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Speaker 1: of things going on. We got the protest at Union

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Speaker 1: Station in Washington, d C. The American flag is getting

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Speaker 1: burned down, and I don't know that the guy's name

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Speaker 1: is out there yet.

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Speaker 2: Buck, did you see the video of the.

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Speaker 1: Guy who went and rescued one of the burning American

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Speaker 1: flags and ran off with it and was chased. He

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Speaker 1: is I saw it. I don't think his face is public.

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Speaker 1: A team if we can find who that guy is.

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Speaker 1: I saw him interviewed. He did not want to face

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Speaker 1: on that I saw, but he said he was a

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Speaker 1: lawyer working in the area. He saw them burning the

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Speaker 1: American flag and he made the decision to go down

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Speaker 1: to the protest and to rescue one of those American

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Speaker 1: flags that was on fire. It reminded me and I

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Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the player, and I should,

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Speaker 1: but Buck, I'm sure you've seen this video of the

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Speaker 1: iconic player in out in the Outfield when the nineteen seventies,

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Speaker 1: when one of the individuals tried to burn the American

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Speaker 1: flag on the baseball field and he ran and grabbed

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Speaker 1: the American flag and refused to allow him to burn it.

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Speaker 1: This flag had already begun to be burned at Union Station.

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Speaker 1: But when I watched it, people tried to chase this guy.

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Speaker 1: They said, let's go get him. And he was just

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Speaker 1: a lawyer wearing some like a white button down some

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Speaker 1: dockers and took off. And that was Rick Monday, by

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Speaker 1: the way, back in the day in the seventies, who

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Speaker 1: saved that flag. But it kind of had an iconic

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Speaker 1: feel like that. And to me, there was a great

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Speaker 1: meme that I saw that said, this is the election.

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Speaker 1: Basically it was Trump with his fist raised and the

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Speaker 1: American flag billowing behind him, right after he had survived

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Speaker 1: an assassination attempt. And on the other side it was

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Speaker 1: Palestinian anti Israel pro Hamas protesters lighting the American flag

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Speaker 1: on fire. This is the election in essence. Now, I

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Speaker 1: know Kamala Harris has condemned that, but it's a substantial

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Speaker 1: portion of the left wing of her party that is

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Speaker 1: profoundly evil and sick and is trying to defend the

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Speaker 1: terror attack of Hamas on Israel from October seventh. Reminder

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Speaker 1: for all of you. Next week, I fly to Israel

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Speaker 1: and I will be live with this radio program the

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Speaker 1: first full week of August, and I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: tour all of these terror sites. We're going to have

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Speaker 1: a lot of different individuals from Israel that I'm going

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Speaker 1: to meet that we're going to be talking about. So

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Speaker 1: that is going on. You mentioned it. How well done

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Speaker 1: and delivered was net and Yahoo's speech in front of Congress.

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Speaker 2: I went and watched it.

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Speaker 1: I know we used the phrase Churchilly in a lot

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Speaker 1: that actually had to me moments of Churchill in it,

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Speaker 1: eloquent than I think any of the political leaders that

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Speaker 1: we have, and he's not even speaking English as his

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Speaker 1: dynamics in this country who talked about the useful idiots

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Speaker 1: who are are pro Hamas and the for example, the

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Speaker 1: gays for Gaza thing that has come up or where

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Speaker 1: people are from the trans LGBT, et cetera community are

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Speaker 1: specifically supporting.

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Speaker 2: Gaza because they viewed Gaza as a oppressed people like

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Speaker 2: they are. Yeah, Hamas does not does not actually support

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Speaker 2: LGBT rights, just to throw that out there, but can

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Speaker 2: we just agreed to go LGBT? Can we can we

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Speaker 2: drop the rest, to drop the Q and everything else? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the ias and the pluses.

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Speaker 1: They can't even finish their flag buck they keep having

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Speaker 1: to add like nude symbols and designs.

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Speaker 2: And yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've offered on this show before and I'll reinforce it again.

