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Speaker 2: Rob g.

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Speaker 1: The reports just keep coming in from Chicago about Caleb.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody seems to be a fan of the former

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Speaker 4: number one. What would you call him? The generational prospect

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Speaker 4: that is Kayleb Williams. First, we had the Athletic tier

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Speaker 4: come out yesterday and he was ranked at the Tier

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Speaker 4: three quarterback. Something met him in the Tier four quarterback,

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Speaker 4: which says a lot, But all of the criticism basically

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Speaker 4: said some variation of the same thing. You had an

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Speaker 4: anonymous defensive coordinator says quote, in terms of processing ability

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Speaker 4: and getting the ball at his hands, it was the

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Speaker 4: worst we played against. Anonymous head coach says quote. His

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Speaker 4: processing to me was alarming watching the tape and in fact,

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Speaker 4: if you don't believe these anonymous gms and coaches, former

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Speaker 4: All Pro left tackle to Ron Armstead was at the

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Speaker 4: joint practice between the Dolphins and the Bears last week.

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Speaker 4: He said for yes, because he retired and he put

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Speaker 4: his name on it.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Caylorb's process playing that quarterback position has to improve fast,

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Speaker 5: and pretty fast. In my opinion, on a consistent basis,

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Speaker 5: Caleb was not able to recognize.

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Speaker 6: Where he was in danger.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't feeling pressure, he wasn't feeling blitzes, he wasn't

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Speaker 5: seeing blitzes and threats pre singapt Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, was able to send guys from all different

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Speaker 5: spots on the field and man, a lot of those

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Speaker 5: got home. A lot of those would have been sacks.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm just gonna I'm gonna say, I'll say

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Speaker 1: the choiet part out loud.

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Speaker 2: This is just an anti Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: They've never really liked Caleb Williams from this standpoint of

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Speaker 1: he paints his nails.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He cried towards mom in the stands. He's a different

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Speaker 1: kind of guy. Wanted a piece of the Bears. He

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Speaker 1: didn't want to go to all the other stuff that

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Speaker 1: came out. And there are a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: just don't like the guy.

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Speaker 2: Last year, he.

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Speaker 1: Had a fine rookie season, and it's funny other people

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Speaker 1: get a chance to develop and get better. Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: through thirty interceptions his first year. Nobody threw the toweling

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Speaker 1: or he doesn't know what he's doing with it, or

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Speaker 1: he can't read defenses. They allowed him to progress. And

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Speaker 1: last year, Kelvin, they were at least three games where

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Speaker 1: he marched his team down, gave them the go ahead touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and then the defense gave it back up. You remember,

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Speaker 1: including that hail Mary to Washington. You remember that game

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Speaker 1: he had actually taken his team down and they scored

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Speaker 1: the crowd when the hail Mary came in. And I'm

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Speaker 2: I just the noise to me.

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Speaker 1: With a new coach and a new coordinator, and people

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Speaker 1: gonna give Justin fields eight chances, right, three teams and

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Speaker 1: three Oh yeah, look at Justin fields, and here he is.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty touchdowns, six picks and too many sacks,

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Speaker 2: He needs to be more aware.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he doesn't need to make some changes,

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Speaker 1: but this fire Alarmer on Caleb Williams, I think is just.

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Speaker 1: I think it's personal, to be honest.

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Speaker 6: I'm addressed that personal a minute.

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Speaker 7: And Rob g you're saying they're not a fan of him.

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Speaker 6: I think the term is concerned.

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Speaker 7: So this is gonna happen when you're the top prospect

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Speaker 6: And I think he's getting some of that.

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Speaker 7: He's getting some smoke or some added extra sauce that

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Speaker 7: So I think he's getting some. Well, I should have

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Speaker 7: been on Trevor Lawrence a little harder. Let me make

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Speaker 7: sure I'm on Kayleb Williams a little hard. But all

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Speaker 7: of this comes with when you're the number one pick,

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Speaker 6: And now let's add to it.

