WEBVTT - The Mark Moss Show Nov 23, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark mo Show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're talking about the decentralized Revolution. Of course, each

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<v Speaker 1>and every week we talked about through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology, and the story we are talking about today

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<v Speaker 1>is really a battle over decentralization, what people think is

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized versus what really is. And this really is about

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency and what is decentralized and what is centralized, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's centralized. That is the problem, which is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get away from, which is why we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the decentralized Revolution. Now, if you are just tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in and you've missed. In the beginning, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this f t X blow up in the cryptocurrency space.

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<v Speaker 1>We framed up um how this whole thing worked, how

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<v Speaker 1>they are two companies worked, how they create value out

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<v Speaker 1>of thin air, why venture capitalists love it, why the

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<v Speaker 1>media loves it, why advertisers love it, why it got

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<v Speaker 1>so much hype and play. Then we got into the

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<v Speaker 1>deep ties that Sam Bankman Freed, the founder of ft X,

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<v Speaker 1>have inside the government. So if you missed any of that,

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<v Speaker 1>go back and check out our one on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You can link to that um or um check me

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<v Speaker 1>out on YouTube as well, just search Mark Moss and

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<v Speaker 1>watch me there as well. Now let's keep going in here.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about the deep ties that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to the government, and that's part of the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, right, It's always about the favors. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>about the money that you want to put into the market.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know that there were deep ties, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>deep ties with the World I Coming Forum, deep ties

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<v Speaker 1>even in the Ukrainian government, deep ties into the US government,

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<v Speaker 1>both in donating being the second largest donor to the

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<v Speaker 1>binder Bind administration and then donating over forty million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for the mid term elections, basically influencing every election across

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Big big, big big deals um. On top

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<v Speaker 1>of this, as as bad as that is, then we

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<v Speaker 1>also know that there's connections with the regulatory bodies, the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC and the CFTC. We can see here that Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Bankman Freed's father, so I said, both of his parents

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<v Speaker 1>are very connected into the Democratic Party, both in influencing policy, writing,

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<v Speaker 1>policy and so forth. We can see here that we

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<v Speaker 1>can see here that Sam Bankman Freed's father actually drafted

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<v Speaker 1>tax legislation force Senator Elizabeth Warren and donated thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to their party. So Senator Elizabeth Warren, who of

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<v Speaker 1>course has been very very outspoken about this, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to the bottom of this, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to fix this and she needs to protect the people. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's father writes her legislation and her policies and

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<v Speaker 1>donates money to her campaign. Oh what a tangled web

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<v Speaker 1>this is. She introduced a bill called the Tax Filing

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<v Speaker 1>Simplification Act in Warren, who currently chairs both the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>Banking Committee Economic Policy and the Senate Finance Committee's Fiscal

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<v Speaker 1>Responsibilities of Committee. Um, is somehow connected to this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not saying she's a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to draw that conclusion. But again, this

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<v Speaker 1>goes deep. Bankman Fried says here was donated the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about that, all right, So that's part of it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We also know, like I said earlier, if he just

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<v Speaker 1>tuned in, that his girlfriend ran the sister company Alameda,

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<v Speaker 1>which UM, her father was the boss of Gary Ginsler,

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the SEC. We also know that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>when all of this came out um FTX froze everybody's money,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't allow anybody to get out. Um, there was about

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars sitting on the exchange that could potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get divided up between customers or could get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, divided up creditors or something like that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was about one point seven billion dollars in assets

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<v Speaker 1>there and then they just disappeared. So f t X says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a hack. There was a hack. All that money

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<v Speaker 1>just disappeared, which is pretty coincidental. Right again, where they're smoked,

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<v Speaker 1>there's fire. Um it says that it might be taken

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<v Speaker 1>up by the SEC and d o J in their investigations.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bankman Freed allegedly allegedly implemented a back door in

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<v Speaker 1>t f into f d x's book keeping system. Reuters

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<v Speaker 1>repeated that the alleged back door enabled Bankman Freed to

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<v Speaker 1>execute commands that could alter the company's financial records without

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<v Speaker 1>alerting other people, including external auditors. The very fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they would have something like this again, why do you

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<v Speaker 1>build something like this so you could move funds without

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<v Speaker 1>alerting auditors unless you are moving funds without alerting auditors,

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<v Speaker 1>or you want to move funds with like like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is like this whole like, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know now now all this conspiracy that people were the

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<v Speaker 1>platform for for saying that, you know, the COVID could

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<v Speaker 1>have come from a lab, and now the government says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually did come from a lab. Uh. But why

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<v Speaker 1>were they work why do they work on these things

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<v Speaker 1>in a lab? Like what's what's the point unless you

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<v Speaker 1>want to use them? Right, and so why would you

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<v Speaker 1>build a back door unless you want to use it?

