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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: What is happening? Is this real? Does no one learn

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Speaker 2: from history? Look, I'm not perfect, everyone can agree on that.

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Speaker 2: But I try to look at the mistakes I made

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Speaker 2: in the past, and I tried not to at least

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Speaker 2: repeat those mistakes again. I can make all new mistakes.

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Speaker 2: But this is serious right now. A two time killer,

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Speaker 2: convicted two time killer is on the run. Now wait

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Speaker 2: for it, He's not just on the run. A prison

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Speaker 2: guard was on duty at the time. Danello Cavalcanti, how

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Speaker 2: do I say? Crab walks up the wall. You can

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Speaker 2: see the jailhouse video. He is like, has his arms

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Speaker 2: on one side. It's a very narrow wallway hallway. He's

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Speaker 2: got his arms on one in his feet on the other,

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Speaker 2: and he just climbs up and he gets out through

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Speaker 2: barbed wire fence. A double killer, and so far he

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Speaker 2: has managed to outsmart authorities.

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Speaker 1: For days and days and days.

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Speaker 2: You think he won't kill you to get a place

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Speaker 2: to stay, or to get your vehicle, or to get

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Speaker 2: some money or different clothes, because he will. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's he Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious exem

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Speaker 2: one eleven Bolow be on the lookout. Take a listen

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Speaker 2: to our friends at Fox twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Local state, and federal law enforcement spending hours into the

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Speaker 3: night searching for Danello Calvalcante, the thirty four year old

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Speaker 3: escaping from the Chester County prison just before nine o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 4: He had deployed canine units, drones, and helicopters in this

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Speaker 4: man hunt.

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Speaker 1: You see him, do not approach him.

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Speaker 2: We're asking you please.

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Speaker 1: To contact nine one one.

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Speaker 5: He is considered extremely dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Tom Pancoast lives near the prison.

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Speaker 6: We locked the house up.

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Speaker 7: We're we're in it now.

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Speaker 3: Residents within a six mile radius we're notified of the

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Speaker 3: prison break nearby Westchester University sending out an alert to students.

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Speaker 8: It was honestly pretty shocking.

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Speaker 9: Like I was just in class and I got like

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Speaker 9: a text. Everyone did, and we were just all confused

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Speaker 6: No one knows what to do in this situation, so

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Speaker 6: it's kind of just like one of those where you

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Speaker 6: just stay inside if you can.

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Speaker 2: I will never forget the night the Fulton County Courthouse

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Speaker 2: killer escaped. He was on an elevator with a female

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Speaker 2: sheriff who was armed. He managed to disarm her and

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Speaker 2: get away. I had just flown down to visit my

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Speaker 2: parents from New York, where I lived.

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Speaker 2: That was the first thing that I saw on the

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Speaker 2: knees that I was walking through the airport, and the

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Speaker 2: whole city was in fear because this guy had committed

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Speaker 2: many felonies, including murder, shot up the courthouse, including a judge.

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Speaker 2: I played softball with a court reporter that had been

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Speaker 2: my court reporter when I was still a prosecutor. It

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Speaker 2: just went on and on and on. These people have

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Speaker 2: nothing to lose. Now take a listen to our friends

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Speaker 2: at crime Online.

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Speaker 11: When Dan Yellow Cavacanti escaped the Chester County prison, he

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Speaker 11: was following the path of Igor Bolt, an inmate who

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Speaker 11: was able to escape the same prison less than four

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Speaker 11: months ago. Bolt broke out the prison by scaling a

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Speaker 11: According to the criminal complaint, a Chester County prison surveillance

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Speaker 11: camera captured Bolt's escape. According to the complaint, Bolt was

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Speaker 11: Bolt then runs across the roof, gets out of the

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Speaker 11: on the south side of the prison and more. After

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Speaker 11: Bolt's escape, the prison called in a consultant who recommended

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Speaker 11: razor wire be added to the roof. The prison made

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Speaker 11: The guard on duty when Cavalcanti escape wasn't looking. Cavalcante

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Speaker 11: was on the run for an hour before anyone knew

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Speaker 9: Video released today shows thirty four year old's convicted killer

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Speaker 9: Danello Cavalcante scale a wall. From there, Cavalcante made his

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Speaker 12: At eight fifty one am, Cavalcanti escapes from the prison,

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Speaker 9: Way through more razoroiir and past a guard tower where

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Speaker 9: a guard was monitoring the prison yard where the inmates.

