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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast,

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Speaker 1: CBS Westwood One color analyst Ross. Good morning. How are you, buddy, Dan?

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Speaker 1: I am fantastic. I would definitely be better if I

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Speaker 1: was getting a chance to see you guys in person

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Speaker 1: and sitting on the sactional. But I'm very appreciative and

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Speaker 1: glad I could join you anyway. What's the food spread

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Speaker 1: this weekend for you? You know, that's an interesting question.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually incredibly lame on Super Bowl Sunday, So this

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Speaker 1: is I typically don't work to super bowls. This is

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Speaker 1: the first weekend, believe it or not, since the Eagles

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Speaker 1: first preseason game August eleventh. Well, I guess last weekend

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Speaker 1: was I'm not traveling to broadcast at least one game,

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Speaker 1: and the first couple of times I did it, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I would go to like a super Bowl party around here,

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Speaker 1: but you probably know how it's how it is like

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Speaker 1: I'm at super Bowl party and that there to my

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Speaker 1: right is asking me a question. This guy's got the business.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this? I just don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of interest in people talking to me while

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the super Bowl. So a lot of times

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty lame when it comes to what I eat

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Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl. I think what I might try

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Speaker 1: to do this year, if I can pull it off,

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Speaker 1: I might go to the super Bowl party like an

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Speaker 1: hour early. I might crush some buffalo chicken dip, have

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Speaker 1: a few wings. Of course, the drums, not the flats.

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Speaker 1: Drums are way better than flats, that's common knowledge. Maybe

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Speaker 1: some hummus so I feel good about myself, I'll stick

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Speaker 1: some carrots or some celery and some hummus. If everything

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Speaker 1: a hummish, you have offsets a wing, so like I'll

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Speaker 1: alternate to feel better about myself. But then fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: where the game starts, I'll leave and come back home

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Speaker 1: so I can watch in solitude, and I'll have people

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Speaker 1: ask me questions. Yeah, my wife said, do you want

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Speaker 1: to have a party, And I go, good, God, No,

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Speaker 1: I just want to sit. I don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: to anybody. I just want to watch. That's it. And

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Speaker 1: she goes, Okay, give me just a little tequila cigar.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Just watch the football and solitude. Don't have

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Speaker 1: to answer any of those questions. Now, do you have

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Speaker 1: a favorite prop bet I do. I've got a couple actually, Okay,

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Speaker 1: one is and you're gonna laugh at me about this.

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Speaker 1: I love the tails on the coin. Toss. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: a misnomer that a coin is fifty fifty Dan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: have you ever looked at a coin the head kind

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Speaker 1: of juts out a little bit. As a guy Paula's

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Speaker 1: talked about this as a guy with a huge head, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can speak to this. The headside is heavier. Look

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Speaker 1: at a coin, okay, the tail side is flat. The

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Speaker 1: headside of whoever it is, the George Washington, Abrahamling, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know who it is, whoever it is, the

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Speaker 1: headside juts out a little bit, and it's a big head.

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Speaker 1: So the head is actually heavier. As a guy with

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Speaker 1: whole Peacocks screen right now, I can tell you the

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Speaker 1: headside is heavier. Tails wins fifty eight percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm not sure I like tails. And

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Speaker 1: then in terms of the actual football, I like both

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to go over their rushing yardage props. For Burrow

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Speaker 1: it's eleven and a half at DraftKings for Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: It's five and a half at DraftKings. Here's the thing, though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: those yardage totals, they're based on the whole season, like

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Speaker 1: these numbers are based on the twenty game body of work.

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Speaker 1: This is the Super Bowl. We've seen John Elway do

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Speaker 1: the helicopter like thirty six years old. We saw Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow last week scramble for four third down conversions. Stafford

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Speaker 1: can run a little bit. Five and a half yards

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Speaker 1: for Stafford, that's one run. Burrow is gonna be under

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Speaker 1: pressure the whole game. He's gonna take off at least once.

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Speaker 1: He might get the eleven a half yards on one run.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's two over. Quarterback rushing has been awesome this postseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to ride it with both Burrow

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Speaker 1: and Stafford over at Draft Kings. Okay, but I was

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Speaker 1: wondering about this Ross. Do they factor in the yards

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback? No, great question, No, they don't. They

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Speaker 1: so sack yardage lost does not go against the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: rushing yards. However, Dan, it's a great question taking a

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Speaker 1: Mahomes was over his rushing yardage proud for some unknown reason, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Rather than just taking a knee and like losing a yard,

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Speaker 1: of that Super Bowl, people were losing their minds. People

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Speaker 1: lost their mahomes over rushing yardage prop on the two

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Speaker 1: do have some research on the heads and tails, PAULI. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ross is right. A Stanford professor said it's fifty one

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Speaker 1: point five percent for tails because of the weight issue

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Speaker 1: and that the heads would have more chance to affect

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Speaker 1: like weeks and weeks of testing. What other prop bets

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Speaker 1: do you do? You like here? Can I just say

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Speaker 1: something real quick? I was totally joking. I know that

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Speaker 1: I am a mate. I am bating now, It's not

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Speaker 1: like it's a Princeton researcher. Stanford like second tier school.

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Speaker 1: But still I am amazed. That is awesome. Um, I

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Speaker 1: like Tyler Boyd under receiving yardage. Love Tyler. I called

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Speaker 1: all of us high school games. But Jalen Ramsey plays

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Speaker 1: in the slot, Dan, I mean they don't move Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey around that much. People are Jamar chase Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: I doubt it. That's not what the Rams have done

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Speaker 1: on Boyd's receiving yardage, probably over on Cooper Cup. Now

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Speaker 1: it's over one hundred. I think it's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: two and a half, maybe up to one hundred and

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Speaker 1: four at DraftKings for Cooper Cup. But then the guy

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Speaker 1: has gone over fourteen of twenty games this year. The

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Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year tonight. I'm sure. I'm still

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Speaker 1: not sure people realize the season that Cooper Cup has had.

