1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of hollywood Land. Does it feel like you're 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: stuck in limbo? Standing under a flickering street light at 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 2: I got you. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to hollywood Land, the Rap Party. Welcome to the 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: hollywood Land bonus episode. That's right, it's the Rap Party. 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: This is where you come to hang out. After that 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: last camera rolls, after the gate is checked, the director 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: calls cut, the studio a lot empties out. My name 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: is Zeth Lundy, writer and editor at Double Elvis, and 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: full episode subject of hollywood Land, Bruce Lee. We're also 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: previewing next week's episode on John Holmes and the Wonderland Murders. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about movie and music recommendations, and we're 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: going to check out your voicemails, text dms and emails. 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: So come on, everybody, let's party. 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: What would you do to become immortal? 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: Would you globe trot around the world in search of 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: some fabled chalice that held eternal life? Or would you 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: let one of the undead bite you in the neck? 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you'd cry, genically freeze yourself like Teddy ballgame and 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: hope for the best. I don't know about you, but 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't spend a lot of time thinking about immortality. 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, for one thing, it just sounds exhausting. And then, 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: of course, the older you get, the more you're focused 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: on the passage of time, which makes immortality seem even 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: more ludicrous than it ever did, if it seemed anything 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: but ludicrous in the first place. Hollywood, however, thinks a 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: lot about immortality. Off the top of my head. For instance, 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: just this year alone, you've got Ryan Coogler's excellent movie Sinners, 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: and also there's Guy Ritchie's new Apple TV plus movie 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Fountain of Youth, both of which have immortality in some 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: fashion on the brain. But Hollywood has always had immortality 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: on the brain, and that's the whole point. Movies are 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: their own form of immortality. They're the closest we're ever 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: going to get to living forever. And boy howdy, if 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Liam Gallagher wants to do so, is he once proclaimed 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: loudly nasally in song, he needs to work on starring 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: in some gritty eight to twenty four drama stat because 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: whether it's Humphrey Bogart or Marilyn Monroe or Heath Ledger 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: or River Phoenix, icons of cinema come to life every 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: time one of their films is projected on a big 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: screen or it's fired up on a TV in your 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: living room. And I certainly don't mean to trivialize the 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: fact that these actors were real people with families and 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: loved ones who miss them. But I believe that more 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: than any other art form, more than music, even film 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: has this power to freeze a moment in time and 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: allow us to revisit it over and over again, and that, 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: in its own way, is a form of immortality. This 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: week's subject of Hollywood Land, Bruce Lee, is certainly one 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: of those immortal figures from cinema history. He transcends cinema, though, 54 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: because as a revolutionary Kunfu practitioner and teacher, as a 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: disruptor in the worlds of martial arts and movies, and 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: as an outsider who fought both metaphorically and literally to 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: get to the top. What Bruce Lee represents in the 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: sphere of immortality is much more than a good looking 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: face on a movie screen, but even more than being immortal, 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: The word I often associate with Bruce Lee is invincible, which, okay, 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: is its own form of immortality. To be invincible, to 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: be incapable of being defeated or bested by those who 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: want to see you fail for any variety of reasons. 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: And there were many who wanted Bruce Lee to fail. 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking to a lot of people and many more 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: who wanted to be the reason that he failed, who 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: wanted to fight him, thinking they could beat him and 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: in doing so then they would get to go sit 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: on this imaginary throne of invincibility. As impossible as it 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: may be to believe when you watch Enter the Dragon, 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee was only human. He was a different kind 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: of human than most of us, but human nonetheless, and 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure as a lot of you listening can relate. 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up seeing Bruce Lee as this 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: superhuman person long before I saw any of his movies, 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and part of this perception was that he couldn't die 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: like the rest of us, that the only way he 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: could be defeated was by this super secret, super hard 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: to master death touch, as it was known, the vibrating palm. 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: This is sort of the thing that you always heard 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: growing up or at least I did gen X growing 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: up that Bruce Lee was in a fight. He was 83 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: hit with a precise attack on a pressure point in 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: his body at some point in his life, could have 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: been days or weeks or even years before, but that 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: was what did him in, this strange, secret, super hard 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: to master move, and that that did him in because 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: he was otherwise invincible to the source of boring illnesses 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: or injuries that plague us regular folk. If you haven't 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: heard the Bruce Lee episode of Hollywood Land, we get 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: into all this and we unpack the best wee cand 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: and the myth versus reality and invincibility versus immortality in 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: a way that I think is totally compelling. And even 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: if you don't know that Bruce Lee's story back to front, 95 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you're still going to learn a lot that you didn't know, 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: a lot that I didn't even know when I began 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: to research this episode, not least of which was that Bruce, 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: who taught his version of kunfu to the likes of 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: Steph McQueen and James Coburn and Kareem abdul Jabbar, was 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: the primary suspect for a hot minute, and the Sharon 101 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: Tate murders, at least in the eyes of Roman Polansky. 