WEBVTT - Real Women Have Curves: Harsh & Dresses

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<v Speaker 1>Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi. I'm Sienna

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<v Speaker 1>Jacole and I'm Leanna Holsten, and welcome to Toss Popcorn,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where two idiots watched every film on the

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<v Speaker 1>AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of All Time, the

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<v Speaker 1>very slightly less Racist tenth Anniversary edition, And we are

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<v Speaker 1>now watching movies directed by women, Sorry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast is a safe sweatshop factory, summer factory coming

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<v Speaker 2>of age for people who don't know anything about movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're watching Real Women Have Curves. Good warning, there

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<v Speaker 2>will be spoilers about this sweaty old film.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Mm hmm that's r m hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh a content warning. We will be discussing a body image,

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<v Speaker 2>the concept of bodies, fatness, fat phobia, phobia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's two thousand and two. It's two thousand and two, baby, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so get ready yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm Sienna, had you seen this before?

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<v Speaker 1>I had? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, then in that case, please could I hear

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<v Speaker 2>your prediction for the movie Real Women Have Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. Also, I have to tell you something that

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<v Speaker 1>I realized after this prediction. I realized something. Oh great, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, Leanna, I'm about to watch real women

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<v Speaker 1>have curves. Also, this is Sienna. I saw this movie

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, and I love America Ferrera and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember really enjoying it. I think it made me cry. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look forward to watching it again. Maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>remember some stuff. I think that she's like wants to

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<v Speaker 1>leave town and maybe her family works like a factory.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they make jeans?

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know what you realize, Probably there's just jeans

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie. Well, no, you know, can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see it again. See what we think? I love you, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you thinking of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants?

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<v Speaker 1>I seem to combine them in my mind because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the clothing was part of it. That it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wear these clothes, but like this, I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>these clothes and yet I could never wear them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I was afterwards, I was like, jeans, I

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<v Speaker 1>am thinking of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm picturing her looking at jeans. Yeah. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about that, but I was close. Otherwise, Leanna, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear your for this film.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here it is. I Sienna, it's Leanna. I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to watch real women have curves. I predict I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like early two thousands energy around the concept of a

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<v Speaker 2>female body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it probably was revolutionary at the time, but it

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<v Speaker 2>might be annoying now, love you bye, you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it. Mm hmm. But on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Mexican bitches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so Mexican American. And is it Catholic this time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. Because the weird Christian Cheeto movie

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<v Speaker 1>they made it weirdly Protestant. It was to be beloved

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<v Speaker 1>by people who I do not connect with, but this

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<v Speaker 1>one was for me. And can I tell you something,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember something about what. I watched this for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, and I watched it. I wonder how much

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<v Speaker 1>of this will be capable. I think it's okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched first when I was for some reason home. My

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<v Speaker 1>family was gone, which very rarely happened. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were traveling for some reason. I had to stay home

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<v Speaker 1>for some school thing. I think it was my the

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<v Speaker 1>summer after senior year for me. Oh, I'm really I

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<v Speaker 1>was apped, but I was home and I was I

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<v Speaker 1>My grandma had just like taken a fall or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was one of the people like hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with my grandma and making sure she was all good

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<v Speaker 1>and it was me and my t o and oh

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of guilt that was thrown my way. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, Sienna, you can go home now because

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take care of her. You know, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do today, but I'll do it. And I'm like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do it, and they're like, no, You've done enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like I was here for two days straight,

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<v Speaker 1>like is that not enough? And it's like it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have to go do your things anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>have fun, Sienna. And also you said you want underwear

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<v Speaker 1>shopping sweat. That's like I love my family, but let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you I will. While watching this, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like this is cultural, this generation, generations, the guilt, the

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<v Speaker 1>weird like purity thing but like we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be married, but like, also, you're supposed to be pure

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like you can feel it. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to talk to my mom about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my mom because I'm sure she feels

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<v Speaker 1>it even more being like yeah, yeah, anyway, but I

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching it at a time where I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I can I'm really experiencing my family in it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not usually the like main point person, but being

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<v Speaker 1>like the eldest daughter who was home when no one

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<v Speaker 1>else was, I was like, wow, my god, Wow, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this feels I can feel it. I can

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<v Speaker 1>feel Yeah, whoa, anyway, that's a fun little fact. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so this movie is pretty much is in many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I don't have anybody in my

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<v Speaker 1>family as heinous as her mom.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh my god, her mom was so oh she sucked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>her mom sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>That was crazy. Oh god, I really want to k

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<v Speaker 1>about this movie. But first, yeah, hey girl, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey girl. What's up.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get left behind at a party last night?

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<v Speaker 2>There was something about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, I textedly on and I was like, can

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<v Speaker 1>we just do it just a little bit later because

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<v Speaker 1>I just And by the way, that extra half hour

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<v Speaker 1>was exactly what I needed makes all the difference, it

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<v Speaker 1>really does. But no, it was fine. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a party with people I would I

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<v Speaker 1>was tagging along to a party. I knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of their party, and I was attending, So I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that there was a world in which I would

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<v Speaker 1>go earlier because like my roommate, for example, it's her graduation,

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<v Speaker 1>like she should hang out with her friends and stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we were all leaving, they were all like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to stay long. I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you will, but I bet you will. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good time. I'm glad I went. I had fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the ride home, I was like, that's fine, guys, like,

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<v Speaker 1>have fun. It's your graduation. I'm I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>an uber home. It's been like probably a year since

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<v Speaker 1>I've taken an Uber. This Uber driver was crazy. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and normally I'm like, literally, you're driving someone around all

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<v Speaker 1>night like whatever, Like I don't really care about much.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have high standards for what an Uber ride is.

