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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access on a Tuesday, we are

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Speaker 1: in the Hyunday Texans at Radio Studio. That would be

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Speaker 1: me deep to do along with my good friend Drew

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Speaker 1: Doherty's up. How's it going. It's great, It's great. The

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Speaker 1: July fourth break is coming. Can't wait. I know this

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Speaker 1: is the time of year where everything starts winding down.

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Speaker 1: Inside inn RG Stadium, you still see a few sprinkling

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Speaker 1: of players. Yeah, and you know, trainers sort of getting

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Speaker 1: some last minute things done and then and then this

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Speaker 1: place shuts down during the week of the fourth. It

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Speaker 1: sure does. It's also which I like. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: great perk of where we work. It was a nice rhyme. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: there's also a lot of randos that just sort of

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Speaker 1: pop up. And one of them, who did you see

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Speaker 1: phone in a few days Anthony Munos. Oh, the greatest

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Speaker 1: left that's more than a random Yeah, but he's a

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Speaker 1: random time Why would you talk to Anyways, he's got

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Speaker 1: a camp that's he's running, and we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: the campable. I want to also get his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Texans Talk Left tackle Pas I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna talk coffins in line with him? And

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Speaker 1: I'm even going to talk the right stuff with him

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Speaker 1: because he was in that movie. He had a small

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Speaker 1: role in that movie. Ah, not the New Kids video.

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Speaker 1: That's you if we get Danny McIntyre, Joey McIntyre, Joey McIntyre, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yos Jordan and Jonathan uh Yes. So you know, it's

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Speaker 1: funny because when you said Rando's, I had my mind

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Speaker 1: went somewhere else. A few years ago. Up until a

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Speaker 1: few years ago, the Barnum and Bailey Circus used to

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Speaker 1: be in town. Yeah, around They would sort of bring

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Speaker 1: first training camp here where he was, you know, still

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Speaker 1: seemed even more so because it was his first training camp.

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Speaker 1: And we were in the service level and a unicyclist

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Speaker 1: And stuff like that was pretty regular because I think

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Speaker 1: a year or two before that, UM, one time I

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Speaker 1: Normal about that? Really? I mean, no no more circus

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Speaker 1: so since the circus disbanded. None of that here we

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Speaker 1: um in the service level. But you know, we do

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Speaker 1: have some players, like I said, and I do this

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Speaker 1: thing called likes and stuff, which as you know, it

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Speaker 1: but yeah he was, Yeah, he was baptized. He got

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Speaker 1: talk about some random things happening in your off season.

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Speaker 1: just if you look at his passport and think of

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Speaker 1: he's still getting work done and getting prepared for twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait for September. I really cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to see what this offense when it's fully healthy knock

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Speaker 1: If if everybody stays healthy. Yeah, we've seen Will Fuller

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Speaker 1: you know, when he comes back because right now everyone

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Speaker 1: the hope is that he's back for week one, and look,

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Speaker 1: week one. But to see him back in the lineup

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Speaker 1: along with DeAndre Hopkins who's been here working as well

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Speaker 1: in JJ Watt who threw a surprise birthday party for

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Speaker 1: his mom, and and people that work in the NFL

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Speaker 1: can relate to this, you know, as as do the players.

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Speaker 1: He got her, well surprised because she wasn't really sure

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Speaker 1: true surprise. She wasn't expecting a birthday party four months earlier. Well,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that we see every single years is

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Speaker 1: one of your favorite moments in Texans history, hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: really is. They were here in twenty fifteen and there

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Speaker 1: how the future of hard Knocks could be changing because

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Speaker 1: the owner's meeting that was underway most recently here in

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Speaker 1: May they're talking about the league having some problems getting

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Speaker 1: teams to sign up for Hard Knocks, And I know

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Speaker 1: sign up for doing Hard Knocks. And Bill O'Brien and

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Speaker 1: it is intrusive in that regard. Selfishly, however, I'm the opposite.

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Speaker 1: I loved it because I learned so much about these guys.

