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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ravens pres Pass podcast. It is Monday,

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Speaker 1: December first. The Ravens are gearing up for a week

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Speaker 1: fourteen matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, and today

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to hear from head coach John Harball.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good seeing everybody. Appreciate you guys being here. We're

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Speaker 2: coming off our last game. We've had a few days

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Speaker 2: obviously and done quite a bit of work. The players

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Speaker 2: have been away. We worked on Friday at a full

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Speaker 2: day and Friday with the players, and then throughout the

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Speaker 2: weekend different things that we're working on as coaches. But

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Speaker 2: I'll focus now on the Steelers coming up. And I

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Speaker 2: think we step back and look at it after the

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Speaker 2: first third of the season, our goal was to fight

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Speaker 2: our way, play our way back into contention and position

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Speaker 2: to compete for the AFC Nord Championship, and we've done that.

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Speaker 2: So here we are in the in the in the

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Speaker 2: in the last third of the season with that objective

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Speaker 2: and that challenge in front of us to go win

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Speaker 2: the AFC North which starts on Sunday. So that's where

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Speaker 2: we're at and that's what our focus will be.

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Speaker 3: What questions you have, John, as far as Nate Wiggans,

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Speaker 3: have you heard of anything as far as you know

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Speaker 3: the severity of it and is it I mean, could

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Speaker 3: it be a week to week BG or is it?

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Speaker 3: Could it be a possible I R situation?

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Speaker 2: Nate's day to day right now, So we'll see where

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Speaker 2: he's at on Wednesday, and we'll see where he's at

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Speaker 2: going forward from there.

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Speaker 3: John, you've got Henry Jones a little look. What was

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Speaker 3: your impression of him in his first jobbing?

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Speaker 2: I thought he played hard and uh and showed some athleticism,

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Speaker 2: you know, and some some fight and some gusto. Uh,

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Speaker 2: played like a rookie in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things to clean up for sure.

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Speaker 2: And then could be the first to tell you that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you can't really start making those improvement

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Speaker 2: it's until you play. You have to play in games

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Speaker 2: to start growing in that direction. Uh and he h.

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Speaker 2: He got a chance to do that, which was really positive.

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Speaker 2: And we'll just have to see going forward how much

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Speaker 2: we want to continue that as we go.

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Speaker 4: Possible that he could play the other guards spot as well.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's possible, but it's hard to do you know,

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Speaker 2: it's uh, it's we've had that conversation. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a good question. It's the same question that that that

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Speaker 2: I asked and that we asked. How viable is that?

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Speaker 2: But you take, you take a rookie and put them

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Speaker 2: on both sides, you kind of you compound the curve

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Speaker 2: quite a bit.

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Speaker 4: On the other side of that, How did you see workis.

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Speaker 3: Respond to being in a rotation and just.

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Speaker 5: What would you like to see from him to continue

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Speaker 5: playing or to solidify that job a little bit more

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Speaker 5: from him? Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, you take, there's a there's

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Speaker 2: it's there's a step between being a starter and being

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Speaker 2: an established starter kind of in the league, you know

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Speaker 2: kind of what you're talking about. And when you're a

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Speaker 2: younger player like Andrew or a lot of guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: you you want to you want to establish yourself as

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Speaker 2: a as a as a starter, you know, and and

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Speaker 2: I think he's in the process of doing that. You know,

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Speaker 2: he played good boy graded out highly, you know, is

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Speaker 2: his numbers were good. Daniel grade out highly too. There

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Speaker 2: you know there's plays that both of them on backtors

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Speaker 2: plays at their line wants back to I promise it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's tough to play a line in this league,

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Speaker 2: but consistency really is the bottom line, you know, just

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Speaker 2: to be as consistent as you can possibly be and

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Speaker 2: have as many really upside plays as you can, but

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Speaker 2: most of all, as much as possible, and it's the

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Speaker 2: interior offensive line is probably the toughest place to do.

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Speaker 2: It is to minimize the negative places as much as

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Speaker 2: you can, you know, and that's what we strive for.

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Speaker 2: I think we've done a really good job of that

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Speaker 2: over the years with our offensive line, and you keep

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Speaker 6: Weakness in that Cincinnati, this has been the past defense.

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Speaker 6: And it looked like you guys were trying to exploit

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Speaker 7: But when you see Henry.

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Speaker 6: Not get the ball in the second quarter, are you

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Speaker 6: happy with that? I know you want to exploit something,

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Speaker 6: but also just trying to keep him engaged in the game,

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Speaker 2: Did you like the balance in the yeah, no, no doubt, no,

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Speaker 2: we want to run the ball. We're running team, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the fact. And we were throwing team too.

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Speaker 2: We got Lamar Jackson, we got receivers, we got tight ends,

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Speaker 2: we got all that. But but we want to always

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Speaker 2: be a team that runs the ball and stops the run.

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Speaker 2: That's been since two thousand and eight. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: not going to really probably ever change and that's really

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Speaker 2: what football is so for sure. And when you look

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Speaker 2: at the game, I mean, you went, we went seven

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Speaker 2: So that explains the lack of carries in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have any plays in the second quarter to

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Speaker 2: the other part of that, it's just the number of

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Speaker 2: two minute plays was in the game was staggering. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we had twenty one to two minute plays. That's that's

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Speaker 2: way too high. And when you have that many too,

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Speaker 2: you know, I like, I don't mind too many plays

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Speaker 2: up about too many plays at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: That means you're trying to, you know, come back. And

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Speaker 2: so we had seven or eight too minute plays at

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Speaker 2: the end of the half, and we had I don't know,

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Speaker 2: we started two minutes at the nine thirty eight mark

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Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter. And that explains that the play

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Speaker 2: distribution as much as anything, explains the carries as much

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Speaker 7: When we talked to Lamar after the game, he seemed

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Speaker 7: a little bit of a loss to explain why his

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Speaker 7: accuracy wasn't there at the little team expects it to be.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he said, you know, in practice, it's been there.

