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Speaker 1: out of every six hundred thousand brackets predicted the Final
Speaker 1: four correctly in the Man Bracket Challenge game. One of
Speaker 1: those people will join us a little bit later on
Speaker 1: Setan O'Connor's wife, Aaron, has all four of the final
Speaker 1: four teams. And it's not one of those where you
Speaker 1: fill out, you know, ten different brackets. She filled out one,
Speaker 1: and she had her philosophy of why she picked these teams.
Speaker 1: Although j Billis said we shouldn't be surprised of the
Speaker 1: final four, I think we should be shocked, not surprised. Yukon,
Speaker 1: no problem the other three. Man, you could be a
Speaker 1: student of college basketball. You could be a PhD in
Speaker 1: college basketball. You don't have those teams going to the
Speaker 1: Final four, but Florida Atlantic, Connecticut, San Diego State, Miami
Speaker 1: in the final four. Great eight seven seven three D
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Speaker 1: join is coming up here in a little bit. Lebron
Speaker 1: James off the bench in return for the Lakers. And
Speaker 1: I thought Lebron was going to need surgery on this foot,
Speaker 1: and he was out longer because we thought that it
Speaker 1: was According to him, he rolled it on somebody's shoe
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Speaker 1: maybe he needs surgery. He said two doctors told him
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Speaker 1: the Lebron James of feet and decided that he was
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Speaker 1: the Lebron James of feet. The doctor is the Lebron James.
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Speaker 1: I did hear somebody say, shouldn't you have gone to
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan? I'd have gone back sooner and Michael
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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to some college basketball best and worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend. We'll get to more of your phone
Speaker 1: calls coming up. By the way, the NFL is holding
Speaker 1: meetings right now Competition Committee, and they want to do
Speaker 1: their best to do away with the kickoff, but also
Speaker 1: the punt. There's a real push because the punt injuries
Speaker 1: and also penalties. And I'm reading some things from the
Speaker 1: meetings so far that they this is a proposal once
Speaker 1: again having touchbacks on punts returned to the twenty five
Speaker 1: yard line, not the twenty in part to encourage teams
Speaker 1: with a fourth down near midfield to go for it
Speaker 1: instead of punting it away. Also, they want to do
Speaker 1: their best to get rid of the kickoff. They've been
Speaker 1: trying to do this for a few years now. And
Speaker 1: I went back, had our stats guy, John Tuvey, go back,
Speaker 1: and I said, when did they change the kickoff? And
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty eleven. Used to be sixteen
Speaker 1: percent of the kickoffs fourteen percent, twelve percent those were
Speaker 1: not returned. Now I'm looking at twenty twenty two, sixty
Speaker 1: one percent not returned, fifty eight percent, sixty two percent,
Speaker 1: sixty two percent, sixty two percent, fifty eight percent, fifty
Speaker 1: nine percent. That's descending order here of going back to
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. You can't get rid of the kickoff because
Speaker 1: of the on side kick. If you outlaw the on
Speaker 1: side kick, then you don't have to have a kickoff.
Speaker 1: You would start the game at the twenty five yard
Speaker 1: line and the NFL would probably be happy with that.
Speaker 1: But these numbers, that's why they moved it up five yards.
Speaker 1: They want it through the end zone or if you're
Speaker 1: going to have a fair catch. Now it goes out
Speaker 1: to the twenty five yard line. But they're trying to
Speaker 1: by the way, they're going to keep the tush push.
Speaker 1: The Eagles will love this. It looks like they're going
Speaker 1: to keep it. The NFL has looked at this and said,
Speaker 1: you know, rather than complain about it, maybe teams should
Speaker 1: protect practice perfecting the sneak just like the Eagles do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought that they I was told that they were
Speaker 1: going to address it. I thought that that they might
Speaker 1: outlaw it. But but it's because they're always talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: somebody could get hurt. But I don't know how dangerous
Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak is unless you're a defensive lineman. It's
Speaker 1: not the quarterback. It's actually the defensive lineman who get
Speaker 1: caught in the undertow there where they just you know,
Speaker 1: bulldoze them. But now the Eagles do it great. Nobody
Speaker 1: else does it like that. I mean, one of the
Speaker 1: great quarterback sneakers of all time is Tom Brady, but
Speaker 1: not like this, because this is where you just kind
Speaker 1: of line up in that power wedge and then just
Speaker 1: push your way forward. Because Jalen Hurts isn't a big quarterback.
Speaker 1: Buffalo does this a little bit with Josh Allen. But
Speaker 1: now they're saying, hey, if you can't beat them, join them.
Speaker 1: Figure it out. Yeah, yeah, that should be the game.
