Speaker 1: Cheese man, Bonchinche bon chinch boch.
Speaker 2: More Better, More Better, More.
Speaker 3: Better, More.
Speaker 1: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending
Speaker 1: to have it all together and embrace the journey of
Speaker 1: becoming a little more better every day.
Speaker 2: Or at least trying to. Yeah. That's moll supher marrow
Speaker 2: and that's Stephanie Beatrice. And here we are, guys, we're back.
Speaker 2: We are back talking more ship.
Speaker 1: That's essentially, if you've been listening to this podcast for
Speaker 1: a while, you were quickly realizing that that's what this is.
Speaker 2: We're just talking a lot of ship, trying to figure
Speaker 2: shit out. Yep, you know what I mean, just trying
Speaker 2: to we're doing. How are you? I'm good, friend, I'm good.
Speaker 2: How are you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you know it's going
Speaker 2: all right, it's going okay. What have you done lately?
Speaker 2: That's a little more better? Oh man? I since my trip.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of rest on my trip, and
Speaker 3: I have been in a few days. I've been home
Speaker 3: very productive, and I'm thinking about some projects in my
Speaker 3: house that I want to do, like organizing projects and
Speaker 3: like purging projects.
Speaker 2: Yuck. Well, I do love a purge. I love a
Speaker 2: purge and I love a purge because it's room to
Speaker 2: buy new shit.
Speaker 3: Pre trip, I was too I think, like stressed and
Speaker 3: treading water. That every time I would come across that
Speaker 3: closet that needs to be overhauled or whatever, that drawer,
Speaker 3: that junk drawer that needs to be cleaned out, I
Speaker 3: would just like close it and I couldn't even deal
Speaker 3: with it. And now I think, because I had a
Speaker 3: little bit of a rest, I'm like, cool, I'm excited
Speaker 3: to like tackle this and make total space and just
Speaker 3: like organize some shit, and I'm excited about it. So
Speaker 3: that's my little bit of more better is that I'm
Speaker 3: finally just like, that's nice figuring that out.
Speaker 2: How about you anything lately staying that you've done that's
Speaker 2: more better? Girl? I got myself a splint. Have I
Speaker 2: talked about this? No?
Speaker 1: Okay, So in general, my dental health is much better,
Speaker 1: I think because I don't know about you, but I'm
Speaker 1: not I'll admit it. I'm not a good flosser. I
Speaker 1: don't do it enough.
Speaker 3: I'm not a good flosser either. No, but you know what,
Speaker 3: I think it's totally not our fault. We did not
Speaker 3: grow up with lossing. I am baddy at it.
Speaker 2: I did not grow up with flossing. No, my parents
Speaker 2: did not lost No.
Speaker 1: Subsequently, I will say not to be a downer, but
Speaker 1: like when my dad was dying, he made me promise
Speaker 1: him that I would take good care.
Speaker 2: Of my teeth, his teeth.
Speaker 1: He like made me promise, which is really sweet, and
Speaker 1: so it actively has made me. I know, well, because
Speaker 1: it's connected to like your heart health and overall your
Speaker 1: gum health is all. I went for a cleaning and
Speaker 1: then my doctor was like, you need a scaling, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what the oh yes I remember the
Speaker 1: scaling scaling, yes, yes, So anyway, then I also got
Speaker 1: fitted for a splint, which is I I grind my
Speaker 1: teeth that night and like subsequently, one side of my
Speaker 1: jaw is bigger than the other.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: So I've been wearing my splint and it's really that
Speaker 1: like a mouth guard, really good. It looks stupid, like
Speaker 1: I looked like I'm gonna go play hockey or and
Speaker 1: I talk like left when I have it in, so
Speaker 1: like it's like I feel like said the sloth when
Speaker 1: I have it in. Yeah, it's not conducive to sexy
Speaker 1: time at all, because like.
Speaker 2: Kissing your partner.
Speaker 1: Good night with that in your mouth is whoo. But
Speaker 1: my I do wake up with a relaxed jaw.
Speaker 2: My husband has one of those two and yeah, does
Speaker 2: it wear it? He does, he does. It's goofy looking,
Speaker 2: but yeah.
Speaker 3: He he usually waits to see, like, are just We're
Speaker 3: just gonna go to sleep tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my thing in, Like.
