Speaker 1: Look may oh, I see you and look over there.
Speaker 2: Is that the culture?
Speaker 1: Yes, wow loves culture.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hi everybody, what a crowd I thought.
Speaker 4: He said that the chairs were the microphe's like the chairs.
Speaker 5: Are the mic He did make it sound like the
Speaker 5: chairs were the.
Speaker 4: But they're not.
Speaker 2: He said they were going to be like magic, and
Speaker 2: we didn't have to do anything and we had to
Speaker 2: pick not up.
Speaker 1: No, is this magical?
Speaker 4: Walt everything. We love you, hye you guys.
Speaker 3: I am so excited to be here, uh here at
Speaker 3: the ninety second Street y where culture is mother, and
Speaker 3: here I sit with.
Speaker 4: And here I sit with two little bros.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: If you know, you know, And.
Speaker 4: Here's what I know.
Speaker 3: The razor tongued legends to my left have made the
Speaker 3: deserved acrobatic leap from pop culture commentators on the Solo
Speaker 3: Cup sidelines to pop culture icons on the Golden hilltop.
Speaker 3: And we are all so proud. And your individual accomplishments
Speaker 3: in every possible medium are so impressive and storied, be
Speaker 3: it music, film, television, bonobos. But tonight is a night
Speaker 3: for the readers, Katie's publicists, and finalists, all of whom
Speaker 3: are represented tonight. So I just want to welcome one
Speaker 3: more time, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Speaker 2: It's like it's beyond wish fulfillment to have you here.
Speaker 2: I mean, like this is when we started the podcast.
Speaker 2: I think it was like a way that we could
Speaker 2: get together and just talk about the things that we loved.
Speaker 1: And it came from that place.
Speaker 6: And then when you became a true topic on our
Speaker 6: podcast because of our love for you, and then you
Speaker 6: came on and it was just I think this moment
Speaker 6: in the podcast that we both look back on as
Speaker 6: one of the.
Speaker 1: Highs of doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just I mean, if you guys know
Speaker 2: the Maggots and Magic episode of Last Culture is this
Speaker 2: it was like three people exploding of joy, and I just,
Speaker 2: I just it's just the coolest that you're doing this
Speaker 2: and we just think you're the coolest and you know,
Speaker 2: oh my.
Speaker 3: God, well I know, I feel like if you're a reader,
Speaker 3: you feel this way where it the magic of your
Speaker 3: podcast is you make Suiti's of us all where it
Speaker 3: feels like we are it's just the three of us
Speaker 3: sitting somewhere, but you're like, all right, I'm with headphones
Speaker 3: and they don't they don't know me but I'm talking
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think I've.
Speaker 3: Had this experience with other podcasts before, where when they
Speaker 3: get really successful, there's this little like, oh, it's not
Speaker 3: just me anymore. But it has never felt that way.
Speaker 3: It's because joy and your friendship is so the the
Speaker 3: the basis for everything, and it just is the bedrock.
Speaker 3: So it's it's it never feels like you're turning out
Speaker 3: to the audience or it's a performance. It just always
Speaker 3: feels so authentic, and I just feel so proud.
Speaker 4: Uh and uh, yeah, come on.
Speaker 5: We're we're just a piccolo and a bassoon over a here.
Speaker 7: We're not. Yeah, we're that's our tambour and that's and
Speaker 7: that's that's all we bring. Is just we're two squawking voices.
Speaker 7: And somehow, somehow that's that's that's transmute into something really
Speaker 7: so meaningful to us.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's it. I sound an.
Speaker 7: Octave lower than I usually do, and I think it's
Speaker 7: really worth.
Speaker 4: The real you this is.
Speaker 1: But the change in your voice is so real.
Speaker 5: Oh. Over the over the years of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if you ever go back and
Speaker 2: listen to like really old ones, but one time I
Speaker 2: went back and you were piccoloish girl.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was. You were piccolo ish and.
Speaker 1: I was sort of like a hyper piccolo.
Speaker 2: Got it, Like, what's a hyper Piccolo like Helium?
Speaker 3: I guess helium Piccolo Piccolo. And now we've matured, yeah.
Speaker 2: Into like sort of I'm losing Piccolo to be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well it'll still go deep deep, but it's it's not
Speaker 2: it's more deep.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's the years.
Speaker 3: Wait, let's go back to the beginning right off, if
Speaker 3: we may come on.
Speaker 4: Out hell, talk to me about the beginning.
Speaker 1: Where were you? What were you?
Speaker 4: Who were you like?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 4: What were your apartments? Like, what were your dreams?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: What was happening? And how did you come up with
Speaker 3: the idea to do this? Why have you done this?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there is like a there's a new detail in
Speaker 7: this in the origin story that I think is really important,
Speaker 7: which is that I remember that it was at a
Speaker 7: Think coffee on Mercer Streets.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, that think that was like that's
Speaker 1: like an iconic thing.
Speaker 5: That's an iconic thing. And is it still there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, you were there today? How is that.
Speaker 7: Do they still do they still have like the Maffi,
Speaker 7: the most do they still coffee.
Speaker 5: They still they have like the most beat up board games.
Speaker 7: It's fine, No, I I went every day to think
Speaker 7: coffee on Mercer.
Speaker 2: Well, we used to record on the corner of Mercer
Speaker 2: where dojo used to be.
Speaker 5: These are for my ass dojo.
Speaker 1: And when they got.
Speaker 2: Rid of dojo or they replaced dojo with like a
Speaker 2: knockoff dojo, that.
Speaker 5: Was very hard yeah, for us, for the community.
Speaker 2: So we went to school around there and like we
Speaker 2: I think it was it was at that thin coffee
Speaker 2: that we sat down and we had like a Google doc.
Speaker 1: This is all coming back to me now too.
Speaker 2: We literally were like, okay, what could ideas for the
Speaker 2: podcast even be? Because we we thought for a second
Speaker 2: it was gonna be like a choose your own adventure.
Speaker 1: Classic Bow and Yang idea.
Speaker 7: Logistically impossible idea like to go down to go to
Speaker 7: the library, go to episode nine hundred and fifty two,
Speaker 7: Like it's that that's crazy. Why did I ever think
Speaker 7: that could be?
Speaker 1: And I was like, what if we talk? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I think it was this.