Speaker 1: It would have been so weak to take away a
Speaker 1: play because somebody's too good at it. Yeah, paint. Do
Speaker 1: you think the NFL kept it or is going to
Speaker 1: keep it because they're like, well, you know what, even
Speaker 1: if it's a little dangerous or could be dangerous, it's
Speaker 1: still better than punting on fourth down. And if we
Speaker 1: have more people going for a fourth down, it's a
Speaker 1: more dramatic sport. Well, they're not even going for it
Speaker 1: necessarily on fourth down. If it's third and two, third
Speaker 1: and three. I mean, that's that's a great play. And
Speaker 1: you're telling how many times do you have a sport
Speaker 1: a play where I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do and you can't stomp it. And there's certain players,
Speaker 1: certain you know, aspects of certain games where you go here,
Speaker 1: it comes and I can't do anything about it. I
Speaker 1: don't want to take it away. I liked it. I
Speaker 1: was entertained by it. But I don't you know, the
Speaker 1: NFL is so conscious about injuries that you want to
Speaker 1: take away punts, you want to take away kickoffs. Here's
Speaker 1: another thing. It feels like, just let him play football.
Speaker 1: Like some of this is just football, Like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: out smarting you, and we don't give credit to the
Speaker 1: teams that come up with innovations. I'm surprised they didn't
Speaker 1: do that. You know that Tampa two. You guys can't
Speaker 1: play the Tampa two. Why not? Well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it seems like nobody else is doing it. Well
Speaker 1: they will. Hey, the West Coast offense, what are you
Speaker 1: guys doing? We'll go back to the forward pass? Hey,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? We run the football? You can't
Speaker 1: do You're ruining the sport and forward pass. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks he played, Each team has a designated pusher,
Speaker 1: maybe not the most friendly term, but like one guy
Speaker 1: in each team who is allowed to push the quarterback
Speaker 1: and no one else is allowed. If he's sometimes somehow
Speaker 1: rolls an ankle, he's out. You're oh, well, we're down
Speaker 1: a pusher. We have no one to push the quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's not Bob Sledding, right. I like that role. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of the Bears and Refrigerator Perry.
Speaker 1: They lined him up on the goal line and being like,
Speaker 1: all right, good luck tackling this guy. So you know,
Speaker 1: the owners And if you're wondering about the competition committee,
Speaker 1: there's ten people on the competition Committee, owners, team executives,
Speaker 1: general managers, and head coaches, and then they look at
Speaker 1: each year after the season and then they'll submit proposals
Speaker 1: to owners for review with the owners meeting. You had
Speaker 1: the competition committee meeting and submitted eight potential rule changes
Speaker 1: to be voted upon special teams. Really, that's what it's
Speaker 1: It's all about the punt and the kickoff and how
Speaker 1: do you take it out of the game. Yes, Paulie,
Speaker 1: I have a new poll for the room. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is one where you have to be honest, like double secret,
Speaker 1: be honest. In the NFL, I would like more kickoffs returned.
Speaker 1: Despite the air quotes danger the play, even if it's
Speaker 1: proven to be a more dangerous play, you still like
Speaker 1: it or I like that the NFL is to emphasize
Speaker 1: the play over the years to help player safety. I'm
Speaker 1: fine with most touchback. I would like to have kickoffs returned, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And why why wouldn't they give that to the fans?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm concerned about my entertainment. If you play
Speaker 1: the game, you're already taking on the risk of playing
Speaker 1: the game. It's not like where you go. Damn, I
Speaker 1: could get hurt here. We know that, but I would
Speaker 1: want to seek kickoffs return. Imagine the players who wouldn't
Speaker 1: have Devin Hester would not have a career, or he
Speaker 1: would be a wide receiver. He would he would not
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders with punt returns. You know these guys who
Speaker 1: made a name for themselves as great kick returners. Yes, Ton,
Speaker 1: you may have a team with a week offense late
Speaker 1: in the game and the only shot they have is
Speaker 1: to have a great runback to put them in good
Speaker 1: field position. And it comes down to maybe they have
Speaker 1: that great special teams play that can keep him in
Speaker 1: the game. I wondered if you had a philosophy and
Speaker 1: your team just said, we're running every kickback unless it
Speaker 1: goes out of the end zone, every single one, We're
Speaker 1: going to take it back. Yeah, Mark, Could you imagine
Speaker 1: being like a back lineback or a backup running back
Speaker 1: and the only time you have a chance to make
Speaker 1: an impact on the game is being a special teams guy.
Speaker 1: And you hear like welcome to the jungle right before
Speaker 1: the opening kickoff, and you're ready. You're jumping up and
Speaker 1: down and touch back. Yeah, I know it is, but
Speaker 1: but it's the only way to open up the game.
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna kick off this game. You can't go
Speaker 1: and welcome. We're gonna put the ball on the twenty
Speaker 1: five yard line. And I think the NFL would love
Speaker 1: that if you just said, hey, we started the twenty
Speaker 1: five yard line. Yeah, see, like the coin flip and
Speaker 1: then that's it. Yeah, okay, you gotta start. That's it.
Speaker 1: No kickoff because it is a buzz kill when you're
Speaker 1: gonna all right, man, here we go, here we go
Speaker 1: and touch back out of the end zone. And these
Speaker 1: guys are so good now and there's you know, they
Speaker 1: moved it up five yards. Their legs are so powerful. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're so powerful, and they kick it out of the
Speaker 1: end zone. Yes, boone, Okay, this is could be a
Speaker 1: horrible idea. What if a kickoff return for a touchdown
Speaker 1: where we're ten points good? Incentivize the play, but they
Speaker 1: don't want to. They don't want your returning the kick.
