1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Scalable advice for sure, spice, It's time nice low lower 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: lower lower Lowerllo, welcome to the naughty but nice sham. 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Your Headstrom shoes run back in America. So if the 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: microphone sounds a little bit more crispy today, you are welcome. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging with me. The last week I 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: was over in the UK for my dad's funeral. Very 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: stressful but also very very beautiful. It is good to 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: be home after all the years that I have worked here, 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: lived here over thirty years. Now, I've spent more of 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: my life in New York than in Britain. I feel 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: like I'm an American. I do have an American passport, 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: I am an American citizen. But when I came through 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: customs and that brilliant God said to me, welcome homest Shooterer, 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, I am home. So 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: it's good to be back. Nought He's joining us every third. 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Our dear friend, Mark, Lupo, Libby, are you there. 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Luby lewis here? Welcome home, rab Thank you. 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Darling, your text, your messages. While I was overseas dealing 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: with family, really sad moments, but inevitable moments were really appreciated. 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: So thank you for being a friend. Let's jump into 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: the show. What time is it, my friends? It is 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: tea time. So Kim Kardashian is devastated by her mini 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: series flapp and co stars are hugging her as she 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: blames herself. So multiple sources are telling me she is 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: a rattled by this Brian Ryan Murphy, sorry Ryan Murphy miniseries. 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: It's called All Fair and it has crashed, getting an 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: unprecedented zero percentage on Rotten Tomatoes. So Rotten Tomatoes is 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: a great sight. It really gives you an indication of 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: how these shows are. Some get ninety percent even higher. 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I seen some I've never seen a show with zero. 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: Sources are saying that when Kim found out about that, 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: when she read the reviews, face dropped. She looked like 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: she'd been slapped. Now her col starts at major Glenn Close, 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Naomi Watts, Me, Seeing Nash, Sarah Paulson, they're all in this, 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and they're all supporting Kim. They're not being catty about this. 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: They've been really, really protective. They got to really like him. 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: It is easy to dismiss Kim Kardashian, and we've done it. Many, 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: many times, maybe even on this show, thinking she's a joke. 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: She's not. She does the work. Is she the greatest actress? 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Probably not. I've only seen a little bit of this, 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: this mini series. It's campy, it's silly. It's exactly what 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: you want, I think from Ryan Murphy. Let's be honest. 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: He didn't cast her because she's Meryl Streep. He cast 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: her because she's Kim Kardashian. She's gonna get a ton 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: of press, which she did do. We're all talking about it. 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: I just wish Mark for Kim's sake, for our sake, 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: the show is just twenty percent better. It's not great. 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Have you seen it? What do you think? 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great. And you know, I've been mitted 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: in the show before. I'm a longtime Kardashian watcher, and 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: I support Kim and all the endeavors. But you know, 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: sometimes you're just not good at certain things, and I 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: think this is, you know, proof of that, and you 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: know it's not all Kim's fault. The script is terrible. 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: It's over the top, but not in a way that's 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: kind of fun. It's just it's just so ridiculous. It's 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: hard to watch and you know, what are you gonna do? 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: She did the work. She wouldn't promoted the show. She 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: she big cross promoted on the Kardashians. Everything was there 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: for this to be a success. And I think ultimately 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: they're writing the plot wasn't great, and that's kind of that. 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Kim let the cast down. Kim, 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: if you're listening to Loa Loa Low, I know the 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Kardashians know you, Mark, they know me, so they could 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: be listening to this podcast. It's not totally Kim's fault. 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: What she was given was not very good. It just 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: wasn't very good material. Everything starts in show business. With 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: good material, you could be the greatest actress actor in 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the world. And if the materials rough, it's gonna be 70 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: a rough movie, mini serious here, and so it just 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: wasn't really thought through. And now some would argue that's 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: why Kim was hired. She's not gonna get offered Shindler's list. 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: She's not gonna get offered the really great, great projects. 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: She's gonna get offered the B list projects. And I 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: think here though, what's interesting to me is that she 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: really did try and Glenn Close. That's somebody who should 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: have an Academy Award. She doesn't nominated several times, but 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: she's an extraordinary actress for them to accept Kim, and 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: they really really did. Kim really did her hardest here, 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Kim god ashy. Let's face it, she could have made 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: a movie mini series ten years ago. She could make 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: an album. She's so damn famous, she has so many 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Instagram followers. I really respect that Kim has resisted for 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: a long time to really get involved in this stuff. 