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Speaker 1: If you are a gay for Hamas protester, I will

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Speaker 1: help to bring you to Israel. I will take you

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Speaker 1: to Gaza with all of your gay paraphernalia, and I

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Speaker 1: will I will accompany you to the gates of Gaza

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Speaker 1: and allow you to get out and begin to protest

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Speaker 1: in favor of LGBTQ rights.

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Speaker 2: And see how long you last be worried about you too.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of sec fans in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going into Gaza, I said, I'll go to

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Speaker 1: the gates of Gaza. I'll stay with the IDF on

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Speaker 1: the other side, but I will give you a gallant

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Speaker 1: ride to the gates of Gaza to allow you to

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Speaker 1: protest in favor of gay rights, just so you can

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Speaker 1: see what would actually happen to a gay person. I

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Speaker 1: think net and Yahoo said it was the equivalent of

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Speaker 1: a chicken protesting in favor of Kentucky for eyed chicken.

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Speaker 2: So that's a pretty good line. Yeah. No, the guy

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Speaker 2: is very slick and very Look he's the man for

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Speaker 2: the moment in Israel, There's no question about it. I

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Speaker 2: think it's so interesting again to look at the immediate condemnation.

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Speaker 2: When was the last time I would wonder by this?

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Speaker 2: When was the last time Kamala Harris condemned any left

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Speaker 2: wing protest of any kind. This is the woman who

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Speaker 2: was raising money for BLM rioters in twenty twenty. Okay,

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Speaker 2: she has put out a state now that she's the

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Speaker 2: Democrat nominee condemning quote dangerous hate fueled rhetoric from unpatriotic

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Speaker 2: protesters because they were burning the US flag and posted

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Speaker 2: pro Homoscrapiti. I want you all to know, because obviously

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Speaker 2: she's not fooling us. We know this isn't how she feels, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we know that she likes these people. This is her base,

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Speaker 2: just like the BLM rioters are Democrat Biden Kamala base voters.

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Speaker 2: The people that scream anti Semitic stuff and are pro

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Speaker 2: Hamas and justify, uh, you know, the murders and the

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Speaker 2: mutilations and the suicide bombings and the kidnapping and the

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Speaker 2: torture and everything that Hamas does as a function of

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Speaker 2: state policy. By the way, the people that justify all

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Speaker 2: that clay, they're all Democrats. Find me the person who

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Speaker 2: is who is conservative and has any support or any

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Speaker 2: sway who will speak out in favor of Hamas. There

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Speaker 2: are plenty of leftists, plenty of professors and media personalities

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Speaker 2: or Hamas is a resistance organization. Yeah, and Abu Baker

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Speaker 2: al Blackdati was a was an Austere scholar. Right like

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Speaker 2: we get.

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Speaker 1: Steer religious sculpture. As The New York Times described him.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, just pours him out for it right now. One

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Speaker 2: of the best New York Times moments of all time.

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Speaker 2: That was what that was really that just that you fail.

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Speaker 1: It's that all of the editors saw that and they

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Speaker 1: were like, you know what, he's an austere religious scholar.

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Speaker 2: That's a great description of him. Yeah, well done. Really

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Speaker 2: the guy was strict for sure, austere, definitely into religion,

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Speaker 2: talking about killing all the infidels all the time. So

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Speaker 2: there's that.

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Speaker 1: That's like saying, Jeffrey Dahmer, you know, a skilled practitioner

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Speaker 1: of of of meat eating.

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Speaker 2: Of cutting edge culinary arts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cutting edge culinary artists, very good as well, made

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Speaker 1: an untimely demise.

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Speaker 2: But yes, the and then speaking of which, who was.

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Speaker 1: The Oklahoma senator who just died I think it was,

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Speaker 1: And the immediate description of him in his uh, in his.

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Speaker 2: I never I never guess when somebody.

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Speaker 1: Someone climate change, he opposed climate change in the headline, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's who it was.