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<v Speaker 1>But this person was driving so fast. Oh. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, this could be when I die. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a point where I was wondering, like is

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<v Speaker 1>he mad at me? Did I do something? This just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like the way that you drive unless you're

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<v Speaker 1>making a point or try to cheap. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>teach somebody a lesson type of vibe. But yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is just how this person drives and that's freaking insane. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I got so carsick and was really like, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I should worry about my life at some point. And

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<v Speaker 1>also I was like, is he gonna get mad because

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<v Speaker 1>he knows that I know that this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>good ride. It was so weird, so awkward. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I got home and my tummy hurts so much and

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<v Speaker 1>I ate a big chicken sandwich and fries because my

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<v Speaker 1>roommate went out of town and he was like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take this? And I was sandwich and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to I got to eat it. Oh. So

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<v Speaker 1>it saved my life. I felt so much better and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to bed alive.

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<v Speaker 2>The sandwich that saved my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sandwich saved my life. Yeah. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long long time since I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>a yeah, inexperienced like that. Leanna, hey girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey girl, oh girl. I was in Brighton for the

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<v Speaker 2>past two weekends. Brighton, which is by the sea, oh

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<v Speaker 2>the south uka down by the seaside doing they have

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<v Speaker 2>the Brighton Fringe Festival for the month of May, so

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who are going up to Edinburgh

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<v Speaker 2>in August will take their shows and work on them

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<v Speaker 2>in Brighton, And we went on two Sundays in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the second Sunday, my Sweet Sweet Split Bill

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<v Speaker 2>partner and I were both unexpectedly hungover. No, and before

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<v Speaker 2>the show, which is at one in the afternoon, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to do a lap around the town with our

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<v Speaker 2>poster telling people that we're doing a stand up comedy

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<v Speaker 2>show in an hour and please would they come and

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<v Speaker 2>you can scan the QR code to buy tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>it's at this venue around the corner in one hour.

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<v Speaker 2>And we survived that. At one point Michael said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I can never feel this way again. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>got to our venue and it turned out so we

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<v Speaker 2>had stopped by the box office for the bright and

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<v Speaker 2>Fringe the week before, and Michael happened to know the

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<v Speaker 2>person who was working at the box office and was like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing a show at one forty five. If you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like telling anybody, let him know. It turns out

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<v Speaker 2>they told the chair of the festival, who then came

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<v Speaker 2>to see our show. We meet this guy. We're both

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<v Speaker 2>so hungover. After our lap of postering speaking to strangers

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<v Speaker 2>in the sun, I was about to ask get into

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<v Speaker 2>the makes it so much worse. It makes much of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it was sunny. We get into the venue and he

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<v Speaker 2>introduces himself and he says, oh, I'm the chair of

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<v Speaker 2>the Festival and we both go oh hello, Not really,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's coming to the show. Three minutes beforehand

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<v Speaker 2>we find out he's in the bar of that venue

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<v Speaker 2>because he's seeing our show. So I duck into the

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<v Speaker 2>venue where just Michael and I are setting up, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say, the Chair of the Festival is coming to

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<v Speaker 2>our show.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sick for you. I feel I feel hungover

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And do you know what? It went so well?

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<v Speaker 1>I bet it did? It went really well. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we really pulled it out. We did it and

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<v Speaker 2>we are thinking about doing Sober Fringe for Edinburgh Susk.

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<v Speaker 1>God it was too much. Oh so funny. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>that that you can do one thing, if Leonna can

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, it's pull it together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Want heritage business done? You're like, well it's businessess done,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna turn time for businesslf.

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<v Speaker 2>Off Yeah yeah, yeah, special skills get business done. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting business.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of you. Congratulations, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. It was a really fun show, really fun day.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we ate so much Tai food after all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Leanna, can you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>I can, but it's very faint, okay, you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of I mean that's helicopters are classic La and speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of La.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of La and helicopter parents kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>And being kind of near the downtown Sienna, could you

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<v Speaker 2>please give us a synopsis of the film Real Women

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<v Speaker 2>Have Curves?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I can do that. Here I go, Real

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<v Speaker 1>Women Have Curves. There's a lot of pressure on Anna

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer following high school. Her teacher wants her

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<v Speaker 1>to apply for college, but her family needs help at

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<v Speaker 1>the dress factory. Anna's mom is pretty heinous to her,

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<v Speaker 1>stressing about Anna's weight, purity, and allegiance to her family. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Anna likes this white boy who is highly sensual, but

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<v Speaker 1>also highlights that he has a completely different life than her,

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<v Speaker 1>her being a Mexican American girl with no financial cushion

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<v Speaker 1>and real freedom and him being just a white boy

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<v Speaker 1>who's kind of bored. But they have a very They

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<v Speaker 1>have a very cute time. But in the end, girls

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<v Speaker 1>who slay find a Way the end yay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh that white boy, that skinny white boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. There's an undercurrent of the fact that she just

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<v Speaker 1>like there's certain things she can't do because her family

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<v Speaker 1>just has to be working all the time. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>has a specific experience of la being Mexican and like

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<v Speaker 1>she's the first going to high schol Beverly Hills. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like very she's precocious, but the first you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her family, her mom is just very limited and is

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<v Speaker 1>like in terms of what she thinks a life should be,

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<v Speaker 1>and she clearly has a lot of insecurity and pain

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<v Speaker 1>herself from her own life, and she's like inflicting it

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<v Speaker 1>on her daughter. Now, it's a really complex mother daughter

0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.400
<v Speaker 1>relationship that I think they captured well. But it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to watch. Yeah, and then also there's an

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<v Speaker 1>undercurrent of that and an overcurrent of her being fat

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of how the movie talks, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, she's mid sized.