85 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: She's known her laying and so she's now trying to 86 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: branch out. It hasn't really worked, which brings us to 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Kim is devastated by 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: her mini serious flop. It's just not very good. It's 89 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: not just Kim's fault. The writing's awful. It's just not 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: a very good show. She blames herself. Do you think 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: we will see Kim making anymore? Is this going to 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: turn her off? When you do something and everyone's so 93 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: mean and you don't need to do it, she doesn't 94 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: need the money, like she's just going to stop doing 95 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: this or is Kim going to carry on? Let's be 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: honest here, Mark, people have been mean about her for 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: twenty years. Like this is not new for Kim. She 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: knows that Hollywood is not a huge fan of hers. 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: Remember when she we used to get banned from the 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: met Ball and now she's a star. Never counteract, Kim, 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Kim turn around a conversation and part of that naughties 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: and it's a lesson we all have to learn. Keep going. 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: Failure is part of the process. In fact, the road 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: to success, it's paved with failure. Mark, I have failed 105 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: so many times, and it's only the fact that I 106 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: kept going that made me successful. It wasn't some extraordinary talent. 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't some wisdom, some knowledge that somebody gave me. No, 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. I just kept going. I refused to 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: give in. So part of me hopes Kim just keeps 110 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: marching and doing what she wants here. But what do 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: you think? Will she give up? Yes? Or no? Go 112 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice rob Our 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: facebook page is Naughty Gossip. I'm be sure to check 114 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Loopy, what are 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: you working on? Yeah? 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: Uh oh? 117 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: So. 118 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen is feeling stung by a rare Hollywood flop 119 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: as his fans have rejected his fifty five million dollar 120 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: bio pick. Let me explain. So, Bruce Springsteen has weathered 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: stadium storms, industry wars, and aging rock stardom, but this 122 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: one is really going to hurt. Sources sell our podcast 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: that deliver Me from Nowhere. That's the movie is chronicling 124 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: the creation of Bruce's brooding classic Nebraska album, and it's 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: collapsing at the box office, scraping just sixteen point six 126 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: million dollars domestically and thirty point eight million worldwide, and 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: the production budget was fifty five million before marketing, and 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: insiders are saying there's no word other than flop to 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: describe a situation. Sources say it's crushing. Bruce didn't approve this. 130 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 2: He'd poured his whole soul into this and on people. 131 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: The film was set to win an Oscar, included Jeremy 132 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Alan White and Jeremy Strong, but critics say that it 133 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: just didn't connect. 134 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: What do you think it didn't connect? I've seen this movie. 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: It's a really good movie. I think the problem with 136 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: this movie, and this is a compliment Bruce Springsteen's life, 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: personal life. It's just not that messy he's not a 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: real housewife. What made the Queen movie so great that 139 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury was a mess. He was fabulous, but he 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: was sloppy. Elton John sloppy, or at least he was. 141 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: That's why these stories are so fantastic when there's no 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: story there, when the celebrity is a little bit dull. 143 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: And often these pop stars are on stage they're more 144 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: interesting than they are off stage. We've met many of them, 145 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: Mark big, big pop stars, a little dull. I think 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Nick Jonas is fantastic on stage whenever I've met him, 147 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: whenever I've sat with him, Oh he's as dull as 148 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: they come. That interesting. And Nick, if you're listening Yellow 149 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: and Below, you're fabulous what you're doing. You don't have 150 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: to put on a show when you sit down with me. 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I get it. I don't need the Nick Joonas show. 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Although I would love for him to get up a 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: bottinaz and just do one, two and just one song, 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to do that, MRK. That's not that 155 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: sort of And so often these celebrities' private lives are 156 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: just not that interesting. And this is what the mistake 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: they make making movies and musicals. It's not just the music. 