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Speaker 1: You and I were around this team and we're closer

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Speaker 1: learn things about these guys because they have all of

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Speaker 1: these cameras. If you think about it, if you spend

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Speaker 1: all of your time around Deshaun Watson, you're going to

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Speaker 1: learn a hell of a lot about Deshaun Watson, but

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Speaker 1: that's what's that's what's beautiful about Hard Knocks. They've got

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Speaker 1: and it's really fascinating. I love having them here. I

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Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of stuff that we don't know

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Speaker 1: Ever See All or Nothing? Right? That's during the season.

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Speaker 1: why they don't win big, you know, because of some

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Speaker 1: because I think the popularity of Hard Knocks has gone

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Speaker 1: a there's a zillion options like everything else in media

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Speaker 1: the stars of the team. You almost it's like with

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Speaker 1: any show, you need to have star power. Now, Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks when it was in Houston, you saw a little

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Speaker 1: want to see those guys. Now, if it's some other

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Speaker 1: teams undrafted you'll you know, if you start watching it

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Speaker 1: But otherwise, would would you say, oh, I absolutely need

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Speaker 1: to watch the season of Hard Knocks this season Oakland Raiders. Now,

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Speaker 1: why is everybody gonna watch it? Gruden? Right? Not anybody

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Speaker 1: Weaver pushing us the way he does it makes it

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Speaker 1: a lot easier for us to just gael together. What

427
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Speaker 1: is it about? We've we've for a long time because

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Speaker 1: he did radio with all of us. He was like

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Speaker 1: my first texting we ever did radio with. So I've

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Speaker 1: known Anti for a long time. But what is he

431
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Speaker 1: like as a coach and why is he able to

432
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Speaker 1: connect with you guys? Way he does think being a

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Speaker 1: younger coach and the guy who's played not only played

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Speaker 1: played here, Yeah, so he gets it. Um, been around,

435
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Speaker 1: he's got a family, you know, he understands things. He's

436
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Speaker 1: his kids are younger. He used to deal with younger kids,

437
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Speaker 1: so he's he gets and he knows that. You know,

438
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 1: football is amazing, it's it's a blessing, it's but it's

439
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 1: not the end all be all, and he makes sure

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Speaker 1: that's known. And I think he does a good job

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Speaker 1: of that and just being able to connect with the guys.

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Speaker 1: He's been where we've been at and he's not far

443
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Speaker 1: removed from it. He can still get out there and

444
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Speaker 1: show us thing. He leads by example, and you know,

445
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: when he needs to get honest, he gets home us.

446
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Speaker 1: But he makes the room fun. He understands coaching at

447
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 1: different levels, like coaching that going straight from lead to

448
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Speaker 1: coaching in college to coaching and North Texas coming here,

449
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Speaker 1: like you under stand how kids in that age group

450
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Speaker 1: at you can lose him quickly, Like you can lose

451
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Speaker 1: our attention span super quick. Yeah. I think he does

452
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Speaker 1: a real good job of keeping our attention span. He

453
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Speaker 1: he has this quote he says, uh, football is like

454
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: a simple game made hard by coaches, you know, And

455
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,959
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of quotes like that, you know,

456
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Speaker 1: and so he keeps them, keeps you reminding of him,

457
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Speaker 1: and you know he knows it's a game, it's fun,

458
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Speaker 1: it's it's what it is. It's football. There's gonna be

459
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Speaker 1: tough times in football, there's gonna be really good times before,

460
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Speaker 1: but he makes those things fun. Because DJ, will we

461
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: ever see four square come back? Yes? I think we

462
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Speaker 1: went four and twelve before four square and twelve, but

463
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Speaker 1: we didn't go four and twelve because we were playing

464
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Speaker 1: four square? Yeah. I don't think so either, but we

465
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Speaker 1: got some superstitious guys in our room or not. I

466
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: don't understandable you not want to go back to four

467
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Speaker 1: scare I love four square. I enjoy it. Got to

468
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Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Club and do work. I play

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Speaker 1: four square all the time. But it's good. Keep it

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Speaker 1: off campus, man, join, It's good luck to you. That

471
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Speaker 1: was DJ Reader here on Texans Radio. Up next, we've

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Speaker 1: got John Harris. He sits down with me. We discuss MVPs.

