1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: Here, independent media just played a truly massive role in 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: this election, and we are so excited about what that 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: means for the future of this show. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: This is the only place where you can find honest 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: not exist anywhere else. 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: So if that is something that's important to you, please 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: go to Breakingpoints dot com. Become a member today, and 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: you access to our full shows, unedited, ad free, and 11 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: all put together for you every morning in your inbox. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We need your help to build the future of independent 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: dot com. 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't help in terms of public perception when immediately 16 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: after announcing in a pre edited statement where you're wearing 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: a baseball cap and you know, something Saga would be 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: concerned about and me two at this point, no tie, 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: just you know, at your golf club, just casually announcing 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: that you're dragging us into another Middle Eastern war with 21 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: no particular endgame, and you know no end inside Nordy 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Americans dying in this war. Immediately afterwards, what do you 23 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: do if you're president of the United says, let's put 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: this up on screen now you put the tie on. Actually, 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: then after announcing the war, and you go to your 26 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: club with all of your multimillionaire and billionaire buddies to 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: hang out and party and celebrate sending America's sons and 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: daughters off to fight and die in an illegal, horrible, deadly, chaotic, 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: disastrous war. So this was a million dollar plate fundraiser 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: he was hosting there at mar A Lago in the 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: hours after announcing this war. And so you can imagine 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: that being one example of why perhaps Americans are not 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: feeling so excited about this administration at this point, let 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: alone this war that we've been dragged into. Put we've 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: got some pulling here now, early indications of. 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: Support for this. Let's put D two up on the screen. 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: This is from Reuters where their headline was just one 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: in four Americans twenty five percent supports US strikes on run. 39 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: So you can see the numbers there, and of all adults, 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: you've got about twenty seven percent in support. You've got 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: forty three percent opposed. I want you guys to understand 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: how crazy and keep these numbers up on the screen, 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: how crazy this is. I don't know if y'all have 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: been watching cable news, but CNN and Fox in particular, 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the pro war propaganda is through the roof. 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: Many have been saying it would be hard to see 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: how CNN can get even worse under the Ellisons. But 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll figure out how to manage that. Barry 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: will rise to the occasion to make it even worse. 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: But it is so bad, and in spite of that 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: overwhelming war propaganda, you still have only twenty seven adults 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: who are like yes to this. 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Even in the. 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: Republican Party, a majority support of fifty five percent, only 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: thirteen percent outright opposed. You've got a big swat. There're 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: thirty two percent that are like not sure. Democrats only 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: seven percent support. I mean, I think they're all elected 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: here in DC. Apparently all seven percent of those Democrats 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: that support this. And then with the Independence you've got 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: nineteen percent support. Let's put the next one up on 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: the screen to see another poll. 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Here you go. 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,559 Speaker 4: This is from the AP. Twenty one percent only. 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: Support it in this particular poll, and a near majority 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: forty nine percent oppose. Thirty percent say that they are 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: not sure. Let's compare this. Let's put D four up 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: on the screen show. We compare this to support for 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: previous wars, which also ended disastrously. By the way, the 69 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: Afghanistan War, there was overwhelming support because you know, the thought, okay, 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: there was an actual connection between Afghanistan and nine to 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: eleven Bin Laden was genuinely hiding out there, and so 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: even Democrats ninety percent were in support of, Okay, let's 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: go into Afghanistan. And even that, we see the way 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: that twenty years later it was a total catastrophe and 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: just ended with the Taliban back in power. The Iraq War, 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: you can see overall, even though there was some descent, 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: I was part of it, there was some descent, but 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: still overwhelming support. Seventy two percent supported military action in Iraq. 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: Think about that, and now here we are today for 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: a Ran thirty four percent, thirty four percent supporting military 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: action against Iran. 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: And that is that. 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: Is likely to be effectively at the peak because already 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: things are going sideways, and I want people to take note, 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: and we're going to do some of that. We're going 86 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: to cover some of this tomorrow of especially the you know, 87 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: a bunch of the Republicans are basically going to go 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: along with whatever Charn you'll have very You'll have some 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: notable and very courageous dissenters, Thomas Massey, maybe Ran Paul, 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: maybe a couple others. 91 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: Okay. 92 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: On the Democratic side, you have a divide. You have 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: some people who are quite clear no war with Iran, 94 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: and then you have the bullshit process group that are like, Wow, 95 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: he didn't brief us and he didn't make his case. 96 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: Then he needs to make his case the American people. 97 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: I want you all to remember who those people are. 98 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: Take note of where everyone is right now, because I 99 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: believe a year from now, even I don't even think 100 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: it's going to take that long with the rocket took 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: years with this, it is going to be very quick. 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: There will come a time when basically everyone opposes this 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: action and seize the folly and the disaster that it 104 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: ultimately is. 105 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: And I want you to look and. 106 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: To remember who said what right now at the time 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: when it shouldn't even be that. 108 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: Difficult because the public opposes it. 109 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of money on the other side 110 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: of the equation, pressuring people, APAC being one of them, 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: pressuring people, pressuring elective members of Congress to support this insanity. 112 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: Pay attention to who they are, Do not let them 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: off the hook. Do not fail to remind them that 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: they were on board with this utter catastrophic disaster. 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: Which is exactly why a war Powers resolution is so important. 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: You need to get on the record. 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: I want it now, I want it yesterday actually, because 118 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: now they're going to try and mealy mouth their. 119 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: Way out of this, and we need this for everybody. 120 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the only good things about this 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: is that many of the people have been exposed as 122 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: complete frauds. Tomorrow will have a whole list of all 123 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: the people who said that they were against this, ran 124 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: on it literally and are now saying opposite things out 125 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: of the sides of their mouth. You know why that's important, 126 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: Getting people on the record and then reminding people in 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: the future like we did to Hillary back in two 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 3: thousand and eight. That is what saves you, because look, ultimately, 129 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: we can only judge based on past behavior for what 130 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: your decision is going to be. And yeah, as you said, 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: it's not even that courageous to speak out right now. 132 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: It's just apparently, like so outside the realm. 