Speaker 1: But the fans do. I know, but they don't want.
Speaker 1: They don't want to incentivize. It's funny. The players want
Speaker 1: to because they want to make a name. If you're
Speaker 1: like a backup linebacker. You want to, you know, make
Speaker 1: some plays, knock a ball loose. Well, who's the guy
Speaker 1: with the Patriots Slater? I mean, Matthew Slater will probably
Speaker 1: be a borderline Hall of Famer. Yeah. Uh, Steve Tasker's
Speaker 1: name always comes up for the Hall of Fame. It's
Speaker 1: due because of special teams. Who wantsn't like Steve Dias
Speaker 1: I think played for the Giants. He was a special
Speaker 1: teams guy. Yes, Ton, just kind of boring because then
Speaker 1: it's if maybe it's easy for the broadcast because they
Speaker 1: have an extra few sexs. Ago, let's meet the Patriots
Speaker 1: offense as they come jogging out after the air after
Speaker 1: it goes into the end zone and you get to
Speaker 1: put up other players names or whatever. It's just really
Speaker 1: a deflating way to start it. Getting to oay, thank
Speaker 1: you Ton, all right? Uh, Trent and Virginia leads us off. Hey, DP,
Speaker 1: so I have an interesting tidbit about this year's Final four. Hey,
Speaker 1: so this is the second lowest seeding in the Final four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we brought that up last hour. Yeah, but the crazy
Speaker 1: thing is that the highest seed remaining in twenty eleven
Speaker 1: was Yukon. Same this year, and it's twenty eleven. Yukon
Speaker 1: won it all, so let's see if they can do
Speaker 1: it again this year. Okay, yeah, Yukon was a four.
Speaker 1: This year. You go back to twenty eleven, Yukon was
Speaker 1: a three, Kentucky four, Butler was an eight, and VCU
Speaker 1: with shock as Smart was in eleven. So you have
Speaker 1: four or five, five and nine Florida Atlantic as a nine.
Speaker 1: Chris in Wisconsin joins us. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind? Hey, DP,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call? Six foot six, one ninety.
Speaker 1: If I stick my tongue out, I look like a zipper.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering about breaking right. I got my bracket.
Speaker 1: I made six out of eight going into the Elite eight,
Speaker 1: only missing Houston and Marquette, and now I got two
Speaker 1: out of the four, got San Diego State and Yukon,
Speaker 1: so I feel pretty good about that. However, I have
Speaker 1: three other brackets. They were Homer brackets. I had Marquette winning.
Speaker 1: So my question is do I get bragging rights because
Speaker 1: I got one out of you know, one decent bracket
Speaker 1: out of four that's really good. No, No, you get
Speaker 1: a one bracket. That's your brag bracket. It's like having
Speaker 1: ten fantasy teams and then all of a sudden, you say,
Speaker 1: he's on my fantasy team. He's on my fantasy team,
Speaker 1: and then you go, how many fantasy teams? I'm in
Speaker 1: ten leagues? Pretty much every I would hate doing that
Speaker 1: because you would go into a game rooting four and
Speaker 1: against your player. Yeah, Paul, you know, as bothered as
Speaker 1: I am by people when they bring up their fantasy
Speaker 1: football team, I'm not so bothered when people bring up
Speaker 1: their bracket. It's kind of I guess it's a shorter window.
Speaker 1: It's like a three week bragging. You pull out your bracket,
Speaker 1: you show it up. But hearing about people's fantasy football teams.
Speaker 1: On Monday's Jim Beheim is leading the Celebrity Bracket Challenge,
Speaker 1: although he had Duke winning at all, Adam Sandler had
Speaker 1: Houston winning at all. He's in second, tied for third.
Speaker 1: Marvin Prince, He's got Connecticut. If Yukon wins, Marvin wins.
Speaker 1: Are you going to go to the parade without question?
Speaker 1: You can stop asking. I'm stop asking without question. Okay,
Speaker 1: Ray Allen's going to join us. I wonder if Ray
Speaker 1: has some connections that if Yukon wins and Marvin and
Speaker 1: his Huskies. Don't don't make me tear up. I feel
Speaker 1: about Ray Allen away. Paulie feels about Walter Peton. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1: I went to the Ray of Hope camp. I went
Speaker 1: to the Celebrity games with him Ivan Baker at the
Speaker 1: Harvard Civic Center. I love Ray Allen. Wow. Back to
Speaker 1: u DP. Sorry, well, obviously you weren't listening to how
Speaker 1: to shoot when Ray was telling kids how to shoot. Huh.
Speaker 1: You shoot like Anthony Mason. You very very flat line drive.
