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Man. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Well you mentioned it earlier. 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: It's big news. 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: It's big news. Kevin Stefanski to the Cleveland Ago, Take 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: it away. Who's going to be your starter this weekend? 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Come on, cav. 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: He don't want to tell you. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going to Uh, hey. 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you. 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: We are we are efforting couch. Are you sure we're connecting? 48 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: Has he come to the podium. 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: Yet we're connecting. We're connecting here. He is coach. He 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: is so nervous about the announcement. 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 5: Sure Door will. 52 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 6: Start this week. Number one job of quarterback is to win. 53 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 6: So excited to get that first win under his belt. 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 6: And then next thing is improvement. And that's what young 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 6: players do, certainly young quarterbacks. Do you get one game 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 6: better and that's just from working at it. So that'll 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 6: be our focus. 58 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: Check your risk, play, check your risk. 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: What didn't they say. Didn't they say Buddy Dylan would 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: be the starter when he got cleared and came back. 61 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: Just what the best timing for Dylan? I'm in for 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: Scha Door. It's it's time. 63 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: It's never even against the Raiders. When ain't got that 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: new Ohio state. 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: You get a touchdown pass on a stream. 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, y'all say what y'all want? Let him get 67 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: this when let him get this dubbed this week when 68 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: they put him back in. Yeah, that perfect timing. The 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: sdor Sanders there, baby Stefanski going save its job? Who Stepanski? Shador? Baby? 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: Let's go Miles Garrett, you gotta you gotta defense. Did 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: you see Miles Garrett's face drop to the floor, which. 72 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Reaction bought a reaction off that ploor. 73 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: I believe I'm a believer perfect Timon. 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: Are you guys surprised I really do this? 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: Bitch? Are you? 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Are you surprised that, uh, that Shador stay as a starter? 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm not At this point, what do you have to lose? 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, you've seen enough of Dylan Gabriel to have an idea. 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 7: You want to see more from Shador, and you know 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 7: suit he looks like. And it's one way or another, 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 7: either to prove him right or to prove him wrong 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 7: with all the crap he's been saying. But either way, 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 7: like this is to me more about finding out what 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 7: you have in your roster as you're a team that's 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 7: looking for to twenty twenty six. 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's self preservation time. When you're 87 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: a team like the Cleveland Browns, everybody has to go 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: into self preservation mode. It just is what it is. 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what all the bad teams do. And 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: there's no exception here for anyone that's involved in this scenario, 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: and self preservation says you have to play Shador Sanders 92 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: in this scenario for the simple fact that if he 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: does continue to find a way to win, then the 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: self preservation again for the coaching staff, becomes more legitimized. 95 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: I think I think Kevin Stefanski's job hangs in the 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: balance of if the timing is perfect for shardor Sanders 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: to be playing as the starting quarterback for this team. 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: You think Kevin Stefanski's using to save his job. 99 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: Using is a strong way that wouldn't be the right way. 100 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: That's how you put positioning it, not using. I look 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: at it as Shador Sanders' success could legitimize him him 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: maintaining his job, not using him. I mean, I guess 103 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: if you're gonna say he's playing him, but I don't 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: think he He didn't put him in and bench Dylan. 105 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: Gabriel to me using him as you benched Dylan. You 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 4: put Shador in because you're trying to save your job. 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: Shador went in because of an injury, and Shador didn't 108 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: win that game, but came back and played out of 109 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: necessity and won the game that he played the necessity 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: due to injury. Now that the injury is cleared and 111 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: he's continuing on with Shador, that says to me, that's 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: a signal that it's self preservation. If you can get 113 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 4: on a winning streak down this stretch, you could save 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: your job. If you believe that Shador Sanders is the 115 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: way to get to that, that preservation of your job. 116 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: That's why you're playing Shador Sanders. Otherwise you would be 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: playing Dylan Gabriel if you feel If you felt Dylan 118 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: Gabriel's that player to preserve your job, Dylan Gabriel would 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: have been named back as the starter now that he 120 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: was clear from concussion protocol. Self preservation. So if you 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: want to call it using Shador, I don't. I don't 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: see it as using Shador. I feel like Shador gave 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: them a spark and gave them a little bit of excitement. 124 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: You saw the hope, the way they kind of positioned 125 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: it with the way they showed the content of the games. 126 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's for the media though, like, yeah, how this looks. 127 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: No one gives it. 