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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I hope all of you had a fantastic weekend.

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Speaker 1: I know, I did, I know, Buck did. I hope

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Speaker 1: all of you did as well. Summer officially underway for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Your kids are either out of

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Speaker 1: school or they are very close to getting out of school.

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Speaker 1: I started off my morning with summer camp routine. Buck

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Speaker 1: dropping off, soccer, dropping off basketball, the boys, Travis boys,

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Speaker 1: super busy mom does a good job of keeping them

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Speaker 1: all aligned. We got so much to get into RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior not going away in the Democrat primary race and

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Speaker 1: saying a lot of really interesting things. Nicky Hayley pressed

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Speaker 1: on abortion. Thought she had a pretty good answer there.

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Speaker 1: What's Joe Manchin going to do? The Daily Beast is

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Speaker 1: obsessed with the Republican obsession on trans athletes, and CNN's

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Speaker 1: head gets absolutely massacred in an Atlantic article Chris licked.

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Speaker 1: But there's some really interesting quotes there, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with this.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, fantastic wee get for you. Everything

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Speaker 1: good with you and Carrie rolling down in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 3: I don't even remember what I did, but I slept

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Speaker 3: a lot and read a lot, So I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: That's a good combo. That's a good weekend if you

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Speaker 1: get to sleep a lot and you get to read

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Speaker 1: a lot. In my book, I was at the Little

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Speaker 1: League Fields, went to see the New Spider Verse movie,

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Speaker 1: and spent six hours recording the audio version half of

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Speaker 1: it of my new book. By the way, Jesse Kelly,

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Speaker 1: many of you listened to Jesse, many of your fans.

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Speaker 1: He's got a book coming out tomorrow. I believe he

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Speaker 1: will be with us in the third hour of this program,

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Speaker 1: So Buck, RFK Junior is not going away. We had

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Speaker 1: him on this program. A lot of you responded very

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Speaker 1: favorably to him, and a lot of what he's saying, frankly,

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Speaker 1: is just common sense, which is incredibly uncommon in the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party right now, and to me illustrative of the

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Speaker 1: degree to which people want truth tellers. And RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: is absolutely slamming COVID lockdowns, And Buck, can you even

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Speaker 1: think of any other Democrat out there who has criticized

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Speaker 1: COVID lockdowns publicly at all? Can you think, can you

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Speaker 1: think of any Democrat and you've said, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: but at least he's on the same team when it

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Speaker 1: comes to COVID lockdowns, Almost to a word, not one

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Speaker 1: Democrat has been able to say anything negative at all.

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Speaker 2: Can you think of any.

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Speaker 3: I can't think of a single one off the top

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Speaker 3: of my head. And I've been amazed at how few

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Speaker 3: pundits and writers and you know, influencers creators also have

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Speaker 3: just pretended like they didn't get absolutely everything wrong by

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Speaker 3: supporting masks, lockdowns and vaccine mandates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so RFK Junior is consistently polling at twenty

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Speaker 1: percent against Joe Biden, which is a pretty big numbering.

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Speaker 1: The DNC has got the rig job in effect to

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Speaker 1: try to keep it from even being able to compete.

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Speaker 3: So what's But I don't understand this because I get

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Speaker 3: people that are saying stuff, Like you know, people write

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Speaker 3: me emails, write emails, and we read all of them,

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Speaker 3: especially the nice ones or the encouraging ones, the mean ones.

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Speaker 3: I read and then I'm and then I am sad

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Speaker 3: for a few minutes. But I appreciate it. Nonetheless, I

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Speaker 3: want to hear what all the opinions are that are

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Speaker 3: out there. And I get emails that say, how about

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Speaker 3: a Trump RFK ticket RFK Junior ticket? And what I

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Speaker 3: what I don't really understand is first of all, first

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Speaker 3: of all, Trump and RFK don't see the vaccines exactly

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Speaker 3: the same way.

