1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Cheese man, Bonchinche bon chinch boch. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: More Better, More Better, More. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Better, More. 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to have it all together and embrace the journey of 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: becoming a little more better every day. 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Or at least trying to. Yeah. That's moll supher marrow 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: and that's Stephanie Beatrice. And here we are, guys, we're back. 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: We are back talking more ship. 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: That's essentially, if you've been listening to this podcast for 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: a while, you were quickly realizing that that's what this is. 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: We're just talking a lot of ship, trying to figure 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: shit out. Yep, you know what I mean, just trying 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: to we're doing. How are you? I'm good, friend, I'm good. 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: How are you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you know it's going 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: all right, it's going okay. What have you done lately? 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: That's a little more better? Oh man? I since my trip. 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: I got a lot of rest on my trip, and 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: I have been in a few days. I've been home 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: very productive, and I'm thinking about some projects in my 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: house that I want to do, like organizing projects and 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: like purging projects. 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Yuck. Well, I do love a purge. I love a 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: purge and I love a purge because it's room to 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: buy new shit. 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: Pre trip, I was too I think, like stressed and 27 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: treading water. That every time I would come across that 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: closet that needs to be overhauled or whatever, that drawer, 29 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: that junk drawer that needs to be cleaned out, I 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: would just like close it and I couldn't even deal 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: with it. And now I think, because I had a 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: little bit of a rest, I'm like, cool, I'm excited 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: to like tackle this and make total space and just 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: like organize some shit, and I'm excited about it. So 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: that's my little bit of more better is that I'm 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: finally just like, that's nice figuring that out. 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: How about you anything lately staying that you've done that's 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: more better? Girl? I got myself a splint. Have I 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: talked about this? No? 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So in general, my dental health is much better, 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: I think because I don't know about you, but I'm 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: not I'll admit it. I'm not a good flosser. I 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: don't do it enough. 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: I'm not a good flosser either. No, but you know what, 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: I think it's totally not our fault. We did not 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: grow up with lossing. I am baddy at it. 47 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: I did not grow up with flossing. No, my parents 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: did not lost No. 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Subsequently, I will say not to be a downer, but 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: like when my dad was dying, he made me promise 51 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: him that I would take good care. 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Of my teeth, his teeth. 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: He like made me promise, which is really sweet, and 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: so it actively has made me. I know, well, because 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: it's connected to like your heart health and overall your 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: gum health is all. I went for a cleaning and 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: then my doctor was like, you need a scaling, and 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: I was like, what the oh yes I remember the 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: scaling scaling, yes, yes, So anyway, then I also got 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: fitted for a splint, which is I I grind my 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: teeth that night and like subsequently, one side of my 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: jaw is bigger than the other. 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 64 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: So I've been wearing my splint and it's really that 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: like a mouth guard, really good. It looks stupid, like 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I looked like I'm gonna go play hockey or and 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: I talk like left when I have it in, so 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: like it's like I feel like said the sloth when 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: I have it in. Yeah, it's not conducive to sexy 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: time at all, because like. 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: Kissing your partner. 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Good night with that in your mouth is whoo. But 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: my I do wake up with a relaxed jaw. 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: My husband has one of those two and yeah, does 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: it wear it? He does, he does. It's goofy looking, 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: but yeah. 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: He he usually waits to see, like, are just We're 78 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: just gonna go to sleep tonight. 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my thing in, Like. 80 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: See, I have to put mine in half an hour 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: before I go to sleep. So the bedroom and stuff 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: like that's tricky. 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: Okay, I know his is just that you're different than his. 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Is just a mouthguard that he has to sleep with 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: so that he doesn't mind mouth guard. 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: But but why do you have to put it in 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: a half hour? I have to because otherwise I take 88 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: it out in the night and it's in the. 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: Bed, which is also not conducd with to sex. Somebody's 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: gross mouthguard in their breaking in the middle of their bed. 91 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: So I do that in your sleep? You take it out? 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: When I had him, bisi line, I would find my 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: trays in my bed and I have no recollection taking 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: them out, but I would just. 95 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember that, yeah, out in the middle of 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: the night. Yep. 97 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: So if I leave it in if I put it 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: in half an hour before to go to bed, I'm 99 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: way less likely to take it out because my mouth 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: is kind. 