these places before,
Speaker 1: minus the Dolomites, which I was with her originally, so
Speaker 1: it's like we're experiencing a lot of this for the
Speaker 1: first time together. Also, she is like in her comfort zone,
Speaker 1: you great food, great wine, like beautiful little towns with
Speaker 1: like cute little boutique stores. So it's like fun for
Speaker 1: her in that sense, but also really fun for me
Speaker 1: for experiencing it for the first time. And there's definitely
Speaker 1: like a romantic aspect to be behind it a thousand percent.
Speaker 1: You can't help but feel it, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean even in like we were so we started in
Speaker 1: Santorini too, and even in Santorini, it's like you're in
Speaker 1: these beautiful restaurants, like overlooking the coast, drinking wine, like
Speaker 1: eating delicious food, and like you can't help but be like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is amazing. I want this to
Speaker 1: be the rest of my life. And since I'm here,
Speaker 1: like I want you to be there in my life
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, which I had always
Speaker 1: I'd always thought those things. Obviously, Caitlin is like fiss
Speaker 1: pumping on the bed. Yeah, she's like, I freaking knew it.
Speaker 1: I handcuffed him. Badda bang bada, boom, my job is done. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's trapped on the bed um. But the marriage thing,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, yeah, I guess, I guess, but
Speaker 1: I guess you guys are totally getting married. She's gonna win.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll be winning by marrying her, obviously, but
Speaker 1: right she would be losing that one tenfold. We talked
Speaker 1: about it too, she because we were like, if we
Speaker 1: got married in Lake Como, obviously super major hypothetical. She's like,
Speaker 1: would you who would you invite? Like who would you bring?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, And it's like, I probably wouldn't bring anyone,
Speaker 1: you know, like my family. Maybe that's it. You guys
Speaker 1: have already talked about it, dude. That's why I was asking,
Speaker 1: because I was figuring, if you guys are in this
Speaker 1: beautiful setting, in this beautiful place, you've been together for
Speaker 1: what two years now? Over two years, like I can't
Speaker 1: many seven months, I cannot imagine the conversation hasn't come up.
Speaker 1: And so I was prying a little bit, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad I got an answer. Yeah, I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: help it when you're in these places, you know, when
Speaker 1: we're back home in Los Angeles to Las Vegas. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it at all, but when you're
Speaker 1: on the most romantic vacation in your life, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna come up every once in a while. It was
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I traveled all the way
Speaker 1: down to um Oh where did I confess my feelings
Speaker 1: to Ashley? The place is called Sugar Beach St. Bars, No,
Speaker 1: not St. Bars uh. St. Lucia, Holy crap. That's why
Speaker 1: I went down to St. Lucia because I knew when
Speaker 1: Ashley was dating this other guy. I was like, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be the same if we talk about
Speaker 1: it at a cafe in Los Angeles, Like, I gotta
Speaker 1: go down there in this beautiful scenic place and express
Speaker 1: my feelings to her because it'll be so much more
Speaker 1: of a moment than me doing it, you know, in Glendale.
Speaker 1: So I totally agree, Like, when you guys talk about
Speaker 1: it in like como, it has a certain more it's
Speaker 1: more impactful than if you're talking about it at home. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in addition to that too, So I think we've
Speaker 1: talked about in the podcast before. Kaitlin and I have
Speaker 1: this pipe dream where we want to live abroad for
Speaker 1: maybe like a year or two, and we've always known
Speaker 1: Japan was an option. South America like six months in
Speaker 1: each spot, and I think we've had Italy to the
Speaker 1: list as well. And I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 1: vacationing places and then deciding to live there because I
Speaker 1: think you kind of like get the wrong perception of
Speaker 1: those places. But man, Italy is just so freaking cool.