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Speaker 1: SOFK is actually more way more critical of the vaccines

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Speaker 1: than Trump is, which is fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Good point, right, I mean that's again statement of fact.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling people what's reality. And we all know it, right,

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Speaker 3: everyone can see that. So they don't they're not even

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Speaker 3: they're not aligned on that issue, and what what else

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Speaker 3: would they be aligned on? Look, here's what I see,

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Speaker 3: you know, I see RFK Junior gives Democrats an opportunity

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Speaker 3: patient who is too past his prime to put it mildly,

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Speaker 3: for the job Joe Biden is their option going into

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Speaker 2: And I think that they want that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you call it catharsis or that

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Speaker 3: that feeling of temporary honesty where they get to say, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, we really wish it would be RFK Junior.

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Speaker 3: against Trump. That's when push comes to shove. Right now

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Speaker 3: they can talk about it, and so I just think

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Speaker 3: safe space for Democrats to speak reality out loud for

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Speaker 3: a second on vaccines. But I don't see how this

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Speaker 3: at the opposition. Do you see that differently, Like, do

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Speaker 3: you think there could be a real insurgent campaign here

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Speaker 3: from within the Democrat Look, Bill O'Reilly, does we had

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Speaker 3: them on last week? You said maybe.

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Speaker 1: I think if there were a valid Democrat alternative who

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Speaker 1: beat Joe Biden. I really do in the primary, because

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Speaker 1: I think that's how weak of a candidate Biden is.

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Speaker 2: Has that has this ever happened before?

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Speaker 1: What usually happens is the insurgent campaign forces the leading

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Speaker 1: campaign to drop out, right, Like if you go to LBJ,

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Speaker 1: LBJ basically because of Vietnam. If I'm remembering my history correct,

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. LBJ dropped out in sixty eight because of

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Speaker 1: the incredible pressure that he felt, and so he decided

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Speaker 2: I think that's the way it would play.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, since the primary system has been in

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Speaker 3: I get it. It would be rare. But I'm saying I

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Speaker 3: right right. In sixty eight, LBJ came out in an

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Speaker 3: You go back to twenty sixteen and you had the

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Speaker 3: To be fair, it was a combination of the system

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Speaker 3: in that case, the super delegates. We all remember that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was the craziest thing.

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Speaker 3: There are people who just get to choose early on

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Speaker 3: often this twenty percent of the base of the party

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Speaker 3: think about alternatives. And I'm not saying they're not sincere

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Speaker 3: in it, but the machinery of the party is so powerful.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see how the machinery of the party

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Speaker 3: made buying the nominee in the first I mean, made

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Speaker 1: Look, I would say in twenty sixteen, remember everybody wanted

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Speaker 1: just proved how rigged the Democrat Party was, because the

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Speaker 1: in as hard as they could on Hillary. Now, the

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Speaker 1: difference I would say there Buck is that was an

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Speaker 1: the fact that Hillary was weak in sixteen makes a

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Speaker 1: little bit more sense. What I would compare this to

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Speaker 1: is go back to twenty twelve. Nobody in the Democrat

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, no, and and that nobody would

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Speaker 1: have even thought of it. And the fact I want

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Speaker 1: saying the COVID lockdowns were a sixteen trillion dollar mistake.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 4: I'd like either President Biden or President Trump explained the

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Speaker 4: lockdowns to us. That was a sixteen trillion dollar mistake.

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Speaker 4: We shifted four trillion dollars in wealth from the middle

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Speaker 4: due process, without chudge compensation. The White House both White

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Speaker 3: I think what he's saying is one hundred sent true

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Speaker 3: what about an RFK Trump ticket. To be clear, as

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Speaker 3: you heard there, he's going after Trump for lockdowns too.

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Speaker 3: He's not just blaming Biden. So we have to go

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Speaker 3: which is he's blaming really both what he would call

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Speaker 2: And I think that people.

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Speaker 3: There is an excitement at hearing the truth about this

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Speaker 3: let's just take a step back. Who is saying that

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Speaker 3: lockdowns across the board starting in twenty twenty were this disastrous.