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<v Speaker 2>But this in two thousand and two, Oh Sienna, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into our phone notes, the segment of the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>where we read the notes that the other person took

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<v Speaker 2>on their phone. Oh Sienna, your first note that you've

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<v Speaker 2>highlighted is last time I watched this, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know this was La.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy to think about. I remember watching it

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<v Speaker 1>the first time and kind of taking in. I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really think about I didn't really process what city

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<v Speaker 1>they were in. But now I just like have seen

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<v Speaker 1>all these streets so much. It's crazy. And the AUNI

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<v Speaker 1>you have said, Wow, I do not miss La. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is really funny the shots they're showing. I really

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, like, wow, this city is disgusting. That her

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<v Speaker 1>showing her like neighborhoods and the Mexican neighborhoods and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that that was cool and nice and everything, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they had shots of her driving to school mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>and the shots of the skyline it is so smoggy

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<v Speaker 1>and disgusting and hot. It's just like, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>an appealing place to be. This is a place you just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cementwhere so much concrete.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I I while watching it, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy with my life right now, and I've come

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<v Speaker 1>to terms with La and and I get the parts

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<v Speaker 1>that are cool about it. But even watching this, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I have no real love for this place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, is your mother chasing you around, insulting you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry. We'll be back in three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to distract you more. Okay, yeah, we got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. This is not this happens in so many movies.

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<v Speaker 1>You said Columbia taking applications in June for fall semester.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>The last day of school, he's like, should you can

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<v Speaker 1>you apply to college? And she's like yeah. The last

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<v Speaker 1>day of school, he says, my CLI for Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, oh, what are you doing for college? She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going. He's like, but I know the dean

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<v Speaker 2>of Columbia you do. I mean I guess like a

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<v Speaker 2>super rich Beverly Hills school maybe, but not in June

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<v Speaker 2>of the same year you had to commit by May first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, girl, you're talking about Oh my god. Maybe things

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<v Speaker 1>were different a little bit, but yeah, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>also the kind of Later she's like, I only applied

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<v Speaker 1>to Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is also where I'm like, I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>when she got into Colombia. I was like, slay, But also,

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<v Speaker 2>why what do you mean I didn't think we were

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<v Speaker 2>seeing like, oh, prodigious behaviors from the she she kind

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<v Speaker 2>of was just a teen, right, I mean we get

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<v Speaker 2>that she's like smart, right, but right, we mean that

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<v Speaker 2>must have been a hell of a personal statement. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it just wasn't, like I guess because college admissions in

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<v Speaker 2>the US are so like you have to have been

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<v Speaker 2>an astronaut by the age of sixteen to be considered

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<v Speaker 2>for admission, that it was like, well, but what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>What's her thing that they're like, Oh, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>make room for this student, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't really even say like, but you're an amazing writer. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's no, he doesn't. She's a good student.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I felt. I felt, from my small viewpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was interested in what she was condemning culturally,

0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the curses, the generational curses she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to break. M Also, I think it's a I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I commend this film. It's a vulnerable thing from a

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<v Speaker 1>position of like a marginalized community, to like put your

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<v Speaker 1>culture on blast a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that they did a good job

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<v Speaker 1>of like both loving her culture and also being like mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to move on and like find what works

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.960
<v Speaker 1>for me, mm hmmm, because you're being crazy. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>love we found out you slowly find out that her

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<v Speaker 1>mom is like insane, especially like not just in that

0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.520
<v Speaker 1>there are some things like she thinks she's pregnant, which

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<v Speaker 1>is actually crazy but actually kind of sad that she's

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<v Speaker 1>so very uneducated about her own body. But later when

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<v Speaker 1>the other ladies are like, girl, calm down, like your

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<v Speaker 1>daughter's not ugly, and she's like, why what are you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an angry witch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she really was an angry witch.

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<v Speaker 1>Leanna. You said, you said, maybe we could hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to go. Every time I ask someone out

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 1>he says maybe I can hang out or maybe yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, So anything about oh forever, oh, permanently

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<v Speaker 2>out of my life?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought maybe like for an hour on another day. Note,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I should kill myself. Oh you're okay, we'll never

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<v Speaker 2>speak again. That's not I don't know that it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be one or that either.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello or hello hello. Oh my god. Wait, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Leoni. You said, look at this insane

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<v Speaker 1>computer program I found on the web. Oh computer program

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<v Speaker 1>computer which is Spanish swear words.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like Google Translate. He finds Google Translate.

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<v Speaker 1>What program is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's an early version of Google Translate. Look at

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<v Speaker 2>this insane computer program I found.

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<v Speaker 1>On the web. Calling it the web is so a

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<v Speaker 1>period piece. This is such a period piece. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>On a landline, a corded phone landline about an insane

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.600
<v Speaker 2>computer program you found on the web.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, took me back. It is such a period piece.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel about their little relationship or this boy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he was really skinny, very physically frail,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was surprised that they went from four tongueless

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<v Speaker 2>kisses to full sex. She was rearing to go, which

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, respect she was ready. She was like I've

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<v Speaker 2>missed something, additional things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she's like, never call me again. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty slag about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I thought it was I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>unbearable to watch at the beginning, and then it won

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 2>me over because I thought their sex scene was very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were a little bit more like cute and

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<v Speaker 1>respectful to each other than they had to be for

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And that that's when you go, oh, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>this is directed by women.