133 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: Of possibility for anybody on mainstream media to even. 134 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: Think about to the's what to do? 135 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: It is so shocking. 136 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the mainstream media and all these people, you know, 137 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: CNN would always try to reach out to me to 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: talk about Epstein or whatever when Israel or Iran, and 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: they know, you know, oh nothing, you know, there's no 140 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: there's no incoming text messages asking me to appear on 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: their network. 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: Interesting, isn't it? Or even the Epstein thing. 143 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: I'd be like, sure, but I'm going to talk about Israel, 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: and then of course, you know, everything would just go 145 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: away in terms of their request. 146 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of how Les right now. 147 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: And I do think it's important to think about the 148 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: lack of manufactured even consent for this war. 149 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Put D three up here on the screen. This is 150 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: from the New York Times. 151 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean, only twenty one percent of Americans support the 152 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: United States initiating an attack on Iran. 153 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: Only twenty one percent. 154 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: And you know you talked there about history, and this 155 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: is where I never thought I would say this, But 156 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: you got to give it to Bush. He went the 157 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: Coalition of the Willing, even though it was fake, the 158 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: Coalition of the Willing. Every member of Congress was forced 159 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: to vote on the question. We had months of Fox News. 160 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 3: You don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 161 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: You had Judy Miller and yellow Cake and the famous 162 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: vial that was held up by Colin Powell. The surrent 163 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: security accounts vast majority of Americans supported it. 164 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Everyone pretends they weren't for it. 165 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: They were everyone ever comes to even I think back, 166 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: Vietnam massively popular all the way up. 167 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: Until you had people who a lot of people were 168 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: being killed. 169 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: And by the way, even when I mean I'm talking 170 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: about hundreds of Americans were nying, like in the span 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 3: of a month, even then, a lot of the people 172 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: still bought into the propaganda. Yeah, and we're like, oh, 173 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: we need you know, peace with honor and all this 174 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: other stuff. 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: This they didn't even try. 176 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: I mean, even Maduro, it was like fifty to fifty 177 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: people mostly moved on. They're like, look, as long as 178 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: there's no Americans getting killed whatever, I don't particularly care. 179 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: There's no chaos. Can't say that about this. There's chaos everywhere. 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: And you know, part of the problem was they moved 181 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: into this. They I think, to the extent that people 182 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: paid attention it was all news junkies. The vast, vast, 183 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: vast majority of people had no idea. 184 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: This was happening. 185 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: They don't follow carrier strike group movements and statements from 186 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: the Pentagon and Barackravid reporting. They just woke up on 187 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: was a Saturday morning and they're like, oh my god. 188 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: They're like, I can't believe this is even happening. And 189 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: then they probably turned on their TV. There's no president 190 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: to speak to them. We have a pre recorded Brandon 191 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: style message. And then whenever they're worried, let's say you're 192 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: a military family, I know some and you see that's 193 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 3: the way it is. Do you remember we shredded by it. 194 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: Remember his press conference after those thirteen Americans were killed 195 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: at Abby Gate. 196 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: I mean we shredded him here. 197 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: Remember when he got quiet and he was dementia ridden 198 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: and leaning like this on the podium trying to trying 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: to analogize the death of his son from cancer to 200 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: somebody getting blown up by ISIS in Afghanistan. This is 201 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: up there with Oh, that's the way it is. That's 202 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: the way that we talk about dead American servicemen. 203 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: This is a nightmare. 204 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 4: And in parents that was to get out of a war. 205 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: This is getting us into a war and so casual 206 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: and I you know, I feel like a broken record. 207 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: I keep tying it back to the Epstein files. But 208 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: you see, you see in the Epstein files. You see 209 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: the way that they look at other humans. They don't 210 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: see they don't see you or your kids as human 211 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: in the same full way that they see themselves and 212 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: their class allies and their fellow you know, Epstein class 213 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: allies as full human beings, and that's why they're able 214 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: to so casually send people in to fight and die 215 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: in these wars. And you know, I mean the backdrop 216 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: here is you've got people who can't afford homes, who 217 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: are you know, prices are still way too high. You've 218 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: got you know, a full court press to develop AI 219 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: that is going to eliminate many white collar jobs. That 220 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: the promise or the threat is eliminate all white collar jobs. 221 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: That's the backdrop. Healthcare premiums. They didn't you know, they 222 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: couldn't extend the ACA healthcare subsidies, let alone God forbid 223 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: actually like come up with a good healthcare plan so 224 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: that people had universal health care like every other developed 225 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: country in the world. So you've got premiums skyrocketing, and 226 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 2: you're supposed to deal with a new regime of austerity. 227 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: But is there any I mean, is there any contemplation 228 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: here if you heard anyone say like, oh, how much 229 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: is this going to cost? Like that's that was a 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: lot of money that just got shot out of the 231 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: sky and I watched, you know, fall into the ground 232 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: and crash and burn. How much do these carrier striker 233 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: what does that deployment cost these you know, these new 234 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: service members who are being brought in Like what, No, 235 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: because austerity is fakey. That's that's what you really should 236 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: get for that. There's no austerity when it comes to 237 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to an empire, when it 238 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: comes to waging these wars. And you can go look 239 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: at the stock market today and you can see many 240 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: stocks are falling, but you know what's doing really well, 241 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh the military industrial complex, the Delton defense stocks. 242 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: They're they're cooking. 