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Speaker 2: Were okay, you're also hearing our friends at NBC TAN

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Speaker 2: and there's one more upday. Listen.

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Speaker 5: The acting warden confirmed a different inmate escaped in a

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Speaker 5: nearly identical fashion in May. In response, the prison installed

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Speaker 5: Cavalcante simply climbed through the wire on his way out,

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Speaker 8: We're hearing that an eyewitness account was since confirmed by

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Speaker 8: some trail camera footage placing Cavalcante in the area of

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Speaker 8: Longwood Gardens, and that's really where a lot of the

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Speaker 8: attention has been today and puts him.

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Speaker 13: Over in the area of Longwood Gardens.

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Speaker 14: Eyewitness accounts and trail camera footage place convicted killer Denello

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Speaker 14: Cavalcante at Longwood Gardens as a recent Thursday at noon.

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Speaker 14: It's where officers with long guns once again descended today.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a lot to figure out, you were hearing

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Speaker 2: from our friends at ABC and Crime Online. Okay, we've

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Speaker 2: got an all star panel to make sense of what's

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Speaker 2: happening right now. But I can tell you this, he

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Speaker 2: is long gone from that area. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: want to go to Alexis Terschak Crime online dot com

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter joining us. But Alexis, hold on just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm being joined by an expert. He is

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Speaker 2: called a geographic profiler. A geographic profiler. Now, we've heard

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Speaker 2: of FBI profilers and these renowned profilers, and they basically

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Speaker 2: am I wrong? They always say, oh, it's an introvert

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Speaker 2: of white male. That just always this is what they say,

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Speaker 2: and they're usually right. But that said, have you heard

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Speaker 2: of a geographic profiler? I'm going to try to figure

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Speaker 2: out why in the Hey, this is the second guy

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Speaker 2: and a couple of months to escape the same way,

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Speaker 2: and it's on video. What were the jailers doing while

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Speaker 2: this guy is crab walking up the wall, through the

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Speaker 2: barbed wire and out. When you hear this guy's record,

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Speaker 2: Douglas McGregor is joining us. You can find him at

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Speaker 2: the geo profiler. Douglas, quickly, what is geographic profiling? And

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Speaker 2: what can you tell us about this guy? He's way

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Speaker 6: Geographic profiling quickly, I'm just I look at the spatial, temporal, environmental,

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Speaker 2: Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa? Wait, what the what and the

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Speaker 2: what and the what and the what. I got to

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Speaker 2: The what?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So this spatial for space, the temporal, so time, environmental,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to have to break that down for

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Speaker 2: us to domies. Go ahead. That would be me spatial, temporal, environmental,

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Speaker 2: and geographic aspects of this guy, Danelle Cavalcante. Go ahead,

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Speaker 2: thirty four years old and he's changed his appearance. I'm

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Speaker 15: Go ahead. Sure.

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Speaker 6: So I mean to start off just the prison itself

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Speaker 6: little while. I mean that comes down to environmental criminology

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Speaker 6: through environmental design is one of the main concepts you

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Speaker 6: consider when designing any prison. Or neighborhood community, whatever it is,

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Speaker 6: shopping mall. And obviously they have to you know, they

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Speaker 2: But did you say environmental criminology? Was that your terminology

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Speaker 15: Correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay? In other words, when you build a jail, you

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Speaker 6: Exactly, that'd be your number one.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you so far, okay.

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Speaker 6: And just so that's just the environmental design of the prison.

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Speaker 6: Moving on to the geographic profiling and looking at a

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Speaker 6: may have had a direction he wanted to go, which

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Speaker 2: Why do you say he probably wanted to go north,

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Speaker 6: Because stage two for a for you know, somebody who's

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Speaker 2: Went on with so geographic profiling. First they're looking at survival,

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Speaker 2: But he was driven south. Okay, I'm with you so

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Speaker 6: So he probably had a plan to go north that

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Speaker 6: looks like he took the Route fifty two all the

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Speaker 2: you're hearing Douglas McGregor, a renowned geographic profiler. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't heard of that, this is who they call in

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grease.

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Speaker 1: What happened in the jail?

