WEBVTT - Hour 2 - NFL Rule Changes Coming, Ray Allen

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody. One

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<v Speaker 1>out of every six hundred thousand brackets predicted the Final

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<v Speaker 1>four correctly in the Man Bracket Challenge game. One of

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<v Speaker 1>those people will join us a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 1>Setan O'Connor's wife, Aaron, has all four of the final

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<v Speaker 1>four teams. And it's not one of those where you

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<v Speaker 1>fill out, you know, ten different brackets. She filled out one,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had her philosophy of why she picked these teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Although j Billis said we shouldn't be surprised of the

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<v Speaker 1>final four, I think we should be shocked, not surprised. Yukon,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem the other three. Man, you could be a

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<v Speaker 1>student of college basketball. You could be a PhD in

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball. You don't have those teams going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Final four, but Florida Atlantic, Connecticut, San Diego State, Miami

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<v Speaker 1>in the final four. Great eight seven seven three D

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Radio and three hundred ninety cities around America

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<v Speaker 1>to carry this program. Ray Allen, the former Yukon Great,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll let him take a victory lap. Ray Ray will

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<v Speaker 1>join is coming up here in a little bit. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James off the bench in return for the Lakers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Lebron was going to need surgery on this foot,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was out longer because we thought that it

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<v Speaker 1>was According to him, he rolled it on somebody's shoe

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, no, you didn't, And I think there

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he needs surgery. He said two doctors told him

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<v Speaker 1>to get surgery, but he said that he went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Lebron James of feet and decided that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to play. I don't know what that means,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lebron James of feet. The doctor is the Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 1>If well, what were the other two guys? Were they?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Patrick Beverley of feet. Yes, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>good serad he didn't go to college. Did he get

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<v Speaker 1>a degree? Is just a natural phenom. The University of

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron he graduated. You know, Suma kum lade a feat

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<v Speaker 1>now oh a feet Gnome. I like that? Thanks, yes, Seaton, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did hear somebody say, shouldn't you have gone to

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<v Speaker 1>the Michael Jordan? I'd have gone back sooner and Michael

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael broke his foot and came back and played

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven seven three d P show operator Tyler's standing

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk to some college basketball best and worst

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekend. We'll get to more of your phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls coming up. By the way, the NFL is holding

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<v Speaker 1>meetings right now Competition Committee, and they want to do

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<v Speaker 1>their best to do away with the kickoff, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the punt. There's a real push because the punt injuries

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<v Speaker 1>and also penalties. And I'm reading some things from the

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<v Speaker 1>meetings so far that they this is a proposal once

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<v Speaker 1>again having touchbacks on punts returned to the twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard line, not the twenty in part to encourage teams

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<v Speaker 1>with a fourth down near midfield to go for it

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<v Speaker 1>instead of punting it away. Also, they want to do

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<v Speaker 1>their best to get rid of the kickoff. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do this for a few years now. And

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<v Speaker 1>I went back, had our stats guy, John Tuvey, go back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, when did they change the kickoff? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was twenty eleven. Used to be sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the kickoffs fourteen percent, twelve percent those were

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<v Speaker 1>not returned. Now I'm looking at twenty twenty two, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one percent not returned, fifty eight percent, sixty two percent,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two percent, sixty two percent, fifty eight percent, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent. That's descending order here of going back to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven. You can't get rid of the kickoff because

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<v Speaker 1>of the on side kick. If you outlaw the on

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<v Speaker 1>side kick, then you don't have to have a kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>You would start the game at the twenty five yard

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<v Speaker 1>line and the NFL would probably be happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But these numbers, that's why they moved it up five yards.

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<v Speaker 1>They want it through the end zone or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a fair catch. Now it goes out

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<v Speaker 1>to the twenty five yard line. But they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, they're going to keep the tush push.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagles will love this. It looks like they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it. The NFL has looked at this and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rather than complain about it, maybe teams should

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<v Speaker 1>protect practice perfecting the sneak just like the Eagles do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that they I was told that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to address it. I thought that that they might

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<v Speaker 1>outlaw it. But but it's because they're always talking about, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody could get hurt. But I don't know how dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback sneak is unless you're a defensive lineman. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the quarterback. It's actually the defensive lineman who get

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<v Speaker 1>caught in the undertow there where they just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bulldoze them. But now the Eagles do it great. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else does it like that. I mean, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great quarterback sneakers of all time is Tom Brady, but