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 7: Gives a crap in the locker room unless you're helping 129 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 7: him win, you know, and he made enough. 130 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: But what yeah, he's helping him win. 131 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 7: I mean, he did good enough this past game to win. 132 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 7: If you look into the stats and analytics, there's a 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 7: lot of skepticism because he's the fifth lowest graded quarterback. 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 5: Of the entire season off of what he's done so far. 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: Damn. 136 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: Now, that doesn't mean that he won't get better. You know, 137 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: when you look at. 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 7: That list of players Quinn e or As, Jaylen Milroe, 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 7: guys who are also rookies, Riley Leonard Notre Dame like 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 7: the also rookies, short small sample size, So as he plays, 141 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 7: I assume he will get better. But let's let's not 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 7: overreact too much to it. But I do think it's 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 7: it's good for the Browns to see what they have 144 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 7: in him. They drafted him. Let the guy play, you know, 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 7: see what you've got. He made some nice plays, buying time, 146 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 7: getting outside the pocket to make big throws down the field. 147 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 7: And I thought their coaching staff, contrary to what social 148 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 7: media will tell you out there, set him up to succeed. 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 7: If you watched the film, you would see that for 150 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 7: the most part, it was either screens to get the 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 7: ball out of his hand quick or they use seven 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 7: man protections where they didn't have to worry too much 153 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 7: about trying to worry about him figuring out the protection. 154 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: Everything else, block them all up. 155 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 7: Let him take chunks and shots downfield, and if it's 156 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 7: not there, dumb it down. 157 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: He can do those sorts of things. 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 7: So I thought their coaching staff did a good job too, 159 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 7: kind of playing to things that would help protect him 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 7: but also give him a chance to succeed, and they 161 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 7: were able to do just that. 162 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: More teams should do that. All these sacks you saw 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: Geno Smith seeing ghosts out there. More teams should do 164 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 4: max protection. I'd rather him have time to throw it 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: to somebody than no time in getting sacked for the 166 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: sake of trying to what like release too many guys 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: out into the passing round. 168 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 7: Well, that's the issue is if you've got seven guys 169 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 7: in protection, right, you can only have three guys out 170 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 7: in the routes, and so eventually you've got a lot 171 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 7: that running back that's height end or however you construct 172 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 7: it could be two running backs. You have to allow 173 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 7: those guys to release, otherwise they're never gonna have the 174 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 7: impact on the secondary. They need to have to pull 175 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 7: some of those you know, hook curl defenders down or 176 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 7: guys who are responsible for. 177 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: The underneath color, underneath coverage. 178 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 7: So if you can't do that, you might find yourself 179 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 7: you know, throwing some air and balls or throwing footballs away, 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 7: which you also saw a little bit from time to 181 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 7: time too, So again it's it's a little more nuanced conversation. 182 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 7: But I thought they did a good job not giving 183 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 7: them too much that was gonna be too difficult, or 184 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 7: putting him in bad spots, which again was the entire 185 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 7: narrative after he came in off the bench as a backup. 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 7: And I feel like I was the only one on 187 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 7: the show outside of you know, maybe Jonas who wanted 188 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 7: to point out that that's the life of a backup 189 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 7: of any position. 190 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: So really thought, well, I didn't think he'd ever play, 191 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: so I didn't. 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: Again, you're gonna watch the Browns more. They played four 193 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: to five quarterbacks every season. 194 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: But wanted him cut. 195 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: I did not want him cut earlier in the summer. 196 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: You were actually I did not. 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: You changed your tune, but earlier this summer. 198 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: No, No, that's an inaccurate representation of what I said. 199 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: I said as a fifth rounder, there would there would. 200 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if he got cut because 201 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: of the they brought in Picket, then they bring in Flacco, 202 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: You drafted Dylan Gabriel and you drafted Shador Sanders. Shador 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: Sanders being the last one out of all of them, 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: I thought he might get cut. I didn't say I 205 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: was calling for him to get cut. 206 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Was did a Did Tyler Huntley also get a get 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: a cut? 208 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: I think he was with the Browns for like a 209 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: week and a half. Yeah, there's a lot of guys 210 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: there with the. 