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Speaker 2: I understand that the alcove, as I was calling it,

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Speaker 2: a small hallway, it's got to be small because this

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Speaker 2: up the alcove or is I called the hallway? And

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Speaker 2: Jackie's just pointing out correctly that the alcove itself is

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Speaker 2: in the shadows. The lookout is in the sun, so

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Speaker 2: the lookout wasn't seeing there correctly, But correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. In May, a guy did the same exact thing,

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Speaker 2: and all the jail did was put barbed wire up

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Speaker 2: on the top and Cavalcante just went right through the

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Speaker 2: barbed wire. What are they thinking? What's the guard doing?

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Speaker 10: Well, apparently the guard they have soaked.

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Speaker 7: The guard was originally put.

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Speaker 10: On leave as they did an investigation, and then the

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Speaker 10: guard what you know what, well.

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Speaker 2: What I don't care about him being on leave? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I hope he's watching right now. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: guy's at least a double killer. Have you seen you

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Speaker 2: know what? Hold on? Who is Cavalcanti? That's what we

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Speaker 2: need to figure out. To figure out. Look, if you

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Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do, look at what he's

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Speaker 2: already done. Let's start friends at ABC Philadelphia and crime Online.

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Speaker 11: In Brazil's northern state of Tokenteines, there's a small town

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Speaker 11: gang member Dan Yellow Cavalcante is wanted for the murder

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Speaker 11: related to a vehicle repair. Kavacante allegedly shoots the victim

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Speaker 11: six times, steals his cell phone, and it's seen fleeing

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Speaker 11: Cavalcante takes off. Cavalcante's plan to go from Arto Rico

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're hearing our friend Dave Mackett Crime Online. Let

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Speaker 2: that sink in. Just for a moment with me. Matthew Mangino,

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Speaker 2: high profile lawyer, former prosecutor, former district attorney in Lawrence County, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Author of the Executioner's Toll, the Crimes, theres Trials, Appeals,

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Speaker 2: last Meals and Final Words, executions of forty six people

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Speaker 2: across the US. You got me at final Meals. But

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Speaker 2: Matthew Mangino, did you hear that? In Brazil this guy

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Speaker 2: gets in an argument over paying the repair for a

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Speaker 2: He doesn't go to jail. He takes off his plan

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Speaker 11: Shortly after arriving in the United States, Daniello cavia Conte

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Speaker 11: another resilient national, Deborah Brandeo. Brandeo is a single mother

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Speaker 11: In one incidence, Cavalcante allegedly bit Brandeo on the lip,

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Speaker 2: White a minute, it gets worse, CBS Philly.

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Speaker 16: If Shaster County man is behind bars tonight after he's

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Speaker 16: accused of killing his ex girlfriend in front of her

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Speaker 16: Brondeo's seven year old daughter and three year old son

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Speaker 6: The suspect for police.

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Speaker 4: The pain these children and all of miss Brandeo's loved

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Speaker 3: Cavalcanti was convicted earlier this month of stabbing to death

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Speaker 3: Last week, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

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Speaker 3: He was awaiting transfer to a state prison when he

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Speaker 11: At first, I didn't think it was a big deal

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Speaker 6: He really has nothing to lose, So this is like

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Speaker 2: That is who we're talking about, Danello Cavalcanti. He guns

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Speaker 2: down a guy, hitting him six times in Native Brazil,

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Speaker 2: then comes here to the US. He beats and bats

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Speaker 2: She calls for protection. Not long after that, he stabs

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Speaker 2: they're going to have that image and their heads the

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Speaker 2: this is the guy, some prison guard with his head

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Speaker 17: I mean, there's a lot of questions here, but my

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Speaker 17: why was he still in the Chester County Jail. I mean,

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Speaker 18: A county jail, and he was convicted, he was sentenced.

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Speaker 6: He should have been shipped out of.