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<v Speaker 2>Directed by a woman. Yeah, that's how you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>like I really appreciated that they were laughing together meet

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 2>during their their actual sex scene. They just seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with each other. They seemed to like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Hats just seemed to like have things in comp like

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<v Speaker 2>they enjoyed, Yeah, spending time together.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree again, that's when things are directed by women.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, there's just more of that that felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a human interaction. To me. It was like, oh, I.

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Think their relationship probably felt the most human of maybe

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that and her and her grandpa. Those two dynamics felt

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<v Speaker 2>the most. Like, Yeah, I'm getting I've seen this on

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:17.959
<v Speaker 2>planet Earth before.

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<v Speaker 1>The things I still think were cool and like felt revolutionary.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't feel like the right word, but like felt different

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<v Speaker 1>from what you see. Is when they did strip down

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<v Speaker 1>because they were all so sweaty, I'm like, yeah, okay,

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I really love all these women of different ages and

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<v Speaker 1>different body types. Just like non sexually giggling in their underwear. Yes, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a very something you do not see in

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<v Speaker 1>any movie.

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<v Speaker 2>No, non sexual giggling is really not allowed from women

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<v Speaker 2>on the film.

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<v Speaker 1>In their undies. It was just cute.

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 2>So there was so sweet. I kind of I teared

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<v Speaker 2>up a little bit at that scene. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would have cried if I could, you know, were I

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 2>off my meds, then I would be crying.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I guess the all the stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>like the conceit of the the name of the film

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<v Speaker 1>itself speaks to your time when you have to like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's putting other women down the name of

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the title, right, Like yeah, but I was thinking about it,

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and first of all, that's so of the time, and

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>again like unfortunately that was a necessary part of probably

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 1>what we've got. We're now proudly in the time of

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 1>body neutrality, the body neutrality movement. But I think unfortunately

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two, literally you had to be like, Okay,

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>well not everybody's a skinny girl like that, so fuck you.

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Women of full body sizes are also beautiful, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know what real women look like me Like, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>totally was a necessary part of moving towards like you

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<v Speaker 1>know it it was a negative time towards women.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like this movie feels like an important feature

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 2>on the timeline of the body movement, Like if you

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 2>were making a timeline and included like social and like

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>socio political things that happened that moved the needle forward.

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>This should be on it.

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the two thousand and two mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's just also so funny. I'm sorry

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>when she's like, oh my babes are enormous, she looks amazing.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that this smoking hot babe is questioning her

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 2>body in front of this little boy is highly comical.

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>It was so comical. I know that there's everybody's complex

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.439
<v Speaker 1>feelings about their bodies. We still live in a society

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah, but like.

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy to hear huge boobs be spoken about

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>in a derogatory way. I did not remember that that

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was the time we had two.

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Thousand and two. Is insane, Like youw you have more

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>body that looks amazing T shirts she looked, And again

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make it all about looks, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. She was a smoking hot babe and this

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>little scrawny boy's like, you're beautiful, You're not fat, you're beautiful.

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh there it was. There was the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, everybody take a shot.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>He said it, you're not fat, you're beautiful.

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, no, two things can be true. Excuse me,

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I I truly that was the biggest moment where I

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, we have progressed because I forgot that

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>people genuinely would say you're not fat. It's like, no,

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I am, but that does not cancel out the fact

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 2>that I also am beautiful. Yeah, which is I mean,

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 2>we're still confirmed where we haven't not everybody has.

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, Oh my god, that's right.

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>What's going on in LA? Is everybody skinny over there?

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Yea dude, Wow, Lehana, I have to read some of

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>your notes about her mom. You said, well, you said

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>her mom is her sleep paralysis demon. Oh my god.

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 1>She keeps like sneaking into her room and being like,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant. Wake up, I'm pregnant. You're my god,

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, I hate you.

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>You've said if you don't like your ugly kids, then

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe don't be ugly yourself. Again. Sadly, I think this

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is how people work, where they're literally like you're fat,

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you're ugly, and it's like stock that's how.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel about yourself. You're just externalizing your insecurities, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you're ugly. That's not my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>I can okay, can we get that straight. It's not

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>my fault you're ugly. I know you want to blame me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but you're ugly and you hate yourself. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing my own.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, Leanna. You also noted that her mom said you're

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<v Speaker 1>not only fat, now you're a puta. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mom is so much. She is so mean. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't use this term life, but she was a bitch,

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what a.

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:11.959
<v Speaker 2>She was really horrible. I was like it. It almost

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 2>was as if the mom would have been better, the

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>character of the mom would have been better if it

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<v Speaker 2>was instead like an externalization of her inner monologue. Like

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 2>it felt like no one. I've never seen anyone be

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>that mean to someone else. I have seen people talk

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that meanly to themselves.

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 1>She's relentlessly cruel, yeah, like unflaggingly. So yeah.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the issue that I had with that character

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>is we don't see any arc to her.

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>It's tough. I mean, I don't know. I kind of didn't.

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. My brother just saw the musical version

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>of this in New York and he said at the

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>end he didn't know there's a musical. Yeah, maybe it's

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>closing this weekend or something, but that one does have

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>redemption for the mom, and he said it actually felt worse.