Speaker 1: Italy is like one of the coolest countries ever. You
Speaker 1: can get like a delicious spaghetti dinner, the best glass
Speaker 1: of one you've ever had for like twelve buck like
Speaker 1: every single day for the rest of your life, and
Speaker 1: just like walk around these like beautiful cobblestone streets and
Speaker 1: be perfectly happy with how everything is going. It just
Speaker 1: is like one of those I don't know. Italy is
Speaker 1: definitely one of those places where you can get like
Speaker 1: like time just seeps away, you get sucked into it,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's like ten years
Speaker 1: later and you're like, oh my gosh, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: an Italian person now. Totally. I think it is the
Speaker 1: second most beautiful place I've ever been. The first is
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, of course. Uh So, the next question I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you before we ask me A question
Speaker 1: is did Kalin love traveling as much as you did
Speaker 1: when you first started dating or is this something that
Speaker 1: has grown over time from being with you. Well, I
Speaker 1: still don't think she enjoys as much as I do.
Speaker 1: She claims too, and I think she does think that
Speaker 1: she does. But she as much of a traveler as
Speaker 1: she is. She's definitely a bit of a homebody. You know.
Speaker 1: She loves her space, she loves her pride like privacy
Speaker 1: and seclusion. She's an introvert, which is great. Um, and
Speaker 1: she does love traveling, but uh, I mean I like
Speaker 1: to think that I like it more and she probably
Speaker 1: would beg the different too. She's actually shaking her head
Speaker 1: on the bed right now, um, which is understandable. I
Speaker 1: I think that I had the opportunity to travel a
Speaker 1: lot more before we met. You know, you go on
Speaker 1: the show, you start having the opportunity to make money
Speaker 1: through like social media, and you don't have to work
Speaker 1: your nine to five jobs. You have more time, you
Speaker 1: have more money, Like, what are you gonna do with that?
Speaker 1: You're gonna travel? Um? If you're if? You know, some
Speaker 1: people don't, but like obviously like in my case, I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta travel, so I I had like
Speaker 1: maybe like a year or two under my belt before
Speaker 1: we even started dating, and she didn't have quite the
Speaker 1: same amount of time. So she um loves it, no
Speaker 1: questions asked. But I would always say that I like
Speaker 1: it more. And like I said, I'm sure she would disagree.
Speaker 1: I mean, you did live in a van and you
Speaker 1: still do at times, so I'd argue you like traveling more.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, hey, I'm gonna find this Q and A
Speaker 1: section real quick on my rundown and ask you some
Speaker 1: questions here because I feel a little not blindsided, but
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm an pplies in the conversation right now.
Speaker 1: So Jared, I gotta ask, when it comes to being
Speaker 1: a dad, what are you most terrified about? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: most terrified. I think I'm most terrified of not living
Speaker 1: up to expectations. Uh. My my dad is uh the greatest.
Speaker 1: You know what he's done for me, for my sister,
Speaker 1: from my mom. He's not perfect, but I mean the
Speaker 1: level of sacrifice that he's given for us is I
Speaker 1: mean no words for me, honestly, because the amount of
Speaker 1: love that I feel from him and my mom too.
Speaker 1: But if we're just speaking as like a dad to
Speaker 1: dad type of thing. Now that I'm becoming a dad,
Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm most nervous about, is that
Speaker 1: will I be willing to make those type of sacrifices
Speaker 1: that He's made for us for my future son. And
Speaker 1: I think that makes me most nervous because now it's different.
Speaker 1: You know, I care for Ashley a lot. I do
Speaker 1: so much for her, but she does so much for
Speaker 1: me as well, and she's a full grown adults, so
Speaker 1: there's only so much that I do for her, you
Speaker 1: know when you talking about a kid, you know, waking
Speaker 1: up every hour on the hour, to make sure that
Speaker 1: they're okay, make sure they're not crying in the early stages,
Speaker 1: to see them grow, and make sure they're feeding. Like,
Speaker 1: am I gonna, Like I'm nervous about you know what
Speaker 1: if I get angry one day, you know, not that
Speaker 1: anything would happen, but like, I don't ever want to
Speaker 1: raise my voice or get frustrated with my son, and
Speaker 1: I'm nervous about those moments. I think most of all.
