Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's you.
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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast, one of the
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Speaker 1: all in again with me your host, Scott Patterson. I
Speaker 1: am joined by the illustrious Jenna USh Qwitz. Hello, Oh Jenna,
Speaker 1: it's been a long time, not really why I saw
Speaker 1: you in Vegas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was like I think twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you in Vegas at the big concert right.
Speaker 1: I heard Radio Music Festival. We did a movie together.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that later. But it's great to see you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3: Good to see you. I'm so happy to be here,
Speaker 3: very excited.
Speaker 1: It's it's uh and you know Jackie are one of
Speaker 1: our producers and she produced your podcast at one point.
Speaker 4: That's right. It's like full circle. There's a lot of like,
Speaker 4: uh close, the circle is.
Speaker 1: Small here, it really really is. I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna let everybody know who's been living under
Speaker 1: a rock. Who you are? Okay, the very talented Jenna.
Speaker 1: You know not only is Gilmore Girls super fan, but
Speaker 1: also as teeny Cohen Chang from Glee, a two time
Speaker 1: Tony Award winning producer, Broadway star, former co worker of mine,
Speaker 1: I said, we're going to get into that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Jenna's worked on Acclaim productions like Once on This Island,
Speaker 1: The Inheritance, and Waitress. She also co hosts a hit
Speaker 1: iHeart podcast called and That's What You Really Miss with
Speaker 1: Kevin McHale and where They Live Relive all Things Glee.
Speaker 1: We're excited to have her here at Jenna, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Not bad, right, I didn't write it.
Speaker 3: Take it?
Speaker 1: Take it? Yeah. Man, how you doing. You've got two kids?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm in the thick of it right now.
Speaker 3: But I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 4: I'm I've got a three and a half month old,
Speaker 4: so we are just out of that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the really really hard phase.
Speaker 4: Although it wasn't that hard, but I'm with an almost
Speaker 4: three year old, which is a really really hard phase.
Speaker 1: It is, right, the ts in the thing and the
Speaker 1: but but they get so cute at four and five
Speaker 1: and six.
Speaker 3: Love it.
Speaker 4: I love it, even when it's hard. It's just like,
Speaker 4: you know, she's so cute.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm happy to be here. You got me to
Speaker 4: watch some more Gilmore Girls again. It's like an excuse
Speaker 4: I have to work. I have to watch Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: You know it's not bad. Season one, episode seventeen, the
Speaker 1: third Laurela I, Oh my god, Rory's great grandmother offers
Speaker 1: Laurela a trust fund for Rory's education, causing Emily to
Speaker 1: fear losing her new found relationship with them. Cattleman directed
Speaker 1: Amy Sherman.
Speaker 3: Palladino wrote it, sadly, you're not in this one.
Speaker 1: I'm not in it?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: How many episodes were you not in?
Speaker 1: This is the only one?
Speaker 3: Shut up?
Speaker 1: This is the one. Yes, yes, I was one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty three. I thought I was in all of them.
Speaker 1: That I realized after watching this, I'm not in this.
Speaker 3: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: You don't even feel my presence in it at all.
Speaker 1: There's no coffee, there's no diner.
Speaker 3: They don't go. They don't go there at all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: their coffee.
Speaker 4: I did watch the previous episode though, which you were in,
Speaker 4: so I didn't watch that one.
Speaker 1: Was that a good That was a good one? In
Speaker 1: my shirt?
Speaker 3: Drakout A part two? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You had gotten back with uh? Was it Rachel, right, Rachel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you were around helping uh Rory who has gotten
Speaker 4: broken up with Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's try to get into a fight with Dean.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Very funny, very good. This is a good comedy.
Speaker 1: Very good stuff. Good stuff, good stuff. All right, So
Speaker 1: this one we got tricks, right, we got we got
Speaker 1: Richard's mom coming in from London to you know, distribute
Speaker 1: funds to people or whatever she's doing there, because she
Speaker 1: never comes to the USA, they always go visit her.
Speaker 1: What are you doing with this epithet?
Speaker 4: I mean, Tricks versus Marion Ross is like such a
Speaker 4: meeting genius. Everybody is so good. I haven't watched the
Speaker 4: show in quite a bit of time, so to go back,
Speaker 4: I was so glad you were like so early back
Speaker 4: in the process of season one again, because it's so fresh,
Speaker 4: and it's so easy to fall back into the world
Speaker 4: with everybody so quickly, like to click in, because it's
Speaker 4: so funny, so witty. The characters are all just so
Speaker 4: well developed so early on.
Speaker 3: You know who everybody is, what their job is like.
Speaker 4: The writing, it's like it's heartfelt, it's there's comedy, there's
Speaker 4: you know, pop culture references like it's Amy Sherman at
Speaker 4: her best, and I just I was like, do I
Speaker 4: need to rewatch this whole thing again with you guys
Speaker 4: because it's so so good.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 1: It's great, right, Yeah, it really is, Like, especially this
Speaker 1: first season, you can see this sort of the growth
Speaker 1: of the and it's just like it doesn't take them
Speaker 1: long to really start nail on every episode. I mean
Speaker 1: you're like you're like one or two episodes in and
Speaker 1: then all of a.
Speaker 4: Sudden, it just you know, when did it hit like
Speaker 4: two thousand and like, did it hit like very early
Speaker 4: like pilot first episodes? Did it like take off? Or
Speaker 4: did it was it a slower burn because like for Glee,
Speaker 4: like we it took a few episodes for us to
Speaker 4: really kind of like get our viewership up and like
Speaker 4: for it to really kind of hit.
Speaker 3: Do you remember, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I know the reviews were like all gushy
Speaker 1: and Variety and Hollywood reporters, so we were like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: oh good, great. But yeah, I think first c W,
Speaker 1: I think the numbers were really strong initially in the
Speaker 1: first couple of years.
Speaker 6: Totally, but we kind of peaked what season four or five, wow,
Speaker 6: and then we got up that we got way up
Speaker 6: there for CW numbers, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was yeah, but it was consistently good
Speaker 1: throughout and then yeah, you know, I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like, do you feel like your character
Speaker 4: is like consistent throughout and the arc? Like, were you
Speaker 4: happy with your storylines along the way?
Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, I I really still feel I mean
Speaker 1: and at the time, I felt very lucky to fill
Speaker 1: those shoes because you know, it's all in in what
Speaker 1: the writing, right, So so I just think I get
Speaker 1: to be in this situation today. Yeah, I get to
Speaker 1: be portrayed this way. This character is is totally I
Speaker 1: mean such as such an honorable dude, and and you know,
Speaker 1: I got to do that, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is really great. They're really setting me up to be,
Speaker 1: you know, well thought of as a character, and I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Yeah yeah, I mean, what a what
Speaker 1: a selfless guy? Just so you know, it's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, it really, it really truly is. And and
Speaker 1: I'm forever indebted to Amy but for forgiving me this,
Speaker 1: you know, because she she was the ultimate decision maker, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, she fought for every one of us. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean at that time, right two thousand, movie
Speaker 1: stars were starting to spill over into TV totally, and
Speaker 1: you know, Warner Brothers wanted.
Speaker 3: Names, stars, stars, stars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and in every role they read the script,
Speaker 1: they're no, there, there are no dummies over there. They
Speaker 1: saw the quality of stuff. They probably thought they go
Speaker 1: to CIA and just package the help. Yeah, totally stack
Speaker 1: it with stars, let's get in. She fought for every
Speaker 1: one of us. She's like, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the people that I envision and who was perfect,
Speaker 1: perfect fit for these roles the way I see it,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful.
Speaker 4: I mean, her vision is so clear in her writing
Speaker 4: and her her creation, and like, I'm so glad they did.
Speaker 4: She pushed for that because it feels like this small
Speaker 4: town that is being built and created, Like if you
Speaker 4: throw all those stars in there, it's like too familiar
Speaker 4: in a way and it's not so small town and
Speaker 4: there's you lose that charm and the quaintness of.
Speaker 1: It all right, they bring that bagaggage that you can't.
Speaker 3: Get away from totally totally.
Speaker 1: It's like an independent film. Yeah, well of unknowns and
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, that's a really great film. Who are
Speaker 1: these actors?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly, Like you're discovering everything altogether.
Speaker 1: You know that it's so good. We got so we got
Speaker 1: so luck.
Speaker 3: So lucky, what a great cast.
Speaker 4: Everybody is so so talented, And like I'm curious to
Speaker 4: hear about your experience with like her writing, like it's
Speaker 4: so beautiful. Like Ryan Murphy's stuff too, like falls off
Speaker 4: the tongue. It seems very intricate and difficult, but it
Speaker 4: falls off the tongue. You don't have to do a
Speaker 4: lot with it. It just kind of you just go and
Speaker 4: it does the work for itself. It speaks for itself.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like that with Amy's stuff?
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. It's and I always compared
Speaker 1: it to Shakespeare because that's what Shakespeare does. You just
Speaker 1: learn your stuff and that dialogue will take you where
Speaker 1: you need to go. Emotionally easy to remember because there's
Speaker 1: like a real emotional logic to it. And with Amy's work,
Speaker 1: all you have to do really, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: very simple formula. You get to work. You know, George
Speaker 1: comes to your trailer, your run lines, until your bulletproof
Speaker 1: if you haven't already done it at home, which a
Speaker 1: lot of times you don't have time to do it,
Speaker 1: becau just have time to eat, shower, go to bed
Speaker 1: and wake it right. Yeah. So then you get there
Speaker 1: and you do a you know, a fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: minute run with George and you got your stuff. Wow,
Speaker 1: and then you just go in and do it and
Speaker 1: you know the blocking is that's the fun part, right.
Speaker 1: I love the rehearsal process. Sure, but yeah, man, that
Speaker 1: those words. They never let you down. They never let
Speaker 1: you down.
Speaker 4: Oh god, you're right. They have lift you. They're so
Speaker 4: good and it's so the pace is so good. Everybody
Speaker 4: like clicks in so well, and like it's such a
Speaker 4: familiar pace like that you when you turn on the show,
Speaker 4: you know where you're going.
Speaker 3: You're just like on the ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how Lauren did it. That was
Speaker 1: the heaviest lift of all heavy lifts. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there have been, you know, rolls prior don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what they are, but I don't know that
Speaker 1: anybody had. You know, there's massive chunks of dialogue, okay
Speaker 1: in every scene at that pig.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, it is.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it made all of her jobs after that,
Speaker 4: very right, confusing, right, although she did have you know
Speaker 4: enough other things, like she brought that piece with her
Speaker 4: a little bit. So I love it, like I'm a
Speaker 4: fan of hers. I love watching her work because like
Speaker 4: she's so good at that thing. But yeah, man, oh man,
Speaker 4: that is just like a mental load to carry.
Speaker 3: The two of them too. They really just like ping
Speaker 3: pong balls. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Weren't they just perfect? Wasn't alexis just perfect for that role?
Speaker 4: She is unreal, Like she wears her heart on her sleeve.
Speaker 4: She's everything you want to see from a sixteen year
Speaker 4: old going through this with her best friend and her mom.
Speaker 3: And it's so nuanced, it's so dynamic.
Speaker 4: It's like, I, I you just clean.
Speaker 3: She's like magnetic. I just clicking with her. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 3: I believe everything you're saying.
Speaker 4: It's fluid, it's open, it's vulnerable, like perfect, perfect casting.
Speaker 4: You couldn't have done better with the two of them.
Speaker 1: Vulnerable. The vulnerability is also charts with her magic. You
Speaker 1: just want to You just want to put her in
Speaker 1: your pocket and take care of me.
Speaker 4: Like if you burst into tears, it'd be okay next
Speaker 4: to her, Like you know, like I just I feel
Speaker 4: so safe with her and with them.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: It's so great, all right. So we're gonna start off
Speaker 1: at a Friday night dinner. So you know, Richard, Richard
Speaker 1: really fills the space, doesn't He comes in and he
Speaker 1: really commands to space. So Emily's in a tizzy about
Speaker 1: Richard's mom come to town. Rory wants to know more
Speaker 1: about her great grandmother, and we learned that. We learned
Speaker 1: that Richard's father is dead obviously, I mean, you know
Speaker 1: he is. What do you think Richard is in the sixties.