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And maybe it's just my white ass wanting like

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a happy and comfortable ending or something, and my white

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 2>American ass.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I think having been lucky to have. I mean, I

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>just don't want people's parents to be this horrible. Yeah,

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it's nice to watch. Also that if I hadn't already

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>known that this would be the ending, that's probably the

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>main thing for me of why it wasn't so upsetting

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>for me. But I don't like that either. I don't

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>like when they end not it's just like that's that's terrible. Yeah.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I her mom doesn't even say goodbye to her at

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the end. She's just too I know. But it's really like,

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I think part of what the movie is saying, and

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>again it makes sense to be in play form, is

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>like you can't wait to be understood or wait to

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>be accepted by a certain people in your life, certain

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>societal expectations and stuff like, you just kind of gotta.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Just just just you gotta, I gotta do my life,

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you gotta, I gotta do my life.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>She's gotta do her life. Uh, Leona, your last note is, girl,

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you need to get uptown. Wait, you need to get

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>uptown stacked. You are going to be late for class. Yeah,

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>she's walking through Times Square.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>She's at the TKTS booth. I'm like, girl, you need

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to get to the Upper west Side. You are nowhere

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>near your college's campus. Do you have to finish one

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty five dresses? Start stamen, We'll be right back.

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I loved her outfit at the Oh, well that I

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>can say that for bades.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I liked her hair.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's move on to badges and trages, where we award

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>badges for body neutrality and tradges for.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Treating your daughter like shit. This was a bad mom.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Sorry my gosh, yeah, mom, uh huh. She was so dramatic.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I have to agree. I have a badge for corded phones.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I love I love a cord. I love to twist

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 2>a chord while I'm gossiping with my girlies on the phone.

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I do miss that about the past.

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I have a badge for all of her outfits. I

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this was supposed to be her well, no,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>she just wears really cute T shirts. Again, she looks

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>amazing in T shirts, and all of her little tea's

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and stuff were so twenty twenty five chic. And then

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>her last outfit when she's like walking through New York

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and her brown coat and her I really wasn't joying

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>her outfits. I would have worn any of them. I

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have looked as good as that.

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I liked the one she wore to the movies. Yeah,

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>or on her first date. I forgot. She didn't go

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>to the movies, right, She went to meet up with

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>a boy because she's a slot. That's a badge for

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>a badge for On that date, she says to the boy,

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I made this list of things to talk about so

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that we wouldn't run out of things to talk about.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>And that is so something I would do. I on

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>dates or things I thought were dates, have said, my

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>greatest fear is running out of things to talk about.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>She's so real badge for that. This movie loved La.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not my favorite place, but it was really it

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>was really thrown ass for La. Yeah, I mean it

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>was really really showing the city and also like Mexican La.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true, that's very true. Yeah. I liked that

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>that that little boy that she's dating always came to

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>her neighborhood. Yes, he was because he has a car,

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>because they family gave him a car.

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't interested.

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Boy that he's weird confront his privilege. Neither of them

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>seemed to Yeah a badge for Okay. That kiss was cute.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Their first kiss I thought was very sweet.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they were cute. This was again it

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>was a romance written by a woman and you Caneah, Yeah,

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was chill. It was a chill romance page. For

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>George Lopez, I'm sorry I imprinted on him at a

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>young age, and I'm always happened to see him, even

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>when he's playing an insane role like this and acting

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>only okay, only a little, but I'll still be happy

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to see him always. It's so funny that it's like

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a movie with Mexican people. Okay, George, get in.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>There, come on, George badge four. Yes, during their sex

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>scene when they are able to just be laughing and

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>relaxed with one another, they were just so relaxed.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were relaxed. I loved that she was a

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>chiller badge for her. Grandpa is such a homie. I

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>thought he was gonna die. I was convinced he was

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>going to die because he was just so old. Well,

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're old and nice and like the anvolent, normally

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that means you're going to die. To move the protagonist's platforward,

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:33.239
<v Speaker 1>like in Moana, Oh my God, Yeah, but he he

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>When she wants to hang out with a boy, she

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just can tell her grandpa and then he because he

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>trusts her and he respects her.

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he's he's still I couldn't believe he was

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about a treasure in the Sierra Madre. I can't

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>prospector vibes. Then my final badge is a badge for it.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 2>This movie is I think revolutionary in its way because

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>that scene where they're all just like hanging out in

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>their bra and underwear because it's so hot and they

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>have to get the work done. I was like, even today, no,

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 2>you don't see that, this would still be groundbreaking.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It would just like women of different ages and body

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>types and they're all poc like.

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Also, just like the concept of people being comfortable in their.

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Body and they're comfortable at work and comfortable in their honests. Yeah,

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>badge for her mom. She is insane. She's not a

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>good mother. But I think that this woman is a

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>comedy genius and I would love to see her in

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>more comedic roles because I have a badge for her

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>mom's blank look. In response to honest saying that women

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 1>have thoughts, she like goes over when they had talked

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>about like, oh, she had sex before the wedding and

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>then he just left her at the altar because she

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>had sex. And then she's like, mom, I think that

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it's fine and women should be able to like do

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>what they want. And her mom is like eating this pastry,

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>just staring at her, like what the what and her face,

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>her blank stare is so funny. Yeah, this woman is

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a great actress. It's too bad, yes play Apparently she

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>also is the one who kills Selena in the Selena movie.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so.

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 1>She's always playing a Mexican villain. Hell yeah, villainy badge

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>for the line manches me. Do you remember this? The

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it means I love gossip.