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Speaker 2: It was in AFA okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but so it said, you know, he died at

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Speaker 1: the age of eighty eight or whatever. He was rest

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Speaker 1: in peace, not them me. And then it said comm

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Speaker 1: a denier of climate change. I mean, he was a

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Speaker 1: but that was the headline that the New York Times

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Speaker 2: Yes, you they show you who they are all the time,

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Speaker 2: and you just need to believe when they tell you

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Speaker 2: who they are. But on the Kamala condemnation, I think

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Speaker 2: it's interesting because it does show that the left, the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party, recognizes that the America hating left has been

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Speaker 2: a little too loud this year and they want they

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Speaker 2: It's not that they want to cast them out. No,

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Speaker 2: they're the foot soldiers of the left. They're the and

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Speaker 2: guard of the Democrat Party. You know, whether it's Antifa, BLM, rioters, whatever,

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Speaker 2: they're doing the work of the Democrats day in and

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Speaker 2: day out, and so they really appreciate it. But publicly

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Speaker 2: they have to say, we wish they weren't doing this

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Speaker 2: right now, because when your base is burning the flag

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Speaker 2: and you're trying to convince Americans that you're going to

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Speaker 2: unite the country and that you really care about what

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Speaker 2: what Isral's doing. I'm gonna tell you the good thing,

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Speaker 2: Clay Israel's taking this fight against am As to the end. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter, all the whining, all the campus you know,

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Speaker 2: nonsense about it, because it's it's existential. Hamas also showed

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Speaker 2: Israel and not that they didn't already know exactly who

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Speaker 2: they are and what they're dealing with. And net Yahoo,

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Speaker 2: even if net YAHUO was replaced by somebody else, the

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Speaker 2: Israeli people are united in we can't can't deal with

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Speaker 2: this anymore. Can't have these guys next door doing what

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Speaker 2: they do, threatening us in this way. So I do think,

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Speaker 2: and this was a big part of the net Yahu speech.

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Speaker 2: Victory is the goal, and there was a lot of concern.

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Speaker 2: You remember what they were demanding in the beginning, cease

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Speaker 2: fire were now cease fire. Now this is this is

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Speaker 2: like the guy who walks up to you, sucker punches,

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Speaker 2: who breaks your nose, and then when you turn around

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Speaker 2: to give him what's coming to him, he goes, could

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Speaker 2: we just declare truce?

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Speaker 1: No, actually we can't. Lethal weapon Do you remember this?

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Speaker 1: I think lethal weapon two diplomatic immunity. Remember, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a great scene. I mean, they basically want to they've

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Speaker 1: been shooting at you, they're trying to kill you. You decide,

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Speaker 1: Riggs and murtof I remember, correctly decides that they're going

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Speaker 1: to buy bad South African guy. Yes, yeah, diplomatic immunity,

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Speaker 1: and they just shoot him right in the head.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 1: Sorry spoiler alert if you haven't seen Lethal Weapon Too yet.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton show. The History

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Speaker 2: try to lock somebody up for ten years, but to

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Speaker 2: ban them from your scooting, that just feels harsh. That

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Speaker 2: just feels rough. And it is.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in March, the Governor of Washington sign

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Speaker 1: legislation to make sure that if you deface Pride murals,

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Speaker 1: it's a felony, five years in prison, ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Fine.

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Speaker 1: I hope these kids challenge this because I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is a constitutional punishment.

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Speaker 2: It has to be content neutral. I'm sorry, this is

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Speaker 2: totally wrong. I disagree with everybody who doesn't see it

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Speaker 2: this way. If if you're gonna punish these kids the

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Speaker 2: same way you would punish somebody else for graffiti. Right,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you can deface property. I'm very

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Speaker 2: anti graffiti for example, But if you're talking about a

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Speaker 2: public street, this is a public street like many others,

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Speaker 2: or you know, if you're talking about a mural h

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Speaker 2: you know, to say, you know, now you get into

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Speaker 2: like what is the what is the artistic value of them?