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: And speaking of murders, next week in Hollywood Land, we're 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: bringing you the insane story of one of the most 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: infamous murders in Hollywood history, the Wonderland Murders aka the 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: four on the Floor murders, which happened way back in 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: the summer of nineteen eighty one. That's right, while Superman 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: two was the number one movie at the box office, 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: while Betty Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes was the number 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: one song on the pop chart, four people were brutally 110 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: murdered in a townhouse on Wonderland Avenue. And the cast 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: of characters in this story includes not only the legendary 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: porn star John Holmes, who got himself mixed up in 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: some real bad shit, but also the legendary Los Angeles 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: gangster and club owner Eddie Nash, who incidentally is going 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: to pop up in a new Nicky six episode of 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: our sister podcast, Disgraceland in a few weeks. 117 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: But I digress. 118 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: If you've seen the movie Wonderland with Al Kilmer Rip 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. And of course, if 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: you've seen Paul Thomas Anderson's Incredible Boogie Nights. There's an 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: intense scene near the end of that film with a 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: coked up drug dealer in a satin robe and a 123 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: speedo played by Alfred Molina who's waving up loaded gun around. 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, right Well, that scene 125 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: was inspired by the real life story of Eddie Nash 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: and John Holmes and the Wonderland Murderers. But you haven't 127 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: heard this story told the way we tell it in 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: hollywood Land, and trust me, you do not want to 129 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: miss it. So get ready for that. And I want 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: to know what other stories do you want to hear 131 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: told hollywood Land style. What other immortal icons of the 132 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: silver screen cross paths with the world of true crime? 133 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: Hit me up, let me know on the socials at 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: Disgrace Lampod, email me at Disgracelampod at gmail dot com, 135 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: or call or text six one seven nine oh six 136 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: six six three eight, which is also the number you 137 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: call to talk to the host of hollywood Land, Jake Brennan, 138 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: who incidentally is going to join me in just a 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: minute after this quick break. Don't go anywhere, Yes, yes, yes, 140 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: we are back once again in the wrap party. And 141 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: before I get Jake in here, just a quick reminder 142 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: to all you Apple podcast listeners make sure you have 143 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: auto downloads turned on for hollywood Land. 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If you're not doing it 154 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: via Apple either way, go to disgracelandpod dot com slash 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: membership to get on board and listen ad free. Okay, 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: the eagle has landed, Jake Brennan. What is the good word? 157 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 3: The good word is am I officially the eagle? Did 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: you do that then the last podcast as well? 159 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: No, you're the eagle today for today's show. 160 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: The eagle is my spirit animal. I remember, you know, 161 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: back when the American bald eagle. Just a little side 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: note here, the American bald eagle was more endangered than 163 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: perhaps it is these days. Like a long time ago, 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: like this was like twenty five years ago. I was 165 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: on a beach uh in Maine or Vermont or something. 166 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: It was literally the fourth of July, and I saw 167 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: a American bald eagle fly into the water. I was 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: stoned as well, fly right into the water in front 169 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: of me, rip a fish out of the water, and 170 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: fly away, And I was like, that is the most 171 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: badass shit I've ever seen in my life. And it 172 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: was at a time when nobody saw American eagle bald 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: eagles is flying around, so I was like, I took 174 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: that as a sign. I've since seen many, but I 175 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: can relate to the to the American bald eagles, so 176 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: I like the eagle as landed. 177 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: They still kind of take my breath away when I 178 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: see them, you know what I mean. They're pretty fucking awesome. 179 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: They're majestic andic. They truly are. They truly are. 180 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: Whoever chose the Foe founders had their branding on point. 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: That's all I get to say. 182 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: They were probably stone hanging out on a lake and 183 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: they saw an eagle rip a fish out of the water, 184 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: and they were like, Holy fuck, that has to be 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: our mascot, right there. 186 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: Was smoking that Martha Washington, hemp the exactly. 187 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's a cool cool aid or hip hip lady. 188 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: What's that line from Washington? 189 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: Was a hiphip lady? Man? 190 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: I love that guy. Oh shit, you a big Bruce 191 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Lee fan. 192 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. And I you know, I was thinking 193 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: about this coming in when I was a kid. I 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: was not one of those guys who was drawn to 195 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: Bruce Lee, which is is kind of weird now because 196 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: you know, I'm working on this thing right now where 197 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 3: karate is a big piece of it, which is different 198 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: from kung fu. And if Bruce Lee did he practice 199 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: kung fu or karate, he was kung fu. 200 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: R Yeah it was a version of kung fu. Yeah yeah, 201 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: a heretical version of kung fu. 202 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: My biggest memory of Bruce Lee as a child is 203 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: Kareem Abdul Jabbar and just being like, oh my god, 204 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: that's the center for the Lakers in this weird movie 205 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 3: with this little guy and they're beating the ship out 206 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: of each other, and that that was what drew me 207 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: to it more than more than Bruce Lee. So unfortunately, 208 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: you're not talking to a huge Bruce Lee fan for 209 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: this episode. 