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Speaker 1: fresh back from vacation that was. Yeah, we're freshed, he's tenned,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good to get away. We had a blast.

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Speaker 2: It was wonderful. I mean, minus what airlines are able

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Speaker 2: we got home about two am last night. So I'm

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Speaker 2: dragging a little and I've had five different shows today,

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Speaker 2: but I'm like to get back on the air. I

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Speaker 2: had a phenomenal vacation. Listened to two shows with you

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Speaker 2: and Rob. They were fantastic. I mean I just started

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Speaker 2: But he fits in great. So it shows how replaceable

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Speaker 1: Well not we you know again, I enjoyed doing the

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Speaker 1: So, uh yeah, not a lot happening, No, it's and

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Speaker 2: But I mean, that's what's going on the league right now.

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Speaker 2: they're thinking about who should be right back six verse seven?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that from Cooper though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how good do you want your team to be?

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them. Yeah, but it's sure nice

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Speaker 1: To have that go to kind of guy. We're going

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Speaker 1: to get to a break. Here's the Matt Williamson. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. It is good to be back in the

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. It's beautiful outside. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: I went somewhere.

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Speaker 2: My view on the weather is very distorted. It's not

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Speaker 2: crystal clear and gorgeous and turch and keika. So I

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Speaker 2: just heard it was hot while was gone, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was hot. But we'll be back with more on

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Speaker 1: the Drive right after this Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson back from vacation and Matt.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned some of those lists and Aaron Shots has

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Speaker 1: come out with one. Actually there's multiple contributors on this

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Speaker 2: Ago with.

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Speaker 1: A Profile Focus or it's either Pro Football Focus or

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Speaker 1: the thirty third team had their list of the best rosters.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, and yeah, I know we did talk about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ESPN has put theirs together. We'll see where the

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Speaker 1: Steelers rank on that one. But looking here, as we

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Speaker 2: These are always hard, just for one simple reason is

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Speaker 2: I rather have fifty three New York Giants or Pat

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Speaker 2: Mahome maybe Bat Mahomes, you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 2: those guys are that valuable? I mean, would you rather

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Speaker 1: Well, basketball is different though, because it's.

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Speaker 2: Every yea yeah, I say, I think you want lebron

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Speaker 2: you know, week four, Week five, when Malik Neighbors doesn't

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Speaker 2: almost nowhere to go but down. It's the time of

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Speaker 2: eternal optimism. But it's in the bottom part. I don't

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Speaker 2: Arizona's defense doesn't have anything anymore. I mean there's some

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Speaker 1: At number thirty one, the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers come in at twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: It's being kind of kind to them. It's better than

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Speaker 1: The offensive line should be better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so not good. The Cardinals come in at twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Names, A lot of young yeah guys. Yeah, yeah, projected

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Speaker 1: to starters for them at twenty seven. Is the new

436
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 1: England Patriots.

437
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: I think the defense is defense is solid and pretty

438
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 2: much in place. There might not be a star there.

439
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 2: I bet they don't have a top hundred player on

440
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 2: the team. I mean, Barmore is probably the closest thing.

441
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Barmore's probably about it.

442
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 2: And the offenses.

443
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 1: They just gave Ramandre Stevenson a boatload of money, right,

444
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,159
Speaker 1: is that the best use of your.

445
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: Well, they have so much they do, mean, but you'll

446
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 2: forget there is a floor. You have to spend some.

447
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: But do you want to invest in a running back

448
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 2: that's not gonna be good when you're good?

449
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 1: Right, that's the problem. Yeah, yeah, I mean there, I.

450
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Speaker 2: Would think it's gonna be a very heavy offseasons.

451
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: Listen to these wide receivers. I know it's bad to

452
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Speaker 1: Mario Douglas, Kendrick Bourn, Jalen Polk. Yeah, that's what you're

453
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Speaker 1: gonna run out there.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at least you drafted Polk and Baker

455
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Speaker 2: one of the two maybe hits you need. Neither one

456
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 2: is right gonna be a one? Yeah, You're and the

457
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: O line is Chookes is maybe your left tackle.

458
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Speaker 1: And that's what's projected right now, one of their.

459
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 2: Weakest spots, like counter Henry's one of your best starters.

460
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Speaker 2: Is okay, I'm an average starter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh at twenty seven or a twenty six, I'm sorry,

462
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: are the Raiders?

463
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're starting to take a tear up

464
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Speaker 2: here a little bit. Yeah, they get some pieces, They

465
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: have some pieces. Their weapons are good pass catchers. Left

466
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Speaker 2: side of the O line now looks better. Right side horrendous.