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Speaker 18: That jail to a state correctional facility immediately. And the

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Speaker 18: state correctional facilities. Leaving him there, knowing that this place

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Speaker 2: Joining me is doctor Joy L. Crawsin, very well known

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Speaker 2: Blue Ball Institute, author, Operation SOS, Doctor Jory, thank you

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Speaker 2: But this is the guy that we're not talking about

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Speaker 2: Otis and Mayberry, Okay, that gets too much to drink

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Speaker 2: and what does he do? Start beating, savagely eating his

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Speaker 2: they're written on. And now she has been stabbed, multiple

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Speaker 2: doctor Jorgean What kind of person murders over a car

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Speaker 19: Let me add a different paradigm here. You know, we're

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Speaker 19: You know, we use like personality profiles. You know, that's

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Speaker 19: operational code analysis. People operate by codes. This guy's a

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Speaker 19: That's the code that they live by. You don't really

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Speaker 19: just like Douglas was saying, the time factor is very important,

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Speaker 19: he probably knew that he had an limited amount of

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Speaker 19: So you know, that's kind of a breakdown. He was

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Speaker 19: Now my concern is he's out on the street Okay,

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Speaker 19: you saw the murderer down there. I mean somebody that

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Speaker 2: So you're basically saying he won't go back alive. I'm

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Speaker 2: and has a tep to get away, and he's doing

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Speaker 2: a pretty good job of it so far. I'm embarrassed

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Speaker 2: a listen to our cut twelve. This is Lieutenant Colonel

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Speaker 13: Police PSP was made aware of a sighting of Cavalcante

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Speaker 2: So he gets away from the Longwood Gardens area. I

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Speaker 2: want to bring in IRV Brandt, Senior Inspector with US

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Speaker 2: Marshall Service International Investigations Chief Inspector DJ, author of solo

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Speaker 2: shot cursonably Stone, also flying solo top of the world.

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Speaker 2: IRV Brant has handled escape pees all around the world

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Speaker 2: that go on the run, So we know he leaves

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Speaker 2: that perimeter, IRV Brant, But take a listen to what

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Speaker 2: more wa've learned.

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Speaker 13: After an extensive search, the vehicle was discovered abandoned in

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Speaker 13: a field behind a barn in East Nantmeil Township at

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Speaker 13: ten forty am. Investigators have been searching the area around

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Speaker 13: that location since that time.

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Speaker 21: Cavalcante has brought the search here to Phoenixville and with

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Speaker 21: it fear. Look at those surveillance pictures overnight, good look

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Speaker 21: at them.

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Speaker 1: You can see troopers.

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Speaker 21: Say this is Cavalcante changing his appearance, clean shaven, with

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Speaker 21: a green or yellow hooded sweatshirt and black baseball cap.

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Speaker 21: He is still wearing green prison pants at this time.

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Speaker 21: This sighting sparked an active search. At about four am.

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Speaker 22: State police believe sometimes Saturday, the fugitive stole a refrigerated

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Speaker 22: van with keys inside from a local dairy farm. Just

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Speaker 22: after five this morning, state police realized the vehicle was

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Speaker 22: stolen from the Bailey's dairy farm and at ten forty

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Speaker 22: in the morning it was discovered in East Nantmeil Township.

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Speaker 2: So let me understand this r Brandt. He's managed to

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Speaker 2: steal refrigerated dairy truck having the keys in them.

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Speaker 15: That's correct, Nancy. And you'll notice he used the vehicle

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Speaker 15: until they ran out of gas. The search for an

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Speaker 15: escape prisoner and I've done hundreds of investigations into prison escapes.

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Speaker 15: They're all unique, but this one is particularly unique because

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Speaker 15: he's a Brazilian, hasn't He wasn't born in this country,

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00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 15: he wasn't raised in this country. He doesn't know anything

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Speaker 15: about this country. He only knows the area that he's from. There.

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Speaker 15: English is in his first language. He's people will say, well,

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Speaker 15: he's out now, he got a vehicle. He's long gone

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Speaker 15: Long Gone, Towear Long Gone to Weear where people speak Portuguese,

466
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Speaker 15: where he knows people. He's got to have a plan. Now,

467
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 15: at first the plan was let's escape from prison. I'll

468
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Speaker 15: probably get shot going over the wall, but if I

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Speaker 15: make it, I'll figure out something after that. Now that

470
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 15: he's out and he's free, he went. The first thing

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Speaker 15: that he did was went to former cod workers in

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Speaker 15: the same area. And you with to say, well, that's ridiculous,

473
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Speaker 15: you know, why would he do that? Why not just

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Speaker 15: get away? Well, he has no other choice. It's his

475
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Speaker 15: only means of support. And the longer he stays out,

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Speaker 15: and Nancy, this is highly concerning, is he's going to

477
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 15: become more and more desperate and he is going to

478
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Speaker 15: take risk. He's going to try to rob someone. He's

479
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Speaker 15: going to need money, he's going to need a vehicle.

