1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: That's right. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: He's nine with the Cleveland Guardians and he joins us 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: right now on FT. It's Sean Armstrong. Sean, great to 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: have you on the show. Thanks for the time, man, 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: and tell us how it all went down. 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: It's love, guys. How's it going? I mean it was 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: it was the fun. 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: It was a fun off season, man, I mean or 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: still in an off season, but yeah, I mean trying 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: to kind of go through the free agency process and 11 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: you know, weighing in the options, weighing in all the 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: different you know, teams and so forth as well, and 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: obviously the familiarity with being drafted by Cleveland that was 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: a huge bonus for me. And then you know, debuting 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: with those guys and having the same front office, seating, 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: medical staff, and then you know, being able to take 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: mine now kids back there with me to experience Cleveland again. 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited to join that organization. Sean. 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: What's the what was their pitch to you? 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: What was there? 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: What was the Guardians big pitch to get you to 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: sign there? Because I'm assuming you had other opportunities because 23 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: you had a great year last year. You got to 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: close some games, you had a under two and a 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: half era. You pitched in a ton of games. So 26 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: what was Cleveland's pitch Because they already have a closer, right, 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean, they have Kate Smith and Hunter Gadtis and 28 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: some other big studs down there. So what was Cleveland's 29 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: pitch to you to get you to go there? 30 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, they were. 31 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: They were in my top five anyways, whenever it came 32 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: down into the offseason, and again it came back to 33 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: the developmental aspect that I know that they have with 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: the pitching department. And I know Carl Willis, he was 35 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: in trip a whenever I was there, And again, I 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: kind of being a journeyman, I really don't care where 37 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: I pitched, you know, I'm excited to just go join 38 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: a really good bullpen. They've showed that over the past 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: few years, and I think collectively, you know, Cleveland's done 40 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: a really good job in the pitching department from top 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: to bottom, you know, overall, ever since I was there. 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: So I mean again, it was it was in my 43 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: it was one of my top five teams to go 44 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: back to. 45 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to go up and it's kind 46 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: of one of those things. 47 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: Where you know, going there and signing, you know, potential 48 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: two year deal and you never know when it's your last, 49 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, if that's where I debuted and that's where 50 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: I finish, I mean, that's kind of a blessing in 51 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: disguis to be able to go out that way. 52 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: But again, it really wasn't a big sel pitch for me. 53 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: They showed, you know, their interest, they were I was 54 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: their number one target, and that's a value that's very 55 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: valuable to me. But then again, having the familiarity with 56 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: the training staff at the front office and then along 57 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: with some of the coaching staff, and I've heard nothing 58 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: the good things about both, So I mean I'm super 59 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: excited to get there and join those guys and get 60 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: to know the young pitching staff. 61 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: Ye had the baby face Sean Armstrong picture up there earlier. 62 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: When you look at that picture, and hopefully our director 63 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 5: WILLI will put it back up. But when you look 64 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: at that picture, what do you think, goly that guy 65 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: knew nothing about this. 66 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Or what do you think? Ah? 67 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 5: Man, I wish I could still do this because I 68 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 5: remember when you and Clevenger used to play catch against 69 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: each other on the half field in spring training. 70 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously I'd like to steal roll out 71 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: of it and Night ninety nine. It's not It's not 72 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: that easy anymore. But no, I mean again, like they 73 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: were always genuine to me. They were always genuine my 74 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: family when I was there, you know, and Chris and Turning, 75 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: those guys that are still part of the front office. 76 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: Like we sat down and I went up to Cleveland 77 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: and had about an hour long conversation just about how 78 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I've I've grown up as an individual 79 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 3: and a baseball player as well. And yeah, I would 80 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: I would tell myself a lot of things if I 81 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: could go back to the you know, the twenty four 82 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: to twenty five year old whenever I debuted of things 83 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: that I know now. But at the same time, man like, 84 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: I feel like something in my career I've remember taking 85 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: it for granted, and you know again, having an opportunity 86 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: to go back there where I wish I would have 87 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: pitched in a lot more meaningful innings whenever they went 88 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: to the World Series and gosh, we could get back 89 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: to the World Series with Cleveland again, I mean that 90 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: would be just, you know, again. 