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<v Speaker 1>And it gets even better than that. So the there's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Dan Freedberg who is the Chief Regulatory

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<v Speaker 1>Officer the middle word regulatory, the chief regulatory officer, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's supposed to be in charge of regulations, Dan Freeburg. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a troubled past. It's a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes from another company called Ultimate Bets that got

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<v Speaker 1>brought up on charges of having what, oh a back door?

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm seems pretty coincidental. So he had a company

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<v Speaker 1>called Ultimate Bets that was fined massively for having a

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<v Speaker 1>back door something he called god code that allowed him

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<v Speaker 1>to see all the hands of all the other gamblers

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<v Speaker 1>on the platform, so then he could then play against them.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine being playing poker and seeing all your opponents cards,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing when you could bluff them, knowing when you should fold,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And that's what he built in, and he

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<v Speaker 1>got busted for it. And now he just happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be the chief regulatory officer of this company which has

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<v Speaker 1>a back door in which, um, you know, billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of customer funds disappeared without triggering internal compliance or

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<v Speaker 1>accounting red flags. Now, bankman Freed told Reuters that he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't implemented a back door, but the investigations show otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>And supposedly SEC and d o J are investigating this

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<v Speaker 1>UM and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and deeper and deeper and deeper. UM. So what

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<v Speaker 1>else we can see here? That, as I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>Maxine Waters, she's now um. Democrats decided to recommit funds

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<v Speaker 1>from FTX donations towards charity or other party campaigns after

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<v Speaker 1>they filed bankruptcy. Maxine Waters is dodging questions, says she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to get into it. She is the chairwoman

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<v Speaker 1>of the House Financial Services Committee. She said they would

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<v Speaker 1>be having a hearing to explore interesting. Um, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>even deeper than that if we want to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do I mean by that? Well, we can

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<v Speaker 1>see that as I said, there's massive ties to the

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<v Speaker 1>regulatory bodies, the SEC and the se f TC, Maxine Waters,

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<v Speaker 1>House Financial Committee, Um, Senator Elizabeth Warren, I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration, even the world document format, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes deep, deep, deep. And again, um, where there's smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>there's fire. Typically, Now what happens next? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a key piece to understanding. Now. Hopefully if

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<v Speaker 1>you're here on our one and you understood how this

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<v Speaker 1>all worked, understanding what comes next is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>easier to understand. Now what comes next in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the short to mid term for stam Bankman Freed,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a you know, in in election markets, they run

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<v Speaker 1>polls to find out who gets elected. The polls aren't

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<v Speaker 1>typically as accurate as the betting markets are. The betting

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<v Speaker 1>markets are typically more accurate because people actually put their

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<v Speaker 1>money where their mouth is. They have to put up

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<v Speaker 1>money to vote versus polls. People just like say whatever, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's actually a betting market on will SPF be

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<v Speaker 1>federally indicted by the end of the year. Pretty interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you won't believe what the betting markets are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you will. Um, if his money, his billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars he created out of thin air, defrauded with

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<v Speaker 1>counterfeit money and poured into the political parties of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats and the and the president and the regulators, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>will believe what this betting market says. But I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with that and more in a minute of Just

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<v Speaker 1>tune in your listening to the Mark Moss Show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the f t X fiasco, the crypto market meltdown.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with that and more in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't go away, all right, Welcome back. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark mos Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about Sam Bankman freed f t X and

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<v Speaker 1>the blow up happening. I was talking about how, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably the biggest case of fraud that we've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe potentially since I don't know Enron, or

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<v Speaker 1>since um, you know Bernie made off, potentially something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, Uh, speaking about in Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron if you're not familiar, was a giant company that