243 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: And again you can see in the Emstein files is 244 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: the way that Epstein would talk to you know, would 245 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: talk today hud barag would talk to other people say, oh, 246 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: this chaos, this war, this is great for us, This 247 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: is great for us. We're going to profit off of this. 248 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna make lots of money. We're going to have 249 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: more power. We're gonna be able to situate ourselves even better, 250 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: We're going to be able to entrench ourselves even more 251 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: in the affairs of the entire world. And so that's 252 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: the way they that's the way they look at this. 253 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: So when you see this and you you look at 254 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: the polls, you're like, okay, like twenty percent of the 255 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: American public supports this, and you're dragging. 256 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 4: Us into this. 257 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: It's it is laying bare the fact that they do 258 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: not believe, like, they don't believe in democracy, and they're 259 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: exposing in the fact that they don't think we live 260 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: in a democracy. They don't think that people get to 261 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: have a say, they don't think that our opinions should 262 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: matter at all, and they think that they have degraded 263 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: our system enough so that they don't matter at all. 264 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: That's what this tells you. That's what this action really 265 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: tells you. 266 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 267 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: I think though, that they also see us as cattle, 268 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: because they will just move on and look, they're not 269 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: wrong to a certain extent. Most a lot of the 270 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: people who do for them are cattle. I lived in 271 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: George W. Bush Country in Iraq. It was seven and 272 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: you still had dead enders who were like I support 273 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: the president on the Iraq like, don't underestimate the capacity 274 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: for stupidity and for cultish behavior in a significant part 275 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: of the country. And that is honestly, that's maybe one 276 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: of the things that worries me the most on this. 277 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: Maybe some people are awake on the question. I definitely 278 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: think independence and a lot of the political energy class 279 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: are like the people who are engaged in politics are especially, 280 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to underestimate a significant none. 281 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a financial crash and a 282 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: deadly war we have, I mean, look, look, you already 283 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: have you already have Trump in the thirties in terms 284 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: of his approval rating. You are absolutely right. I will 285 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: be the first to tell you that, Like, it is 286 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: a cult, and there are people who will never leave 287 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: and it does not matter what happens. But they are 288 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: far from the majority. And you know, and I think 289 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: even within the you know, people who voted for Trump 290 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: three times, I think you will see some slice of 291 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: them at least say, you know, this is not great. 292 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: And we see it in the poll numbers too. 293 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: With the strong support for Trump versus the support for Trump, like, 294 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: those numbers have shifted significantly, so you know, going into 295 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: a rock. 296 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: We just showed the numbers. 297 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: It was seventy percent of the country that was on 298 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: board with that to start from twenty percent. And things 299 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: are already going sideways and we're not even hearing from 300 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: the President. 301 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: Of the United States. I don't know. 302 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: I think I think this will be it's just catastrophic 303 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: on everything. Well, I hope it just catastrophic. 304 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: I hope that they I hope that they get punished 305 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: beyond belief. But I'm still just I just remember I 306 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: remember Bush, I remember growing up in that in that 307 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: environment and being I feel like I'm going fucking crazy. 308 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: Here's the real believer, Here's the real thing. 309 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Is that I think they they already know that if 310 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: it's a free and fair fight, like they're cooked in 311 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: the midterms, if it's any sort of like legitimate election, 312 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: and so I think that is the other calculus here, 313 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: Like we've already seen them throw out a potential We 314 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: had that that memo that came to light of them 315 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: declaring a national emergency over bamboo ballots China interference in 316 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: the elections. So they have their floating that the potential 317 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: Madureau deal. There was reporting on that which you know, 318 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: seems like a fever dream conspiracy. Apparently they really are 319 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: thinking of getting Maduro to be like, oh yeah, I 320 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: totally rigged the election from Venezuela with Hugo Jabas's ghost. 321 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: You've got Tolsi doing something in Puerto Rico, you got 322 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Tolsi doing something, and Fulton County, and now you have 323 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: this war with Iran where Trump also said that Iran 324 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: interfered in twenty twenty as well. So he is looking 325 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: for a way to not just mess with the elections, 326 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: but to Clara national murn to move the elect I mean, 327 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: really seize control of what's going to happen here, because 328 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: I think he knows that he's, you know, electorally a 329 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: dead man walking already. So I do think that is 330 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: part of the calculus that's going into this as well 331 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: as you try to wrap your heat around why any 332 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: president would do something that is so profoundly stupid and unpopular. 333 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think actually what's ironic about this is 334 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: that the more unpopular he gets, he will actually increase 335 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: the amount of people. If he was strong or even 336 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: medium like going into something like this, you would have 337 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: like some sort of a solid foundation to be able 338 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: to argue off of I don't think that's going to happen. 339 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I just talked about the dead enders. 340 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: There's also a significant portion of let's say even I mean, look, 341 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: you had Republican senators even who are coming out and 342 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: saying that they might vote I guess a war Powers 343 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: resolution like the you know, the level of weakness that 344 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: you're starting to get into. 345 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: You could go past George W. 346 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: Bush, who was around thirty percent at the height of 347 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: the war in Iraq, and there was an incredible amount 348 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: of people who are like, all right, we got to 349 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: give in. You know, even you know McCain even, and 350 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: all of them would criticize Trump on the campaign trail. 351 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: They've got serious, serious problem. 352 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: No, I agree with you. I mean, it's an incredible act. 353 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: Of hubris to think that you could just That's what 354 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying, that you could just impose your will on 355 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: the entirety of the American public at basically the barrel 356 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: of a gun. 357 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: Like I even in. 358 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: Actual dictatorships, the public still is going to have a 359 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: say at some point. You're still somewhat constrained by like 360 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: what people are going to tolerate. And yeah, if you're 361 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: if you are causing a financial collapse, people are struggling 362 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: to afford like basic necessities. You're threatening to take all 363 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: the jobs away with AI, and you're getting us into 364 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: a disastrous war. You know, I think you're going to 365 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: be I think I think you're going to People are 366 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: not going to just go along with you. Also rigging 367 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: and stealing deal actions. I think they'll have something to 368 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: say about. 369 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: Thatsh Yeah, no, no, okay, all right, let's get to 370 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Sachs, Professor. He's standing by, very excited now to 371 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: be joined by our friend of the show, Professor Jeffrey Sachs. 