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Speaker 1: This is Randy Moss two thousand and seven. This is anything.

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans by three. I mean, he smoked everybody across

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Speaker 1: good matchup. He's Ross Chucker brand ambassador for the great

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Speaker 1: folks at DraftKings. I wanted to ask you about being

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Speaker 1: that depends on how the Bengals elect to help those guys.

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Speaker 1: there's no secrets here. The Bengals offensive line isn't good.

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Speaker 1: So what it really is incumbent upon, even more than

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Speaker 1: the players, in my mind, is what the coaches come

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Speaker 1: Do they try to run the ball more with Joe Mixon?

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Speaker 1: really focus on Aaron Donald. Obviously, you need to get

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Speaker 1: How did the Rams lose this Super Bowl? Probably, in

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Speaker 1: my mind two ways. One is Matthew Stafford turnovers leads

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Speaker 1: Burrow doesn't care. He just trusts him to somehow make

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week. Always have a blast.

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoyed listening to you guys. I hope Ryan

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Speaker 1: and uh Honolulu destroys Fritzie tomorrow. That'll be hell. Whoa what? Wow?

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Speaker 1: don't think Draft Kings has prop bets on mockhead lines. Wow,

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Speaker 1: game and try to shorten the game, play great defense,

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Speaker 1: keep the score down. You've got to offensively convert on

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Speaker 1: third downs, and if you don't, then you're in danger

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Speaker 1: of the game getting away from him. How would you

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Speaker 1: describe Jill Burrow if I had never seen him play? Oh,

428
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Speaker 1: I love the way he plays. I love the way

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Speaker 1: he played in college. What I like about him most, however,

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Speaker 1: and why I think he is a great player because

431
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Speaker 1: they all have ability. I mean, I always hear the

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Speaker 1: phrase this guy can make all the throws, and I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what that means. I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: what it means. It means he can make all the throws.

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Speaker 1: But who the hell can't make all the throws? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you can't make a throw, you probably shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: a starter in the NFL. There's only thirty two of

438
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Speaker 1: these jobs, and so he's really talented. But I think

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Speaker 1: when you start looking at quarterbacks, because it's always a

440
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Speaker 1: flip of the coin as far as who's going to

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Speaker 1: be successful as a first round pick and who's not,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna make it, who's gonna be regarded ultimately as

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Speaker 1: someone who didn't live up to his billing, I think

444
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Speaker 1: there's more to it. I think it's the intangibles, and

445
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Speaker 1: he clearly has it. So he's got an edge to

446
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Speaker 1: him that right from the beginning, even last year. You're

447
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Speaker 1: right from the start, and even when he was coming

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Speaker 1: out of college, you could just tell this guy's wired

449
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Speaker 1: a little bit differently. Nothing's too big for him. He's

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Speaker 1: confident he's going to be able to come in and compete,

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Speaker 1: and then the organization did a good job around him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm a big fan. I'm mean a big fan

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Speaker 1: of his love everything about him, love the way he

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Speaker 1: carries himsel if I wish I had as much swag

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Speaker 1: as he did in the locker room. The cigars are awesome.

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Speaker 1: The whatever he's doing and you know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: the whole package is phenomenal. But were you cocky at

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Speaker 1: any career? No? No, that's just uh no, it will turn.

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Speaker 1: I was confident, I mean I was confident, but I

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Speaker 1: would never have been described as cocky or brash. And

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Speaker 1: in the and I think that he walks that fine

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Speaker 1: line to where I don't think he's offensive. I think

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Speaker 1: he handles questions extremely well, even controversial moments when he's

464
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Speaker 1: been kind of drug into some things because of what

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Speaker 1: people have said, he handles it all very well. Um,

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Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm excited to follow his career. I

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Speaker 1: hated when he got injured, you know, with the knee,

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Speaker 1: and how was he going to respond to that? But

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Speaker 1: and I'll go a step further a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: a few years ago, it was the Jacksonville Jaguars. They

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Speaker 1: make it to the FC Championship Game, a franchise that

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Speaker 1: hadn't had much success. And then last year was Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you think of the Dog Pound and

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Speaker 1: all the great Browns fans over the years and hadn't

475
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Speaker 1: had much to root for. Now the Bengals, I just

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Speaker 1: I love seeing it. I love it. It's great for

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's great for those cities that have those

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Speaker 1: fans that haven't had a chance to really get excited

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Speaker 1: for postseason play. And what he's done and Zach Taylor

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Speaker 1: and all of them is great. Hats off to that organization.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's almost like they get a hall pass.

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Speaker 1: I know, the Bengals want to win. Maybe they don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, people don't expect them to win, but they do.

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Speaker 1: But then you juxtapose that to Matthew Stafford, like the

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Speaker 1: pressure on the Rams playing a home Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if he wins, he's probably going into the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. If he wins the Super Bowl. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: pressure like when you won your first one, What was

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Speaker 1: the pressure like when you went back for the second

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Speaker 1: time when you were expected to win. Well, there's still

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Speaker 1: that pressure. I mean, I wouldn't say because we had

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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl that then there's not as much pressure.