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<v Speaker 1>not like this, because this is where you just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of line up in that power wedge and then just

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<v Speaker 1>push your way forward. Because Jalen Hurts isn't a big quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo does this a little bit with Josh Allen. But

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<v Speaker 1>now they're saying, hey, if you can't beat them, join them.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure it out. Yeah, yeah, that should be the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been so weak to take away a

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<v Speaker 1>play because somebody's too good at it. Yeah, paint. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the NFL kept it or is going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it because they're like, well, you know what, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a little dangerous or could be dangerous, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still better than punting on fourth down. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>have more people going for a fourth down, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>more dramatic sport. Well, they're not even going for it

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily on fourth down. If it's third and two, third

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<v Speaker 1>and three. I mean, that's that's a great play. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling how many times do you have a sport

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<v Speaker 1>a play where I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do and you can't stomp it. And there's certain players,

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<v Speaker 1>certain you know, aspects of certain games where you go here,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes and I can't do anything about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take it away. I liked it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was entertained by it. But I don't you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL is so conscious about injuries that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>take away punts, you want to take away kickoffs. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing. It feels like, just let him play football.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some of this is just football, Like I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out smarting you, and we don't give credit to the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that come up with innovations. I'm surprised they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. You know that Tampa two. You guys can't

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<v Speaker 1>play the Tampa two. Why not? Well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems like nobody else is doing it. Well

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<v Speaker 1>they will. Hey, the West Coast offense, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys doing? We'll go back to the forward pass? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? We run the football? You can't

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<v Speaker 1>do You're ruining the sport and forward pass. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>about the quarterbacks he played, Each team has a designated pusher,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not the most friendly term, but like one guy

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<v Speaker 1>in each team who is allowed to push the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and no one else is allowed. If he's sometimes somehow

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<v Speaker 1>rolls an ankle, he's out. You're oh, well, we're down

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<v Speaker 1>a pusher. We have no one to push the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Bob Sledding, right. I like that role. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of reminds me of the Bears and Refrigerator Perry.

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<v Speaker 1>They lined him up on the goal line and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, good luck tackling this guy. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the owners And if you're wondering about the competition committee,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ten people on the competition Committee, owners, team executives,

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<v Speaker 1>general managers, and head coaches, and then they look at

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<v Speaker 1>each year after the season and then they'll submit proposals

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<v Speaker 1>to owners for review with the owners meeting. You had

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<v Speaker 1>the competition committee meeting and submitted eight potential rule changes

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<v Speaker 1>to be voted upon special teams. Really, that's what it's

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the punt and the kickoff and how

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<v Speaker 1>do you take it out of the game. Yes, Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a new poll for the room. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one where you have to be honest, like double secret,

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. In the NFL, I would like more kickoffs returned.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the air quotes danger the play, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>proven to be a more dangerous play, you still like

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<v Speaker 1>it or I like that the NFL is to emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>the play over the years to help player safety. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fine with most touchback. I would like to have kickoffs returned, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And why why wouldn't they give that to the fans?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm concerned about my entertainment. If you play

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<v Speaker 1>the game, you're already taking on the risk of playing

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<v Speaker 1>the game. It's not like where you go. Damn, I

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<v Speaker 1>could get hurt here. We know that, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to seek kickoffs return. Imagine the players who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Devin Hester would not have a career, or he

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<v Speaker 1>would be a wide receiver. He would he would not

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<v Speaker 1>Dion Sanders with punt returns. You know these guys who

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<v Speaker 1>made a name for themselves as great kick returners. Yes, Ton,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have a team with a week offense late

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<v Speaker 1>in the game and the only shot they have is

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<v Speaker 1>to have a great runback to put them in good

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<v Speaker 1>field position. And it comes down to maybe they have

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<v Speaker 1>that great special teams play that can keep him in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I wondered if you had a philosophy and

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<v Speaker 1>your team just said, we're running every kickback unless it

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<v Speaker 1>goes out of the end zone, every single one, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take it back. Yeah, Mark, Could you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being like a back lineback or a backup running back

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<v Speaker 1>and the only time you have a chance to make

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<v Speaker 1>an impact on the game is being a special teams guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you hear like welcome to the jungle right before

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<v Speaker 1>the opening kickoff, and you're ready. You're jumping up and

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<v Speaker 1>down and touch back. Yeah, I know it is, but

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the only way to open up the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're gonna kick off this game. You can't go