91 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: A full circle moment. So it's super excited to go 92 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: back there. 93 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: What did you learn What did you learn last year 94 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: in Texas? Did they do something to change some things 95 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: that you were doing? Because you've all always been pretty good, 96 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: but last year, I mean you took another step. So 97 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: did you change your repertoire? Did you add a pitch? 98 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: Did you start throwing a knuckleball? 99 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: What did you change? 100 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: I think that, I mean the biggest thing adding a 101 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: sweeper obviously was was a big thing to the Arsenal. 102 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: But I think something that Jordan Tigu's I can't speak. 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: Highly enough about him, you know, being a first fear 104 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: bolking coach and now the pitching coach for the Rangers. 105 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: Something that he really instilled in all of his guys is, 106 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: you know, like being the own best version of yourself. 107 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: And he and he instilled confidencing guys that way. Like 108 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: the sweeper, Like you know, when I started throwing it 109 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: back in Tampa with the with the high induced vertical 110 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: break and other things, people we didn't really know what 111 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: it was. And he started doing a bunch of you know, 112 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: data driven stuff behind it and just like trust. 113 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: It, throw it, throw it, throw it, and put pressure 114 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: on me to throw that pitch in a bunch of 115 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: different situations. 116 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: And then you know, having you know Mad Dog as 117 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: a pitching coach, he would He used an example in 118 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: spring training. 119 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: I'm not going to use the exact verbiage that he 120 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: used in spring training. 121 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: But he said, pitch like a cab, right. You know, 122 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: He's like, he said, if you ever rode in a 123 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: cab in New York, it's heading the heading to the 124 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: front seat, heading to the back seat, heading to the window. 125 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: You're going left, right, forward, back. He's like, pitch that way. 126 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: And that's something that I feel like I've always kind 127 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: of done in my career, has been a little bit 128 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: predictable on the side of the arsenal that I was using. 129 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: And that's a challenge to myself to be in that 130 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty eight percent of of every pitch 131 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: that I've that I had in my arsenal, and if 132 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: I threw the same pitch twice, there better be a 133 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: good reason behind it. And that's just something that I 134 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: really challenged myself going into early season. And then you know, 135 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: Higgy Jonah, they bought into the philosophy behind me. And 136 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean, and honestly, I mean, when I stepped on 137 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: the mount last year, there was there really wasn't a 138 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: second guest. We were always on the same page. 139 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: You know. 140 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: My scouting reports went along with their scouting reports, and 141 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: it was just a really special blend. And that's something 142 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: that I'm looking forward to in Cleveland. So I've heard 143 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: nothing the great things about Naylor and Hegy, So I mean, 144 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: having those two guys behind the dish and the way 145 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: that they worked diligently with their UH pitching staff, I 146 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: feel like it's going to be a good mix too. 147 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: Sean is Cleveland talked you about starting because the only 148 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: team you've started for is the is the Race. So 149 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: every time we have a guy that is signed as 150 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: a reliever and we asked him, hey, did they talk 151 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: to you about starting? Luke Weaver the other day, Hey, 152 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: they talked to you about starting again. So have the 153 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: guardians talked to you about starting again? Because you have like, 154 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: what how many starts? You have eighteen career starts all 155 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: with the Rays. 156 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: They haven't mentioned it, but I mean, ironically, I'm adding 157 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: another pitch. I'm adding another pitch right now. So like 158 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: that's something that Carl said. He's like, you're going to 159 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: be one of the only you know, set up guys 160 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: in the big leagues, you know, with five different pitches. 161 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I mean, I don't I don't care 162 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: where I pitch. 163 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: Mean, obviously i'd be lying to you if I said 164 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be in leverage situations. I mean 165 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: that adrenaline that I get, you know, when you're going 166 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: out there in the seventh, eighth, ninth inning, when the 167 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: tie ball game or a lead, I mean, it's it's 168 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: it's unexplainable. So I mean I want to continue to 169 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: be in those roles. And but again, going to a 170 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: new team with a really good bullpen, you gotta go 171 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: earn it. So I mean, I think results will speak 172 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: for themselves, and you know, go out there and get 173 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: out and take the ball whenever they ask. And that's 174 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: really all I can do. The rest is up to 175 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: the you know, the coaching staff and all that. But 176 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: I don't care where I pitch, you know, if they 177 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: want to go out there and do thirty starts and 178 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: might have to increase the pay. 179 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: A little bit, but I'll do I'll do whatever they 180 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: want me to do. 181 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 5: Adding what pitch are you adding to your arsenal, old man, Sean. 182 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a seeker, So we'll see, 183 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: we'll see how it comes in spring training. But uh no, 184 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm more of it's kind of it's a it's a 185 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: similar variation of the kind of like the death change 186 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: up that people are calling it or the kick change. 