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Speaker 1: There'd be more. I would Yeah, in some ways, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think in some ways. I think it's how I

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Speaker 1: heard Matthew Stafford. Uh, And it's something that they talk

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Speaker 1: about internally, and I know Sean McVeigh does that. And

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Speaker 1: I like this phrase that pressure is a privilege. I

498
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Speaker 1: like that because you have to play in big games

499
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Speaker 1: in order for the there to be pressure. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to name teams. I've done that before and then

501
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: and then then the Twitter world wakes up and then

502
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Speaker 1: they you know, but there are teams in this league

503
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Speaker 1: that don't feel much pressure, and when they get out

504
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Speaker 1: of September, there's no pressure on them. They just go play.

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Speaker 1: And for Matthew Stafford and the Rams when Stafford was

506
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Speaker 1: traded for to know, I mean, the questions were always

507
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Speaker 1: and we had their games, is how's he going to

508
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Speaker 1: play in the big game? How's he going to handle this?

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Speaker 1: Because in Detroit. He didn't win a playoff game, he

510
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Speaker 1: didn't have a good record against teams with five hundred

511
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Speaker 1: records and all of that, and what he has proven

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Speaker 1: is what I knew and really what my career was about.

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Speaker 1: If if you have good players on your team and

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Speaker 1: you have good coaching as a quarterback, you have a

515
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Speaker 1: chance to have to play well and have a really

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Speaker 1: good year. And he's been able to do that. He's

517
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Speaker 1: played great, He's been a big part of it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm just really proud of Matthew. I've known him. He

519
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Speaker 1: grew up in my backyard where I live now in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: and I've been real proud of how he's handled the

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Speaker 1: pressure of this year and the expectations. He wanted to

522
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Speaker 1: go to LA. He wanted to do what he's doing

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Speaker 1: now in LA and Detroit. I talked to him before

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Speaker 1: the draft, I said, do you really want to be

525
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Speaker 1: drafted by the Lions. The Lions obviously weren't very good

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Speaker 1: at the time, and he wanted to turn that program around,

527
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Speaker 1: and unfortunately just didn't happen for him. But I know

528
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Speaker 1: Lions fans respect them and appreciate them, and they're out

529
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: in droves to support him and for the Rams and

530
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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to be in the super Bowl, which is

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Speaker 1: what the only expectation was. Of course, the plan is

532
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Speaker 1: to win. It is pretty remarkable. It usually doesn't happen

533
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Speaker 1: that way. Do you hold a grudge against any player? No, no, no,

534
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Speaker 1: nothing that happened in your career, chief, I don't. I

535
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Speaker 1: don't hold a grudge against anyone in my life right now.

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Speaker 1: And it's a good feeling, you know. Um, not to

537
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Speaker 1: get weird, but I you know, I've been meditating for

538
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: about eight years, got into mindfulness and it's part of

539
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Speaker 1: the whole wellness program which circles back even uh in

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Speaker 1: a roundabout way to the beer. But uh, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a grudge. I have no resentment towards anyone.

542
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: And uh and it feels good. Did you have a

543
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: grudge against somebody? I mean back in the day, you

544
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: at one time? But uh no, I'm kidding. Yeah, yeah,

545
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: there are other guys. Yeah, I would say, yeah, I

546
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Speaker 1: can name a couple that No, I you know, I've

547
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: kidding with you. I can tell about your fingers like

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: oh no, um, sometimes my timing is not as good

549
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: as it needs to be you know, on my delivery.

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00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: But but no, I've always loved being on your show

551
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Speaker 1: because I was just comment before I came on that

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Speaker 1: the reason I've enjoyed it so much is the questions

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00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: that you ask are questions I don't get asked. You know,

554
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: They're always outside the box. And and and I like that.

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00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: So I you know, I've always thought the world to you.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, I've had grudges in the past, and

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Speaker 1: uh and then I've just learned that ultimately you're the

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Speaker 1: one who suffers from that. And uh, so I've been

559
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Speaker 1: able to reconcile those and and now some of those

560
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Speaker 1: that that I feel like that we did have grudges

561
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Speaker 1: against one another are some of are some of my

562
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Speaker 1: closest friends, which is amazing. Final question, are you sending

563
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Speaker 1: us beer? Okay? All one? Fair enough, So I'm a

564
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Speaker 1: crack one. But after eight o'clock this morning? Yeah, we wait.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the discipline you want, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I've got. It's eight o'clock somewhere. He's t Roy

567
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Speaker 1: Aikman as Michael Irvan calling. Why did he call you

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Speaker 1: t Roy? Well, I used to call me Roy. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people do call me t Roy, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like a rod or you know. However,

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Speaker 1: there's a T and then there's a Roy. You know,

572
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Speaker 1: so it's understood it I helped this guy. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little slow. Oh that's right, it's and it's Roy. There

574
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Speaker 1: you go. The beer is called eight for the dreer

575
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: who consistently puts in the hard work. Troy and his

576
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: team are very conscious of what they put in their bodies.

577
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: And it's a light, refreshing beer that's brewed with organic

578
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: ingredients and those kind of beers are virtually non existent.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on this, Good luck with this. Oh, it's great

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00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: to see you. That's Troy Aikman. Jill. Come back more

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Speaker 1: phone calls after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every

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00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on

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Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Hey what's up everybody? It's me three

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Speaker 1: time pro bowler Le Warrington and I couldn't be more

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Speaker 1: excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game.

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Speaker 1: What is Up on Game, you asked, along with my

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Speaker 1: fellow pro bowler t J. Hushman, Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Plexico Burrs. You can only name a show

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Speaker 1: with that type of talent on it. Up on Game

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Speaker 1: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded

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Speaker 1: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me

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Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, t J. Hutchman's out of and Plexico Birds

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast from. He's coach Prime Coach, Dan Sanders, Jackson

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Speaker 1: State head coach and of course Hall of Famer joining

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Speaker 1: us on behalf of Gillette, which we'll talk about here

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Speaker 1: in a moment. Sorry, we don't have you in the

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Speaker 1: man cave, but you're looking good. How would you sum

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Speaker 1: up the last month for you? Dan? It's been great.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I gotta give you thanks, my man.