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<v Speaker 1>did massive amounts of fraud and money laundering, embezzlement and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. And Um, what we can see is

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<v Speaker 1>that when f t X filed for bankruptcy, they filed

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<v Speaker 1>for Chapter eleven and they had to file an affidavit,

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<v Speaker 1>and they appointed a restructuring CEO, John Ray the Third,

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<v Speaker 1>and he oversaw in Ron's bankruptcy proceedings and he, after

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the contents of their affid David calls f

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<v Speaker 1>t x is case the worst of his career and

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<v Speaker 1>the contents are shocking. So the guy who sat on

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<v Speaker 1>arguably the biggest fraud case in history is now saying

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<v Speaker 1>that this is actually the worst that he's just seen

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<v Speaker 1>in his whole career. So let's see what he has

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<v Speaker 1>to say here. Um, it says, Look, we owe a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people a lot of money, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where it all is, but we're looking. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where the money went, we don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>we owe to, but don't worry, We're gonna look into

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<v Speaker 1>it all right. Um. He says that it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the He is one of the most experienced restructuring executives

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, having an overseen n RON and a

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<v Speaker 1>slew of other high profile bankruptcies. Um Ray's statements are

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<v Speaker 1>given under penalty of perjury. All right, So that's to

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<v Speaker 1>say that a serious investigation. Ray opens with his experience

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<v Speaker 1>and then immediately condemns f t X as the worst

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<v Speaker 1>case of his career. Quote. Never in my career have

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<v Speaker 1>I seen such a complete failure of corporate controls and

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<v Speaker 1>such a complete absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred

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<v Speaker 1>here in quote. So it wasn't just like some mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have a corporation and you have investors. There

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<v Speaker 1>are things that are required to be done by law,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did none of those. Never have seen such

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<v Speaker 1>a complete failure of corporate control. So there's controls that

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to be in place to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you do the best things, and they have failed all

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<v Speaker 1>those things. He identified four businesses within f t X,

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<v Speaker 1>so we kind of know about these Alameda um different

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<v Speaker 1>f t X things, and that's not super important, but

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<v Speaker 1>he said, he immediately communicates distrust of any furnished financials.

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<v Speaker 1>F t X US balance sheet shows one point three

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<v Speaker 1>six billion in assets. However, he says, quote because this

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<v Speaker 1>balance sheet was produced while the debtors were controlled by

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Bankman Fried, I do not have confidence in in quote,

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<v Speaker 1>so basically saying, look, we don't trust anything that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to say. We can't believe any of this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He then goes on to recount SPS negotiations with attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>and his father around filing chapter eleven, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>his interview with Vox. SPF stated as his biggest regret,

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that everything would be fixed by now if he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't so f SPF the head of f t X UM,

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<v Speaker 1>he just can't keep his mouth out and he can't

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<v Speaker 1>stay out of trouble. He started having um U a

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<v Speaker 1>d M conversation with a reporter from Vox, and in

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<v Speaker 1>this he, I mean just gave out so much damning information.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. It's incredible that he would actually say this

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<v Speaker 1>and not just say it like verbally where someone could

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<v Speaker 1>misconstrue it. No, no, no, he actually put it in

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<v Speaker 1>text where people could read it. The reporter said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>you were really good at talking about ethics for someone

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<v Speaker 1>who kind of saw it all as a game with

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<v Speaker 1>winners and losers, and Sam Bankman Fried says, yeah, he he,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be he he. He's laughing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were talking. You're good about talking about um

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<v Speaker 1>Paul ethics, right, because he was in Washington trying to

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<v Speaker 1>push regulations to supposedly regulate the fraud out of the

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<v Speaker 1>crypto industry while he was doing it. So the reporter said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you were good about talking about it, and he said yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He he had to be. It's what reputations are made up.