210 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I'm the same way. I never 211 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: I never watched any of those, like you know all 212 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: the films that Wu Tang Clan was inspired by, right, 213 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: I never got into that stuff, never got into that. 214 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: That just wasn't my bag. 215 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: So let's get into let's jump out of Bruce Lee 216 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: for a minute. Let's get into some messages from some 217 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: of the hollywood Land listeners. 218 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: Here. 219 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: Let's see over on Spotify Spotify Bill Strobel. Bill's talking 220 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: about the Will Smith episode of hollywood Land that came 221 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: out a little while back. Bill's from the two one five, 222 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: which he says is Philly. I'll take his word for it, 223 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: so he says, more than just other rappers thought Will 224 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: was corny, but you can't argue with what he built. 225 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: It really doesn't get much bigger. The song you didn't 226 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: mention is the brand new funk that is Will and 227 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: Jeff's undeniable best song. Bill from the two one five. 228 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Thanks for the insight. We're talking 229 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: about the the corniness of Will Smith from the source 230 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: itself right there in Philly. But Bill, I gotta tell 231 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: you corny or no, I don't know the Brand New Funk. 232 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Do you know that song? 233 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: I don't. But to Bill's point his larger point. As 234 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: much as I despise Will Smith, and I truly do, 235 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: I can't stand the guy. I do love some of 236 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: his songs, like Summertime comes on and I'm just like, 237 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: this is fucking great, and even that cheesy Miami thing 238 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: that comes on, I'm bumping it. He's a cheese ball, 239 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: for sure, but he's a talented cheese ball. And I 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: have no doubt Bill that Brand New Funk is a 241 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: great song, and it's like one of the first things 242 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go listen to after we get off this recording. 243 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same. I don't know. 244 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's on the first record or 245 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: was it the second record. 246 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: He's the DJ, I'm the rapper. Which we'll always live. 247 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: In my memory is my friend and I we painted 248 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: the garage in the back of my house when I 249 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: was a kid, and for my dad, we didn't really paint, 250 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Sorry Dad. We would more flipping the tapes on the 251 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: cassette deck. But we had that cassette going and I 252 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: cannot remember if that song is on there or not. 253 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna look it up. So thanks Bill for 254 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: the recommendation. We're gonna check that out. 255 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: You'll remember when you fired up. 256 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: Also on Spotify, we got a couple of comments about 258 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: our David Lynch episode, which is more specifically about the 259 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: true crime murder case that inspired David Lynch's television show 260 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks. Andy al Berger says, fascinating episode. Thank you 261 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: for your research and excellent narration. Well, thank you Andy 262 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: for that comment, and thank you Jake for the narration 263 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: on that episode. Also on Spotify, Emily wrote, I'm a 264 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: millennial and Twin Peaks is my favorite show of all 265 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: time thanks to my gen X mom, who is now 266 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: a sheriff and a true crime enthusiast. Emily, shout out 267 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: to you to your mom, Shout out to all the 268 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: gen X moms and dads out there turning their kids 269 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: on at Twin Peaks. I got to say I tried 270 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: that myself with my own daughter, who's sixteen. She's obsessed 271 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: with true crime stuff. Mind Hunter is like her favorite show, 272 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and she's actually, I think seriously thinking about pursuing criminal 273 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: psychology after high school. 274 00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: But that's another story. 275 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: Anyways, I wanted to show our Twin Peaks, And so 276 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: we got like halfway through the pilot episode and I 277 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: looked over and she was completely tuned out on her phone. 278 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: So, I don't know. It's too campy, to soapy, too slow. 279 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. But I don't know. 280 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: What do you think, man, You're gonna turn your kids 281 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: onto peks at some point? 282 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: Damn I am. I'm thinking. I'm wondering, now, can I 283 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: can I get it past the sensors And by sensors, 284 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: I mean my wife to get it in front of 285 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: my to get it in front of my eleven year old? 286 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: Is it too You think it's too violent for an 287 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: eleven year old? Uh? 288 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: I haven't rewatched the entire series. Again. 289 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe that's less the violence and more sort 290 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: of the uh, the the set. 291 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I've tucked myself out of it already. 292 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I would think that I would 293 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: think that Twin Peaks would represent a sort of sort 294 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: of timelessness that young kids who are into. 295 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: True crime would pick up on. Yeah, But then again, 296 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, because because we were raised on on 297 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: on these this type of content that was made in 298 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: a certain way and maybe it maybe it is made 299 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: in a very slow manner. I'm not sure. It's not 300 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: just that. 301 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: It's just the the campiness of it, like the soap 302 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: operaness of it all. And again, we were raised on 303 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: sort of the soap operas were sort of always there, 304 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: and so this sort of like was this weird, bizarre 305 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: uh skewering of a soap opera, And so I think 306 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: we all sort of accepted it for this lack of 307 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: a better term, just transgressive take on that genre. And 308 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't really think it's in our kids language now 309 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: and they have a hard time with it, you. 310 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, if you don't, it's funny. I've never thought 311 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: of this really before that, but Twin Peaks was subverting 312 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: the soap opera. I can. I can think of the 313 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: music score now, like when Donna and UH and Bobby 314 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: would be like ending a scene or whatever, and like 315 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: the soap element would really they really kind of die 316 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: that up and to subvert it. But you have to 317 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: know what they're subverting to your point, to understand what 318 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: they're doing. Otherwise it probably just scans as cheesiness right 319 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: now to somebody young who has no context of what 320 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: soap operas were what they are, et cetera. 