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome. We're gonna put the ball on the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five yard line. And I think the NFL would love

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<v Speaker 1>that if you just said, hey, we started the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five yard line. Yeah, see, like the coin flip and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's it. Yeah, okay, you gotta start. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>No kickoff because it is a buzz kill when you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna all right, man, here we go, here we go

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<v Speaker 1>and touch back out of the end zone. And these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are so good now and there's you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>moved it up five yards. Their legs are so powerful. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're so powerful, and they kick it out of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. Yes, boone, Okay, this is could be a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible idea. What if a kickoff return for a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>where we're ten points good? Incentivize the play, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to. They don't want your returning the kick.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fans do. I know, but they don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to incentivize. It's funny. The players want

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<v Speaker 1>to because they want to make a name. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>like a backup linebacker. You want to, you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>some plays, knock a ball loose. Well, who's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>with the Patriots Slater? I mean, Matthew Slater will probably

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<v Speaker 1>be a borderline Hall of Famer. Yeah. Uh, Steve Tasker's

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<v Speaker 1>name always comes up for the Hall of Fame. It's

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<v Speaker 1>due because of special teams. Who wantsn't like Steve Dias

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<v Speaker 1>I think played for the Giants. He was a special

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<v Speaker 1>teams guy. Yes, Ton, just kind of boring because then

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<v Speaker 1>it's if maybe it's easy for the broadcast because they

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<v Speaker 1>have an extra few sexs. Ago, let's meet the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>offense as they come jogging out after the air after

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<v Speaker 1>it goes into the end zone and you get to

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<v Speaker 1>put up other players names or whatever. It's just really

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<v Speaker 1>a deflating way to start it. Getting to oay, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Ton, all right? Uh, Trent and Virginia leads us off. Hey, DP,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have an interesting tidbit about this year's Final four. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the second lowest seeding in the Final four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we brought that up last hour. Yeah, but the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that the highest seed remaining in twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>was Yukon. Same this year, and it's twenty eleven. Yukon

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<v Speaker 1>won it all, so let's see if they can do

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<v Speaker 1>it again this year. Okay, yeah, Yukon was a four.

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<v Speaker 1>This year. You go back to twenty eleven, Yukon was

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<v Speaker 1>a three, Kentucky four, Butler was an eight, and VCU

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<v Speaker 1>with shock as Smart was in eleven. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>four or five, five and nine Florida Atlantic as a nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris in Wisconsin joins us. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind? Hey, DP,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for taking my call? Six foot six, one ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>If I stick my tongue out, I look like a zipper.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm wondering about breaking right. I got my bracket.

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<v Speaker 1>I made six out of eight going into the Elite eight,

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<v Speaker 1>only missing Houston and Marquette, and now I got two

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<v Speaker 1>out of the four, got San Diego State and Yukon,

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel pretty good about that. However, I have

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<v Speaker 1>three other brackets. They were Homer brackets. I had Marquette winning.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question is do I get bragging rights because

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<v Speaker 1>I got one out of you know, one decent bracket

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<v Speaker 1>out of four that's really good. No, No, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a one bracket. That's your brag bracket. It's like having

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<v Speaker 1>ten fantasy teams and then all of a sudden, you say,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on my fantasy team. He's on my fantasy team,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go, how many fantasy teams? I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>ten leagues? Pretty much every I would hate doing that

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<v Speaker 1>because you would go into a game rooting four and

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<v Speaker 1>against your player. Yeah, Paul, you know, as bothered as

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<v Speaker 1>I am by people when they bring up their fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>football team, I'm not so bothered when people bring up

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<v Speaker 1>their bracket. It's kind of I guess it's a shorter window.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a three week bragging. You pull out your bracket,

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<v Speaker 1>you show it up. But hearing about people's fantasy football teams.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday's Jim Beheim is leading the Celebrity Bracket Challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>although he had Duke winning at all, Adam Sandler had

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<v Speaker 1>Houston winning at all. He's in second, tied for third.

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Prince, He's got Connecticut. If Yukon wins, Marvin wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to go to the parade without question?