158 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: You need a story. So Bruce has the greatest songs ever. 159 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, those songs are fantastic, but personally a bit moody, 160 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: bit grumpy, not the most interesting. Billy Joel. Now that 161 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: would be a good movie or musical because the songs 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: are there. But the story is there too. Dolly Parton, 163 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: they're doing a musical of her life. Her story is fabulous, 164 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: born into poverty, all those brothers and sisters and rose 165 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: to the top. So you need a story there too. 166 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: It must be concerning. Though he really did think this 167 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: was going to be massive. Has not done very well, 168 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, I get it. It stings. It stings when 169 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: things don't do as well as you hope. But don't 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: worry for Bruce. He's still selling out concerts. He's got 171 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: tons of money. He's going to be fine. Okay, moving along, 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: Prince Harry dropped a bombshell and everybody in the UK 173 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: they heard what he said. So he was asked where 174 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: he lives and he said currently, I live in the US. 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: Now that's a very unusual thing to say. He could 176 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: have said I live in America, he didn't. He added 177 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the word currently, So Mark. If I say to you, Muckleypen, 178 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: where do you live and you say, currently, I live 179 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: in Harlem, I'm like, oh, he's not going to stay there. 180 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Robs shed A, where do you live? Currently? I live 181 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: in Chelsea. He's not going to say. You wouldn't say that. 182 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: I'd say I live in Chelsea because I'm never leaving 183 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: this apartment. Carrie said, currently, Well, people in Britain have noticed. 184 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: The Palace has noticed. I was back in Britain for 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: a week, so I really did get a ton of 186 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: new royal gossip. I spent some time with people I 187 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: went to school with, university with, and a lot of 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: them do work at the Palace. The Palace hires hundreds 189 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: of people. It is. They call it the best gay 190 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: bar in Britain. All my gay friends. And I'm working 191 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: a book at a palace, so low Loo Loo. They 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: listened to the walk you get the King to listen 193 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Hello Charlie. Well, they told me all the gout it. 194 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: They said, oh my goodness, Harry did say currently maybe 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: he wants to go back. I think he does. My 196 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: insiders are telling me you do miss home Mark. When 197 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: I went back to Britain, I grew up in Birmingham, England. 198 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: I felt really at home. I just sat on my 199 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: mom's couch. And I'm not saying that I don't love 200 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: it here. I do. This is home too, but there 201 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: was something about where you grow up. And Harry spent 202 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: at least what twenty thirty years of his life in Britain. 203 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: He spent a lot more time of his life in 204 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: Britain than in California. It's a real cultural change to him, 205 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: and also too. In Britain he was treated like a 206 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: crown prince. He was treated very, very well. He's treated 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: well here in America, but it's not the same. People 208 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: don't bow for him in Montecito when he walks into 209 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: the Starbucks. People don't drop to their knees. Women are 210 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: not doing a curtsy. In Britain, they are He's a 211 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: crown prince, so arguably he had a better life in Britain. 212 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: Interesting choice of words. Am I reading into it? 213 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: Mark? 214 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Or do you think my my suspicion, my nosiness has 215 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: once again got to be proven right. 216 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: Well, you're as equally as nosey as I am. And 217 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to admit that they think about this 218 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: almost every day, like what's it going to be like 219 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: if they do separate and he has to move back 220 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: to London and she's ongoing, she's never going back. And 221 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: that's the that's the hard fact here. And you know, 222 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: I think they have been pushing this narrative that everything 223 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: is so happy and great in Montecito. And even just recently, 224 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: Megan posted a video of herself reacting when the La 225 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Dodgers won and Harry is just sitting on the couch 226 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: by himself, like with the half half smiled, looking miserable, 227 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like, this guy is all the way out. 228 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: He's all the way out, and he wants to go home. 229 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: And I get it. 230 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: He wants to go home. Yeah, he wants to go home. 231 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: My sources are telling me, not just my sources in Britain, 232 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: people I know who work for Harry and Meghan in La. 233 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Friends of their say he's just never really fit in. 234 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Ally is a tough place if you don't look like 235 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt and you're in the entertainer business, which is 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: Harry's business now they're in the podcast. In entertainment business, 237 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: it's rough. He's a really nice looking guy, but he's 238 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: balled in. He's not got a six pack of abs, 239 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: and that's what they want in Hollywood. We've been their Mark. 240 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: I'm always the fat guy in Hollywood would like I'm 241 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: the old fat guy. I'm in New York. I'm at 242 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: eight in Hollywood. I'm a throat on a good day. 243 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: It's a tough place, Mark, and Harry just does not 244 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: have that Hollywood look. I think he's going to go home. 245 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: And the question here Mark really got to the center 246 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: of the argument here. She ain't going back. So if 247 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: he's talking about or thinking about going back, it's by himself. 