Speaker 1: See, I have to put mine in half an hour
Speaker 1: before I go to sleep. So the bedroom and stuff
Speaker 1: like that's tricky.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know his is just that you're different than his.
Speaker 1: Is just a mouthguard that he has to sleep with
Speaker 1: so that he doesn't mind mouth guard.
Speaker 2: But but why do you have to put it in
Speaker 2: a half hour? I have to because otherwise I take
Speaker 2: it out in the night and it's in the.
Speaker 1: Bed, which is also not conducd with to sex. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gross mouthguard in their breaking in the middle of their bed.
Speaker 2: So I do that in your sleep? You take it out?
Speaker 3: When I had him, bisi line, I would find my
Speaker 3: trays in my bed and I have no recollection taking
Speaker 3: them out, but I would just.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, yeah, out in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night. Yep.
Speaker 1: So if I leave it in if I put it
Speaker 1: in half an hour before to go to bed, I'm
Speaker 1: way less likely to take it out because my mouth
Speaker 1: is kind.
Speaker 2: Of used to it by then. Interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been I've been flossing like a mofo.
Speaker 1: I've been wearing my splint. I'm feeling more relaxed in
Speaker 1: the morning when I wake up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more better. Okay, So what are we talking about today?
Speaker 3: We're talking about gossip today. Were diving into the topic
Speaker 3: of gossip. My favorite or some as as some may
Speaker 3: call it cheese may.
Speaker 2: What do you call it? Cheese may bonchinch bon chiche
Speaker 2: Never heard that until you told me about it. Guys,
Speaker 2: tell us what your what your gossip words are? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what we call it. To us what your gossip
Speaker 2: words are, because we want to know. Are they different
Speaker 2: in different places? Oh? Yeah, I want to know different languages?
Speaker 2: What is gossip? What is the gossip term?
Speaker 1: All over the world, spilling the tea became very popular
Speaker 1: thanks to the black community and many a drag queen
Speaker 1: and the gay community.
Speaker 2: I actually don't know the actual origin of the spilling
Speaker 2: the tea, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Origin of it, but I'm imagining as all cool things.
Speaker 1: It came from the black community and the LGBTQ community. Oh,
Speaker 1: they are the culture makers, the taste makers of all things.
Speaker 1: Isis what up isis?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: It says, spill the tea originated in black, gay and
Speaker 4: drag culture. So you're right, stuff, What.
Speaker 2: Did I say? Nailed it?
Speaker 1: Black people, gay people, drag culture. They do everything better.
Speaker 4: They spell it with just the letter T. It says.
Speaker 4: Spilling Tea for Ruth can be seen in nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: four is Midnight and the Garden of Good and Evil
Speaker 4: by John Burrent, which featured a transgender character who spilled
Speaker 4: the tea in sharing gossip.
Speaker 2: I love cool. I didn't know that it was tea
Speaker 2: for truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so at some point it became teach yeah.
Speaker 2: And then it just became tea tea. I love that.
Speaker 2: I love it. I do love that phrase.
Speaker 3: I love when sometimes we get together and it's like,
Speaker 3: you got any tea, any tea?
Speaker 1: Well, what is the juiciest piece of gossip you've ever heard?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: It's hard because gossip is can be incredibly private, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I have gotten juicy tips of like someone being secretly
Speaker 3: pregnant when they got married.
Speaker 2: Uh, the way you do just inale just like a
Speaker 2: triple gas. Wow, I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, identities protected, identities protected adultery. Uh like finding out
Speaker 3: before Oh awful?
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, give me more. You have to
Speaker 2: actually give it though. Yeah, you can't just be like mmmm,
Speaker 2: that was awful. I know I'm being I know, I know,
Speaker 2: I don't. Do you have a juicy what's the juiciest?
Speaker 1: Before I started acting in La not before I started acting,
Speaker 1: but before I got a good job in La acting,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I had to pay my bills.
Speaker 1: So I was working at a workout studio. First I
Speaker 1: worked the front desk in exchange for classes, and then
Speaker 1: I took so many classes that I got to be
Speaker 1: really really good at it. And then I auditioned to
Speaker 1: be an instructor, and I was an instructor there, and
Speaker 1: there was so much gossip around the owners of that studio.
