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Yeah, I want 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: to start with the Bills because they made some headlines today. 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: They extended a player, they signed another player, and it 58 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: goes back to last year when they gave a lot 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: of money to Von Miller, which I thought was pretty extreme, 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: but in fairness to them, before he got injured, he 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: was having a fantastic season, and I think the lasting 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: memory that we all have in two thousand, I guess 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: it was technically in twenty twenty three, but of the 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Buffalo Bills who have now established themselves. 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: As you know, one of the powerhouse teams in the 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: league was them getting worked by the Bengals physically kind 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: of tossed around. Now. I followed the Bills very closely. 68 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Love Sean McDermott, known him for a long time. Don't 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: know Josh Allen, but California Central Valley guy. I root 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: for him. They're a fun team to watch. He's a 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: very explosive, fascinating player. Right like most people, I thought 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: it was crazy to draft him that high. And they 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: haven't been proven just right. I mean, they found themselves 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: a superstar player, but in a playoff game, they got 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: shoved around by the Cincinnati Bengals. There's no really way 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: around it. And I think they deserve credit because sometimes 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: teams when they get worked in the playoffs, I think 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: we can look back and look what they've done moving 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: forward and go, you know, they're just not building this 80 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: thing the right way. They really are, right, they continually 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: double down on the defensive line, and it's one area 82 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: in you know, still left in the game of football 83 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: where you can be really physical and you can kind 84 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: of set the tone for your team. And I saw 85 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: it with the forty nine ers the last couple of years. 86 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: I saw the Cowboys give the forty nine ers everything 87 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: they could handle. Obviously, the Philadelphia Eagles built the thing 88 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, right you look at the 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Kanca Chiefs offensive and defensive line. When you invest in 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and not at some auxiliary quote 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: unquote positions, it's an area you can separate yourself and 92 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: really determine the team's toughness. And the Bills have attempted 93 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: to do that. You know, did they give Von Miller 94 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: a tad bit too much money? Yeah? Probably, you know, 95 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: ed Oliver extending him, signing Leonard Floyd. Obviously, they've invested 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of draft picks at the top, you know, 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: two years ago with I think their first and second 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: round pick with the defensive line. They are attempting to 99 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: do everything humanly possible to be a physical team and 100 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: not get shoved around again like they did last season. 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: Now it's just on their personnel moves, like they did, 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: they draft, sign and extend the right players. Because I 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: can never fault you for the mindset of going you 104 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: know heavy in terms of your salary, cap space and 105 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: your resources. With the offensive and defensive line. It just 106 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: comes down to did you duel with the right players? 107 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Right the Denver Broncos, I understand why they invested in 108 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: the offensive guard and offensive tackle. The question is is 109 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: mcglinchy worth that much money at least with Von Miller 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: when the Buffalo Bills, you know, gave him a large 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: contract last year, I think over fifty million dollars guaranteed. 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: First about all of famer and when he's healthy, as 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: you saw last year or two years ago with the 114 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: Rams in their Super Bowl push and then early on 115 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: last year, he's still a difference making player, and Floyd 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: can be an extra piece, and Oliver can be a 117 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: really good, you know, third fourth guy on your defensive line. 118 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: The price of admission, now, for these players, it's not cheap, right. 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: We saw Javon Hargrave, who the forty nine ers, he's 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: on his third contract, get four years, eighty million dollars 121 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: and forty of it guaranteed. So when you extend pay 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: sign these guys as free agents, or obviously want to 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: draft really good players, you know, usually have to draft 124 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: them high, usually have to pay a lot of money. 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: So I understand what the Bills are doing, and I 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: commend their mindset. Now it's just gonna come down to 127 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: they have the right players, right, did they go in 128 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: on the right guys? Because they're gonna be held to 129 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: one standard. Can you beat the Chiefs and can you 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: beat the Bengals in the playoffs? And we'll see how 131 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: this Aaron Rodgers things kind of comes to fruition. But 132 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: can you hang with him? Right, because you're gonna go 133 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: after you know, Mac Jones. We've seen what the Bills 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: do with the with the New England Patriots, right, and 135 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: even last year like that Miami game, one of the 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: most bizarre wins of the season. Right, Remember they outgained 137 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: them the time of possession, the play disparity. But I 138 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: think the Bills clearly are better than the Miami Dolphins. 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be can they get after Patrick Mahomes, 140 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and now Aaron Rodgers and any other really 141 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. We know there are a ton in the AFC. 142 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: But they're gonna be judged in January because last year, right, 143 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I had high hopes and then they got killed in 144 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: the second round, and it feels like they've taken a 145 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: step back. And I think sometimes you know, you don't 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: have to overreact to a loss. But you know, like 147 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles, there's no reason for them to overreact to 148 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: a crazy loss in the Super Bowl. Now, if you're 149 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the Bills, like do you have enough toughness? And they 150 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: keep signing a defensive lineman, they keep extending defensive lineman. 