Speaker 1: Have you talked to your father about being a dad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit. We had a really very special moment
Speaker 1: when I first told him that Ashley was pregnant and
Speaker 1: we had to go in the house for something, and
Speaker 1: then he was walking out with me, and like I
Speaker 1: could tell that he was kind of choked up a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's such a softie, and he said, uh,
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, I just know that the man
Speaker 1: you are and who you've grown up to be and
Speaker 1: me and he said, I know you're going to be
Speaker 1: a great dad. And I said, thanks, Dad, So it
Speaker 1: was really nice that you've given you any advice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it'll happen obvious you like once
Speaker 1: a little baby Dean pops out, but like anything you know,
Speaker 1: broad Strokes purposes, Uh, Deanie Baby's Haven pops out in February. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to give me a lot more
Speaker 1: advice right now. It's more of he you know, he
Speaker 1: just tries to help out. He always tells me, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: if Ashley needs anything, you need anything, you just let
Speaker 1: me know. I'll be there. But uh, no, like real
Speaker 1: advice just yet. And I'm sure the thing is too
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, I mean, I can't speak for your
Speaker 1: own father, but I'm sure most parents would say, like
Speaker 1: when they have their kids and they're in the same
Speaker 1: boat as you, Like, they have no idea what the
Speaker 1: heck they're doing, what's going on, what they're gonna be
Speaker 1: like with what And then at the end of the
Speaker 1: day too, it's like when you're when you're growing up,
Speaker 1: like you think your father and your mom are like
Speaker 1: the best people in the whole world. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I think everyone kind of goes into it with the
Speaker 1: mindset that they have no idea what they're doing, and
Speaker 1: then they end up doing a great job because they
Speaker 1: as long as they love them, you know, to the
Speaker 1: best of their ability, that's the most important thing. I think.
Speaker 1: So I agree, that's my advice to you, Jared. You know,
Speaker 1: thanks and I appreciate. Alright, next question for you, Jared.
Speaker 1: So you asked me tun or out, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you tune or out. So, yeah, they're like we said
Speaker 1: at the top of this segment, there's no no question
Speaker 1: that you're a big football fan. You lose to me
Speaker 1: in fantasy football every single year. First of all, I
Speaker 1: won the fantasy football league last year, which I was
Speaker 1: so excited about. Hell yeah, dude, I had I played
Speaker 1: Tanner and in the championship, and uh, I had Stefan
Speaker 1: Daggs go on Monday Night Football and he went all
Speaker 1: for three touchdowns on end up winning, and it was
Speaker 1: that's gotta be so sad, especially being you, being Tanner
Speaker 1: of all people, has to be the most satisfying. So
Speaker 1: being as big with a fan of football specifically as
Speaker 1: you are, are you gonna let a little baby Dean
Speaker 1: play football when he's older than that if he wants to,
Speaker 1: I'm in. I know a lot of people are nervous
Speaker 1: about having their kids playing contact sports, specifically football and
Speaker 1: all the CT and concussion uh information that has come
Speaker 1: out over the past you know, however many years. But
Speaker 1: the game is also safer now than it's ever been.
Speaker 1: It's only gonna get safer because they want kids to
Speaker 1: continue playing football, which means that they're gonna uh, they
Speaker 1: want to reduce injury, reduce any type of brain injuries,
Speaker 1: which has you know, plagued the game a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I I would absolutely let him play. My goal
Speaker 1: is for him to be a place kicker, because here's
Speaker 1: the thing, dude. First of all, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: Newing Patriots of all time is Adam veninary because as
Speaker 1: a kicker, you have the opportunity to have the game
Speaker 1: rest on your foot and that is so cool. So, like,
Speaker 1: you are such a valuable part of the team. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, punters are a great part of the
Speaker 1: team as well, But like there's no like huge pressure punt,
Speaker 1: but there are pressure kicks, and I want my son
Speaker 1: to have those pressure kicks. Plus, as a kicker, you know,
Speaker 1: you have a long career, you don't get hit. It's
Speaker 1: a really good gig. So that's my goal. I want
Speaker 1: my kid to be a kicker in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: gotta say that. On the flip side of that, you
Speaker 1: look at someone like Cody Parky, you know you have
Speaker 1: a couple of misses, your career can tail has been
Speaker 1: real quickly. I mean, if he double donks like Cody Parker,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this own the kid right right right. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: I I'm kind of in the same boat as you.