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Speaker 2: You know, Wilkins and Crosby are going to cause a

468
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Speaker 2: lot of problems. At least there's some stars on defense,

469
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: but there's a hole John Jenkins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like they'll be okay.

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Speaker 2: They could use a handful of defensive starters. Yeah. Maybe

472
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: they're right tackle, right guard, and but also their quarterback

473
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: situation might be the worst in the league for this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah at twenty five the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, I have quarterback questions. Yeah, and I would hold

476
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: that over them heavy for this exercise. They were more

477
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: aggressive than I would be because off seasons, when you're

478
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: super aggressive, especially spending first, usually don't work out. But

479
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: they added Snead and Ridley and dudes. You know. I mean, so,

480
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Speaker 2: I think the roster is a lot better than the

481
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: one v Abel was forced to work with. The defense

482
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: is a little weaker than you'd think, though. Yeah. We

483
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: did a lot on uh podcast with the Titans guy

484
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: and I pulled up. There are lads, I'm like, you're

485
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: off the ball linebackers or dudes I've never heard of.

486
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Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's pretty rough.

487
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Speaker 1: It's pretty rough. Yeah, at twenty four. Everybody's darling this offseason.

488
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Speaker 1: The Chargers, that's fair. Yeah, that's where they're at.

489
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Speaker 2: They got an no line in the quarterback, a couple

490
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Speaker 2: other pieces that aren't young. Yeah, maybe even Conky you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the guys that they do

492
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Speaker 1: have on defense. Their defensive tackles are Morgan Fox in

493
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Speaker 1: Auto Bannia.

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Speaker 2: I think that's in contention for worst position group in

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 1: It's really bad.

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Speaker 2: It's really bad. Yeah, really bad. They did nothing there

498
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 2: they did.

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Speaker 1: You mean you start your two starting inside backers or

500
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Denzel Perriman and Nick Neeman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right up the middle there. Oh yeah, and you're

502
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Speaker 2: counting on Bosa and Mac who aren't young.

503
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Speaker 1: And you know, haven't been able to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: No, Like Samuel and Darwin are good players, but the

505
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: defense is going the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: At twenty three the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone have worst pass catchers in the Chargers?

508
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Speaker 1: Maybe the Patriots?

509
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Speaker 2: Maybe Patriots probably does. Yeah, Radri's probably do was this one?

510
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: This is the Vikings. It's twenty three twenty.

511
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Speaker 2: I guess you can't give him a great quarterback grade.

512
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: That's that's what Sam Darnold projected as to start.

513
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet he starts Week one. Defense doesn't have

514
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: a lot of star power. I mean, coach Flores did

515
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: a tremendous job with those guys. Like I just heard

516
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: this the other day. They led the league in three

517
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: man pressures, and they led the league in six man pressures. Like, well,

518
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: they're just throwing a bunch of stuff, and I'm not

519
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: gonna play conventionally, you know, Like there's a saying that

520
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: the greatest swordsman in the world doesn't fear the second

521
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: greatest swordsman. He fears the unconventional swordsman, you know what

522
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Like the knuckleball pitcher, you know, Like, so

523
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: they're just throwing things at a fan, being aggressive. So

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Speaker 2: that's what That's what the Cardinals did do with nobody

525
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: on defense.

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Speaker 1: At twenty two are the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's a pretty average group with a

528
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: below average starting quarterback. Yeah what if Evans hits a wall?

529
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, things get defenses average at best. I

530
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: mean it's not a lot of star power there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how much players has.

532
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: Right yeah. Yeah, nose tackle and an older linebacker probably

533
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: your best too, and winfield play. Yeah yeah. Yeah, it's

534
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: not a bad group, but they won division last year. Yeah,

535
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: says more about the division than the Bucks.

536
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: At twenty one, the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: I think we're in average land, like, not a lot

538
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Speaker 2: of massive stars. I don't see a ton of holes

539
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: on the Colts. Quarterbacks are hard conversation for them, but

540
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: you can't give it a good grade, right, I mean again,

541
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: a lot of their stars are like guards and running backs.

542
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: That's not the positions and that's all.

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Speaker 1: Those you know, second and third and fourth round pick,

544
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Speaker 1: those are the positions that you're going to be able

545
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: to fill.

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00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even like when Leonard was a star

547
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Speaker 2: and you know, Buckner's up in age. It's not a

548
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: bad group, but who's the difference makers? You know there's

549
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: not a Ton Pittman, but is he a difference maker? Yeah?

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00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: At twenty the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair too. I thought this was harsh

552
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: and I don't know where we saw it, but I

553
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: think we talked about this a week or two ago.

554
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Back to our lists, some of them is the worst

555
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: OH line in the league. I'm not saying it's good.