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Speaker 1: Not well, we do discuss MVPs. Uh the MVP of

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Speaker 1: the NBA, as well as who the MVP of the

475
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Speaker 1: Texans should be. If you take out a few players,

476
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Speaker 1: who's left who is most important to this squad on

477
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Speaker 1: offense and defense. We get into that with John Harris

478
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Speaker 1: and what he's looking for in training campus. Not too

479
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Speaker 1: early to talk about some of the things that we're

480
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Speaker 1: excited to see coming up in one month. That's all

481
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Speaker 1: coming up right here on Texans All Access. One final segment,

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Speaker 1: Don't Go Anywhere, Welcome back, one final segment of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. John Harris joining me now, Johnny, the John

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Speaker 1: Harris Segment, as we like to call it. It's an

485
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Speaker 1: off week, but yet we're still here doing radio every week,

486
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Speaker 1: of course, and sport the sports world rolls on. Because

487
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Speaker 1: last night and this morning on Twitter, I saw all

488
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Speaker 1: the talk about the NBA MVP being announced. Obviously Janna's

489
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Speaker 1: Atakopo being yep um MP. People in Houston may have

490
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Speaker 1: their disagreements about it, but Rockets Twitter was all like,

491
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Speaker 1: they yeah, they were, they were um, they were a

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Speaker 1: little disappointed. They fired the Rockets. The Rockets fired a

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Speaker 1: tweet out, and the Rockets are one of the most

494
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Speaker 1: polarizing organizations, it seems, in all of Major League Baseball,

495
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Speaker 1: NBA and in the NFL. Just for whatever reason. I

496
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Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people I know, I've

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Speaker 1: got a I got a friend of mine, a guy

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Speaker 1: that I've known for a few years, John Middlecoff, who

499
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Speaker 1: lives on the Bay Area, and he just loves to

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Speaker 1: poke at the Rockets. And it's not like the Rockets

501
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Speaker 1: have really can can poke back because they haven't beaten

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Speaker 1: the Warriors, they haven't done something to get over the top,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, they haven't made that moment yet, and so

504
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Speaker 1: he just he takes he takes his shots at Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul and and at Daryl Morey. And then of course

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Speaker 1: that that tweet last night, it was like, oh man, look,

507
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: well the fallout was still happening this morning. Yeah, it

508
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: was going off for a while. But it's funny because

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Speaker 1: I think when you live in Houston, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: you're in the eye of the storm. Yeah, where you know,

511
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Speaker 1: you're used to getting the Houston media and you see

512
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Speaker 1: the Houston teams, and you know, it's it's hard to

513
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Speaker 1: see how other people outside of the organization perceive James

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Speaker 1: Harden and the Rockets. But you know, if I definitely

515
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Speaker 1: got a taste of it on Twitter because people were

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Speaker 1: not happy. But then of course the biggest defenders are

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Speaker 1: those Houston fans. Well, here's a he's well, here's a

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Speaker 1: quick story when I turned into fan in some sense.

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Speaker 1: So last year this was, uh, I think it was.

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Speaker 1: It would think it was in August. I think it

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Speaker 1: was in August. I think it was after we had

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Speaker 1: gotten back from the Greenbrier. And this guy named Peter

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Speaker 1: Bukowski is from Wisconsin. I think he writes for SB Nation,

524
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Speaker 1: and he put out a tweet and said something to

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Speaker 1: the extent of Jannis Tennecoopo, Christian Yellich, and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He said, can any state boast of three players of

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Speaker 1: that ilk question mark? And I was like easy, and

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Speaker 1: I started, I laid, I laid out, I like listed

529
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Speaker 1: all the astros and Springer Korea all two day. I

530
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Speaker 1: didn't even mention Bregman. This was kind of before I

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Speaker 1: mean took this is kind of I should have mentioned him,

532
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Speaker 1: but I didn't get the running A characters. I mentioned, uh,

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Speaker 1: Paul and Hardened and hard and obviously I just won

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Speaker 1: the MVP. And then I got to Texans and I