151 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: So I do think they are going about it the 152 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: right way. Now it's just going to come down to 153 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: their head coach. Here's the other thing. Sean McDermott has 154 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: gotten back to his roots. He's calling the defense. So 155 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: they get rid of Leslie Frazier. He was the fall 156 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: guy last year. So does Sean McDermott make an incremental 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: difference for them from a toughness standpoint, from a defensive 158 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: scheme standpoint? And they don't get worked when it matters 159 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: this time around. If you're watching the NBA Finals, it's 160 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: really a pretty fascinating two star players going up against 161 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: each other. Right, Jimmy Butler was kind of discounted over 162 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: the years until he got to Miami, Right, it was 163 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: like how good is he? Chicago Bulls kind of sold 164 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: on him. Then he went to Minnesota and it was like, ah, 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: it was too tough on Andrew Wiggins and Karl Anthony Towns. 166 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: Then he goes to Philadelphia and they essentially choose Ben 167 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Simmons over him. We can re litigate that all we want, 168 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: but that's just a fact. And pat Riley went all 169 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: in and he's been rewarded. Now. I think we can 170 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: argue how good Jimmy Butler is relative to the league 171 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: during the regular season, but there is not a regular 172 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: season that means less in twenty twenty three than the NBA. 173 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: And Jimmy Butler, if you just judge him on his 174 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: playoff performance, he's easily a top ten player. And Nicole Jokic, 175 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: the Joker as he goes by, is clearly a transcendent talent. 176 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: So in the NBA, it's very clear it's a star 177 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: driven league. It's about getting the right star and then 178 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: just going all in around the guy. And Denver is 179 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: a good example. They've gone all in around the Joker, 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: won multiple MVPs and now three wins away from an 181 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: NBA finals. The Heat have done it a little NFL style. 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: They got a bunch of undrafted free agents. You know, 183 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Bam is obviously a really good player, but some other 184 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: random guys and they just kind of make their hay 185 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: on coaching culture and just Jimmy leading the charge. Not 186 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: always the prettiest thing, but it works. I heard Coward 187 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: kind of compare it to the Patriots, because historically New 188 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: England with some of those Tom Brady teams player for player, 189 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: were not always the best and honestly rarely the best 190 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: team in the league top to bottom. Tower wise, they 191 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: won with clearly Brady, but coaching discipline, execution, toughness, mental toughness, 192 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: kind of wearing your ass down, ultimately making you make 193 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: a mistake that they were not going to make in 194 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: the biggest moments. And what's cool about is like in 195 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: pro sports, you go as far, especially in basketball and football, 196 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: in basketball as your star player, in football as your quarterback. 197 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: And I saw a headline today that they must have 198 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: had a golf tournament in Los Angeles. Brandon Staley talked 199 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: about the ongoing contract talks with Justin Herbert. We have 200 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: talked before about the ongoing contract talks with Joe Burrow, 201 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: and I think all you want in the NFL when 202 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: you land a star player, and ideally it's at quarterback, 203 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: but it could be Micah Parsons, Nick Bosa. It could 204 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: be Travis Kelcey, it could be Chris Jones, it could 205 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: be we go around the league and pick out star players, 206 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, Jason Kelcey is the total package. Like, that's 207 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: what you're looking for, right, a guy that you can 208 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: pay a premium who can become your leader and then 209 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: you just basically build around him. And in football, if 210 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: it's not the quarterback, and if it's you know, an 211 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, a defensive pass rusher, wid a tight end, 212 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: you want him to be the total package. And when 213 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: you look at the Chargers and the Bengals, like they 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: should think they're lucky stars because they got two guys. Like, 215 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: whatever the Denver Nuggets pay Joker, what they've paid him 216 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: so far and what they will inevitably pay him over 217 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: the next seven eight years, it's a discount, right. Whatever 218 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: the Heat have paid Jimmy Butler, it's clearly not enough, right, 219 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: what he means to them in winning at the highest levels. Now, 220 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has accomplished more than Justin Herbert, right, a 221 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: bunch of playoff wins. Herbert still doesn't have one. He's 222 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: only been in a one playoff game and they lost 223 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: it in the crazy comeback to the Jags. But I'm 224 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: a huge believer in Justin Herbert. I understand. I don't 225 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: want to say reservations, but it's easy to push back 226 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: when you haven't proven it if you watch football on 227 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: a weekly basis, and you also factor in that his 228 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: head coach is Brandon Staley, and defensively they have been 229 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: very hit or miss over the last couple of years, 230 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: right when it's mattered the most. Like, I can't put 231 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: it all on Justin Herbert. Now to get over the hump, 232 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: he's going to have to be really good in the playoffs. 233 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has proven that. But one thing Joe Burrow 234 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: has had going for him is his defense the last 235 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: couple of years when it's been nut cutting, time has 236 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: come to play. But overall, either way, like I'm going 237 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: all in on both guys, and I think both franchises 238 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: should feel very very good about it. One of the 239 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: stories right now coming out of the forty nine ers 240 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: now he's not a quarterback and he's already under contract. 241 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I obviously haven't been to a practice so far the 242 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, but all the reports Anthony Lynn 243 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: I think spoke last week Christian McCaffrey is like a 244 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: man amongst boys out there now. Granted Nick Bosa is 245 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: not there, He's allowed to stay in Florida and train. 246 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: Trent Williams is not there. Deebo's, you know, kind of 247 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: working on the side. But the standard in which Christian 248 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: McCaffrey and really the moment they traded for him up 249 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: until really today, in which he operates on a daily basis, 250 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: is he's underpaid because his effort, his just mindset on 251 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: the practice field, the standard he sets for all the 252 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: young guys looking around. And when you draft star players 253 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: right or when you draft a player and then they 254 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: become a star ideally, And this is why character matters 255 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: so much. It's why that we question, you know, the 256 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murrays of the world, like can you afford to 257 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: put all your chips in the middle of the table 258 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: on your star quarterback and pay him all this money 259 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: when he's not the hardest working guy in the building, 260 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: When he's not the guy that sets the standard for 261 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: your entire building of just excellence. Anything less is unacceptable. 