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Speaker 15: He's going to target people. He's going to target someone elderly,

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Speaker 15: he's going to target a woman, he's going to target

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Speaker 15: someone alone. And because he's going to need a vehicle.

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Speaker 15: And then eventually he's going to get a hold of

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Speaker 15: a weapon. And he's not he's a killer. He's not

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Speaker 15: afraid to use a weapon to get what he wants,

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Speaker 15: and one of your guests said, he's probably not going

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Speaker 15: to be taken alive. I agree, He's probably not going

488
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Speaker 15: to be taken alive. This is an extremely dangerous person.

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Speaker 15: I can't stress that enough. Anyone with any information they

490
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 15: need to contact police. They need to help law enforcement

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Speaker 15: get this person into custody. And the sooner the better.

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Speaker 2: The way you just broke that down or Brant is chilling.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the next lady coming out of the

494
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Speaker 2: target and the parking deck with her kid and her

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Speaker 2: arms full of stuff, or the grocery store, or an

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Speaker 2: elderly person getting in their car or going into their home.

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Speaker 2: It will be child's play for him to overtake a

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Speaker 2: lone female or a female with a child, or an

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Speaker 2: elderly And we see also his changing. He will shoot

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Speaker 2: you dead, he will stab you dead. It doesn't matter

501
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Speaker 2: if he knows you, or if you're his lover for

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Speaker 2: months on end and her children are watching. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: You were earlier hearing our friends at six ABC and

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Speaker 2: NBC twelve in the Search for This Guy.

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Priabantaje is joining me. Bord certified forensic pathologists at

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Speaker 2: Anchor Forensic Pathology Consulting and that's where you can find

508
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Speaker 2: her Anchor Forensic Pathology dot com. Doctor Pria, you have

509
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Speaker 2: handled so many homicide cases. Very often we see people,

510
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: especially those that are not as they say, organized killers,

511
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Speaker 2: like they have a plan. This is a disorganized killer.

512
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: He is trying to survive and be on the run.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have any particular mo. Have you witnessed that before,

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Speaker 2: doctor Priya.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean he's it's been said number of times.

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Speaker 23: But he's especially dangerous now because before he had like

517
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Speaker 23: an emotional connection to his you know, the girlfriend who

518
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Speaker 23: we killed, and look how heinously he murdered her right

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Speaker 23: thirty eight times, stabbing in front of kids. Now the

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Speaker 23: desperations even added on top. I'm terrified of what he's

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Speaker 23: going to do because it's no hold barred.

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Speaker 2: Now, Guys, it's not the first time. Take listen to

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Speaker 2: our cut thirty two our friensic Kiro.

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Speaker 24: Understandably, security is extremely tight here at the Pensacola City

525
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 24: Jailed on the second floor of this building, Ted Bundy

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Speaker 24: is under constant guard. Authorities are very well aware of

527
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Speaker 24: the fact that Bundy has twice escaped from jail, and

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Speaker 24: now that they know who he is, they are not

529
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Speaker 24: about to let him slip away again. When he was

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Speaker 24: arrested shortly after midnight on Wednesday, he was just considered

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Speaker 24: a belligerent speeder.

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Speaker 6: He fought with.

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Speaker 24: Arresting officer David Lee when Lee stopped him for speeding.

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Speaker 24: Only late last night, following FBI fingerprint identification did Pensacola

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Speaker 24: Police learn they had captured one of the most wanted and,

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Speaker 24: according to the FBI, most dangerous criminals in the country.

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Speaker 2: This case not once but twy Once he escaped through

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Speaker 2: the ceiling of jail. The second time he jumped out

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Speaker 2: a window of the law library in a cournhouse. It's

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Speaker 2: not just Bundy, remember this guy. Take listen to ABC

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Speaker 2: and our cut thirty four.

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Speaker 25: A man who famously escaped two Mexican prisons. El Choppo's

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Speaker 25: seen here slipping beneath his prison cell, going through the

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Speaker 25: floor of the shower, disappearing into the elaborate mile long tunnel.

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Speaker 25: We saw that tunnel firsthand in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Even the motorbike that was waiting for.

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Speaker 12: Him in the tunnel to escape.

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Speaker 2: This is the house where he just walked into and disappeared.

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Speaker 25: But months later, Mexican authorities would storm in Chopler's hiding,

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Speaker 25: grabbing him outside one of his tunnels, turning him over

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Speaker 25: to the US.