Speaker 1: If I ever had a kid, um, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I would like ever push him away from playing football,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I'd have an issue with it.
Speaker 1: So I mean I agree with where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: It's like, if he wants to absolutely let him try
Speaker 1: it out, get knocked around a little bit, and then
Speaker 1: realized it's not for him. I don't think so I played.
Speaker 1: I played football all through high school. I don't think
Speaker 1: if I was then only child, I don't think I
Speaker 1: would have played football in high school. I was like scrawny.
Speaker 1: I didn't really like it all that much. The only
Speaker 1: reason I really played it was because both my older
Speaker 1: brothers were like all state, like superhuman athletes in high school,
Speaker 1: and so I felt like I had to like carry
Speaker 1: on the lineage did you did you go through a
Speaker 1: lake girls spurt? Because I mean, you're six too, aren't you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I've always been like pretty scrawny, just
Speaker 1: kind of like wormy and wiry, especially in high school
Speaker 1: like that. And I just my biggest uh and you're
Speaker 1: not going to be shocked to hear this at all,
Speaker 1: My biggest vice in life is just like I just
Speaker 1: don't really ever try super hard, Like I don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't care not to put on I don't put
Speaker 1: a hundred percent effort into like anything I do. And
Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that I even have to
Speaker 1: say that, because it's like that's the most embarrassing trade.
Speaker 1: I think that I possess is I just don't care
Speaker 1: enough about anything to really try hard. Well, I would
Speaker 1: disagree with you in one aspect because I feel like
Speaker 1: you try very hard. With Kalen. Oh well, I'm sure
Speaker 1: she would probably say something different. No, the thing that
Speaker 1: the great thing about Kalin is I don't have to
Speaker 1: try hard. It just comes naturally. Um. I think, yeah, thanks. Um.
Speaker 1: So when it came to football, football is like you know,
Speaker 1: you try shoot, you try a percent effort for ten seconds,
Speaker 1: and then you take a thirty second break, and you
Speaker 1: try a d ten percent for ten seconds, take a
Speaker 1: thirty second break, and over those ten second try hard periods.
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, like I don't care, Like
Speaker 1: I don't need to block you. You can just kind
Speaker 1: of go ahead if you want to. Or like I
Speaker 1: was like I was like running around like wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I was like I would like runn Aro out and
Speaker 1: I'd be like I just like jogging down the side quarterback.
Speaker 1: Must I hated you, oh absolutely. And we were the
Speaker 1: best friends too in high school, which is a funny
Speaker 1: thing too. And I would often be like Dylan, why
Speaker 1: don't you ever throw me the ball? Do you like
Speaker 1: we're boys, and he goes, Dude, you gotta try. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's probably not gonna have a fair point.
Speaker 1: Never mind, don't throw me the ball. Yeah. Well, we're
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Speaker 1: want to read this email for us? Of course? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to read an email from a nonymous, oh
Speaker 1: anonymous our friend Nick Vile. Thank you very much. This
Speaker 1: reads I'm twenty two years old and need advice somehow
Speaker 1: to handle my best friend and her boyfriend, who are
Speaker 1: both twenty two as well. They have been off again
Speaker 1: and on again, and every time they break up, she
Speaker 1: comes to me and always ends up saying that she
Speaker 1: never loved him and that he means nothing to her.
Speaker 1: Regardless of what she keeps telling me, after they break up,
Speaker 1: they always get back together. I'm frustrated that she keeps
Speaker 1: choosing her relationship with her piece of crap boyfriend over me,
Speaker 1: but then once they break up, I'm enough again. Why
Speaker 1: would you go back to him after he cheats multiple times?