Speaker 2: There was like there was stuff about her past and
Speaker 2: like what kind of.
Speaker 1: You know, there was dabbling and like listen, there was
Speaker 1: dabbling in sex work there, which is you know, its
Speaker 1: own kind of work.
Speaker 2: But there was also like hiding that there was.
Speaker 1: Trips that that family would because it was family owned,
Speaker 1: there were like trips that that family would take to
Speaker 1: the south of France for months while the instructors paychecks
Speaker 1: were bouncing because there wasn't they weren't getting paid, Like
Speaker 1: they would go and put their checks in and like
Speaker 1: there was nothing in the account for them.
Speaker 2: There was.
Speaker 1: There was a time when I, as a I was
Speaker 1: working the desk still, and there was a time when
Speaker 1: there was this client that we had that was an
Speaker 1: amazing client.
Speaker 2: She was really really great, fabulous. She was just she
Speaker 2: would she was there every day.
Speaker 1: She she and I had talked a lot because she
Speaker 1: was sober actually, and she talked about how exercise really
Speaker 1: like grounded her and helped her and just really sweet girl,
Speaker 1: covered in tattoos, just a really lovely person. And I
Speaker 1: got to know her over the year that I was there.
Speaker 1: And so one time, you know, I was allowed to
Speaker 1: take class, Like if my shift was over, I would
Speaker 1: just lock the front door and I would go take
Speaker 1: the last class of the day. And she that girl
Speaker 1: was like, I just have a couple emails to answer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like sit in the lobby. And I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you sit in the lobby. I'm gonna go take class.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock the door whatever. I locked everything up,
Speaker 1: you know, like locked up the cabinets whatever. The owner
Speaker 1: came in while I was in class and she was
Speaker 1: in the lobby, and then after class she was like,
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you, and she took me
Speaker 1: into the other studio and screamed at me and said
Speaker 1: all this stuff about how that girl wasn't She was like,
Speaker 1: that girl's an addict.
Speaker 2: We don't know she stealing from us. Like meanwhile, that's
Speaker 2: one of.
Speaker 1: Her best clients, like took privates, like was like a
Speaker 1: super high up member, like you know, like.
Speaker 2: Unlimited classes whatever.
Speaker 1: She paid like a premium rate and stuff, and like
Speaker 1: she talked so much shit about her.
Speaker 2: I mean it was she was not cool. She was
Speaker 2: not cool. She was not a cool person. Anyway. There
Speaker 2: was all this like gossip and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then there the studios were like franchising and opening everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like you know, people were not getting paid, people
Speaker 1: were doing work.
Speaker 2: That they shouldn't have been doing.
Speaker 1: The husband of the studio owner was like him, like
Speaker 1: there was rumor about like him hitting on different instructors
Speaker 1: getic of their ads.
Speaker 2: Was kind of getting crazy.
Speaker 1: And then they opened a studio in another state and
Speaker 1: like you could franchise and whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, And
Speaker 1: then the whole thing folded. The whole thing folded, and
Speaker 1: there was one like uzz feed article or something with
Speaker 1: like a small investigation into it, but nobody ever did
Speaker 1: a deep dive. But I think because none of the
Speaker 1: instructors wanted to say, you know who it was or
Speaker 1: accused them of anything or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it was crazy anyway, that's my thing.
Speaker 1: What a wild And they they ended up opening like
Speaker 1: a totally different studio, like another workout studio, a smaller
Speaker 1: one that like, you know, it's still they're flying under
Speaker 1: the radar with it, but they've.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know the instructors.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Yep. That is juicy. That's juicy, right, that is I mean, like,
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Gossip is fun. You get really good
Speaker 2: piece of gossip.
Speaker 3: You're just like, oh, like good, I am so happy
Speaker 3: that I know this information, even though it's nothing to
Speaker 3: do with me and it doesn't like affect my life
Speaker 3: at all, but I just.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I mean sometimes it can be really bad.
Speaker 2: Ye Like, it also can be bad. Mean mean, yes,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: People get hurt twisted, you know, false, especially because like
Speaker 1: oh I heard this, and I heard that, and then
Speaker 1: you spread that and then it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that person is you know, a monster when like.