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Speaker 1: You remember this, This kind of started on your show.

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Speaker 1: I told you my plans on the show. We were

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Speaker 1: we in Miami. Where was that? That was Miami? It

607
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: was Miami. You guarantee that you would be coaching head coach.

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Speaker 1: But it started with you. I mean, it was a

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Speaker 1: reality I knew what I was getting ready to do,

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Speaker 1: and I thank you for the platform like you always

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Speaker 1: provide me. Man, you're you're a great guy. You know

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00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: that you're a great guy. Everybody loves you. Man, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. But when did you realize or come up

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Speaker 1: with the plan of how do I make this bigger?

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Speaker 1: The program might not be bigger recognition wise, but how

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Speaker 1: can I make this bigger wherever I go? Well, then

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Speaker 1: that's who I am. Coming into the NFL. You gotta

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Speaker 1: understand it. Even to back was one of the lowest

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Speaker 1: paid positions, but we performed and made it bigger going

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Speaker 1: into just taking that position and going from team to team,

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Speaker 1: a city, the city, everything was bigger. So this is

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Speaker 1: no different from once I played. That's just who I

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Speaker 1: am and that's what I do, and that's how I

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Speaker 1: go about my job. And I just want to make

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Speaker 1: people more comfortable. Alarm, sound alarm, and let people know

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Speaker 1: what HBCUs have And that's what I'm pretty good at.

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Speaker 1: Take me into the room or come into my living

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Speaker 1: room and sell me. I don't have to say you don't.

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Speaker 1: I ain't selling nothing. That's the thing about it. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't sell anything. I don't have anything to sell.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pretty much allow you to understand that I've

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Speaker 1: set on three sides of the table. I'm in the

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Speaker 1: living room like you. I'm the parent and I've been

634
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: the kid. Now I'm the coach. That's a that's a

635
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: that's a heck of an advantage because I know the

636
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: thought processes of everyone provided in this room. So I'm

637
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: not selling anything. But I'm gonna promise you that if

638
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you send me a boy, I'm gonna send you back

639
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: a man. Are you closing, mom? Are you closing the

640
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: actual recruit? It depends on who is the influencer influencer,

641
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: It depends on see all the times that damn, you

642
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: gotta understand, man. Sometimes it's the seven on seven coach.

643
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the high school coach. Sometimes it's the dad,

644
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the mom. Sometimes it's the uncle. You don't

645
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: know who it is. I focused on the heart and

646
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: I just tell I'm honest, man, I'm just brutally honest.

647
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm not promising you know, nil, I'm praying that you

648
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: get to the n f L. And I'm just telling

649
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: you what it is. I'm gonna give you an opportunity,

650
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make sure you're where you lay your head.

651
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be comfortable, and you're gonna get three meals

652
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: a day. Everything else is on you. If you ran

653
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: the NA, what would you do with name, image and likeness? Uh,

654
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: HBCUs are at a tremendous disadvantage because of the giving,

655
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: because of the boosters, because of the amount of visual

656
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: and understandings. So I would alter the rules. It would

657
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: be different rules for different for fcs other than FBS.

658
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: It's not equatable. It don't even make sense. So we

659
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: would be able to do a little more, a little

660
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: more with our kids. Would you put a cap on it?

661
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: You can't cap it? No, you can't. You can't cap it.

662
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the problem I have, Like you

663
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: have some guys that FBS is that you here that

664
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: man they're getting eight hundred or nine hundred a million dollars? Dan,

665
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: What have you seen them on? What are they endorsing?

666
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: I ain't seen it yet, but you have you know

667
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: an HBCU kid, you have someone like my son. You've

668
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: seen him with the Brady line with beats data Rade.

669
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: You you've seen the stuff that's tangibly you could see it.

670
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen any of the others. The kid that

671
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: left Ohio State that said he was close to How

672
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: do you let somebody walk away with close to the

673
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: million dollars that you said? The kid from Oklahoma that

674
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: left and went to South Carolina, how do you walk away?

675
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. And now you've got some of

676
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: the big schools depending in LAMB and every lambment that

677
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: signs get fifty grand. We can't compete with that, man.

678
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: We can't compete with that. There's no equality in it.

679
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: What would you have gotten at Florida State with name,

680
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: image and likeness? Uh? I probably had a probably named

681
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: image and likeness on the stadium, I probably stadium. Do

682
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: you still are you able to run at all? When

683
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: you go out to practice? You know when when kids

684
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: want to challenge you, well, well, Dan, I went through

685
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: some some heck of a things this season. So no,

686
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: not now. Before I went through all my trials and

687
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: trip relations to see I'm barely walking right now. So before, yeah, before, yes,

688
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I was. I was being able to show them, not

689
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: tell them what to do, but show them how's your health.

690
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm just getting better. I'm walking you know, I'm

691
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: walking slowly, slowly, but it's probably a cool walk that

692
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: you have. It's just a slow walk. I'm getting there.