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Speaker 2: Guys El CHAPO. Incredible example of an escape. Ted Bundy

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Speaker 2: escapes twice. But what about one of the biggest Emma's

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Speaker 2: notorious jail house guard fails. Okay, wait for it, I

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Speaker 2: cut thirty five CBC.

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Speaker 26: The New York Times is citing several unnamed law enforcement

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Speaker 26: and prison officials who are saying that the two people

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Speaker 26: go guarding Epstein's unit fell asleep the night that Epstein

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Speaker 26: apparently took his own life, and that they didn't check

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Speaker 26: on him for three hours when they were actually supposed

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Speaker 26: to be doing those checks.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Epstein is dead and along with him all

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Speaker 2: the information of any code defendants or other victims. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because the guards fell asleep and were shopping online? Is

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Speaker 2: that what happened in Kamacante's escape? And of course there's more.

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Speaker 2: How could you not notice a guy who's almost seven

567
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Speaker 2: feet tall is having a sex affair with another warden? Hello,

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Speaker 2: Casey White cut thirty one.

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Speaker 27: Waay, after more than seventy two hours of this, now

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Speaker 27: major crime investigation by the US Marshals and state other

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Speaker 27: federal partners, is that there is now a.

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Speaker 12: Warrant out for Vicky White, a warrant for her role

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Speaker 12: in this escape. They now say that she was involved

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Speaker 12: in the escape and they have a warrant for her

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Speaker 12: arrest as well as they continue their search for this

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Speaker 12: accused murderer, Casey White here in Laudreale County now a

577
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Speaker 12: man hunt that reaches across the entire country. The sheriff

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00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 12: confirming for US that they now believe the two had

579
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Speaker 12: some sort of romantic relationship and that Vicky White was

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Speaker 12: involved in this escape.

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Speaker 2: But nobody noticed they were having sex. And then this

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Speaker 2: whole king it gets out, Casey White gets out with

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Speaker 2: her help, and of course deaths ensue, and of course

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Speaker 2: there's the prison same stress. We can't forget about her.

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Speaker 2: Cut thirty seven CBS six.

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Speaker 28: The former prison seemstress who helped two convicted murderers escape

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Speaker 28: from the maximum security prison and Dani Mora, has now

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Speaker 28: been released. Joyce Mitchell admitted to smuggling hack saw blades

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Speaker 28: to inmates Richard Matt and David Sweat that they used

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Speaker 28: to cut through cell walls at the Clinton Correctional Facility

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Speaker 28: back in twenty fifteen. There escape sparked a week's long

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Speaker 28: young manhunt that ended when authorities shot and killed Nat

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Speaker 28: and shot and recaptured Sweat. Mitchell's initial sentence was up

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Speaker 28: to seven years behind bars.

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Speaker 2: Because no one was paying attention that the prison seemstress

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Speaker 2: was going in a closet and having sex with the

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Speaker 2: killer and they escaped. Once again a prison fail. Here's

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Speaker 2: another thing to take into account. Alexis Terrestchik joining me

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Speaker 2: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. This guy, when he

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Speaker 2: escaped from another homicide in Brazil, he lived in the jungle.

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Speaker 2: He survived in the jungle. Reminds me of Eric Rudolph,

602
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Speaker 2: the Olympic bomber who stayed on the down load for

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Speaker 2: three years along the Appalachian Trail before he blew up

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Speaker 2: to abortion clinics. Remember that shrapnel hitting my investigator during

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Speaker 2: that time. This guy has lived in the jungle, Alexis Terreschuk.

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Speaker 7: He has, and the thing is and he knows how

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Speaker 7: to survive because he has broken into one house that

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Speaker 7: we know up so far, and you know what he

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Speaker 7: stole from there?

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Speaker 10: He stole a bag of fruit He's not even really

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Speaker 10: stealing money or jewelry to sell or anything like that.

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Speaker 10: He is stealing stuff because he knows what he needs

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Speaker 10: to survive, and it's fruit. He didn't take the you know,

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Speaker 10: free does or anything like that. So he is very

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Speaker 10: aware of how you can live in the wilderness.

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Speaker 2: Hey, alexas he's changed, we know he's changed his appearance.