372 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Good to see sir. Thank you so much for coming back. 373 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 5: Great to be with you. 374 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: I wish it was under better circumstances. We did, of course, 375 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: want to turn to you for a bigger picture of 376 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: what this all means. Let's go and first start with 377 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: our first element, Prime Minister bb Netanyah, who's saying the 378 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: quiet part out loud. He says, in bombing Iran, Israel 379 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: has now the assistance of the United States, my friend 380 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump in the US military. This coalition of 381 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: force US allows us to do what I've yearned to 382 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: do for forty years. 383 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Forty years. 384 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: It's a dream that the Prime Minister had despite all 385 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: of the alleged pretexts about preemptive attacks, nuclear strikes, ballistic missiles. 386 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: This is something that has been the heart of the 387 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: bb Netanyah who projectors was wondering if you could react 388 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: to that and frame your general thoughts around this entire 389 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: regional war that has now erupted. 390 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 6: I hadn't seen that quote, but if he said, what 391 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 6: an asshole he is. I've been saying that for years, 392 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 6: that this is his dream, his campaign. I've put it 393 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 6: at thirty years since nineteen ninety six, a doctrine called 394 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 6: Clean Break, which was a madman's document of a madman 395 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 6: bb net Yahoo and his arch neocon extremist desionist advisors 396 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety six that basically was the blueprint for 397 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 6: NonStop war in the Middle East. And NOWT Yahoo says 398 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 6: what I've been saying. When I've been saying it, people 399 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 6: have sometimes scoffed, But oh it's now I know. It's 400 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 6: a forty year plan, not just a thirty year plan. 401 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 6: The man is a psychopath and this is the reality 402 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 6: of it. We have been roped into endless war by 403 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 6: these extreme Zionists, and we're now in an ever greater 404 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 6: escalation to full regional war for the purpose of Israeli 405 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 6: hegemony in the Middle East. Of course, it aligns with 406 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 6: the mad men in Washington who and Langley who want 407 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 6: US hegemony in the world. 408 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: But that's what this is about. 409 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 6: They don't count how many schoolgirls are dead. They couldn't 410 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: care less. That's the whole point. There's nothing in this 411 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 6: about the dead. This is all mad men's delusions. 412 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Let's go and put up E two on the screen here. 413 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: So Trump is saying now he wants to talk to 414 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: the Iranians after assassinating their supreme leader and bombing their 415 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: country and starting this war. He told the Atlantic quote, 416 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: they want to talk, I've agreed to talk, so I'll 417 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: be talking to them. On the contrary, though, it does 418 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: not appear that the Iranians want to talk for understandable reasons, 419 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: especially after we use diplomacy now multiple times in a 420 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: row as a ruse in order to attack their country. 421 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: But what do you make of this outreach from President 422 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Trump and also the relative silence from the administration after 423 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: launching this war. 424 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 5: Trump's crazy. 425 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 6: He may even believe this but he's crazy, or he's psychopathic, 426 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 6: or it's what's called the dark Triad personality, extreme machiavellianism, 427 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 6: inability to understand anything, murder the other side and say 428 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 6: we love you. That's his approach. It's completely spiraling out 429 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 6: of control. I don't think he's the only agent of this, 430 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 6: by the way, I think this is this is the 431 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: CIA longstanding effort. What bt Nyahu said again, I'm better 432 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 6: informed this morning, thanks to you. It's forty years, not 433 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 6: thirty years. I always put it at a thirty year effort. 434 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 6: But we have gone to war in Libya, Sudan, Somalia, 435 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 6: Occupied Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Iran for this extremist, 436 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: delusional purpose. And what have we gotten out of it? 437 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: Millions dead, but we're not supposed to count the dead, 438 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: trillions of dollars of loss. Chaos from Libya to Iran, 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 6: I mean chaos, a region across the entire North Africa, 440 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 6: Horn of Africa and the Middle East in chaos because 441 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 6: of this insane Zionism and the US complicity in it 442 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 6: and the delusions of control. How many wars will we 443 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 6: get into? But you know, interestingly, two points one. The 444 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 6: American people see through this entirely. They're completely against this. 445 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 6: Trump Well, to say that Trump lied is to sound 446 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 6: like an idiot. Of course Trump lies every time he 447 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 6: opens his mouth. But his campaign was about not doing 448 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 6: exactly this. But he's a puppet. He's a puppet of 449 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: the CIA, and a puppet of Miriam Aedelman and a 450 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 6: puppet of a bb Net Yahoo. So he's a puppet 451 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 6: or blackmailed or something. So this is one point. The 452 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 6: American people are completely against this, and as the Gallup 453 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: poll showed last Friday, the American people are on the 454 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 6: side of the Palestinians. Both make complete sense. This is 455 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 6: a madhouse. This is not in any remote way rational, deliberate, legal, honest, 456 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 6: aimed at our security. It's aimed at the delusion of 457 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 6: complete control. Yeah, well, yeah, you can't control the world 458 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 6: this way. Mad men have tried for millennia. We're just 459 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 6: the latest in this. But it comes to a very 460 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 6: bad end. 461 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: And I think that we're saying that all right now, 462 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: especially with people like Lindsay Graham at the forefront. Why 463 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: don't we take a listen to his comment about what 464 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: the future of Iran should look like? Sounds a lot 465 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: like what we have had in store for Iraq. Let's 466 00:23:59,640 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 3: take a lot. 467 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 7: The social media post Sunday, President Trump wrote this quote, 468 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 7: Hopefully the IRGC and police will peacefully merge with the 469 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 7: Iranian patriots and work together as a unit to bring 470 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 7: back the country to the greatness it deserves, is hope. 471 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 7: The plan for the future of Iran. 472 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 8: No, the future of Iran is going to be determined 473 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 8: by the Iranian people. The new Iran, whatever it is, 474 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 8: whether it's a cleric or a representative democracy, our goal 475 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 8: is to make sure it cannot become again the largest 476 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 8: state sponsor of terrorism. 477 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 5: That's a win for us. 478 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 7: But is there a plan to make sure that happens? Senator? 479 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 7: Is there a plan? Does the President have a plan 480 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 7: to guarantee that that happens. 481 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 8: No, it's not his job or my job to do this. 482 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 8: How many times do I have to tell you? Our 483 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 8: job is to make sure Iran is no longer the 484 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 8: largest sponsor of terrorism, to help the people reconstruct a 485 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 8: new government. No boots on the ground. We don't own 486 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 8: you know this idea, you break it, you own it. 487 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 8: I don't buy that one did. It's an America's interest 488 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 8: to make sure, the Iotola is dead. 489 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 5: He's dead. 490 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: He doesn't buy that. 491 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: You break it, you own it, he says, dodges the 492 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: question there about any sort of plan that's currently in place. 