262 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady did, Peyton Manning did, Drew Brees did. Clearly 263 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: guys around the league like Patrick Mahomes Joe Burrow. I 264 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: think Justin Herbert is going to fall under that umbrella. 265 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: We've seen what Jalen Hurts means the Eagles in terms 266 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: the way he conducts himself, the way he works. It 267 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: is so important, and I think sometimes it can feel 268 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to say overblown or overdone, but we 269 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: talked so much around the draft about character, character, character, 270 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: or when question marks become available through a trade right 271 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: or available as a free agent, is it worth it? 272 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think the teams that circumvent the standard get 273 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: themselves in positions where they regret it. And I think 274 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the NFL is very, very lucky right now to have 275 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: just such high level guys in the league. When you 276 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: look at it, and I remember talking to Coward about 277 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: this last year. I forget exactly what we were talking about, 278 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: but I remember going through the All Pro list, the 279 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: first and second team, and I don't have it off 280 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: the top of my head, but I think there might 281 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: have been one guy who would be quote unquote considered 282 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: a questionable character. The overwhelming majority of them were like 283 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: super high level guys. And you want to win in 284 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: this league, and if you look at the teams that 285 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: are winning, right now like ultimately the Cowboys their success 286 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. This isn't like the nineteen 287 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: ninety to White House Cowboys, you know, with drugs and 288 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: the strippers and you know, all the craziness going on 289 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: off the field. Look at their squad. Pretty high level 290 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: group of dudes, right, obviously the Eagles pretty well together, 291 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: a bunch, the Chiefs, the Bengals, the Bills. You know, 292 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: this is for the most part. I'm not saying every 293 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: guy is some choir boy, but it's just high level 294 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: dudes that are clearly really good players. Because talent league, 295 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: you got to have, you know, the there's a standard 296 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: in which to be a really good player. You have 297 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: to have a prerequisite of physical ability, playmaking ability, production. 298 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: But most of these guys, and this is the one thing, 299 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots were the closest to the line of like God, 300 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: they got a lot of overachievers, but they had enough 301 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: high end talent always, whether it was Brady, whether it 302 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: was Gronk, whether it was Will Fork, whoever, Logan Mankins 303 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: that you know this league is. You know, I think 304 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't give the proper justice to the importance 305 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: of high level dudes. And I've said this forever. You 306 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: know when guys get in trouble that the NFL, those 307 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: guys are the minority in the NFL. The majority of 308 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: the guys in the league are just high level guys, 309 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: right and I'd say the majority of really good players 310 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: are really high level guys. And last but not least, 311 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: talking about not high level, I just do not understand 312 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, with all the information we have, 313 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: everything is digital. Now there is a Cults player right 314 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: now who supposedly is not a star player, but he 315 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: is a guy that, according to reports, NFL fans will 316 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: know who he is. At the time of recording this, 317 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: I do not have a name. I just have the 318 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: headline for the story that there is a player being 319 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: investigated by the league for extensive gambling and it's going 320 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: to come out and some of the media will push back. 321 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: It's hypocritical to not know. Just like the owners owned 322 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: the revenue of these gambling companies, and because of the 323 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: integrity of what is going on with the NFL, you're 324 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: not allowed to gamble on football. We can argue and 325 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: attempt to litigate over social media or text message or whatever, 326 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: whether it's fair or not, but the reality is those 327 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: are the rules. So I don't get how guys, especially now, 328 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: everything is tracked. When you put your name in, they 329 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: know who you are. They can tract where you are. 330 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: So some of these guys, like with the Lions, I 331 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: think Jamison Williams was gambling on college, Well, they can 332 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: tell where you are. Anyone watched these murder shows. Now 333 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: with our phone, they know everywhere we're going. So I 334 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: just this notion that I saw either Florio or someone 335 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: wrote earlier today that maybe there was some question in 336 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: whether the information to the players was setting stone early on, 337 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: like in meetings or whatever, that you are not allowed 338 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: to do this. I guess there are people that like 339 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: it's not being articulated or streamlined well enough to really 340 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: hammer home. I listen, in my experience well before gambling 341 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: was legal sports wise throughout the country like it is now, 342 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty clear it was well laid 343 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: out when I was with the Eagles. So to me, 344 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: there are no excuses. And I don't understand if you're 345 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: a player, even if you're like on a veteran minimum 346 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: salary making a million dollars, how it's worth it for 347 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: you to gamble when you know the repercussions, right, you know, 348 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: and especially now you've seen Calvin Ridley that was a 349 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: year ago now. And I love to gamble. But if 350 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: you told me that I would not allowed to gamble 351 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: and that was the only way I could keep podcasting 352 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: and making a living, I would not gamble. It would 353 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: be pretty easy. I'm not saying I would like it. 354 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: I enjoy gambling on golf, I really do. And I 355 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: can't wait to gamble on the US Open here in 356 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: two weeks. But if that was part of the stipulation 357 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: of my job and the success financially I was having, 358 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: I would easily be able to slow it down. Now, 359 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: I would understand. And this is why I think you've 360 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: seen some instances in college baseball where gambling has become 361 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: a problem. It's hard, Like you can't pay off. There 362 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: is no amount of money you can bet to get 363 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: like in the pocket of some star NFL or basketball player. 