Speaker 1: That's not nice, it's accurate. But you know what, if
Speaker 1: if you can wins, we're gonna get you in that parade. Somehow,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you in the parade. If not, we'll
Speaker 1: just have a little parade around the block at who's
Speaker 1: got a convertible? Does anybody have a convertible? Probably have one. Okay,
Speaker 1: we need a convertible. Maybe we'll just have a sun
Speaker 1: roof and Marvin will stick his head out and then
Speaker 1: just play ladies and gentlemen. Marvin pride, Yeah, cricket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm a roof for Yeah. You know what
Speaker 1: is Danny Hurley gonna join us? This week. Okay, Like,
Speaker 1: let's get Danny Hurley on, just to ask him if
Speaker 1: Marvin can be in the victory parade when you can
Speaker 1: wins the reason. Yeah, that's it, that's all we want
Speaker 1: to know. All right, let me take a break round
Speaker 1: and we'll join us next. And when is uh? When
Speaker 1: is the great college basketball analyst Aaron? Your wife going
Speaker 1: to join a seaton In communicating with her agent, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to give you a couple of minutes, about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes from now. Oh okay, so round ten forty five,
Speaker 1: your wife, I think, so okay, she's got to be
Speaker 1: busy fielding calls from all over the world, all over
Speaker 1: the How did you do it? How did sports just
Speaker 1: hit her up? She's over in England now, yeah, Lebatard's,
Speaker 1: Jim Rome's gonna have her on. Colin Cowherd, I'll have
Speaker 1: her on. Everybody's gonna want to have her on. Let
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Speaker 1: in about twenty five minutes. I know, pretty amazing, so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know a line that I never thought I would
Speaker 1: say on this program. See O'Connor's wife will join us
Speaker 1: to talk about predicting the final four. It is kind
Speaker 1: of hilarious when you look at the sheet that has
Speaker 1: like just a quick rundown of like the celebrity bracket
Speaker 1: challenge and all of this stuff, and then you see
Speaker 1: fan first place, Aaron Shean, Yes, she's got Yukon winning
Speaker 1: at all. Here is the Yukon head coach Dan Hurley
Speaker 1: after the wine. When you coach at Rhode Island, Wagner are,
Speaker 1: you're not always getting everyone's best shot every single night.
Speaker 1: And when you player coach at Yukon, you get the
Speaker 1: other team's best shot every single night. It is their
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So you know, the climb to get to
Speaker 1: this point has been real. It's been it's been more
Speaker 1: challenging than I thought. Let's bring in Ray Allen, the
Speaker 1: former Yukon Husky Hall of Famer, of course, how excited
Speaker 1: are you about your alma mater there? Extremely? Extremely, First
Speaker 1: of all, good morning Dan. This tournament season has certainly
Speaker 1: been very entertaining on both sides, men and women. And
Speaker 1: just to see you look at the final four and
Speaker 1: you look at the brackening the ranking of all the teams,
Speaker 1: there's I think a nine seed, fifth seed, and then
Speaker 1: four and five. Truly, to me, it shows that the
Speaker 1: parody in college basketball that anybody could win at any
Speaker 1: given moment. And when you think about the tournament the
Speaker 1: way it's set up, it gives everybody a chance because
Speaker 1: that ranking, just like for kids in high school, it
Speaker 1: means nothing. You know, once we thought that ball up
Speaker 1: in the air, who wants it? The baddists is ultimately
Speaker 1: he's gonna come out on top. How is the tournament
Speaker 1: changed since you played? Not at all. Just from my
Speaker 1: vanished point, I talked to my kids about traveling between
Speaker 1: region in tournament sites, to travel throughout America at that time.
Speaker 1: Some of the for us, we always say this is
Speaker 1: when we truly feel like a professional athlete, because there
Speaker 1: are times when we were on the road for ten
Speaker 1: eleven games. I'll tell you a story real quick. So
Speaker 1: we played in ninety five against UCLA in Oakland, you know,
Speaker 1: at the then Oakland Colosseum, and we stayed at the
Speaker 1: Hilton by the airport. So we get beat by UCLA.
Speaker 1: You know, they go on and win the national championship
Speaker 1: that year, and we had been on the road because
Speaker 1: we got sent out west. I think we're number two
Speaker 1: in our brackets, so we I think we played in
Speaker 1: Utah and then we moved further on to Oakland. So
Speaker 1: we lose that game. Everybody's you know, somewhat actually happy
Speaker 1: to go home because we had been gone for eleven dates.
Speaker 1: You know, you figure you think everybody be sad, but
Speaker 1: we were happier because we had been We're not used
Speaker 1: to being away from home for so long. We get
Speaker 1: back to the hotel and somebody broke into our hotel
Speaker 1: and stole all of our stuff. So to add insult
Speaker 1: to injury, I had to wear coach calhoun sweatsuit on
Speaker 1: the plane back to Connecticut. So they took your uniforms
Speaker 1: and everything, or did they just take your gear, your
Speaker 1: your personal stuff, just all my personal stuff, everything you
Speaker 1: had packed in bags, anything that I had. You figured
Speaker 1: I was gone for eleven days, so I had basically
Speaker 1: everything that I owned, all my CDs kids. That's the
Speaker 1: thing that um so everything that it was a value
Speaker 1: to me at the time, you know, it was stolen
Speaker 1: from me. So I guess it's a story to tell now.