556
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's the worst.

557
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: Talking to Talisa Fujuaga, Nick Salvadari, Eric McCoy, Caesar Royez,

558
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning.

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Speaker 2: And that's without count on ram checking anyway, which he's

560
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: hard to count on. I mean, I get that. I

561
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: do like their wide outs. They got corners. Front seven

562
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: is getting old. That's where they belong.

563
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even the running backs role.

564
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Kamar is sitting out or making some

565
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: kind of sting.

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Speaker 1: He wants more money, like the dude, you're already overpaid.

567
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 2: I think he should get cut. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

568
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: if I were the Cowboys, I'd wait till he got

569
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: cut and cars just the guy.

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Speaker 1: At nineteen, the Atlanta Falcons.

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00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: Offense looks strong. Defense has Baits and Terrell and a

572
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: bad front seven. Who is a new coordinator there, Robinson,

573
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: that's right. The offensive is yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, came

574
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: over with the Rams. So I think the coordinator stuff

575
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: will be fine. I think the offense will be fine.

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00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: You look at the so.

577
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: That a pass rush since the eighth grade picnic.

578
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get Drake London at wide receiver, but then

579
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: at start now Mooney, Rondell.

580
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: More, it's the little guys. Yeah yeah, then he pits

581
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: to be the two right kind of what needs to happen,

582
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: and Jean get a lot of touches too.

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00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: But they have a good old line they do, yeah, they.

585
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Do, but just no difference makers on defense once again.

586
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: Their pass rush they've been searching forever, which hey, I mean,

587
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: we can fight about Pennix or not, but you could

588
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: have your choice of pass rushers, you know, or traded

589
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: that for Brian Burns.

590
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: They're projected starting edge rushers are Lorenzo Carter and Zach Harrison.

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00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: They won't combine for ten sacks, no, you know, I

592
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: mean I remember two years ago t J. White had

593
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: more sacks than the Falcons and it hasn't done any better. No,

594
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: and Jared's getting old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that brings us to number eighteen. They had the

596
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers ranked at eighteen.

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00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: I would certainly of the Steelers over anyone we mentioned, correct,

598
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: I mean, and probably others, but I mean, maybe we

599
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: leave it at that at the break or whatever. But yeah,

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00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean I think they're clearly better than the teams mentioned.

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Speaker 1: I don't if they're eighteenth the eighteenth best, I think

602
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: that seems a little harsh.

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00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 2: That front seven, it's pretty loaded loaded, I mean, like

604
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: one of the best front sevens in the league. Yeah,

605
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: maybe number one. That's a big portion. I think your

606
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: O line goes from I don't even say bad below

607
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: average to hopefully above at.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just did the rankings on that a

609
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago from what was that was that

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00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus or But they.

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00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: Have them like ten or ten. Yeah, and I think

612
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: that's fair with the arrow pointing up. I don't think

613
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: the secondary is a liability anymore. And with some star power.

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00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, really, the only hole that you see on

615
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: the roster is who's that number two wide receiver? But

616
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: we could say that about a lot of teams. A

617
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: lot of teams don't even have a number one.

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Speaker 2: I mean in the scheme of things, the weaknesses. Who's

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Speaker 2: touching the football, you know, I mean, like all your

620
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: skill guys in your quarterback aren't as good as the

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Speaker 2: people blocking for them, or the front seven or the

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00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: big people. Okay, but I'll still take them over everyone listed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And yeah, let's get to a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about this particular article when we come back.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alli. He is the Matt Williamson, and this

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Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We're going over

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Speaker 1: ESPN's rankings of the top starting lineups in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think, and we just.

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Speaker 2: Don't talk about the fifty third guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we just talked about the Steelers being

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Speaker 1: eighteenth on this list, and I think, you know, if

634
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: you were ranking overall rosters, I think because of the

635
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: depth that they've acquired and in some positions, I think

636
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: they're clearly much higher than this.

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00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, like, if receivers are weakest position,

638
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: depth isn't right. I mean, they're gonna cut an NFL

639
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: player at receiver no matter what. Yeah, I mean there's

640
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: a lot of them there. I mean, it's one example.

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00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Even though line, I think that there's a couple o

642
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: linemen that might not be able to foster if everybody

643
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: stays healthy, that are gonna end up somewhere the.

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00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Same thing like defensive line.

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00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: You know.

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00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: So I do think that there is good depth at

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00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot of positions right too, that you know, I

648
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: think when you look at it that way. So let's

649
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: take a look at this. Are there any these next teams?