493 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 3: As you were saying earlier, it seems now like a 494 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: literal madhouse in this government. Literally, Sarah, while you were talking, 495 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: I just have to read you this quote from the 496 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense. This is not a so called regime 497 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: change war, but the regime sure did change. This is 498 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: what we're dealing with now currently. 499 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, secretary of war, I have to correct you. Well, 500 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 5: start defense, I said, Secretary of Defense. But yeah, we 501 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: have war. Yeah. 502 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 6: Well, I've spent decades, along with bemoaning bb Netnaho and 503 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 6: clean Break, thinking that Lindsey Graham is the stupidest person 504 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: in Washington, the most vile. That's a very tough competition, 505 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 6: by the way, but that man has never opened his 506 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: mouth in thirty years without wanting more deaths of other people. 507 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 6: And now he also says so clearly, no responsibility. I 508 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 6: would like the American people to understand. I'm sure that 509 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 6: they do. But just to clarify, we have been meddling 510 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 6: in and destroying Iran now for seventy three years actively. 511 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: It was in nineteen fifty three that the CIA and 512 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 6: MI six overthrew the democratically elected and popular government of 513 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 6: Prime Minister Mosadek. They did it because Mosadic had the 514 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 6: complete audacity to say that the oil in Iran should 515 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 6: belong to the Iranian people. This was far too much 516 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 6: for Alan dolls at the CIA and for MI six, 517 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 6: who knew full well the oil in Iran belongs to 518 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 6: Britain and to the United States, so they overthrew him. 519 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 6: In that case, there was a quote successful regime change 520 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 6: operation which put in place a police state, the state 521 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 6: led by the puppet, the Shah of Iran. In nineteen 522 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: seventy nine, he was overthrown in a mass revulsion against 523 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 6: decades of an American imposed police state, and this government 524 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 6: came into power immediately. Immediately, the United States armed Iraq 525 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 6: to kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians in the Iraq 526 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 6: Iran War between nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty eight. Saddam 527 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 6: Hussein was our guy. He was the CIA's guy. Of course, 528 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 6: when the CIA is done with you, they kill you. 529 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 6: So Saddam became the worst enemy of the United States. 530 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: Soon afterwards, after he had done the bidding of the 531 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 6: United States for years. Since then, it has been actually, 532 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: now I know, since nineteen eighty six, it's been bb Netnyow, 533 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 6: who's a dream to overthrow the Iranian government. I always 534 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 6: counted it as nineteen ninety six, but the United States 535 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 6: has been using every subterfuge, covert operation. It has been 536 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 6: using assassinations, economic warfare, crushing the Iranian economy ever since. 537 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 6: The Iranians have said all that time they don't want 538 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: a nuclear weapon. Bb netnew who is a psychopath, said 539 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety six they are weeks away, days away, 540 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 6: months away. And he's been saying that for thirty years. 541 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 6: For all I know, he's been saying it for forty years. 542 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 6: He is a vulgar, blatant, genocidal liar. I hope I'm 543 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 6: being clear. This is we're dealing with something absolutely dangerous 544 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 6: in this world that is running our country. So it's 545 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 6: extremely dangerous. The Iranians did not want a nuclear weapon. 546 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 6: The religious leader who they just assassinated was the one 547 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 6: that said no nuclear weapons. It's against Islam, so kill him. 548 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 6: It had nothing to do with nuclear weapons. All this time, 549 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 6: the Iranians reached out constantly to negotiate, and in twenty 550 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 6: fifteen they concluded an agreement with the United States, Britain, France, Russia, China, 551 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 6: and Germany the p five countries plus one called the 552 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 6: Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, and it put Iran strictly 553 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 6: under UN supervision in the International Atomic Energy Agency. Bib Neetnia, 554 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: who had a fit because he wanted to overthrow the government. 555 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 6: He did not want peaceful relations with a non nuclear Iran. 556 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: So Donald Trump, who is a puppet of our Cia, 557 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 6: Mosad and Miriam Madleson in the rest, ripped up the 558 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 6: JCPOA in twenty eighteen. That's the story. Then they bombed 559 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 6: one of Iran's nuclear facilities. And by the way, during 560 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 6: the period from twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen, Iran stuck 561 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 6: with the agreement, even though the United States cheated on 562 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 6: the agreement that it signed because it was supposed to 563 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 6: and the US sanctions which it did not do. Then 564 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 6: Trump ripped it up. Then they began a campaign of assassinations. 565 00:30:53,560 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 6: Then they began bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. And that's the story. 566 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: They don't want an agreement. Last year they negotiated and 567 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 6: then in the middle of the negotiations bombed Iran. This year, 568 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 6: again they negotiated and then bombed Iran. You might ask, 569 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 6: why did Iran come back to the negotiating table this 570 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 6: time after the falsity last time. I'll tell you why. 571 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 6: It's a little strange. It's a little weird. But nobody 572 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 6: behaves as badly as the United States. So it's very 573 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 6: hard to calibrate when there is a government that says 574 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 6: we're negotiating, when they bring in a mediator, in this 575 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 6: case Oman, when the US negotiators Witkoff and Kushner say, oh, 576 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 6: we're making progress, it's hard for other people to calibrate 577 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 6: the evil that's under it. This was a premeditated war 578 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 6: and the negotiations are a pretext. So this is what's happening. 579 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 6: It's amazing, it's you don't see this anywhere else. 580 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 5: In the world. 581 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 6: By the way, at the emergency meeting of the UN 582 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 6: Security Council that I attended on Saturday, you see how 583 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 6: we're in the looking glass because one country after another 584 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 6: attacked Iran for its violence. Even Bahrain called it unprovoked 585 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 6: attack by Iran. Well, it's actually easy to do the 586 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 6: scorecard if your country hosts the US military. First of all, 587 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 6: it means that you also host the CIA. It means 588 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 6: you are an occupied country. And so everyone that spoke 589 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 6: against Iran as an occupied country by the United States. 590 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 6: These are not independent countries. When we listen to Mertz 591 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 6: or to Macron, or to the Danes or to the British, 592 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 6: the US military and CIA is all over those countries 593 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 6: and has been for decades. These are not independent voices. 594 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 6: These are part of the vassal states of the empire. 595 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 6: This empire is destroying itself in its bloodyness, its bloody mindedness, 596 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 6: its murders, its wars, its debts, the trillions of dollars 597 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 6: we're spending in this. But this is an empire that 598 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 6: is behaving so shockingly that others actually can't calibrate. They 599 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: don't understand that negotiation means we will come to murder you, 600 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: and that the best thing is we will murder your 601 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 6: religious leader. 