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<v Speaker 1>You can stop asking. I'm stop asking without question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Allen's going to join us. I wonder if Ray

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<v Speaker 1>has some connections that if Yukon wins and Marvin and

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<v Speaker 1>his Huskies. Don't don't make me tear up. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>about Ray Allen away. Paulie feels about Walter Peton. Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the Ray of Hope camp. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Celebrity games with him Ivan Baker at the

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard Civic Center. I love Ray Allen. Wow. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>u DP. Sorry, well, obviously you weren't listening to how

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot when Ray was telling kids how to shoot. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You shoot like Anthony Mason. You very very flat line drive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not nice, it's accurate. But you know what, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you can wins, we're gonna get you in that parade. Somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get you in the parade. If not, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just have a little parade around the block at who's

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<v Speaker 1>got a convertible? Does anybody have a convertible? Probably have one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a convertible. Maybe we'll just have a sun

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<v Speaker 1>roof and Marvin will stick his head out and then

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<v Speaker 1>just play ladies and gentlemen. Marvin pride, Yeah, cricket. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm a roof for Yeah. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>is Danny Hurley gonna join us? This week. Okay, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get Danny Hurley on, just to ask him if

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin can be in the victory parade when you can

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<v Speaker 1>wins the reason. Yeah, that's it, that's all we want

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<v Speaker 1>to know. All right, let me take a break round

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll join us next. And when is uh? When

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<v Speaker 1>is the great college basketball analyst Aaron? Your wife going

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<v Speaker 1>to join a seaton In communicating with her agent, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to give you a couple of minutes, about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes from now. Oh okay, so round ten forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>your wife, I think, so okay, she's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>busy fielding calls from all over the world, all over

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<v Speaker 1>the How did you do it? How did sports just

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<v Speaker 1>hit her up? She's over in England now, yeah, Lebatard's,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Rome's gonna have her on. Colin Cowherd, I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>her on. Everybody's gonna want to have her on. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick's show.

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<v Speaker 1>correctly predicted the final four will join us coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in about twenty five minutes. I know, pretty amazing, so funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a line that I never thought I would

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<v Speaker 1>say on this program. See O'Connor's wife will join us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about predicting the final four. It is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hilarious when you look at the sheet that has

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<v Speaker 1>like just a quick rundown of like the celebrity bracket

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<v Speaker 1>challenge and all of this stuff, and then you see

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<v Speaker 1>fan first place, Aaron Shean, Yes, she's got Yukon winning

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Here is the Yukon head coach Dan Hurley

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<v Speaker 1>after the wine. When you coach at Rhode Island, Wagner are,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not always getting everyone's best shot every single night.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you player coach at Yukon, you get the

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<v Speaker 1>other team's best shot every single night. It is their

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. So you know, the climb to get to

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<v Speaker 1>this point has been real. It's been it's been more

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<v Speaker 1>challenging than I thought. Let's bring in Ray Allen, the

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<v Speaker 1>former Yukon Husky Hall of Famer, of course, how excited

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<v Speaker 1>are you about your alma mater there? Extremely? Extremely, First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, good morning Dan. This tournament season has certainly

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<v Speaker 1>been very entertaining on both sides, men and women. And

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<v Speaker 1>just to see you look at the final four and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the brackening the ranking of all the teams,

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<v Speaker 1>there's I think a nine seed, fifth seed, and then

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<v Speaker 1>four and five. Truly, to me, it shows that the

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<v Speaker 1>parody in college basketball that anybody could win at any

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<v Speaker 1>given moment. And when you think about the tournament the

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<v Speaker 1>way it's set up, it gives everybody a chance because

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<v Speaker 1>that ranking, just like for kids in high school, it

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<v Speaker 1>means nothing. You know, once we thought that ball up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, who wants it? The baddists is ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna come out on top. How is the tournament

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<v Speaker 1>changed since you played? Not at all. Just from my

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<v Speaker 1>vanished point, I talked to my kids about traveling between

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<v Speaker 1>region in tournament sites, to travel throughout America at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the for us, we always say this is

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<v Speaker 1>when we truly feel like a professional athlete, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are times when we were on the road for ten

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<v Speaker 1>eleven games. I'll tell you a story real quick. So

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<v Speaker 1>we played in ninety five against UCLA in Oakland, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the then Oakland Colosseum, and we stayed at the

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<v Speaker 1>Hilton by the airport. So we get beat by UCLA.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they go on and win the national championship

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<v Speaker 1>that year, and we had been on the road because

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<v Speaker 1>we got sent out west. I think we're number two

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<v Speaker 1>in our brackets, so we I think we played in

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<v Speaker 1>Utah and then we moved further on to Oakland. So

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<v Speaker 1>we lose that game. Everybody's you know, somewhat actually happy

