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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your

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Speaker 1: host Tony Peterson. Hey everyone, welcome to the Wire to

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Speaker 1: Hunt Foundations podcast, which has brought to you by First Light.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tony Peterson, and this episode is all

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Speaker 1: about looking back on your deer season and taking a

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Speaker 1: little time to digest the good, the bad, and ugly. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I know it's not over for everyone. Hell, it's like,

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Speaker 1: actually not really over for me yet. I'm heading to

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Speaker 1: southwest Wisconsin in two weeks to go on a little

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Speaker 1: dough hunting mission. So technically it's not a rap I guess,

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Speaker 1: but let's just say it is for the hell of it.

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Speaker 1: After all, even if the season is still open for

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Speaker 1: quite a few hunters out there, quite a few hunters

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Speaker 1: aren't really getting after it very are in the late season.

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Speaker 1: So let's just say the curtain is closed, and the

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Speaker 1: old sun is set, and first fistful of soil has

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Speaker 1: rained down on the coffin that contains your deer season.

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Speaker 1: What do you do now? That's what this episode is

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Speaker 1: all about. I love saltwater fishing. It's a passion that

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Speaker 1: I've come into over maybe like the last decade, and listen,

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Speaker 1: this is maybe the biggest first world problem ever. But

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Speaker 1: it's really not a great hobby to have as a

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Speaker 1: Minnesotan who makes outdoor writer kind of money, because it's

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Speaker 1: not like I can just catch a quick flight to

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Speaker 1: somewhere beachy and warm anytime I had the urge to

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Speaker 1: go fishing. It's more like once a year type of

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Speaker 1: thing if I get lucky, and that's almost always paired

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Speaker 1: with my family, a family that contains big and small

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Speaker 1: people who like shopping and swimming and non fishing related activit.

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Speaker 1: He's quite a bit that means, just like it is

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Speaker 1: with mountain hunting, I know my time is limited for

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Speaker 1: this thing that is pretty special to me, so I

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Speaker 1: want to make the most of it. The few days

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Speaker 1: a year where I get to saltwater fish, I just

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Speaker 1: want them to be the best they can be. When

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Speaker 1: I'm done with them, I think about how to make

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Speaker 1: my next trip better so I could just be more

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Speaker 1: efficient and enjoy it more. So let me break down

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Speaker 1: my fishing this past March in Florida, the sea trout

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Speaker 1: were biting the whiting or somewhat biting the hardhead catfish

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Speaker 1: were definitely biting, so whore a bunch of random fish.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty damn fun. But I also figured out

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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff about saltwater fishing, or me specifically

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Speaker 1: saltwater fishing. I figured out that instead of buying shrimp

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Speaker 1: like crazy, I could neet some bait fish myself. That's

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Speaker 1: a twofer because you get the fun of throwing a

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Speaker 1: cast net, which is real addictive, but then you get

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Speaker 1: the fun of using that catch to fish with. I

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Speaker 1: also figured out that four inch swim baits paired up

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Speaker 1: of predatory fish in the ocean, and that was a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. But I also figured out that if

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Speaker 1: catfish are really eating right at sunset, I might hear

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Speaker 1: the sound of a very expensive travel rod and a

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Speaker 1: I also figured out that if I take a different

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Speaker 1: to know why, Well, because I tried to throw a

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Speaker 1: It was so very pain and full but sometimes fishing is.

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Speaker 1: What I didn't realize is that no matter how much

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Speaker 1: The lessons I learned from that trip are mostly what

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Speaker 1: me more of what I want to do with my

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Speaker 1: limited time ocean fishing. Now, what does all this one

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Speaker 1: reflect a little. The deer season, archery, gun, muzzleloader, whatever,

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Speaker 1: That mitigates some of the mistakes because the sheer amount

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Speaker 1: might add that you always have some time left, of course,

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Speaker 1: until you don't. So what happened with your season? Scratch that,

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Speaker 1: because I know we're going to think about the deer

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Speaker 1: all do. A good season is one where we killed

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Speaker 1: it's not all bullshit, but it's partially bullshit. Here's why

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Speaker 1: this lesson isn't supposed to make you a better hunter now.

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Speaker 1: It could if you think back to some of your

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Speaker 1: mistakes and make a plan to remedy them. I've talked

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Speaker 1: If you missed now, If you missed a buck, do whatever,

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Speaker 1: practice more. If you got busted a lot, figure out

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Speaker 1: how to set up better. If you didn't see a

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Speaker 1: and short grass, time to get to the gym. Some

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Speaker 1: I think about my season, actually my last three seasons,

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Speaker 1: And that's really the ticket, my friends, and it matters

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Speaker 1: to every part of this. Sure, there is supposed to

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Speaker 1: That's a given and a write of passage that really

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be dismissed. But you should learn to love the process.

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Speaker 1: You should think back to what you enjoyed and what

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Speaker 1: to plan a better year this year. Now, let me

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Speaker 1: explain this because it gets confusing for everyone, and I

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Speaker 1: mean everyone. It's kind of like, if you don't work

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Speaker 1: going to be? People, it's going to be to lose

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Speaker 1: weight rate. That's an admirable goal, but it's the wrong

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Speaker 1: That's a trap, it's a trap to think that working

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Speaker 1: feel better physically, of course, but also mentally. If you

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Speaker 1: With deer hunting, we always look at this type of

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Speaker 1: But it's the wrong goal. The goal should be to

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Speaker 1: what you like. Maybe as an example, you've listened to

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Speaker 1: You do you, But for me, the best feeling as

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Speaker 1: antlers or everything, and I'm over the trophy stuff and

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Speaker 1: I just want to have fun. But what do you want?

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Speaker 1: Do you want the trophies but only see dinks. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you should do that while also scouting more and more

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Speaker 1: didn't cross paths, that's on you. Maybe you hunt it

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Speaker 1: Maybe you decided you would scout your ass off in

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Speaker 1: don't know, you took your first trip and you loved it,

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Speaker 1: Or maybe all of your buddies took a trip and

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Speaker 1: you didn't because you couldn't afford it. And now you

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Speaker 1: hear that we are in a recession, and you go

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Speaker 1: each week. Some of the best deer hunting options out

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Peter. Since this has been the Wired to

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