Speaker 1: He's in the sixties, yeah, at least so, I mean,
Speaker 1: if he had a if his father was very young
Speaker 1: when he had him, he could still be alive. But
Speaker 1: we just assumed that he was all right. Uh So,
Speaker 1: Tricksy's coming to town. Emily is not happy about it.
Speaker 1: They go down into the storege they go into the basement.
Speaker 1: Lorl I goes down in basement and finds Emily hysterical.
Speaker 1: We don't We've never seen her this way.
Speaker 3: Kelly Bishop is excellent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, a master.
Speaker 4: To watch her unhinged like that too, is so fun.
Speaker 4: It must have been very fun for her to play
Speaker 4: the opposite of the way that she normally the snarky
Speaker 4: kind of you know, ma tough, strict like elite mom,
Speaker 4: you know, well spoken, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: she's just coming undone.
Speaker 3: It was really fun to watch her do that.
Speaker 1: You know. Kelly was always so god, what's there's so
Speaker 1: many words. Elegant, Uh, she never seen stressed. Yes, she
Speaker 1: would just sort of walk on set and with a
Speaker 1: smile and you know, talk to everybody and let's go
Speaker 1: do the scene. And then she'd shift gears right before
Speaker 1: your eyes and bob ohm, there was Emily. And then
Speaker 1: when it was done, she would shift back to her
Speaker 1: elegant self and chokes and stories and she was a delight.
Speaker 1: She was just such a pro. She she really really
Speaker 1: Lauren and and Kelly really established what that set was,
Speaker 1: which is completely professional and the level of work obviously.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was it was. It was really exciting
Speaker 1: to come to work every day because you knew you
Speaker 1: were going to be with a players and nobody was
Speaker 1: going to let you down.
Speaker 3: Everybody like showed up prepared.
Speaker 1: You have to, right, well, there was no way you
Speaker 1: could survive.
Speaker 3: No, you couldn't.
Speaker 4: Get Oh yeah, the people that did that.
Speaker 1: Boy, they had long days. It was bad for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's rough. And and you know, we had a co
Speaker 1: star that came on once and wasn't prepared and and
Speaker 1: she had a bunch of scenes to do, and I
Speaker 1: just told her, I said, man, you know, I did
Speaker 1: I feel for you, right, I know you had a situation.
Speaker 1: I get it, but you're you're you're in the mouth
Speaker 1: of the lion now and it's going to be a
Speaker 1: long day. And it was.
Speaker 3: For everybody, right, it was.
Speaker 1: No, it was and great actress and all that. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but it's like, wow, this show will
Speaker 1: burn you down. And we had I remember we had
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, with a Broadway resume up the wazoo, right,
Speaker 1: he comes on and I think he thought he was
Speaker 1: prepared and they say action and he just go you know,
Speaker 1: he'd stare at me and he Oh my god, they
Speaker 1: really wanted this. I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 5: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. People people indd interesting.
Speaker 4: It is hard because on our show too, the pace
Speaker 4: is really fast. And they used to say, if you
Speaker 4: don't speak that fast, your stuff will get cut because
Speaker 4: there's too much to put in.
Speaker 3: So our thing was not the face of the writing.
Speaker 3: I mean it was. But also we learned like if
Speaker 3: you don't talk really fast, you're getting cut.
Speaker 1: Oh that's just like right down to it. Man, Oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 4: Oh that's funny. But that it is true. There's there's
Speaker 4: a certain skill and tone.
Speaker 3: And uh way that you that your show was presented
Speaker 3: and written.
Speaker 4: And if you can't keep up, it's like the people
Speaker 4: aren't on that on the sprint and you're in a
Speaker 4: marathon and you're like, wait a second, but it seems
Speaker 4: like everybody, all of your you know, your main people
Speaker 4: just like show the f up all the time because
Speaker 4: God deliver.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 1: It's there's just no other way to survive. It's like
Speaker 1: going into the Roman colisseum man, it's like I'm ready
Speaker 1: to die. Let's go, you know, truly all right, So
Speaker 1: now now we're at now we're at Chilton, hmm, and
Speaker 1: we get to deal with uh, we get to deal
Speaker 1: with Paris and all of her stuff. So there, you know, Tristan.
Speaker 1: Tristan asked her out because Rory said, you know, she
Speaker 1: likes you. What do you think you know? And you know,
Speaker 1: he he, he doesn't have much of a thought process.
Speaker 1: So he goes, okay, oh, Chad, so so they uh
Speaker 1: so now we see we we knew what and and
Speaker 1: Liza does a beautiful job. She comes back after her
Speaker 1: little meeting in the hallway with Tristan and she's a
Speaker 1: little little glowy so cute. Yeah he asked me out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's just like like right in front of me. It's
Speaker 1: just like on the other side of the room. It's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do we do? What do you do? For?
Speaker 3: How stiff of a character?
Speaker 4: They they write Paris like for how stiff and kind
Speaker 4: of written and you know, geeky and that that she's written.
Speaker 4: Liza does such a beautiful job and making her so human,
Speaker 4: Like I'm just I'm I love Paris. I love Paris
Speaker 4: and Rory. I love seeing Paris' storyline here. It's so
Speaker 4: nice to see lies I have like an a storyline
Speaker 4: with you know, Tristan and going on her date and
Speaker 4: not really knowing and being kind of out of a
Speaker 4: fish out of water in her and her out of
Speaker 4: her comfort zone.
Speaker 3: Like I was.
Speaker 4: I was just like so charmed by her when you're
Speaker 4: not really supposed to be charmed by Paris, you know, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they put her in a situation that rehabilitates her
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. You know, it's like she's, Oh, this is
Speaker 1: what she's missing. She's missing the familial love and the warmth,
Speaker 1: and she's not getting that. She's extremely insecure, and you
Speaker 1: just feel for.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, and helping her it's so cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And Rory being mature enough to know that
Speaker 1: and rise above it and try to help her. That's
Speaker 1: really nice. It's nice to see.
Speaker 3: Did that costs up Blanca reference to Louie. I think
Speaker 3: this is the beginning of beautiful.
Speaker 1: So good? Okay, Amy, right, she just throws him down.