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<v Speaker 1>to go home because we had been gone for eleven dates.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you figure you think everybody be sad, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were happier because we had been We're not used

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<v Speaker 1>to being away from home for so long. We get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the hotel and somebody broke into our hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and stole all of our stuff. So to add insult

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<v Speaker 1>to injury, I had to wear coach calhoun sweatsuit on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane back to Connecticut. So they took your uniforms

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, or did they just take your gear, your

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<v Speaker 1>your personal stuff, just all my personal stuff, everything you

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<v Speaker 1>had packed in bags, anything that I had. You figured

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<v Speaker 1>I was gone for eleven days, so I had basically

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I owned, all my CDs kids. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that um so everything that it was a value

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<v Speaker 1>to me at the time, you know, it was stolen

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<v Speaker 1>from me. So I guess it's a story to tell now.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't really matter in the long term. You stayed

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<v Speaker 1>three years, Yeah, you were playing. Now would you be

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<v Speaker 1>one and done? Uh? Were you ready to be one

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<v Speaker 1>and done? I don't think I was ready even even

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<v Speaker 1>three years of Yukon. I was having such a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that we lose sight of, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think kids forget once. Going professional is great and you

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<v Speaker 1>get to make money, but in college it's an experience

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<v Speaker 1>that I hope kids would kind of cherish and want

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<v Speaker 1>to experience, just being a collegiate athlete, being on a

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<v Speaker 1>campus and having an opportunity to make mistakes, building bonds

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<v Speaker 1>and long term relationships. Because I think about my college teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to each other's weddings, see each other over summers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play golf together. I think that's the most

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<v Speaker 1>extensive network of friends that you'll ultimately end up having

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<v Speaker 1>as those even the college was are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the final four that I'm planning on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it. I think you should wear

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<v Speaker 1>your uniform. My uniform which one a Yukon? Oh well

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<v Speaker 1>you got I know, you got about and you got

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<v Speaker 1>your Seattle super Sonics hoodie on. Yeah. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When are they getting a team? They got to be

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<v Speaker 1>getting a team. When Vegas gets a team, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Seattle should be next on the docketent. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all so rich in that region to think about. When

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<v Speaker 1>you think about Seattle, think about all the players now

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<v Speaker 1>in the league coming from Seattle. Just think about the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that played that came from Seattle. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to those those mid nineties Seattle teams,

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<v Speaker 1>you know with Gary Payton and Sean Kemp and Dela

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<v Speaker 1>Strength and Hercy Hawkins, all those guys, they grew up

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<v Speaker 1>a generation of players. They helped bring basketball to that reagion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in such a strong manner. So now those

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<v Speaker 1>kids are growing up. So the latest you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got uh Bean Carroll, um, you know now young guy

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<v Speaker 1>out of Seattle um um Uh Davante out of planning

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<v Speaker 1>for the Hawks. Uh. Just so many great young talents

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<v Speaker 1>that have come out of Seattle area. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>tribute to having that franchise in that community. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most people look at it as a as a franchise

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<v Speaker 1>or a professional team, but it's a community resource. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>kids look up to those players. Those players visit the

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<v Speaker 1>schools in the community, you see them on the streets

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Just it helps kids dream or aspire to

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<v Speaker 1>be greater than that which they see in there in

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<v Speaker 1>the communities. Talking to Ray Allen, the Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 1>two time NBA champ, I'll give you a vote for

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<v Speaker 1>the MVP. Who you're voting for in the NBA, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, I'm voting for up to what I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going with. Indeed, did it change recently? Um the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA so's It's difficult to put your finger on it

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<v Speaker 1>because oftentimes when you're looking at UH these different pockets

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, you know, each ten game stretched something

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<v Speaker 1>different happens. So you start to think, over the period

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty two games, who is the most consistent and

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, which team is the most successful.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like to think that it's a difficult equation

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<v Speaker 1>because any year it could be two or three guys

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<v Speaker 1>that you can legitimately says the MVP, but then you

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 1>also have to give the edge to that guy. I

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>think the ultimate understanding is if you remove that player

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>from the team, how good would that team be? Which

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a difficult idea to process because you know, a

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>good team still has other players on them just as

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>well that can help me win the championship. But the

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>MVP removed from that team is also you lose that

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>guy and you definitely won't be where you are, So,

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, Joke, it's just set definitely a close second

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>because Denver's second or third in the NBA and in

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>wins right now or in the Western Conference at least. Yeah,