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: Of used to it by then. Interesting. 102 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been I've been flossing like a mofo. 103 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: I've been wearing my splint. I'm feeling more relaxed in 104 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: the morning when I wake up. 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, more better. Okay, So what are we talking about today? 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: We're talking about gossip today. Were diving into the topic 107 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: of gossip. My favorite or some as as some may 108 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: call it cheese may. 109 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: What do you call it? Cheese may bonchinch bon chiche 110 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: Never heard that until you told me about it. Guys, 111 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: tell us what your what your gossip words are? Yeah, 112 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: that's what we call it. To us what your gossip 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: words are, because we want to know. Are they different 114 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: in different places? Oh? Yeah, I want to know different languages? 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: What is gossip? What is the gossip term? 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: All over the world, spilling the tea became very popular 117 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: thanks to the black community and many a drag queen 118 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: and the gay community. 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: I actually don't know the actual origin of the spilling 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: the tea, Yeah. 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Origin of it, but I'm imagining as all cool things. 122 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: It came from the black community and the LGBTQ community. Oh, 123 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: they are the culture makers, the taste makers of all things. 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Isis what up isis? 125 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Okay? 126 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: It says, spill the tea originated in black, gay and 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: drag culture. So you're right, stuff, What. 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: Did I say? Nailed it? 129 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Black people, gay people, drag culture. They do everything better. 130 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: They spell it with just the letter T. It says. 131 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: Spilling Tea for Ruth can be seen in nineteen ninety 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: four is Midnight and the Garden of Good and Evil 133 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: by John Burrent, which featured a transgender character who spilled 134 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: the tea in sharing gossip. 135 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: I love cool. I didn't know that it was tea 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: for truth. 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so at some point it became teach yeah. 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: And then it just became tea tea. I love that. 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: I love it. I do love that phrase. 140 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: I love when sometimes we get together and it's like, 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: you got any tea, any tea? 142 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: Well, what is the juiciest piece of gossip you've ever heard? 143 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean. 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: It's hard because gossip is can be incredibly private, but yeah, 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: I have gotten juicy tips of like someone being secretly 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: pregnant when they got married. 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Uh, the way you do just inale just like a 149 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: triple gas. Wow, I love that. 150 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, identities protected, identities protected adultery. Uh like finding out 151 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 3: before Oh awful? 152 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, give me more. You have to 153 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: actually give it though. Yeah, you can't just be like mmmm, 154 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: that was awful. I know I'm being I know, I know, 155 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't. Do you have a juicy what's the juiciest? 156 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: Before I started acting in La not before I started acting, 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: but before I got a good job in La acting, 158 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I had to pay my bills. 159 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: So I was working at a workout studio. First I 160 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: worked the front desk in exchange for classes, and then 161 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: I took so many classes that I got to be 162 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: really really good at it. And then I auditioned to 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: be an instructor, and I was an instructor there, and 164 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: there was so much gossip around the owners of that studio. 165 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: There was like there was stuff about her past and 166 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: like what kind of. 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, there was dabbling and like listen, there was 168 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: dabbling in sex work there, which is you know, its 169 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: own kind of work. 170 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: But there was also like hiding that there was. 171 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: Trips that that family would because it was family owned, 172 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: there were like trips that that family would take to 173 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: the south of France for months while the instructors paychecks 174 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: were bouncing because there wasn't they weren't getting paid, Like 175 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: they would go and put their checks in and like 176 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: there was nothing in the account for them. 177 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: There was. 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: There was a time when I, as a I was 179 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: working the desk still, and there was a time when 180 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: there was this client that we had that was an 181 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: amazing client. 182 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: She was really really great, fabulous. She was just she 183 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: would she was there every day. 184 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: She she and I had talked a lot because she 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: was sober actually, and she talked about how exercise really 186 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: like grounded her and helped her and just really sweet girl, 187 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: covered in tattoos, just a really lovely person. And I 188 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: got to know her over the year that I was there. 189 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: And so one time, you know, I was allowed to 190 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: take class, Like if my shift was over, I would 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: just lock the front door and I would go take 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: the last class of the day. And she that girl 193 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: was like, I just have a couple emails to answer. 194 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like sit in the lobby. And I was like, okay, yeah, 195 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: you sit in the lobby. I'm gonna go take class. 