Speaker 3: They don't stop.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Why do you think
Speaker 1: they sat next to each other on the in the
Speaker 1: first place, knowing what occurred at the party, Tristan and Rory.
Speaker 4: I think Tristan sat next to Rory.
Speaker 3: I think Tristan had to sit in himself next to.
Speaker 1: Rory, and he's always liked her always.
Speaker 3: It's very clear everybody likes Rory.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I thank you something? A personal question? Would
Speaker 1: you work on a school project over the weekend? Have you?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember working on a school project
Speaker 3: over Louis I don't think maybe if.
Speaker 4: I went to Chilton and the stakes where we're higher
Speaker 4: and people were paying for my my you know, education,
Speaker 4: then maybe, but I don't know, I don't think.
Speaker 1: So, how do you think Paris? You know, Paris has
Speaker 1: real radar. How do you think she immediately recognizes the
Speaker 1: tension between Rory and Paris, you know, because they kissed
Speaker 1: and then they saw each other the next you know.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, that's a good question. She's like she
Speaker 3: doesn't like miss anything. She's so smart.
Speaker 4: She's just a little socially inept when it comes to
Speaker 4: her peers, and if it doesn't include academia, you know,
Speaker 4: but I don't think she misses anything.
Speaker 1: She's like a social shark. She just senses everything right,
Speaker 1: Like if there's in the water, she's gonna go right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Eliza is so good with the looks too, Like it's
Speaker 4: just she's you're like, oh my god, I can't get
Speaker 4: anything by you. But and just and like so sharp
Speaker 4: and like almost to the point where she doesn't have
Speaker 4: she she has no filter. She can't stop herself when
Speaker 4: she has to say something. You know, there's something about
Speaker 4: it that's like, of course you need that to call
Speaker 4: people out on their stuff.
Speaker 3: I love her, I really, I really love her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just she's molded being inappropriate into an art form.
Speaker 1: It's actually appealing somehow.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Now we're at the Independence in Laurenlin
Speaker 1: and Michelle are arguing at the front desk over a reservation,
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you that desktop mac is ancient
Speaker 1: either way.
Speaker 4: You know, there's not a lot of stuff that like
Speaker 4: ages your Guys show is as much, but like sometimes
Speaker 4: you think, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Wow, there are a couple. There's a couple those a couple
Speaker 1: of students where like, oh that didn't Emily calls Laurel
Speaker 1: I at work and ask her for the hat rack back,
Speaker 1: which is really funny. I gotta lug that thing. It's huge,
Speaker 1: It's massive, and it looks really heavy. It looks like
Speaker 1: it's all made of brass or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So Emily's in a tissy uh Laura I and Michelle
Speaker 1: have that great opening dialogue back and forth, and that
Speaker 1: was just like a little aside before she gets into
Speaker 1: the phone call. I mean, I mean, Amy really writes
Speaker 1: you like almost a full meal between these two. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's just side stuff for entertainment purposes to get
Speaker 1: us into the phone call. It's it's wild and that's
Speaker 1: so good. And then it was like to have the
Speaker 1: regift conversation Laurela. I can't get over the fact that
Speaker 1: she received secondhand gift from her own mother. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't open the box, so.
Speaker 3: We didn't really use it, use it, honestly.
Speaker 4: There are some things that I you just you have
Speaker 4: to keep around and then you just have to pull
Speaker 4: out when that person shows.
Speaker 3: Oh really, I've been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Rory in trist in talk, she swears
Speaker 1: to him that she didn't cry because of the kiss
Speaker 1: and that it was quite nice. And then Tristan says
Speaker 1: he's gonna swear off girls for a while, and they,
Speaker 1: you know, they have a pretty good banter going back
Speaker 1: and forth, and she said, like really, and she says, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a certain type of girl you should swear off.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Rory was trying to tell Tristan
Speaker 1: that she was available in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 1: because she's a high quality girl. She thinks of herself
Speaker 1: as a high quality girl.
Speaker 4: I think she was going to prepare us. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think she was trying to just get uh huh. And
Speaker 4: I genuinely think it was out of the goodness of
Speaker 4: her heart. I don't think she was trying to divert
Speaker 4: nor do I think that she knew that Tristan had
Speaker 4: feelings for her at that point. So I think, honestly,
Speaker 4: she's just like the good thing about Rory is there's
Speaker 4: this she's so so smart, but there is like an
Speaker 4: innocence to her that she doesn't quite always know who's
Speaker 4: onto her who's not. Like it's just like this very
Speaker 4: like sweet green innocence that I think Loss does really well.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: I think it was just a genuine gesture at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, now we meet Tricks, all right, Laurrela is
Speaker 1: pretty anxious to get to the dinner. Rory is shocked
Speaker 1: at her behavior. Rory and Laurel shove that huge hat
Speaker 1: rack in the car and bring it to dinner.
Speaker 3: It's humongous.
Speaker 1: Emily is very particular about the placement and the look
Speaker 1: of the at rack once it gets inside. And then
Speaker 1: we find out that Richard's pet name for his own
Speaker 1: mother is Tricks. Emily calls Tricks mom, Laurel I calls
Speaker 1: her grand Uh. Emily has put to work as Tricks
Speaker 1: talks to Laurel I and Rory Trix keep sending her
Speaker 1: off to get nuts or get is this is cheese?
Speaker 1: You want me to eat this cheese? Is this is
Speaker 1: what it is? You know? I mean, wow, what are
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 3: Really great?
Speaker 1: Marian, Yeah, so good. And you know we find out
Speaker 1: the tricks. It's very direct. She admires Laureli's hard work.
Speaker 1: She thinks hard work is aportman. All right, So here's
Speaker 1: a question. Laura's anxiety about seeing her own mother. Does
Speaker 1: this show her insecurities about living up to her mother's expectations?
Speaker 1: M this scene, well, just overall Laurel I and her
Speaker 1: own mom. Do you think Laura cares anymore about living
Speaker 1: up to anybody's expectations?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
Speaker 4: I think she's just reveling in this, in this enjoyment
Speaker 4: of of of Emily unhinged. Right now, She's finally like, ha,
Speaker 4: the t tables have turned. I've got you. You're truly unhinged,
Speaker 4: worried about like the location of a hat rack. She's
Speaker 4: you know, bringing nuts and cheese and things, and it's
Speaker 4: just so concerned and I think it's it's such an
Speaker 4: insight into Laura Lai and Emily's relationship that she doesn't
Speaker 4: quite ever see her in this in this light, and
Speaker 4: so to see for Laura, I to see her this way,
Speaker 4: and Rory having to be the adult and saying be
Speaker 4: nice to her.