Speaker 2: But literally out of necessity of needing to have segments
Speaker 2: like our producers Forever Dog, which is where we started,
Speaker 2: and we yes, we and they said like, well, can
Speaker 2: you have some segments and we came up with I
Speaker 2: don't think so, because it was something that we would
Speaker 2: just say to each other whenever we thought the other.
Speaker 5: Was being.
Speaker 2: Not right, yeah, not right, like, oh, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think so, honey, no sweet no, Sweetie.
Speaker 7: I don't know, Sweetie is like the addendum that that's
Speaker 7: kind of gotten chopped off.
Speaker 5: It was I don't think so, honey, no.
Speaker 2: No, sweetie, Yeah, no, Sweetie has gotten lost the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, kind of the Katie of I don't.
Speaker 2: Think yeah, yeah, but no, Sweetie was definitely in there.
Speaker 2: And then we had another segment, which was the Culture
Speaker 2: of the Week, which is where we said what the
Speaker 2: culture of the week was, and it was always Disney
Speaker 2: related and the bit just wasn't landing.
Speaker 5: It wasn't every.
Speaker 7: Culture of the Week thing was an element of the
Speaker 7: Disney parks. Yeah, it was like what Turkey Legs one
Speaker 7: week to Turkey Legs Tower of Terror another Yeah, of course,
Speaker 7: just highlighting the did.
Speaker 4: You start having guests or from the beginning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, from the beginning the second episode.
Speaker 7: Our first guest was Anna Dresine and a very good
Speaker 7: friend of ours and then I think I think we
Speaker 7: only started having no guests like forty or five years
Speaker 7: in like during the pandemic. Yeah, was where or during
Speaker 7: Lockdown was where we were like, Okay, this is it's harder.
Speaker 7: It's both harder and easier to book people, but let's
Speaker 7: just like if we can just get on a zoom
Speaker 7: then like that's what the that's what the easiest thing is.
Speaker 5: I think I'm getting this timeline right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like the Pandemic was this moment where
Speaker 2: the podcast got like a weird and this just feels
Speaker 2: so weird to say, but it really felt like.
Speaker 1: How are we going to keep doing this?
Speaker 2: Because I remember Bowen had gotten Saturday Night Live and
Speaker 2: I had moved to LA and it was like this
Speaker 2: question of how are you going to do the podcast?
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I'll travel back and we'll
Speaker 2: always be in person because the podcast has to be
Speaker 2: in person for sure. It can't exist if it's not
Speaker 2: in person, right, And it was like this thing of
Speaker 2: we had made this decision and then the world made
Speaker 2: a decision for us that we were going to have
Speaker 2: to be virtual, which ended up being this nice, cool
Speaker 2: thing because then we could reach out to people regardless
Speaker 2: of where they were in the world, because everyone now
Speaker 2: had Zoom proficiency and they could log on and be
Speaker 2: our guests from anywhere, which was fun for a minute.
Speaker 7: Yeah it's still fun. Yeah, I still don't mind a
Speaker 7: zoom guest, but.
Speaker 4: Matt hates it. I'm just so happy that you're both
Speaker 4: back in New York.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 5: Are you are you a lifer here? You think, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: I I think I've realized I'm a lifer here in leaving,
Speaker 2: in leaving, I've now come back, and I'm like, because
Speaker 2: it's it's like it is true, like you talk about that,
Speaker 2: think coffee like where you recorded the podcast. I remember
Speaker 2: when I had been away from New York for a
Speaker 2: couple of years because of the pandemic.
Speaker 1: I had come back actually to do the Bonobo shoot, and.
Speaker 2: Wow, I can say a lot, but but I was,
Speaker 2: I got a little and I was it was raining
Speaker 2: or the shoot. Yeah, for the shoot, but I remember
Speaker 2: I was free, like use the space something.
Speaker 1: They really said, something that really said we could have
Speaker 1: been high for that.
Speaker 5: Totally. It was a very straight they were. They were lovely.
Speaker 5: That was a great experience.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 2: There was flamingos anyway, Yeah, there was no real like
Speaker 2: that was plastic plastic. Yeah, And but I remember I
Speaker 2: was walking around New York and I hadn't been there
Speaker 2: in so long, and it was like it was raining,
Speaker 2: it was like February or something, and I just I
Speaker 2: had was feeling cold on my skin in the rain
Speaker 2: and walking around in the Lower East Side where we
Speaker 2: went to school, and just seeing all these landmarks, like
Speaker 2: remember when that happened there, that happened there, you'd only
Speaker 2: have history here because I kind of we both kind
Speaker 2: of grew up here. And then I got really emotional
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is my home, you know,
Speaker 2: like we're all so lucky that New York because our home.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like, you know, I'm again very
Speaker 2: happy to be back as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 7: But in LA, there's there's there's no memory like you
Speaker 7: you don't see like there's no emotional landmarks in LA.
Speaker 5: There have to be.
Speaker 1: There's barely any emotion in l A.
Speaker 3: Wow, here's my question. As you guys have gotten so successful.
Speaker 8: Uh uh, delete delete time, delete time, I'm shocked that
Speaker 8: you can't hear a filter in the podcast that like
Speaker 8: now that you are have.
Speaker 4: More ears and eyes and uh.
Speaker 3: I just am so pleased that you don't seem to
Speaker 3: censor yourselves at all.
Speaker 1: Probably good more but I love it.
Speaker 3: It just it just it's just getting better and better.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I wonder how do you protect that unfilteredness as
Speaker 3: do you just try not to think about that more
Speaker 3: people are listening to you.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the fact that so to go back
Speaker 7: to the think coffee, the fact that Matt's idea was
Speaker 7: why don't we just talk? I mean that is the
Speaker 7: lowest concept idea, but in the best way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: oh my god, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what That's why it works.
Speaker 7: But why it works, the reason we've kept doing it
Speaker 7: is because it's the easiest, like most turn key thing.
Speaker 7: It's like we besides culture, the only thing that's gone
Speaker 7: is culture of the week. That's the only difference from
Speaker 7: the from the beginning of the podcast. And I think
Speaker 7: the reason, I the reason maybe there's I think there's
Speaker 7: a little bit of a filter. There's just there's a
Speaker 7: light gauze of a filter on the show now. Maybe
Speaker 7: because I think we we we don't want to like
Speaker 7: run a foul of anybody or necessarily it's weird.