Speaker 2: Maybe they just feel like a gossip or something.
Speaker 3: I feel like a gossip red flag for me is
Speaker 3: when someone starts a piece of gossip with like I
Speaker 3: heard is like I don't want I don't want second
Speaker 3: third hand accounts, Like I immediately go like, okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna want to I want first hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I kind of like immediately don't. I don't I
Speaker 3: discredited a little bit, you know, I'm just right. I
Speaker 3: just feel that it's take it, take it with a
Speaker 3: great assault. But if someone's like, oh, you know, yesterday,
Speaker 3: I so and so, you know something, that's a little
Speaker 3: bit closer than.
Speaker 2: Like I'm in I'm in in with you in the gossip.
Speaker 2: Give it to me, right bye, Right, Okay.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of parts of this, right because like gossiping, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a way of exchanging information. It's a way of
Speaker 1: feeling close to other people because now you have like
Speaker 1: a shared story or a shared secret. Yes, you know
Speaker 1: it bonds people, yes, And like there's just spaces where
Speaker 1: there's shit talking that happens, you know, like whether it's
Speaker 1: between family members holidays, whether it's like in the nail salon,
Speaker 1: whether it's in the break room at work, whether it's
Speaker 1: like you know, and it's and it's there's just shit
Speaker 1: talking that. But it's not just us, it's men too,
Speaker 1: write like barbershops are great places for gossip. Guys gossip,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Talk about people they don't like.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, this shit talking, which is
Speaker 3: essentially gossip, is proceed with caution, but it also can
Speaker 3: be valuable in giving you a heads up that some
Speaker 3: person is shit.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that is absolutely valid. You know.
Speaker 3: I think it's I say proceed with caution because I
Speaker 3: think you have to kind of evaluate like where what
Speaker 3: exactly the gossip is or what the story is, and
Speaker 3: like what the person's intentions telling it are.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you can.
Speaker 3: But I think it's sometimes pretty clear that like someone
Speaker 3: is just shit talking someone because they're jealous of them,
Speaker 3: or they don't like them or something like that. Sometimes
Speaker 3: it feels pretty obvious to me, but if I get
Speaker 3: a piece of them most of the time, most of
Speaker 3: the time, but if someone is telling a story about
Speaker 3: someone who like truly did something awful, is like, that's
Speaker 3: that's important information for me to have to steer clear
Speaker 3: of that person or not work with that person. Like
Speaker 3: that's something I've started to do too. If I'm, you know,
Speaker 3: about to go into something with someone I've never worked
Speaker 3: with before, I'll try to ask around.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, hey, yeah, I want to never.
Speaker 3: Heard of anything about this person or this actor or
Speaker 3: this writer experience with them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are there? What are they're? Like everybody
Speaker 2: tosks in this industry.
Speaker 3: I mean, give me the tea, give me the ta
Speaker 3: How he asks a couple people and get a read
Speaker 3: from someone of like oh I heard they're nice, or
Speaker 3: oh I heard they're really difficult or I heard their shit,
Speaker 3: like yeah, and then you know what you're walking into.
Speaker 3: So I think that that that exchange of information can
Speaker 3: be really powerful.
Speaker 1: I just made a face though, because like sometimes, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know myself and I've certainly had moments where they're
Speaker 1: not my finest moment, And like if you asked someone
Speaker 1: that dealt with me that period of time, they'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's a fucking bitch.
Speaker 2: I didn't like her and she's whatever, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Like, No, certainly had days where but everybody had.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think unless like somebody was present for an
Speaker 3: off day for you for just that one day, okay maybe,
Speaker 3: but as.
Speaker 2: A whole, like we all have off day. Once when
Speaker 2: I was shadowing someone.
Speaker 1: Once when I was shadowing someone, uh for directing, I
Speaker 1: was sitting at the monitors with them, them and the
Speaker 1: writer whatever, and I just like I couldnot keep my
Speaker 1: eyes open. I couldnot keep my eyes open, and I
Speaker 1: fell asleep sitting up. And I know they saw me.
Speaker 1: I know they did. I know they didn't.
Speaker 2: So like if you were to ask them like, oh,
Speaker 2: what kind of like you know, how how is she
Speaker 2: like on set?