187 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: It's just a it's a scene shifted weight variation where 188 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: Jordan Tie is working on it a little bit with 189 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: me in September and we've kind of dove into it 190 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: and really incorporated it into that ninety one hundred and 191 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: twenty feet to fill kind of the carry cut across 192 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: the ball, and so far on track, man, it's been 193 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: it's been pretty good. I mean, we want something. We 194 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: wanted something that was going to be below seven vert 195 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: and if I can get it below that with the 196 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: way my two scene four scene play and the way 197 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: that the sweeper is, the horizontal movement is kind of irrelevant, 198 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: but you know, the pullpins that I've thrown it and 199 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: it's been six bird out of the twenty three horizontal and 200 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: it's been it's been pretty good. So we'll see how 201 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: it plays whenever when a batter stands in the box. 202 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: But I'm getting comfortable with it now and it's not 203 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: something that I'm truly gonna focus on it's more of 204 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: something to pair with my force scene, to have the 205 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: vertical movement difference, and something to have to be able 206 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: to throw you know, below the zone to left handed. 207 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Batters as well. 208 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: But I mean, and bullpens is pretty fun to throw. 209 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: So we'll see how again, we'll see how it goes. 210 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Whenever a batter steps in the box. 211 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: Can you can you speak English for us non analytic 212 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 4: people like berts and horizontals and this and that, and 213 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: I'm just kidding people. People are gonna be like, what 214 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: the heck is he talking about? 215 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: If you don't know? 216 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: So you're this is what? So you're a bullpen all 217 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: off season guy. You don't take a break because you're 218 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: already talking about throwing bullpens and we're January fourteenth. You're 219 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 4: a one inning guy, man, Like, don't you want to 220 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 4: give your arm a little break? 221 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: And did wait a little bit? Are you just full 222 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: go all off season? 223 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I've tried it, and I've tried to where 224 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: you're taking four to six weeks off and then I 225 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: always kind of felt like I hit that dead arm 226 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: phase late in March early April, so you know, I 227 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: come home, I take you know, a week off of throwing, 228 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: and then I go into a two day you know 229 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: variation mixed with the mobility stuff, and then go to 230 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: four days a week in November, five days a week December, 231 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: six days a week January. And I'm throwing two bullpens 232 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: a week with a with a kind of an arc 233 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: long toss in between right now. But no, I mean, 234 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: I just found that, you know, keeping the arm moving 235 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: is better for me and for the routine and the 236 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: health standpoint. I feel better keeping it going and keeping 237 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: the body moving, and especially the older I'm getting, I'd 238 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: prefer to keep everything going instead of have to start 239 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: com odor up again from ground zero. So you know, 240 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 3: as far as like lifting and mobility and CARDI like, 241 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't really take any time off. I 242 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: feel like, you know, taking a little bit of time 243 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: off of the game intent is equally as beneficial as 244 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: taking completely everything off for a variation at the time. 245 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it makes total sense. I mean I 246 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: get it. 247 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: But who's your catcher who catches you because you're throwing 248 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: two bullpens a week? 249 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Who do we have? 250 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: All we had somebody on that long ago. They're like, oh, 251 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: I get cal Rawley to catch me in the off season. 252 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: Remember someone up in Seattle. It wasn't Schooball. Somebody was like, oh, 253 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: I just cal Rawley catches my bullpens in the off season. 254 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: So who do you get to catch your bullpens in 255 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: the off season. 256 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: Brian O'Keeffe actually catches my bullpens there in the offseason. 257 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: He's a triple A journeyman catcher. He's kind of been 258 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: between jobs right now, but he's been great to me 259 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: over the past three years. And then before that it 260 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: was Adam Schaeffer. He was in the Mariners organization. He 261 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: called me for a little while. But over the past three, 262 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: three four off seasons, it's been Brian O'Keeffe. He's been 263 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: catching me and a group of guys here in Raleigh, 264 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: North Carolina. 