364 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: They make too much money. It's just impossible, right right. 365 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: It's why historically the referees have been bought off. You 366 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: can't buy off a coach or a player. They're making 367 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: too much cash. Same with college football, same with the NFL. 368 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: We're in college baseball. Okay, you got a coach, you know, 369 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: making three four hundred grand, you could fifty thousand dollars 370 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: to him is a lot, right, Fifty thousand dollars to 371 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: some star wide receiver isn't that much money. You're basically 372 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: just gambling because it's entertainment, and I totally understand it, 373 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: but given what's on the line, it just doesn't make 374 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: any sense. So I can't fathom having being that stupid 375 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: really to gamble on sports when it's well laid out 376 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: in front of you. You know the consequences. You have 377 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: seen guys get in trouble and listen, even if you 378 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: like gambling, you got some coin, what do you betting 379 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: five grand a gain? Like, how is that worth it? 380 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: When you're making at minimum a minimum salary is seven 381 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: eight nine hundred grand, and that's assuming you're on a 382 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: rookie contract. If you're on a second contract, that thing's 383 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: starting a seven figures. So these guys, man, I think 384 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: everyone around the league now has absolutely zero excuse to 385 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: not understand what's on the line, but also understand that 386 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: when when you use your phone, you are being tracked. 387 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: These companies, there is a lot of red tape surrounding 388 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: all this. We're still very very new in this legal 389 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: sports gambling in a lot of these states. They're going 390 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: to follow the rules. It is just not worth it 391 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: for them to cut corners or have something shady happen 392 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: and then get their license removed in a state or 393 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: have something you know, take on in core a big fine. Right, 394 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: There's no point doing that. That's why they are being 395 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: extra cautious, and they're even more likely to forward every 396 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: single questionable name transaction immediately to the leagues that they 397 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: are in business with. I eat the same out as 398 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: the players, so these whoever, I'm not going to know 399 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: free ads here, but when you're in business with these leagues, 400 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: the players benefit from that too because there's a revenue sharing. 401 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: So really, just shake my head at these guys stupidity. Okay, 402 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: let's dive in to the mailbag, bang out a couple questions, 403 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: and get you guys out of here on your merry way. 404 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Start with Thomas again, DM's wide open 405 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Instagram at John Middlecoff. Hard to watch most of the 406 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: games with the time change, so it's huge having podcasters 407 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: like you to listen to during my waking hours he 408 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: started this. I skip the line, avid listener from over 409 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: in France. I have a two part question for the mailback. First, 410 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: do you or have you ever played fantasy football? And second, 411 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: I have noticed that fantasy has had an impact on 412 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: creating a divide among football fans opinion on players. Obvious 413 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: examples justin fields, potentially Anthony Richardson get massively hyped when 414 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: in real football they might just be a mid or 415 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: low tier starter. Hell, just this past year I was 416 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: in leagues where Mariota was tot highlyev I was wondering 417 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: your thought on the topic of dueling fan perceptions. A 418 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: lot of different angles here. First and foremost, I've never 419 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: played a full leak as start to finish throughout the season. 420 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: I started playing daily fantasy over the last three or 421 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: four years. I don't consistently do it, but I have 422 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: played daily fantasy. I have never been in a fantasy 423 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: football league. Now I'm not acting like I'm against it. 424 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's a part of football. It's helped 425 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: separate the sport clearly, and it's created a lot of 426 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: i would say novice fans and people that might not 427 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: be interested without it, to keep very close eyes and 428 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: then really you know, strong fans even more invested in 429 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: the entire league. So I'm a big fan of it. 430 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: Just when you know, I don't know, I just haven't played, 431 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, I guess when I was younger, probably in college, 432 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was probably less popular, like when I 433 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: was in college in like three four, five oh six, 434 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: and then I aspired to work in football, and I 435 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: started working in like eight o nine in college football, 436 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: and by the time I got to the NFL in 437 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: like ten, eleven, twelve, fantasy was probably really taken off. 438 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: And I just got into radio now podcasting. I just 439 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: live it in terms of read so much about it, 440 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: such a big part of it. Some people say, you know, 441 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: you guys can ask me during the season fantasy football questions. 442 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: I do not pretend to be Matthew Berry or my 443 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: guy field Yates, but I do enjoy the banter, you know, 444 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: having not consistently played it, it's hard to have. Like, 445 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Historically, running backs have been the number 446 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: one overall picks, right like Christian McCaffrey, Derrick Henry, Adrian Peterson, 447 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: and clearly in real football, quarterbacks and even receivers are 448 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: more important. So I get what you're saying. And part 449 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: of it is like fields running ability. He cannot throw 450 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown, but if he runs for two throws for 451 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards and runs for another hundred, 452 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: still gets you points. Just part of the you know, 453 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: part of the game. So I in terms of fantasy, 454 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: I got nothing against it. I'm glad people really enjoy it. 455 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: It feels like it's I don't know if it's more 456 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: popular now than ever, but it's clearly really big. You know. 457 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't pretend you know this. I say this always 458 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: about gambling. I try to be very authentic on this show. 459 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: I just talk about what I like and what I do. 460 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: So I have no problem talking about gambling because I 461 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: like to gamble. I don't talk that much about fantasy 462 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: because I don't play, not against it. But I think 463 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about gambling that would never gamble. Right. 