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Speaker 1: mentioned I mentioned Clowney, Hopkins, Watson, Watt and and I

536
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Speaker 1: was like, even you know that's I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so one city can boast of all this? And so

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Speaker 1: he gave back to me and he highlighted what and

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Speaker 1: he went after what basically like I hadn't done anything

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Speaker 1: for two years. He still you still think he's of

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Speaker 1: that quality. And now this isn't training camp. And so

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Speaker 1: I had seen every practice, I'd seen any every repeat took.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, absolutely goes. Oh you're better man

544
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Speaker 1: than me if you want to base it off some

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Speaker 1: preseason reps and practice and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, Okay, we'll see. And then

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Speaker 1: JJ has the year that he had in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: That guy never came at me again. It never came

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Speaker 1: at me again. I was just like, I know, and

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Speaker 1: I do remember that. It's amazing to me that that

551
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Speaker 1: was only a year ago that we were talking about

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Speaker 1: what is JJ Watt going to be like when he returns,

553
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Speaker 1: And we had sort of seen it around the building

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Speaker 1: and it practices, but the rest of the world not.

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Speaker 1: And now it just seems like that's all been put

556
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Speaker 1: to rest. No one's really worried about JJ Watt and

557
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Speaker 1: his health anymore, at least not for the foreseeable future. Well,

558
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Speaker 1: we want to keep him healthy, but it's not right.

559
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: You're not worried about previous injuries, right, obviously, all right,

560
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Speaker 1: So the reason why I bring up the whole MBP

561
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Speaker 1: discussion is because this was a question posed to me

562
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Speaker 1: my first year working with the Texans in twenty thirteen,

563
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Speaker 1: before the start of training camp. I think Mark asked

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Speaker 1: me the question. We used to have this segment called

565
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Speaker 1: Reporters Round Table on Fridays where we would it would

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Speaker 1: be me and some local media people Bryan T. Smith,

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Speaker 1: I think Tanya Game. He was a covering ESPN at

568
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Speaker 1: the time. We would talk about, uh, you know, just

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Speaker 1: different topics with the Texans, and the question came up

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Speaker 1: other than Matt Shob because obviously Shab was coming off

571
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Speaker 1: that twenty twelve season. Who is the one player you

572
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Speaker 1: can't afford to lose? And so think about it. It's

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. You've got JJ Watton's prime Hopkins was Hopkins

574
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Speaker 1: but just not maybe quite there yet. You've got Brian Kushy,

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Speaker 1: You've got like a number of playmakers on defense. And

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Speaker 1: I remember my answer at the time was Dwayne Brown

577
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Speaker 1: because I said, I if Matt Shob is your most

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Speaker 1: valuable player, then I would say the next most valuable

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Speaker 1: player would be the guy that keeps him healthy. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's how I looked at it. So and then of

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Speaker 1: course Matt shob has a season he had, and we

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Speaker 1: all know even a healthy Matt shop but not one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent Matt Shaw was not. You know, even that

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Speaker 1: even that was very detrimental to the overall formula of

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Speaker 1: the Texans in twenty thirteen. So now I want to

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Speaker 1: bring that question back with the twenty nineteen season. Okay,

587
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: let's take Deshaun Watson out of it, Okay, because we

588
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: obviously know how important the quarterback is. And then on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side, let's take let's take JJ Watt out

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Speaker 1: just to balance. Okay, offensively, I know this is easy.

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Speaker 1: I think it is too. But I don't think. I

592
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Speaker 1: don't want to say, but I don't think we have

593
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Speaker 1: a Dwayne Brown on this offensive line yet, and hopefully

594
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Speaker 1: we're going to get one at some point, so I think,

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Speaker 1: and especially with the way that we saw the mixing

596
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: and matching with the offensive line, they're still trying to

597
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Speaker 1: figure out what that that five is going to be.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's anybody there. And and look,

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Speaker 1: if DeAndre Hopkins is out, we're we're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: some in some serious trouble. So Hopkins is I almost

601
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Speaker 1: want to put him with Watson, like if Hopkins is

602
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: not there, oh my gosh. But when we lost Will

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00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Fuller last year, that to me changed changed everything because

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Speaker 1: I felt like by the time we got to week

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00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: eight and was a little bit banged up, but and

606
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: he was gonna miss a few games after reinjuring a hamstring.