321 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: One scene in particular, when the cops or whoever informs 322 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: Laura Palmer's mom in the beginning that her daughter's dead 323 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: and the mom like just like screams and cries, like 324 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: my daughter was laughing at that part because it was 325 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: just so over the top, and I was like, you're 326 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: not supposed to be laughing. 327 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it, But anyways, that's fascinating, that's fascinating. I wonder, like, 328 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: you know, Twilight Zone isn't subverting anything really except you know, 329 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: American society at large, but like it's not commenting on media. 330 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: With the media as my point, it just was what 331 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: it was and it is super campy. And I didn't 332 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: grow up with Twilight Zone. I didn't come to it 333 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: until I was an adult, Like yeah, like ten years 334 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: ago really is when I kind of fell in love 335 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: with it. And I wonder, I wonder why. I think 336 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: maybe maybe maybe for us, like pre Internet gen X, 337 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: maybe we're just apt to accept these this type of 338 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: content that was camp that was campy, and not to 339 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: actually be repelled by it. But everything you know, in 340 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: a sort of post ironic Internet world is geared to 341 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: just sniff that shit out and they have no sort 342 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: of positive context at all for it and they just bail. 343 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what's happening here. 344 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, could be. Could be. 345 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: It's like you can't listen to Harry Nilssen's Without You 346 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: without laughing now, because you know the power ballad without 347 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: You from Nilson Schmielsen that's been used so many times 348 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: in movies as this like punchline now, do you know 349 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? 350 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 351 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: But on its merits, it has value. And I say this, 352 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like be like, oh, I have 353 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: cool kids, but literally, because my wife plays Harry Nilssen 354 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: on the way to school all the time. My seven 355 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: year old is in love. He's in love with Harry 356 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: Nilson and he like requests it. So he has like 357 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: no context of he's ever seen rules of attraction, you 358 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean. He doesn't, he doesn't know that. 359 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: But he's just like this song fucking rocks, you know. 360 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: So it's weird, man. It's I love the subject because 361 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: it's how people get hit with media and how it 362 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: informs their tastes and it's a very interesting thing. So 363 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: what was it was, Emily, was that the listener who 364 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 3: wrote in about this and her and her kid. 365 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: Emily wrote in and it was her mom, the gen. 366 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: X sheriff who introduced her to Yeah. I mean I 367 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: it's first of all, I want to know where her 368 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: mom's a sheriff. But I just I thank the listener 369 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: for the text because it just got us thinking on 370 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: this and it's something I want to keep talking about. 371 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: And it's it's a benefit of like having grown up 372 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: pre millennial. You know, we have a completely different context 373 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: for this stuff. 374 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and everyone listening out there, what do you think? 375 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Are you gen X? 376 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: Have you tried to get your kids into stuff like 377 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks, Twilight Zone? 378 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: How did that go? 379 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Let us know and let us know other stuff too. 380 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: Who else we should be talking about here in the 381 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Rap Party or in the Hollywood Land episodes? Call us 382 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: text us six one seven nine oh six six six 383 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: three eight, hit us up on Instagram, Facebook X, send 384 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: an email to Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com. We 385 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: want to hear from you, but first you're going to 386 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: hear from us, specifically our Bruce Lee adjacent music and 387 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: movie recommendations, which you're going to get right after this 388 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: fast break moren a minute Once again, we are back 389 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: Zeth Lundy and Jake Brennan here, and once again it's 390 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: that section of the rap party that we're calling for 391 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: your consideration. This is where Jake and I give you 392 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: music and movie recommendations. But the twist is that they 393 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: are recommendations inspired by the actor or actress or director 394 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: or whoever recovering this week in our full episode of 395 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land Call. These are adjacent recommendations. All right, Jake, 396 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm dying to know what three recks you've got for 397 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: us this week. 398 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 3: This is not easy. This is not easy because, like 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: I said, I'm not a huge Bruce Lee fan. I 400 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: didn't consume a bunch of Bruce culture. But I started 401 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: to content excuse me, I just started to just think 402 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: about it in terms of, like, Okay, immediately, what do 403 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: I think of when I think Bruce Ly And I 404 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: think Okay, kung Fu? And I thought Everybody's kung Fu Fighting? 405 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: And I thought, I hate that song. So then I thought, 406 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: what else do I got? So I thought of Karate, 407 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 3: And then I thought of the nineties emo band from Boston, 408 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: Massachusetts or Cambridge wherever they're from on discord called Karate, 409 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: who I'd seen a gazillion times upstairs at the Middle East. 410 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: Just a beautiful time to be alive in Boston, by 411 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: the way, and into music was in the early nineties, 412 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 3: mid nineties, late nineties and going to shows upstairs at 413 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: the Middle East. I saw some great bands there in 414 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: addition to Karate, Rye Coolish and bunch of great bands. 