464 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: Colin was one of the first to talk about gambling 465 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: back in the day with like RJ on his ESPN 466 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: show A decade Go right, because he was gambling on games. 467 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: It was interesting, fascinating and listen, I've always said, like, 468 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're not betting one thousand dollars 469 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: a game or ten dollars a game, But like, do 470 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: you actually gamble? And the amount of people in the 471 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: media that I would have a hard time seeing. We've 472 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: seen their Twitter accounts very risk adverse in terms of 473 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the way they live their life, so I think they're 474 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: not probably a big big gamblers when it comes to football, 475 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: which is obviously the number one bet sport in America. Okay, Trevor, 476 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: how do NFL contracts work when a player is traded? 477 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: Did the Jets get a copy of Aaron's contract with 478 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: the Packers? If so, is that how other teams find 479 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: out about different clauses and salary cap structuring to use 480 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: their future contracts with players or is there just a 481 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: base contract that you can change? Amend ad subtract. Thank 482 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: you for helping me during Football Fix. During my Football 483 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: Fix and outside of each season, I've completely seen the 484 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: game that I love watching differently since finding your podcast. 485 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Trevor. There is a database. I don't 486 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: have the exact name off the top of my head. 487 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: It might just be the league database that every team 488 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: has access to. So the moment I sign Leonard Floyd 489 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, you name it, big or small a contract, 490 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: it goes into a database that every team in the 491 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: league has access to. So, for example, when Howie and 492 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles were working on Jalen Hurts contract, what do 493 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: you think they did. They brought up the last four 494 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: or five quarterback contracts and they use that as a 495 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: guide some of the clauses, some of the structuring of 496 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the money, and then they kind of curtail it to 497 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: their own team how they fit in the money under 498 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: their own salary cap situation issues. Now, I think what 499 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: makes football dramatically different than baseball and basketball. And I 500 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm repeating myself here, but if you make 501 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: a four year, eighty million dollar contract, so twenty million 502 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: dollars a year, I think Amari Cooper signed just a 503 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: back in the day, five years, one hundred million dollars 504 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: sixty guaranteed. In basketball or baseball, it would just be 505 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: twenty a year, or one year'd be eighteen, the next 506 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: year'd be nineteen, the following year'd be twenty two, and 507 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: you just pay it out as is, you know, as 508 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: they played out the years on the contract. In football, 509 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: it's very different. There is a signing bonus, which like 510 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: any bonus, if you sign a one hundred thousand dollars 511 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, contract to sell insurance and you get a 512 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars signing bonus, you get that money up front. 513 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: So when you see these signing bonuses of ten, twenty, thirty, fifty, 514 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: whatever million dollars, that is paid to the player, and 515 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: that is under the umbrella of the guaranteed money. And 516 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be Howie or Parrogue here, but 517 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: you amortize the signing bonus and the guaranteed money over 518 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: the life of the contract. Now, some of these contracts 519 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: now have these fake voidable years that you can use 520 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: to amortize it over the life of on the books. Right. 521 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: It's why I think Javon Hargrave is a good example. 522 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: He signed with the forty nine ers forty million dollars guaranteed. 523 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't have a signing bonus off the top of 524 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: my head, but let's just pick a number twenty five 525 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: and he got four years averaging twenty million dollars a year. 526 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: It's why I think the average per year can be 527 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: a little overstated. It gets agents a lot of credit 528 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: and makes players feel good. But I think Hardgrave's cap 529 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: space or cap hit this season is like six million dollars. 530 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: Right we're in the NBA, his number would be twenty 531 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: million dollars because average twenty a year. Well, that's not 532 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: the way these contracts work. So when it comes to 533 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: the clauses, I think there are obviously a lot of 534 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: injury clauses with players that have previous injuries, ie Jimmy 535 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: Garoppolo that you base guaranteed money on or you know 536 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: they're you know, in the NFL terms they use the 537 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: term paragraph five because I think paragraph five is your 538 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: base salary, which changes player to player. There are there 539 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: are certain you know, just baselines of veteran minimum depending 540 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: on how long you've been in Clearly rookie contracts are 541 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: all slotted, but you know, you The Denver Broncos signed 542 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Mike mclinchey to a whatever eighty million dollar contract fifty 543 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: plus guaranteed. You can fudge that throughout the books however 544 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: you see fit. You can frontload it, you can backload it, 545 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: you can evenly load it throughout the course of the contract. 546 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel signed a I think sixty million dollars guaranteed 547 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: was it last year. I think a salary cap hit 548 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: over the first two years aren't as big next year 549 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: it's like twenty eight twenty seven million dollars. Now, when 550 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: you see franchise tags or fifty year options, those are 551 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: a lot like NBA Baseball contracts. Now, they're only one 552 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: year if I pick up your fifth year option or 553 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: I give you a franchise tag. But if that number 554 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: is twenty million dollars or fifteen million dollars or seventy five, 555 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: I guess it wouldn't be seventy five quarterback thirty five 556 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: million dollars. That's just one season that much money, all guaranteed. 557 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: So I think that it's complicated. It's why you know 558 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: Florio and these guys they get access or Pelisarro or Schefter. 