248 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: She's not. There's no way she is going back. It's 249 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: just not going to happen. Everyone we know who knows 250 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: her Mark, she's never She will not even go back 251 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: for the King's funeral. Like She's just she's not going back. 252 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: The fact he's saying he currently lives in la that 253 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're moving to Atlanta. I don't think they're 254 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: moving to Florida. There's any one place that he's moving to. 255 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: And he is back to London. Okay, this story made 256 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: me chuckle a little bit. Joey who I loved him 257 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor. I thought he was so cute on 258 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: the bachelor, but he's still not married. Mark, He's busy, busy, busy, 259 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: but he's not exactly married. What's going on? 260 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: He's not so the nation's golden boy just had a 261 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: finish line, but not the ones that fans are begging for. 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: Fresh off grinding out of the New York City Marathon, 263 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: Joey Grasida it was spotted limping through l e X, 264 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: proudly nursing his sorkas like a badge of honor. He 265 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: made it with seconds to very told the Shooters Told 266 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Shooters Group, grinning through the pain. But while the marathon 267 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 2: pace was blistering, wedding planning with fiancee Kelsey Anderson is crawling. 268 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: He said. We're in the early stages of planning. AKA, 269 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: they've pinned two floral arrangements and maybe booked a playlist together. Rob, 270 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like this is moving in the direction 271 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: of the way. 272 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: No not. There's something going on here. They're busy enough 273 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: to do to do the stuff they want to do, 274 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: but yet they're too busy to get married be a priority. 275 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: All my sources are saying there's something very off here. 276 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: If he can train for the marathon, he got enough 277 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: time to get ready for a wedding if he can 278 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: do all this TV stuff. Well, I'm told he's holding 279 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: this up is they want a reality show wedding. They 280 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: want this to be televised and they don't have that yet. 281 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: So you know, I like that his friends are defending him. 282 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: I like that his friends are saying, oh, they're planning, 283 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and they don't want this to be in the spotlight. 284 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: It's the opposite the reality stars. Even if they're good 285 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: people and they could be all reality stars. We've ever 286 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: met Mark love one thing the spotlight. They wouldn't be 287 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: on a reality show. He wants a big ABC, a 288 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: big network work wedding, and they don't want to do 289 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: that for him, and so they're trying to figure this 290 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: one out. Oh this is what buggd me about these shows. 291 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: When you realize it's not actually about love, it's about 292 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: the love of money, about the love of fame, about 293 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the love of being in the spotlight, it really turns 294 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: you off. And that's the floor. That's the fundamental problem 295 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: with the reality sho shows. Anyone that goes on them now, 296 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: not in the beginning, but now they go on it 297 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: to become rich and famous. No one's going on it 298 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: to celebrate their life, to have a good time. It's 299 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: always off one eye thinking I'm going to become rich, 300 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: and so it's just it's changed the type of people 301 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: the audition for these shows. And so I find this 302 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: like not totally true. But Jerry, we wish you the best. 303 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: He is cute, their mark he's a kid. Is Okay, 304 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and we will 305 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to the Nord even nice show. 306 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: It's so good to be back in New York City. Naughties. Hey, 307 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: let's get to the poll. D So last show, we 308 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: didn't actually give a poll, so when I was in 309 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Britain it was quite tricky to do the polls mark 310 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: because I didn't quite know when we were going to 311 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: be taping. It was a logistic problem, so we didn't 312 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: have a poll. But now we're back to schedule. Don't 313 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: forget to vote on today's pole, don't forget to vote 314 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: on to day is Paul. It's a really really good 315 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: one today. Kim Kardashian, is she gonna give her back 316 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: to in after this awful response? I mean, really cruel. 317 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't think she thought she was gonna get an oscar, 318 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: but she didn't expect it to be this bad? What 319 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: do you think? Go vote on our Twitter page at 320 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Naughty and Nise Rob. A facebook page is Naughty Gossip 321 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. 322 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: And now it's time for and nicest of the day. 323 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh this is one of my favorites. 324 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Rob. It's you what you've changed it? You little stinkers? 325 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: Is it in the script mark? It's not in this. 326 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: I'm very naughty. 