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Speaker 7: You do have to add context if the same thing

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Speaker 7: that has been a concern for him coming out of

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Speaker 7: Mind you, he's got Ben Johnson, the offensive guru. This

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Speaker 7: is why people are ringing the alarm and they're saying, hey, hey,

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Speaker 7: they got a burn timeouts, they're getting flags up from

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Speaker 7: he was able to escape these things. He was able

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Speaker 7: to make plays happen. You look at the interceptions, they're low. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: because he ate a bunch of sacks. That's why you.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to go to the ball up for grabs.

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Speaker 7: What are you just but he has he has a

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Speaker 7: turn it over. He's trying to make too many plays.

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Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers was able to do that to the tune

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Speaker 7: The jury is still out, so Caleb Williams has to

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Speaker 7: process faster. We're hearing it from too many sources, from

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Speaker 7: his own Dagone team, in his own his own coach.

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Speaker 7: He's got to be better at getting the ball out faster.

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Speaker 7: He can no longer just rely on his talent that

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Speaker 7: has gotten them this far. And that is a fair

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson came right in after a couple of years.

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Speaker 7: Is now you and I talked about this last week

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Speaker 2: Well, but that's just that's the lesson.

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Speaker 1: That's the lesson is you can't pass judgment on people

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Speaker 1: so quickly, but you give Justin Herbert and he's a

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, justin Herbert or or who do or Lawrence

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Speaker 2: He's all this. He got, you know, a contract and

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Speaker 2: all that. My point is.

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Speaker 1: There is a little extra sauce because he's not conventional.

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Speaker 1: He's not the guy that that maybe people you know

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I'm saying that that factors in.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. He's not above criticism. That's not

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think he gets extra for some

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Speaker 7: I think he gets extra because the same problem has

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Speaker 6: You're supposed to be better by now, and I think why.

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Speaker 7: But you're saying it's personal, And I don't see how

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Speaker 7: you don't you think it's personal? What should do when

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Speaker 7: this dude is the number one pick a Heisman winner.

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Speaker 6: Of course it's gonna be for people.

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Speaker 2: What's the personal?

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Speaker 7: What I'm saying is, I'm saying it's if it's for Caleb.

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Speaker 7: To me, it's warranted. He's supposed to be that guy.

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Speaker 7: This is supposed to be the all.

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Speaker 2: What a new coach and a new everything new from

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Speaker 7: I just yes, because you can't go five for seventeen

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Speaker 6: You can't do that. This is a layup. This is

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Speaker 6: just a promo for the fans.

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Speaker 1: That that's that's nothing, that none of these games matter.

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Speaker 1: The Lions win four to o and then owen sixteen

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Speaker 7: No, nobody said you can't look horrible. You can't go

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Speaker 1: You think people don't have bad You think you think

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying this.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't even a game. He didn't even play in the game.

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Speaker 2: Of course you should he should play.

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Speaker 6: He didn't even play in the game.

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Speaker 7: Rob These are shorts and T shirts and he's out

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Speaker 1: That's so, I just think it's overblown, all right, you

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Speaker 2: I think it's over blest.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's saying he's about to be the worst play, But

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Speaker 7: it's warranted. He deserves some concern and criticism, and.

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Speaker 1: I just think they need somebody to be a whipping boy,

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Speaker 6: What the happening?

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Speaker 2: Get him? Paul, Ignore that fool.

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Speaker 2: He's still moving.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Los Angeles Dodgers and where they are,

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Speaker 1: which is not good.

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Speaker 6: I ain't lying about that.

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Speaker 1: People thought they were going to be the Beatles and

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Speaker 1: there was gonna be a runaway season, and they spent

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Speaker 1: another billion dollars in the offseason and they got all

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Speaker 1: that said they're going back to the World Series. Look

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Speaker 1: at the team, it's not fair. Do you remember fans

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Speaker 1: were saying it wasn't fair. And now here we are

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Speaker 1: almost in all I mean almost in September, a few

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Speaker 1: weeks away. Dodgers only have a one game lead against

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Speaker 1: the Padres, and so they're disappointing. I mean that's hard.