415 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: But I remember seeing Karate there and I just feeling special, 416 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: feeling like I'm onto some shit here with about one 417 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty other people in the world and no 418 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: one else, and we're into something really fucking cool. And 419 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: that first Karate album, which I have on vinyl and 420 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: it has a big red wine stain all over the cover. 421 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: The first self titled Karate record is incredible and I 422 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: listened to it before coming on here just to make 423 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: sure that it wasn't dated. And it sounds pretentious and 424 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: emo as fuck, but that's what they were. These guys 425 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: were like, I don't even know what the hell they were. 426 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 3: They were aliens. But that record is incredible. So if 427 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: you're into that type of thing, check out the self 428 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: titled Karate album from I think ninety six. I think 429 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: that's when that came out. 430 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Do you think that was the peak time nineties, the nineties. 431 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: Nineteen nineties, was that the peak time for that sort 432 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: of feeling of I've found this band that nobody else 433 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: knows about and it's super special to me. 434 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: Feels like the last time for sure, because because you know, 435 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: we get into that's right around the time that the 436 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: Internet starts to completely disrupt music for sure, music industry 437 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: and how we consume and how we get it. Absolutely, 438 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: we didn't know it was going to change. It did, 439 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: and I feel like, you know, it's funny, but I 440 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: feel like we're at that I've thought about this this 441 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: moment a lot in the last few weeks, but I 442 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: feel like we're at that exact same moment right now 443 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: with AI and artificial intelligence. And I feel like the 444 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: people who are doing one of two things right now, 445 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: they're using AI or trying to find ways to use 446 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: AI to enhance what they're doing, not replace what they're doing. 447 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: I do feel like we're going to look back ten 448 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: years from now and go, Okay, the creators, you know, 449 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, the 450 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: creators who figured out how to use artificial intelligence to 451 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 3: enhance the human aspect of their creation, of their creative 452 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: are the ones who actually thrived and those who who 453 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: just ignored it are going to get left behind? And 454 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about this in a way that's like, Okay, 455 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: need to be using AI to write our scripts for 456 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: us or to take over what writers are doing in Hollywood. 457 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: I think that's an oversimplification and it's too binary. AI 458 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: is too powerful, and as creatives, what I'm sort of 459 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: thinking about in relative to Hollywood Land is like, Okay, 460 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: how are filmmakers, how are our screenwriters? How are producers 461 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: going to be using this to help enhance the human 462 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: side of what they're doing? 463 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: So what do you think Bruce Lee would have thought 464 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: of AI? I don't. 465 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: I think Bruce Lee would have probably created alternate scenes 466 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: for Once upon a Time in Hollywood with AI that 467 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: would have shown him not getting his ass kicked by 468 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: Cliff Booth, Which brings me to my second recommendation, which, 469 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: and again I know I had to stretch here a 470 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: little bit, just rambling Gambling Man by Bob Seeker. You know, 471 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: I got from Bruce Lee to Cliff Booth kicking his ass? 472 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: What a great fucking song, right? 473 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: And that song is just emblematic of that character. And 474 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: if that song's not in the continuing whatever the hell's 475 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: about Cliff Booth, they got to do something like Bob 476 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: seekers should just give that song to the filmmaker's im 477 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: perpetuity to track Cliff Booth's escapades. And I think it's 478 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: true because it's such an unpopular take. That's the way 479 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: my brain works. Not always, I have nothing to base 480 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: this song. But you remember when Once upon a Time 481 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: in Hollywood came out, Tarantino got all this shit for 482 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: not representing Bruce Lee in the correct way, and the 483 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: family was pissed, and it just made me go, like, 484 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: come on, like, if you're gonna be that sensitive over 485 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: one depiction of you know what I mean, Like, it 486 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: made me think it was all the more real, you know. 487 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Sure, And there's a lot of evidence out there that 488 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee was cocky. I mean, there was a reason 489 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: he had a chip on his shoulder and we get 490 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: into that in the episode. But also so that scene 491 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: is happening in Cliff Booth's mind like that, that's that's 492 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: him either remembering this moment the way he wants to 493 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: remember it, or it's him sort of imagining what would 494 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: happen like it's it's not necessarily meant to be a 495 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: face value thing about Bruce Lee. 496 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: Oh dude, you just fucking blew my mind. I never 497 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: thought of that. 498 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Right, It's like because he's up, because he thinks about 499 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: what he says, like, oh, Randy's you know staffing this, right, 500 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: He's like a Randy, and he thinks about how Randy 501 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: hates him. Right, And I think he might even be 502 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: a thing that he's just imagining in his mind that 503 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: he would kick Bruce Lee's ass, because just he's that's 504 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: his character, you know. 505 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: That, that's who the dude was. Fantastic, fantastic, all right. 