693
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: It's a beat now, it's a beat in my head

694
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: when I'm walking. I was talking to Troy Aik when

695
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: Troy was with us last hour, and I said, better

696
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: athlete Dion or Bo Jackson. He said, well, I gotta

697
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: go Don. He was my teammate. Oh my god, let

698
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: me ask you better athlete you or Bo Jackson. I

699
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: believe I'm a better athlete. Bowl physically is a specimen

700
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: that his strength, his strength is. You're gonna see it

701
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: when he walks up to you and when he played

702
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: the game. But you're talking about basketball fishing you, Yeah,

703
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: I can do it. Wait, Hunter, he could out hunt me, okay,

704
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: but you can out fish him. I got a fish

705
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: him on day long. You know I would actually watch

706
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: that just you and Bow fishing and talking because we would.

707
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: You think about it. Bow and I have sat down

708
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: once and the locker room is Chicago when I was

709
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: playing for the Reds, I believe, and I wasn't playing

710
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: on that Sunday and he came over to our locker

711
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: room and I was at off day. We sat and

712
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: talked for hours. Man, I wish America would have been

713
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: able to witness that, and we want to do it again.

714
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: We haven't really sat down and just chopped it up

715
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years or so. And I love him.

716
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: One pul boy wouldn't have been no prime. How so

717
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Bo paved the way. Man. He set the bar. It

718
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: has to be something that a man chases, and he

719
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: set the bar for me to chase something man and

720
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: I applaud him for that. I never mentally was against

721
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: the bowl. I've always said, dang, that dude is unbelievable. Man,

722
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: and that challenged me to get to that level. Okay,

723
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: So who's setting the standard for you as a coach?

724
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: What are you chasing? Who are you chasing? Shoot? Coach Saban.

725
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: Coach Saban is the bar. Coach Saban is the magnet

726
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: cum Loti Man. Coach Saban at his program and the

727
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: way he runs this program is it is all of that.

728
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: I admire it. I love it. When we shot the

729
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Affleck Spot shoot, I took a few of my coaches

730
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: down to glean from their coaches. I know some of

731
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: his coaches on staff. We watched them in the off

732
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: season training. We've simulated a lot of things. He is

733
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: the goal standard and will always be. But you aspire

734
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: to be in the SEC or you aspire to be

735
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: in you know, and to dominate where my feet are.

736
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't say I'm gonna be in the SEC. I'm

737
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna be wherever my feet are. I'm gonna be dominant.

738
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Why didn't Florida State hire you? To begin with? I

739
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: have no idea. There were three others too, so what

740
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: But who are the other schools that made a mistake there?

741
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: They were parifi yeah whatever, yeah, but what was the

742
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: hold up? Excuse me? What what was the hold up

743
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: with these schools? And why? Why was their hesitancy? Well,

744
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka, you know, I'll come from a chocolate factory. Man.

745
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they well Willie Walker running. I

746
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't hear the commissioner yesterday say anything about Willy Wonka

747
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: or during this press conference there do have something to

748
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: do with What would you suggest to the commissioner about

749
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: hiring practices in the NFL with minorities? I would go different,

750
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm not fighting for the coaches. I'm a

751
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: guy that's an advocate for ownership. I would want to

752
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: expand into three more cities. I would say, let's expand

753
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: to three more cities, and three of those cities we

754
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: have to mandate um African America or ethnic ownership, and

755
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: let it roll wherever it may be. But it has

756
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: to be a mandate three cities wherever those are has

757
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: to be ethnic owned. I like that, Yeah, I like that.

758
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: At the middle level, let's go to the top and

759
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: see where it falls. But you know, Dan, it feels

760
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: like every year it's Groundhog Day and the commissioner has

761
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: the State of the Union, and we keep talking about

762
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: the hiring practices, and then next thing you know, we

763
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl, and then we move on to

764
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: the combine and then the draft, and then we forget

765
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: about all of this stuff. You can't make no bigg

766
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: and there hire who he yes, who he doesn't want to.

767
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. You can't make me hire a

768
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: cook of housekeeping that I don't want to have in

769
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: my house. That's my house. You're not gonna come me

770
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: and tell me what to do in my house. It's

771
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So let's just go to the top

772
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: rathers own the house. Then we call the shots in

773
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: the house the Pro Bowl. I saw where you're tweeting

774
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: about how they the Pro Bowl doesn't have an identity.

775
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Don what uh what could we do? Can we salvage

776
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? No, because the players are different, that

777
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: the thought processes are different, so it's unsalvagable. Salvageable, you can't.

778
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: They don't want to play, they don't want to participate,

779
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: They don't want to compete anything after the season. They

780
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: do not want to compete. And it's afraid of the

781
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: injury and aspect as if we didn't think about that

782
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: as well. But you know, when you're a competitor, man,

783
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: you don't think about getting hurt whatever if on the field,

784
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: I didn't think about, oh man, I may get hurt

785
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: and I get in the car think hey man, I

786
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: may have accident. No, you have on protection. That was

787
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: absurd were transpired in Vegas. It really was we gotta

788
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: you gotta go in a different direction. That's not right.

789
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: The fans don't deserve that. The players got to really

790
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: think about what they're displaying on field. I don't know

791
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: who was the guy that came up and said, guys,

792
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: we're just gonna play touch football man. Oh yeah, got

793
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: he should be fine. Did you ever ask a quarterback

794
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: to autograph for interception ball? No? That practice I did

795
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: in college, But practice I did. But you would never ask,

796
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't trade jersey to take off my jersey

797
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: and give it to another man after game either. I

798
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: would never do that. I would never. I'm gonna fight

799
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: and go ahead against Jerry Race and you were gonna

800
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: stand there on the field after the game. No that man,

801
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: We we weren't friendly like that. We were cool, me

802
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: and Playmaker. I love him to life, but we weren't

803
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: doing that after the game. I didn't want nothing to

804
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: do with you. No. No, the game has shade everybody,

805
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: even in the NBA. Man, everybody's friends now, man, everybody's homeboys,

806
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: and everybody look up to one another. That you planning against,

807
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm not lit it up to the guy planning against.