Speaker 1: That didn't really matter in the long term. You stayed
Speaker 1: three years, Yeah, you were playing. Now would you be
Speaker 1: one and done? Uh? Were you ready to be one
Speaker 1: and done? I don't think I was ready even even
Speaker 1: three years of Yukon. I was having such a blast.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that we lose sight of, and I
Speaker 1: think kids forget once. Going professional is great and you
Speaker 1: get to make money, but in college it's an experience
Speaker 1: that I hope kids would kind of cherish and want
Speaker 1: to experience, just being a collegiate athlete, being on a
Speaker 1: campus and having an opportunity to make mistakes, building bonds
Speaker 1: and long term relationships. Because I think about my college teammates.
Speaker 1: We go to each other's weddings, see each other over summers,
Speaker 1: you know, play golf together. I think that's the most
Speaker 1: extensive network of friends that you'll ultimately end up having
Speaker 1: as those even the college was are you going to
Speaker 1: go to the final four that I'm planning on it.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I think you should wear
Speaker 1: your uniform. My uniform which one a Yukon? Oh well
Speaker 1: you got I know, you got about and you got
Speaker 1: your Seattle super Sonics hoodie on. Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 1: When are they getting a team? They got to be
Speaker 1: getting a team. When Vegas gets a team, right, I
Speaker 1: think Seattle should be next on the docketent. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all so rich in that region to think about. When
Speaker 1: you think about Seattle, think about all the players now
Speaker 1: in the league coming from Seattle. Just think about the
Speaker 1: guys that played that came from Seattle. I think if
Speaker 1: you go back to those those mid nineties Seattle teams,
Speaker 1: you know with Gary Payton and Sean Kemp and Dela
Speaker 1: Strength and Hercy Hawkins, all those guys, they grew up
Speaker 1: a generation of players. They helped bring basketball to that reagion,
Speaker 1: you know, in such a strong manner. So now those
Speaker 1: kids are growing up. So the latest you know, you
Speaker 1: got uh Bean Carroll, um, you know now young guy
Speaker 1: out of Seattle um um Uh Davante out of planning
Speaker 1: for the Hawks. Uh. Just so many great young talents
Speaker 1: that have come out of Seattle area. And that's a
Speaker 1: tribute to having that franchise in that community. I think
Speaker 1: most people look at it as a as a franchise
Speaker 1: or a professional team, but it's a community resource. You know,
Speaker 1: kids look up to those players. Those players visit the
Speaker 1: schools in the community, you see them on the streets
Speaker 1: like it. Just it helps kids dream or aspire to
Speaker 1: be greater than that which they see in there in
Speaker 1: the communities. Talking to Ray Allen, the Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: two time NBA champ, I'll give you a vote for
Speaker 1: the MVP. Who you're voting for in the NBA, UH,
Speaker 1: I will say, I'm voting for up to what I've seen.
Speaker 1: I'm going with. Indeed, did it change recently? Um the
Speaker 1: NBA so's It's difficult to put your finger on it
Speaker 1: because oftentimes when you're looking at UH these different pockets
Speaker 1: of the season, you know, each ten game stretched something
Speaker 1: different happens. So you start to think, over the period
Speaker 1: of eighty two games, who is the most consistent and
Speaker 1: on top of that, which team is the most successful.
Speaker 1: So I like to think that it's a difficult equation
Speaker 1: because any year it could be two or three guys
Speaker 1: that you can legitimately says the MVP, but then you
Speaker 1: also have to give the edge to that guy. I
Speaker 1: think the ultimate understanding is if you remove that player
Speaker 1: from the team, how good would that team be? Which
Speaker 1: it's a difficult idea to process because you know, a
Speaker 1: good team still has other players on them just as
Speaker 1: well that can help me win the championship. But the
Speaker 1: MVP removed from that team is also you lose that
Speaker 1: guy and you definitely won't be where you are, So,
Speaker 1: you know, Joke, it's just set definitely a close second
Speaker 1: because Denver's second or third in the NBA and in
Speaker 1: wins right now or in the Western Conference at least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would probably still give it to Joker because if
Speaker 1: you him away, they don't have an All star, you
Speaker 1: know Porter, you know Jamal is a good player. Those
Speaker 1: aren't all stars. Uh, ebiad still has hardened, and Harden's
Speaker 1: leading the NBA and assist and still is a great player. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jannis has a couple of All stars. Holiday and Middleton
Speaker 1: are both I think the Joker has done more with
Speaker 1: less on a consistent basis, and they have the best
Speaker 1: record in the West. But I think there's voter voter
Speaker 1: fatigue here, right, yeah, and right yeah, I agree with
Speaker 1: you when you think about Denver, most people when you
Speaker 1: talk about who votes for the VP, you know Denver
Speaker 1: a lot of times they get lost in the sauce
Speaker 1: because they are out West Jokish one two times already.
Speaker 1: So now he's almost a victim of his all success.