Speaker 1: How do I go about the situation? Please help? This
Speaker 1: might be Amelia's best friend undercover like uh falsely giving
Speaker 1: ages to make it seem more you know, throw us
Speaker 1: off the set totally. She already knows that her and
Speaker 1: uh dissick are going to get back together exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: on again, off again. You know we're not accusing this
Speaker 1: sack of cheating obviously. I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: personally don't know, but possible. Um, how do I go
Speaker 1: about this situation? Is what Anonymous would like to know. So, Jared,
Speaker 1: I feel like you probably have the best advice rations.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I have had friends actually lose
Speaker 1: friendships over stuff like this. Because we had a friend
Speaker 1: that was dating this guy that we all knew was
Speaker 1: a fine guy, but someone who was not ready to
Speaker 1: settle down. We used to see him all the time
Speaker 1: at bars by himself, and not just like dive bars,
Speaker 1: but like bars where guys go to pick up chicks,
Speaker 1: you know, and he'd always be dressed nicely and and
Speaker 1: look good, and it's like, bro, you're obviously here to
Speaker 1: pick up a girl. And then sometimes we catch him
Speaker 1: in a lie. We'd see him out and our friend.
Speaker 1: We text our friend and we'd be like, hey, your
Speaker 1: boys out, and she'd be like, oh, you know, we'd
Speaker 1: find out later that he said he was, you know,
Speaker 1: at his grandmother's or whatever. So anyway, so they kept
Speaker 1: going back and forth, and then one time, you know,
Speaker 1: even though we were like, you know, trying to be
Speaker 1: supportive but also say that we think he's bad news.
Speaker 1: One time, our friend like laid it on the line.
Speaker 1: It was like, this guy sucks and you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: with him, and they got into a huge fight over
Speaker 1: it and they ended up not being friends anymore, which
Speaker 1: is so sad. And then fast forward like a couple
Speaker 1: of years later, you know, our friend was no longer
Speaker 1: with this guy because of course he cheated and of
Speaker 1: course he was bad news. But it kind of ruined
Speaker 1: a friendship a little bit, a friendship that really was
Speaker 1: never rekindled. And so it's hard. This is delicate ground
Speaker 1: you're walking on. I don't know what the right thing
Speaker 1: is to do. I think the only thing you can
Speaker 1: do is to continue trying to toy that line between
Speaker 1: letting your friend know that you think he's bad news
Speaker 1: and there's red flags while also not you know, like
Speaker 1: being as blunt as my friend was. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Yeah, that's uh, I mean, that's great advice.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with everything you're saying. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: put myself in the shoes of the boyfriend in this case,
Speaker 1: because I've definitely cheated in the past when I was
Speaker 1: much younger than I am now because I'm an ancient
Speaker 1: human being at this point. But I kind of think
Speaker 1: back to like when I was nineteen and I she
Speaker 1: did with my girlfriend, and how none of my friends
Speaker 1: ever really like nothing they needed to step up, But
Speaker 1: none of them ever like stepped up and was like, Dean,
Speaker 1: what you did was like messed up. You know, no
Speaker 1: one ever like kind of no one help me accountable,
Speaker 1: aside from my girlfriend of course, like she dumped me,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. I was pissed, not pissed, but
Speaker 1: like sad, you know, despondent whatever. But none of my
Speaker 1: friends ever were like, hey, that wasn't cool of you
Speaker 1: to do, which I in my kindset, I kind of
Speaker 1: wish my friends like stepped up and they're like teing,
Speaker 1: like get your crap together, you know, stop getting wasted
Speaker 1: and going to parties and trying to make out with girls,
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of messed up. And I mean if
Speaker 1: they I think if that happened, I think that my
Speaker 1: relationship life would have turned around a little earlier. And
Speaker 1: I it's funny to say, but I don't think this
Speaker 1: podcast ever would have sprung up if that were the case.
Speaker 1: Not to say that, Like, you know, I stuck at
Speaker 1: dating because none of my friends ever stepped up and
Speaker 1: said anything to me. But I do think that they're
Speaker 1: especially at the age of twenty two, like you are
Speaker 1: super impressionable. You have a lot to learn. Nobody likes
Speaker 1: you when you're twenty two, right, listen to listen to Swift.