506 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: My third recommendation Bruce Lee music recommendation. You know, I 507 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: could easily tell you to go watch all ten episodes 508 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: of the Wu Tang Clan in disgrace, Sander, listen, excuse 509 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 3: me to all ten Wu Tang Clan episodes, and we 510 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: do go heavily into into the Bruce Lee of it all. 511 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to do that. And you know 512 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: there was time, Zeth, when I briefly worked for an 513 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 3: ad agency and my whole job was to figure out 514 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: music for commercials and audio branding. So I studied Lao. 515 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 3: I studied Lalo. I don't love that at all. I 516 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: was not good at it. I hated it. 517 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: I was imagining you working like an office job, like 518 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: you got to be in here by by eight o'clock 519 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: at your desk. 520 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 3: Brennan, No, it was not, yeah man anyways, But I thought, hey, 521 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: I got to learn from the best here when it 522 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: comes to you know how how emotion is used in 523 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: music with pictures. So I studied LaAlO Shiffern, the famous 524 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: composer who did the soundtrack for Entered the Dragon. And 525 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: I went and I listened to the Enter the Dragon 526 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: theme this morning, and it's fucking incredible. And so if 527 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: you're looking for some old school Bruce Lee music vibes, 528 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 3: you can do no better than Lalo Schiffer. 529 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: Awesome, great recommendations. I love. 530 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: I love all those. Let me pivot here to movie recommendations. 531 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: So all right, so I'm thinking about Bruce Lee. He 532 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: died in nineteen seventy three, just one month before Entered 533 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: the Dragon premiered in the States, and that's the movie 534 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: that made him a huge star, right, so he becomes 535 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: huge after he dies. And I also, I need, just 536 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: need to briefly mention that it's unbelievably. His son also 537 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: had a very similar thing, Brandon Lee, who died on 538 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: the set of The Crow, and then The Crow came 539 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: out after his death. But instead of just picking Bruce 540 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Lee films, because again, I'm just I'm not a big 541 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee connoisseur, and just that just seemed kind of boring. 542 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: So I was thinking about, what are some other posthumous 543 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: roles for films, you know, for actors or directors whatever. Right, 544 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: most obvious choice here is Heath Ledger and The Dark Knight, 545 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know, it seemed a little too obvious, 546 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: so I tried to challenge myself a little bit. Stanley 547 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: Kubrick is probably just as obvious, maybe a little bit less. 548 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: But thought about Stanley Kubrick, the great director who passed 549 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: away in nineteen ninety nine, just months before his final film, 550 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: Eyes Wide Shut, came out. You've, of course you've seen 551 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: that movie. 552 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: That movie killed him, right, isn't that the you know? 553 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: Editing that movie and having a deal with the Tom 554 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: Cruise and no Cole Kidman of it all just like 555 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: just made his heart stop and he just died on 556 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: the cutting room floor. Isn't that what happened in May? Okay? 557 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he also may have ruined their marriage as well. 558 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course I've seen that movie a little. 559 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: My favorite little know like recent thing about that movie 560 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: is that the guy who plays the piano player, who's 561 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: the character name I'm forgetting and I'm even forgetting the 562 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: guy's real. 563 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: Name, Nick Nightingale. 564 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: Uh Nick Nightingale. 565 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: Great, great grab. 566 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: You just had that. It is to Todd Fields, the director. 567 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my point. Todd Fields, the guy who made Tar, 568 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: the incredible, incredible movie from the last couple of years, 569 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: forget about it. Yeah, just amazing. 570 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, he also made In the Bedroom, which as 571 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: a manor, is probably one of, if not the most 572 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: credible main movie as far as people and the way 573 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: they talk and whatever. 574 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: So anyway, it's worth Yeah. 575 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh man, I want to be a manor. I want 576 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: to be a manor so bad you don't even know. 577 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: I want to go it. 578 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: We're pretty welcoming. 579 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I saw Wisewai Shut when it first came 580 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: out back in ninety nine. I was on a cross 581 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: country road trip. Actually, I think I saw it in 582 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Santa Cruz or Monterey in California. It doesn't matter, but 583 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: it legit shocked me when I first saw it, And 584 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, I was young and I just graduated from 585 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: film school, and I think I was looking through it 586 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: through this lens of like, oh, Sanley Kubrick didn't finish 587 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: this movie. Some studio executive fucked with the final cut, 588 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: so it wasn't really Kubrick's thing or whatever, and so 589 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: I just sort of dismissed it a little bit, I 590 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: think at the time. But the more I've watched it 591 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: over the years, it might be like one of my 592 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 1: favorite Kubrick movies. And I know that the Kubrick's one 593 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: of the masters, and I know that this is like 594 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: heresy to say, but I've kind of like outgrown, not 595 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: outgrown Kubrick, but I just a lot of his movies 596 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: just leave me cold. 597 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: You know. 598 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm all there for the Shining and Doctor Strangelove and 599 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: the Killing and eyeswetch Shut, of course, but I don't know. 600 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: My tastes have turned and I'd rather watch icewedch Shut 601 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 1: these days than two thousand and one. 602 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: But that's just me. 603 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: Well, the guy made what nine total movies something like that. 604 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: He didn't make a lot and the ones you just mentioned, 605 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: The Killing nineteen fifties, Doctor strangel Of nineteen sixties, Ye, 606 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: the Shining nineteen eighty, nineteen eighties, and Tom Cruise, Nicole 607 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: Kidman's you know sex video that's in nineteen nineties, so 608 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: it's it's he's all over and he's in. You can't really, 609 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: you can't really compare his films. I mean, I know 610 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: people do when you can, but it's they're just made 611 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: in different so many different eras. The film measure and 612 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: technology was all different. And then you know he made 613 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: that film about the astronauts landing on the Moon too, 614 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: and you know that one probably got the most coverage. 