Speaker 1: I do believe just when you're throwing Be's name in there,
Speaker 1: you know, even with Hardened and Bead has had some
Speaker 1: some big game that he'd been very dominant, he's been
Speaker 1: very unstoppable. Uh. The one thing that you have to
Speaker 1: also protect against when you make these decisions is the
Speaker 1: league is a very stats driven league in today's era,
Speaker 1: so you have to also be careful of just looking
Speaker 1: at the guy's stats and saying, oh, he had this
Speaker 1: many points, it's many rebounds, as many assists. A lot
Speaker 1: of times it is an eye test too, looking at
Speaker 1: the player and just seeing because sometimes when you see
Speaker 1: a guy on the floor, that player's effect, you know,
Speaker 1: the ability to create double teams, to the ability to
Speaker 1: just change the game just for being out. And I
Speaker 1: don't even think it's a plus or minus thing, it's
Speaker 1: just the it's that that orror that that player has
Speaker 1: when they're out. On the floor, the confidence it gives
Speaker 1: to their their teammates, and you know, similar to us.
Speaker 1: I've had that. I'm sure that effect on teams. But
Speaker 1: then when I was in Boston, KG was that type
Speaker 1: of player because we were so much better with him
Speaker 1: on the floor because he did intimidate other players. So
Speaker 1: that too has an effect on How how did he intimidate? Uh,
Speaker 1: you need to pull up some video clip right now. Well,
Speaker 1: but but is it because he's yelling at them? I
Speaker 1: know his play would be intimidating, but well, I think
Speaker 1: all of the above because he he I think one
Speaker 1: his his his stature because you know, being seven feet
Speaker 1: tall and being long, and then and then you know,
Speaker 1: screaming and yelling and intimidating. Uh, just dunking the ball
Speaker 1: and screaming like a lot of younger kids that come
Speaker 1: in the league, that that intimidates. You gotta remember. I
Speaker 1: think about when I came into the league, the guys
Speaker 1: that intimidated me just by me being on the floor
Speaker 1: with them, MJ. Mitch Richmond, Reggie Miller, Uh, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Clyde Drexler. Uh, the list goes on. But how would
Speaker 1: they intimidate you? Was it just talent. Uh well, yeah, talent.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember too, you when you feel like you're
Speaker 1: in the situation where you and in some instances when
Speaker 1: you're young, you feel like you don't belong because you
Speaker 1: watch these guys played for so many years of your life,
Speaker 1: so now you're on the floor with them, like you
Speaker 1: When I first played against m J, I'm still I'm
Speaker 1: listening to their theme song when they run out onto
Speaker 1: the floor. I asked myself, how did I get in
Speaker 1: the TV? Like I remember sitting at home on the
Speaker 1: couch and you hear this, the Running of the Bulls
Speaker 1: song comes on, and now I'm sitting on the court
Speaker 1: live like I just somebody just snapped the finger on
Speaker 1: the inside. So you start to when you start thinking that, like, wow,
Speaker 1: am I even do I even belong here? So I
Speaker 1: think that trepidation. I think it does rest into everybody's
Speaker 1: minds when they first get into the league. And then
Speaker 1: there's a point where you have to say I'm one
Speaker 1: of these guys, like I can compete against them, and
Speaker 1: he actually also has to guard me as well. But
Speaker 1: did Jordan know that you were intimidated by him? Early? No? No,
Speaker 1: I had never met Jordan up to that point. So
Speaker 1: when when this was a preseason game, So when he
Speaker 1: came out to court, he said, congratulations, welcome to the NBA.
Speaker 1: And the first thing I thought, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this man knows my name. And that was the first
Speaker 1: stamp for me of having arrived, because this the greatest
Speaker 1: player of all times. He knows who I am in
Speaker 1: this game of basketball and the thing that I've learned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what did he do to you in the game. Well,
Speaker 1: it was preseason, so not a lot. I have to
Speaker 1: add that I scored nine points in the first quarter
Speaker 1: and I didn't know the coach took me out of
Speaker 1: the game and I didn't play anymore. And at that time,
Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't believe it. I was like
Speaker 1: I thought I was about to sport thirty and I
Speaker 1: didn't realize Like coach was already cool with me. He
Speaker 1: knew what I brought to the table. So then I
Speaker 1: sat for most of the game and he wanted to
Speaker 1: see what these other guys could do. So it was
Speaker 1: certainly one of those moments where I learned, you know,
Speaker 1: about minutes, you know. And then I had this conversation.
Speaker 1: We were in preseason game and it happened to be
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, and it was myself, Kevin Garnett and Stepan
Speaker 1: Marbury and we were in the locker room after a game.
Speaker 1: We were somewhere like Moline, Illinois or far going North Dakota,
Speaker 1: and we were just discussing how we were talking about
Speaker 1: how good we were because we were putting up numbers
Speaker 1: in preseason, and KG looks at us and goes, guys
Speaker 1: aren't playing hard. They don't play harden, don't, don't, don't.
Speaker 1: Don't get all beside youself thinking that you're great. Yet
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are just going through the motions.