Speaker 2: To want to be in the industry that you have
Speaker 2: so much shit to talk about. Yes, right, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And we were doing it backstage, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and we were like, oh, this
Speaker 2: will be just this without shit talking people. But it's
Speaker 2: funny because like things happen and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you meet that person, right, and it's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Can you ever tell that their publicist is like just
Speaker 3: you know, they said your show was written by third.
Speaker 2: Grade And let me say a show I would.
Speaker 1: Die to be on.
Speaker 7: N it's like a nineties primetime soap. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that, because finally today I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what it is. It's just a soap, and
Speaker 2: it's actually quite a good soap. Yes, because on a soap,
Speaker 2: like who wants to hear about like people's that could
Speaker 2: really actually happen. No, I want to hear that Bradley
Speaker 2: Jackson was at the insurrection.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course I want to hear about that. Of
Speaker 1: course she should go to space.
Speaker 7: I forgot oh spoilerler Betty's watching.
Speaker 3: It, but no, well I've told them I watched all
Speaker 3: of season one have skipped season two and last.
Speaker 4: Night started three. Yes, so I've seen Bradley in space.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, but I don't know why she's there.
Speaker 5: Why is she there?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: She was supposed to go to the border. Do you
Speaker 2: want to hear my theory? Yes, this is my theory.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I think Jennifer Aniston was supposed to actually go
Speaker 2: to space, and I think that was where her and
Speaker 2: the John Hamm of it all was going to take off.
Speaker 2: And I think that that was like actually pretty heavy
Speaker 2: handed metaphor that they at the last second either bailed
Speaker 2: because they didn't have enough for reason that episode, or
Speaker 2: Jennifer said, I don't like how I'm gonna look in
Speaker 2: the space thing.
Speaker 7: Right, I don't want if I'm floating around, I can't
Speaker 7: like turn my face. Yeah, it feels like something Jennifer
Speaker 7: Anison said, yes, I want to go to space and
Speaker 7: then said it the last second, No, I don't want
Speaker 7: to go to space because that turn in the episode
Speaker 7: didn't make sense, which strengthens the series overall.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, I agree, And.
Speaker 3: I think I understand the draw to Morning Show in
Speaker 3: that I feel like right now in acting, there is
Speaker 3: a real war on choices and steaks. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of to me sleepy status in movies of like.
Speaker 4: I'm better than you and I'm a little sleepy and
Speaker 4: just trying to get through this day.
Speaker 3: And on the Morning Show, it's like everyone is going
Speaker 3: for it the highest stakes, like at war with the
Speaker 3: camera and there's partner and I as someone who doesn't
Speaker 3: I don't watch housewives, but I do understand the like, sorry.
Speaker 2: There were some gaps and it's okay, like we turn
Speaker 2: around and like bring Whitfield this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do feel like those are Blanche Duboa
Speaker 3: women playing to the mezzanine in any sleepy status world,
Speaker 3: so that I understand.
Speaker 7: The Morning Show is a show of Blanche Dubois for sure.
Speaker 2: It's just honestly, like when I realize it's Wednesday, I.
Speaker 1: Get so excited.
Speaker 2: I get so excited, especially because all year, all season long,
Speaker 2: I've thought it premieres on Fridays. So I was waiting
Speaker 2: till Friday, and then I found out, oh my god,
Speaker 2: there's a new episode.
Speaker 1: It's been out for two days.
Speaker 2: When did you find out? Oh I found out on
Speaker 2: a Thursday. Okay, So this is why it was good.
Speaker 2: It is because I thought it was coming on Friday.
Speaker 2: Then my friend Abe said to me, you know what
Speaker 2: comes out on Wednesdays. You can watch it now. I
Speaker 2: left hanging out with him and went home and watched it.
Speaker 2: It is so fun. And I heard that what happens
Speaker 2: in the finale is the craziest thing the show has
Speaker 2: ever done.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 7: And I'm so happy this is taken up this much time.
Speaker 7: Has someone told you what happens already?
Speaker 2: No one's told me what happens because I told let's
Speaker 2: just say, I met someone in the wild who works
Speaker 2: on the show, and so I had a litany of questions.
Speaker 3: And were they offended by what you have said about people?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: They thought it was very apt. Okay, and they were like,
Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, and I just heard a little
Speaker 2: bit about the inner workings in a way that I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that unfortunately goes through a filter because
Speaker 2: I can't get out here and say, okay.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you have been asked and answered this a
Speaker 3: million times. But to go to the way beginning, yes, uh,
Speaker 3: have you already answered this a million times? What is
Speaker 3: the culture that made you say culture is for you?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 7: I think I think we've both said privately to each other,
Speaker 7: like our answers change all the time.
Speaker 5: I think you have. I'm a little bit more like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, not as defined.
Speaker 3: I think charged eye contact across the rim with hot actors.
Speaker 5: With hot actors, Yeah, the only time that's happened.
Speaker 2: I think mine are like very mainstream millennial in that.
Speaker 2: Like I so, American Idol was a really big deal
Speaker 2: for me because because I loved music, and music is
Speaker 2: actually what I love most of all.
Speaker 1: And so why is that true? It's true? The way
Speaker 1: they laughed so hard?
Speaker 5: Have you heard of Christmas Comes at November third?
Speaker 1: True? I said, I.
Speaker 2: Won't stop until my Wikipedia, says Matt Rogers' American comedian, writer, actor,
Speaker 2: television host and recording artists, and.
Speaker 1: Then I'll stop.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: But anyway, like when I was watching American Idol at
Speaker 2: like eleven or twelve, yeah, sure, it was definitely the
Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson of it all.
Speaker 1: It was. It was big for me.
Speaker 2: There was the rooting for like, you know, this incredible
Speaker 2: powerhouse talent. But for me, what was so exciting about
Speaker 2: it was when they would do the theme weeks of
Speaker 2: motown and sixties music and seventies music and eighties music,
Speaker 2: and I suddenly had like a vocabulary for all this
Speaker 2: music history, to the point where I then went into
Speaker 2: school and my art teacher was like, today, we're going
Speaker 2: to listen to Aretha Franklin, and I knew all the songs.