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Speaker 3: Nobody is saying that they were disastrous from twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: them were completely insane, which they were, to be clear,

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Speaker 3: But he is going after both Trump and Biden on this,

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Speaker 3: obviously in a general I'm trying to say, is he

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Speaker 3: thinking there's a unity Trump RFK ticket.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: No, RFK would want to go up against Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: I don't know what percentage of our listeners would be

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what's going on with the Washington Post in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. They hate you, they want to

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Speaker 1: destroy you. So the idea that you would choose to

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Speaker 1: put an editorial in the Washington Post and that you

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Speaker 1: would sit down for an interview with CNN. If Sanudu

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Speaker 1: wanted to come on this show, we would have talked

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Speaker 1: to him and he would have had far more influence.

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Speaker 3: We I think we have an obligation here to have

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Speaker 3: on all of the Republican candidates and hear them out right.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what we're going to do. We've promised

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Speaker 3: from the beginning we're going to give voice to and

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Speaker 3: and you know, if RFK keeps going into.

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Speaker 1: Here, we had on what candidates period will have on Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: What we'll have on you know, we'll give voice to

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Speaker 3: the candidates so you can hear because ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're just two guys with two votes. All of you,

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Speaker 3: there are millions truly millions of you listening across the country,

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Speaker 3: and this is just a moment in time where we're

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Speaker 3: figuring out what the trajectory is going to be. And

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Speaker 3: and even like I've always said, I I'm like, we

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Speaker 3: have him on the show, and I don't not try

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Speaker 3: to fan boy like I just think Rand Paul is ideologically.

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Speaker 3: I agree with him so much the time. I think

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Speaker 3: he's so great. And I thought he was a really

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Speaker 3: good voice in the Republican primary, even though he had

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Speaker 3: no chance really of winning, right, but he was a

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Speaker 3: good voice to have. It was good to hear his

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Speaker 3: perspective on these things. I think he's a very very

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Speaker 3: strong senator. There are going to be people like that.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be candidates who are out there, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think even for example, Tim Scott. We're going to

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Speaker 3: talk more about Tim Scott in a few minutes. He

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Speaker 3: went on the View. Everybody we talked about it here

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Speaker 3: on the show with Senator Scott.

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Speaker 2: He went on the View.

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Speaker 3: We'll bring you some of the highlights of that, but

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Speaker 3: just having him talk about his his inspirational story and

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Speaker 3: love for America, I think that's a voice that's worth

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Speaker 3: people hearing at this time. I think that he brings

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Speaker 3: something to that conversation. I think there'll be other people

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Speaker 3: as well. And as long as everyone's staying focused on

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Speaker 3: the eventual mission of beating Joe Biden, and I have

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Speaker 3: to keep reminding everybody, whoever the candidate is, it is

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Speaker 3: going to be very hard. The Democrats outplay our machinery

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Speaker 3: in some of the key states. It is a fact.

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Speaker 3: Anyone who runs elections in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: will tell you the same thing that I'm just talking about.

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Speaker 3: The Democrat ability to get votes in boxes. However they're

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Speaker 3: doing it. So we have to all stay united as

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Speaker 3: a team and understanding what the eventual mission is here,

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Speaker 3: which is to beat a very I know it sounds crazy.

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Speaker 3: It will be a difficult uphill climb. That's just the

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Speaker 3: nature of our politics right now. But I do want

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Speaker 3: to take some calls cause I think we should take

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Speaker 3: some calls here. I don't know if anyone's got any

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Speaker 3: thoughts on some new new running or not. Honestly, if

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Speaker 3: we got some new Hampshire heights, I know we've got

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Speaker 3: people listening up in the Granite State.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: This is what all everybody who covers politics has to

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Speaker 3: throw you know, the show me state, the grantede state.

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Speaker 2: They got to throw that in there so people think

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Speaker 2: that they know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: But please do call him. But also, Mike Pence is running.