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Speaker 1: I know they're in first place. But if you don't

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Speaker 1: sure you've been following because you hasn't been fun. Mookie

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Speaker 6: Oh, the Dodgers have definitely been on the struggle bus.

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Speaker 6: That's without a doubt.

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Speaker 6: And now it's so bad.

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Speaker 1: Way under what That's what absolutely people were thinking that

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Speaker 7: And this is why we continue to tell people, yes,

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Speaker 7: that don't mean you're gonna win anything. Because the Dodgers

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Speaker 7: money doesn't necessarily mean anything. And the Dodgers are struggling

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Speaker 7: it's gotta be a sense of urgency, And you would think, well,

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Speaker 6: Don't you know?

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Speaker 1: And I'm serious is I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at these numbers, and other than run scored,

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: He's a leadoff hitter, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: yes it is. That means he's not getting any other

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Speaker 6: You've been watching them Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, come on, we could take a look at it

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Speaker 1: It's been a huge drop off and most of his

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you want something, and by now at that point

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Speaker 7: I agree with that, and he would agree with that

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Speaker 7: a couple things here. There's no debating this year is

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Maybe he's now a starting pitcher, so I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: what makes him so remarkable is that you did list

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Speaker 7: he's here where he is pitching, he's starting and becoming

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Speaker 6: So here here's the thing, too, Rob.

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Speaker 7: We've seen this with Steph Curry, Jo Kich, Brett Favre

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Speaker 6: It happens. It's that you're the metrics or the dot.

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Speaker 7: The dominance by you is so high that instead of

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Speaker 1: Well, but the only problem with that is he's not

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Speaker 1: And has it madeletter? But that's what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 6: Well, I just don't see.

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Speaker 7: I think for me, I'm not necessarily upset with some

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Speaker 7: from last year. Somebody's got alls run away with it

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Speaker 6: We have team. We have seen guys who teams weren't

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Speaker 7: You got Bryce Harper winning despite you know, they were

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Speaker 7: So I mean, baseball is the sport where you can

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Speaker 1: Agree, But I don't think that those teams had the

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Speaker 2: Would you get that?

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like in looking at this, there's

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Speaker 1: right now about what.

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Speaker 2: You've seen this year.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like with Mike Trout, nobody was expecting anything. With the Angels,

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Speaker 2: Would you say that's a considerable drop off.

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Speaker 6: That's a drop off.

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Speaker 7: The only my main other point would be someone else

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Speaker 7: is jumping out. Kyle Schubert's doing his thing forty two

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Speaker 7: I like it. But but there's no one running away

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Speaker 6: So I just think it's and not to mention he's still.

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Speaker 7: Leading the division now, granted it ain't a big league.

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Speaker 1: Is what if they don't What if they become a

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Speaker 6: That Well, he's still got a change. No, but.

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Speaker 7: I think for me, the biggest thing, Rob is you're

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Speaker 6: That's a massive But he.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't have any pitching that's to be crazy about, is.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: People are watching him pitch and they're saying, this dude

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Speaker 6: This is what baseball was waiting for it to have

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Speaker 7: This is what fans were waiting for, specifically Dodger fans,

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Speaker 1: Like if he would have wanted him won Nike his

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Speaker 1: first four I know, he's only baby steps, but he

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Speaker 1: hasn't won anything. He al rays two point four zero,

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Speaker 1: which is fine, you know, but he hasn't won a games.

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Speaker 6: But that's you can't just roll past that. Two point

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Speaker 6: four to one is incredible for god.

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Speaker 1: It also that's all that's only in fifteen innings. It's

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Speaker 1: just not a lot of pitching.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: I wish I have my What more do you want

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Speaker 7: from me? The man is coming back from injury. The

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Speaker 7: Man is coming back from a World Series title. Fifty

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Speaker 7: on runs plus fifty plus stolen bases.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm pitching? What more do you want from me?