196 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock the door whatever. I locked everything up, 197 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, like locked up the cabinets whatever. The owner 198 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: came in while I was in class and she was 199 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: in the lobby, and then after class she was like, 200 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: I need to talk to you, and she took me 201 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: into the other studio and screamed at me and said 202 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff about how that girl wasn't She was like, 203 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: that girl's an addict. 204 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: We don't know she stealing from us. Like meanwhile, that's 205 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: one of. 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Her best clients, like took privates, like was like a 207 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: super high up member, like you know, like. 208 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: Unlimited classes whatever. 209 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: She paid like a premium rate and stuff, and like 210 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: she talked so much shit about her. 211 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: I mean it was she was not cool. She was 212 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: not cool. She was not a cool person. Anyway. There 213 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: was all this like gossip and stuff. 214 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: And then there the studios were like franchising and opening everywhere, 215 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: and like you know, people were not getting paid, people 216 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: were doing work. 217 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: That they shouldn't have been doing. 218 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: The husband of the studio owner was like him, like 219 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: there was rumor about like him hitting on different instructors 220 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: getic of their ads. 221 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: Was kind of getting crazy. 222 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: And then they opened a studio in another state and 223 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: like you could franchise and whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, And 224 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: then the whole thing folded. The whole thing folded, and 225 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: there was one like uzz feed article or something with 226 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: like a small investigation into it, but nobody ever did 227 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: a deep dive. But I think because none of the 228 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: instructors wanted to say, you know who it was or 229 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: accused them of anything or whatever. 230 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: But it was crazy anyway, that's my thing. 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: What a wild And they they ended up opening like 232 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: a totally different studio, like another workout studio, a smaller 233 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: one that like, you know, it's still they're flying under 234 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: the radar with it, but they've. 235 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know the instructors. 236 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 237 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: Yep. That is juicy. That's juicy, right, that is I mean, like, 238 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: here's the thing. Gossip is fun. You get really good 239 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: piece of gossip. 240 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: You're just like, oh, like good, I am so happy 241 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: that I know this information, even though it's nothing to 242 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: do with me and it doesn't like affect my life 243 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: at all, but I just. 244 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I mean sometimes it can be really bad. 245 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: Ye Like, it also can be bad. Mean mean, yes, 246 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: it is. 247 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: People get hurt twisted, you know, false, especially because like 248 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: oh I heard this, and I heard that, and then 249 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: you spread that and then it's like, oh my god, 250 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: that person is you know, a monster when like. 251 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: Maybe they just feel like a gossip or something. 252 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: I feel like a gossip red flag for me is 253 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: when someone starts a piece of gossip with like I 254 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: heard is like I don't want I don't want second 255 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: third hand accounts, Like I immediately go like, okay, I'm 256 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: gonna want to I want first hand. 257 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 258 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: Otherwise I kind of like immediately don't. I don't I 259 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 3: discredited a little bit, you know, I'm just right. I 260 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: just feel that it's take it, take it with a 261 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: great assault. But if someone's like, oh, you know, yesterday, 262 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: I so and so, you know something, that's a little 263 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: bit closer than. 264 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: Like I'm in I'm in in with you in the gossip. 265 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: Give it to me, right bye, Right, Okay. 266 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of parts of this, right because like gossiping, Yeah, 267 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: it's a way of exchanging information. It's a way of 268 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: feeling close to other people because now you have like 269 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a shared story or a shared secret. Yes, you know 270 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: it bonds people, yes, And like there's just spaces where 271 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: there's shit talking that happens, you know, like whether it's 272 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: between family members holidays, whether it's like in the nail salon, 273 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: whether it's in the break room at work, whether it's 274 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: like you know, and it's and it's there's just shit 275 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: talking that. But it's not just us, it's men too, 276 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: write like barbershops are great places for gossip. Guys gossip, 277 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, they. 278 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Talk about people they don't like. 279 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, this shit talking, which is 280 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: essentially gossip, is proceed with caution, but it also can 281 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: be valuable in giving you a heads up that some 282 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: person is shit. 283 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and that is absolutely valid. You know. 