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I would probably still give it to Joker because if

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you him away, they don't have an All star, you

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>know Porter, you know Jamal is a good player. Those

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't all stars. Uh, ebiad still has hardened, and Harden's

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>leading the NBA and assist and still is a great player. Uh.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Jannis has a couple of All stars. Holiday and Middleton

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>are both I think the Joker has done more with

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>less on a consistent basis, and they have the best

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>record in the West. But I think there's voter voter

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>fatigue here, right, yeah, and right yeah, I agree with

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you when you think about Denver, most people when you

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about who votes for the VP, you know Denver

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times they get lost in the sauce

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>because they are out West Jokish one two times already.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So now he's almost a victim of his all success.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I do believe just when you're throwing Be's name in there,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, even with Hardened and Bead has had some

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>some big game that he'd been very dominant, he's been

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>very unstoppable. Uh. The one thing that you have to

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>also protect against when you make these decisions is the

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>league is a very stats driven league in today's era,

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>so you have to also be careful of just looking

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>at the guy's stats and saying, oh, he had this

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>many points, it's many rebounds, as many assists. A lot

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>of times it is an eye test too, looking at

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the player and just seeing because sometimes when you see

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>a guy on the floor, that player's effect, you know,

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>the ability to create double teams, to the ability to

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>just change the game just for being out. And I

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>don't even think it's a plus or minus thing, it's

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>just the it's that that orror that that player has

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>when they're out. On the floor, the confidence it gives

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to their their teammates, and you know, similar to us.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I've had that. I'm sure that effect on teams. But

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>then when I was in Boston, KG was that type

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>of player because we were so much better with him

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>on the floor because he did intimidate other players. So

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>that too has an effect on How how did he intimidate? Uh,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you need to pull up some video clip right now. Well,

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>but but is it because he's yelling at them? I

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>know his play would be intimidating, but well, I think

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>all of the above because he he I think one

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>his his his stature because you know, being seven feet

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>tall and being long, and then and then you know,

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>screaming and yelling and intimidating. Uh, just dunking the ball

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.959
<v Speaker 1>and screaming like a lot of younger kids that come

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>in the league, that that intimidates. You gotta remember. I

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>think about when I came into the league, the guys

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that intimidated me just by me being on the floor

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>with them, MJ. Mitch Richmond, Reggie Miller, Uh, excuse me,

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Clyde Drexler. Uh, the list goes on. But how would

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they intimidate you? Was it just talent. Uh well, yeah, talent.

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta remember too, you when you feel like you're

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>in the situation where you and in some instances when

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you're young, you feel like you don't belong because you

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>watch these guys played for so many years of your life,

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>so now you're on the floor with them, like you

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>When I first played against m J, I'm still I'm

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to their theme song when they run out onto

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the floor. I asked myself, how did I get in

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the TV? Like I remember sitting at home on the

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>couch and you hear this, the Running of the Bulls

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>song comes on, and now I'm sitting on the court

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>live like I just somebody just snapped the finger on

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the inside. So you start to when you start thinking that, like, wow,

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>am I even do I even belong here? So I

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think that trepidation. I think it does rest into everybody's

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>minds when they first get into the league. And then

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a point where you have to say I'm one

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of these guys, like I can compete against them, and

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>he actually also has to guard me as well. But

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>did Jordan know that you were intimidated by him? Early? No? No,

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I had never met Jordan up to that point. So

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>when when this was a preseason game, So when he

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>came out to court, he said, congratulations, welcome to the NBA.

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing I thought, I was like, Wow,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>this man knows my name. And that was the first

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>stamp for me of having arrived, because this the greatest

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>player of all times. He knows who I am in

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>this game of basketball and the thing that I've learned. Yeah,

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>but what did he do to you in the game. Well,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it was preseason, so not a lot. I have to

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>add that I scored nine points in the first quarter

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know the coach took me out of

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the game and I didn't play anymore. And at that time,

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like I couldn't believe it. I was like

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was about to sport thirty and I

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize Like coach was already cool with me. He

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>knew what I brought to the table. So then I

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>sat for most of the game and he wanted to

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>see what these other guys could do. So it was

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>certainly one of those moments where I learned, you know,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>about minutes, you know. And then I had this conversation.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>We were in preseason game and it happened to be

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>against Minnesota, and it was myself, Kevin Garnett and Stepan

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Marbury and we were in the locker room after a game.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>We were somewhere like Moline, Illinois or far going North Dakota,

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and we were just discussing how we were talking about

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>how good we were because we were putting up numbers

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in preseason, and KG looks at us and goes, guys

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>aren't playing hard. They don't play harden, don't, don't, don't.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't get all beside youself thinking that you're great. Yet

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, these guys are just going through the motions.