327 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: I'll go with it. 328 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: So, of course this is dedicated to your first novel, 329 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: and it's having Hollywood buzzing and insiders are sweating that 330 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: they really are, So move over, Devil Worst Prada. There's 331 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: a new guilty pleasure in town and it's sharper, sexier 332 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: and aimed straight at the heart of fame. Celebrity insider, 333 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: columnist and VH one gossip table hose Rob Shooter has 334 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: sold his debut novel and it's started with the whisper 335 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: as the title, and the buzz is already absolutely deafening. 336 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Answers started saying what the double worst product did for fashion? 337 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 2: It started with a whisper? Does for gossip? It does 338 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: it's very juicy, it's dangerously real and a glamorous page 339 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: turner about fame, friendship, and betrayal, and it's rob I'm 340 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: so excited for this book. It's gonna be awesome. 341 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: Thank you. The buzz is really great. So what happened 342 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: is my publisher it doesn't come out to April, but 343 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: my publisher is like, you've got to do some press now, 344 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: because pre orders on Amazon is everything. If you can 345 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: sell a couple of thousand books on Amazon before the 346 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: book even comes out, it puts you in a very 347 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: good position to have a hit. And so I just 348 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: did a little bit of press, not that much, but 349 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: friends reached out to me, my friends at Radar, at Wonderworld. 350 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: At page six came out, Elvis Duran has plugged the 351 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: book Rosanna Scotto and so thank you, thank you, thank you. 352 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: I just was going to put up a picture of 353 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: the cover on my Instagram and pin it, so it's 354 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: the first picture, and so I did that and then 355 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: people went nuts. And now the bus is really exciting. 356 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are nervous about who I'm 357 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: gossiping about. So there's already been not not legal threats, 358 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: but there's been a few few interest, a little bit 359 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: of interest from a few lawyers. Boy, thank you so much. 360 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: If you do have a minute and you want to 361 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: do me a solid, please go to Amazon. Type in 362 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: rob Shooter, type in it started with a whisper. I 363 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: think it's seventeen eighteen dollars. You can pre order it 364 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: now and in April you'll forget you've even ordered it. 365 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: And in April it will turn up on your doorstep 366 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: as a little surprise, and you will be guaranteed to 367 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: get it when it first comes out. So if you 368 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: have a minute today, if you could do that, I'd 369 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: be really grateful. Mark. That's a lovely thing for you 370 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: to do. Thank you for plugging me and my book. 371 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: And now I naughty is of the day, Naughty, naughty, naughty. 372 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: David Beckham finally got knighted, only after he cut ties 373 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: with Meghan and Harry's that's right to David always wanted 374 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: to be ninety, but he's too friendly with the Sussex Is. 375 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Remember there were friends, and then Megan accused Victoria of 376 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: gossiping behind her back, of almost leaking stories. They had 377 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: a huge fallout. Well guess who David and Victoria are 378 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: best friends with now Kate and William, and suddenly you 379 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: get a title. This is how the world works, my friends. 380 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: After the titles of wards are not given out on merit, 381 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: but on who you know, who you're friends with. Oh 382 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: it's shady, shady, shady, No, it is the dailer's then 383 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: with a moment of rubbi a rubber. Being challenged in 384 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: life is inevitable. Being defeated that is optional. Hard moments 385 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: aren't a something that you're on the wrong path. They're 386 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: actually a confirmation that you are growing. Challenges are part 387 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: of the deal. Life will push you, it always does. 388 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: It will stretch you, will frustrate you, and sometimes it 389 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: knocks your flat out. But defeat that's not something life 390 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: gives you. That's something you accept. You don't control every 391 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: obviouslycle but you do control your response. You can get 392 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: back up, you can try again, you can pivot, you 393 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: can turn the lesson into leverage. The people you admired 394 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: the most aren't lucky. They're relentless. They refuse to let 395 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: us set back become the ending. And that's the difference. 396 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: So when life challenges you, and it will tighten your grip, 397 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: take that hit. Learn the lesson and stand up anyway, 398 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: because once again, strength isn't built in comfort, it's built 399 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: in resistance. Challenge is guaranteed, Defeat is a choice. Hey, 400 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: that is it for today. Thank you so much for 401 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: listening to The Naughty Bit Nice with Rob and Mark show, 402 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: a production of iHeartRadio and Alvis Durant. Do you think 403 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: it to? Subscribed on the heart Radio app podcast Wherever 404 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: you listen, leave us a review if you can. They 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: really really do help. And remember altogether, Now, if you're 406 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: going to be naughty, you've got to let me hear 407 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: nice with Rast