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: I think it's I say proceed with caution because I 285 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: think you have to kind of evaluate like where what 286 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: exactly the gossip is or what the story is, and 287 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: like what the person's intentions telling it are. 288 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: You know, I think you can. 289 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: But I think it's sometimes pretty clear that like someone 290 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: is just shit talking someone because they're jealous of them, 291 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: or they don't like them or something like that. Sometimes 292 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: it feels pretty obvious to me, but if I get 293 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: a piece of them most of the time, most of 294 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: the time, but if someone is telling a story about 295 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: someone who like truly did something awful, is like, that's 296 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: that's important information for me to have to steer clear 297 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: of that person or not work with that person. Like 298 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: that's something I've started to do too. If I'm, you know, 299 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: about to go into something with someone I've never worked 300 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: with before, I'll try to ask around. 301 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, hey, yeah, I want to never. 302 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: Heard of anything about this person or this actor or 303 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: this writer experience with them? 304 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are there? What are they're? Like everybody 305 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: tosks in this industry. 306 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: I mean, give me the tea, give me the ta 307 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: How he asks a couple people and get a read 308 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: from someone of like oh I heard they're nice, or 309 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: oh I heard they're really difficult or I heard their shit, 310 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: like yeah, and then you know what you're walking into. 311 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: So I think that that that exchange of information can 312 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: be really powerful. 313 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: I just made a face though, because like sometimes, I mean, 314 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I know myself and I've certainly had moments where they're 315 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: not my finest moment, And like if you asked someone 316 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: that dealt with me that period of time, they'd be like, Oh, 317 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: she's a fucking bitch. 318 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: I didn't like her and she's whatever, you know what 319 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean. Like, No, certainly had days where but everybody had. 320 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 321 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 3: I don't think unless like somebody was present for an 322 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: off day for you for just that one day, okay maybe, 323 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: but as. 324 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: A whole, like we all have off day. Once when 325 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: I was shadowing someone. 326 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Once when I was shadowing someone, uh for directing, I 327 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: was sitting at the monitors with them, them and the 328 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: writer whatever, and I just like I couldnot keep my 329 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: eyes open. I couldnot keep my eyes open, and I 330 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: fell asleep sitting up. And I know they saw me. 331 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: I know they did. I know they didn't. 332 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: So like if you were to ask them like, oh, 333 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: what kind of like you know, how how is she 334 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: like on set? 335 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Or do you like her or whatever, they'd be like, 336 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean she fell asleep at the monitor that I'll 337 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: tell you something. 338 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: They don't think I'm good. 339 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: Maybe they gave you the benefit of the day, like, oh, 340 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: she must have had a rough night. 341 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: If somebody was shadowing you and then you looked over 342 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and they were fucking asleep, what would you think. 343 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: I'd be hell annoyed. I'd be like some bullshit, Get 344 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: some coffee, girls. 345 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm awake and I'm working, suck it up. Yeah, yeah exactly. 346 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: M so Grain of salt. 347 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: You guys, don't judge me for falling asleep at work. God, 348 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: it was really embarrassing. It's really embarrassing because like I 349 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: startled awake and I saw them looking at me, and 350 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: I was like. 351 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: Oh, no, oh no, did you do like A No, 352 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think so shit, maybe I did. 353 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 354 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: Damn fuck, that would be so embarrassing. God, I don't know. 355 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: There's some people out there that don't like me and 356 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: gossip shit about me. You know what I'm saying. 357 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: You know I'm saying, Listen, there's a lot of growth 358 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 3: come along with this job. So did you grow up 359 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: with gossip? Like, did you with gossip a part of 360 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: your Yeah? And I feel like if you're Latino, like 361 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: my god, a given, I think. 362 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: Everyone everyone, Yeah, everybody's part. Yes, I remember. 363 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: There's like a there's like a family phone tree that 364 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: happens in my family. 365 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: So like when. 366 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: Something happens, my mom is like I'm waiting for the 367 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: call from so and so, do you know what I mean, 368 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: like to find out what happened and then it's and 369 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: I just grew up with that all the time of 370 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: like you know, it's like almost you hear the the 371 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: heads up of like some shit went down or so 372 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: and so we're in a fight. 373 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know why, totaling for the call. 374 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: And then we get the call from the DIA that 375 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: talk to the other DIA that talked to the cousin 376 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: that talk to the cousin who saw that cousin that 377 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: day and saw what happened. And then it just like 378 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: goes through all these people and yeah, and then the 379 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: same like with my mom, if something happened on our end, 380 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 3: she'd be like, oh, I got a call so and 381 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: so and so and so so they could call and 382 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: then and it's just like this little bone tree that happens. 383 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: And I just grew up with that being like very normal. 384 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: And I think it still happens in my family. 385 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, and I cannot and I and I find 386 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: everyone's in each other's business, and with my close group 387 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: of friends, especially when I lived in New York, I 388 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: think that definitely. 