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 4: Brown Picket was gone by then though. Yeah, he was 212 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: a part of the team too. Huntley, Yeah, I get that, 213 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, but when they brought him in, Picket 214 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: was gone by then, right, he was gone about it? Yes, 215 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: it was after Yeah, it's hard to keep track of 216 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 4: which would still tell you that there was no real 217 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: confidence possibly and all the guys they had on their roster, 218 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: like they were still trying to figure out that they 219 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: have to have somebody that could jump in there and 220 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: play for them to try to win games. I don't 221 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: think there's a ton of confidence in this quarterback room, 222 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: if I'm being honest. Now, how that plays out and 223 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: what happens, I don't know, But I would have thought 224 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: that they would have gave Picket an opportunity. Flacco beats 225 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: them out, Okay, but I'm not getting rid of a 226 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: guy that I brought in that could compete. If I 227 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: go with a guy that could compete for the starting 228 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: job with another guy that can compete for the starting job, 229 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm not letting both of them go because those are 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 4: the guys that I projected and anticipated to be the 231 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: starters for my team. We just had the conversation about 232 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy in an hour one, which you could get 233 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: on our podcast. By the way, Joe, make sure you 234 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: go wherever it is that you get your podcasts from 235 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: search Fox Sports Radio and you can get a podcast anyway. Yeah. 236 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing wrong with giving rookies, especially late 237 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: round draft pick rookies, an opportunity to sit and learn. 238 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: I have no problem with Shador being on the bench. 239 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: I have no problem with Dylan Gabriel being on the bench, 240 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 4: getting an opportunity to learn the flow of the game, 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: the operation of the week, the operation of the game plan, 242 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: the dudes, the don'ts, all those different things that Jordan 243 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: Love had the benefit of being able to get. We 244 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: always are often forcing and pressuring these young guys to 245 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: be world beaters in a league full of guys that 246 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: are there as pros just as well, they're they're pros 247 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: to on the other side of the ball, and a 248 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: lot of them are are veteran pros. They they understand tendencies. 249 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: They understand lineups and and matchups and and and you know, 250 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: formations and all kinds of downs and situational football. They 251 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: understand that. So to ask a kid, basically a kid 252 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: to come in and be able to operate and activate 253 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: against these types of units, that's a lot. It's a 254 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: daunting task for any of them, whether they have success 255 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: or not, it's a daunting task. 256 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: Do you think would it be I don't know if 257 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: this would be. 258 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, kind of disrespectful, But do you think, you know, 259 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: with as much of a bad position as they put 260 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: shad or Sanders in throughout his entire NFL journey thus far, 261 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: do you think those. 262 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: Wretches that's arcas well. 263 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: No, I'm just I want to know, do you think 264 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: those those wretched sons of bitches that the NFL could 265 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: just schedule the rates every week for the Browns, like 266 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: at least if they could do that much based on 267 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: all the difficult situations he's been put in, I think 268 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: that would make everybody happy. 269 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: We're trying we want to please everybody. 270 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: What's doing right now? 271 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: I just I want him to have a fair ship. 272 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 7: I'm making fun of the situation. It's hilarious, like people, 273 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 7: I just it is what it is. 274 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: I just want to see him get the Raiders every week, 275 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: the awful Raiders every single week. So we can you know, 276 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: celebrate that play perfect timing. 277 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you don't think he can win this week? 278 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: They got the Niners. 279 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: Short? We check the uh the Niners they just played? 280 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: Are you sticks picking it? Are you stick? 281 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: They're in Cleveland and the Niners are a six point favorite. 282 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I take I take the Browns on this one. 283 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, perfect whoa hold you to that too? 284 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: Hold you to that. 285 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: They ain't gonna be able to deal with that defense. 286 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: All stra Door gotta do is manage the game. Don't 287 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: turn the ball over, manage the game. Let them let 288 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: them do time. Yeah, it's perfect time and it's gonna 289 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: be a big win, big win for Cleveland. 290 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 8: Hey. 291 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: You know what though, Actually, let me ask you this, Brady, 292 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: do Browns fans give a rip who the quarterback is? 293 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: Like? 294 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: Is there's this clamoring for shad Or Sanders over Dylan Gabriel. 295 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 7: No, they just want to win. You know, they're just 296 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 7: excited that they won. You know, if they win this week, 297 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 7: he'll be they'll be behind them excited. If they lose, 298 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: they'll be like, this guy's a bum. They want to 299 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 7: move on to the next guy. That's just how it is. 300 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: I know what they do care about. They're hot sauce. 301 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: En listening, original Louisiana hots. It's got it, simple ingredients, 302 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: three of them. Put them onto your plate. Turns any 303 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: Tuesday into a tail Oh yeah, tailgate Tuesday. It is Tuesday. 