Speaker 2: And that's when I realized just how much music was
Speaker 2: out there and how much I loved every genre. And
Speaker 2: I think it really got me very interested, because I'm
Speaker 2: the kind of person where when I love something, I
Speaker 2: have to know everything about it. So for that, I
Speaker 2: would say that was really the And then honestly, like
Speaker 2: a lot of people that ask like what's your comedic
Speaker 2: influence and sensibility, I can answer that question. But there's
Speaker 2: nothing funnier to me than the way some of these
Speaker 2: people sing.
Speaker 4: People on American Idol like uh.
Speaker 2: Okay, so in an American Idol performance, like it would
Speaker 2: usually end with like a sustained belt and that is
Speaker 2: so funny, or like it was the style it was, yeah,
Speaker 2: and the Mariah Selene Whitney style of singing like I
Speaker 2: or just like the existence of pop stars in spaces
Speaker 2: I think is so funny. I think that is why
Speaker 2: ultimately I am sort of like doing as this bit
Speaker 2: that's become real, like me as this like pop star
Speaker 2: is because I do think that there's something really funny.
Speaker 2: And I've always thought there was something really funny about
Speaker 2: like capitalism and pop music, and like the Christmas thing
Speaker 2: is just I just think there's something so funny about it.
Speaker 2: And so to embody it, I think does connect to
Speaker 2: who I was as a kid. Yeah, And so that's
Speaker 2: what I would say for right now, like in my
Speaker 2: life the culture that moved me, that like literally brought
Speaker 2: me out into the backyard and like I would sing
Speaker 2: and I thought that no one could hear, and I
Speaker 2: wished to be on that show, and you know, I
Speaker 2: wanted to perform, but it was at odds with where
Speaker 2: I was growing up and that tension, like I can
Speaker 2: really directly trace back to that show, which doesn't feel
Speaker 2: very special because that's everyone in America, that's our age's
Speaker 2: American idol.
Speaker 1: No, but there is something you.
Speaker 4: Were voting every week and watching it.
Speaker 2: I was voting every week, and sometimes I would vote
Speaker 2: for everyone just to get one person out. Wait, I
Speaker 2: would vote strategically and politically.
Speaker 4: Vote for everyone but one.
Speaker 7: But yes, it brings there and bring it just it
Speaker 7: fucks the numbers up.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 2: I was so basically, Jennifer Hudson being eliminated radicalized me.
Speaker 5: Wow, to game the system.
Speaker 1: It radicalized me.
Speaker 4: Incredible.
Speaker 2: Don Stevens was my enemy and this means very little
Speaker 2: to anyone. Ants were calling me after Jennifer Hudson was
Speaker 2: eliminated asking why, and I was like, I don't know, Mureen,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out myself.
Speaker 4: Were you watching like by r sit were you with?
Speaker 2: My family loved it, my sister and my sister actually,
Speaker 2: to give her credit, was the first one to say,
Speaker 2: I like Kelly, and I was like, no, it's tomorrow,
Speaker 2: it's about Tamarra. And then it so clearly was about
Speaker 2: both of them, but it was about Kelly, right. I
Speaker 2: remember she's saying stuff like that there on Big Ben
Speaker 2: Week and I was like, I was with my grandmother
Speaker 2: and my grandmother said, that is the most talented person
Speaker 2: I think I've ever seen, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: think you're right. I was like, I think she's such
Speaker 2: a star. I'm obsessed with her.
Speaker 1: I love her. And then you know, years go by
Speaker 1: and like, yeah.
Speaker 4: Were you ever gonna audition for American Idol?
Speaker 2: I would never have gotten to the place where I
Speaker 2: was comfortable enough with myself to do that. But I
Speaker 2: remember the second season there was a contestant named Matt
Speaker 2: Rogers and he still hangs out to this day, like
Speaker 2: he was like hosting stuff on like CMPT and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I remember when he went out and auditioned, I
Speaker 2: was like, well, now I can never be on the show, right,
Speaker 2: And it was the first time I knew what like
Speaker 2: a situational depression was, right wow, but it was American
Speaker 2: now for me, it consumed my life. And then other
Speaker 2: things like when I watched Lost, I know I wanted
Speaker 2: to write television and you know, just the culture of
Speaker 2: the island. It has really steeped into my bones. But yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's.
Speaker 5: What it is for me.
Speaker 7: Beautiful, fabulous answer mine. I'm gonna say. Parallel track of
Speaker 7: like pop worship was this Taiwanese artist named Teresa Tang
Speaker 7: and then at the same time Selene Dion because it
Speaker 7: was it was Montreal, she was our our, our god,
Speaker 7: and you know, we would like go into we would
Speaker 7: do field trips downtown and go to the cathedral and
Speaker 7: it's called like Cathedral, Notre Dame or something. But we
Speaker 7: just as kids knew it as the church where Selene
Speaker 7: got married to Reneo Jalill And it was just watching
Speaker 7: her on TV and like watching her switch from speaking
Speaker 7: English to speaking French, singing in English singing to French.
Speaker 7: It blowing my mind that someone was bilingual, even though
Speaker 7: I was bilingual, like.
Speaker 5: Wild and it.
Speaker 7: Was something really fucked me, and like this is true
Speaker 7: for all of us, Like when she put out that
Speaker 7: video this year about her her illness, like it was
Speaker 7: I I sobbed and I'm not a sober but like
Speaker 7: it really fucking destroyed me because this is someone who
Speaker 7: God like means so much to people. And then and
Speaker 7: then to go and then like with the whole like
Speaker 7: Titanique of it all, like I got to bring my
Speaker 7: pick it up and mom and my sister were in
Speaker 7: town a couple of weeks ago. I like, it's the
Speaker 7: only piece of theater that I can take my mother
Speaker 7: to where she would understand what was happening and appreciate it.
Speaker 5: She knows Titanic, she knows Celine Dion.
Speaker 7: It's it's monoculture for like a Chinese auntie, you know,
Speaker 7: And that I mean that that that is like incredibly
Speaker 7: meaningful that like you get to like share it up
Speaker 7: and then it gets downloaded back onto you or whatever.
Speaker 7: Like my mom was the one to like put on
Speaker 7: Selene on the TV, and so I think it's Selene.
Speaker 1: I love that American. I thought Selene get this. So
Speaker 1: I was too.
Speaker 2: I too was obsessed with Selene at like seven. And
Speaker 2: then there was this other pop diva. Her name was
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, and I remember at the time, this is
Speaker 2: how you know that stan wars are actually something that's
Speaker 2: deep within us. I remember feeling so threatened by Mariah
Speaker 2: Carey because I was a Selene's And then when I
Speaker 2: actually realized.