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch five editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 3: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: That ball is It was a big week in the

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Speaker 2: big league.

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Speaker 6: Who's Who's a.

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Speaker 3: Is it foul or is it fair? And now from

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Speaker 3: mlbdbro dot com, here's JR.

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Speaker 2: Gamble, that's right, it is fouler fair.

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Speaker 4: Here on the Our Couple on Fox Sports Radio, a

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Speaker 4: segment we go around and I haven't discussed all the

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Speaker 4: biggest headlines.

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Speaker 2: At Major League Baseball, nor do so properly.

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Speaker 4: We had a brig bringing a guy who did some

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Speaker 4: real big last week, dropped off his kid in college,

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Speaker 4: real Roman type stuff.

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Speaker 2: None of ther.

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Speaker 9: Gamble, what's up? What's up? Drafted offing Tuesdays?

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Speaker 2: You mean he dropped off my godson.

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Speaker 6: Let's get it right, Rob g Oh snaps.

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Speaker 2: Now I got mentees and God.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, Rob, how many god kids you got to?

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Speaker 2: How many do I have? Four?

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Speaker 9: If they're out there, they're related to Robins.

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Speaker 7: Some way, somehow, JR. You don't understand. I can't go nowhere.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking, I'm just like having a casual conversation at

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Speaker 7: the coffee shop next thing.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I was wondering if you could like maybe

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Speaker 7: help me out a little bit. Rob's one of my

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Speaker 7: mentors too. My gosh, how many are there?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 6: I agree though.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, I got three baseball stories, and because JR.

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Speaker 4: Is the star of the segment, he gets the first

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Speaker 4: crack at every single one.

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Speaker 2: So let's get to it JR.

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Speaker 4: Entering Monday, the Mets and Yankees were a combined thirty

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Speaker 4: eight and sixty two since June thirteenth. As a result,

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Speaker 4: both teams as of now currently find themselves on the

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Speaker 4: outside looking in with regards to the MLB playoff race.

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Speaker 4: Easy question for you. Foul or fair to say both

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Speaker 4: New York teams will wind up missing the postseason?

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Speaker 2: That is a foul ball.

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Speaker 9: Mean, Despite the skids, both teams are still in contention

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Speaker 9: for the division with both they're just six games behind

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Speaker 9: and not having to jump over a lot of teams.

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Speaker 9: You know, just you know, get a nice little run.

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Speaker 9: You see how fast things can change week the week

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Speaker 9: in baseball, As much as fans complain, you know, I

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Speaker 9: would say they're both a lock for one of those

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Speaker 9: twelve playoff spots. I mean, my goodness, and both are

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Speaker 9: clearly among the top ten to twelve teams in all

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Speaker 9: of baseball. The New York fans are always panicking with

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Speaker 9: the situation twice as good as say, like the Athletics,

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Speaker 9: to the White Docs of the Orioles and any number

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Speaker 9: of teams. Swoper Tars haven't really stepped up for the

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Speaker 9: Messling Doors been off of them late, Lagos inconsistent, Cedric

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Speaker 9: Mullins has just you know, started getting his groove on yet.

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Speaker 9: So and the Yankee just need to run off some wins.

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Speaker 9: So come on, foul.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say foul.

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Speaker 6: That is foul ball.

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Speaker 1: They're right there for wild Car. You have seven teams

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Speaker 1: that make the playoffs in each league. They're going to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It's about getting in.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think they're not way out of the playoff hunt there.

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Speaker 1: They might be right there or right one game below,

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Speaker 1: but they're definitely within striking right.

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Speaker 2: There's seven weeks left to the baseball season. Plenty of times.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Foo, I'm gonna tell you what it is a

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Speaker 6: foul ball.