Speaker 3: You know, are you enjoying this? Yes, she is right,
Speaker 3: she is all right.
Speaker 1: So Tricks is upset because Rory wants to go to Harvard,
Speaker 1: and she says, well, Richard and his father were Yale
Speaker 1: met And so that narrative is placed right there, smack
Speaker 1: dab in the middle of the dinner table. Trix wonders
Speaker 1: how the manager of an inn could pay for such
Speaker 1: a luxury as Chiltern. And then now we find out,
Speaker 1: Tricks finds out the whole arrangement Friday night dinners, and
Speaker 1: her the wheels start turning in her head. So Trick's reaction,
Speaker 1: how does this reflect uh general generational expectations or class divides? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, you know that it offers that up on
Speaker 1: a platter. Weekend project. Rory brings the group donuts and coffee.
Speaker 1: This is this is your weekend homework that pair has
Speaker 1: insisted upon Tristan pulls Paris outside to talk to her. Right,
Speaker 1: that's when she asked her out on the date. The
Speaker 1: girls say he asked her out because someone else must
Speaker 1: have bailed twenty four hours earlier.
Speaker 4: That was nice of them, These girls, ma'am through it all.
Speaker 1: Is it, Louise? It's just like lying down on the
Speaker 1: two tables since like Saturday morning, what in the hell
Speaker 1: are we doing?
Speaker 3: Bring coffee?
Speaker 1: Right, They're immediately questioning why Tristan would even ask her
Speaker 1: out because they aren't each other's types. And then you know,
Speaker 1: everybody starts giving Paris tips about the date, which is
Speaker 1: which is nice? All right? So so Rory bringing the
Speaker 1: coffee and donates. You know, it's kind of a nurturing thing.
Speaker 1: She's she wants this to work. She's she wants you know,
Speaker 1: she's the person that is going to bring the fuel.
Speaker 4: That's the thing about Rory and Paris, I think is
Speaker 4: like Paris can be could be written like unlikable.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a she's having them show up on
Speaker 3: a Saturday.
Speaker 4: She's rigid, she's you know, there's a lot about her
Speaker 4: that it could be hard to like write. But Rory
Speaker 4: supporting Paris in this and helping her and having Tristan
Speaker 4: ask her out. Like this relationship is being kind of fostered,
Speaker 4: which is to be in their friendship.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like Paris has a ton of friends.
Speaker 4: So for Rory to you know, kind of reach out
Speaker 4: and be there for her, I think is very sweet.
Speaker 4: And we'll see later obviously too, where Paris doesn't know
Speaker 4: really where to turn.
Speaker 1: For She's going to make the weekend study hall thing
Speaker 1: work with her coffee, don't She's going to set Paris
Speaker 1: up on a date the whole I mean, being a
Speaker 1: great friend, what a great wingman to have, right, That's right?
Speaker 1: All right? Now, now we're we're in a Loreleizes house,
Speaker 1: loyalized late for dinner, okay, because she's going She's going
Speaker 1: to Friday night dinner and Rory is not. Is she
Speaker 1: to study? She's got study. So Roy sits there and
Speaker 1: eats chocolate cake in the kitchen and does her homework.
Speaker 1: And Paris shows up at the Gilmore House because she's
Speaker 1: insisting that she doesn't have much in the way of
Speaker 1: wardrobe and she wants Rory to help pick her out
Speaker 1: an outfit for her big date with with Tristan and
Speaker 1: Rory just throws her in some alauralized stuff, which is
Speaker 1: kind of funny.
Speaker 4: That's just where this magically she looks great in it,
Speaker 4: right right, it.
Speaker 1: Fits her perfectly.
Speaker 4: Paris walking through the door is so great, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: you have the cute little top that I don't really
Speaker 4: care about, but now I need the cute little top
Speaker 4: and I need the lipstick with the color in it
Speaker 4: versus just the tapstick, and like it's just it's really sweet,
Speaker 4: it's really relatable. I think the thing about like Your
Speaker 4: Guys show is like there's something for everybody. There's something
Speaker 4: for the mom who has the kid, and then there's
Speaker 4: something for the teens who are going through these real
Speaker 4: experiences where they're going on their first date. They don't
Speaker 4: know what to wear, they don't know how to act,
Speaker 4: they don't know what to talk about.
Speaker 3: So it's just really sweet.
Speaker 4: And then for Paris and Rory to talk about Dean
Speaker 4: and her kind of say I'm really sorry, do you
Speaker 4: miss him?
Speaker 3: And to see Rory have that vulnerable moment.
Speaker 4: Where she's like, yeah, I miss him a lot, just
Speaker 4: like plucks at your heartstrings.
Speaker 3: It's so sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then the note cards pop out and
Speaker 1: Rory sees, what are these in Paris? Well, there are
Speaker 1: just some notes for the date in case we get
Speaker 1: tongue tied and all that. She goes, what about you?
Speaker 1: So you want to ask them about the Spanish inquisition?
Speaker 1: She's not romantic, not really, no, so we don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about that.
Speaker 3: Next to the index cards.