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Speaker 2: You can't buy it, okay, so it has no it

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Speaker 2: has no commercial value. So now we're basically trying to

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Speaker 2: say if you do something that that hurts something that

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Speaker 2: has sentimental value, you get to go to prison for

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Speaker 2: many year. That's a very slippery slope. And the slippery slope,

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Speaker 2: as we know undefeated, it always ends up whenever they

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Speaker 2: have an inch, they take a yard. Whenever they have

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Speaker 2: the opportunity, they take it further. But Clay, I just

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Speaker 2: feel like on the first cnemon grounds, this can't this

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Speaker 2: just cannot stand. These these states are passing statutes that

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Speaker 2: are unconstitutional. If you can burn the American flag, you

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Speaker 2: can scoot around on the Pride flag and create and

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Speaker 2: create some skin. Let me ask you this, if somebody

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Speaker 2: ripped down an American flag from any town square anywhere

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Speaker 2: in the country, and burned it. Would they face, you know,

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Speaker 2: destruction of public property? And you know the thirty dollars

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Speaker 2: or the fifty dollars whatever the flag costs, Woul, they

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Speaker 2: face ten years in prison and fifteen thousand dollars. Fine,

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Speaker 2: we all know the answer.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Here I got another fun one for you, Clay on

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Speaker 2: the you know difference in the justice system. Here, there

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Speaker 2: were protesters on video assaulting violently police officers outside of

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Speaker 2: uton station. Have you seen that? Correct them? Nu were

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Speaker 2: six protesters who did that, And I said at the

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Speaker 2: time you as saw police, you should be punished. But yep,

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Speaker 2: you know you should be punished the same way that

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Speaker 2: somebody else's punished the same act. Your six protesters were

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Speaker 2: in solitary and treated like al Qaeda for shoving or

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Speaker 2: punching a cop. People are punching and shoving cops yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone think any of the Kamala voters burning flags

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Speaker 2: and shoving cops yesterday will face any consequences?

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Speaker 1: Nah? How about the people just defacing the public monuments

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Speaker 1: with pro hamas symbology. I again, why isn't that the

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Speaker 1: full value? By the way, what is one of these

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Speaker 1: statues worth? Probably to recreate one of these statues. A

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Speaker 1: Columbus statue probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and at a minimum, the idea that you should be

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Speaker 1: able to graffiti a public monument should be punishable, no

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Speaker 1: matter what the graffiti you want, whether you want to

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Speaker 1: tag it with your name as many graffiti artists like

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Speaker 1: to do, or an image or anything else. The punishment

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Speaker 1: should be substantial and signific And the fact that we

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Speaker 1: don't have this this is where I go to again.

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Speaker 1: If you are a First Amendment absolutist, as i am,

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Speaker 1: I understand that some of you do not agree with

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Speaker 1: me that burning the American flag should be legal. I

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Speaker 1: understand some of you disagree.

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Speaker 2: I also would just say I disagree with any laws

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Speaker 2: that infringe on free speech on campus, or any any

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Speaker 2: statutes or even by laws of the college that say

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Speaker 2: that you, you know, you can't criticize Israel. Or there

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Speaker 2: was a little bit of a moment there where there

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Speaker 2: was this, oh, we're gonna have special rules when it

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Speaker 2: comes to anti Semitism. No, yes, I mean that's bad,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't do that. But you can't have laws that

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Speaker 2: affect one group and not other groups. Because you know,

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Speaker 2: some groups are more sensitive or have more historic exactly

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Speaker 2: right or whatever. There has to be content neutral, principled

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Speaker 2: perspectives for all speech. So if you get upset when

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Speaker 2: the KKK marches, then you should be able to allow

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Speaker 2: that in the same way. Not saying I agree with it,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that you should in the same way. You

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Speaker 2: should be able to allow the burning of the American flag,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, But similarly, you should also be able

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Speaker 2: to deface a Pride flag, or a BLM flag, or

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Speaker 2: a flag. Frankly, again, I understand people disagree, but like

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Speaker 2: the Vietnam Veterans flag that flies, the black flag that

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Speaker 2: is up in many different you should be able to

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Speaker 2: burn all of them as long as it's your possession. Now,

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Speaker 2: then it gets a little bit more complicated if you

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Speaker 2: take somebody else's possession all those different things. But if

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Speaker 2: you purchase a flag of one of those entities and

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Speaker 2: you decide that you want to deface it, I think

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Speaker 2: you should be able to do it. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you should go to prison, but you have to have

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Speaker 2: content neutral policies, whether it's a gay Pride flag, United

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Speaker 2: States flag, Vietnam Veterans flag, whatever it might be, you

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Speaker 2: should be a sixth semper tyrannus, the Gadsden flag, whatever

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Speaker 2: they are, you should be able to burn him.