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00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Handful of teams here in front of the Steelers will

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00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: be ranked, the Steelers ahead of them, and I certainly

652
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: will be number seventeen. The Chicago Bears, come on.

653
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, they've been a bottom FA and a lot

654
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: of that's promise and hope, which is great. You know,

655
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: you have a big offseason, you hope your quarterbacks the

656
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: next superstar. Fine, but some of it needs to be

657
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: proven a little bit too, you know. I mean I

658
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: would rather have the Steelers roster. I don't think the

659
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: Bears roster is bad. Though I don't think it's bad.

660
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: I think it's better than a lot of the teams

661
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: that we've already mentioned.

662
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 2: But it's not better than Pittsburgh. That's exactly to say

663
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: the same thing. You know, like Keenan Allen's a really

664
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: good player, but he's just going to be a chain

665
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: mover at this point, you know, I mean because a

666
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Steelers jus Keenan Allen. Of course, that's really the point.

667
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: I will say. The Bears defense was quite good to

668
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: finish the season, and nobody.

669
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: Noticed, Well here's your defensive tackles. Now that's a worri,

670
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: that's a bad Andrew Billings, Gervin Dexter, Zach Pickens.

671
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Yep. I bet their first round pick next year is

672
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle.

673
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't. And even with the with the

674
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: edge rushers Montes sweat and DeMarcus Walker sweats to.

675
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: Star and then the rest of the d line is I'm.

676
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Not, I wouldn't well below out. I'm not trading any

677
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: of this, Like no Steelers front seven guys for any

678
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: of those.

679
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: I like Dexter coming out of Florida, and I wish

680
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: he was part of the rotation as a three to

681
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: four end as a prospect bent and yeah, but I'd

682
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: rather bet right, you know, yes, So I don't know,

683
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: I have their doubts of it's not AFC North Football,

684
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: but it's NFC North football. And when the going gets

685
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: tough and stuff up in the run, in the muck,

686
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: in the trenches, up the middle would worry me.

687
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm with you. At sixteen again, I

688
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: got to disagree. The Seattle Seahawks.

689
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: Ooh, I would have them noticeably lower. Yeah. Yeah, they

690
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: have maybe more questions than answers. They have five or

691
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: six players I really really liked, and like I mentioned,

692
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: I did my fantasy rankings. I have Smith Najig but

693
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: probably higher than anybody else. And I think Witherspoon's a

694
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: good player, and way Mafey and some of these guys

695
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: they've drafted lately I'm excited about. But interior, oh, line,

696
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks just okay, defense has defense isn't a transition right now?

697
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Which is you know, you hire a defensive head coach.

698
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: That's going to be a year of figuring things out.

699
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that I would have them above

700
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: the Steelers now.

701
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: I don't think I would like where's there? Like Metcalf's

702
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: a great player, Like who are their top hundred players?

703
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: In the top five percent?

704
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you. I like boy A Mafey.

705
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: Would he start for the Steelers.

706
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: No, No, it would be a great third yeah, you know, right,

707
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: but a great third, right, great third, right, but for

708
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: a lot of teams, but not here.

709
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: He wouldn't start here. I mean even I don't even

710
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: know if they're like they got Leondard Williams.

711
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: A really good player, but him and Ogujobi would like rotate.

712
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: They got Jerown Baker and Terrell Dodson at linebacker, which

713
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: is fine, but they wouldn't start here.

714
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Steelers were killed for those guys the last couple of years,

715
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: but not now now right right, you'd love Witherspoon. Yeah,

716
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: the rest of their defense wouldn't be that useful if

717
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: you could mind them.

718
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: At fifteen the Jacksonville Jaguars.

719
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm still a big Lawrence believer. And if you're gonna

720
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: put a lot of faith in that and say he's

721
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: a tenth best quarterback, fine much have a Steelers are

722
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: line it's not even close. Their skill guys are better,

723
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: but they're not super. Their front seven is not close.

724
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: No, and that's with Josh Allen all good player. Yeah,

725
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker still hasn't lived up to the bill.

726
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even like Lloyd there was a first round linebacker,

727
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Like there's promise there, but their secondaries worries. Yeah, I

728
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: mean it's weak.

729
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah at fourteen.

730
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams, Ooh, I don't think this exercise

731
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: paints them in a good light. I mean, like, I

732
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: think this sounds terrible, but I think it's like McVeigh,

733
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: Stafford and a bunch of dudes. And to give those

734
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: guys the ultimate credit, they make those bunch of dudes

735
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: win games. But who on their defense ours of Steelers?

736
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: Maybe none. I mean the rookie from last year would

737
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: be in the rotation like a bent Yeah, I mean.

738
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: There were air dressers are Byron Young, Michael Hope, and

739
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: Jared Verse.