Speaker 1: Or do you like her or whatever, they'd be like,
Speaker 1: I mean she fell asleep at the monitor that I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something.
Speaker 2: They don't think I'm good.
Speaker 3: Maybe they gave you the benefit of the day, like, oh,
Speaker 3: she must have had a rough night.
Speaker 1: If somebody was shadowing you and then you looked over
Speaker 1: and they were fucking asleep, what would you think.
Speaker 3: I'd be hell annoyed. I'd be like some bullshit, Get
Speaker 3: some coffee, girls.
Speaker 1: I'm awake and I'm working, suck it up. Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: M so Grain of salt.
Speaker 1: You guys, don't judge me for falling asleep at work. God,
Speaker 1: it was really embarrassing. It's really embarrassing because like I
Speaker 1: startled awake and I saw them looking at me, and
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, oh no, did you do like A No,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think so shit, maybe I did.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Damn fuck, that would be so embarrassing. God, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's some people out there that don't like me and
Speaker 1: gossip shit about me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know I'm saying, Listen, there's a lot of growth
Speaker 3: come along with this job. So did you grow up
Speaker 3: with gossip? Like, did you with gossip a part of
Speaker 3: your Yeah? And I feel like if you're Latino, like
Speaker 3: my god, a given, I think.
Speaker 2: Everyone everyone, Yeah, everybody's part. Yes, I remember.
Speaker 3: There's like a there's like a family phone tree that
Speaker 3: happens in my family.
Speaker 2: So like when.
Speaker 3: Something happens, my mom is like I'm waiting for the
Speaker 3: call from so and so, do you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like to find out what happened and then it's and
Speaker 3: I just grew up with that all the time of
Speaker 3: like you know, it's like almost you hear the the
Speaker 3: heads up of like some shit went down or so
Speaker 3: and so we're in a fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know why, totaling for the call.
Speaker 3: And then we get the call from the DIA that
Speaker 3: talk to the other DIA that talked to the cousin
Speaker 3: that talk to the cousin who saw that cousin that
Speaker 3: day and saw what happened. And then it just like
Speaker 3: goes through all these people and yeah, and then the
Speaker 3: same like with my mom, if something happened on our end,
Speaker 3: she'd be like, oh, I got a call so and
Speaker 3: so and so and so so they could call and
Speaker 3: then and it's just like this little bone tree that happens.
Speaker 3: And I just grew up with that being like very normal.
Speaker 3: And I think it still happens in my family.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I cannot and I and I find
Speaker 1: everyone's in each other's business, and with my close group
Speaker 1: of friends, especially when I lived in New York, I
Speaker 1: think that definitely.
Speaker 2: Like I adopted that, like.
Speaker 3: Oh, some shit just went down, I'm gonna call so
Speaker 3: and so and then sometimes and that who knows what
Speaker 3: In that conversation, you go, hey, I don't I don't
Speaker 3: feel like repeating the story, So can you call so
Speaker 3: and so and tell them what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 1: That community building thing too, because like when you know
Speaker 1: people's business, it makes you feel closer to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it is like a community thing, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think I, you know, neighborhood gossip is another
Speaker 3: also PS We've said this before.
Speaker 2: I do love gossip.
Speaker 3: I think I enjoy gossip that you know, we're talking
Speaker 3: about like good, clean, old fashioned, scandalous gods gossip.
Speaker 2: I mean that.
Speaker 3: I think that's why we're not trying to like her
Speaker 3: anybody's lives.
Speaker 1: But social media is so funny that way, because like
Speaker 1: I did remove TikTok.
Speaker 2: From my phone again, But what I'm getting fed.
Speaker 1: In my in my for you page is always like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what happened in this small town in Alabama,
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't know anybody here, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what went down anyway, and it will
Speaker 1: be like some long story about how somebody's you know.
Speaker 2: There was one that I followed for a while.
Speaker 1: It was like this awful story about this woman whose
Speaker 1: husband was cheating on her and she found out that was.
Speaker 2: With her mom is.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and she like her mom had
Speaker 1: gotten and her mom the whole time, I think, was
Speaker 1: like telling her about people have people.
Speaker 2: I'm getting this wrong, but like see I'm getting it wrong.