265 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Can you pay him? It's Raleigh, by the way, I 266 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that clip. Did you do 267 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: you pay him? Do you give him? Get him a 268 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: little something on the side. 269 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 4: How do you take care? Because you know pictures need 270 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: to start taking care of. 271 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Their catchers matter. Oh you said it right there. Man 272 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: always take care of the catchers. So of course I 273 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: always tip Bryan at the end of the year. 274 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 3: I mean he he comes in, I mean, i'd be 275 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: lying if he's not completely happy when he comes in. 276 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: He's a he's a grumpy old man. But hey, he 277 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: comes in there. He gives us positive feedback. When we 278 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: hang one, he tells us, you know, I knocked that 279 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: shit out of the ballparks. I mean, he's a good 280 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: candidate to have behind play here in the offseason. He 281 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: makes it funny, keeps it light, and you know, like 282 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: he's videoing us and receiving so like we can mix 283 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: some match video, all sorts of things. 284 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: So he's been great to me, He's been great to 285 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: all of us. 286 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: And so yeah, to answer your question, absolutely, we take 287 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: care of him at the end of the off season. 288 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: I believe it was Matt Boyd who was on our 289 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: show recently who said he throws to Riley, which would 290 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: make sense if Riley's up in Seattle at the time, 291 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: and then Boyd lives in the area there. Okay, I 292 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: want to go to the Rangers as a whole. What 293 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: did you observe from your spot last year that didn't 294 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: work for the team right? Why didn't they make the playoffs? 295 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: And what was the. 296 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: Team reaction when you know, there was talk during the 297 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: season about really, I don't even want to say it's 298 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: like clubhouse issues as much as there was a big 299 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: debate about how much guys hang out before the game 300 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: versus actually working on their own craft. 301 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm kind of indifferent when it comes to 302 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: that conversation, just just in regards to like, I mean, 303 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: Kratz can kind of speak to this something I played 304 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: with him, Like when I get to the ballpark, I have, 305 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: you know, an hour time before that, I hang out 306 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: with the guys, play cards, you know, stuff like that. 307 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: But after that, man, like I'm super routine oriented, so 308 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: you know, like it stretches at three thirty. I'm in 309 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: the training room at two, and then I'm in the 310 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: weighting room from two thirty to three thirty. And then 311 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: after that, you know, I'm back in the training room 312 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: after I get off the field, using modalities, doing different things, 313 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: and then I go to the wet room and doing contrasts, 314 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: and I go eat dinner. That's my time to kind 315 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: of hang out with the guys is when I'm eating, 316 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: and then you know, I'm locking a cage for nine innings. 317 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: I'm spending my time with the bullpen guys down there. 318 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: But you know, I think there's a lot of things 319 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: they get misconstrued in regards to clubhouses, especially whenever you're 320 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: only there for a short time, you know, specifically like 321 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: my time with Texas. 322 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, like my philosophy in that is like you have. 323 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: Superstars that become superstars, and you have superstars that become 324 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: all stars based on their routine and what they do 325 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: and what makes them different from the guy next to them. 326 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: I don't think that necessarily makes someone a bad teammate. 327 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: I think at the flip side of that too, you know, 328 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: like the baseball season is a roller coaster. There's a 329 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: lot of positives, there's a lot of negatives. If you 330 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: ride the emotional roller coaster, it's gonna be a long season. 331 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: And I can say that's one thing that as a clubhouse, 332 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: we didn't do last year. We didn't ride the ups 333 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 3: and downs like we still. You know, our job was 334 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: to go out there and win baseball games. That's what 335 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: we try to do. It didn't the outcome, didn't you know, 336 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: see what we were trying to do from the start 337 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: of spring training, but I never really got the gist 338 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: that there was, you know, a bad juju, you know, 339 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: I was. 340 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: Those guys made me. 341 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: Probably one of the most comfortable that I've been in 342 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: the clubhouse in my career from day one. I mean, 343 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to spring training at grom and even for 344 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: my locker buddies, that's who I'm between, and I'm like, 345 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's all my life. 346 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm kind of. 347 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: Like google out a little bit because these are two 348 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: guys I've looked up to my whole career, you know, 349 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, like they're just 350 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: as much of a clown as the rookie next to me. 351 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: But you know, but they keep it that way and 352 