Speaker 1: So now we're at another dinner with Tricks. Okay, Tricks
Speaker 1: brought Rabbit in dry Ice for dinner, all the way
Speaker 1: from London, and then trist ask Laura I to walk
Speaker 1: with her, asking her if she borrowed money from her
Speaker 1: parents for Rory's school. That's when Tricks finds out and
Speaker 1: Emily she doesn't mind loaning Laura I the money, and
Speaker 1: Tricks just says, I do not care what you mind.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like just lowering the boom on
Speaker 1: her every chance she gets totally. And then Tricks announces
Speaker 1: that she has a trust fund set up for Rory
Speaker 1: and is willing to give her access now to pay
Speaker 1: so pay for Chiltern on her own. And of course
Speaker 1: this is an immediate challenge to Emily's grip on these two,
Speaker 1: and Uh acts accordingly. So Emily says Rory won't need
Speaker 1: her anymore once she gets the money. Hmm, all right,
Speaker 1: and then Laura I comes home too. Seriously, Well, this
Speaker 1: is a this is a really big beat in this
Speaker 1: this piece right here. Yeah, now we see why this
Speaker 1: is an unexpected totally, this is an unexpected event in
Speaker 1: Emily's life, and it just but I thought she showed
Speaker 1: a real This is where we see Emily really vulnerable,
Speaker 1: really terrified that she's going to lose her daughter again. Yes,
Speaker 1: because as I don't know, as diabolical as Emily is
Speaker 1: and seems right, I mean, she's doing it for a
Speaker 1: reason because it's something she really needs. She just goes
Speaker 1: about it in a questionable way, right, totally, And so
Speaker 1: we see the real her real fear and that she's, God,
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose my daughter again. And I know
Speaker 1: this is a really messed up thing I did and
Speaker 1: how I did it, But you know, at least they're
Speaker 1: here once a week and I need that. She needs that. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I start feeling for a little bit, I thought.
Speaker 3: That was totally. Yeah, I think there's something it's important for.
Speaker 4: Emily to see those moments where you're like, oh, I see,
Speaker 4: and then for that to also then kind of trickle down.
Speaker 3: She doesn't.
Speaker 4: Now I don't agree with her projecting her own fears
Speaker 4: of her and Laura I on Laura I with Rory,
Speaker 4: which it does.
Speaker 3: But I do think that.
Speaker 4: It's important and it's relatable and it's real, like it's grounded,
Speaker 4: because then she gets in her head about you know,
Speaker 4: and Laura lies like, oh am, I gonna lose Rory
Speaker 4: if money changes everything.
Speaker 3: She has, freedom, she has all these things.
Speaker 4: Is she just gonna leave? She's just gonna leave, you know.
Speaker 4: So she definitely does. But then you have like the
Speaker 4: wonderful sounding board of Suki, who's like, you know, she's like,
Speaker 4: nothing's gonna change your guys' relationship. I mean, god, I
Speaker 4: love Suki, and Melissa McCarthy is just obviously she's incredible.
Speaker 4: But it's in a it's a nice sounding board for
Speaker 4: Laurel I too, because she needs to hear that, because
Speaker 4: she has the anxieties of Emily in her ear that
Speaker 4: Rory's going to go travel the world and she's going
Speaker 4: to move out sooner and they're gonna, you know, their
Speaker 4: whole relationship is going to shift. So I thought that
Speaker 4: was a really great, powerful storyline.
Speaker 1: For sure. You know, something that life changing for for
Speaker 1: Rory and for all of them. I should have been
Speaker 1: discussed in private, right. It's like they did it right
Speaker 1: in front of them, And it's like, why didn't Tricks
Speaker 1: just talk to her son about it, right, And I'll
Speaker 1: talk to Emily and I'll let it. You know, we'll
Speaker 1: get back to you in this kind you know, that's
Speaker 1: kind of how it works in real life. But she's
Speaker 1: just like sort of like, you know, trumpeting it out
Speaker 1: to the entire family right in the living room. It's like, whoa.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, you know, that's I guess that's Tricks.
Speaker 1: That's her style exactly. Just vomited all out and get
Speaker 1: what she wants right, you know, and watch everybody spinning around.
Speaker 4: For I do think Lorlai is a good match for
Speaker 4: Tricks though, mm hmm. She can hold her own with Tricks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think there's anybody who who Laurla can't
Speaker 1: hold her totally. She can't hold her correct correct anyway
Speaker 1: that came out. She is formidable opponent for sure. So
Speaker 1: we see, you know, Emily's hysterical. Now they're alone, Richard
Speaker 1: and Emily alone, and she lets him know, you know,
Speaker 1: all of her fears come out. That's that was a
Speaker 1: very tender scene for me though. That was wonderful. All right, now, uh,
Speaker 1: Rory and Paris are together. Paris had a great night
Speaker 1: with Tristan. She didn't use her note cards at all.
Speaker 1: And we find out that Tristan just is not interested
Speaker 1: in the second date, a romantic date. He just wants
Speaker 1: to be friends. She's left five messages on his on
Speaker 1: his voicemail so far and that morning and he's just like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know that we can be friends. And
Speaker 1: you just see Paris just dies slowly right there. It's
Speaker 1: very sad, very sad. But I thought she handsled it
Speaker 1: very well, you know. Yeah. I mean that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a tough tough blow to take there, right in front
Speaker 1: of everybody, you know. That's the thing about this show,
Speaker 1: and all this stuff happens right in front of everybody.
Speaker 3: If it doesn't, everybody finds out about it real quick, right.
Speaker 1: And Tristan says he likes someone else, and he hesitates
Speaker 1: to admit that it's Summer. So do you think I
Speaker 1: think it's it's Rory. I think he does like her,
Speaker 1: that's really yes, And I think it was a good
Speaker 1: idea for Rory A Lorli not to tell Rory about
Speaker 1: the money, agreed. It really it's like it wasn't necessary
Speaker 1: to tell.
Speaker 3: Her, right, And I think that uh when Rory.
Speaker 4: Of course, Tristan is the one who's like, well, it
Speaker 4: was a great you know, Rory's idea to have me
Speaker 4: ask you out, and then Liza like flips on her,
Speaker 4: which is so good at but come on, Tristan, come on,
Speaker 4: But buddy.
Speaker 3: Doesn't help anybody, like anybody.
Speaker 1: It's like in golf parlance, I think with uh, with like,
Speaker 1: you know, Tristan is in between clubs. I know he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to use the he doesn't in Paris. He
Speaker 1: can't see it Rory. He's intimidated by Rory. He just doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what to do. No, he doesn't here,
Speaker 1: there's no move there and he friends zoned Paris real fast.