Speaker 1: What Mariah's deal was, I was like, I'm jumping ship.
Speaker 2: That's my girl, Like the diva's live with Mariah Selene,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Aretha that I mean that was
Speaker 2: like the best time in my life.
Speaker 3: To be a PA at diva's lives must have been
Speaker 3: the most terrifying experience possible.
Speaker 1: We need that again so bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Like we need.
Speaker 2: Ari, we need Kelly, we need who Olivia, we need Beyonce,
Speaker 2: we need we need Gaga.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a right time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe real would come in and I don't know
Speaker 2: present if she doesn't want to sing, it's not that
Speaker 2: we don't want.
Speaker 5: To hear, she just doesn't want to perform.
Speaker 3: We all heard what you just said. Okay, And when
Speaker 3: did you know this was true love? Like I know
Speaker 3: that at first at first you bumped heads famously, But
Speaker 3: when what was like the first conversation or in joke
Speaker 3: or a moment where you were like, ooh, this is
Speaker 3: this is different?
Speaker 4: What's when was that?
Speaker 2: Well, we say it's so, this is really what happened.
Speaker 2: I was invited by a friend on my on my
Speaker 2: floor freshman year to go to a sketch show Hammercats
Speaker 2: at n YU, and she was like, and my friend
Speaker 2: Bowen is gonna come, and he is in the improv group,
Speaker 2: so if you want to eventually be in the groups,
Speaker 2: you should meet him. Like he is great, he's my friend.
Speaker 2: We we have class together, and so we met and
Speaker 2: went to the show together.
Speaker 1: But there was this little minogue tension.
Speaker 2: Because I think were I think, you know, what's really interesting?
Speaker 2: Like I can remember the moment where I met all
Speaker 2: of my best friends, and I clock it and I
Speaker 2: remember it, and I always remembered that, And then it
Speaker 2: wasn't we didn't start really hanging out until we both
Speaker 2: were on the groups and there was like a like
Speaker 2: a commonality in that we had this interest, which was
Speaker 2: doing comedy at the school. We had all these friends,
Speaker 2: and then we also had like a shared language I
Speaker 2: think just from.
Speaker 5: Being gang gang.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But then like when do we know was true love?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that what I was always like the
Speaker 2: here's the deal, the real deal, and you know this
Speaker 2: just from knowing Bowen. But I remember the very first
Speaker 2: time I ever saw him perform, I just thought he
Speaker 2: was like a supernova. Like I was just like I
Speaker 2: was so like shocked, Like it was so exciting to
Speaker 2: watch his energy, and like I was just like wow,
Speaker 2: like and we were already friends, but I had not
Speaker 2: really seen you do a comedy performance, and like your
Speaker 2: energy and the what you bring to a stage and
Speaker 2: a group of people, it just was elevating the mood
Speaker 2: of everyone in the room. And I think I sensed
Speaker 2: something in that because I think that something that I
Speaker 2: try to take with me every single days. It's my
Speaker 2: job to make people happy and provide levity and provide joy.
Speaker 2: And I knew in that very moment, I was like,
Speaker 2: he gives me a lot of joy, and there was
Speaker 2: something intangible about the joy that everyone in the room
Speaker 2: felt when he was doing what he was doing. And
Speaker 2: that's such a superpower in like a sixth sense, that
Speaker 2: you can choose one of two things. You can be
Speaker 2: afraid of that and jealous of that, and I'll want
Speaker 2: to push it away or like, you know, hate it
Speaker 2: because you're not it, or you don't think you are,
Speaker 2: or you can be like I want to be closer
Speaker 2: to that person.
Speaker 1: I want to find out more.
Speaker 2: And then the luckiest, the luckiest thing that ever happened
Speaker 2: to me was that you know, at least he says
Speaker 2: he felt the same way about me and what I do.
Speaker 7: Like, by the way, when the microphones are off, I
Speaker 7: am telling this person how fucking amazing he is.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's like it's like when you have
Speaker 2: that type of feeling towards someone and like and then
Speaker 2: they say, you know, like I look at you like that,
Speaker 2: like I feel this this way about what you can do,
Speaker 2: Like it just makes you feel like you can because
Speaker 2: and I've I was just talking today to someone about
Speaker 2: how like when Rachel Bloom won the Golden Globe, we
Speaker 2: were at it.
Speaker 1: Yes, we were in my apartment and I was we're watching.
Speaker 2: I'll remember where we were, but I remember like we
Speaker 2: watched her win and we watched her go up to
Speaker 2: the stage and that was like our friend. And I
Speaker 2: remember I turned to him and I was just like,
Speaker 2: is this crazy to think that like these people that
Speaker 2: we thought were special, Like, oh, actually are like could
Speaker 2: we actually do this? Like and then every single day
Speaker 2: from that moment on, I'm talking too much, but like
Speaker 2: I just saw it happened for more and more people,
Speaker 2: until ultimately it's happened for him in this way that.
Speaker 1: Is so major.
Speaker 2: But I just I'm not surprised, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like and and you know, I'm so proud of him,
Speaker 2: but like, duh.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like I've always known he
Speaker 1: was a star.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so when you see that person and they
Speaker 2: say to you, I've been asked to do a podcast,
Speaker 2: do you want to do one with me?
Speaker 1: Say yes, that's me.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Well I think that is the thing that I was
Speaker 3: trying to say at the beginning. That is just the
Speaker 3: teflon for you guys, where you just feel that constantly.
Speaker 3: It's the glue and what key. It's so authentic and
Speaker 3: so wonderful to listen to. The best parts are when
Speaker 3: you can hear the like fizz between you guys. Like
Speaker 3: what was the moment in a recent episode where I
Speaker 3: think it was Sudie's recent kuntum naturally kuntum pronunciation thank you,
Speaker 3: where she was guessing your McDonald's orders.
Speaker 4: And what said Matt.
Speaker 3: Said that he wouldn't order a big Mac because he's tomato,
Speaker 3: and you could hear Bowen's brain explode.