304 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: So hey, listen, no matter what day it is, grabbing 305 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: to reach original Louisiana hot sauce and add a little 306 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: game day to every day. All right, that's a Louisiana 307 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: hot sauce. Make sure you're bat youse. Hey. 308 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: By the way, Shaye is a Browns fan. Shaye, you 309 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: were You were at the Raiders Browns game. What was 310 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: the buzz like for all number twelve out there. 311 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: In its history? Man? 312 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, we were excited. No, yeah, there's a lot of 313 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 9: Browns fans. So it was funny because it seemed like 314 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 9: everyone was just kind of like okay, We're like, we're 315 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 9: okay with each other because we both suck, so everyone 316 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 9: was kind of just like celebrating that, and then it 317 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 9: kind of turned into Browns being too hopeful and seeing 318 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 9: the three touchdowns and like being like, oh my god, 319 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 9: it's the Dore time. So at the table is after 320 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 9: the game, everyone I was talking to it was like, Yeah, 321 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 9: I'm really feeling excited about this, and I'm just sitting there. 322 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 9: I'm like, dude, forty two quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine. 323 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 9: We were just talking about this, Like, come on, We've 324 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 9: seen this happen all too much before. Everyone has been great. 325 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 9: I'm like RG three was a starting quarterback at one 326 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 9: time for the Browns. Like that's like it goes back 327 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 9: so much to where it's like there's so many names. 328 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 9: Everyone has had hype. It's just I'm annoyed by it. 329 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 9: It's like I was happy to see a win. Was 330 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 9: the first game where I was like, oh my god, 331 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 9: we have the lead. We might actually win this game. 332 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 9: Every other time we've had the lead, I knew we 333 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 9: were gonna lose, but no, it was it was cool. 334 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 9: I'm happy for Shador, but I have I'm not hopeful. 335 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just want to win games, so it 336 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter with the quarterback exactly, Dylan Gabriel should doesn't matter? 337 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, So all. 338 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: Right, Well, something to monitor here, the Shood or Sanders situation. 339 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully everybody who's in a better mood surrounding Shud or 340 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: Sanders and we can all we can all find common ground, 341 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: so the hot takes can die. 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All right, 399 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: so we have some different reports some different quote unquote 400 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: updates on the Lane Kiffin situation in the world of 401 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: college football. It came out on Friday into Saturday that, 402 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: according to Ross Dellinger, that lane Kiffin has an offer 403 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: on the table from LSU, seeing the numbers ninety million 404 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: dollars over seven years, which could approach one hundred million 405 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: dollars in the contract twenty five million dollars worth of 406 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: nil money also attached to that they've decided that he 407 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: will make an announcement on his future, reportedly coming up 408 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: on Saturday after the Egg Bowl against Mississippi State. There's 409 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: also been a report out there lane Kiffin has set 410 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: himself he's going to coach through the rest of the season. 411 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: There's a report that players have grown a little frustrated 412 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: with the circus surrounding all this. Pete Nachos of On 413 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: three also says that sources at ole Miss have said 414 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: clarity on Kiffin's future could come on Wednesday or Thursday actually, 415 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: but nothing is expected to be formally announced until Saturday, 416 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: although that stuff will probably most likely the way this 417 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: whole thing has gone leak out before then. 418 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: So ken olt Miss bid higher than LSU. Now that 419 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: they know the number that's out there, Like, are they 420 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: able to do that? Now? You might know that better 421 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 4: than anyone. Q. I mean, are they do they have 422 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: the war chest to be able to counter what other 423 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: poachers may be trying to do? 424 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 7: Well, I would say this, it doesn't matter what's out there. 425 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 7: Obviously Kiffn's agent is talking. 426 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 5: To ole Miss and LSU and Florida and anyone else 427 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 5: who's interested. 428 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 7: So the interesting thing about that question is I don't 429 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 7: know how LSU has the war chest to pay Lane 430 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 7: Kiff and what there is reportedly being thrown out there to. 431 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: Pay along with nil and everything else. 432 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: And the plot to Buddy to Brian Kelly. 433 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, the most cringe thing that happened throughout the entire 434 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 7: Senior Day process was his son going out there for 435 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 7: Senior Day at LSU like Kenzel Kelly wearing a saying 436 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 7: free BK, free BK. Like I'm like, what what? Like 437 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 7: you you mean you want your dad to be paid? 438 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: Like? 439 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 7: I like? It was funny to me. People were asking like, oh, 440 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 7: I didn't know Brian Kelly at a sun who PLAYE. 