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Speaker 7: From your standpoint, what can you guys do help him

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's just kind of what sports is,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I do think you're going to have,

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Speaker 2: that you take lightly, for sure. I know. Listen, Lamar

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Speaker 2: doesn't take it lightly more than anybody, and no player

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Speaker 2: So uh, that's what you do. You go back to work.

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Speaker 2: You go back to work and you get you get

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Speaker 2: you and you and you work together to be as

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Speaker 2: precise as you can. It was not a precise offensive

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Speaker 2: performance in any way. You know, there was nothing precise

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Speaker 2: we all know that, we're all you know, we're all

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Speaker 2: we're all not happy with it. You know, we're very

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Speaker 2: disappointed by it. But you can't live in it. You

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Speaker 2: got to move on and uh and and come out

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Speaker 2: swinging the next time. And and uh, I think if

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Speaker 2: you watched the league, you'll see that that's very possible.

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Speaker 8: John, for that point. And I know it's never one thing,

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Speaker 8: but is is it? H is attention to detail the

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Speaker 8: little things which specifically to to Lamar, that you'd like

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Speaker 8: to see, you know, kind of improved as all.

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Speaker 6: That's all those things, John, You happy with the way

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Speaker 6: you got's? It feels like you're not ending up into

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Speaker 6: the right play a lot, I guess offensively. I guess

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Speaker 6: going back to years past, especially in the last two years,

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Speaker 6: it seemed like you guys had the en aanswer for everything.

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Speaker 6: The defensive storn and Todd Munkin always talked about the

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Speaker 6: pre snap adjustments that are made in Lamar, particularly to

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Speaker 6: change plays. Do you feel like you guys are still

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Speaker 6: getting into those right places based on the looks at

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Speaker 2: So I think we do at times and the times

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Speaker 2: we don't. You know, it's it's part of the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all, it's all, it's all part of it.

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Speaker 2: There's if it was any one thing, then it would,

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Speaker 2: you know, it'd be one thing. But it's never any

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Speaker 2: one thing. It's always a moving target. That's why it's

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Speaker 2: so tough and so competitive. That's why you don't see

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Speaker 2: you see things change every week. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's sports, you know, and it's not you try

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Speaker 2: to chase. What we want to do is chase being

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Speaker 2: on the same page, being together, being connected. We want

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Speaker 2: to chase that in everything we do communication wise, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, efficiency, and then the defense throws a lot

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Speaker 2: adjust the movement, You've got adjust to your disguises. You've

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Speaker 2: got to adjust to guys showing up. We don't expect

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Speaker 2: them to show up sometime and have plans for all that.

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Speaker 2: You know. Even even a player, you know, just in

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Speaker 2: so crazy and chaotic, and we didn't do a good

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Speaker 2: about it. You know, we none of us are happy

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Speaker 2: when we really execute well and we put it together

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Speaker 2: and we have the answers like you're saying, uh, you

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Speaker 2: know and uh, and it shows up in the execution.

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Speaker 2: Really at the end of the day, it shows up

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Speaker 2: in the execution. So that's what we chase it.

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Speaker 4: There's been fumbling issues from different players throughout the season.

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Speaker 4: Earlier it was obviously the entry. You know, four bals

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Speaker 4: this last game and are all kind of each in

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Speaker 4: their own life. Is there anything team why to take

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Speaker 4: out of what's been happening?

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Speaker 5: You fumbling?

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Speaker 2: Well, we had five turnovers in the game. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's just shocking, you know, And uh, and they're all fumbles.

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Speaker 2: Four of them are fumbles, So that's that's that's probably

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Speaker 2: the common denominator. They're all fumbles. But there's really not

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Speaker 2: any one thing that you can say about any one

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Speaker 2: of them because all four of them are different. But

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Speaker 2: it comes back down to the common denominator is ball

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Speaker 2: security and the importance of executing ball security. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be done. It's got to be intentional.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be intentional, and everything you do from

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Speaker 2: day one, it's got to be practiced. It's got to

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Speaker 2: be it's got to be on your mind, at the

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Speaker 2: ball handler. And that's something that we we emphasize, you know,

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Speaker 2: we give high regard to and we talk about and

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Speaker 2: push demand every single day. But the players demanded themselves

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Speaker 2: every single day and to see it not execute it's yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's tough, man, it's it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: disappointing thing. And that's why we lost at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day. And that's the bottom line. That's the

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Speaker 2: main thing. So we all know it. We all we

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously a.

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Speaker 3: How much do you think this kind of mini buy

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Speaker 5: And do you think going forward it seems like there's

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Speaker 2: I really don't know. We'll set to see how it

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Speaker 4: John you open talking about this as North Race. You've

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Speaker 6: Do you do you.

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Speaker 3: Stress that back to back states to the team.

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Speaker 8: Is it simply this is Pittsburgh. We got to worry about.

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Speaker 7: What's your impression of them so far? Now you and

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Speaker 2: My impression is that that's the team we got to

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Speaker 9: In the off season, and you know, knowing me ending

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm I'm a big fan of Mark, you know,

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Speaker 2: And yet that's all it's all turned into the basically

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Speaker 7: Joe get So Chamlan Martin, is is that a you

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Speaker 3: You know more about that, and I guess you follow

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Speaker 2: That was that was neat to see young player. Justice

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