Speaker 1: Because he knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: But it's it's like hearing a best friend's brain explode,
Speaker 3: of like, no one hates or loves you more than
Speaker 3: me in this moment of like, I'm so angry at
Speaker 3: you and love you so much and that's insane and
Speaker 3: I'll never let this go and it's making me so
Speaker 3: happy and so angry at the same time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like that's why I was That's why I was
Speaker 7: crying in that moment. It is purely like I love
Speaker 7: this person so much for all like in this moment
Speaker 7: of total nonsense, Yes, he is being so and I told.
Speaker 5: Him this recently.
Speaker 7: I was like, so the it's not the reason why
Speaker 7: Matt has had a really, really, really incredible couple of years,
Speaker 7: but recently, but I think I think the reason, yes,
Speaker 7: give it up, but there is Like I told Matt recently,
Speaker 7: I was like, you are like literally adorable, like people
Speaker 7: love to adore you, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 7: he just he just has that thing, that thing where
Speaker 7: like you.
Speaker 5: It's undeniable.
Speaker 7: There is no reason why anyone would be like, that's
Speaker 7: not for me.
Speaker 2: No, you gotta tweet the Teresa Judais fans. They might
Speaker 2: kill me at Bravo Con if I die at Bravo Con.
Speaker 1: It's the hugs.
Speaker 5: It's so, they're called tree huggers. It's God. Well.
Speaker 7: One thing about the Bravo fandom is that they are
Speaker 7: all mentally sound, including.
Speaker 5: Sting us.
Speaker 7: Anyway that that But the big Mac moment is like,
Speaker 7: is so is just a pure expression of that of
Speaker 7: the of the of the of the friendship.
Speaker 5: I agree, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: And he listening to you guys do live performances in
Speaker 3: Berlin and even listening to you guys do ads like
Speaker 3: you can feel you feel like you're also stoned with them,
Speaker 3: Like isn't this crazy? Like you can feel your sort
Speaker 3: of kicking each other under the table of like any situation.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's such a joy, we're all
Speaker 4: so grateful.
Speaker 1: Such a trip.
Speaker 2: That's so weird because they do this thing now where
Speaker 2: peak behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: You can tell Ai has written some of the ads.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2: So infuriating because it's not written for humans to speak,
Speaker 2: so why would you expect us to speak?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 4: Really, Ai has written It's it's.
Speaker 7: Just like this syntax like, oh, we're getting hello, we're getting.
Speaker 2: It's the ad police an amazing top on was that
Speaker 2: was so stunning?
Speaker 7: Wait, that was theest woman, that woman, that was incredible.
Speaker 1: She's our next guest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I specifically said no women.
Speaker 4: This says we can go until eight oh five.
Speaker 3: Oo oh these are audience questions. There are one hundred
Speaker 3: and sixties about them. So oh okay, this is from
Speaker 3: uh jet l.
Speaker 4: Who is your dream guest for the next season? And why?
Speaker 2: Oh I know who I would want to have and
Speaker 2: it's it's Lady Gaga. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because I
Speaker 2: I just wish for Bowen what I got to have
Speaker 2: with Kelly. Oh, it was so euphoric and such an
Speaker 2: incredible moment, like and to have what I just said
Speaker 2: and have that full circle moment with her.
Speaker 1: I want that for you be well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so nice.
Speaker 7: It's not going to happen because basically, okay, we know
Speaker 7: we saw. The first time I saw Tchenique was with
Speaker 7: Bobby Campbell, her manager, sweetest, sweetest guy, love him. He's like,
Speaker 7: I'm into the show, and I was like, great. He
Speaker 7: did not mention that she would she would show up.
Speaker 7: So what happened at the meeting between Dress and Arrows
Speaker 7: Lorn goes and Lady Gaga is going to introduce the
Speaker 7: first song and then me in a room full of
Speaker 7: three hundred people, I went my faggiest moment at the show.
Speaker 7: I go Lady Gaga. And then I saw her and
Speaker 7: then Bobby introduced us at the after party and I
Speaker 7: was like, and recently I've said that like I will
Speaker 7: not be able to handle meeting her. She was so
Speaker 7: so lovely, and then I was I was like two
Speaker 7: drinks in and I was like, oh my god. I
Speaker 7: just had like the faggiest moment in my time here
Speaker 7: when when Lauren said you were coming and I this
Speaker 7: is me talking to her in a crowded restaurant, me
Speaker 7: me going, and I said.
Speaker 5: Lady Gaga and she like her face.
Speaker 7: Kind of twitched and she like looked around because like
Speaker 7: I shouted her name to her face in a crowded room.
Speaker 7: So I think I've I've I've really I've really fucked
Speaker 7: it up with multiple people.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think that kind of shit like endears you more
Speaker 2: to people than anyone could know, because.
Speaker 1: The truth is, she was fine.
Speaker 2: She was fine, and now it's something funny that happened,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I told Kelly, like I would approachar
Speaker 2: or take steps towards her and start hyper ventilating crying
Speaker 2: like I don't know. I I And how good would
Speaker 2: the Gaga episode.
Speaker 1: Of Lost Coach be?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I do think she'd be better on
Speaker 2: Stradio Lab. She'd be better on Stradio Lab. But we'd
Speaker 2: have a good episode with her. That's I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree Lightning Round. What Housewives would you go to
Speaker 4: space with?
Speaker 5: Amazing question.
Speaker 1: I would go to space, Candace. I would go to
Speaker 1: space with Candace, deep space, deep space.
Speaker 2: I think it could be fun to go to space
Speaker 2: with Alexia and Marissol.
Speaker 1: I think me you, Alexia and Marassol.
Speaker 5: Yep, that we would cut up.
Speaker 1: Would be a space party.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: For sure, favorite milf in culture.
Speaker 5: It's Betty.
Speaker 1: Have you have you like grappled with milf them?
Speaker 3: You know, I've realized it's a humbling I think most
Speaker 3: people are under thirty in this house. It's a it's
Speaker 3: a humbling moment when you realize the milf section in
Speaker 3: porn is your age were You're.
Speaker 4: Like, oh my gosh, yes, what do you there's anyway?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, can I say, like that happens before
Speaker 2: you know it, because we went from we went from
Speaker 2: twins to like to daddy yeah so fast, and now
Speaker 2: it's like what.
Speaker 7: It's like, I was just aw right. You fully bypassed twine.
Speaker 1: There was no it was just weird. Especially when I
Speaker 1: grow my facial hair out.
Speaker 2: I look at pictures of myself, I'm like, I guess, like,
Speaker 2: it's not It's not ever gonna be twink again.