389 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: Like I adopted that, like. 390 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: Oh, some shit just went down, I'm gonna call so 391 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: and so and then sometimes and that who knows what 392 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: In that conversation, you go, hey, I don't I don't 393 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: feel like repeating the story, So can you call so 394 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: and so and tell them what happened? 395 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's. 396 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: That community building thing too, because like when you know 397 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: people's business, it makes you feel closer to them. 398 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, yeah. 399 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: I think it is like a community thing, you know. 400 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: And I think I, you know, neighborhood gossip is another 401 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: also PS We've said this before. 402 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: I do love gossip. 403 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: I think I enjoy gossip that you know, we're talking 404 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: about like good, clean, old fashioned, scandalous gods gossip. 405 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: I mean that. 406 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: I think that's why we're not trying to like her 407 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: anybody's lives. 408 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: But social media is so funny that way, because like 409 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: I did remove TikTok. 410 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: From my phone again, But what I'm getting fed. 411 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: In my in my for you page is always like, Okay, 412 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: this is what happened in this small town in Alabama, 413 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't know anybody here, but I'm 414 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what went down anyway, and it will 415 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: be like some long story about how somebody's you know. 416 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: There was one that I followed for a while. 417 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: It was like this awful story about this woman whose 418 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: husband was cheating on her and she found out that was. 419 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: With her mom is. 420 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and she like her mom had 421 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: gotten and her mom the whole time, I think, was 422 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: like telling her about people have people. 423 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm getting this wrong, but like see I'm getting it wrong. 424 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: But like I think what happened was her mom was 425 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: like I'm dating this new person and like telling her 426 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: daughter all about it and stuff and like and she 427 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: ended up getting like a tattoo and it was the guy's. 428 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: Initials and she was like, oh, that's weird. That's my 429 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: husband's initials. And she's like, yeah, that's such a coincidence. 430 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: And then like wait, the mom never met the husband. No, 431 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: the mom the mom was cheating with. 432 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: The daughter's husband. 433 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh, but like knew that sends her husband and was 434 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: telling her she knew it was her husband. 435 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: They were like cheating in their hats. Psychotic. 436 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: I am not gonna argue with you, but I loved 437 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: listening to the story. 438 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: I loved it. 439 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: I was like with my popcorn, just like yes, give 440 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: me more, you know, like I. 441 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: Just think that something is so crazy. 442 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: The craziest stories, the things that like if you were 443 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: to write it in a script and you've heard this before, 444 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: but like if you were to write it, no one 445 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: would believe it. Everybody in the writer's room would veto it, 446 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, because it's just so in, so out there 447 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: fucking saying. 448 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: You see the thing that went viral a few days 449 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: ago of a woman posted a picture of a man 450 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: on an airplane and she was like, if. 451 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: This is your husband, just know he's flying. Did you 452 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: see He's flying from San Jose to Miami? 453 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: And if this is your husband, he is probably spending 454 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: the night going home with this this girl. 455 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: That he met at the airport bar. 456 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: And they even switched seats to sit next to each other, 457 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: and like, your man is gonna cheat on you tonight. 458 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, I ate it up. 459 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: And I was like, also, kudos to that woman looking 460 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: out for some other woman that she doesn't know to 461 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 3: be like, man is out here being a douche good. 462 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: That makes me so sick. It's just like it's so scary. 463 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: It's so scary. 464 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: And then like one of the things that's really scary 465 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: is like, you know, gossip spreading that person had that 466 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: person's best interest at heart, But what happens when somebody 467 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have someone's best interest at heart and he's like 468 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: spreading gossip, you know, like we've all been victim to 469 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: reading the gossip columns, and like you know, Britney Spears 470 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: is a perfect example of everybody gossiped about her. We 471 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: sold so many magazines, we took pictures of her, we 472 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: did this and that and the other, and like we 473 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: scarred her. We scarred her, you know, and we affected 474 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: her life. 475 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: I would love, yeah, I would love to see all 476 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: the gossip columns and magazines just like go away, because 477 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: it's just it's just bad for humanity and just hurts people. 478 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: I do subscribe to US Weekly. I love it. I 479 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: love it. 480 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: I love it rumors and just oh my god, they've 481 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: done to so many Jen Aniston, like so many. 482 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: Well listen, I don't that that part of it was horrible. 