740
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Young had a nice rookie year and versus the first

741
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: round pick, but they're not starting over high Smith. No,

742
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: what's his face? Jones is a quality linebacker, but he

743
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't start here. Their secondary would have anybody? I mean

744
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: maybe Cam Carl would be your second safety. Yeah.

745
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: The owners are Darius Williams, Stradavius White, Quinton Lake.

746
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: They're just kind of open on.

747
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: White hasn't been a player in four years, right, right,

748
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: at least.

749
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: They have some names on defense from a year ago,

750
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: but they're reaches and hopes. And I'm this sounds bad,

751
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: but those two Florida State guys that they drafted, I

752
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: think they overdrafted, you know, to pair them together, and

753
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: they're both hustle guys. I don't think they have real

754
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: high ceilings. Their interior lines very appealing and it's massive,

755
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: but I don't THO think they overspent, which doesn't matter

756
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: for this. Hey I'd love na coop or a cup,

757
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, But the tight ends are just dudes.

758
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: I think their running backs are just dudes. They'd be

759
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: much lower on the list now I think about it.

760
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: They're probably five teams out of ahead of them that

761
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: we've mentioned, Like I might have the Bears out.

762
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: Of them at number thirteen. The Packers, I get that, Yeah,

763
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: that's fine.

764
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of quality homegrown talent on that team,

765
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: including a quarterback that I thinks knocking on the door

766
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: being a star.

767
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Has not lived up the I mean, they got a

768
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: bunch of number one picks on that defense, and they

769
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: have not lived up to that standard.

770
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: The Packers fans and apologists will say, let's see what

771
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: these guys can do with a different Cordiner because there's

772
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: tons of high picks and they just brought in all

773
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: these safeties, including McKinney. So I think the jury's still

774
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: out a little there. But it's also hard to find

775
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: weaknesses on that team too. Yeah, I mean there's not

776
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: a gaping hole anyway, and it's all homegrown.

777
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: Number twelve, the Cleveland Browns.

778
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think they have a very

779
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: good roster with an elephant in the room. Yeah, you know,

780
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: and I do. It's not nearly as important as Watson.

781
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: Here's here's my problem with this. They're including Nick Chubb

782
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: as a starter.

783
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: That's just about to say, is Watson in the quarterback

784
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: position is way more important than the running back position.

785
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: But Chubb's been a superstar, Like they kind of want

786
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: him to be a superstar again.

787
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Is way if he's completely healthy, I get it, But

788
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm giving them all three hundred times. Yeah he's not

789
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: the pre injury.

790
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: Chubb is a lot different than the guy scribbled on

791
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: the piece of paper there right now. Yeah, you know,

792
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: because drom Ford's not a dude. Like again, I dnasy ranks.

793
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: I Chubb is like my running back fifty five. Like,

794
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if he played. I mean, and what's

795
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: he gonna look like.

796
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably a candidate to start the season

797
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: on the pup.

798
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: I would think he's a strong candidate. Yeah, and what's

799
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: he like when he's back? Like their first round picker

800
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: early pick could be a running back next year.

801
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna play the way they

802
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: want to play.

803
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little shocked they didn't draft one higher

804
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: this season.

805
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's again, I'm with you. It's a

806
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: good roster, it is, but when you have two big

807
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: question marks at quarterback and running.

808
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: Back, the guys are gonna touch up all the most. Yeah.

809
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can put it quite that high.

810
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Everything else is, you know good.

811
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about the teams we mentioned below them,

812
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: the Packers ahead them, Packers I think are a strong.

813
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: N versus Steelers is a conversation.

814
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I would much rather be the GM of

815
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: the Packers, Like, give me this stuff to build with

816
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: the youth and not have this Watson anchor on my team.

817
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: And the next question that you have is you have

818
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: to figure out which one you which, Which are those

819
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: young receivers you're going to pay?

820
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: Which you know oh for a green Bay. Yeah, yeah,

821
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: there's big ones coming. But those are good questions.

822
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, good problems, good problems have. But yeah, the Browns,

823
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

824
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like both lines.

825
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: I would have a green Bay ahead of them.

826
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that.

827
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: I would have green Bay ahead of them for sure.

828
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: And I think the Browns the Steelers is a conversation.

829
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: And everyone in the plant would rather have loved them. Watson. Yeah,

830
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: if they both cast zero dollars, right, you know?

831
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: Yea, based on what we've seen, Yeah, in recent there's recency.

832
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: Buys can say that at number eleven, the Miami Dolphins,

833
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: there's some stars. Yeah.

834
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: I dislike their offensive line, A great deal, A great deal,

835
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: A great deal, A great deal.