607
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: But when Will went out, I just remember going back

608
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Speaker 1: to my office on Thursday night, that Thursday night game

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Speaker 1: against Miami, and I remember we had the TV on

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Speaker 1: in the office and I was reading my observations and

611
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: a nov was doing her thing, and we would stop

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00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: every now and again. And the Thursday night game. What

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Speaker 1: I love about playing that game is afterwards all the

614
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: talks about you, it's about that game. And we dominated

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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter in large part because seventy three yard

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Speaker 1: bomb late in the third quarter. Then Hopkins gets the

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Speaker 1: fifty yard bomb because they were all running with Will,

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Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, we're putting this deep

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Speaker 1: element with this this intermediate element that we had, now

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Speaker 1: we're putting it all together. And then Will gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, we brought it to Marius, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the marriage did some good things. But I know defenses,

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Speaker 1: at that point, we're like, okay, it's Hopkins. We can

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Speaker 1: figure out how to stop the Marius. He's not gonna

625
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: run away from us. If we're in good position and

626
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: we're just physical at the ball and the ball gets there,

627
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: will be fine. But when Will went down, that to

628
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Speaker 1: me is when it changed for defense, and it really

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Speaker 1: came to fruition. I think it changed our offense too,

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Speaker 1: because and I don't know how different it would have

631
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: been had Keiki been healthy all year long. I think

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00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: losing both of them together, yes, it was really was.

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00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: It was very hard to overcome, even with de Marius

634
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: Thomas added to the roster. But I wonder if you've

635
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: got one of the two and not both out, how

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00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: different it would have been. Well, And what if you've

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Speaker 1: got Will Fuller and Keiki Qut healthy and then there's

638
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: no Hopkins? Does that change? I know, I mean, I

639
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: know you cannot replace DeAndre Hopkins, but how much does

640
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: that sort of allieve it? Last year it seemed like

641
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, the wide receivers as a whole, we're

642
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: just so banged up. I don't even want to think

643
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: about life without a hop I don't either because I

644
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: know that. But but you're right. I mean, like I said,

645
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: you did have to think about it a minute when

646
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: those last few games of the year he was testing

647
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: out that ankle pregame. I mean, that's that's why I

648
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: almost want to put hop with Watson, to be honest,

649
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: because if you don't have Hopkins, you know, you still

650
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: got four and he's still gonna be able to create.

651
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: But if you had Hopkins, if you if you didn't

652
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: have hop and you gotta I mean, look with Kiki

653
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: and will you still have got elements that put a

654
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on defenses, I would imagine. And it's

655
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: funny because I had it. I had this conversation with

656
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: some people down at the Senior Bowl and they're like, look,

657
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: it's it's stopping you guys about stopping Hopkins, Like we

658
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: gotta do whatever we gotta do stop Hopkins. Which the

659
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: thing about it isn't that easy because it doesn't matter

660
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: how many guys are near Hopkins. If he gets his

661
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: hands on, he's gonna catch football. I mean, we all

662
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: know that, and that's what makes it difficult. So how

663
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: do you devote coverage to him. What will changes for

664
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: hop is, Okay, we've got this guy over here that

665
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: can fly by everybody. Do we want to give deep

666
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: safety help to that and play it or any like?

667
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: How do we want to play that? Because if we

668
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: try and go one on one with him, we got

669
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: no chance because it'll just run away from everybody. And

670
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: that that's a dilemma you create, and that is Hopkins

671
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: on one side, floors on one side, and the safeties

672
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: are like you, how do you all ate your defensive resources?