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Speaker 3: What do you guys think about that? I mean, I

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Speaker 3: really I'm putting that out there, honestly, what do you

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Speaker 3: think about Mike Pence? He's filed, he's running, he will

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Speaker 3: be in the mix, he will get more than one percent,

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Speaker 3: he will be on that debate stage. What do you

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Speaker 3: think his play is? How does that sit with all

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Speaker 3: of you? I'm curious most curious about my fellow gun

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Speaker 3: owners out there. How much money are you spending every

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Speaker 3: time you go to the range. Look, if you're like me,

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Speaker 3: the first time you get out there, first couple of magazines,

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Speaker 3: probably not right where you want.

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Speaker 2: To be because you get a little rusty. Right.

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Speaker 3: This is basic muscle memory and mechanics. It's a skill set.

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Speaker 3: So how can you hone your skills so you're getting

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Speaker 3: better and better without blowing through you know, dozens and

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Speaker 3: dozens of boxes of AMMO in the process. Well, my friends,

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Speaker 3: the mantus X system is a great adjunct something you

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Speaker 3: skills sharp at home or at the range. It's a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun to use, and it really does improve

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Speaker 3: your shooting. So if you're a marksman, a true one,

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Speaker 3: or one who wants to get there, the mantis X

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Speaker 3: you connect it to your smartphone and you download the

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Speaker 3: and once you get it going, you're going to be

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Speaker 3: so pleased with how much better your shooting gets. The

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Speaker 3: end result is you're a better, more prepared shooter every

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Speaker 3: time you go to the range. We've got certain certain

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Speaker 3: parts of the US military already using it. It's military

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Speaker 1: Get to know the guys outside the issues. Sunday Hang

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Speaker 1: with Clay and a new podcast.

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Speaker 5: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get

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Speaker 5: your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: All right everybody.

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Speaker 3: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right this moment.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us from all across the nation.

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Speaker 3: You will recall if you were listening, and if you weren't,

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Speaker 3: by the way, because you missed it, because maybe you

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Speaker 3: were doing something and you missed the live show on

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Speaker 3: one of our five hundred fantastic affiliates across the country.

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Speaker 3: The iHeart app is where I would recommend you go

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Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Download it. You can listen to Clay and Buck Show

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Speaker 2: hour by hour on demand anytime you like. We also

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Speaker 2: have other podcasts going in there.

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Speaker 3: Clay I had a forty minute sit down with doctor

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Speaker 3: j Batacharia. It was just, oh man, it was so good.

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Speaker 3: It was like a therapy session to go over. He

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Speaker 3: was one of the authors of the Great Barentine Declaration.

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Speaker 3: Just talking about how from a Stanford medical school, you know,

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Speaker 3: world class medical researcher, how everything they said was wrong

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Speaker 3: and it was lies and they knew it at different

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Speaker 3: times too. That was the part that I found. They

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Speaker 3: knew they were lying to people about masks, about vaccine

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Speaker 3: stopping spread anyway. So but that's in the Clan Buck feed.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying everyone's got to check it out. The

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Speaker 3: Tutor Dixon Show is in there too, so please subscribe

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Speaker 3: the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts now.

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Speaker 3: We also had Senator Tim Scott on I'm sorry, all

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Speaker 3: the weeks kind of crashed together in my mind.

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Speaker 2: I think it was last week we had the Senator

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Speaker 2: on Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Last Monday, Senator Scott was on the show That's What Matters,

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Speaker 3: and we asked him about this because Joy Pahar, of

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Speaker 3: all the people on the view, said, you know what,

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Speaker 3: he'd basically called into question whether Senator Scott knows really

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Speaker 3: what it's like for black men in America, which was

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Speaker 3: quite a thing to say. I think everyone picked up

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Speaker 3: on it. Let's can we just go back team and

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Speaker 3: remind everybody of his response on.

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Speaker 2: This show to what Joy Behar said.