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: make guys feel comfortable in that regarding and you guys 353 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: know how it is in clubhouse. Man, Like the pitching 354 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: staff and the position players. There's a little bit of 355 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: separation between those two, you know, like we're on two 356 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: different schedules. Meetings are different, VP's different, you know, our 357 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: stretch times are different. And then when you know after 358 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: the game, you know, when you have an older team 359 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: for the vast majority like that, especially at home, you know, 360 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: like I spend my time in the ballpark from one 361 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: point thirty to eleven o'clock. You know, I'm going home 362 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: to see to see my kids, you know, because even 363 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: if it's eleven o'clock, my son still wants to go 364 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: home and play baseball in the living room wherever we 365 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: may be. So that time is, you know, like it's 366 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: valuable to me, and I think it's very valuable to 367 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: the rest of the guys there that have kids as well. Now, 368 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: I say, like Marcus sendmeon on the road last year, 369 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: phenomenal job of trying to get guys together for group dinners, 370 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: go out for a beer, whatever it may be. You know, 371 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: I mean I was I think I missed one last 372 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: year that sent me and asked us to go to So, 373 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a phenomenal guy there. 374 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: He did a great job with that. 375 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: But just like playing rids, man, we have card tables, 376 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: you know, you have guys that are playing video games. 377 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: You have guys that are reading books. You have guys 378 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: that are doing whatever it is they may be doing. 379 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: So you still have your little groups and niches. But 380 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: I think as a whole man, I thought I thought 381 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: we were a pretty close group. Everyone kind of leaned 382 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: on one another, even whenever some misaps and things happened. 383 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: But again I think sometimes, you know, with the media, 384 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: like everything else, a lot of things kind of get 385 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: miss like misconcepted, especially if you're a guy that hasn't 386 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: been there, you know, the entire time, and you do 387 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: come in and see the rough patch. 388 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah you can, you can kind of get that vibe. 389 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: But again I think that, you know, can there be 390 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: closer things to be done in a clubhouse? Sure, you know, 391 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, yes, you know, there is some 392 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: like but in every clubhouse there's clicks. That's just how 393 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: it is. But again, I think that, you know, when 394 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: you have as many superstars and veterans that were on 395 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: that team last year, you know, everyone has the routine 396 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: and everyone sticks to the routine. And but when we 397 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: were scuffling, nobody pantied. But at some point in time 398 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: there is some change that's needed. And I think that 399 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: that's kind of what see Y and Ross and those 400 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: guys are doing this past offseason to try and get 401 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: that team back to the World Series. 402 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: I played with you, but your pregame routine before, when 403 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: you were in Columbus, I wore a Columbus Clippers hat 404 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 5: just for you. Today it was there was Hackey sack. 405 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: Do you do you steal Hacky sack or your your 406 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 5: old bones just not working the same as they used to, grats. 407 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, men, when I was in Tampa, 408 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: we Hackey sacked every single day before the game. 409 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: That was kind of like our our like warm up stuff. 410 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: We did it every day on the field as a 411 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: bullpen and you know, like being a part of that 412 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: bullpen for four years. That was the closest group that 413 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: I ever haven't been a part of. With Tampa didn't 414 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: hacky sack much. In Texas. We did more of a 415 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: lot of football routes, a lot of football throws as 416 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: far as the pitching staff goes. 417 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: But again, even though we. 418 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: Didn't Hacky sack, we were still a really really close 419 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: group and that those those young guys will always kind 420 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: of hold a special piece to me. I'll say, young guys. 421 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: Chris Martin's old like I am. But those guys were 422 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: great man, and you know, like, but yeah, we still 423 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: hackey sacked in Tampa, and we kept it for four 424 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 3: years and didn't hacky sack much last year. 425 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: Though, Okay, Chris Martin's got that gray gray hair too. 426 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: By the way, he's like. 427 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: A guy got a little some he's full gray on top, 428 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 4: so he's not that old. So I don't know what happened, 429 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 4: but you guys wanst have Hacky sacked him run into 430 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: gray hair. 431 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: Well, he's got four kids in a full cattle ranch. 432 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: He's trying to run, So I'd probably be great headed 433 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: too if I was trying. 434 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: To keep up for all that and play baseball. Good point, good, 435 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: good point, good point. All right, Well, how did you 436 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: like Rowdy? Tells? 437 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: What'd you think of Rowdy? 