673
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: And if one is gone right, it makes that decision

674
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: much easier. So if you take Hopkins out of the

675
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: mix and now it's just Fuller, now you just say

676
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: forget it. We'll let Kiki catch everything underneath. If you're

677
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: going to do that, and we're just gonna put two,

678
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe even three guys around Fuller and make sure he

679
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: doesn't beat as deep, that that's gonna be the way

680
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: we do it. But Fuller creates such an element. We

681
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: saw it really encapsulate in Miami game because he gets

682
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: the deep route for the touchdown and the safeties are

683
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: totally screwed up with what they're doing. So I saw

684
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: this when I went and rewatched the game. The Miami

685
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: secondary coach after that play gets him on the sideline

686
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: and he starts drawing the boarding's banging on the boarding's

687
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: getting real mad. So the next time they run that

688
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: same route, when Fuller goes across the field, three guys

689
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: go with and Hop comes wide open and he walks

690
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: in basically from the torn right. And that's why having

691
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: needing both to be able to do that. So I

692
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: just think Will's element of speed obviously is not something

693
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: that DeAndre has. But teams fear Hopkins because they're like,

694
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: we can we can stop this offense. If we can

695
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: stop Hopkins. Well, I mean, good luck with that. But

696
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, you know, in the

697
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: playoff game, in particular, when hop was banged up, I mean,

698
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: you didn't have to devote as many resources to him.

699
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: You just had to be physical with him because he

700
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: was so he was so beat up. But if you

701
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: put Will in the mix, and you got Kiki in

702
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: the mix, then all of a sudden, you're talking about

703
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: boy underneath. They're quick with Qt, they can go deep

704
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: with Fuller, and with hop you can do pretty much anything.

705
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: So how do we how do we slow that down?

706
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: So the other one I the other one I thought

707
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: of was was Deontay formant. But I thought back to

708
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: the offense last year and I thought, you know, this

709
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: offense was if Fuller were healthy, I think would have

710
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: gone too differently. I think after that game against my

711
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: last year, either a lot of offense you were, you

712
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: really were. You're missing some serious firepower. But I think

713
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: the offense goes to a different level with Fuller versus Foreman.

714
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I think Foreman helps you and improves your offense, but

715
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: with Fuller it just changes your whole dynamic, complete dynamic

716
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: of what it can change for you. So I would

717
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: say Fuller on the offensive side. Now defensively, this is

718
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: a little bit harder for me. The way the defense plays,

719
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: it just seems like everyone has their job to do.

720
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: I know Whitney doesn't put the numbers on the stat sheet,

721
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: but he's very important to what Romeo Crass wants a

722
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: little bit because he does a little bit of everything.

723
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I really felt like two years ago when Whitney went

724
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: out for the season, that was gonna hurt that I'm

725
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna give you two. I'm gonna give you two, and

726
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: you just heard from one of them. Earlier and he

727
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: comes off the field on third down. That's DJ Reader

728
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: this and it really encapsulated for me in week three.

729
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: Week three, we did not play the run well, and

730
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was going back and watching the game,

731
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand why New York ran the ball so

732
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: well on us. And then I watched and I was like, boy,

733
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: that's that's not the DJ Reader. I know. Week four

734
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: on Reader was dumb. I mean like you couldn't move him.

735
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: You could not move him. He tackled anybody from numbers

736
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: to numbers, ran all the ways sideline to make plays.

737
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: Reader's phenomenal. Reader, to me, is the key to our

738
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: entire run defense. You and JJ Watt probably very much

739
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: in agreement on that, because JJ just the way he

740
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: talks about DJ Reader being underappreciated, one of the best

741
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: in the league. He's unbelievable. I mean, his rise came

742
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: really fast. I wonder how much of that was just

743
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: learning under Vince Woolfork. And I mean he's just a

744
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: smart player in general. Playing under Anthony Weaver d line coach,

745
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's really come along well. I think Reader.