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And I did learn that, like it's just kind of

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>feeling out process in the preseason. All right, I have

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy that works here, Marvin and lifelong Yukon Penn

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>went to Yukon went to your basketball camp. Anything else

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to tell ray Allen Marvin, Yeah, him and

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Ben Baker used to have those celebrity tournaments, those celebrity

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>games at the hard Percivic Center. Raya hold Camp went

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to all that, I didn't listen to you when you've

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>showing us to shoot emotions. But big fan, why did

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you listen? Marvin? I don't understand. I was giving you

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>some nuggets and you didn't listen. Ray, He shoots like

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Mason, Oh, I mean see, you didn't listen to Marvin.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>We could have listen. Okay, Okay, it's the blueprint. We

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>need some help here, Ray, because let's say Yukon wins.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Marvin would like to go to the parade. Okay, Like

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>he wants to be in the parade, And what qualification

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>does he have to be in the parade? Well, he's

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>on my show, so he's around a great shooter who

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>knows basketball, and he went to Yukon. What do you need?

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I think based on those qualifications, he definitely can be

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>at the parade. Okay, okay, okay. But but here's the

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing, Marvin. You live in Connecticut. You what do Yukon?

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.239
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not really a parade. In college, you just

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>show up and you see the guys come down. You

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>go to the arena and you just sit there and

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you celebrate the guys. Like, what more can you ask for? It?

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe be on stage? Can't do that right? Okay? Yeah,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, Marvin, Uh, what do you think it's a

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>better chance Seattle gets an NBA team or Marvin would

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>be in the parade, he'd be part of the ceremony.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>M I would have to say that, uh, Marvin, Sorry, yeah,

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>get a team before you get on that mar Marv truck.

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm asking Ray right here. I'm trying. Hey, No,

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it's all good. I'm talking to Ray Allen. So I

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>can quit the show. I can do all that right now. No,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you're quitting the show. No, no no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Don't quit, Marvin, don't no, no no, no, I

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>won't come every month. You know what, I'm gonna get

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>ahold of the Shaman's napier. He could probably help you

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>get you know, somebody like that. It could get He's

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>got some juice there. What do you think? There's this

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>guy named Yes. Do not answer the phone if Marvin calls. Okay,

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>so sorry, sebassand Apierre not gonna take your call either.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Mark Khalid al Amine can get you into that parade. Ray,

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>good to talk to you. Good luck with you with

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>your husky. Sorry, great to talk to you. So let's

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 1>do it all right? That's Ray Allen. Yeah, two time

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>NBA champ. I love that hoodie, Seattle supersunic Let's take

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a break. One of the great basketball minds in America

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>will join us coming up next. Thanks for listening to

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.120
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0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the numbers here of now, Jay Billis joined us in

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>the first hour, and he said that he wasn't surprised

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>at the final four looks like it does. One out

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>of every six hundred thousand brackets predicted the final four

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>correctly in the men's Bracket Challenge game. One of those people,

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the great college basketball minds in America, the

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<v Speaker 1>Guru bracketologist, Seaton's wife Aaron, joins us on the program. Eron,

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I know you're is he probably fielding a lot of

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>calls from around the world, But congratulations so far you've

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>got Yukon winning at all. So could you walk us

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>through the philosophy that brought you to this unbelievable final four? Well, Dan,

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. I did want to let you

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>know that I planned on giving you the exclusive as

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>as these scores were coming in over the weekend, because

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been friends for a while. But as

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I explained to Seaton earlier, that this tournament is just

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>all about guard play. Okay, senior guard play a lot

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>of times too, Yeah, senior guard vibes that. Okay, give

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 1>us an idea of how you came up with these

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>four schools to meet in the final four. Okay, well,

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I was getting my son ready for school,

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so being distracted is probably the number one thing that

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I did. And then I just kind of went to

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>places that I've lived. I lived in San Diego, I've

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>lived in Miami, I currently live in Connecticut. And then

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I added the extra Florida in there, because I spent

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time in Florida. So okay, there you go.