615 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: But speaking of conspiracy theories, I have a question related 616 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: to Stanley Kubrick Andized White Shut for the Hollywood land 617 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: listeners out there. I don't believe that the moon landing 618 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: was faked, by the way, but I do I do 619 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: know that there's a conspiracy theory about Eyes Wide Shut 620 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: being based on the Rothschilds, And I'm kind of like 621 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: the Rothschilds are kind of like this sort of like 622 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: Boogieyman for conspiracy theorists, and I don't I don't truck 623 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: with it. I kind of get annoyed whenever I see 624 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: it come across my my ex feed or whatever. But 625 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: just you know, come at me, tell us, tell Zeth 626 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: and I why the Rothschilds are the boogieyman and why 627 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: they are connected to the eyes wide shut. Take that, 628 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: Stanley Kubrick had. I want to know what the connection is, 629 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: and I want to be lazy about it. I don't 630 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to do any of the research myself 631 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: because I don't care that much. But I'm open to 632 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: be convinced. So listeners, let Zeth and I know. Okay, 633 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: give us your best, give us your best Rothschild Stanley 634 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: Kubrick takes. 635 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: I love that, love that, and how do they do that? 636 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: We should tell him how to do it? Six months 637 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: seven nine six six six three eight. 638 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's there's that. There's also an email address. 639 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: There is disgrace lamdpod at gmail dot com. What else? 640 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: There's social media at disgrace lamb pod wherever you socialize online. 641 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so get at us and let us know 642 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: your favorite Kubrick Rothschild takes all right. 643 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: Recommendation Number two Movies is a film from nineteen sixty one. 644 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: The Misfits, directed by John Houston, starring Clark Gable, Maril Monroe, 645 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: and Montgomery Cliff. Notably the final film for both Marilyn 646 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Monroe and Clark Gable. Clark Gable died like a few 647 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: weeks after they finished shooting it, so he wasn't there 648 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: when this premiered. This was a famously troubled production. They 649 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: see shooting halfway through, which John Houston blamed on Marilyn 650 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: Monroe's mental health, but while she was in the hospital 651 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: because John Houston basically put her there. John Houston's gambling 652 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: away the film's budget and the casino's wild And if 653 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: you haven't heard that story, we have an entire episode 654 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: on it, the Misfits right here in the Hollywood Land Feed. 655 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: Just go search that up and you could hear all 656 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: about these crazy stories. 657 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. What's the brusque connection? Clark Gable died in 658 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: a fight with Bruce Lee afterward? 659 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: Is that is a yeah? 660 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Clark Gable kicked Bruce Lee's ass the first 661 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: time and then Bruceley wanted a rematch. Now, the connection 662 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: here is that Clark Gable died before the movie came out. 663 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: He's a possumous. Yeah, I got you, Yeah, you got you, 664 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: got you. 665 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: And then number three, I'm I'm gonna break my own 666 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: rule that I set up here because well, first of all, 667 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: I got to give it up for John, because I've 668 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: always said Kazel, but I guess it's Kazol, John Kazzal, 669 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: the actor Baily. 670 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: I guess. 671 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: So. 672 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 673 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: I looked this up earlier, and this is the pronunciation 674 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: I got from a trailer about a documentary about him 675 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: that came out on HBO years ago. 676 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: I've seen that documentary and I still I still call 677 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: him John Kazel. This is gonna be one of those. 678 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: He's from Revilla, so you can say it however you want. 679 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: Is he from Revere or is he from Medford? 680 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: I thought he was from Revere. 681 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: He's buried in Medford. I'm pretty sure he's buried in Medford, 682 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: which makes sense. You could be from Revere and be 683 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: very buried in Medford. This is going to be one 684 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: of those names. Then if it's really Kazol not Kazel, 685 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: it's going to take me the rest of my life 686 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: to figure out how to get at this right. It's 687 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: like Josh, It's like Josh Homie home Ay Josh Home. 688 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: I've been pronouncing it wrong for so long I can't 689 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: do it right anymore. And now I don't even know. 690 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: Now I'm confused. I just confused, ifuge yourself. Yes, all 691 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 3: apologies to the great John Cassol. 692 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm breaking my rule here because his final 693 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: film was The Deer Hunter, which was released after he 694 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: died of lung cancer in nineteen seventy eight. But that's 695 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: not the movie I'm going to recommend because I'm not 696 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: a big Deer Hunter person. And I know, I know 697 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot. 698 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: Of people are into this movie. They're good actress in it, 699 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 2: I've heard, but it's just not my thing. What it's 700 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: not my fuck? 701 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: Are you talking about? For another time? 702 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to watch the Russian rule that guys 703 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: almost blow their brains out. 704 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 705 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: I just the scene the wedding, the Catholic, the Polish 706 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 3: Catholic wedding reception is like I grew up in that hall, 707 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: like literally in the in the Polish American veterans called 708 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: the pav in Clinton, Massachusetts. That movie hits for me 709 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: on so many, so many, so many levels. But I 710 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: you know, go on, go on, all right? 