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<v Speaker 1>To some extent, I feel I feel bad for those

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<v Speaker 1>who get ft by it, by this dumb game we

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<v Speaker 1>woke Westerners play, where we say all the right shibbo

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<v Speaker 1>with and so everyone likes us. So he says, right

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<v Speaker 1>here to the reporter, I had to I had to pretend.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for those who get fed by it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, those hundreds of thousands of families who

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<v Speaker 1>literally lost their life savings, and people who don't have

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<v Speaker 1>medications now, and kids can't go to college now, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have homes anymore. I feel bad for those

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<v Speaker 1>people who get fed by my lies, my pretending to

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody, by this dumb game we woke Westerners play,

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<v Speaker 1>where we say all the right things so people like us. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do that. That's called lies, that's called deceit

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<v Speaker 1>and that's called fraud. No, that's out what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he did. This is what he said in

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<v Speaker 1>text message. I mean, I just can't believe it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole world thought he was the smartest guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the smartest Some of the smartest investors in

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<v Speaker 1>the world got totally scammed by this guy, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand because he can't even keep his mouth shut.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what he said in text messages. He put

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<v Speaker 1>this into writing. Nobody with half a brain would put

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff into writing. Um. Elon Musk apparently he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to donate, or not donate, but invest up the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars into Elon Must take over of Twitter. And

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Must said, just ever sitting down with him, just

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of minutes, his BS alarms were going

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<v Speaker 1>off and he knew that he couldn't take on any

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<v Speaker 1>of his money. So, um, this was not Uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>was this was not something that nobody caught. People caught it.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk caught it. They could see it. Now. People

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see it because they didn't want to see it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's see, let's see if we can find some

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<v Speaker 1>more of what he said here. There was a whole

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<v Speaker 1>thread on it. But I seem to have lost it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Um he he bamboozled. Will say, well, he bamboozled the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Jim Kramer. Jim Kramer Um called him the

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<v Speaker 1>next Jp Morgan. We have Fortune magazine, saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be the next Warren Buffett, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>all he turned out to be was a big Bernie

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<v Speaker 1>made off. What else did he say here? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, uh, uh, they said the reporter said, you

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<v Speaker 1>said a lot of stuff about how you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make regulations just good ones. Was that pretty much just

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<v Speaker 1>PR two? And he said, there's really no one out

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<v Speaker 1>there making such good things happen. Bad things don't. So

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<v Speaker 1>he said, uh, he said, yeah, just pr F regulators.

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<v Speaker 1>They make everything worse. They don't protect customers at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his quote. So you you talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to protect us with regulations, was that pr Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just pr F regulators. They make everything worse, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>protect customers at all. Hopefully that might be a warning

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<v Speaker 1>shot across the bow of the sec um because he

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<v Speaker 1>called them out F the regulators. They make everything worse,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't protect customers. At all. Well, they certainly didn't

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<v Speaker 1>protect customers at all from losing ten billion dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about what regulators are gonna do next and

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<v Speaker 1>what that means for the industry overall, and what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>calling the last cryptocurrency bowl market will ever see. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do I mean by that? But we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that in a minute. If you're tuning and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the Markma Show, we're talking about, of course, the decentralized Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're talking about the s SPF, n f F

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<v Speaker 1>t X below. I'll be right back with more. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>go away, Hello, and welcome back. If you are just

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in you're listening to the Mark Mo Show, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the ft X cryptocurrency exchange blowing up, the

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<v Speaker 1>largest meltdown we've seen in the cryptocurrency space. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about regulations. So just before we went

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<v Speaker 1>to break, I was reading quoting a direct message conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that SPF had with some reporter from Box and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, they asked him, Uh, you said a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff about how you wanted to make regulations. Was

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<v Speaker 1>that just pr two? He says, Yes, just pr F

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<v Speaker 1>regulators they make everything worse. They don't protect consumers or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, they don't protect customers at all. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC is supposed to be there to protect customers.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, they don't do it, and they certainly didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all up in his business. If they can't

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<v Speaker 1>catch this, they can't catch anything. If if if a

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<v Speaker 1>law abide incorporation forgets to cross a T on a document,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be all up in their business with fines.

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<v Speaker 1>But him, he's just still in ten billion dollars. Never

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<v Speaker 1>mind that they certainly didn't protect customers. So what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>Well again I read I told you there's a betting

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<v Speaker 1>market to see whether he gets indicted or not. Sevent

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<v Speaker 1>say no, he will not be indicted by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. He should already be in handcuffs. He

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<v Speaker 1>should have been handcuffed immediately as soon as we found

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<v Speaker 1>out he stole that money. It should have been game over.