Speaker 1: And I did learn that, like it's just kind of
Speaker 1: feeling out process in the preseason. All right, I have
Speaker 1: a guy that works here, Marvin and lifelong Yukon Penn
Speaker 1: went to Yukon went to your basketball camp. Anything else
Speaker 1: you want to tell ray Allen Marvin, Yeah, him and
Speaker 1: Ben Baker used to have those celebrity tournaments, those celebrity
Speaker 1: games at the hard Percivic Center. Raya hold Camp went
Speaker 1: to all that, I didn't listen to you when you've
Speaker 1: showing us to shoot emotions. But big fan, why did
Speaker 1: you listen? Marvin? I don't understand. I was giving you
Speaker 1: some nuggets and you didn't listen. Ray, He shoots like
Speaker 1: Anthony Mason, Oh, I mean see, you didn't listen to Marvin.
Speaker 1: We could have listen. Okay, Okay, it's the blueprint. We
Speaker 1: need some help here, Ray, because let's say Yukon wins.
Speaker 1: Marvin would like to go to the parade. Okay, Like
Speaker 1: he wants to be in the parade, And what qualification
Speaker 1: does he have to be in the parade? Well, he's
Speaker 1: on my show, so he's around a great shooter who
Speaker 1: knows basketball, and he went to Yukon. What do you need?
Speaker 1: I think based on those qualifications, he definitely can be
Speaker 1: at the parade. Okay, okay, okay. But but here's the
Speaker 1: beautiful thing, Marvin. You live in Connecticut. You what do Yukon?
Speaker 1: It's it's not really a parade. In college, you just
Speaker 1: show up and you see the guys come down. You
Speaker 1: go to the arena and you just sit there and
Speaker 1: you celebrate the guys. Like, what more can you ask for? It?
Speaker 1: Maybe be on stage? Can't do that right? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Marvin, Uh, what do you think it's a
Speaker 1: better chance Seattle gets an NBA team or Marvin would
Speaker 1: be in the parade, he'd be part of the ceremony.
Speaker 1: M I would have to say that, uh, Marvin, Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: get a team before you get on that mar Marv truck.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm asking Ray right here. I'm trying. Hey, No,
Speaker 1: it's all good. I'm talking to Ray Allen. So I
Speaker 1: can quit the show. I can do all that right now. No,
Speaker 1: you're quitting the show. No, no no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Don't quit, Marvin, don't no, no no, no, I
Speaker 1: won't come every month. You know what, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: ahold of the Shaman's napier. He could probably help you
Speaker 1: get you know, somebody like that. It could get He's
Speaker 1: got some juice there. What do you think? There's this
Speaker 1: guy named Yes. Do not answer the phone if Marvin calls. Okay,
Speaker 1: so sorry, sebassand Apierre not gonna take your call either.
Speaker 1: Mark Khalid al Amine can get you into that parade. Ray,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Good luck with you with
Speaker 1: your husky. Sorry, great to talk to you. So let's
Speaker 1: do it all right? That's Ray Allen. Yeah, two time
Speaker 1: NBA champ. I love that hoodie, Seattle supersunic Let's take
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Speaker 1: Texas Oval. IndyCar heads to Texas Motor Speedway April two,
Speaker 1: all the action on NBC and Peacock. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the numbers here of now, Jay Billis joined us in
Speaker 1: the first hour, and he said that he wasn't surprised
Speaker 1: at the final four looks like it does. One out
Speaker 1: of every six hundred thousand brackets predicted the final four
Speaker 1: correctly in the men's Bracket Challenge game. One of those people,
Speaker 1: one of the great college basketball minds in America, the
Speaker 1: Guru bracketologist, Seaton's wife Aaron, joins us on the program. Eron,
Speaker 1: I know you're is he probably fielding a lot of
Speaker 1: calls from around the world, But congratulations so far you've
Speaker 1: got Yukon winning at all. So could you walk us
Speaker 1: through the philosophy that brought you to this unbelievable final four? Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I did want to let you
Speaker 1: know that I planned on giving you the exclusive as
Speaker 1: as these scores were coming in over the weekend, because
Speaker 1: you know, we've been friends for a while. But as
Speaker 1: I explained to Seaton earlier, that this tournament is just
Speaker 1: all about guard play. Okay, senior guard play a lot
Speaker 1: of times too, Yeah, senior guard vibes that. Okay, give
Speaker 1: us an idea of how you came up with these
Speaker 1: four schools to meet in the final four. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I was getting my son ready for school,
Speaker 1: so being distracted is probably the number one thing that
Speaker 1: I did. And then I just kind of went to
Speaker 1: places that I've lived. I lived in San Diego, I've
Speaker 1: lived in Miami, I currently live in Connecticut. And then
Speaker 1: I added the extra Florida in there, because I spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in Florida. So okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: All right. Not many people would probably take that, Raychanel,
Speaker 1: but I think now we have the blueprint moving forward
Speaker 1: for March madness. How is your status in your household
Speaker 1: with your husband and your son now that you're one
Speaker 1: of the very very very very very few people in
Speaker 1: the world who's pulled this off. Well, that was something
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention. I was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a joke in the household when I first when oh wow, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: my son thought I was hysterical and and Seton was
Speaker 1: really he was actually very encouraging. He says, Oh, no,
Speaker 1: this is how you do it. You just you just
Speaker 1: wing it, And I say, then, over the course of
Speaker 1: the tournament, I could tell that my son was getting
Speaker 1: quite competitive and a little angry that mom was starting
Speaker 1: to do better than he was, and now over this
Speaker 1: past weekend I think he had a little change of
Speaker 1: heart and thought, wow, that's pretty cool, how hysterical, but
Speaker 1: also how awesome that mom's winning. So yeah, how long
Speaker 1: are you going to hold this over? Though? Oh? As
Speaker 1: long as I can. Well, you know you got Connecticut
Speaker 1: winning at all, so that if that happens, I would
Speaker 1: say you would probably should be invited to the parade,
Speaker 1: the Yukon Parade. I agree with you, I absolutely should me. Well, yes, Paul, Aaron,
Speaker 1: I know you're real busy, but as any chance we
Speaker 1: get some Master's picks, I want to call my guy.