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>All right. Not many people would probably take that, Raychanel,

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think now we have the blueprint moving forward

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>for March madness. How is your status in your household

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>with your husband and your son now that you're one

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of the very very very very very few people in

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the world who's pulled this off. Well, that was something

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention. I was a little bit of

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a joke in the household when I first when oh wow, yeah, yeah,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>my son thought I was hysterical and and Seton was

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>really he was actually very encouraging. He says, Oh, no,

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this is how you do it. You just you just

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>wing it, And I say, then, over the course of

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the tournament, I could tell that my son was getting

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<v Speaker 1>quite competitive and a little angry that mom was starting

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<v Speaker 1>to do better than he was, and now over this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend I think he had a little change of

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<v Speaker 1>heart and thought, wow, that's pretty cool, how hysterical, but

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<v Speaker 1>also how awesome that mom's winning. So yeah, how long

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to hold this over? Though? Oh? As

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<v Speaker 1>long as I can. Well, you know you got Connecticut

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<v Speaker 1>winning at all, so that if that happens, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say you would probably should be invited to the parade,

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<v Speaker 1>the Yukon Parade. I agree with you, I absolutely should me. Well, yes, Paul, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're real busy, but as any chance we

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<v Speaker 1>get some Master's picks, I want to call my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you making other predictions? Aaron? Oh, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably can, but I would need to be I

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<v Speaker 1>at least have to know who didn't the Master's Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's fine. Yeah, maybe you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't know who was in March Madness until they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put it in front of your seat. And

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<v Speaker 1>are you okay with your wife being the sports expert

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<v Speaker 1>in your family? I honestly I thought that was clear

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<v Speaker 1>long before today. It was to us, We didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it was to you, I mean, anybody who knows

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<v Speaker 1>or knows. Yeah, Aaron I would, I would do this

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<v Speaker 1>as a walk off. I don't know if I'd fill

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<v Speaker 1>out another bracket. This is only the second bracket I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever filled out. Okay, that's pretty ever. You're you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the smallest of smallest percentiles in the United States with

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<v Speaker 1>thousand millions of people who submitted brackets, and you're there, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty impressive. I don't care how you came up

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<v Speaker 1>with it, it's still pretty damn impressive. Well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. How about a round of applause? Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the rest of the tournament. And uh and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us and interrupting your busy day. Well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Okay, that's seen O'Connor's wife, Aaron Yeah, yeah, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the Rains of Beauty and the Basketball. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the pre tournament title odds Connecticut plus two thousand, Miami

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<v Speaker 1>plus forty one thousand or four hundred or four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>should say so, Yukon plus two thousand, Miami four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego State eight thousand, Florida Atlantic plus twenty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>How can j Billis say, you know, I'm not that

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<v Speaker 1>surprised you gotta be surprised at Florida Atlantic. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's not surprised San Diego State, Miami. I'm surprised, But

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<v Speaker 1>it takes and it took other schools knocking off teams

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<v Speaker 1>that you would expect to be here. Look, last year

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<v Speaker 1>we had blue bloods, we had Villanova, Duke, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas like that. That's what we expect with the final four.

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<v Speaker 1>Not this year. So I think this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an anomal it happened. Got some of these schools where

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<v Speaker 1>you got older players transfer portal extra year with COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had some of these teams that I watched Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought wow, Alabama. At times you'd go wow, Connecticut.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Connecticut started great and they were number one, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's like whoa big East you know,

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Conference play beat him up a little bit there, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a really good team, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what the year, this is a good team. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have marquee players, and you know, we get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in that and you see there's a freshman, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a sophomore, maybe there's the reigning player of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's somebody who's an All American. You don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a lot of transfers, you got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of older player, you got one freshman that was left

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<v Speaker 1>in the elite eight as in the starting lineup. Yes. Eton.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got in this morning, Mario was you know

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<v Speaker 1>he organizes the brackets. Yeah. He was just like, did

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<v Speaker 1>your wife submit one? And I said yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>he went through the whole final four. He sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that said a one hundred dollars parlay of

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego State, Florida, Atlantic, Miami and Yukon a one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars bet would have paid off just about nine

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, nine million dollars. Would you have quit the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we're up against a break? Oh sorry, I'll have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't more meet Friday. I would have said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>go get a man, see you later, see you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Opening the Mediterranean branch of the show. Just getting us

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<v Speaker 1>over together, corresponded, Final hour coming up, more phone calls,

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<v Speaker 1>update the poll results. Glad you have you a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the program on this Monday, Dan Patrick Show,