711 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna disappoint Jake some Moore, and I'm gonna 712 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: recommend some of John Cazol's other movies. Dog Day Afternoon 713 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: and The Conversation, two of the greatest films from one 714 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: of the greatest decades in Hollywood. And I just want 715 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: to mention that John Kazol is at the center of 716 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: one of my favorite pieces of Hollywood trivia, which is 717 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: that he started only five movies in his lifetime, The Godfather, 718 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: The Conversation, The Godfather Part two, Dog Day Afternoon, and 719 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: The Deer Hunter, and all five of those were nominated 720 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: for Best Picture at the Oscars, which begs the question, 721 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: is he the only actor who has that distinction, the 722 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: only actor who's every movie they've been in was nominated 723 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: for Best Picture? 724 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: Well more importantly, he was dating Meryl Streep at the time, 725 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: like peak Meryl Streep Beauty era as well, so he 726 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: should have won an award for that alone. I don't 727 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: know's I don't know the answer to your question. I 728 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: have to think he's the only one correct. 729 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: I see, I don't know the answery to this. So 730 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: once again, Hollywoodland listeners were asking you to let us 731 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: know do any of you know of any other actor 732 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: who can compete with this distinction that John Cazal had. 733 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: All movies that he started were nominated for Best Picture. 734 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: Let us know. 735 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: Let us know about your recommendations, Bruce Lee or Jason 736 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: or otherwise. Again, that number is six one seven nine 737 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight call us text us 738 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: Jake Brother. 739 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: The clock is ticking. 740 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: I know you've got places to go, people to see, meatball, 741 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: subs to eat. 742 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: You know, dude, I found this great sandwich shop down here, 743 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: and this is a problem. You can't in Florida. You 744 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: cannot get good subs, because really you can't. And I 745 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: talked to this guy, this ex cop at this there's 746 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: only two. I've only found two shops where we can 747 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: get a normal grinder, like a new Wingland sub. I've 748 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: only found two, and it's taken me two years to 749 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 3: do this. And this X cop works in one of them. 750 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: He's from Rhode Island, and he told me the reason 751 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: that you can't get the subs down here is because 752 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: the water is too warm. And it's true, there's basically 753 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: no cold water down here. You put the shower on 754 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: and it starts at like sixty degrees and so anyways, 755 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 3: I did find I found another sub, another Italian restaurant 756 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: that makes their own bread, and I heard they actually 757 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: they treat the water in a way that makes it work. 758 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 3: And thus I'm on this. I'm on this. I was 759 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 3: on this meatball sub kick, and now I can't stop 760 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: thinking about it every time I record with you, because 761 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: the first day we did it, I had that meatball sub. 762 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know I'm gaining. I've gained about twenty 763 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: pounds since we started the rat Party. 764 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: All right, hey, listen, it's been uh, it's been great 765 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: hanging with you here in the Rap Party, and I 766 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: will talk. 767 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: To you next week. 768 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 3: You got it homeie later on? 769 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: All right, man, everybody else, don't move a muscle because 770 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: I will be right back with more and the flashiest 771 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: of flashes. What's up, guys, We are back and once 772 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: again we're alone, just you and me. What you're doing later? 773 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: Seeing any good movies, watch many good television shows. Don't 774 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: leave me in the dark. Okay, let me know, not 775 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: to be a hypocrite or anything, but it's time for 776 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: me to leave you. But I will be back here 777 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: next week as always on Wednesday, to continue this ongoing 778 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: conversation between all of us and until then, a couple 779 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: of things you got to remember. Number one available right 780 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: now in your Hollywood Land feed Our episode on Bruce Lee. 781 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: Number two coming next week on Monday, Our episode on 782 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: John Holmes and the Wonderland Murders. Number three. Do you 783 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: listen to Disgraceland, Jake's other show made four and about 784 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: rock and roll, animals, music and true crime pod with 785 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: wild stories about Ted Bundy and Blondie's Debbie Harry, about 786 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: the Knightstalker, and a c d C about the Go 787 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: Gos and the serial killer Capital of the World. If 788 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: you're not, you are missing out, So just go search 789 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: up Disgraceland wherever you get podcasts and start listening. Number four, 790 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: in honor of this week's episode, me reading you the 791 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: list of the top movies from the summer of nineteen 792 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: seventy three when Bruce Lee died at the age of 793 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: thirty two. Scarecrow directed by Jerry Shatsburg, Live and Let 794 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: Die directed by Guy Hamilton, Peter Coffee directed by Jack 795 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: Scarecrow directed by Robert Paper Jerry directed by Peter Bogdanovitch directed. 796 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: Enter the Drag directed by God directed by Robert Close 797 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: directed by Lady Kumfu Jack directed by Kwang Pai Scarecrow, 798 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: The Shanghai Killers serial directed by Wang Tender To Live 799 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: and Let Die directly Live and Let Dives directed by 800 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: Guys Hansel Talking. 801 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: Quit talking and start mixing. 802 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: Cut it.