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<v Speaker 1>What is he even doing walking around? What do we mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he be indicted? Are you kidd he meet? We

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<v Speaker 1>have all the facts we need, We have the information

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<v Speaker 1>right here, we have all the documentation everything. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he's walking around a freeman is just unbelievable to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And will he ever be indicted? Well, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the betting. Marcus saying no, why Well, Gary Ginsler ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the sec says, well, it's a Bahamas it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas corporation. So I don't know if we have jurisdiction.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have jurisdiction. Well, he did have an offshore corporation,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also had f t x US. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>a U. S citizen. He also has defrauded all these

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<v Speaker 1>American citizens of money. What do you mean we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have jurisdiction. I mean that's just insanity for Gary Gains

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<v Speaker 1>that is saying something like that, we need heads to roll,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we need. We need, we need examples. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid that this is just unfortunately, as I'm calling

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<v Speaker 1>the decentralized revolution, the entire world is going through a

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<v Speaker 1>revolution and it's going to be very messy. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this all over. Nobody wants to take accountability, Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to take responsibility. All we want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>continually shuck off that. And so it's not the federal

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<v Speaker 1>reserves fault. They didn't understand inflation and they printed way

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<v Speaker 1>too much money, and now we have inflation. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>their faults, nobody's fault. Nobody's fault. You know, all these

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<v Speaker 1>people that perpetrated this whole COVID pandemic and the lockdowns

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<v Speaker 1>and all the damage and unharmedus cause from that. And

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<v Speaker 1>now they're saying the Atlantic ran that piece and said

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<v Speaker 1>we just need amnesty. You know, we didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing. Can we just forgive all that? No? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. We need accountability, We need responsibility, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need examples made. People must pay the price, not just

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<v Speaker 1>because they've done wrong, which they have, but also so

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<v Speaker 1>other people don't do the same thing. You don't just

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<v Speaker 1>wipe out ten billion dollars of people's wealth like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a number on a spreadsheet, without understanding the lives

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<v Speaker 1>that are at risk. You don't just walk away from

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<v Speaker 1>that and pretend like nothing happened, because what prevents the

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<v Speaker 1>next guy from doing that? I mean, shoot, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can just go still ten billion dollars and have no um,

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<v Speaker 1>no responsibility or consequences for that, I mean maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>should all just do that now. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I've read before UM Vladimir Linen um in Russia. Bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>of Russia a hundred years ago said that the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to destroy capitalism is to debouch the currency. So

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<v Speaker 1>de Devalue debase the currency through inflation. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing here, I'm not reading directly, but he said, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>through inflation you can steal and confiscate wealth arbitrarily. So

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<v Speaker 1>just as as you want, you can just take people's money.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you wanted to say that through a series

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<v Speaker 1>of inflation, you'll lose all relation to money and society

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<v Speaker 1>will break down. The best way to get rich will

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<v Speaker 1>be through theft and gambling. Sam Bankman Fried Jim Kramer

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<v Speaker 1>said the next Jp Morgan. Fortune Magazine said he's the

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<v Speaker 1>next war and Buffett. He had built a thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar company in three years. Um. All the political elite,

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<v Speaker 1>the world Ecomic Forum, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, the Bide

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<v Speaker 1>administration all praised him. He's the smartest guy in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>All theft. So remember what Vladimir Lenin said, The best

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<v Speaker 1>way to get wealth will be through gambling and theft.

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<v Speaker 1>He stole all the money, he counterfeited it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he made more money by given it to gamblers. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>gambling and theft. He theft and he made money off gambling.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we don't said an example, then we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get more of the same. Now, I wouldn't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I have morals. Luckily, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>I have a father, I have a family that raised

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<v Speaker 1>me up with morals and integrity and a conscience. Unfortunately

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>most people don't these days. And so if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>make an example out of this, if there's no consequences

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<v Speaker 1>to pay, if there's no responsibility, then what will stop

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<v Speaker 1>people from doing the same thing? And of course the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is nothing will. My guess is though, that I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to see some massive regulations come from this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna have to see Chair SEC Chair

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<v Speaker 1>Gainsler said this week quote non compliant end quote crypto

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<v Speaker 1>industry um needs to be cracked down on. He says, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>crypto investors need better protection in the space that is