836
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: It's it's not the worst offensive line of the teams

837
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: that we've already talked about.

838
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: No, but it's low.

839
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: It's not far off of it.

840
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: It's not. I mean, it's Armsteads almost like Chubb, like, Okay.

841
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna play twelve games.

842
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: She's gonna play twelve games. They'll probably be good. He

843
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: might play three, and the cliff is coming. And the

844
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: rest of the four below average starters, I mean the center,

845
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: they paid from Tennessee's fine? Who do They also have

846
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: projected start on the.

847
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: Line, Toron Armstead, Isaiah Win, Aaron Brewer, Robert Jones, Austin Jackson.

848
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: The right side's bad.

849
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson is the guy they got back in the

850
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: mink of his Patrick trade.

851
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: That's who they drafted. The drafted and he's never quite

852
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: made it. No, And if you talk about depth, their

853
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: ow line depth is non existent. That's worrisome. They don't

854
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: really have an answer for Wilkins leven either.

855
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: On defense, they get one defensive tackle listed here among

856
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: their starters. One really Zack Syler.

857
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: Who's an underrated dude. They have some dge rushers. I

858
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I'm always critical of them, but

859
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: I also have respect for the Dolphins. I mean, they

860
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: just don't team build the way I would. I mean

861
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: they're drafting running backs and receive and edge rushers. I

862
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: would have been drafting guard.

863
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: The funny thing about this is so Jerome Baker becomes

864
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: a free agent, he signs with Seattle. Yeah, Jordan Brooks

865
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: becomes a free agent, he signs with Miami.

866
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: Right.

867
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: They basically flip floff problems is what they did.

868
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: There. Which history shows neither team's probably gonna be happy

869
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: with them, that the old team knows them better than

870
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 2: the new team and they're just looking for something different.

871
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: And then I don't think thee was a bad player,

872
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: but they're not.

873
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: Stars and you paid money for them, Like I.

874
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Went Holland and there's a couple of guys I went

875
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: off that team, obviously, Tyrek and Waddle, John Whu Smith

876
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: like my sleeper tight end fantasy of all tight ends.

877
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: You know, he did really well Arthur Smith last year,

878
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: but he's not a difference maker.

879
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: No, I mean, and how much is he going to

880
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: get the ball in that offense?

881
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: That's a question.

882
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you know that Hill and Wada are

883
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: going to get between the two of them almost three hundred.

884
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: Targets and two. It doesn't elevate them to me, No,

885
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: I'd rather have loved I mean some of the quarterbacks

886
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: we've talked about. I'd rather have definitely rather of Stafford.

887
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: At number ten and we're in the top ten now,

888
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles.

889
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: That's hard to quite I mean, if Barkley, Goddard, Smith

890
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: and Brown are the dudes touching the football behind, what's

891
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: not the best? Oh, line, but it's not far off. Still,

892
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: that offense should be formidable.

893
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

894
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings on Hurts, but I don't think

895
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: he's ever gonna be bad. The defense got a face

896
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: lift two to the roster.

897
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: It is a good roster. Yeah, and you know they

898
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: might have him higher. Remade the secondary. They added Devon

899
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: White in the offseason to play next in Nikobe Dean.

900
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: See how that pairing goes.

901
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: If one of the two hits, it would be worth it.

902
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

903
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a good They got more athletic.

904
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah at number nine.

905
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: The Bills, I think they're going the wrong way though.

906
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

907
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: If we would do non quarterback in the conversation, they

908
00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: would be like eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth. Their receivers are them six.

909
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Key On Coleman, Curtis, Samuel Khalil.

910
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Shakir oping, you know, I mean what I think they're

911
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: O lines average. I think Kinkaid is a potential star.

912
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: Defense is good, not great. Safeties are up in the air.

913
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: Milano coming back would be big. What do you get?

914
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting out of von Miller right right. You know

915
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: some of these guys are getting a little long in

916
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: the tooth, and you know, now all of a sudden,

917
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp has to be a starter for you.

918
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting to that point and you know you

919
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: got a new center. I mean like, I mean, there's

920
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: there's times are changing the Bos.

921
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: The two starting safeties are now Taylor rap and Mike Edwards.

922
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that's not Poyer and uh what's his face that

923
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: they've had forever? Yeah, you know, I know those guys

924
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: are getting up at age, but that's been a strength,

925
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: a stalwart position for them. Now it's a question mark. Yea.

926
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Uh at number eight.

927
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: The Houston Texans, I agree, it's come a long way.

928
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they have big time receivers. I'd say it's

929
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: a top five oh line, I'm a I'm a stroud believer.