Speaker 1: But like I think what happened was her mom was
Speaker 1: like I'm dating this new person and like telling her
Speaker 1: daughter all about it and stuff and like and she
Speaker 1: ended up getting like a tattoo and it was the guy's.
Speaker 2: Initials and she was like, oh, that's weird. That's my
Speaker 2: husband's initials. And she's like, yeah, that's such a coincidence.
Speaker 1: And then like wait, the mom never met the husband. No,
Speaker 1: the mom the mom was cheating with.
Speaker 2: The daughter's husband.
Speaker 3: Oh, but like knew that sends her husband and was
Speaker 3: telling her she knew it was her husband.
Speaker 2: They were like cheating in their hats. Psychotic.
Speaker 1: I am not gonna argue with you, but I loved
Speaker 1: listening to the story.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: I was like with my popcorn, just like yes, give
Speaker 1: me more, you know, like I.
Speaker 2: Just think that something is so crazy.
Speaker 1: The craziest stories, the things that like if you were
Speaker 1: to write it in a script and you've heard this before,
Speaker 1: but like if you were to write it, no one
Speaker 1: would believe it. Everybody in the writer's room would veto it,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just so in, so out there
Speaker 1: fucking saying.
Speaker 3: You see the thing that went viral a few days
Speaker 3: ago of a woman posted a picture of a man
Speaker 3: on an airplane and she was like, if.
Speaker 2: This is your husband, just know he's flying. Did you
Speaker 2: see He's flying from San Jose to Miami?
Speaker 3: And if this is your husband, he is probably spending
Speaker 3: the night going home with this this girl.
Speaker 2: That he met at the airport bar.
Speaker 3: And they even switched seats to sit next to each other,
Speaker 3: and like, your man is gonna cheat on you tonight.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I ate it up.
Speaker 3: And I was like, also, kudos to that woman looking
Speaker 3: out for some other woman that she doesn't know to
Speaker 3: be like, man is out here being a douche good.
Speaker 2: That makes me so sick. It's just like it's so scary.
Speaker 2: It's so scary.
Speaker 1: And then like one of the things that's really scary
Speaker 1: is like, you know, gossip spreading that person had that
Speaker 1: person's best interest at heart, But what happens when somebody
Speaker 1: doesn't have someone's best interest at heart and he's like
Speaker 1: spreading gossip, you know, like we've all been victim to
Speaker 1: reading the gossip columns, and like you know, Britney Spears
Speaker 1: is a perfect example of everybody gossiped about her. We
Speaker 1: sold so many magazines, we took pictures of her, we
Speaker 1: did this and that and the other, and like we
Speaker 1: scarred her. We scarred her, you know, and we affected
Speaker 1: her life.
Speaker 3: I would love, yeah, I would love to see all
Speaker 3: the gossip columns and magazines just like go away, because
Speaker 3: it's just it's just bad for humanity and just hurts people.
Speaker 2: I do subscribe to US Weekly. I love it. I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: I love it rumors and just oh my god, they've
Speaker 3: done to so many Jen Aniston, like so many.
Speaker 2: Well listen, I don't that that part of it was horrible.
Speaker 3: And they're always there are always women that they're like
Speaker 3: I went down to sell papers.
Speaker 1: I want to know your enemy, you know, in the
Speaker 1: words of Rage against the Machine, know your enemy, know
Speaker 1: them inside out, you know, like I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I see I read it, and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of it is like is this being sold to me?
Speaker 1: And if so, why you know who's paying? And like,
Speaker 1: as someone who's in this industry, now, like I can
Speaker 1: tell you guys, all those people that you see in
Speaker 1: the gossam columns or like in those magazines.
Speaker 2: They all have publicists that they're paying like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's thousands hard Like yes, that's like that part
Speaker 1: some hundreds of thousands of dollars to be placed in
Speaker 1: those magazines to have certain things said about them, to
Speaker 1: get good press or bad press. They've got relationships with
Speaker 1: those called gossip columnsts.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: My husband was good friends with someone who was a
Speaker 3: GM at a very at like a celebrity hot spot
Speaker 3: kind of restaurant in La and he would tell us
Speaker 3: he would be he would say, oh, the public He
Speaker 3: was like, half the time the publics call the paparazzi
Speaker 3: yeah and say so.