438 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Tells? Loved him? Look good? 439 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: Because if you because we had him on yesterday and 440 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 4: he was saying how much he hates pitchers and especially 441 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: relieved pitchers, and how I can't say that now they're 442 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 4: no fun. Yeah, So no, we have Rowdy on all 443 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: the time, so I was hoping, actually you would say 444 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: he was terrible so we could just play this clip 445 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: for him all the time. So we're gonna have just 446 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: say terrible, and then we'll edit it to where it 447 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: says that you said he was terrible as the team. 448 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: The funny thing about me and Rowdy last year we 449 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: actually like got into it like a little bit on 450 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: the plane ride and everybody thought we were super serious 451 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: and we weren't at all. You know, like we came 452 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: in and I hugged him afterwards, and he and he'd 453 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: made it was kind of a running joke after that, 454 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: and I'd come into it. I'd come in after the 455 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: game and didn't pitch that day. He's like, you didn't 456 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: do shit today. And then he'd come in after a game. 457 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: And I pitched that day, He's like, about time you worked. 458 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: And then I started giving it back to him because 459 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: he started like d H and late in the game 460 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: and like if he would like pop out or something 461 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: like that, I'm like, you did't shit today, you know, 462 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: like this was just kind of a running joke between 463 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: the two of us. 464 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: So, but no, he's a great man, I can't. You know. 465 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: I thought he was very good for our clubhouse when 466 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: we brought him in, and no matter what the circumstance 467 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: or anything they asked him to do, he always did 468 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: it without a complaint. 469 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pros to proto man. 470 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: So I'm still I'm still waiting for my invite to 471 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: go deer hunting with him. But that's a that's a 472 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: conversation for another time. 473 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: True true you know rowdy, rowdy can't hunt. We all 474 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: know that. 475 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: Him and him and Jock yelling at each other back 476 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 4: and forth though was also awesome, each of them calling 477 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 4: the other one fat, which I heard of as that 478 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 4: was great because you're like, wait what anyways? 479 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: All right, you went to ECU. 480 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: You live in Raleighah. Now, as Chad Ocho Sinko so 481 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: eloquently called it on a show the other day, not 482 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: Raleigh Raleah because that's how you say it. But my 483 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 4: son is playing college baseball and he is traveling to 484 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: ECU to play this year. Is there any place that 485 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: I need to make sure that I hit while I'm 486 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: in ECU? 487 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: Sub Dogs Subdogs a bar is a local. Yes, it's 488 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: literally how s up Dogs. They're famous for hot dogs 489 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: and hamburgers, but you can get them any way you want. 490 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: Their sub crushes are phenomenal if you're into drinking a 491 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: little bit of a subdog vodka that they created their 492 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: own brand. But yeah, that's that's one of the That's 493 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: a college staple in in Greenville, North Carolina. It's right 494 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: there on campus, so it's a it's a good spot. 495 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: You can go there and watch any game you want. 496 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: To go to. 497 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: But Subdogs is is definitely a staple in Greenville, North Carolina. 498 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Do they have vegan hot dogs? 499 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: Because AJ only it's vegan hot dogs. 500 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. 501 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you'll fit in very well in 502 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 3: Greenville if you're even being hot dogs. 503 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: So okay, all do what you believe. 504 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: If you believe that, Sean, don't don't believe that, and 505 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: he's definitely not taking you. 506 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: Hunting well, Sean, this was awesome. Thanks for the time. 507 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. We love talking to guys, you know, 508 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: about their signing experience, and the off season is a 509 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: good time to get some extended time. So thanks for 510 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: doing this. So you yeah, we'll catch in spring training 511 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: or you know, maybe you'll get a phantom callar text 512 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: from AJ when he's. 513 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I don't mean at the end of spring training, so. 514 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: It's at the end of okay, so we'll report back. 515 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, get my number from Gratzy and and if you 516 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: go there, seriously let me not let me know what 517 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: you think about it. 518 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 4: If I do I get a free meal, if I 519 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 4: mentioned your name or is that only good for Trey 520 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: you Savage? 521 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: I think if you go there and mentioned Harold Varner, 522 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: the third, the golfer. 523 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: I know Harold very well. 524 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll get that'll get your free mill. 525 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do much for you there, but Harold 526 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: Varner will definitely get your free Okay. 527 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: Boom, there you go, Sean, good stuff man. 528 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of the off season. Thanks guys, I 529 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it.