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<v Speaker 1>significantly non compliant despite clear regulations. US Security An Exchange

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner Gary Ginsler said in an interview to CNBC on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, quote the runway is running out. Investors around

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<v Speaker 1>the globe are getting hurt in quote yeah, no, kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten billion dollars gone. Um, so I think I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think they're gonna be forced in order

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. Now, what is the security and what

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<v Speaker 1>is a what is a commodity? And what does this

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<v Speaker 1>mean for the cryptocurrency space overall? Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>put out a tweet on Twitter. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are not liking my tweet on Twitter because I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I believe we've seen the last crypto

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<v Speaker 1>bull market. So a lot of people they got in

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, they lost their money. But wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't get into the bull market. I

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<v Speaker 1>need one more? Can I get one more? Please? One more?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said there's not going to be another one.

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<v Speaker 1>People aren't happy about that. So what do I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that? Well, if you're around on our one and

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<v Speaker 1>you heard how I explained how all of this worked.

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<v Speaker 1>If you weren't here, go back and listen to that,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't understand that, you're not gonna understand

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm about to say. So remember, they create these

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>tokens out of thin air, and then venture capitalists come

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<v Speaker 1>in and give them a little bit of money to

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<v Speaker 1>create this token out of thin air. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>venture capitalists are able to turn around and liquidate that

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<v Speaker 1>money right away. Now, venture capitalists is somebody who would

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<v Speaker 1>invests into early round companies, startups. Okay, now the way

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>venture capitalists vcs way, the way the VC funds works. Typically,

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<v Speaker 1>they put in a pool of money and then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>invest that over like say fifteen companies, and then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>give it like a seven to ten ten year time frames.

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<v Speaker 1>They know when I invest into Uber, for example, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take ten years before there's some sort of liquidity event.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I put my money into Uber or something

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<v Speaker 1>like Uber, how do I get my money back out?

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it has to be an a liquidity event, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that Uber either has to get bought out typically or

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<v Speaker 1>go public. If it goes public, then I get stock

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<v Speaker 1>and I can sell my stock. But if there's no

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<v Speaker 1>liquidity event, if it doesn't go public or doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>bought out out or some other way I can get

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<v Speaker 1>my money out, I don't get my money out. And

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<v Speaker 1>venture capitalists know that a lot of deals they do,

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<v Speaker 1>they won't ever get their money back out. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course the few that do, they make big, big money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way venture capital works. But now venture Capital

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<v Speaker 1>has been able to buy these tokens out of thin

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<v Speaker 1>air and then automatically made ten times on their money

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<v Speaker 1>by dumping in on unsuspecting retail And of course they

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<v Speaker 1>love it, which then means the media loves it, which

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<v Speaker 1>then means the advertisers love it, and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>all this hype around that. Now, if the if the

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<v Speaker 1>regulators come in and put laws around this, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it could be the end of the bull market. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people on Twitter are like, oh, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you're talking about. Um, it'll just

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<v Speaker 1>go off shore. Okay, sure, I agree. They can't stop

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<v Speaker 1>something decentralized. Okay, I agree. So if I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>those statements, then why would I say that there won't

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<v Speaker 1>be another crypto bull run? And by the way, i'm

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<v Speaker 1>breaking apart of course bitcoin not crypto. I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about them too interchangeably. I think we'll see bitcoin going

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<v Speaker 1>another bull run, and I think we might not see

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<v Speaker 1>crypto going another bull run. So what do I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that when I agree with all that, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>break all that down for you want to come back

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. If you're just tuning in, you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mark mass Show, breaking down the f t

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<v Speaker 1>X scenario, what's gonna happen with regulations, and what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with the crypto industry. We're back with all of that

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<v Speaker 1>and more when I come back after just a quick

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<v Speaker 1>short break. Don't go away, We're back, all right, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Moa Show. We are talking about the ft X blow up.