Speaker 1: But just I guess, you know, merciful, he knew that
Speaker 1: wasn't ye tea. Now we're at tea and this is
Speaker 1: really anxiety inducing scene where Laurel is going to blow
Speaker 1: the money. It's not and this this is money versus life, right,
Speaker 1: it's like real life, real and and it always comes
Speaker 1: out on that. This is why I love this show
Speaker 1: because it's like, again, nobody cares about your money. This
Speaker 1: is about my daughter. What's best for my daughter. And
Speaker 1: if it's me and my daughter we end up together
Speaker 1: with no money, that's okay because we will figure it out.
Speaker 1: That's what I love about this show.
Speaker 3: This is a good point. It's a very good point.
Speaker 1: And you know, tricks over here is everything and I
Speaker 1: really you know, Lauren sort of shifts gears into her drama.
Speaker 1: You know, the comedy chops are so refined and so good,
Speaker 1: and then she shifts gears into the drama chops and
Speaker 1: they're there, they're just and she displaced them in the scene, right, yes,
Speaker 1: and she and she she's this is why I could
Speaker 1: never understand why she didn't win every award. Why do
Speaker 1: you think, why do you think, Jenna, let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about this. Why wasn't she nominated every single year? Why
Speaker 1: do you do you know of a better performance from
Speaker 1: two thousand to two thousand and seven on television? I
Speaker 1: mean there's some great performances.
Speaker 3: Were you guys in the comedy category?
Speaker 4: Are you in the in the drama category? I'd say drama, right,
Speaker 4: but you never know with these papers.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I forget.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it's it's hard to say.
Speaker 4: But even so, I don't know that there was a
Speaker 4: better performance on screen at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I just.
Speaker 4: Get overlooked and I can't. I don't understand it. Sometimes
Speaker 4: the show just doesn't like it. It's so popular with
Speaker 4: the fans and it has its own, you know, its
Speaker 4: own phenomenon, but then the award shows kind of like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, they stay away from it. But I
Speaker 4: am just I'm shocked. I'm ventually because it wasn't edgy enough.
Speaker 1: It was too sure, it was too soft. Maybe hmmm,
Speaker 1: it was too.
Speaker 4: It really should have won on everything kind yeah, for everything.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't understand it. I mean, I guess
Speaker 4: she was nominated for the Globes. It looked like at
Speaker 4: one point, but like not enough, not enough. Yeah, she
Speaker 4: really deserved it all like.
Speaker 1: These like you know, the Friends cast, they're nominated every
Speaker 1: year for everything, and they went and they should and
Speaker 1: they deserved it, right, But how do you deny you know,
Speaker 1: Lauren Kelly, you know ed herm how do you deny
Speaker 1: these people recognition when the work is like it's right
Speaker 1: there out in front of everybody's face. It's like, do
Speaker 1: better than this? And how does how does Amy get denied?
Speaker 1: And and you know, you know what happened on on
Speaker 1: Masel yay, right, yes, you know she gets all the
Speaker 1: trophies Dan and and Amy get the trophies finally, but.
Speaker 3: Wow, people caught on finally.
Speaker 1: I just stre it is. It's very confusing anyway. So
Speaker 1: the upshot of this scene is we don't we don't
Speaker 1: care about the money. And Laura, l I, in her
Speaker 1: heart of hearts, understands why Emily is freaked out. Emily
Speaker 1: confesses and Laurela I, you know, has some compassion for
Speaker 1: her own mother. And we'll just keep things the same.
Speaker 1: You know, you can keep control because you may be
Speaker 1: a tyrant. Tricks is a dictator, and like, we don't
Speaker 1: want no party, that's right, It's like whoa. And I
Speaker 1: think Emily apologizing, you know, that's real growth and that's
Speaker 1: a real big step. And I think their relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: mending that relationship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she realized what they were both acting a little
Speaker 4: childish over this whole thing and could.
Speaker 3: Have been handled differently. And you know, I think they
Speaker 3: both saw their their ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's only two hundred and fifty thousand bucks.
Speaker 1: And man, when they sneeze in the nose, I thought
Speaker 1: it was like twenty million.
Speaker 3: I guess back then though it was a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Uh No, it's a lot of money. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of money for sure.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Now we at the boss stop Lorealizer to pick up Roy.
Speaker 1: That was nice. I really like that.
Speaker 4: Uh it's nice to end the show about the episode
Speaker 4: that way, and for them to.
Speaker 3: Be so.
Speaker 4: Just up front about everything, Like I just love their
Speaker 4: uh their relationship and how open they are and you know,
Speaker 4: we love to see it.
Speaker 1: Hey kidd, and you know you just lost out of
Speaker 1: quarter of a million dollars. Well, but do you want.
Speaker 3: To go to Luke's Yeah, exactly and the stars hollow.
Speaker 1: It ain't about money. The currency is. The currency is
Speaker 1: caring about other people and that's love. Community and that's
Speaker 1: the currency. It's it's having each other's backs. That's nice.
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Speaker 1: Jenna, Now it's time to talk about yellow Fever.
Speaker 3: What a crazy time.
Speaker 1: So I do. This movie with Jenna was it twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: We filmed at New York.
Speaker 3: City before that a little earlier.
Speaker 1: Was it before two thousand and seven? And that was
Speaker 1: after it was twenty seventeen. I think, so, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so tennis movie together. And I know you traveled around
Speaker 1: with her, right you want to a little.
Speaker 3: Bit a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where did you go? Did you go to? You went
Speaker 1: to Santa Barbara.
Speaker 4: I didn't make it to Santa Barbara, but we were
Speaker 4: around in La and we were around other I think
Speaker 4: New York. I went to back to New York to
Speaker 4: do some stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you go to London? Did I go to London?
Speaker 1: There was like a London festival. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was a London film festival.
Speaker 3: Maybe it made it in there. I don't know that
Speaker 3: I went.
Speaker 4: I went to rain Dance and I go for that.
Speaker 4: I don't remember where was it. It's in La or no,
Speaker 4: in London? In London, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Maybe just Cat and Jan went to London because they
Speaker 4: were already there.
Speaker 1: I just remember, you know what I remember about that shoot?
Speaker 1: I remember like the dressing room was a bedroom and
Speaker 1: a Harlem uh condo. We're in Harlem shooting this thing.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, let's paint the picture a little bit, because yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead. We were doing this indie film, and indie
Speaker 4: films have quite low budget. But you know, you bring
Speaker 4: in a cast of some good people who are working,
Speaker 4: who have some names, who you know they're like this
Speaker 4: person's attached, and this person's attaching.