559 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, these guys in the league, forward them the 560 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: contract once it goes in the league database. It's why 561 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: Florio could always on Pro Football Talk break down a 562 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: contract with the individual clauses. It's out now. Someone would 563 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: have seen it last year with the Kyler Murray video 564 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: game clause. But every team in the league is going 565 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: to notice that because anytime these groundbreaking deals get set 566 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: right the moment Nick Bosa's contract he gets signed this offseason, 567 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert. All the details will 568 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: leak because everyone has access and everyone you know wants 569 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: to talk about it because it is. It is fascinating. 570 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: Sets the precedent on how you're going to do business, 571 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the league, based on high valued players. 572 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: Longtime listener from Sweden. Having been a season ticket holder 573 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: at the London games and thus having watched the Jags 574 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: in London multiple times, I have grown fond of them. 575 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: See shit is working. Don't sleep on Roger branding worldwide. 576 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe this year they will take further strides 577 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: and cement themselves as the class of the AFC South. Granted, 578 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: the division is a strong candidate for worst in all football, 579 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: but the Texans could make some noise, and the Titans 580 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: are always competitive under Rabele All the best. This is 581 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: from Christo's I would say they are. I'm sure they are. 582 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the division odds. The heavy favorite 583 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: to win that division. They have separated themselves at quarterback 584 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: right Tanny Hill feels like he's going the wrong direction. 585 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: The Texans have a guy who's never taken an NFL 586 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: snap and with team and same with the Colts. And 587 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: a guy that's at least CJ has played a lot 588 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: of football at a high level. Anthony Richardson is a major, 589 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: major work in progress. I think this year you just 590 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: want to build on last year, right, win the division 591 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: hosts another playoff team game. Win a playoff game. You know, potentially, 592 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: if Trevor can take take a step and become in 593 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: the conversation, because I think we start talking about him 594 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: like this, he's not quite there. You know, he's not 595 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: a top five quarterback yet, but he's definitely itching into 596 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: the top ten stratosphere. Does he become like, yeah, we 597 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: start talking about him like the way we talked about 598 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: him coming out, Because let's face it, I would say 599 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: Rever Lawrence is one of the biggest prospects in the 600 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: NFL the last two decades. I'm trying to think Andrew Lock. 601 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: It feels like Andrew Lock and Trevor Lawrence were bigger 602 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: prospects than Matt Stafford. They're bigger prospects than Jared Goff. 603 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: They were bigger prospects than Bryce Young. They were bigger. 604 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: When I say bigger, i'm better more critically acclaimed Hell 605 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: do higher regard around league circles, better prospect than Baker Mayfield. 606 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think off the top of my 607 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: head some of these top quarterbacks. So Sam Bradford, So yeah, 608 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Trevor Lawrence, the hype on him 609 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: should be competing for Super Bowls. Now, part of that 610 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: is their team. He's to improve, you know, the running 611 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: game ETN is probably more of like a hybrid, closer 612 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: to like a best case scenario Camara type. Now, I'm 613 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: not saying he's going to be as good as Alvin, 614 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: because Alvin became, you know, a high end, all pro 615 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: level player, but he's going to be more that than 616 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: some between the tackles guy, and I think they've talked 617 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: about it. You add Calvin Ridley. You know, defensively, they've 618 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: drafted a lot of guys the last couple of years. 619 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: They had a number one overall pick defensive end. Can 620 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: can Walker take a step? You got Doug Peterson, who's 621 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: a proven Super Bowl winner, who's a former quarterback, so 622 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about him. The maturation of Trevor 623 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence around him, very stable human, just easy going, easy 624 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: to be around, the opposite of one of the all 625 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: time flameouts in urban Meyer. Yeah, I'd be very, very 626 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: bullish on the Jags. I think I had someone, you know, 627 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: I probably lost the the DM, but had DMD me 628 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: that after I kind of had had a take that 629 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: it feels inevitable for the Jags to go across the 630 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: pond and end up in London. That Sead Kahn has 631 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: invested pretty heavily in Jacksonville term of maybe it was 632 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: this practice facility. I just think if there's an opportunity 633 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: and it looked like you could do to your franchise, 634 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: if you could have put a couple hundred million dollars in, 635 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: but if the league wants you to move and you go, god, 636 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: I can double the value of my franchise. Like, what 637 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: are the Jags worth? They're an NFL team, so they're 638 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: worth a couple of billion. But you put them in London. Now, 639 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's going to go seamlessly or not. 640 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: But if they're just in London, much bigger fan base 641 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: in terms of quantity of people, you would have to 642 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: imagine the franchise would be worth. It was taking educated 643 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: guess fifty percent more, one hundred percent more. If it's 644 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: worth two and a half billion. Is it worth five? 645 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: Immediately putting in London. I'm just speaking out loud here, 646 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: but that doesn't feel crazy. Call me crazy. Mailback. I 647 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: forget if you're married or not, but I think I 648 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: want to propose to my girlfriend of six years three 649 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: in college. Three out any advice. I'm not married, no, 650 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: but we just bought a house, you know, congrats to 651 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: me and moving in. I mean I already live with her, 652 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: but we will. I get a little remodel project. My 653 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: friends at Angie, you know, led me to still going 654 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: through that process. That's you talk about a remodel process. 