Speaker 1: I think that's blank one A two, Right, Nobody likes
Speaker 1: you when you're twenty three. Yeah, what's the song that
Speaker 1: tell our Swiss things about age? I think it's like fifteen. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that's that's beyond the point. My point is twenty two
Speaker 1: is a young enough age to where you're allowed to
Speaker 1: make mistakes, but you're not. You shouldn't be villainized for
Speaker 1: calling your friends out for making those mistakes, especially like
Speaker 1: if you have the maturity to call them out for them.
Speaker 1: Like I think one of the reasons that of my
Speaker 1: friends called me out and nor what I call my
Speaker 1: friends out for it was because we all lacked the maturity.
Speaker 1: So like if we had maybe like a mature friend
Speaker 1: or two would be like, hey, like this isn't right.
Speaker 1: We just got word from rally that it was t
Speaker 1: Swift sings fifteen, so I was only seven years off.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, Dean, is this going
Speaker 1: to sound from there? Oh? I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but I'm feeling in twenty two that was terrible. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. Yes, Okay, thank you, thank you, Jared.
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't that far off. Okay, I appreciate that. Two.
Speaker 1: And hey, I'm a blink. I'm a big blank win
Speaker 1: a too fan, So I am a little bumped. I
Speaker 1: missed that reference. But anyways, Um, there's no shame in
Speaker 1: calling your friends out for that. I I personally like
Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad at you for separating yourself from your
Speaker 1: friends that are making those bad decisions, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like they're probably gonna make
Speaker 1: those bad decisions towards your friendship at some point earlier.
Speaker 1: So you have every right to say something. And then
Speaker 1: if the need to separate yourselves as friends comes about,
Speaker 1: I think that's totally fine. Here's a question I have
Speaker 1: for you. So Anonymous is emailing us about her friend.
Speaker 1: Do you think Anonymous should go to the boyfriend and say, listen,
Speaker 1: I love my friend. You can't keep doing this to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really good question. I think she should go
Speaker 1: to their friend first, and I mean, gosh, okay. So
Speaker 1: so my story with that same situation is when I
Speaker 1: was nineteen, already shared it cheated on my girlfriend. I
Speaker 1: regret it obviously deeply to this day. Um. I remember
Speaker 1: I was at a house party in college as a
Speaker 1: sophomore and my ex girlfriend at the times friend came
Speaker 1: up to me and she was like, Dean, like you
Speaker 1: you and I can't be friends. I know what you did,
Speaker 1: Like this is kind of messed up and in my
Speaker 1: in my head, and I said it out loud to her.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's totally understandable, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to put you in an awkward position, like you
Speaker 1: have to back your friend more than anything. I don't
Speaker 1: think that that conversation had any effect on me because
Speaker 1: I already knew I was in the wrong in that case.
Speaker 1: But I think that what this anonymous person should do,
Speaker 1: let's go to her friend first, and then like maybe
Speaker 1: I guess that she sees the boyfriend out happens stantley
Speaker 1: say something, But I don't think she needs to go
Speaker 1: out her out of her way to say anything like
Speaker 1: a glass of water in this dude's face. No, don't
Speaker 1: do that. Not even that. Just be like you're you're
Speaker 1: a dude, you suck like, get out of our lives.
Speaker 1: We don't need you here. I don't what do you think.
Speaker 1: I don't think she should do that because then I
Speaker 1: think it will alienate the friend. I agree. I think
Speaker 1: he's just talked to the friend and be like, listen,
Speaker 1: I just you can date him. Of course, it's your choice.
Speaker 1: I will always support you and always be your friend,
Speaker 1: but as your friend, I also have to tell you
Speaker 1: I see these red flags. You know, I've seen relationships
Speaker 1: like this before. They always fail. Um, he's addict to you.