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<v Speaker 1>F t X, the second largest cryptocurrency exchange, blew up,

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<v Speaker 1>taking over ten billion dollars of customer money with it

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<v Speaker 1>um leaving probably I'm guessing hundreds of thousands of families

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 1>broke massive amounts of fraud, the greatest negligence of fraud

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>um that we might have ever seen. The the person

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<v Speaker 1>overseeing the f t X bankruptcy filing also worked on

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the n Ron case and he said it's the worst

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>he's seen in his career, and that's a lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that I think this is going to force

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<v Speaker 1>regulators to to impose more regulations, be more strict, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying if that happens, which I think it will,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think this could be the last crypto bull run. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before the break people I put this

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. People are all mad, They say, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean, Mark? They can't shut crypto down. It's decentralized.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>They and it'll just go off shore and the U S.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Regulators won't be able to reach it. I agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>But here's why I think it could be the last

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<v Speaker 1>bull run. The reason why is because this got all

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<v Speaker 1>of its momentum, It got all of its hype, it

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>got all of its money because venture capitalists were able

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and buy these tokens for nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>then instantly flipped them and make all this money and

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>then spend all this money for for media and for hype,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and everybody got all caught up in this. If all

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>of this goes off shore into these dark, unregulated markets,

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<v Speaker 1>that means like American firms, like these venture are capital firms,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that have the hundreds of billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and the media won't participate. So will it go off shore? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Will innovation still happen, of course it will. It will

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<v Speaker 1>just be a fraction of the size. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying I want this. Remember this is what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. It's not what I want to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like the sec to be disbanded. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see none of this happen, But this is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. So I think they're most likely going

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<v Speaker 1>to be forced to do something. I think that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely, they're going to deem almost all of these cryptocurrencies,

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<v Speaker 1>in my guess, like of them as securities, and most

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of them will just go away. Some of them will survive,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them will go off shore. But this VC money,

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<v Speaker 1>American VC money and media will not go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then the hype dies. And with the hype dies,

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<v Speaker 1>so does the next Bowl run. I'm not saying it

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<v Speaker 1>goes away. I'm not saying whatever seed it again, there

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<v Speaker 1>will still be stuff being innovated. There was stuff, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>being done. But this big run where all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden you can close your eyes and buy some stupid

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<v Speaker 1>dog coin, um, you know, cryptocurrency and make a thousand

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>times on it, I think those days are over. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the difference between bitcoin and crypto? Why would

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<v Speaker 1>I say I think bitcoin could have another Bowl run

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<v Speaker 1>and crypto won't. So let's think think about this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>two types of kind of financial assets that we can

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<v Speaker 1>buy one is one are commodities, and one are securities.

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<v Speaker 1>Commodities and security Securities are regulated by the sec Commodities

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<v Speaker 1>are regulated by the CFTC. Commodities are things like gold,

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<v Speaker 1>like precious metals, gold and silver, platinum, palladium, et cetera.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>There are things like oil gas right. There are things

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<v Speaker 1>like food like wheat, corn. Right Now, what do wheat

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<v Speaker 1>and corn and oil and natural gas and precious metals

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<v Speaker 1>all have in common. Well, they all come from the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all like naturally hurrying things. There's no central issuer.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no company that invented corn and sells people investments

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<v Speaker 1>into creating corn. No, you can go buy a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of land and you can plant corn, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>plant wheat, or you can you can mine for gold

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<v Speaker 1>on your land, or you can droll for oil on

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<v Speaker 1>your land. Anybody in the world could go get land

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<v Speaker 1>and can go grow wheat or corn or dig for

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<v Speaker 1>gold or oil. Okay. And then no matter where in

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<v Speaker 1>the world I grow wheat, wheat sweet, it's fungible. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter where I dig for gold, if I dig for

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<v Speaker 1>gold in China or the US, it's still gold. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's commodities. Securities are different. Securities are companies. Security

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<v Speaker 1>is secured interests in companies. So a company starts, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to create this software, and um, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>raise money and you can buy a share, a stock,

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<v Speaker 1>a security in this company because in the future we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do these things or whatever. It's a big

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<v Speaker 1>difference a company versus a modity. So bitcoin is a commodity.