483 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: And they're always there are always women that they're like 484 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: I went down to sell papers. 485 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: I want to know your enemy, you know, in the 486 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: words of Rage against the Machine, know your enemy, know 487 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: them inside out, you know, like I know, I know, 488 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: I see I read it, and you know a lot 489 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: of it is like is this being sold to me? 490 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: And if so, why you know who's paying? And like, 491 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: as someone who's in this industry, now, like I can 492 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: tell you guys, all those people that you see in 493 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: the gossam columns or like in those magazines. 494 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: They all have publicists that they're paying like. 495 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's thousands hard Like yes, that's like that part 496 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: some hundreds of thousands of dollars to be placed in 497 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: those magazines to have certain things said about them, to 498 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: get good press or bad press. They've got relationships with 499 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: those called gossip columnsts. 500 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 501 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: My husband was good friends with someone who was a 502 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: GM at a very at like a celebrity hot spot 503 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 3: kind of restaurant in La and he would tell us 504 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: he would be he would say, oh, the public He 505 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: was like, half the time the publics call the paparazzi 506 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: yeah and say so. 507 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: And so I was having dinner here tonight. 508 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: He was like, there's always oh my god, totally and 509 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: then they you know, I was doing a play and 510 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: like we were having drinks at a bar and then 511 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: we walked out and there were all these paparazzi and 512 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: afterwards another friend that was in the play, I was like, oh, 513 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: they those those people that came and saw the play 514 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: tonight that we were like at the bar having drinks 515 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: with they called the pops Like I'm friends with them 516 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: they called the paparazzi. 517 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like what, like it was crazy. Yeah. 518 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: I also in my mind was thinking like wow, they 519 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: look really really great, right, and she has like a 520 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: full face of makeup on to just like go see 521 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: a play. 522 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: That's so crazy, or like to go to dinner just 523 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: like super looking, super hot to go to a bar. 524 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like more power to them, but like wow, 525 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, like it's all there's machine happening. That's 526 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: also why I like to post on social media when 527 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: I am on there. It's like you post the highlights, right, 528 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: but I also often post the low lights. I understand that, 529 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: like everybody wants a curated version of themselves so that 530 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: no one will talk shit. But people are gonna talk 531 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: shit anyway, So what's the point. 532 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? More better. 533 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 4: Better? 534 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So you want to talk about the study that 535 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: you read about. 536 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: Yes, so, our amazing producer Isis sent this study. It 537 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: was a Dartmouth dar Dartmouth. Oh my god, how do 538 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: you say that? Dartmouth, Dartmouth, dart mounth out, Dartmouth, myth, 539 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: Dartmouth study, Dartmouth, thank you? Isis Dartmouth, Dartmouth Dartmouth. 540 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dartmouth, yea Dartmouth, even though it's spelled like dart Mouth. 541 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: You guys, pecan pecan anyway, Dartmouth. Study, Uh, that gossip 542 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 3: is good. So they set up this game essentially in 543 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: this study where trying to remember the details, but the 544 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: participants had they gave them ten dollars and they could 545 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: and they had the choice to just keep their money 546 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 3: or they could invest some of the money in like 547 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: a community kind of fund and it would be invested 548 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: and then dispersed throughout the group equally. 549 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: And so. 550 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: Once and then at a certain point, I think during 551 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: the game, they allowed the participants to privately message each other, 552 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: and what ended up happening was gossip exchanging information about 553 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: who was contributing, who was just flying easy way yay 554 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: yea holding on to their money, waiting to just like 555 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: get more money from the group. 556 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: And you know, it increased participation in the game. 557 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: It increased collaboration and community, and it also like the 558 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: group kind of like weeded out some sucos that were. 559 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: In the in the group that we're just free loading. 560 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: Nice and so it made the point that you know, 561 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: in certain scenarios, gossip can be really powerful, and it 562 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: made me think of professionally, like in the workplace, I 563 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: you know, like I said before, gossiping about certain personalities. 564 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: Also sharing, I mean, I don't know if this is 565 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: considered gossip, but like sharing what you're getting paid can 566 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: be really powerful. Sharing what you got in your deal 567 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: or your writer or what extra little things you got, 568 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: especially for women, I think can be incredibly powerful. Yeah, 569 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: as we all like fight for a more equal slice 570 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: of the pie, if you will, and so yeah, and 571 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: it said. The researchers explain that gossip should not be 572 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: relegated to just baseless trash talk excuse me sorry. 