808
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not putting him on a pedestal. I'm

809
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: trying to destroy him. What are you doing with Jilytte?

810
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: So wonderful? Thanks man, Giletta provide me options and I

811
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: love it. And I gotta get this tagline now. It

812
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: gives a shave and quick and easy as watching your

813
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: face and ask to God on his truth. I'm a

814
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: shaver man. If I don't, if I go a day

815
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: and a half with that shave, I'm fully great. I'm

816
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: fully great. And Gillette makes it so darned easy for me.

817
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: They're doing some wonderful activations at the Super Bowl um

818
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Um National check out Santa Marca, go to Gillette dot com,

819
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: slash skates. They're doing some wonderful things, man, some wonderful giveaways,

820
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: and I'm excited. I mean, I'm a Gilette guy. My sons,

821
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I've talked to them how to shave at an early age.

822
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: They were able to do partner with me in this

823
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: campaign and I love it. I really do. So. If

824
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I go to Jackson State, I don't get name, image

825
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: and likeness. I just get a razor. No, no, no,

826
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: you don't get named. If you're good. If you're good,

827
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: you gotta play. But how can I? How can I?

828
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: How do you have value coming out of high school?

829
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: How do what is your value? You? Betta? You gotta

830
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: prove something? Right? I would think you have to prove something, man,

831
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get it. I'm happy to these

832
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: kids are making money they're doing the thing. Well, you

833
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: got to prove yourself. That's that's the world I lived in,

834
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: that's the world I grew up in. You got to

835
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: prove yourself first, and I might have to come down

836
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: there and work out. You got to. We're gonna make

837
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: sure you properly shaved. Would you let I can finally

838
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: beat you in the forty You can't right now. I

839
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: can beat you, and I don't care when I beat you.

840
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: But if I beat you, that's it. Right now, I

841
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: think you can't. It's small window and I like my

842
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Speaker 1: chances here not together. I don't have all my digit

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you, so always, congrats and thanks again.

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Speaker 1: You're class act. Man. I love you. And let me

845
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Speaker 1: tell you something I haven't forgotten about those grills. You

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00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: bless me so much. Those grills are unbelievable. Man. Well,

847
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Speaker 1: I got Chad from Tregger out in the parking lot,

848
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: and he is. They're cooking up lunch today and tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with the Tregger grills. I'm thankful for Gilette and my

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00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: relationship ship with them because I actually say every day,

851
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: but what you did for me with Treg, I'm serious.

852
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: Every time I grew I think about you every time

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00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: we brought something to think about you. Man, So I

854
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you, Dean. Let's uh Dion Senators, Jackson

855
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: State head coach and of course Hall of Famer joining

856
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Speaker 1: us on behalf of Gillette. Max Crosby of the Raiders

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00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: set to join us next. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

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Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. He's Max Crosby, the Las Vegas Raiders

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Speaker 1: defensive end, Pro Bowl Defensive MVP and a fourth round

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Speaker 1: pick out of Eastern Michigan, and Max joins us on

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Speaker 1: the program. I believe is Max ready? He's coming on

868
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Speaker 1: the hallway. I hope he didn't go to the track

869
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: or crow. Yeah, we'll get some more phone calls as well.

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00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler on the program tomorrow, Come on in, Max,

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00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: uh and or your on Prumber last coach joining us, Hi, Bud,

872
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: what is up? How are you doing I'm doing great,

873
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: doing great. Uh, well, we got some uh got some

874
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: jewelry on today a little bit. What are you going?

875
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: What's the what's the most expensive thing on you father watch?

876
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: I just got it. How much you said, it's more

877
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: than I would like to play? You know, every year

878
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: I got it after the season I have to, you know,

879
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: I always get something just kind of yeah, okay, but

880
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: do you have to clear that with anybody when you

881
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: make it? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I do. You know. I

882
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: do a very good job of, you know, managing and

883
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: keeping things in order. But you know, once in a while,

884
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: I getta gotta spoil yourself a little bit. You're kind

885
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: of a breakout star this year. Do you feel that way? Um?

886
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, nationally, nationally, yeah, I've noticed you more attention

887
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: and things like that. Um, But for me, it's just,

888
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: you know, I try to stay in the day as

889
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: much as I can. I don't try to look too

890
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: far in the future, too far in the pass. So,

891
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's awesome getting the attention and things

892
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: like that, but staying humble and staying staying grounded is

893
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: just as important. Now I don't know how valuable it

894
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Speaker 1: is to be the most Valuable defensive player in the

895
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl where nobody tackled anybody. Max, But I mean,

896
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Speaker 1: I don't know where you put that trophy in your

897
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Speaker 1: trophy case when they go, oh, is that the Pro

898
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Speaker 1: Bowl where nobody tackled anybody? Okay? Who who? Lets everybody

899
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Speaker 1: know what was the agreement where we go, we're just

900
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Speaker 1: going to have two hand touch. Honestly, there wasn't an agreement.

901
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Once the game started, I got off the ball and

902
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: I noticed everyone was kind of moving in slow motion.

903
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: So I was trying to like act in a way

904
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: to try to you know. But as a game went on,

905
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, there was a big bonus. So you know,

906
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: Vrabel is a competitive guy. He wanted to win. Everybody

907
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: on our teams like, all right, we're gonna like kind

908
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: of go with the flow, but we wanted to win.

909
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, there's a couple of third downs

910
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: before downs where we kind of were rushing a little bit, okay,

911
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: but for the most part, somebody had to go we

912
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Speaker 1: put our The officials had to know this as well.