441 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 7: I was like, I wasn't aware of that either until 442 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 7: obviously I saw his son and then when I saw 443 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 7: him saying all that, I'm thinking to myself, Well, they're like, 444 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 7: why is he saying free bk Well, that's part of 445 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 7: his inheritance probably, So I'm sure he's very much invested 446 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 7: and making sure his dad gets the fifty four and 447 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 7: that's owed to him. I'm assuming he's pretty aware of, 448 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 7: you know, him being a part of that at some 449 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 7: point in the future. So I'm sure he wants, you know, 450 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 7: his dad get the money he wants. But if they're 451 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 7: trying to offer Lane Kiffen one hundred million and they've 452 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 7: got nil money as well, but that they still owe 453 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 7: fifty four million, like where's all the money coming from? 454 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 7: And they try to fight paying Brian Kelly the fifty 455 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 7: four that he's owed, and now you're going to turn 456 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 7: around and throw another hundred at this. I mean to 457 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 7: answer your question, LeVar, Yeah, I'm sure they could find it, 458 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 7: because clearly LSU has been going around trying to find 459 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 7: funds to pay off Brian Kelly and pay Lane Kiffin. 460 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: So there's that element to it, you know. But could 461 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 5: Almoss do the same. 462 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 7: Sure, I'm sure someone could figure out a way of 463 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 7: finding enough money to sign up for that contract. I 464 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 7: think that the bigger question is if you're Old Miss 465 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 7: and you look at what Lane Kiffin has done. Has 466 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 7: Lane kiffen ever won a conference championship? 467 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 5: Ever? 468 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 6: No? 469 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 7: Ever, I wouldn't know, So Yah, did he win one 470 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 7: when he was in the Pac twelve or Pack ten 471 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 7: back then? He didn't win one? With the one year 472 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 7: he was at Tennessee. He hasn't won one since he's 473 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 7: been at Old Miss. And so I'm bringing this up 474 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 7: only because I think when you eliminate emotions out of 475 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 7: these decisions that are attached to these coaches, what have 476 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 7: they really done and accomplished? 477 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: You know, they've won three straight. 478 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 7: Seasons or they've won ten games, that is an accomplishment, 479 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 7: I think most people would say at Old Miss, meaning 480 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 7: they've brought it to a higher level of performance and 481 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 7: they have sustained that higher level and shown consistency, which 482 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 7: is important if you want to keep taking those next 483 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 7: steps right. You can't just kind of be a flash 484 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 7: in the pan, or you know, when you're up up 485 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 7: next year, you're down that sort of thing. So it 486 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 7: makes you feel like he's built up a program that 487 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 7: now has sustained success, But can he take the next 488 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 7: step to help them win a national championship. 489 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 5: I personally believe in. 490 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 7: Today's era, Yeah, if Indiana can be a part of 491 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 7: that conversation, now they're to build him still in the mix. 492 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 7: You know, if those schools can make that sort of 493 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 7: turn around, why not you know, why not Old Miss 494 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 7: as being one of those teams in the conversation that's 495 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 7: still not mathematically eliminated for the SEC Championship game, they'll 496 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 7: probably be in that large bid for the College Football 497 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 7: Playoff and once again and we'll see what they're capable of. 498 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 7: But I bring all this up because if you're Old 499 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 7: miss and Lane Kiffen and his representation, which I believe 500 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 7: is probably Jimmy Sexton, I don't know off the top 501 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 7: of head. 502 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 5: I'm sure you can look it up. 503 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 2: I think it is. 504 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 7: I would imagine that they're using this as a leverage point. 505 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 7: And if you're Old Missed, you have to say to yourselves, 506 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 7: could we bring someone in who could do the exact 507 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 7: same thing or build off of this, Like do we 508 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 7: feel like Lane ultimately can. 509 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 5: Help us win a national championship? 510 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 7: There might be some people who feel like this is 511 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 7: our ceiling with Lane here, It'll miss and they're okay 512 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 7: with them going in a different direction bringing someone else in. 513 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 5: Again. 514 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 7: I think you look at what Kurt and Signetti has 515 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 7: done to the college football landscape. A coach who came 516 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: from James Madison, who came from a bunch of smaller schools, 517 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 7: and has literally been able to build up Indiana into 518 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 7: a contender over the past two years. Like, if I'm 519 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 7: another school right now looking for my next head coach, 520 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 7: I'm casting a pretty wide net because I look at 521 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 7: the deals that s S made with Lincoln Riley. Still 522 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 7: no conference championship, Still no college football playoff birth there 523 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 7: won't be this year either since he got there, right, 524 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 7: I mean people will well you know they joined the 525 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 7: tough Big ten. Okay, well he was in the Pac 526 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 7: twelve when he first got there. Couldn't do it there either, 527 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 7: or couldn't do it then either. So you look at 528 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 7: some of these coaches that are the hot names that 529 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 7: end up going somewhere for a one hundred million dollars contract. 