573 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: According to the. 574 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: Paper, the team's findings on the role of gossip are 575 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: consistent with creating a shared reality in which friends and 576 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: colleagues often find common bonds, establish alliances, exchange personal information, 577 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: and discuss the behavior of others to establish a consensus 578 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: of socially acceptable behavior. Gossip can be used in too, 579 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: because it helps people learn through the experience of others 580 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: while enabling them to become closer to each other in 581 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: the process. And so their conclusion was that gossip can 582 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: be good informing bonds and forming community, informing alliances in 583 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: like I said, weeding out the suckers, waiting out the 584 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: weeding out the suckers to live. 585 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: A more peaceful life. Perhaps suck a free life. Suck 586 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: a free life. I like that. I like that. Oh 587 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: that's nice. Yeah, I don't mind it. I don't mind 588 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: it either. And listen. Yeah, the workplace. 589 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: As I've said before, I have a school age child, 590 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: and I have found gossip to be a useful tool 591 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: in navigating the elementary school. 592 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: Atmosphere. 593 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: If you will, all the parents, the teachers, the administrators 594 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: like it's important to be kind of clued in to 595 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: make sure your kid is on the right track surrounded 596 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: by good people, that the school is the right fit 597 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: for your child too. 598 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: That can be something. Also, this is important for me 599 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: to pay attention to. I'm listening. I'm listening. 600 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: For example, gossip alerted me to the fact that my 601 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: child was having a really difficult time with a teacher 602 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: last year, really and it started with parents calling me 603 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: and saying, hey, did Enzo tell you about this? Or hey, 604 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: my kid said that this happened, and what my child 605 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: was holding it in because he didn't want to get 606 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: in trouble because his teacher, so he immediately he was little, 607 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: and he was really really little, and he just naturally was, 608 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: you know, oh, what must be me. I must be 609 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: doing something wrong. And then it wasn't until I asked 610 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: him about it that it all came flooding out and 611 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: it was heartbreaking. He was crying, and he figured out 612 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: that was you know, certain behavior, things we were seeing, 613 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: certain things, cracks and confidence that it was all coming 614 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: from this teacher, you know, what the fuck? And I 615 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: would never have known if it had not been first. 616 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: Who was this fucking teacher? 617 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: I know, I hate that fucking teacher. My teacher is 618 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: an enemy in mine. I mean, here's the thing that's 619 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 620 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: If that's gossip necessarily or if it's just like sharing information, 621 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: but I guess in the way of like, I'm not 622 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: sure I should be telling you this, but I'm going 623 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: to anyway. 624 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: It felt like, yeah, like it was like the delivery 625 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: felt a little bit gossip. 626 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: Ye, yes, because m hmm. 627 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: Parents were like, this is coming from my kid or 628 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, and and it was all 629 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: sort of damn dude, it's yeah, all that shared information, man, Yeah, 630 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: that's the only way to like know what's going on 631 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: with like your kid's school life is through gossip. 632 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: That's cool. That's cool. That's I mean, I'll take that advice, 633 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: you know more better. 634 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure that I actually learned anything 635 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: today other than that that was a good that was 636 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: a good tip. I feel like most of the time 637 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: I just spent it gossiping. 638 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: Actually just shit stories like we pretty much you know, 639 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: dog some shit. 640 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: I think I like kind of grabbed something about like 641 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: how to be how to use it more in a 642 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: healthy way. 643 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least from that last thing. 644 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: But like, honestly, I don't want I don't know, Like 645 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: this is a tricky one because like sometimes it's real 646 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: bad and sometimes it's real good and it's very hard 647 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: to sift through, which is which, Yes, it is fun 648 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: and I do enjoy it, and I just you know, 649 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: so for anyone else who's listening to this who feels 650 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: that way, you're not alone, which is probably everyone, because 651 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine anyone who doesn't like gossip. I mean, 652 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: even my husband, he'll like the way my the way 653 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: David will like perk up when I'm like guess what 654 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: I heard? Oh my god, Like I just grat start 655 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: a story like that, guess what I heard the same. 656 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: Or I'll be like, oh my god, you know what happened. 657 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: I'll be like what the excite? Tell me everything. That's 658 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: how I process information. Sometimes with Brad, I just gossip 659 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: to him and then yeah, process it. Yeah, it's nice. 660 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: All right. Well till next time, guys. Till next time. 661 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: I hope you and if you have any hot gossip 662 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: please send it to you. 663 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: Please go to our Instagram page, the More Better Podcast 664 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: Instagram page. 665 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: And dmos the Hot Gossip m You can have a 666 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: follow up episode. Send us some dms of gossip. 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