Speaker 1: My body won't allow it. I tried.
Speaker 4: Oh, I have this question to you. What are your
Speaker 4: Broadway dream rules?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've told you what I want us
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 4: I know what I want you to do to Book
Speaker 4: of Mormon.
Speaker 2: That we should do Book of Mormon. Yeah, okay, the
Speaker 2: movie version.
Speaker 4: I think roxy Velma.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, do you think roxy Velma, he's Velma,
Speaker 2: he's Relma. Sure, okay, So did you know that we
Speaker 2: once did at the Annoyance Theater in Brooklyn.
Speaker 5: God Rest, god Rest.
Speaker 1: We did a mash up.
Speaker 2: It was the story, No, it was the music of
Speaker 2: Chicago to the story of Black Swan.
Speaker 5: Henry Kaperski of Chicago, his.
Speaker 7: Ex boyfriend was just an angel genius would do these
Speaker 7: shows where it was a movie soundtrack, like like a
Speaker 7: movie with musical numbers from a different similar in theme musical.
Speaker 7: So there was what like the music of Wicked with
Speaker 7: something else product devil wors Pradaah.
Speaker 2: Wow, au wizard will see you now, and the Wizard's like,
Speaker 2: not great, what wait what that's the devil worst pradac
Speaker 2: Wicked thing? Totally totally yeah, but it worked like it
Speaker 2: was very like I think I'm not That girl was
Speaker 2: Emily blant right.
Speaker 5: It all kind of tracks pretty neatly, but.
Speaker 2: I was Mila slash Velma and Bowen was Natalie slash Roxy.
Speaker 4: Oh so you've done it.
Speaker 5: We've done done it.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: But we would we would, we would love to do it.
Speaker 2: He's always like, we well, you don't not always like this.
Speaker 2: But back in the day. I feel like you used
Speaker 2: to be like, and we should come out in the
Speaker 2: beginning like we always want to do like a musical number.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I was at the beginning of our live shows.
Speaker 2: He's like, and we'll do the Hot Honey Rag. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I want the confidence. You have to think, well,
Speaker 2: the hot Honey Rag.
Speaker 7: I when I was twelve years old when Chicago came out,
Speaker 7: learned the entire dance from the movie in my basement.
Speaker 5: I like, I could. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So you already had it. I would have had to
Speaker 2: learn it. And this is this is another thing. One time,
Speaker 2: remember when we did that live show in Brooklyn and
Speaker 2: you were like, and we'll have to start out singing
Speaker 2: our song by Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was great.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it. I had to learn it, that's right.
Speaker 2: That's why I kept singing. Our song is a scram
Speaker 2: and scream door, scram and screamcram and scream door.
Speaker 3: Was there ever a time in your career of auditioning
Speaker 3: that you auditioned for musicals, like went in for big
Speaker 3: open calls or something for Broadway?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Never, I never went you did it.
Speaker 4: I did too, and I had no business being there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: We definitely had business being there, but the environments make
Speaker 2: you feel fucking crazy. Yes, yeah, there's nothing like sitting
Speaker 2: on one side of a door and hearing someone with
Speaker 2: a pop belt per fi voice. Yes, just do it,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I have to go in now, and
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to come here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yes, totally yeah.
Speaker 5: When are you doing something?
Speaker 3: No, it's I if I had started voice lessons ten
Speaker 3: years ago, I could have Rihanna's range.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, but that's actually huge to hear.
Speaker 4: No. I.
Speaker 3: When I first was auditioning, I had the stoned confidence
Speaker 3: of a twenty one year old, like, yeah, go in
Speaker 3: for stuff. And the only time I've ever been fired
Speaker 3: from something was a musical workshop of the Sylvia.
Speaker 4: Plath musical.
Speaker 1: Were You Miss Miss the title.
Speaker 3: Role of Miss Plaith? Two days of rehearsals and the
Speaker 3: director called me.
Speaker 4: She was like, how do you think it's going?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: It's like fully fired.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the last musical I auditioned for was The
Speaker 3: Adams Family Musical, where I sat in the waiting room
Speaker 3: listening to people be like and.
Speaker 4: I went in there and was like, maybe I'm amazed
Speaker 4: at the way.
Speaker 5: That you it was.
Speaker 2: I used to sing a Sunday Morning by Maroon five, Oh,
Speaker 2: a great song, and it.
Speaker 5: Was similar to maybe I'm amazed it was the right song.
Speaker 1: Music theater. We got fired for musical improv group.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was not.
Speaker 7: It was a musical improv group where a group where
Speaker 7: you had to improvise the lyrics to pre uh to
Speaker 7: karaoke tracks basically, so you would just have to memorize
Speaker 7: the songs but then have like a grasp on meter
Speaker 7: and the way syllables fell into like beloved pop songs
Speaker 7: and make them funny somehow.
Speaker 5: It was so hard.
Speaker 1: And he said that we need to take a class, and.
Speaker 5: We never did.
Speaker 3: You need to take a class. Okay, what's from mackenzie.
Speaker 3: What's one thing you wish you could tell yourself from
Speaker 3: ten years ago?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's actually emotion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Ten years ago, So twenty three, I was I honestly wow,
Speaker 2: I would have just been like, not only is it
Speaker 2: gonna work out, but it's gonna like it's gonna blow
Speaker 2: your mind. So just keep going forward and keep having
Speaker 2: good intentions and trying hard and and like I would
Speaker 2: also say, don't take for granted the relationships, because the
Speaker 2: relationships are everything, you know what I mean, Like all
Speaker 2: the amazing people that we've met along the way, including
Speaker 2: each other. It's just so incredible to see it all
Speaker 2: pay off in this way that's perfect.
Speaker 1: Like it's just so cool.
Speaker 2: It's beyond incredible that Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson, oh
Speaker 2: have Dix the musical, Like, and I would just say, like,
Speaker 2: have follow what you think is fun and don't be
Speaker 2: of don't be afraid, and like it's it's because it's
Speaker 2: gonna work out, like just keep keep going, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I would have said to myself, God,
Speaker 7: like just just don't don't like, just advocate.
Speaker 5: For yourself or something like.
Speaker 7: I think I still kind of have this weird like
Speaker 7: I don't have the gene in me that like shows
Speaker 7: up for me and I and I feel like it
Speaker 7: was it was way worse back then, and I feel
Speaker 7: like now it's gotten a lot better.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like ten years ago.