602 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and put E five up on 603 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: the screen to your point about the golf allies here. 604 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: So there was a Saudi analyst who went on Al 605 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: Jazeera and told them, quote, America has abandoned US and 606 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: focused its defense systems on protecting Israel leaving the Gulf 607 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: states that host its military bases at the mercy of 608 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 2: Iranian missiles and drones. And we have seen some impacts 609 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: throughout the region, including unbelievable images in Dubai, which is 610 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: of course a playground of the global rich, where some 611 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: of the luxury hotels have been hit. I can scarcely 612 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: wrap my head around the level of you know, damage, 613 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: brand damage and economic damage that will be done over 614 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: the long term. What do you make of these comments 615 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: and potentially a reassessment that is being done here by 616 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: the Saudis as they see that the US is number 617 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 2: one priority is ourselves and the Israelis well. 618 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 6: I would refer them to two observations, first by President 619 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 6: John F. Kennedy and is Inaugura address, he said, those 620 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 6: who would ride on the back of the tiger often 621 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 6: find themselves inside it. In other words, you ride on 622 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 6: the back of a violent empire, you become a victim. 623 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 6: So the Saudis have known full well they host US 624 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 6: military bases, the Gulf countries host US military bases. The 625 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 6: behavior of the United States is brazen and illegal, so 626 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 6: this is what comes. I would also cite Henry Kissinger's 627 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 6: famous adage that to be an enemy of the United 628 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 6: States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. 629 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 6: So these countries need to grow up. They need to understand. 630 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 6: Does the Arab world want to be a vassal of 631 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 6: the United States. I don't think so. Does that provide 632 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 6: them security? I don't think so. And incidentally, the damage 633 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 6: to an entrepos like Dubai is devastating. This is supposed 634 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 6: to be the place where it's safe to bring your family, 635 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 6: to bring your money, to come for vacation, not to 636 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 6: be in a hotel that is bombed. This will have 637 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: a very, very long shadow on the region. But that 638 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 6: is the miscalculation that these countries have made. They've watched 639 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 6: the United States and Israel committed genocide in Gaza. They 640 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 6: were quiet because they're occupied. They think this is safe. 641 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 6: This is not safe. The safety in our world is 642 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 6: to speak the truth. It's not to go along with 643 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 6: the brazen evil of power. 644 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: Finally, I'm just curious for how you think you we 645 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: talked there about the UN Security Council. There's been a 646 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: lot of big talk by the President of Canada or 647 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister of Canada. The New World order is changing, 648 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: he immediately supports the regime change war with Iran. You 649 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 3: just talked here about the vassal states of Europe. For 650 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: how long are their populations going to put up with this? 651 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: We just did a segment about blowbacks pecifically across the 652 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: entire Middle East, including a possible terrorist attack right here 653 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: on our own country, reminiscent of many of the scenes 654 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: from the war in Iraq and the so called global 655 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: war on terror. Do you think this is going to 656 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 3: be a prolonged kind of earth shaking geopolitical movement or 657 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 3: is there any point at all for us to be 658 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 3: able to pull back from the brink and Trump can 659 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: just falsely declare victory and move on, or is just 660 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: the genie out of the bottle completely. 661 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 6: I just want to point out that a momentous event 662 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 6: last week, which seems like a different world because it is, 663 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 6: was when the German Chancellor Mertz went to China and 664 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 6: there were clips of him watching the Chinese robots performing. 665 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 6: He was watching something the United States can't do, Europe 666 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 6: can't do. He was watching a country that is at 667 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 6: peace and that is moving forward technologically, that is investing, 668 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 6: that is at the frontier of technology to the United 669 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 6: States in the meantime is mass murdering people, killing people, 670 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 6: running a budget deficit of seven percent of GDP, and 671 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 6: can't keep our goddamn infrastructure working at all. You come 672 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 6: back to any American infrastructure, any airport. Nothing works, not 673 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 6: the escalators, not the elevators, not the walkways, nothing works. 674 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 5: Our government is half shut down. 675 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 6: So the reality is we are doing ourselves in this 676 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 6: way under this quest for global hegemony. That's the real 677 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 6: story here. How self destructive this is, by the way, 678 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 6: how much Trump lied every word about claiming that he 679 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 6: was going to stop this. He didn't stop it at all. 680 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 6: He just opened up the floodgates of more killing. 681 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: Frusser Sax, thank you, as always for your insights. We're 682 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: really grateful for your time this morning. 683 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 5: Thank you, sick to be with you, thank you. 684 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: All Right, guys, we've got yet another heavy hitter guest 685 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: and first time guest on the show, Professor Jang. He 686 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: is the star of the popular YouTube channel Predictive History. 687 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: He uses game theory to analyze past, current and to 688 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: predict future geopolitical events, and he joins us now. 689 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 4: Professor, great to. 690 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: Have you, goodness you sir, thanks ag Wating me. 691 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 692 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 2: So you know, for people who aren't familiar with your work, 693 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: I wanted to show folks that back in twenty twenty 694 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 2: four you made three big predictions, one that Trump would win, 695 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 2: two that he would start a war with a run, 696 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 2: and three. 697 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: That the US would lose that war. Let's take a 698 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: listen to that. 699 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 9: In this class the semester, I'm making three big predictions right, 700 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 9: First is that Trump will win in November. Second is 701 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 9: that the United States will go to war against Irad. 702 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 9: And the third big big prediction is that the United 703 00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 9: States will lose this war, which will forever change the 704 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 9: global order. 705 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: So obviously that last one is the only one that 706 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: has not yet come to fruition. Is quite a stunning prediction. 707 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: Do you stand by it? And what have you seen 708 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: so far that leads you to sort of stand firm 709 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: in that conclusion. 710 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 9: So, given my analysis of how the war's progressing, I 711 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 9: think that Iran has many more advantages over the United States. 712 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 5: The reality is that right now. 713 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 9: It's a war attrition between United States and Iran, and 714 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 9: the Iranians have preparing twenty years for this conflict. In 715 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 9: the eschatology in the religion. This is a war against 716 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 9: the Great Satan. They've had many practice runs. Last June 717 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 9: was a twelve day war when the Iranians were able 718 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 9: to examine analyze the strict capacities of both. 719 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 5: Israelis and Americans. 