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>My love is gossip. Okay, Okay, I knew that.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't confident. The old woman. There's one old

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>woman who works at the who works Maybe it's the

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>mom but she's so they did you watch the end

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>credit scenes. Yeah, she's the old woman in it. Who's

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the one who's singing opera. Yes, yes, she's the oldest woman.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>But they're talking about like gossip and whatever, and she's like,

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I love gossip. It's so funny. Yeah. And then uh,

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>final badge for just I love Anna. This movie is

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's two thousand and two. But she just like

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>she just is cool. She's a cool girl. And badge

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>for there's just certain commentary that I really appreciate and enjoyed.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>And yes, and they're sweet things that are just like

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like when her mom when she hurt her hand and

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>she goes Sna, Sanna, Sanna, Sana. That's yeah, was the

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>thing in my household growing up. Oh oh that's really cute. Yeah.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I love hearing that. That's always so interesting to hear

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>from people who it's like, oh, yeah, I did see

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 2>my experience reflected in this.

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Cool It's very cool. Trag is trag.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Trag is trage for the last day of school is

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 2>way too late to be checking in about college applications

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>to be done a year ago.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>The college thing. I don't think that people who write

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>movies know anything about college, which is crazy because I

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>know that, especially these days, most of them know it.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>But like it's like once they're sitting down to do it,

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they forget everything. Yeah, it's like, I don't know, you

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>apply at some point. But you know, in their defense,

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>if I were trying to remember everything I did right now,

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know when I took the

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>essay ts, I don't know.

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder why I take such umbrage with getting

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the details of the college application piece.

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That's frustrating.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's irresponsible.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>It is irresponsible. It feels like a Hollywood throwaway sort

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Also true when I'm like, are you kidding me?

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I also don't like I just I never like the

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>idea of like, yep, I spent two minutes on the

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>application and I got into the only place I applied to.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, you spent eighteen years like becoming a person,

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 2>right right, right, and then had a breakdown every Monday

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>working on your application essays.

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh not everybody did that, Okay. In movies, they're almost

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>always going to an elite school, and I guess, yeah,

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 1>two girls who.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to be I need to be an elitist

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 2>about it, I think, is what's happening. I'm like, not

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 2>everybody gets into these as somebody whose dad and brother

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 2>went and that's why I got to Ye, but I.

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Did not have any fun in high school. But yeah,

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>can I tell you something. But it was because I

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was doing work and not because I was working at

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the dress factory.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I was I was working doing very privileged extracurriculars. I

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>was doing incredibly expensive extracurriculars. That's what I was doing exactly.

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh, trage for trage for the title and the toxicity even, Yeah,

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the ways that it's fighting against toxicity that I mean,

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like any period piece where it's like it's fighting

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>against something toxic in a way that with the itself time. Yeah,

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the tools of itself also have some toxicity within them,

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>so all of the fat phobia stuff. Also, she's like

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a teenage girl, so some of it she's like insecure

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>and like asking this boy to make her feel better

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, I mean, which is like what it's

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>teenagers are like. But yeah, anyway, Yeah, there's definitely you

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>can feel the two thousand and two I would say, yeah,

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>trage about this and the title itself, I think is

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>very antiquated, because that's not really yes, talk about.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 2>It, but I don't. Also, the concept of real women

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>is so tied in with transphobia now that it's like, well,

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>let's maybe avoid that phrase entirely. Yeah, very related. I

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>have a trage for you're not fat, You're beautiful.

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Crazy crazy.

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>That felt crazy to hear.

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I think what I appreciated about this movie was it

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>feels truly very nuanced in terms of the Mexican American Yeah,

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>aspects except for George Lopez. Okay, but like that's a

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>part where I think it wasn't you know, versus for example,

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>flame and hot being like family is everything, the perfect family,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, And on top of that, it just

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like was a more it was just her experience. Like

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't beyond just showing that this family can be

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>toxic blah blah blah, not just that, but just like

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it was just an honest representation of her experience, but

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:21.919
<v Speaker 1>versus trying to like prove something to audiences. But one

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>place that I think it continues to be a bit toxic. Hm,

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>all the boys are good and all the bad characters

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>are girls. Oh my god, that is like exactly what

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>machismo is is. It's like or exactly this, Like, oh,

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>but the boys are so sweet and they're doing their

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>work and they don't think very hard, but at the

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>end of the day they're there for you. And girls

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 1>are temptresses and they can be really mean. Holy shit,

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you're so right. The whole movie. I was like, you're joking,

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Like the one who helps her is her male teacher,

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the one, and it's very sweet, and it's like it's sweet.

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like the grandpa effect of being like that's so nice,

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>so cute that he's for me, and like it means

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>so much that, like this man who could be so

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>stoic and could not pay attention to me at all,

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he's being so sweet. And then like whoa, it's all

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the girls who she works with who are like mean

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're tearing each other down. And yeah, anyway, I

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's both a commentary on that and also I

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>was like it runs deep. Mm hmm, it runs deep.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>So that was a big trage for me.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Wo, man, that's such a great that's such a great

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>point a trage for Yeah, I find stories about someone

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>whose whole family hates them really really tiring. Oh my god,

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it'd be nice if people, if people liked each other

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 2>That there wasn't even like fun banter. There wasn't like

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>sibling banter at all. It was just like I hate

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you and you're a burden.

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>My next trage is for her mom hates her. She

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>hates tragic. She really is so tragic. She really it

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>feels like she's bringing all of her anger towards herself

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and stuff just at this daughter.

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a trage for Okay, I'm sorry, but was the

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 2>actor playing Estella so bad?

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really think about that, but yeah, probably.

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I found her unbearable to watch. She really was saying

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 2>lines out loud very much, and really related to that.

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 2>My last trage is a trage for all of the

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.919
<v Speaker 2>exposition in the film is communicated via dialogue.

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I love when the guy when the her crush or

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>when they're hanging out and he goes, oh god, it

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>sucks that I'm going next in two weeks to teach

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>your school. Ohe in two weeks. That sucks. Oh my god.