530 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 5: How's that working out? 531 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 7: Or SC fans happy with Lincoln Riley after what has 532 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 7: it been five years now? 533 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you look at what Kurtzignette's done. 534 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 7: He's put a lot of pressure on a lot of 535 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 7: other programs and coaches because he didn't come up that 536 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 7: way to Indiana. He took the opportunities, turned it into 537 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 7: into a contender right away. Now he's eventually got that 538 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 7: big contract and he'll have to continue to keep proving 539 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 7: it and earning it. But the truth of the matter is, 540 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: I don't I just I don't know that Old miss 541 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 7: needs to hang on to Lane Kiffin in order to 542 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 7: continue to win. 543 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: So you think they hit their sailing with Lane Kiffin, 544 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: I do. 545 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 7: I don't think they'll win a national championship this year. 546 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 7: I don't think he's staying. If he was staying, he 547 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 7: would have made the decision to stay already. 548 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: But if he were staying, would they be better Would 549 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 4: they be better better off if if he were staying 550 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: Or is it okay to just let him go because 551 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: where they're at right now, it's not worth paying him. 552 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 7: Well, here's market You nor I or anyone else for 553 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: that matter, unless you're in that program, understand how much 554 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 7: money resources and funds they have. You know, I would 555 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 7: say this like, would you rather invest one hundred million 556 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 7: dollars in a coach or have one hundred million dollars 557 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 7: in a nil. I mean, I'll look at this way. 558 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 7: Texas Tech, for example, they have Cody Campbell, who was 559 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 7: a billionaire. 560 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: And what did. 561 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 7: Texas Tech do this offseason? Hey, is University of Miami here, 562 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 7: We're gonna pay you half a million dollars. Next phone call, 563 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 7: Hey we're Texas Tech. How much is Miami paying you? 564 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 7: Five hundred thousand. We're gonna give you six hundred thousand. 565 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 7: Boom click, flying to Lubbock. Every single one of those 566 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 7: guys they got, they outbid. It wasn't like they were 567 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 7: trying to pay the market value. They knew that they 568 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 7: were overpaying for the players. And guess what it's got 569 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 7: in Texas Tech. They're in position right now not only 570 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 7: win the Big Twelve, but go on try to win 571 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 7: for un national championship. And by the way, they look 572 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 7: like a team like Ohio State, like Bama, like some 573 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 7: of the other teams. When you go see the big 574 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 7: boys in the trenches and you can see their old 575 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 7: line and D line. It didn't lose to look like 576 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 7: that a couple of years ago. They look like that now. 577 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 7: And I know, like the whole eye test and thing 578 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 7: gets thrown around a lot but the reality is that 579 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 7: money spent on that roster has taken what was an 580 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 7: eight and five program under Joey McGuire never it was 581 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 7: better than eight and five, and they're now a team 582 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 7: that we're talking about winning a conference, going to play 583 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 7: for a national championship. So when you asked me the question, yeah, 584 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 7: I feel like the money could be better spent on 585 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 7: a roster because this game is always about players. It 586 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 7: always has been, always will be, and especially at a 587 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 7: level like college football, where there is still a big 588 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 7: time and talent gap between the haves and have nots. 589 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 7: So I personally would rather find a guy that I 590 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 7: feel like is a really good coach leader of men, 591 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 7: and give him a war chest to go outbid everyone 592 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 7: and go get every stacked transfer portal player you can 593 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 7: and every big name recruit you can to Oxford Mississippi, 594 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 7: and if Lane wants to go to LSU, so be it. 595 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 4: If that, if that theory works, then that will totally 596 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: change the landscape of college football forever. 597 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 7: So let me ask who was reportedly the most expensive 598 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 7: roster last year in college football? 599 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: Was it A and M or S m U s 600 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: MU neither? 601 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 7: It was Ohio State, Yes, it was who was who 602 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 7: was the program two years ago that invested in and 603 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 7: put a ton of money in the roster. 604 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: Again, that's who you are. You're going with this, all right, 605 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: see where you're going. 606 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 5: With so right now now, I'm not saying Texas Tech 607 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 5: is That. 608 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: Doesn't So you're saying Ryan Day and Hardball aren't that 609 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: they just managed the coaches. 610 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's part of that's part of it. 611 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 4: You're managing it. 612 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 7: But you know, the point I'm making is Jeremiah Smith, 613 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 7: Carnell Tate, all these talented players they have, you know, 614 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 7: that's a part of it. Like you, you're able to 615 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 7: get those talented players to coach. Like you probably didn't 616 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 7: watch Ohio State Rutgers this past week. They didn't have 617 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 7: Cornel State, they didn't have Jeeramiah Smith, but they were 618 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 7: able to work at to Max Clair, they were able 619 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 7: to work at some of the other tight ends because. 