913
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: When Mac mac Jones is running and then they put

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Speaker 1: their hands on they blow the whistle and I'm like,

915
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Speaker 1: and Mac he keeps jumping, you know, he's going towards

916
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: the end zone. Yeah, that was the tough thing is

917
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Speaker 1: the short yardage was the hardest thing in the whole

918
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Speaker 1: game because you get to fourth and two or third

919
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: and two whatever, you run the ball and someone just

920
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: touches the running back it was done. So you basically

921
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Speaker 1: had to throw the ball every single play. So it's

922
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Speaker 1: gott of a fine line there. Did you talk amongst

923
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Speaker 1: each other? Now? Really, there wasn't any agreement or like

924
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Speaker 1: a common ground of just everyone was just kind of

925
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: chilling the whole time. So yeah, it's definitely tell the

926
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Speaker 1: story as you've I'm sure done many times this week.

927
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Speaker 1: Now you got the extra X in Max. Yeah, so

928
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Speaker 1: as a child, you know, I was as I was

929
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Speaker 1: being born, I was almost twelve pounds and I was

930
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Speaker 1: stuck in my mom. So I was literally couldn't they

931
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Speaker 1: couldn't get me out. My mom almost killed my mom,

932
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Speaker 1: so they had to break my shoulder to get me

933
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Speaker 1: out and my mom. As I was being named, obviously

934
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Speaker 1: they knew I was gonna be Max, but they put

935
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Speaker 1: an extra X on there, let's say, as because I

936
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Speaker 1: was Yeah, I was double X. I kind of you know,

937
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Speaker 1: it kind of worked out, you know how I might

938
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Speaker 1: have added another X on there, but then that might

939
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Speaker 1: have been signified a different career there for Yeah, yeah,

940
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: catapulted to me where I needed to go. Also, tell

941
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: me if this is correct that you weren't the most

942
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: famous guy in your high school. Uh no, I wouldn't

943
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: say so. I feel like, who was the most famous

944
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: person in your high school from my high school? Um,

945
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: that's tough. Christian Potter was a former Collivill hairt This

946
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Speaker 1: guy was there somebody I feel like, you know, somebody

947
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: that I don't know, and that's I'm probably gonna get

948
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Speaker 1: in trouble. Now. Did post Maloon go to No, he

949
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Speaker 1: went to Grapevine Arrival. Oh oh yeah. But he's a

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00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs fan too, cowboy fan. I thought he was a

951
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: chief fan. Now, didn't he go perform with the Chiefs

952
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl? He might? Oh, he

953
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: might have done that if they pay him. Yeah, oh,

954
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: but he's a cowboy fan. He's a die hard cowboy fan.

955
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: Unless he changed, I don't know. I haven't let him

956
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Speaker 1: talk to him. You know how these kids are nowadays,

957
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: They change. I got your draft profile there. There's a

958
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: piece of paper right there now, Now, this will be good. Now,

959
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: so Aaron Rodgers has done it, Von Miller, JJ Watt,

960
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: They've all done this. So you're you're in line with

961
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: some Hall of famers there. We just talked. We just

962
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: took the bad stuff that they said about you coming

963
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: out of Eastern dishing. This will be good, all right,

964
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: So you ready, yes, all right, go ahead? All right?

965
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Dominated smaller competition and hasn't been tested by lee blockers.

966
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: I understand that somewhat okay to degree gets caught standing

967
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: up out of his stance, which is disastrous for a

968
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: small chested Are you small chested? I guess so that.

969
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: I've never heard that one before that that was weirdly descripted.

970
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Now these are real profile I believe it. Okay, we'll

971
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: struggle to control the point as a pro I've yeah,

972
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I heard that a lot lacks explosiveness out of his stance,

973
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: forcing him to play catch up coming off the line.

974
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: That's tough. I don't know, you ran a four six forty.

975
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: I know that's tough for me that your biggest weapon

976
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: feels like being explosive. I feel like that, especially at

977
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: that time. I was a lighter guy. But you know

978
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Um can be tight in the hips,

979
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: especially early in pass rush. What does that mean? I

980
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I guess a little stiff

981
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: is what they're trying to say. But I don't know

982
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: what early in pass rush? Man isn't I don't know.

983
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: Is that early in the game or I don't know. Okay,

984
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: either early in the game, are like early in the

985
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: beginning of the play or something. I don't know. Okay,

986
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Running backs and quarterbacks break from his clutches. Interesting. Wow,

987
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Not in the Pro Bowl they didn't. Yeah, I guess exactly.

988
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: Elementary Russia, elementary Russia approach and fails to use hands

989
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: as consistent weapons. I think I know who wrote that,

990
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think I do. Okay, but I won't

991
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: nail them because yeah, but that's actually that's funny. I

992
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: like that. Wow, which one bothers you the most? Um?

993
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: I think the elementary the elementary Russia approach or the

994
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: small chest to defend that? Yeah, the small chested I've

995
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: never heard a guy described this small chest. Wow. Pro

996
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: comp Jeremiah tach Um. Let's do the Max cromsby Max

997
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: bench one. Rep Paully you go first, boy, I'm gonna

998
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: go force seventy five. I might be low four seventy

999
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: five benches. Wow, that's a lot of way seaton. I

1000
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: just gonna go three seventy five, all right, Fritzie, I'm

1001
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: gonna say four ten. It's small chested. He was small

1002
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: defensive end for the way. I'm gonna do one bench,

1003
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: one rep, three forty it's probably around there. Yeah, yeah,

1004
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: I haven't done a since, like a one rep max

1005
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: in a long time, but probably be around three. Yeah,

1006
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: probably three forty three fifty somewhere in that range. Maybe more,

1007
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: maybe less. I don't know. Strongest guy you've played against

1008
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: um probably probably Tyronn Smith. Oh yeah, he's His hands

1009
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: are the strongest things I've ever felt touched my body.