Speaker 1: Are you making other predictions? Aaron? Oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: I probably can, but I would need to be I
Speaker 1: at least have to know who didn't the Master's Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's fine. Yeah, maybe you don't have to.
Speaker 1: You didn't know who was in March Madness until they,
Speaker 1: you know, put it in front of your seat. And
Speaker 1: are you okay with your wife being the sports expert
Speaker 1: in your family? I honestly I thought that was clear
Speaker 1: long before today. It was to us, We didn't know
Speaker 1: if it was to you, I mean, anybody who knows
Speaker 1: or knows. Yeah, Aaron I would, I would do this
Speaker 1: as a walk off. I don't know if I'd fill
Speaker 1: out another bracket. This is only the second bracket I've
Speaker 1: ever filled out. Okay, that's pretty ever. You're you're in
Speaker 1: the smallest of smallest percentiles in the United States with
Speaker 1: thousand millions of people who submitted brackets, and you're there, like,
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. I don't care how you came up
Speaker 1: with it, it's still pretty damn impressive. Well, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. How about a round of applause? Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the tournament. And uh and thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us and interrupting your busy day. Well, thank you,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Okay, that's seen O'Connor's wife, Aaron Yeah, yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: she's the Rains of Beauty and the Basketball. By the way,
Speaker 1: the pre tournament title odds Connecticut plus two thousand, Miami
Speaker 1: plus forty one thousand or four hundred or four thousand,
Speaker 1: should say so, Yukon plus two thousand, Miami four thousand,
Speaker 1: San Diego State eight thousand, Florida Atlantic plus twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: How can j Billis say, you know, I'm not that
Speaker 1: surprised you gotta be surprised at Florida Atlantic. I mean
Speaker 1: it's not surprised San Diego State, Miami. I'm surprised, But
Speaker 1: it takes and it took other schools knocking off teams
Speaker 1: that you would expect to be here. Look, last year
Speaker 1: we had blue bloods, we had Villanova, Duke, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: Kansas like that. That's what we expect with the final four.
Speaker 1: Not this year. So I think this is, you know,
Speaker 1: an anomal it happened. Got some of these schools where
Speaker 1: you got older players transfer portal extra year with COVID,
Speaker 1: and you had some of these teams that I watched Houston,
Speaker 1: I never thought wow, Alabama. At times you'd go wow, Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Connecticut started great and they were number one, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like whoa big East you know,
Speaker 1: Conference play beat him up a little bit there, but
Speaker 1: this is a this is a really good team, no
Speaker 1: matter what the year, this is a good team. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have marquee players, and you know, we get caught
Speaker 1: up in that and you see there's a freshman, maybe
Speaker 1: a sophomore, maybe there's the reigning player of the year,
Speaker 1: maybe there's somebody who's an All American. You don't have that.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of transfers, you got a lot
Speaker 1: of older player, you got one freshman that was left
Speaker 1: in the elite eight as in the starting lineup. Yes. Eton.
Speaker 1: When I got in this morning, Mario was you know
Speaker 1: he organizes the brackets. Yeah. He was just like, did
Speaker 1: your wife submit one? And I said yeah, And so
Speaker 1: he went through the whole final four. He sent me
Speaker 1: a thing that said a one hundred dollars parlay of
Speaker 1: San Diego State, Florida, Atlantic, Miami and Yukon a one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars bet would have paid off just about nine
Speaker 1: million dollars, nine million dollars. Would you have quit the show?
Speaker 1: Oh we're up against a break? Oh sorry, I'll have to.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't more meet Friday. I would have said, hey,
Speaker 1: go get a man, see you later, see you later.
Speaker 1: Opening the Mediterranean branch of the show. Just getting us
Speaker 1: over together, corresponded, Final hour coming up, more phone calls,
Speaker 1: update the poll results. Glad you have you a part
Speaker 1: of the program on this Monday, Dan Patrick Show,