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>When Stella is like, now, remember we have to get

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>these one hundred and eighty five dresses done in time,

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 2>otherwise they won't pay us, and then we can't pay

0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 2>for the bills.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wait no, And my final trage

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is wait, does Anna never wear the dress that Estella

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>makes for her? Oh my god, she doesn't. Oh my god,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Wait my god, what a waste. Literally this is so

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two that they go the very end

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of the movie, she goes, I made you this dress.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Anna goes, that dress won't fit me, and Estella goes,

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>she unveils the concept that they didn't have in two

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand and two, which is that they can have dresses

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.959
<v Speaker 1>of different sizes for different body ties, and she says,

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I've made it for your exact proportions, and honest, like what,

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 1>that's not possible. There's no such thing as that. She goes,

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I did, and then she never wears it. We never

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>get to see her in the pretty dress moment, which

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>she talked about, Like, because she talked about wanting to

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 1>have a pretty dress moment, did they cut.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>That out to start? They needed to start in this

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>movie in January of her senior year, because then there's

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 2>at least a chance that it makes sense that she's

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 2>applying for colleges. Wait then, she can go to prom

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 2>and wear the gorgeous dress that her sister made for her,

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and then end.

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Up in New York. I don't know why they did that.

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 2>They could have sex on prom night. That's what a

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of people do, like, there's so many different Oh my.

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 1>God, I don't know why they did that. I can't

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>believe we didn't see her in the dress. That's a

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>crazy anyway. God, Leanna on to our next segment, which is,

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of course, how to pretend you've seen this film? This

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is you are? You are on the bus in Los Angeles. Sorry,

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear that. And Jimmy comes up to

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you and he says, you're not fat. It's the bus.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>You say, what, what are you? You're not fat? Huh,

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>We're on the bus. I'm sorry, I don't even understand.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, I don't want to talk to you about

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that you want to talk about. He says, Oh, La, La, La,

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I love any movie that's a love letter about La. Yeah,

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>to La. That's the whole reason I watched this movie.

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's a whole lot of stuff about girls, and

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I just think that chick is beautiful, not fat. You go,

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, no, no, no, no no, I can't do this.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>And uh, there's this movie called Real Women Have Curves.

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You probably like it because it's about like women's rights

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and like it seems like you might like

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that because you're a woman.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>You go, oh, okay, And in order to stop the

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 2>bus and boot Jimmy off of it, we're gonna give

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 2>you a few sentences you can say to pretend you've

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 2>seen the film Real Women have Curves. Yes, Jimmy, I've

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 2>seen real women have curves.

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what I wonder?

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want you to answer this because I

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>don't care about your opinion on it. Is if Greta

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Gerwig was very influenced by this movie when making both

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Ladybird and Little Women, because there are moments and real

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 2>women have curves that are so later seen in Little

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Women and in Ladybird. In Little Women it's Sir Charon

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and speech about like women have thoughts and minds and souls,

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>which America says. In this movie, Anna has like a

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>little monologue that's very similar. And then the other thing

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>is a really tense mother daughter relationship in Ladybird, and

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.919
<v Speaker 2>then like her going off to college in New York

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 2>at the end, and the way that the mother and

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 2>the daughter say goodbye to each other is very, yes,

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 2>formative to their the rest of their relationship. For the film, Okay,

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>two things on that, first of all, amazing observation, and

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 2>two things on that my roommate while we were watching

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 2>it said, this is like Ladybird, This is like Latina Ladybird.

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, oh my god, you're right. And she

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would go on to be in a very famous Gretiger

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Wig movie Barbie Oh oh Ye, where she also gives

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a speech that will someday probably feel quaint. Yeah, that

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 1>someday was two years ago when the movie came out. Yes, Jimmy,

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I have seen the film. Real Woman Have Curves. A

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>very sad piece of trivia for Leonna and I to

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>chew on is the producers put out a cast and

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>call for girls who were fat or overweight, and had

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 1>thousands of girls show up who were clearly not fat

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or overweight, but all thought that they were. Ah, that

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>is such a fraught thing to say. Oh, that is

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a very very fraught piece of trivia. That's fraught, guys.

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and two. Two thousand and two frought about

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that thank you God for letting me be a teenager.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Not in two thousand and two.

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Jimmy, I've seen real women have curves. Something you'd

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 2>resonate with is the incredibly white statement that Jimmy in

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the film gives talking to America about her summer plans

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 2>when he says Europe is so cool. That is something

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 2>white people say, that kid was so white fun. That's

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 2>something white teens who've been to Europe with their rich

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 2>families say.

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Jimmy, I have seen the film Real Women Have Curves.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>This movie got a bunch of awards in two thousand

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and two. Okay, so awesome. It got it one. I'm

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>counting just on Wikipedia one, two, three, four, five, six

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>seven it won seven, was nominated for three at least

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>on uh Wikipedia here. Real Women Have Curves has received

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>or it was received with critical acclaim for its point

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>in commentary on challenges face facing Latina women, especially at

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 1>the time, and it made put America forr on the

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>on the map for being an awesome lady who is

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>often in movies about body image slang.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 2>She rules, Yes, Jimmy, I've seen real women have curves.

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 2>There's an interesting dichotomy in it of a like like

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 2>its title, there's a moment of cognitive dissonance in the

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 2>movie where somebody punches down again when Anna and Estella

0:48:55.560 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>are arguing about when Anna calls what the women making

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the dresses in the factory do cheap labor and Stellas like,

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this is not cheap labor. We work hard here. You

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 2>were out flipping burgers And I was like, okay, so

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 2>we're still we're still really hit hits people. Nobody can

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 2>not catch astray.