1010
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: If we played Dallas this year and me and Yannick

1011
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: after like the first series, we both we would flopping sides.

1012
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: We can't to the bench. We looked at each other like, bro,

1013
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: you gotta just if his hands around you, it's over.

1014
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: It's over. Yeah, he's it's I don't even know to

1015
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: explain it. You can't move, so, yeah, you gotta speed

1016
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: to power on him. It's the only way do you

1017
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: know hold grudges. Do I hold grudges? Not anymore. I

1018
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: feel like, as a younger guy, used to care about everything.

1019
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: But if somebody cheap shots you in the nfl um,

1020
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: goes at your legs or anything like that, not really

1021
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm used to it. I feel like that's like tight ends.

1022
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna go at my legs because they

1023
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, go chess and chess with

1024
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: you so well you're a small chesters. Yeah, small chesses.

1025
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: I guess maybe not, but yeah, you know, I don't

1026
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: hold grudges like that. You know, I feel like I

1027
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: tend to get over things pretty pretty quick. You're joining

1028
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: us on behalf of Reframe. Yes, you want to give

1029
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: the speel. Yeah, we can give a quick little run down.

1030
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, Reframe best best sobriety app in the world.

1031
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: You know it just it gives people a tool, you know,

1032
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: to stay sober. It's a community. It's gotta um. You know,

1033
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: they do a great job. You know. For me, I'm

1034
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: a guy who's a part of that community. Almost two

1035
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: year sober. So you know, this app is a is

1036
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: a great, great thing for people. When did you know

1037
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: you needed help? Um? Honestly, I feel like since the

1038
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: day when I first started drinking, I knew I was

1039
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: a little bit different than everybody. I couldn't handle it

1040
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: the same. So yeah, you know, it just it just

1041
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: got progressively worse as time went on. So um, once

1042
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: I got to that point where I just looked myself

1043
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: in the mirror, I was like, what am I doing?

1044
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm in the NFL. I got a lot

1045
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: of things going for me, and it was the one

1046
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: crutch I've always had. So um, I got to a

1047
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: point where it was just unmanageable, So you know, I

1048
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: had to had to make a change. But also we

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00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: use it as a crutch because sometimes we're you know,

1050
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: in social situations like you lean on a beer. You

1051
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: know today I'm now funnier or I'm more engaging with people.

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: Did you do then? Yeah, you know I feel like it.

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Like you talked to a lot of

1054
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: people drinking problems or smoking whatever it may be. Um,

1055
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: it helped them in that way. Like for me, I know,

1056
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: it was like my safe been grace as a young

1057
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: kid because I was insecure growing up and things of

1058
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: that nature. But once I took that first drink, I

1059
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is my thing. Like

1060
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: I was in love because I could go up and

1061
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: talk to that girl that I wanted to talk to it,

1062
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. So yeah, you know, early

1063
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: on it was like it saved my life. I was

1064
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: I needed it. But then after time, you know, time

1065
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: goes on, it just became something that was continuously holding

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00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: me back. How important or tent twos to you. I've

1067
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: always loved tattoos, and even when I was like young

1068
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: in high school. You know, my first tattoo, I literally

1069
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: took my brother's ID and he looks nothing like me,

1070
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: and I went into the tattoo shop and they just

1071
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: looked at me. And I was seventeen. They're just like,

1072
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: all right, and just let me. Let me do it.

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00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't normally look at a man's stage,

1074
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at your thigh. That is that a map? Yeah,

1075
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: so I got Michigan here in Texas here, and I'm

1076
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: getting the whole my whole legs done everything. So yeah,

1077
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: it just hurts. So I haven't finished it yet. Oh,

1078
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: the thigh hurts a lot horribly. Yeah, the thighs are terrible.

1079
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: The back of the neck terrible. Okay, but why do

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00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: you do it if it hurts so bad? I just

1081
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: like how they look, you know. But I don't like

1082
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: going to the pan. I try to get numbing cream,

1083
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: but it wears off after a while, so you just

1084
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta suck it up. Which the one where

1085
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: he went home and mom went, what are you doing? Um,

1086
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. My mom is like my best friend.

1087
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: So she's like she wants me to do stuff like that,

1088
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: like if I if I love it, She's like, oh, yeah,

1089
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: I go do it. Max. Like I was a kid

1090
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: and she I came home with a big tattoo. My

1091
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: first one was on my forearm. I just punched myself

1092
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: in the chair. It's I got this big one on

1093
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: my grandma, my great grandma, on my forearm, and it

1094
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: was just I was in high school and she was like, oh,

1095
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: I love it. She was encouraging me to get it.

1096
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: So like my mom, Yeah, my mom's awesome. She in

1097
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: that way. She's just she's like my biggest fan of

1098
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: my dad is just kind of sit back and be

1099
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: like he doesn't like yeah, He's like I do whatever

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Uh. It's great, too great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Congratulations on all your success. Um, you can

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Speaker 1: hang with us as we get ready to close out

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Speaker 1: the show. Fritzie on the show tomorrow is We've got

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Adam Standler at Orgeron and Drew Brees once again. Max

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Speaker 1: was joining us on behalf of Reframe and uh for

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Speaker 1: more detail reframe dot com. Can you go to that, Max?

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Speaker 1: Do you know if the Yeah, so it's an app,

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01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 1: so you go an app store download it and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the smooth reframe app. Reframe app. Great,