746
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: I would put Reader there. Here's the other one, okay,

747
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: and I know he's only going into his second year,

748
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: same Justin. I think Justin Reid just got it. He

749
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: started getting a handle on things last year and now

750
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: we're going into the year two, So I think there

751
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: are things in year two you can start to do

752
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I love there's a there's

753
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: a great shot of Anthony Midgett on NFL Films talking

754
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: to the safeties. It was Andre Howe and Justin Reid

755
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: in the Colts game and he's like, hey, y'all got

756
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: to show those those disguises much much later he's like,

757
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: looks too good for that. And he caught him saying that,

758
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: and it was like, those are the little things like

759
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: showing it to skies a little bit later, you know,

760
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: baiting guys. I watched Jamal Adams on NFL Films. He

761
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: did a sit down with Brian Baldinger and Ron Dwarski

762
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: and he was talking about all the different things that

763
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: he does now that he sees that he's like, oh, yeah,

764
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: I fake this because I knew I was going to

765
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: do this. Those are the things you start doing your

766
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: second year when your talent as Justin Reid, and I

767
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: think he'll do those and he kind of will keep

768
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: that hole back in that's been kind of renovated. He

769
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: can kind of keep that thing together a little bit more.

770
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: And I think, like you renovated house, you kept the foundation,

771
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: and keeping the foundation, he just read system part right,

772
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: just going into year two. But the fact that he's

773
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: able to help to Sean Gibson and guys that are

774
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: more veteran because you know, he knows the system and

775
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: he's learned so much and he's impressed them with how

776
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: smart he is. Right, obviously, I can't wait to see

777
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: what year two has in story from him. I would

778
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: I shuder at the thought of not having and And

779
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: the thing is, I think we have as good an

780
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: inside linebacker group with Zach b Mack and Dylan Cole

781
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: as any group in the NFL. And I see these

782
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: lists of top linebackers in the league and they don't

783
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: include either one of those two. And it's a shame

784
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: to me. But I just feel like the run defense

785
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: upfront without reader and the past defense in the back

786
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: end and just having read around to do the all

787
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: round things the safety's got to do. I just think

788
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: you you would be you'd sort of be lost without them. Well,

789
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: what about in the middle. You bring up Bernardrick McKinney,

790
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: and one of the keys to bernarder McKinney is the

791
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: fact that he's been so healthy through all these years.

792
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: Went to the Pro Bowl. He's he's the quarterback of

793
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: the defense in there, He's lining everybody up. How how

794
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: vital is a guy like that? I feel like he

795
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: doesn't even get talked about enough. I almost want to

796
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: put him up there with what. You know, we talk

797
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: about why. I almost want to put bmack up there

798
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: with what because bmac handles every ounce of the communication.

799
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: And we talked to Romeo Cornell. I thought it was

800
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: interesting talking to Rack about about b Mac and he

801
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of smiled when I asked him about bmac is

802
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: a rookie and b mack now and even even Bernardrick

803
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: talked about it his media session. He talked about being

804
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: able to talk to the back, talk to the front,

805
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: and be able to speak all the same language. Is

806
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: just I mean to have a guy like that. The

807
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: thing I think about with the linebackers, you know, Bernardrick

808
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: and Zach make a ton of tackles. They do a

809
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of that because of DJ Reader, especially in the

810
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: run game. So if you don't have if you don't

811
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: have reader up front, then that's going to slow their progress.

812
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: But from a communication leadership standpoint, if you don't have

813
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: bron Drick McKinney in the middle, and look, I love Zach,

814
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: but the communication part of the defense is huge, and

815
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: that's where b Mac is just he's over the top.

816
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Romeo Cornell. I had asked him

817
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: this offseason what he's really looking for in ots because

818
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: obviously no pads, there's not much else they can do

819
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: on the field, and he said, work on communication. Especially

820
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: with all these new players that have come in, rookies,

821
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: players from other teams, you know, they've got to get

822
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: on the same page. And even with the defenses of

823
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: the past, it's taken a few months for everyone to

824
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: sort of get on the same page. Around Thanksgiving time

825
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: is when we see Romeo Cornell's defense like really hit

826
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: their st locks in. And that's why it was weird

827
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: last year because last year it felt like it was

828
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: locking in, but then you knew it was kind of

829
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: jankie in the back end and it was just like

830
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: man up front really good, like they're getting locked like

831
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: you could see it. But then in the back end,

832
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: they just could cover the way that they wanted to.

833
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: And hopefully this year, if they can get coverage the

834
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: way that they want to, then they can get this

835
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: defense back the way it was in fifteen and sixteen.