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, in the world of this film, we're taking

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone down, taking them all down with me. M It

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 1>just makes you grateful that at least this movie is

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to talk about things that should be better. Yeah,

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>unlike the many, many movies from the same time that

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone catches astray and it's just making jokes and stuff.

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, true, very true.

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Jimmy, I have seen the film. Real Women Have Curves.

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>This was America Ferrera's debut bless Up, and was the

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry by

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the Library of Congress, who deemed it culturally, historically, and

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:10.720
<v Speaker 1>esthetically significant in twenty nineteen, which is awesome.

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, Leanna, oh my gosh, let's move on. We

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 2>must move on to our next segment, should you watch

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 2>this or in which we tell you if we think

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you should watch this movie or if you should do

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 2>something else with your summer wetty body. Oh yeah, summer Seanna,

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 2>What would you say?

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I like this movie. I think it's worth watching if

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to, if you're looking for like critically acclaimed whatnot.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It is a period piece, but I personally am a fan.

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it though for me is I enjoy

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>movies about Mexican American culture. Some of it is just

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>what was in my household, and it's interesting seeing what

0:50:54.880 --> 0:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I can see in my family and he and also

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I like seeing La from different perspectives that aren't just

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like Quentin Tarantino.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, god, that's so true.

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think this movie is a good one to

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>watch at least once. If you don't want to watch

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that right now, you could watch America Fara in Barbie,

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you could watch her in Superstore. You could watch a

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Shrill which is a show that I love oh so much.

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of a more modern take on body image culture. Yeah.

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like being a fat person in America in close

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 2>to modern day it's.

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Much different than how it's regarded in this one. Yeah,

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:52.240
<v Speaker 1>but I do personally enjoy it, but you you should

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 1>go in understanding to take it with a two thousand

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and two grain of salt for sure, and then it

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>can be kind of seen as what it is. Leanna,

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>what about yourself? And it's okay if the white hook,

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I did feel I was maybe on the white hook

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 2>for this one.

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate what this movie did. At the time

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 2>that it came out, I didn't love it, and I

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't necessarily recommend watching it because it's still got a

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of harmful messaging in it that's not like helpful today.

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, if.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's what I wish I had, I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>had a recommendation for something that still speaks to like

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<v Speaker 2>the Latina experience specifically in America. Instead, what I have

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<v Speaker 2>are two podcasts that are both by fat comedians who

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<v Speaker 2>at various points during the podcast talk about their experience

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<v Speaker 2>like having the body that they have in America. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's also not all about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>It just comes up every now and again. One of

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.479
<v Speaker 2>them is Nicole Bayer's podca why Won't you date me, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. And then the other one is Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>Harn's podcast So true. I think again it's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the defining thing about their podcasts by any means. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's something. It's a part of their identity that's

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<v Speaker 2>informed their experience and their perspective on the world, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is always interesting to hear. See. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you rate the film Real Women Have Curves?

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<v Speaker 1>I would rate Real Real Women Have Curves. Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a it's very it's complex. Yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 1>give it four Heinous Mothers out of five. I really

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>enjoy what it makes me chew on. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy for me to accept this movie and its fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the title itself. I was thinking, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like, Okay, women who don't have curves aren't

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<v Speaker 1>real and there are people who aren't real. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we are all real women and before that reason, we

0:53:54.880 --> 0:54:00.760
<v Speaker 1>all have curves. Whatever that means to you. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really melancholy and there's definitely some really toxic stuff

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<v Speaker 1>at it, and I understand the take of like it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels bad. It is kind of feels bad

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, I was like, Oh, I forgot that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody is nice in this movie anyway. Yeah, again, I

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<v Speaker 1>give you. I give you the white right to rate

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<v Speaker 1>this however you'd like.

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<v Speaker 2>I will rate the film Real Women Have Curves three

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:32.879
<v Speaker 2>sweaty Bras out of five. Really appreciate what it did

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<v Speaker 2>at the time it came out during really genuinely appreciated

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<v Speaker 2>the like the sex scene that she had with the

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<v Speaker 2>boy she was seeing, and that it just all felt

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<v Speaker 2>like super comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I just struggled with the dialogue in this movie. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it was painful, really really painful. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it was good. I said, what was happening? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>said what was to happen? I think that was my

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<v Speaker 2>really big issue with it, and just the relationships didn't

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 2>feel I couldn't get my bearings in a lot of

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the relationship dynamics. There just wasn't quite anything for me

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<v Speaker 2>to connect to in a lot of the the ways

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<v Speaker 2>that they were treating each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They were heinous. Yeah, there was some real heinosity going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I also really appreciated that America, for I

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, like her character on is like I

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<v Speaker 2>just happened to like myself, like it's just not that deep,

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Like body stuff doesn't have to be all consuming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not all of who I am. She thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>that was very very progressive for the time. Literally, she

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<v Speaker 2>had no that's like so much closer to how we

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<v Speaker 2>now are talking about bodies. She modern day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true she had no reason to love herself based

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<v Speaker 1>on how people talk to her. It was all and

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<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, screw this. Yeah, well, Leanna, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for watching this movie with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We have now rot.

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<v Speaker 2>Gracias.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so cool. Your is so cool. Europe is

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. We have watched the movie Real women have curves.

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<v Speaker 1>really think that this movie is very nuanced about it

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like its cultural uh the It's just very

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<v Speaker 1>honest and about the Okay, let me start this again.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of too many things at once. Yes,