Speaker 7: But I also think, and this is gonna sound ridiculous,
Speaker 7: I feel like not that much is different in a
Speaker 7: way that's really really nice and beautiful. And I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm the the essence of us is is basically the same,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 2: I mean that's like ten years ago. That was like
Speaker 2: even before the podcast started, because we started that when
Speaker 2: we were twenty six.
Speaker 1: And I think that.
Speaker 2: I also, I never used to think of myself as
Speaker 2: a comedian because I didn't do stand up, like I remember.
Speaker 2: I think that was something that we shared too. Both
Speaker 2: of us were like really unsure about where we fit
Speaker 2: in in the comedy thing because you did improv and like,
Speaker 2: you know, people have had a future doing improv. But
Speaker 2: it's other things, right, I mean, what's the thing. I
Speaker 2: guess acting I did sketch like and I was trying
Speaker 2: to do stand up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really clicking. I didn't know who I was.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's because we were so other
Speaker 2: Like in our comedy community, It's like there was no
Speaker 2: one who had a career that I could look up to,
Speaker 2: like they're like me, and they're doing it and like
Speaker 2: the way I want to do it or can see
Speaker 2: myself doing it. So it kind of afforded this nice
Speaker 2: choose your own adventure of like our our entire comedy
Speaker 2: careers to the point where like when we started lost culturist.
Speaker 2: Thus I think that's why it worked, is because we
Speaker 2: weren't trying to be anything but ourselves, because we didn't
Speaker 2: see ourselves like working, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: it didn't really with who like where who? What was
Speaker 2: the bluepoint to follow? Bluepoint blueprint? Blueprint. I was just
Speaker 2: on THENG Island drinking beers.
Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 2: Yesterday I had a pumpkin beer favorite.
Speaker 1: I had three actually, But I think that that that
Speaker 1: like sort.
Speaker 2: Of wilderness of the entertainment industry and comedy in us,
Speaker 2: not literally not fitting in. It just allowed us to
Speaker 2: be ourselves. And so maybe that's something yeah, encouraging yourself
Speaker 2: to go back in time and be like be yourself.
Speaker 1: It's it, it will work.
Speaker 7: But and this is not me just like jerking us off.
Speaker 7: But I think on that note, like I think we did.
Speaker 5: We.
Speaker 7: I think we like became this nice mental model for
Speaker 7: other comedians that we were friends with to be like
Speaker 7: you can. You can also this is a viable pathway
Speaker 7: for comedy or like it's waited for you to at
Speaker 7: least make some money off of doing common where a
Speaker 7: lot of those opportunities are scant. It's like they're like
Speaker 7: like I think, like look, look just get two people
Speaker 7: who are funny like on stage to like sit down
Speaker 7: in front of a microphone and then have like conversations
Speaker 7: where you listen and you feel like like like listening
Speaker 7: to Pat and Kat and George and Sam and like everybody,
Speaker 7: I'm just like, oh, I feel like I'm in the
Speaker 7: room with them, and like, yeah, that's I think that
Speaker 7: was a nice I think I'm not saying we set
Speaker 7: the trend. I'm saying we we I think we, you know,
Speaker 7: gave a blue point blueprint for other people.
Speaker 2: The I don't think so, honey, live shows when we
Speaker 2: were doing them too like oh thangs, oh, but that
Speaker 2: was the that was one of the first times when
Speaker 2: we realize bring them back with so we can really
Speaker 2: get canceled. I think about ones that have been on
Speaker 2: the live shows and I'm like, oh my god. Ah,
Speaker 2: but like that was the first time where like we
Speaker 2: got fifty of our peers all up on stage and
Speaker 2: you would never have seen people on the same bill
Speaker 2: like that, just because of the way that the New
Speaker 2: York comedy community was at the time, and it felt
Speaker 2: like not not not like oh wow, we did this,
Speaker 2: but we're a part of this and it's bigger you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so watching the comedy community change and us being involved
Speaker 2: in that was so special. Yeah, and now it's sort
Speaker 2: of branched out even further. It's like, you know, you
Speaker 2: do see so many more people having opportunities and getting
Speaker 2: to show off what they can do than you did
Speaker 2: ten years ago. So maybe that's another thing, is like
Speaker 2: telling that generation of comedians ten years ago, like there's
Speaker 2: a place for you, Like like they're gonna listen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like everything you guys do, I feel
Speaker 3: like how did they know to do that?
Speaker 4: Like your your most recent single.
Speaker 3: Like that is the most genius amazing, Like it's the
Speaker 3: niches you have created and found are so inspiring and
Speaker 3: how amazing to have your friendship and podcast be this
Speaker 3: touchstone or this thing that you're gonna take the whole way.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, my daughter is going to
Speaker 3: be three and her first best friend, I'm like, can.
Speaker 1: Zadi go to college with her? Like they must stay together.
Speaker 3: And hearing you guys on the podcast as your careers
Speaker 3: explode and your lives happen, it's so wonderful to hear
Speaker 3: you both be like, oh, come on, get over yourself,
Speaker 3: or like come on celebrate yourself, like in the exact
Speaker 3: waves that you need to be there for each other.
Speaker 3: And it's just so beautiful to listen to. And we
Speaker 3: all love you so much. And it's eight oh five, baby, Betty.
Speaker 2: I just, I mean, thank you so much for doing
Speaker 2: this and just from the bottom of our hearts, like everyone,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for even wanting to come to
Speaker 2: something like this and for listening to us. You know,
Speaker 2: whenever anyone comes up on this on the street and says,
Speaker 2: I'm a Katie or I'm a reader, I'm a publicist
Speaker 2: from Finalists Bold.
Speaker 7: But I love the energy, huh come people people have
Speaker 7: identified as a finalist and I go, wow, whoa, Oh no,
Speaker 7: I I admire it so deeply, you really do.
Speaker 1: But we just love you so very much.
Speaker 4: What is a finalist but a reader? Cocoon?
Speaker 5: Yes, that's from WandaVision.
Speaker 7: Anytime, anytime we meet anyone who listens to the podcast,
Speaker 7: it's an immediate like stop, we gotta we gotta connect
Speaker 7: with these people because they they're the ones who get us,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, So thank you for coming.
Speaker 5: I mean so so thank you.
Speaker 1: Ame