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Speaker 1: I think doesn't mean I agree with it means that

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Speaker 1: you got to stand on the principle of it.

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Speaker 2: Right well and right now in this country. That is

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Speaker 2: not what the law says in a lot of places,

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Speaker 2: which is which.

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Speaker 1: Is why it needs to go to the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: because I think the law will say that, but somebody

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Speaker 1: has to challenge it and be vindicated in order for

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Speaker 2: Could you agree with me? So to my oor will

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Speaker 2: will write some scathing descent if that case makes it

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Speaker 2: up there about how you know hate is more important

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Speaker 2: to fight against than freedom is to speak.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's fascinating to think about how they would draw

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Speaker 1: the line of distinction here. Oh, they want they want to,

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Speaker 1: they want to, and that's ready to say you can't

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Speaker 1: say mean things about protected people. That is a central

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Speaker 1: that is like, that's more belief of the left. That's

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Speaker 1: why my one argument about the from a principal perspective

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Speaker 1: about the speech testimony that we saw from Harvard, M. I. T.

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Speaker 1: And pen if they applied that principle across the board

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Speaker 1: I actually think that's the right principle. The problem is

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Speaker 1: they only apply it when it comes to what you

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Speaker 1: the cardinal flaw of not standing on principle and trying

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. Sorry, I think called into

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Speaker 4: So that's something that for me is a concern, like

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Speaker 4: I work in higher education. Everything's blue just comes at

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Speaker 2: Look, it's a it's a great it's a great question, Anna,

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Speaker 2: And I would I would start the answer this right

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Speaker 2: it doesn't always work, and it doesn't always happen. Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's a president right now. I get that. But I

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Speaker 2: more and more people will find us and other conservatives too.

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Speaker 2: We have nothing but friends and allies to the right,

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Speaker 2: to elevate them. It's one of the reasons we have

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Speaker 2: as many guesses we do on this show, including authors,

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Speaker 2: not just politicians, because we want to elevate our friends

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Speaker 2: in the movement. Clay, we've got some vip uh, some

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Speaker 2: vip emails here VIP listener, Alison, she's she's she's throwing

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Speaker 2: a flag on you. Clay, you need to stop with

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Speaker 2: the kamala sleeping with older married men. Attack uh uh.

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Speaker 2: She's very upset about this. What do you want to say?

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Speaker 2: So some people get this very much, bothers them understand.

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Speaker 1: How again, we were talking earlier about the principle of

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Speaker 1: whatever you think about the American flag being burned, you

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Speaker 1: should have the same standard for the gay Pride flag

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Speaker 1: being burned or whatever else.

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Speaker 2: On a political spectrum.

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Speaker 1: If Donald Trump allegedly sleeping with Stormy Daniels is a

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Speaker 1: new story worthy of eight years of coverage because it

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Speaker 1: goes direct to his character and fitness for office, Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 1: at twenty nine years old, slept with Willie Brown sixty

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Speaker 1: years old, and he gave her two jobs which paid

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Speaker 1: her four hundred thousand dollars. If you're sleeping with someone

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Speaker 1: and you get compensated for it directly, what is that called? Okay,

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Speaker 1: m clay, one quick one for you, one infant, one

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Speaker 1: quick one for you. Tom and Oa, Oak Creek, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: says Clay Fred Thompson in die Hard two his best

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Speaker 1: work ever. Agree or disagree, I think Hug for Red

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Speaker 1: October is Fred Thompson's best worthy I got a back

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Speaker 1: clay off on that one, Tom, But I like where

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Speaker 1: heads out on Diehard too should be celebrated more