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Speaker 2: He's popped up on either one or two ring doorbell

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Speaker 2: cams and a hunter's cam that's set up. You know,

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Speaker 2: you put up a hunter's cam in it's motion activated.

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Speaker 2: He's caught on a hunter's cam out in the woods.

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Speaker 2: How has he changed his appearance, Alexis he so when he.

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Speaker 10: Escaped from prison he had a beard and a mustache

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Speaker 10: and now he is completely clean.

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Speaker 29: Shaven, completely So he clearly had access to a raider

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Speaker 29: of some sort of running water which he could find

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Speaker 29: in the wilderness if there was a lake or a

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Speaker 29: river or something. But he definitely looks very different.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good point, alexis, how the hey, did

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Speaker 2: he get a clean shave? How else has he changed

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Speaker 2: his appearance? Where did he go to get a clean shave?

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Speaker 2: We know that he has gotten into refrigerated dairy truck

632
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Speaker 2: keys in it. But now somehow he's managed to shave

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Speaker 2: and change his appearance. I'm looking right at him. He

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Speaker 2: looked right up at the hunter camp. Did he have

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Speaker 2: those clothes? Because he's wearing a hoodie with a baseball

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Speaker 2: hat under it, and he's clean shaven.

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Speaker 7: And he's wearing prison pants and when he escapes he

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Speaker 7: was wearing he wasn't wearing those, he was wearing the

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Speaker 7: blue shorts. So did somebody you know, from prison, did

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Speaker 7: he sneak out the clothes in his in his uniform?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably, and the prison guard wouldn't have known anything.

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Speaker 2: Okay to you, Douglas McGregor, geographic profiler, look into your

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Speaker 2: crystal ball, drawn all your education and expertise. Where's this

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Speaker 2: skuy headed best?

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Speaker 6: At the moment, he's still in the life cycle of

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Speaker 6: a fugitive, which it's not linear, it's cyclical. And after

647
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Speaker 6: looking for resources up in the Phoenixville area he didn't

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Speaker 6: find them, law enforcement closed in and he reverted back

649
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 6: to stage one, which is survival and getting the van.

650
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 6: So now he's going to be looking for resources again.

651
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 6: So law enforcement's going to have to do that social

652
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: network analysis and they're going to have to see where

653
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 6: he's going to go next. Is he going to go

654
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 6: towards a familiar community again Portuguese speaking Brazilian? Is he

655
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 6: going to go towards another acquaintance. I mean he went

656
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 6: to Virginia before, and there's an acquaintance slash family member

657
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 6: down in Virginia, so he may go there, but he

658
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: is going to be looking for those resources because the stealing,

659
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 6: the robbery, theft, it's all that's just a short term

660
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 6: solution and it's risky.

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00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: Yes, very very risky. And or Brandt remember the Fulton

662
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: County court house killer actually went into a woman's home.

663
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: He killed people along the way, but he went into

664
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: a woman's home and held her hostage for food and

665
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: stayed in there for a period of time. What's his

666
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: next move.

667
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 15: Of Brant Nancy, That's what you said earlier about it

668
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 15: being chilling. I only see this unfolding one way, and

669
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 15: it's badly. I did the Jody Thompson prison escape investigation

670
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 15: where he escaped from prison in Northern Nevada, and I

671
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 15: tracked him in Las Vegas as he was robbing bars.

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00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 20: And I set up surveillance on every associate he had,

673
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 20: every family member he had and then ended up in

674
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 20: a chase with two teams of SWAT, with helicopters, with.

675
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 15: Canine units, and him doing a home invasion and taking hostages.

676
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 15: What I expect here is law enforcement's going to inclose in,

677
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 15: He's going to become desperate, he's gonna end up going

678
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 15: into somebody's home, and he's gonna end up and you're

679
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 15: going to end up with a hostage situation where he's

680
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 15: likely going to die.

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Speaker 2: There is a twenty thousand dollars reward for information leading

682
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: to the capture of Danello Cavalcanti, a double killer that

683
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: we know of. Likely targets females alone or with children

684
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: or the elderly. Tip lines seven one, seven, five six

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00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: two two nine eight seven eight hundred four seven two

686
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: eight four seven seven one of the best tip lines

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00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: the US Marshals eight seven, seven nine two six eight

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Speaker 2: three three two repeat toll free eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: two six eight three three to two. Cavalcante you can run,

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Speaker 2: but you can't hide. Goodbye friends,