930
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I think their weakness is again defensive tackle.

931
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some of their moves I don't agree with.

932
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: They were really aggressive this offseas. They did some things

933
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't love. Yeah, Kurt, Wow, that's what they're starting

934
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: to tackle. I was thinking they'd somebody that.

935
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: Was like, if you had all that money, you could

936
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: have gone out and got Christian Wilkins.

937
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: Right, Like, I'd rather Wilkins than Diggs. Yeah. Yeah, for

938
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: that team and draft the third round receiver draft Jyleen

939
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: McMillan or something, or you know anybody you know, right,

940
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: I don't love their off seas and one's praising their

941
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: off seas. This is a team on the rise. They

942
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: had rookies of the year going young coach. Yes, but

943
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean I would invest it in mixing and

944
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: you know the guys they did, you traded out of

945
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: the first round for no parent reason.

946
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: They're also you know they get therek stingly m. The

947
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: other corners are Desmond King and Kamari last year.

948
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're questions. They're both slots, really right, they are.

949
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: They're starting safeties, Petrie and Petrie and Jimmy War Okay,

950
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: Ward did not have a great year. He's starting to show.

951
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: I think they drafted one like the second third round though.

952
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: Seven you get the Wolves.

953
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they have a better roster than

954
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: the Browns. Yeah, I think so, especially if quarterback matters

955
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: a great deal.

956
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: No, I can agree with that.

957
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't see offensive holes.

958
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: Defense is a question is whether I would put them

959
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: above Baltimore.

960
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, saying I know Baltimore is still remaining

961
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: out there. If the quarterbacks are a wash, I'd probably

962
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: take the Bengals.

963
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: I would too.

964
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: We can get the Ravens, but Bengals starters on the

965
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: year good. It's a little in flux, yeah, especially if

966
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: Hendrickson is not happy or starts to age one. More

967
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: like if Miles Murphy became a star, I'd be like,

968
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: oh wow, you know right, they're all or Dack's Hill

969
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: or one of their recent.

970
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: High pick samps. Fine, he's not a difference maker.

971
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean they've drafted defense pretty high lately. One of

972
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: them could hit like Higgins would be like, oh okay, yeah.

973
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: At six the Cowboys, Yeah, Unfortunately their most important guys

974
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: aren't long term fixtures, but that doesn't matter for this.

975
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Running backs a question.

976
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: Running backs awful, probably the worse in the league. Their

977
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: guards are great, and they drafted two more linemen that

978
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 2: I don't love, but at least they are okay there.

979
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: Defense has some dudes. Yeah, front's good. I think they'd

980
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: be a litt bad they I don't think that'd be

981
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: as high. Eagles have a better roster than them, I think, so,

982
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: you know, just think of the division.

983
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Uh, at five, the Lions, they'd be really high. I

984
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: might have them higher.

985
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Second receiver worries me. And that's about it.

986
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

987
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if Jack Campbell takes a step forward,

988
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: their corners are one of the two hits. Their safeties

989
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: are decent. Let alone Hutchinson and McNeil and Reader. I

990
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: mean like they're fro looks good now, it's the best

991
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: O line in the league. They got studs on offense.

992
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams is like their wild card. I wish they

993
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: had one more receiver.

994
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: This is year three for him. He missed time because

995
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: of injury, missed time because of suspension. Like the talent

996
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: is there.

997
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh. I hate to say this, but he was my

998
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: number one receiver in that class, over a Lave, over Wilson,

999
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: over London. But he's a question mark.

1000
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: He's a question mark.

1001
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: And there's anybody pushing them, even if they would have

1002
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: kept like Josh Reynolds and four is the Jets. Yeah,

1003
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: on this spreadsheet on paper, it looks pretty.

1004
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Good without having played a game. Everybody's nice and healthy.

1005
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: Everybody's healthy and the land of eternal optimism. Yeah, it's

1006
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: just very fragile.

1007
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: I was looking back at last year's Pro Bowl roster.

1008
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson went to a Pro Bowl last year, did

1009
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: he really it's seven and a half sack.

1010
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: He's a rotational guy. Yeah, I mean an even start.

1011
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get that at all.

1012
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Which is also a testament to their front seven is

1013
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah. I mean they got dudes even like

1014
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: McDonald do. They drafted out of Iowa State. There's an

1015
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: edge that is just a speedball and now they've Reddick.

1016
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: They have a lot of brand name guys. It's just

1017
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: they're expensive. And also this isn't part of this conversation,

1018
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: but it's one of the organizations in the league I

1019
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: trust the least.

1020
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And they're old and they're old.

1021
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1022
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: At three are the Ravens.