836
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: And that was that was such a huge key because

837
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: the rush and the coverage worked so well together in

838
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: fifteen and sixteen. Fifteen when you had wat and and

839
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: JD was kind of banged up. In the sixteen you

840
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: had clowning, but what was banged up, but you still

841
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: had that second you had coverage in the back end,

842
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: so you were still covered, for lack of a better term.

843
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: So if you can get that coverage to work with

844
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: this front seven, then you can have a defensis back

845
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: in the top five where it needs to be for

846
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: this team. All right, Training camp is about a month away.

847
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: The first practice July twenty five. Yeah, a month away

848
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: if you look at the dates. So that's when players

849
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: will be out there right here Houston Methodist Training Center

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Speaker 1: for the first practice. Between now and then, we see

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Speaker 1: players sort of out doing their own things. They're vacationing

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but then they're also working out and

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Speaker 1: getting ready. Are tell me, what are some of the things.

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Speaker 1: I know we always talk about top five storylines or

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Speaker 1: top three storylines heading into training camp, But what are

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Speaker 1: you most excited about for training camp when it comes

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Speaker 1: back to Houston. I think a couple of things. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the progress of guys we didn't see in OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Where are they? So there's always right before we start practice,

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Speaker 1: there's always that comes from from our PR department, and

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Speaker 1: it lists who's on pop, who's on you Know, who's

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Speaker 1: on R, who's on pop, who's you know to know

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Speaker 1: where these guys are to start practice. And sometimes guys

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Speaker 1: end up on the pup list and then one day

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Speaker 1: later they're back on the the they're back on the field,

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Speaker 1: it happens. I'm curious where Will is in his recovery,

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Speaker 1: when we're gonna see him, and what we'll be able

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Speaker 1: to see him do. When when will Matt Khalil get

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Speaker 1: on the field. When will we get a chance to

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Speaker 1: see him? That's that's another one. But I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing I'm looking forward to is the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: rookie's making the jump. So we talked about justin ree

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Speaker 1: and you know Kiqt this he kind of build on

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Speaker 1: what he did the two Jordan's at tight end, Vincent Smith.

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Speaker 1: Where are though those guys in you know, taking the

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Speaker 1: steps up? And if there's one guy that I'm probably

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Speaker 1: really intrigued to seeing as a guy that we haven't

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about going into his third year, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's that time and I saw it at

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Speaker 1: the end of last year, that's Carlos Watkins. This team

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Speaker 1: needs some interior pass rush. They need a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that. I think Carlos Watkins he was that guy

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Speaker 1: Clemson and I started to see it at the end

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Speaker 1: of last year. It needs to come all together this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think a draft pick like Charles a man

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Speaker 1: who can kind of, you know, get that motivation a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But I think Carlos Watkins can be a

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Speaker 1: factor in a pass rush on third down from the inside,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he's got to be this year. So

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing what Carlos Watkins does in

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Speaker 1: his third years. Well well, with no Christian Covington and

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Speaker 1: some changes on the D line, you know, hopefully Carlos

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Speaker 1: Watkins has those opportunities. Last year, he just wasn't even

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Speaker 1: active for a lot of the games, so it's hard

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Speaker 1: to it's hard to opportunity. It was not the opportunity

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Speaker 1: for him to make that, and I think he's sort

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Speaker 1: of been, you know, itching to it back out there

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Speaker 1: on the field and and like you said, it's a

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Speaker 1: big year. From excited to see him, I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see the running backs Deonti Foreman with some pads and

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Speaker 1: then the O line, how it all shapes up for them,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, that's what everybody's gonna be looking at first day.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is looking at the five. What's the five? And

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Speaker 1: it's gonna change, and it's gonna move. Like I said

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Speaker 1: many many months ago, it will change. All right. We

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Speaker 1: got lots lots to look at and a lot could

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Speaker 1: happen in the next month or so. But Johnny, I'd

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Speaker 1: just like to say, you're our MVP. Holding out radio

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Speaker 1: during this very very long offseason, but never a shortage

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Speaker 1: of things to talk about. Appreciate. All Right, that's gonna

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