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Speaker 7: We had to start of the show, or at least

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Speaker 7: one of our conversations about the Padres how they caught

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Speaker 7: up with the Dodgers. So having only been six games

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Speaker 7: behind sounds crazy, but you know, give it a bad

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Speaker 7: week and a half, they could be right back in

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Speaker 7: this thing. And as you mentioned, depending on if you

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Speaker 7: look atpack, for instance, the Mets, I mean there's not

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Speaker 7: there's still hope within the even outside of the own division,

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Speaker 7: just in the league as a whole sneaker in their card, right, yeah, wildcard.

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking at it as one of them for

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Speaker 7: sure should get in. Uh maybe both, but it's so

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Speaker 7: it's absolutely foul to think that they're both out of it.

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Speaker 4: All right, that question was too easy, apparently, all right,

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Speaker 4: Number two Jr. Last night, the Milwaukee Brewers became just

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Speaker 4: the tenth team since nineteen sixty nine to have at

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Speaker 4: least two separate ten game winning streaks. In fact, the

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Speaker 4: Brewers currently have the best record in baseball. They're an

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Speaker 4: obscene forty nine and sixteen since May twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Obvious question for you, foul or fair to.

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Speaker 4: Say the brew crew should be the favorite to represent

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Speaker 4: the n AL in the World Series.

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Speaker 9: Srey Milwaukee, No WAYJJ.

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Speaker 2: Found that is a foul ball.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's like a trick question because seventy four wins, right,

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Speaker 9: it's a lot of wins, but no one in the

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Speaker 9: AL has even reached seventy as of right now. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's a lot of wins. But unfortunately the Brewke crew

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Speaker 9: has been here before, right, Like, they're traditionally a strong

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Speaker 9: regular season team always to me, but ultimately they lack

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Speaker 9: the star power to defeat the Juggernaw teams. They always

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Speaker 9: have these like nice and you know, group of solid

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Speaker 9: players and with good pitching. But they won't be any

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Speaker 9: single wether stories this season. Fellers like robbing you out

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Speaker 9: season Cooper, Paul Maler of Princefielder, none of them walking

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Speaker 9: through the So they're not beaten the Dodgers, and I

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Speaker 9: think the Padres would make quick work of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say foul as well. That is a

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Speaker 2: just the history.

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Speaker 1: They're eleven and thirteen in their last twenty four playoff games,

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Speaker 1: and they've had great seasons. They've been good, Calvin for

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Speaker 1: the last four or five years, they've been good.

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Speaker 2: If you go look at their regular.

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Speaker 1: Seasons and they always wind up choking it down in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. So they're one of those teams they should

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Speaker 1: be for Missouri. You gotta show me, you know before

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Speaker 1: I believe in the Brewers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's foul. That is. I mentioned this

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Speaker 6: to you, Rob and Rob G.

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Speaker 7: That's one of those teams that, for some reason the

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Speaker 7: Dodgers have just struggled with. So I do think they'll

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Speaker 7: have They're probably like looking at the chops like, man,

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Speaker 7: you know, we would actually.

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Speaker 2: Want to say they've owned the Dodgers this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So they're probably just I'm

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Speaker 7: saying that more so for JR. They may be one

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Speaker 7: of those teams to say, actually bring on the Dodger

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Speaker 7: for some reason, if it's their speed. But they've been

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Speaker 7: able to play well against the Dodgers. But no, because

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Speaker 7: it's a long postseason, right, things happen, you gotta remain hot,

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Speaker 7: things have to fall Roden play. So for them to

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Speaker 7: be the favorites, I absolutely take its file for them

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Speaker 7: to be the favorites. Could they make a surprise team

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Speaker 7: and make some noise, possibly, but favorites that's foul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brewers all over the Dodgers like Otani on Hawaiian

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Speaker 4: real estate investors. All right lost one Fowler Fair Jr.

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Speaker 4: Gamble sitting in with the I couple this one to

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Speaker 4: get out. The Seattle Mariners retired eachhir those number fifty

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Speaker 4: one jersey over the weekend, which normally would not be

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Speaker 4: too big of a deal because he's a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 4: until you realize that they also plan to retire Randy

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Speaker 4: Johnson's number fifty one jersey next season. That's right, Seattle

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Speaker 4: will retire the same number fifty one twice in consecutive years.