720 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 9: And they've had a lot of time eight months to 721 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 9: prepare folly for this new attack. 722 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 5: They through their proxies the. 723 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 9: Hoofis Hespella Hamas and that She militias, have been able 724 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 9: to really grasp the American mentality and now they have 725 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 9: a pretty good strategy of how to weaken and ultimately 726 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 9: destroy the American Empire. So what uh the Iranians are 727 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 9: doing is they're not They're waging war against the entire 728 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 9: global economy. And so they are striking the GCC countries. 729 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 9: And not only are they striking GCZ countries American basis, 730 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 9: they're going after the critical energy infrastructure of these bases. 731 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 9: They blocked up the trip Homus and eventually they will 732 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 9: go after the water desalidation plants, which is a lifeblood 733 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 9: of these nations because they don't have fresh water supply. 734 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 9: In fact, uh, the water desalidation plants provides sixty percent of. 735 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 5: The gsees water supply. 736 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 9: So if a drone and you know these drones cost 737 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 9: fifty thousand dollars, if they wiped out a desarvation plant 738 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 9: in read Sardi Arabia, and it's a city of ten 739 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 9: million people, right. 740 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 5: They'd be out of water in two weeks. In two weeks. 741 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 9: And right now the Ranians have the Facto closed off. 742 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 9: The Chevoe moves and the g C gets ninety percent 743 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 9: of its food from the Chevoll moose. So I know 744 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 9: a lot you're talking about the disruptions to global economy, 745 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 9: but right now the Iranians are actually threatening the very 746 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 9: existence of Saudi Arabia, uae Raan Qatar. And what this 747 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 9: is important is that the Gulf States are really the 748 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 9: lynchpin of the American economy. So what they do is 749 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 9: they sell petrol dollars and any recycle the picture dollars 750 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 9: back into the American economy, food investments in a stock market. 751 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 9: And right now we know that the entire entire market 752 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 9: economy is propped up by AI investments in data centers 753 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 9: and a lot of that comes from the Gulf States. 754 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 9: So if the Golf States are not longer able to 755 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 9: sell oil and they're longer able to finance AI. This 756 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 9: AI bubble United States, then this all public. 757 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 5: Will burst and with it will. 758 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 9: Will burst as well as well the entire American economy, 759 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 9: which is really a financial Ponty scheme. So that's that's 760 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 9: a dire situation that the markets are phasing right now. 761 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to your points there. 762 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 3: An Amazon data center was literally hit in the UAE, 763 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: and now, of course big tech companies which we're looking at. 764 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: The UAE is a major potential data center investment hub 765 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: with cheap and abundant energy probably going to be rethinking that. 766 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: We also wanted to talk to you about munitions. We 767 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: can put this next one up here on the screen. 768 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 3: United States is racing to accomplish Iran mission before munitions 769 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 3: run out. This is specifically around interceptor math. There's a 770 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 3: famous video just from yesterday in Israel which shows a 771 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 3: single Iranian ballistic missile which is being targeted by some 772 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 3: eleven different interceptors, all of which miss most of those 773 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 3: come from the United States, not to mention all of 774 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 3: the different bases the GCC countries that you just talked about, 775 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 3: and the asymmetry of the cost. It's a million dollar 776 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 3: for a missile, tens of millions per interceptor in some 777 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 3: of these cases, with these munitions running out, how does 778 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 3: that change the global picture? So you're in China, obviously 779 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: much of the stocks in Asia of the United States 780 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: are likely to have to be cannibalized if this were 781 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: to go on. How's that going to affect the global 782 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 3: picture here? 783 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 5: Right? 784 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 9: So my first point is that the United States military 785 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 9: is not design to fight a twenty first century war. Remember, 786 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 9: the Military Industrial Complex came to being after World War II, 787 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 9: and it's designed to fight the Cold War. And the 788 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 9: Cold War was really about uscle flexing about who was 789 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 9: able to send people up in the space, was able 790 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,959 Speaker 9: who was to first get the person on the moon, 791 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 9: who had the more complex missile systems, And so the 792 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 9: entire American military strategy revolves around very sophisticately sophisticated tech 793 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 9: technology that costs a lot of money to build. And 794 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 9: that's what the American in defense system is is, basically, 795 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 9: and that's why we're seeing this asymmetry, as you point out, 796 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 9: in this war where you have these million dollar missiles 797 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 9: trying to take out these fifty thousand dollars drones, and 798 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 9: it's not sustainable in the long term, and So what 799 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 9: we're seeing is really the puncturing of the aura of 800 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 9: invincibility and inevitability that sustained American hegendimony for the past 801 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 9: twenty years, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union. 802 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 9: And this is really a reordering of not just a 803 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 9: global economy, because this signals the collapse of the petro 804 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 9: dollar and with it the entire US dollar based reserve 805 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 9: currency system, but also global the global hegeminy of the 806 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 9: United States. 807 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 5: We're moving towards a multipolar. 808 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 4: World, professor. 809 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: This morning, Secretary of War Pete Heegsath was asked a 810 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: question about potential ground troops in Iran. He refused to 811 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 2: rule out that possibility, and he said, you know, well, 812 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 2: we're not going to project to you what we will 813 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 2: or will not do. What we don't want to, you know, 814 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: rule anything out. We will do what it takes. Do 815 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 2: you think that America will end up invading Iran from 816 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 2: the ground, since it's already becoming relatively clear they won't 817 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: be able to accomplish the goal of regime change or 818 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 2: even regime collapse using just air power alone. 819 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 9: Right, So everyone says that the worst calamity that could 820 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,439 Speaker 9: happen United States is if it were to say ground 821 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 9: troops into Iran the same time the United States ar 822 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 9: commentary regime change in Iran. We've never had a president 823 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 9: in history where you were able to regime change from. 824 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 5: The ear alone. You need ground troops. 825 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 9: And so unfortunately, what's going to happen over the next 826 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 9: few months is that pressure will build on America to 827 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 9: send ground troops, especially from the GCC countries and from Israel, 828 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 9: which are being powdered right now by the Iranians. So 829 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 9: remember that if the GCC country STUDI, Arabia, Qatar, UAE 830 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 9: but around, if they go, then the petro dollar goes 831 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 9: with them. So the Americans need to protect these countries. 