1023
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three Ravens, I might have two one.

1024
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: When you have question marks on your offensive line, yeah,

1025
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: when you have question marks really at wide receiver.

1026
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: The edge guys are question works too.

1027
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're looking at.

1028
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean they could be good.

1029
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: They could be Yeah, but you know it is Kyle

1030
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: Vanny going to have another season line, right.

1031
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: They got a lot out of Vannoy and Clowney.

1032
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: You know you're counting one more.

1033
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: One thing we haven't talked enough about with the Ravens.

1034
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: We often bring up the O line issues and warranted.

1035
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: That would be my most thing I'm afraid of if

1036
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm a Ravens man. But not only did they lose McDonald,

1037
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: their defensive coordinator who did really wonderful.

1038
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: Things defensive line, because they lost Weaver.

1039
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Too, who's now a defensive coordinator like I. They got

1040
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: hit hard on the coaching staff on that side of

1041
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: the ball too. Yeah.

1042
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: And the cornerbacks are a question mark to me. Yeah,

1043
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's it's Marlin Humphrey. Okay, he's fine,

1044
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: but he's probably starting to lose it a little bit.

1045
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 2: Stevens might be the better player.

1046
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: Stevens and Arthur Mallett.

1047
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, they drafted the kid out in C State in

1048
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: the first round. Okay, yeah, but right, this is what

1049
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: they're projecting, which I thought was not a Ravens like

1050
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: pick because I don't think they trust. I don't know

1051
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Humphrey will be there in a year or so. Yeah,

1052
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: and I love Hamilton. I love Hamilton.

1053
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: On the back end are great, Yeah, Broon's great, But

1054
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: the corners are their question the questions there. Uh.

1055
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: At number two side note, I wanted to commend you

1056
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: guys whether I listened to the show that you and

1057
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Rob did, and you guys were talking about Queen, the

1058
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: Roquon Queen relationship. I thought that was great because a

1059
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: lot of it was chicken or the egg? Didquan make Queen?

1060
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: Or did the Ravens make Roquan? Right? You know what

1061
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: I mean?

1062
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at numbers, I think.

1063
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: McDonald's a tremendous defensive coordinator, and you give them talents

1064
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: like Queen Roquan, he got a lot more out of

1065
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: them than anybody else has. You know, make coaching matters,

1066
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: and they don't have that coach anymore.

1067
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: They don't. The Chiefs are at number two.

1068
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: We know who the top two are. Do you think

1069
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: the Niners would definitely be one? Do you think the

1070
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs deserve too?

1071
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Mahomes carries a lot of weight.

1072
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: You still have Their defense doesn't have many holes either.

1073
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: You still have Chris Jones, you got, you got interior lines, strong,

1074
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: the edge rushers.

1075
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Carol Loftus, who's who's yeah fine,

1076
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: but then it's Mike Dana and Charles Omene who.

1077
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: They're kind of rotating those guys. You wish he had

1078
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: a one more speedball off the edge.

1079
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, if they have an injury inside linebacker this year,

1080
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: they used to.

1081
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Be really deep. They also lost a corner and sneed Like.

1082
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't have the depth that they did.

1083
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: You agreed. I think their pass catchers are more than fine,

1084
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: especially if Rice plays. Tackles are where, but at least

1085
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: you drafted Cimataia. Yeah, Cetia I was closed. Right now.

1086
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: They're projecting one Ya Morris as the left tach.

1087
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that'll be a training camp Jean

1088
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: Taylor like, yeah, not great, not good at tackle. Last note,

1089
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: like I could see trade deadline they go get the

1090
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: edge rusher. It's going to be a free agent after

1091
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, you know, try to win a Super

1092
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: Bowl like that would complete them. Yeah, especially when you're

1093
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: playing with Leeds.

1094
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: And then the forty nine ers number one.

1095
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the line's questionable. It's a good roster though, Yeah,

1096
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean other than Trent Williams, it's a Dolphins like

1097
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: go line. Yeah. So, but they're pretty loaded.

1098
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: Looking at where this came down at, I honestly, I

1099
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: think the Steelers are closer to fifteen fourteen somewhere net

1100
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: range than eighteen.

1101
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: I would say, but I forgot where they were at.

1102
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: I would bump them up three or four spots, So

1103
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. Yeah, they were a little low.

1104
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but that was the ESPN list. As we mentioned

1105
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: to start the show, don't get two fired up about

1106
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: lists at somebody's opinion. But that's gonna do it. That's

1107
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: all competing with you know, that's going to do it

1108
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: for our number one here on the Drive on Steelers

1109
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Now we'll be back with our number two

1110
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Speaker 1: right after this