655 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: Taking people through it's exhausting, especially when you have no 656 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: clue what they're talking about in terms of like they 657 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: could throw any number at you. You're like, yeah, it 658 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: sounds good. So you see the number, You're like, holy shit, 659 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: that's a lott of money. I have a lot of 660 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: respect for you, you know, I to be that serious 661 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: with someone at a really young age, it was. It 662 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: was hard for me, for sure. I was not in 663 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: the mindset in my twenties. Only thing that came first 664 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: was work and trying to get further along in work 665 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: and relationships. You know, I didn't really get serious, serious 666 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: with the girls. I mean I had serious girlfriend like 667 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: high school and college, but marriage wasn't being in my 668 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: mindset coming out of college is work, work, work, and 669 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: really in my thirties and really the last I would 670 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: say four or five years, I think more of that 671 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: and we all mature different ages. So I respect someone 672 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: that you meet someone that you just if you know. 673 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm a big gut field guy. I've been like that 674 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: my whole life, whether it be professionally or personally. You 675 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: have a gut feel with someone you're working with, someone 676 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, and when you know, you know, 677 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: like so if she's the one and you know in 678 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: your gut and you know you've been dating six years, 679 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: But I would say three years in college. That means, 680 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: let's just pick a number. You start dating at twenty 681 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: or nineteen, you know it's so now you're what twenty five, 682 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: twenty six, You get married early, have kids early, you know, 683 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: being empty nester by fifty, you know, be playing golf 684 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: from fifty to seventy five with your kids. So it 685 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: could be fun. I don't necessarily have any advice of 686 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: how to do it. I've just seen my friends do it. 687 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: People do it on Instagram. She's the one. She's the 688 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: one by a ring you can afford, and just go 689 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: all in and let the chips follow what they may. 690 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: So congratulations. My advice is you have any reservations. One 691 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: thing I would say is don't do it for other 692 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: people's reasoning. Right, you're twenty five, twenty six years old. 693 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: Time's on your side, and I would imagine you're not 694 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 1: dating someone that's like thirty eight, so her time clock 695 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: if she's your age, like you, guys, got some time. 696 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: My one advice would be this, if you do get married, 697 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: enjoy your life for maybe a year or two. Now, 698 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe you guys are homebodies. You want to have children 699 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: right away, and I don't fault you for doing that. Listen, 700 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight. I don't have kids yet. So by 701 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: the time I have a kid, I'll be thirty nine 702 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: forty years old, which I plan on being young. I'm 703 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: planning on being like Pete Carroll seventy years old. Kids 704 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: like twenty five, I'm just running around, you know, seventy 705 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: By the time i'm seventy might be the new fifty five. 706 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: But the one thing I would recommend I don't know 707 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: you the way you operate in life. I would just 708 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: enjoy each other's company without children for a year or two. 709 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: Maybe she's all in wants to have children right away. Listen, 710 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: that's I get it. But yeah, I don't think it's 711 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: crazy to just have a good time for a year 712 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: or two. I want to say a good time. I 713 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: don't mean like go out all the time. I just 714 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: mean just enjoy each other. I think some people have kids, 715 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: and I've my brother had kids. His son's three three 716 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: and a half now, probably craziest three and a half 717 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: year old I've ever met. It's it's a lot, you know, 718 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: it's your life. You become pretty mature pretty fast, which 719 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: is important. I want multiple children, and listen, I'm not 720 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: saying that you should do it my way, but I 721 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: do think if you have the opportunity to just kind 722 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: of hang out and just enjoy enjoy each other's company 723 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: just as you two without children at twenty five, twenty six, 724 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: twenty seven is not the craziest idea. But follow your gut. 725 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: If your gut says Marrier, Marrier, live happily ever after, 726 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: and uh, good luck to you guys. Okay, last question, 727 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: hope you had a great weekend. If you had to 728 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: start a franchise a day and you had to go 729 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: all in, uh and you had to go on was 730 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: play on the field thus far and their injury history? 731 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: Would you take Purdy or Lance? Thank for the great takes. 732 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: I think I would take Brog Purdy that I wouldn't hesitate. 733 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of arguments in forty nine er 734 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: land of like it's not fair to Trey Lance. The 735 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: NFL is not fair. You know one thing I base 736 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: my take is on Trey Lance, good guy. Everything I've heard, 737 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: high character, guy, tries really hard. You don't get to 738 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: dictate who drafts you and whether you're overdrafted. Right, it 739 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: wasn't Solomon Thomas's or Cleveland ferrol fault that they weren't 740 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: good enough to be, you know, worthy of the third 741 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: or fourth pick they were drafted there and especially Cleveland 742 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: should have been like a second round pick. Turns out 743 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas. I'm not trying to act like I'm some 744 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: genius scout here now that I just podcast for a living, 745 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: But if you watched him, it was clear tween your 746 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: body couldn't bend, not super powerful, plays hard, number three 747 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: overall pick. It was insane, and both guys are gonna 748 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: have longer careers. They're gonna play for seven to ten years. 749 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: But where they were drafted like that was the team 750 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: doing that, not them and Trey Lance this COVID year 751 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: didn't play, not a huge recruit, No one in the 752 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: Power five wanted him to play quarterback. Goes to a 753 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: program that is like Alabama meets Ohio State meets Clemson 754 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: of D one DOUBLEA. They beat the shit out of everybody. 755 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: He played well, but it didn't translate to the NFL. 756 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: Right like one thing that he did in college. If 757 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: you go back and just watch his North Dakota State 758 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: highlights his one year as a full time starter, they 759 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: won the national championship. He ran a lot. Running away 760 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: from a dude that plays for South Dakota State or 761 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: Weaver State or Montana State is clearly not the same 762 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: of running away from NFL players. His running does not translate. 