620 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 5: Those guys were injured. 621 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 7: But yeah, the offense looks a little different when those 622 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 7: two guys aren't out there, not quite as potent as 623 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 7: it normally is. 624 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: The timing of this, the whole thing, is the part 625 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: that kind of bugs me. 626 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: It's, yeah, not that timing that time looks perfect. 627 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: It's the timing of it all where it's you know, 628 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: their rivalry game coming up. They're trying to get to 629 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: a college football playoff. They've got all this stuff, and 630 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: when you see that report, the players are frustrated with 631 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: the circus. I don't blame them, man, Like, what are 632 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: we doing here? Why can't this wait until after the season. 633 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Why can't this wait until later on when we can 634 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: get through this stuff and then we can focus on 635 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: all that. Instead they're having to have conversations about their 636 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: coach bailing. 637 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 7: I thought it was interesting listening to Lane kiff and 638 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 7: talk yesterday about this because his comment was, and LeVar 639 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 7: can kind of probably speak to this kids, like these 640 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 7: days are different. You know when we were looking at schools, 641 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 7: we were looking at a place that, hey, we could 642 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 7: get our degree, we could try to go win a national. 643 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: Championship, play football, go to the NFL. 644 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 7: But we also looked at it and instead our coach 645 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 7: is we're gonna be with them for the next four 646 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 7: or five years, let's say three to five years, Like 647 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 7: that's how we used to look at it. And Lane's 648 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 7: point was, kids don't look at their college football experience 649 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 7: that way anymore. From high school now into college, it's 650 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: very transient and it's almost like a year to year 651 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 7: deal where they're just looking at the here and now 652 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 7: and trying to see how it's gonna help them become 653 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 7: the best player they can be and give them the 654 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 7: best chance to go make money, go play football, go 655 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 7: go play in. 656 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: The NFL someday. 657 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 7: And he said, so, the players aren't as quite as 658 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 7: upset about the you know this sort of thing because 659 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 7: they can do it too. And because of that now, 660 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 7: at least to his words, he thinks that it kind 661 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 7: of changes their perspective on coaches when they're in this. 662 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 5: Position because the players in a very similar position. 663 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 4: I think it's where you come from. And it's probably 664 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: a very small percentage of athletes of kids that come 665 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: from a scenario where they're actually taught to look at 666 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 4: the academic value of the university as well as what 667 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: it has to offer athletically. I think that that has 668 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: something right. 669 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 5: But that's not that's point. 670 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 4: Now. 671 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 7: The point is, like back when we played, you couldn't 672 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 7: transfer unless you're gonna sit out. 673 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 5: Of here, and you have to give you some potential 674 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 5: of your eligibility. Yes, So all I'm saying is nowadays 675 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: kids don't. 676 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 7: They look at it more as like, well, I can 677 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 7: go anywhere else if I need to, just like he can. 678 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 7: So I'm not gonna condemn him looking to go somewhere else. 679 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 7: I get get paid when I'm doing the same thing. 680 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: But my takeaway from listening to what you're saying is basically, 681 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: kids aren't offended or bothered by it as much it's 682 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: or maybe it's as it's it's more expected than what 683 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: it's ever been based upon the landscape of where things 684 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 4: are right now. So I understand what you're saying. I 685 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 4: think I feel like that's my interpretation of again, how 686 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: some of these players would be looking at, or how 687 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: a lot of them are looking at, what these scenarios 688 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: with going to a university, you know what it represents. 689 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: There's the strong possibility I go here, we're good, and 690 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: my coach isn't going to be here. So do I 691 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: go here because of the coach or do I go 692 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 4: here because of the school, And a lot of times 693 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: it should be both. It has to be both. To 694 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: anyone that says that a kid that leaves the school 695 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: to follow a coach anything like that, they didn't go 696 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 4: there for the right reasons, this and that, Like, I 697 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: feel like that's a hard judgment. I feel like that's 698 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 4: a very hard judgment because the trust factor that it 699 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 4: plays in allowing your child to go to this university, 700 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 4: for one, but who's going to be raising and managing 701 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: my child once they leave my home. That's a very 702 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: big part of why kids choose the schools they choose. 