Speaker 2: And so I was having dinner here tonight.
Speaker 1: He was like, there's always oh my god, totally and
Speaker 1: then they you know, I was doing a play and
Speaker 1: like we were having drinks at a bar and then
Speaker 1: we walked out and there were all these paparazzi and
Speaker 1: afterwards another friend that was in the play, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they those those people that came and saw the play
Speaker 1: tonight that we were like at the bar having drinks
Speaker 1: with they called the pops Like I'm friends with them
Speaker 1: they called the paparazzi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like what, like it was crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also in my mind was thinking like wow, they
Speaker 1: look really really great, right, and she has like a
Speaker 1: full face of makeup on to just like go see
Speaker 1: a play.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy, or like to go to dinner just
Speaker 2: like super looking, super hot to go to a bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like more power to them, but like wow,
Speaker 1: it's you know, like it's all there's machine happening. That's
Speaker 1: also why I like to post on social media when
Speaker 1: I am on there. It's like you post the highlights, right,
Speaker 1: but I also often post the low lights. I understand that,
Speaker 1: like everybody wants a curated version of themselves so that
Speaker 1: no one will talk shit. But people are gonna talk
Speaker 1: shit anyway, So what's the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah? More better.
Speaker 4: Better?
Speaker 2: Okay, So you want to talk about the study that
Speaker 2: you read about.
Speaker 3: Yes, so, our amazing producer Isis sent this study. It
Speaker 3: was a Dartmouth dar Dartmouth. Oh my god, how do
Speaker 3: you say that? Dartmouth, Dartmouth, dart mounth out, Dartmouth, myth,
Speaker 3: Dartmouth study, Dartmouth, thank you? Isis Dartmouth, Dartmouth Dartmouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dartmouth, yea Dartmouth, even though it's spelled like dart Mouth.
Speaker 3: You guys, pecan pecan anyway, Dartmouth. Study, Uh, that gossip
Speaker 3: is good. So they set up this game essentially in
Speaker 3: this study where trying to remember the details, but the
Speaker 3: participants had they gave them ten dollars and they could
Speaker 3: and they had the choice to just keep their money
Speaker 3: or they could invest some of the money in like
Speaker 3: a community kind of fund and it would be invested
Speaker 3: and then dispersed throughout the group equally.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Once and then at a certain point, I think during
Speaker 3: the game, they allowed the participants to privately message each other,
Speaker 3: and what ended up happening was gossip exchanging information about
Speaker 3: who was contributing, who was just flying easy way yay
Speaker 3: yea holding on to their money, waiting to just like
Speaker 3: get more money from the group.
Speaker 2: And you know, it increased participation in the game.
Speaker 3: It increased collaboration and community, and it also like the
Speaker 3: group kind of like weeded out some sucos that were.
Speaker 2: In the in the group that we're just free loading.
Speaker 3: Nice and so it made the point that you know,
Speaker 3: in certain scenarios, gossip can be really powerful, and it
Speaker 3: made me think of professionally, like in the workplace, I
Speaker 3: you know, like I said before, gossiping about certain personalities.
Speaker 3: Also sharing, I mean, I don't know if this is
Speaker 3: considered gossip, but like sharing what you're getting paid can
Speaker 3: be really powerful. Sharing what you got in your deal
Speaker 3: or your writer or what extra little things you got,
Speaker 3: especially for women, I think can be incredibly powerful. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as we all like fight for a more equal slice
Speaker 3: of the pie, if you will, and so yeah, and
Speaker 3: it said. The researchers explain that gossip should not be
Speaker 3: relegated to just baseless trash talk excuse me sorry.
Speaker 2: According to the.
Speaker 3: Paper, the team's findings on the role of gossip are
Speaker 3: consistent with creating a shared reality in which friends and
Speaker 3: colleagues often find common bonds, establish alliances, exchange personal information,
Speaker 3: and discuss the behavior of others to establish a consensus
Speaker 3: of socially acceptable behavior. Gossip can be used in too,
Speaker 3: because it helps people learn through the experience of others
Speaker 3: while enabling them to become closer to each other in
Speaker 3: the process. And so their conclusion was that gossip can
Speaker 3: be good informing bonds and forming community, informing alliances in
Speaker 3: like I said, weeding out the suckers, waiting out the
Speaker 3: weeding out the suckers to live.