Speaker 3: Like great, let's do it. Let's go have a good time.
Speaker 3: And so you have like this.
Speaker 4: Really compact shoot for an indie film, and you know
Speaker 4: that there's probably not going to be trailers for you
Speaker 4: to go back to. There's just bedrooms in the townhouse
Speaker 4: where you're shooting everything. The whole movie takes place in
Speaker 4: this townhouse that they make other locations and aside from
Speaker 4: Korean barbecue, which we also did, but.
Speaker 3: It's just crazy, we.
Speaker 4: Did like a night shoot in a Crea town and
Speaker 4: I just remember being so hot. It was summer, right
Speaker 4: and I was in a wig because my character had
Speaker 4: a way, but it was and they had to turn
Speaker 4: the air off while we were shooting because the sound
Speaker 4: so I'm just dripping so what off down my face.
Speaker 4: There's close ups I'm shooting and they're like, please hold
Speaker 4: the camera.
Speaker 3: We have to go dab. It's just sweating from this wig.
Speaker 3: But we had a good time.
Speaker 4: It was so crazy, and there's something about those like
Speaker 4: coming from shows that have these big budgets and you know,
Speaker 4: everything is so large in size and scale to then
Speaker 4: going to New York in a townhouse and doing a
Speaker 4: movie like that that you just, you know, you want
Speaker 4: to do good work and work with good people.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right, I would rather do that
Speaker 1: because that's why I got in the business in the
Speaker 1: first place. It was to do theater, and it was
Speaker 1: to do independent film totally and work for the love
Speaker 1: of it, not for the money of it, but for
Speaker 1: the love of the work, right, and love working with
Speaker 1: the people that you're working with. And you know, I
Speaker 1: find in those situations that all this bs that I
Speaker 1: somewhat object to in this TV business is you got
Speaker 1: you got a number after your name or before your name,
Speaker 1: so you're that number, right, and you're expected to act
Speaker 1: like that number, right. And it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: indie film and sometimes in in theater that I did,
Speaker 1: they throw a bunch of people together. Nobody had any
Speaker 1: seniority or hierarchy. There was no hierarchy. It was just like,
Speaker 1: let's throw a bunch of people in together, best idea
Speaker 1: wins in and let's let's just go ahead and rock
Speaker 1: this thing totally. And that's when I think you get
Speaker 1: the best results because you can find yourself in these
Speaker 1: situations where it's just like everybody's got a title and
Speaker 1: everybody's got a number, and you know, number three is
Speaker 1: an acting like he's trying to act like a number one,
Speaker 1: and number one doesn't act like a number one, and
Speaker 1: there's no leadership, and it's like, what, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: not the army. This should not be treated like the
Speaker 1: army or a corporate structure, that's right, you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: get the peeps. And that's what I felt that was.
Speaker 1: And Kat the director was very open to ideas and
Speaker 1: rewrites and suggestions, and she wanted to make the scenes great.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yes, very collaborative.
Speaker 1: I thought she was very smart and very collaborative. Yeah, agreed,
Speaker 1: And when she heard a good idea, she recognized it,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's why I got into this business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to do that is to create that good work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's so, what's your favorite moments from filming?
Speaker 4: Me dripping beaten side on my face, no, no, just
Speaker 4: working with all of you guys.
Speaker 3: And I think that it was Kat's story and and and.
Speaker 4: So it was really fun to collaborate with her because
Speaker 4: we were telling her story, but she was so open
Speaker 4: to my experience, and and then for us to make
Speaker 4: sure that like you know, between our relationship and our
Speaker 4: characters in the movie, that it wasn't there was no
Speaker 4: kind of creepy element to it because of the.
Speaker 3: Age gap and you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And so there was just all these things that we
Speaker 4: were always looking out for. So I think the collaborative,
Speaker 4: kind of creative side of it was really fun. I
Speaker 4: remember us doing that night shoot in Korea Town and
Speaker 4: we were like, oh God, but it was a really
Speaker 4: fun scene to shoot. I also feel like for me
Speaker 4: at that time, coming off of Glee, where there was
Speaker 4: like eighteen characters in a scene and there's just always
Speaker 4: like so much hubbub and there's you never very rarely
Speaker 4: got very intimate scenes with like one to two people.
Speaker 4: And I had luckily been able to do a little
Speaker 4: bit of theater right before Yellow Fever and then another
Speaker 4: indie film which I had a really fun time on.
Speaker 3: So like I was kind of in this like this really.
Speaker 4: Nice train of doing smaller work and I think like
Speaker 4: being able to have our scenes at night and just
Speaker 4: like one on one and working together was really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I missed that too, one of the
Speaker 1: long stuff and intense scenes and you just get to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that stuff too. I love this.
Speaker 4: There's also like a scene where the boy runs away,
Speaker 4: the brother comes back, he comes back.
Speaker 3: Right, and we're all there and like we rarely.
Speaker 4: Got to all work together and that way too. So
Speaker 4: the whole cast was there was so small. It's just
Speaker 4: like us and you know, a couple of other people.
Speaker 4: So that was really nice.
Speaker 1: Well what Yellow Fever Part two is it coming? What
Speaker 1: do you think if you're listening? Could use a little
Speaker 1: bigger budget, right, totally totally yeah, Yeah, definitely get some
Speaker 1: numbers by our names. Make sure.
Speaker 3: His boss right exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, down't outshine the number one.
Speaker 4: Don't you don't you come for me?
Speaker 1: Jenna was great catching up. We're out of time. You
Speaker 1: got to come back, love to you got to come back,
Speaker 1: and then you've got to come back again and again.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about more. Giler, because I know you're
Speaker 1: a super fan. You like to talk about this stuff
Speaker 1: I do. And and one thing I didn't mention is
Speaker 1: your your husband is a Yale man. Yes, and he
Speaker 1: stayed in the dorm Rory's thing right, correct, stay in
Speaker 1: the real dorm. Yes, the real That's a nice little
Speaker 1: piece of trivia. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Uh, keep raising them babies up. Thank you all
Speaker 1: the best, great scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You got it. We'll talk soon, all right, jen as
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