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<v Speaker 1>The SEC has been very clear about this. They said

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<v Speaker 1>unequivocally bitcoin is a commodity. And the reason why is

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin has no company. There's no company, there's no marketing department,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no regulators, there's no nothing, there's no steering committee,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one of the only very very few cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>that had no issuer. So bitcoin was a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>software that was created and released to the world. Anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>even right now today can go to go get a

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<v Speaker 1>computer and you can mine for bitcoin, just like you

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>can go mine for gold today. Now, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same advantage mining for gold as like Barrack Gold,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest gold mining company in the world. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the same advantage. They have way more money, they

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<v Speaker 1>can mind more gold than I can. But I can

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<v Speaker 1>still go look for gold if I want. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, I'm in California. One of my good

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>friends love to go mine for gold and the rivers

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and stuff in northern California and he finds gold all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Um, just like I can go buy a

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>computer and I can mind for bitcoin today. Now I

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have the same advantage that you know a big

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 1>publicly traded bitcoin mining company has, But but we can

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<v Speaker 1>still do it the same. And whether I mind the

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin or they mind the bigoin to same bitcoin, whether

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<v Speaker 1>I go find gold in the river or Barrett Gold

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<v Speaker 1>finds the gold, the same goal. Okay. But Ethereum, the

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<v Speaker 1>second largest cryptocurrency, was started by a company. Seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the tokens were pre mind, meaning when they created

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the company, they created the tokens and they kept seventy

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves and the rest they released on to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>And like a company, there's a steering group they're controlling

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<v Speaker 1>what it does. So if you haven't been paying attention,

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<v Speaker 1>Ethereum has changed their monetary policy I believe three times

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of years. They recently just changed

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<v Speaker 1>the entire consensus mechanism to go from a proof of

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<v Speaker 1>work to a proof of steak and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>ten year road map of what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's essentially controlled. Pre mind all right, now take cardano,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>take whatever X y Z token. I don't care. They're

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>all basically the same. There's a group of people that

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>control it. Now. Oh but it's decentralized governance. Okay, call

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it what you will. That's up for the SEC to decide.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>But they issued the tokens. So only bitcoin is a

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 1>commodity now, um, I believe, uh mon, narrow and light

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>coin and siah coin I think. So maybe there's like

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<v Speaker 1>three other ones that didn't actually have a issue or

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<v Speaker 1>as well, all the other ones had issuers, okay, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's a big difference. And so SEC has

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>already said one in a commodity. All the rest are

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<v Speaker 1>still open for interpretation. If they say they are securities,

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>then they have to be regulated securities. Now that this

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they go away. Now we have securities all day,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>all these companies and securities. There's just a high bar there.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>You can't create tokens from thin air. You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can go raise money, Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That's basically what companies do. Right, So if I want

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to if I want to start Uber, I go raise

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a hundred million dollars and I give you shares back,

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and those shares are each worth a percentage of that

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars, So just so you kind of are.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's just a lot of regulations around that. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's going to change the industry because

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<v Speaker 1>if real investors with real money had to give that

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<v Speaker 1>real money to a real company and maybe wouldn't get

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that money back for seven to ten years unless that

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>company actually succeeded and made a profit, you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>all the wild and rampant speculation that we see right now. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is bullish for bitcoin because bick, all

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<v Speaker 1>these cryptocurrencies, about twenty of them are what we would

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<v Speaker 1>call a denial of service attack against bitcoin. So in

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the computer space, we have these d d o S

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>attacks where like um, the spam will span a server

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and it will it will flood it and try to

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>block it out, and all these cryptocurrencies are like a

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>denial of service attack against bitcoin. So instead of money

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>going into bitcoin, which is a commodity of the digital asset,

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a commodity. Instead of money going in there supplying

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>demand end, they go into these other twenty thousand cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was two thousand, there was five thousand, there

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<v Speaker 1>was ten thousand, there's twenty thousand. Who knows there'll be fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they all go away, most of them go away,

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<v Speaker 1>except for the high bar of the ones that can

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<v Speaker 1>pass the Security Act, the majority of them go away. Well,

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>then all that money that was being siphoned into these

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, gambling tokens will find its way into bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why I said, I think the Last

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl run of crypto but not of bitcoin. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is very bearish for crypto as a category. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very bullish for bitcoin. And I believe people

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>are now starting to realize, like these are not the same,

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and all of this money that was finance we over

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>there will eventually find its way into bitcoin. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>my take. If you're just tune in, you listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark Mos Show, we are talking about the f

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<v Speaker 1>t X blow up, the cryptocurrency market melt down, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fraud that happened because of that. If you missed

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