Speaker 2: A more peaceful life. Perhaps suck a free life. Suck
Speaker 2: a free life. I like that. I like that. Oh
Speaker 2: that's nice. Yeah, I don't mind it. I don't mind
Speaker 2: it either. And listen. Yeah, the workplace.
Speaker 3: As I've said before, I have a school age child,
Speaker 3: and I have found gossip to be a useful tool
Speaker 3: in navigating the elementary school.
Speaker 2: Atmosphere.
Speaker 3: If you will, all the parents, the teachers, the administrators
Speaker 3: like it's important to be kind of clued in to
Speaker 3: make sure your kid is on the right track surrounded
Speaker 3: by good people, that the school is the right fit
Speaker 3: for your child too.
Speaker 2: That can be something. Also, this is important for me
Speaker 2: to pay attention to. I'm listening. I'm listening.
Speaker 3: For example, gossip alerted me to the fact that my
Speaker 3: child was having a really difficult time with a teacher
Speaker 3: last year, really and it started with parents calling me
Speaker 3: and saying, hey, did Enzo tell you about this? Or hey,
Speaker 3: my kid said that this happened, and what my child
Speaker 3: was holding it in because he didn't want to get
Speaker 3: in trouble because his teacher, so he immediately he was little,
Speaker 3: and he was really really little, and he just naturally was,
Speaker 3: you know, oh, what must be me. I must be
Speaker 3: doing something wrong. And then it wasn't until I asked
Speaker 3: him about it that it all came flooding out and
Speaker 3: it was heartbreaking. He was crying, and he figured out
Speaker 3: that was you know, certain behavior, things we were seeing,
Speaker 3: certain things, cracks and confidence that it was all coming
Speaker 3: from this teacher, you know, what the fuck? And I
Speaker 3: would never have known if it had not been first.
Speaker 3: Who was this fucking teacher?
Speaker 2: I know, I hate that fucking teacher. My teacher is
Speaker 2: an enemy in mine. I mean, here's the thing that's
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If that's gossip necessarily or if it's just like sharing information,
Speaker 1: but I guess in the way of like, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I should be telling you this, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to anyway.
Speaker 3: It felt like, yeah, like it was like the delivery
Speaker 3: felt a little bit gossip.
Speaker 2: Ye, yes, because m hmm.
Speaker 3: Parents were like, this is coming from my kid or
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, and and it was all
Speaker 3: sort of damn dude, it's yeah, all that shared information, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the only way to like know what's going on
Speaker 3: with like your kid's school life is through gossip.
Speaker 2: That's cool. That's cool. That's I mean, I'll take that advice,
Speaker 2: you know more better.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure that I actually learned anything
Speaker 1: today other than that that was a good that was
Speaker 1: a good tip. I feel like most of the time
Speaker 1: I just spent it gossiping.
Speaker 2: Actually just shit stories like we pretty much you know,
Speaker 2: dog some shit.
Speaker 1: I think I like kind of grabbed something about like
Speaker 1: how to be how to use it more in a
Speaker 1: healthy way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least from that last thing.
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, I don't want I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: this is a tricky one because like sometimes it's real
Speaker 1: bad and sometimes it's real good and it's very hard
Speaker 1: to sift through, which is which, Yes, it is fun
Speaker 1: and I do enjoy it, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: so for anyone else who's listening to this who feels
Speaker 1: that way, you're not alone, which is probably everyone, because
Speaker 1: I can't imagine anyone who doesn't like gossip. I mean,
Speaker 1: even my husband, he'll like the way my the way
Speaker 1: David will like perk up when I'm like guess what
Speaker 1: I heard? Oh my god, Like I just grat start
Speaker 1: a story like that, guess what I heard the same.
Speaker 2: Or I'll be like, oh my god, you know what happened.
Speaker 1: I'll be like what the excite? Tell me everything. That's
Speaker 1: how I process information. Sometimes with Brad, I just gossip
Speaker 1: to him and then yeah, process it. Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 2: All right. Well till next time, guys. Till next time.
Speaker 2: I hope you and if you have any hot gossip
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Speaker 1: see you next week, next week, Bye.
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