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Speaker 2: Here, it is fowler fair to say now that each.

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Speaker 4: Ye Roads fifty one is officially retired, the Mariners should

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Speaker 4: not and ot retire the big units fifty one.

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Speaker 6: Fam That is a fallI ball.

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Speaker 9: Let me at this question. Randy Johnson is that guy right?

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Speaker 9: Three hundred and three wins, second to No. One Ryan

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Speaker 9: Old Tom and strikeout. But this jersey should have been

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Speaker 9: retired well before each rose in my opinions, he did

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Speaker 9: discuss the situation with Johnson got his blessing, but the

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Speaker 9: strange situation. But I don't see why you can't do it.

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Speaker 9: In fact, fellas they should erect the statue with Johnson

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Speaker 9: outside t Mobile Park. Because if WNBA legends Sue Berg

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Speaker 9: can get a statue, they come on. Think about it

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Speaker 9: at five days two Burg getting a statue of Kelvin

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Speaker 9: erected outside of Climate Pleasureena, the whole city's in a

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Speaker 9: given move. In Seattle, you get a jersey retired, you

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Speaker 9: get a statue two pleasure with the same number consecutive seasons.

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Speaker 9: That fits the theme right now. Everybody's getting something in Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll get a statue.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, gud Kelvin, you got.

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Speaker 6: It's fun.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say foul ball.

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Speaker 7: We've got other examples of this, retired number eight for

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Speaker 7: both catchers, Bill Dickey and Yogi Vera. We got the

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Speaker 7: number thirty one for Greg maddox and Fergie Jenkins, so on.

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Speaker 7: You got fifteen for Dick McGuire and Earl Monroe with

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Speaker 7: the Knicks. I mean, we have other examples of this

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Speaker 7: where this has happened. Now, that's a great point you

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Speaker 7: bring up about should they have done it earlier for

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Speaker 7: Randy Johnson, which also makes it interesting, what the uh

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Speaker 7: what the Nuggets are gonna do with that fifteen with

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Speaker 7: Yokichin Carmelo at some point maybe that'll be a interesting

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Speaker 7: one as well.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, so I think it's file. We've had this

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Speaker 6: happen before.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say fair. It's all.

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Speaker 1: First of all, who's the equipment mined? You giving out numbers?

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Speaker 1: When when Randy Johnson or somebody was great, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Whereing that? Why would you give that number out again?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like you didn't know what Randy Johnson did

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Speaker 1: or whatever before he showed up.

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Speaker 2: It's just weird. I would have been like I see

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Speaker 2: them give out numbers all the time.

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Speaker 1: It would be like, you know, like I think you

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Speaker 1: should that should be on the team to look at

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Speaker 1: somebody and go, you know what, one day, that guy's

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Speaker 1: going to have his number retired.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't give it out again. That's what I say.

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Speaker 7: It is strange. No, that is really strange. Like it

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Speaker 7: wasn't like, ain't it good? He was really good? He

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Speaker 7: was really good? Like duh, And it's weird. The same

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Speaker 7: thing happened again with Carmelo. Like nobody said Carmelo like

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Speaker 7: is you know, top five ever in the NBA ever?

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Speaker 7: But I'm saying for the Nuggets, he's one of your

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Speaker 7: best players ever.

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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna retire it? Watch you just give

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Speaker 1: it up? Do you know about Carmelo? To be honest,

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Speaker 1: did you were you sure? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like in his case, I get where he fit in,

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Speaker 1: but but did you.

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Speaker 2: Know they didn't win anything when he was there? Do

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Like it was but he was insane about the top

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Speaker 7: two three player for like eight years.

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Speaker 9: I don't know they're going to retire the number. I

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Speaker 9: guess they don't want. None of those guys are gonna

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Speaker 9: change the number, you know

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Speaker 2: So all right, all right, appreciate you, bro,