832 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 9: And these countries are going to demand that either the 833 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 9: Americans bribe the Iranians to cease and this is like 834 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 9: fives in indemnity, okay, or send ground troops to wipe 835 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 9: out the Iranian thread once and for all. And I 836 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 9: know that there's no political will for ground troops to 837 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 9: be used against Iran among American people. Remember that seventy 838 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 9: eight percent difin people was against initial strikes against Iran 839 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 9: in the first place. 840 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: Right, And one of the things that really comes into question. 841 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 3: I think with all of this, or when we're looking 842 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 3: at the geopolitical picture and the sacrificing in much of 843 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 3: this from the United States on behalf of Israel, is 844 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 3: kind of a question as to who and what wanted this. 845 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 3: We were actually curious for your review on a disputed 846 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 3: report here from the Washington Post. We can put it 847 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 3: up here on the screen F three. A push from 848 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 3: the Saudis Israel helped move Trump to attack Iran. Now 849 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: this has been internally disputed by Saudi Arabia saying that 850 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 3: they did not push the Trump administration to attack Iran. 851 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: However, this is clearly. 852 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 3: An authorized leak from our own government trying to at 853 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 3: least lay some of the blame on behalf of the GCC. 854 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 3: What do you make of this analysis and of this 855 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 3: narrative that Saudi Arabia was also trying to be behind 856 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 3: this push to bomb Iran. 857 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 9: So I've always argue that both Saudi Arabia and Israel 858 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 9: are heavily invested in regime change in Iran. In fact, 859 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia sees Ran as much more of an eccent 860 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 9: crisis than Israel, because remember, Israel still has nuclear weapons 861 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 9: and Israel is a very diverse, very sophicated economy, whereas 862 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 9: Studi Arabia, it's completely reliant on oil. And it's always 863 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 9: had problems with Iran because Iran is a theocracy opposed 864 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 9: to the Saudi monarchy. Iran funds and equips the Houthis, 865 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 9: which have have been antagonistic towards Saudi rebear for the 866 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 9: longest time, and right now they started economy is suffering. 867 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 9: It's been trying to pivot towards marve Taurus economy. That's 868 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 9: why they brought in Renaldo, That's why they're switching to 869 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 9: the e gaming, That's why they're being some building something 870 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 9: called a line Neo, and all these things are not 871 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 9: working out. So they need to be able to control 872 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 9: the oil resources all the entire Middle East there to 873 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 9: survive and frag as a nation. So I do believe 874 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 9: that this reporting is credible, even though it does make 875 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 9: sort everybody look bad. I remember Sarata Arabia says that 876 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 9: they wanted peace, but they are helping this release and 877 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 9: Americans attack event right now because they're allowing the ares 878 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 9: reelies and Americans to use Saudi airspace. 879 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 2: So help us understand, because it still feels to me 880 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 2: like there are some pieces that don't totally add up. 881 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 2: You had in advance of this war on Iran, you 882 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 2: had top military brass up to the Chairman of the 883 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 2: Joint Chiefs of Staff saying, this is a. 884 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 4: Really bad idea. You know, we are not ready for this. 885 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 2: You know all the math on the interceptors that's been 886 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 2: talked about for months at this point, and yet Trump still. 887 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 4: Decided to go ahead. 888 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 2: What is the calculus that he was making here that 889 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 2: led him to take what you know already appears to 890 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 2: be catastrophic actions? 891 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 5: Right? Okay, So this is the key question, why do 892 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 5: they do this? 893 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 9: I think there are three possibilities, okay, and I think 894 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 9: all three possibilities are badalid. The first is that of Hubris. 895 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 9: If you look at history, this is how empires behave. 896 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 9: So the Mendoro kidnapping was quick successful, and it was 897 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 9: adrenaline rush for Trump, and that made him overconfident in 898 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 9: the capacity of the American military. Okay, So Hubris is 899 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 9: a factor, and we see this throughout history. What did 900 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 9: Hitler invade Salent because he conquered Europe really easily and 901 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 9: he thought it was invincible, right, and that led to 902 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 9: the destruction of the German army in the Soviet Union. 903 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 5: So Hubris is a factor. 904 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 9: Then you have to look at internal political calculus where 905 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 9: even though America does not benefit from this war against Iran, 906 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 9: Trump himself personally benefits. Why because the Saudis and Israelis 907 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 9: are bribing him to attack Iran. Remember that the Saudis 908 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 9: invested two billion dollars in the private equity fund of 909 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 9: Jared Kushner, who is the son in law of Donald Trump, 910 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 9: and through Mariam Aedilson, have been financing Trump's local career. Right, 911 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 9: So Mariam Adilson a few months back said that you 912 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 9: will put up twenty fifty million dollars if Trump were 913 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 9: to run a third term. So Trump is getting a 914 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,479 Speaker 9: lot of financial and political support from Assades and israel Is. Also, 915 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 9: remember that this will if this war goes sideways and 916 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 9: Trump is forced to use ground troops, he will probably 917 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 9: get approved from Congress and this will give him emergency 918 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 9: of war powers which will allow him to uh influence 919 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 9: the midterms. So Trump is thinking about a third term, 920 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 9: and I think at the bulock box he probably won't 921 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 9: get it. But if there's a war going on and 922 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 9: you can delay elections, and you have emergency war powers 923 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 9: and people rally on the flag, then. 924 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 5: He probably he probably will get a third term. 925 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 9: And the last factor that is very important is eschatological factor, 926 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 9: where if you look at the Epstein fouls, it's clear 927 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 9: that we are run by sacred societies. It's clear that 928 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 9: the world is run by these individuals who have a 929 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 9: lot of power. We don't know who they are, but 930 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 9: they control the military, they control the National security opretus, 931 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 9: and these people. 932 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 5: They're different names for these people. 933 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 9: You can home the Illuminati, and the Illuminati are composed 934 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 9: of three major groups. 935 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 5: Okay. 936 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 9: You have the Jesuits who control the Vatican, you have 937 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 9: the seventeen Francis, which control the mons Israel today, and 938 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 9: you have the Freemasons, which control the National Security appretus 939 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 9: of the United States, and they believe that Israel, this 940 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 9: one in Middle Ease, is key to the end times 941 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 9: in creating heaven on Earth. So it's almost like a 942 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 9: script that they're following, even though it doesn't make any 943 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 9: tiplical sense. Okay, so I would say that these three 944 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 9: are the best reasons why this is happening. 945 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 3: Wow, well, sir, I hope you come back. This is 946 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 3: very informative, I think for both of us. We deeply 947 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 3: appreciate your time. 948 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. 949 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: We went a little bit late today. 950 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 3: Gonna be doing the A m A tomorrow, so we'll 951 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: see you all then, Hm,