703 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: So if that guy is leaving, then you know, it 704 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 4: creates a whole nother dynamic of how you're interpreting, you know, 705 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 4: what the college experience is truly about, and kids, really 706 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 4: families get shamed when it's not academically driven. And I 707 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 4: don't know that we're in a time and place where 708 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: that is able to exist now at the level that 709 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: it did when we were playing Q Like that was 710 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: a major piece. Like if you said I was going 711 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 4: there just for football, you were shunned, frowned upon. Know 712 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: you're a jock, you're a meathead, you name it. But 713 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: now I don't I don't think that that judgment is 714 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 4: there as much. I don't know that it can be 715 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 4: there as much. If you're leaving, you're leaving and those 716 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 4: reasons aren't academically rooted, it's business rooted. 717 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: Even Yeah, you don't think in that it's more accepted now, 718 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that anybody. 719 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: Cares whether or not you've got your degree. 720 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. Which is crazy, which is crazy because 721 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 4: we're still fighting this whole idea of student athlete student athlete. 722 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 4: This is not this is still not professional sports. So 723 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 4: until you're willing to allow it to be stated that way, 724 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 4: which to me, I feel has always been a hustle. 725 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: But if you're if you're not concerning yourselves with the 726 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: academic level and the standards that are connected to being 727 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 4: a student athlete at the college level, then that totally 728 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: that totally changes the conversation. And we're college athletics, college football, 729 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 4: where it's going, where it's hitting, Yeah, changes everything. 730 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, you know, regardless of the background, 731 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: I think we all can agree is Sesame Street helped 732 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: raise all of us, and now it's our term. So 733 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: donate this holiday season at Sesame dot org because the 734 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. 735 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: Coming up next. 736 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: Here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, we 737 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: are going to tell you about one team who's found 738 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: another fall guy. 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And by the way, this shows 749 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: sponsored by DraftKings sportsbook and official sports betting partner of 750 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: the NFL and NBA, and right now use the promo 751 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: code two pros to claim your special offer a DraftKings Again, 752 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: that's promo code two Pros at DraftKings. The crown is yours. 753 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: The Giants have found another fall guy. It's not Brian Daball. 754 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: They already claimed that one earlier in the year. Defensive 755 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: coordinator Shane Bowen out of there, fired by the New 756 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: York Giants following that loss in overtime to the Detroit 757 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: Lions over the weekend, Outside linebackers coach Charlie Bollen will 758 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: be taken over the interim duties there. So Mike Kafka, 759 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: who's an interim himself, apparently wanted to feel what it 760 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: was like to fire somebody as a head coach. 761 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 4: And before he meets the Yeah, why not. 762 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, let me try. Let me see every angle 763 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: in every aspect of this gig. 764 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 7: Any coaches last, just like keep firing guys like who's 765 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 7: gonna be left to. 766 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 5: Coach the team? It's high school staff and done. 767 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: Have you have you talked to Abdul this year of 768 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: our No? 769 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 4: I have not. I have not. 770 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: You have not not asked him how that experience has gone. 771 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 4: There would I will? 772 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 7: He's missing meetings, you know, Dan, I'm saying you would 773 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 7: have talked some sense into him. 774 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I will wait till the season comes to 775 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 4: a uh completion before we have or sit down talk. 776 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah what do you think that might sound like? 777 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 4: I'm pretty positive, you know, I'll talk to him and 778 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 4: see what what he's experienced and and what his uh 779 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 4: you know, did he meet his his goals for the year? 780 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 4: How is he emotionally you know, mentally? You know, did 781 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 4: he get through physically? Is you know, is everything okay, 782 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 4: and then it'll just be a matter of understanding the 783 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 4: business of where you are now and and the realities 784 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 4: that that exists with that, you know, and that would 785 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 4: be our conversation. It would be based around that, you know, 786 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 4: understanding Losing is a part of it when you're a 787 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 4: high draft pick, and building is a part of it 788 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 4: as well. And your legacy will be either tied to 789 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 4: mediocrity or to be tied to you built something you 790 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 4: are a part of building something where you remember for 791 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 4: being you know, great for what you did. And and 792 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 4: so we'll have those conversations, you know, but well it'll 793 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 4: be our season's conclusion. 794 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hopefully hopefully. 795 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 4: You can wake up. 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