Speaker 1: You deserve so much better. Um. But then also let
Speaker 1: her know that you're her friend and you're going to
Speaker 1: support her. Don't give her like an ultimate him, you
Speaker 1: know where it's like, hey, it's either him or us,
Speaker 1: because then of course she's going to choose him. But
Speaker 1: if you show support and you're there for her, and
Speaker 1: you try to let her know that I think this
Speaker 1: guy is bad news for you. But if you need
Speaker 1: to figure this out, then I'll still be there for you.
Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to go about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, but also don't be too slow to pull
Speaker 1: yourself away from the friendship, you know, like, yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: don't give the ultimatum. But if things continue to escalate
Speaker 1: and stay the same or get worse, like, definitely just
Speaker 1: pull out of the friendship. Oh that's so tough one,
Speaker 1: and you're losing a friend over this, Like then this
Speaker 1: guy won you know, the jerk one. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you actually make a really good point. I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they if they're really your friends, stick with them,
Speaker 1: be there for him. I don't know, you make a
Speaker 1: lot of good points. It's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 1: I've really thought of. I think you should be there
Speaker 1: for them, but you should also be honest with them.
Speaker 1: I think those two things are not mutually exclusive, Like
Speaker 1: you can do both. You can say, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: like this guy, but if you are in love with him,
Speaker 1: then I'll go with the program. But I just hope
Speaker 1: that he doesn't, you know, you know, screw you over.
Speaker 1: It's hard because a lot of the stuff that I
Speaker 1: ever can talk about are like things that I can
Speaker 1: draw from experience. I've never had a good friend have
Speaker 1: a crappy partner, So it's like I can't I can't
Speaker 1: put myself in those shoes. So I think that your
Speaker 1: advice is probably better in this case is because you
Speaker 1: can empathize with people better and be it sounds like
Speaker 1: you had an experience similar to kind of what they're
Speaker 1: going what they're going on. So, Anonymous, if you're listening
Speaker 1: to this, which we hope you are, thank you for
Speaker 1: emailing us, take Jared's advice, but also sprinkle a little
Speaker 1: bit of my advice on to it as well, because
Speaker 1: I might be an idiot, but sometimes you throw enough
Speaker 1: crap at the wall, eventually something's bound to steak. So
Speaker 1: Dean's advice is like the grated cheese that the surfer
Speaker 1: brings over and he's like, would you like more cheese?
Speaker 1: And you're like, of course, just a little sprinkle on
Speaker 1: top because I need it right, And then you take
Speaker 1: the handful of cheese that was just sprinkled on and
Speaker 1: throw it on the floor because you got way too
Speaker 1: much cheese, way too much. Dean advice can lead to
Speaker 1: a stomach ache. We all know that. Um that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I think for this week's episode, right, Jared,
Speaker 1: you want to answer any more emails or do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about anything else before you get added
Speaker 1: I think we're good. I think that means we're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to come back next week and hopefully suck
Speaker 1: a little bit less. That's not our exit, though. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to say it back to you, Dean. That
Speaker 1: was a little premature. That's what I love. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Um yeah, I do
Speaker 1: want to say before we leave, I would like to
Speaker 1: apologize for my tardiness. Again. I tried my hardest dinner.
Speaker 1: It was a romantic time and that's what all this
Speaker 1: that's what this podcast is all about. You know, you're
Speaker 1: trying not to suck at dating anymore, and if you
Speaker 1: left the dinner early, you would continue sucking. We're working
Speaker 1: on not sucking anymore. You did the right thing. Caitlin
Speaker 1: has really leaned into this whole help I suck thing.
Speaker 1: She goes yesterday, for instance, when I you know, when
Speaker 1: she looked up from her phone and it was like
Speaker 1: upset that I was getting too close to the car,
Speaker 1: she goes help by suck at driving. And today, right
Speaker 1: before we had dinner, she goes help by suck at
Speaker 1: podcasting and I go, hey, that's my thing, Okay, back
Speaker 1: off seal it. But what she doesn't know is maybe
Speaker 1: next week we're gonna suck just a little bit less.
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