763 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Justin Fields, Lamar Jackson, Anthony Richardson, like those guys, 764 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: their athletic ability immediately translated, and they were confident it did. 765 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: Why because they had played the best players in college 766 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: that they were going to see immediately. In the NFL, 767 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: Trey's athleticism doesn't translate as a runner in his passing. 768 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: He's just not naturally accurate. Brock Purdy sneaky, more athletic 769 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: than you think, is very comfortable avoiding people. Now, he's 770 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: not a runner, but his athleticism shows because he's very 771 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: instinctive playing the position. And then when you play for 772 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, they're not looking for Patrick Mahomes. 773 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: They have Deebo Samuel who catches a lot of his 774 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: balls behind the line of scrimmage or within ten yards 775 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage, Brandon Ayuk within fifteen yards 776 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage, George Kittle tight end, Christian McCaffrey. 777 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: In the running backs, their play caller is a run 778 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: for first forty three year old. You know, so, I 779 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: think Brox is a much better player now in theory, 780 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: could Trey pass him in years to come? Not right, 781 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 1: not currently, but over a five year span. Sure, forty 782 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: nine ers don't have that leeway anymore. This guy's going 783 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: into his third year. After the season, you got to 784 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option, and they've admitted like 785 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: he's no longer the starter. He's currently competing to be 786 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: the backup. Was a story today my guy Matt Mayoko. 787 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: They expect brock Purty to be cleared by the middle 788 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: of training camp. Now, still a lot to be determined 789 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: how his elbow reacts. We got a long way to 790 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: go till then. But Trey Lance is competing to be 791 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: the back. Zach Wilson is a backup quarterback. And whether 792 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: it was Aaron Rodgers or whether it was Derek Carr, 793 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson was not going to be the starter for 794 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: the New York Jets like that ended. And I've been 795 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: saying this for a while. Because of the amount of 796 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: money in the NFL ten to fifteen years ago, you 797 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: made less as a high pick. Well, I guess technically 798 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: some of those guys made a lot, right the Sam 799 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Bradford's and Dominican sues. But when I drafted you high, 800 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: you were on scholarship for several years. Those days are done. 801 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: Teams just don't have time, Coaches will get fired. I 802 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: got a pivot. There's so much pressure in the league that, 803 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago, Trey Lance is getting another year 804 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: to figure it out. They just don't have time now 805 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: and last year, the team like kind of was, you know, 806 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: clamoring for Jimmy Garoppolo to come back. When Trey got 807 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: hurt and Jimmy won that game Week two, they basically 808 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: threw him a party on the field. It was crazy. 809 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers players, a lot of defensive 810 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: players like they're not into figuring out on the fly 811 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: here with Trey Lance, like those days are over. They 812 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: tried it was it a misspick? It sure looks like that. 813 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: Now here's the other thing. If you are going to 814 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: miss on pick on picks, which is inevitable, you gotta 815 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 1: be able to pivot fast. Howie Roseman missed on Jalen Rager. 816 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: Pivot fast. If they've got Trey Lance. The forty nine 817 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: Ers told you everything you need to know about when 818 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: they signed Sam Darmoald. If they still believe that Trey 819 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: Lance could be really good, they would have just basically 820 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: named him the backup slash. He's gonna start early on, 821 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna ease pretty back in. They're not saying that, 822 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: why because Kyle doesn't trust him as a player. And 823 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: the thing in pro football, and this gets back to 824 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: Salem and Thomas and Trey Lance, you can be a 825 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: great guy. The coaches, the executives can really like you. 826 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: Like we talk a lot about questionable character guys. We 827 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: don't talk enough about really good character guys that just 828 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: aren't good enough because the bottom line in this business, 829 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: like you gotta be able to play and at certain 830 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 1: positions quarterback, pass rusher, offensive tackle, you gotta be really 831 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: good or you just get replaced, whether it's Wally pipped 832 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: or you just get benched. And I think what turns 833 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: out is the forty nine Ers made an aggressive move 834 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: that you know was happened because Jimmy Garoppolo had been 835 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: injured the previous year. They also traded up from that. 836 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: You should never do this. If you're gonna trade up 837 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: from twelve to me, you got to get either to 838 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: one or two. They traded up to three. Like, looking back, 839 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: I think they'd like a redo on that. They could 840 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: have just taken I don't know, Michael Parsons, you know, 841 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: taking someone else. I think they would definitely like a 842 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: redo on that one. But you don't get redeos in 843 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: the draft. You get who you pick, and they picked 844 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. They got very very lucky. Now I'm not 845 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: acting like Brock Purty is just gonna be some ten 846 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 1: year starter, but he is definitely better in Trey Lance 847 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: right now, definitely better in Trey Lance heading into the season, 848 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: assuming he's healthy. And I think that's the forty nine 849 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: ers are living in the presence and because of the 850 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: way contracts work, I don't think you have a really 851 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: some long Trey Lance needs reps. He needs to play well. 852 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: How does he get to play? This team does and 853 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: have the runway of last year justin fields, whether the 854 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: Bears won or loss, reps, reps, reps, reps, that's all 855 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: that matters right this year. C J. Stroud, Anthony Riginson, reps, reps, reps, 856 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, forty nine are trying to win the Super Bowl. 857 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: So if you can't complete basic out routes or comebacks 858 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: or Kyle feel comfortable about play calling with you as 859 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: a passer, you're just not gonna play. So that's probably 860 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: a long winded way of saying, Brock Party, appreciate everyone listening, 861 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: thanks to my guy Wholests on the audio, my guy 862 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: James on the video, and appreciate all you guys for 863 00:49:37,719 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: making this podcast possible. Talk soon the volume