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Speaker 6: But there's no doubt a white ladies dressing up in

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Speaker 6: black face giving him black man advice probably doesn't ring

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Speaker 6: true in anyone's mind, certainly not my own. But more importantly,

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Speaker 6: I find it offensive and disgusting and dangerous for a

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Speaker 6: very different reason. I'm used to having the less attacked

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Speaker 6: me because of the truth of my life. This proves

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Speaker 6: their lives. It is literally the dumbest, most offensive thing

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Speaker 6: I've ever witnessed on TV to hear these millionaire TV

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Speaker 6: personalities telling me how to live my life as a

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Speaker 6: black man, but more importantly suggesting to every child, stay

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Speaker 6: in your place, follow my lead, for you too will

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Speaker 6: reap the same harvest of Tim Scott or Clarence Thomas

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Speaker 6: or any other conservative who dares dares to think for themselves.

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Speaker 3: So that was last Tuesday. We were off because of

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Speaker 3: a moral day. It was last Tuesday. Who was on

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Speaker 3: the show?

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Speaker 2: Uh play?

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Speaker 3: I thought that was strong but this and we're so

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Speaker 3: hope we're glad that he got to say it here

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Speaker 3: on this platform to all of you across the country.

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Speaker 3: The View, I don't know, maybe the View got called

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Speaker 3: out so much by their own audience on this one,

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Speaker 3: or something happened, or they just realized it was it

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Speaker 3: was an opportunity for ratings.

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Speaker 2: The View invited senators. Why don't they invite Clay and

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Speaker 2: Buck on.

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Speaker 3: That would be a show, that would be a It'd

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Speaker 3: be a show if Liz Chady came on here to

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Speaker 3: talk to us. It would be a show if they

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Speaker 3: had us on the View. I can tell you that,

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Speaker 3: but here is Senator Tim Scott. Here is Senator Tim

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Speaker 3: Scott sitting down on the view. We wanted you to

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Speaker 3: hear this. Clay and I agree. This is not a

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Speaker 3: home run. This is a grand slam moment for him

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Speaker 3: play it.

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Speaker 7: One of the things that I think about, and one

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Speaker 7: of the reasons why I'm on the show, is because

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Speaker 7: of the comments that were made frankly on the show

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Speaker 7: that the only way for a young African American kid

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Speaker 7: to be successful in this country is to be the

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Speaker 7: exception and not the role. That is a dangerous, offensive,

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Speaker 7: disgusting message to send to our young people today, that

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Speaker 7: the only way to succeed is by being the I

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Speaker 7: will tell you that if my life is the exception,

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine.

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Speaker 2: I can't. But it's not.

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Speaker 4: Actually here's here's fourteen years.

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Speaker 7: Yes. So the fact of the matter is we've had

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Speaker 7: an African American president, African American vice president, We've had

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Speaker 7: two African Americans to be Secretaries of the State.

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Speaker 2: And he keeps going. It's phenomenal. We shared this clip.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be up on clayanbuck dot com if

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Speaker 1: you want to go listen to it. So this is phenomenal, right,

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Speaker 1: because the message that Tim Scott is sharing is that

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Speaker 1: the progress the country has made is massive as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to race relations and also to opportunity in general.

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Speaker 1: And one of the craziest things that has happened, and

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Speaker 1: this is a big story, is in the wake of

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama's two terms as president two thousand and eight

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, race relations have collapsed in the last decade

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Speaker 1: or so. A lot of different theories about why that

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Speaker 1: might be. I'm sure many of you out there listening

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Speaker 1: have theories. God is Buck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, I was gonna say, I don't think race relations

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Speaker 3: have collapsed. I think the media pretends that race relations

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Speaker 3: have collapsed, you know what I mean. It's a difference thing.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm getting. Yes, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, if you look at the data, the

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Speaker 1: media has so negatively I think impacted our perceptions of

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Speaker 1: race relations that many people do believe. Now, for instance,

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Speaker 1: I believe it's a Gallup poll that came out we

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Speaker 1: talked about on the show around the year two thousand,

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Speaker 1: something like seventy some odd percent of people thought race

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Speaker 1: relations in the country were generally good and about twenty

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Speaker 1: some odd percent said race relations were bad. This is

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Speaker 1: around two thousand. This is twenty three years ago. Now

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Speaker 1: over half of Americans believe race relations in this country

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Speaker 1: are bad. I think the media is a big part

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Speaker 1: of that, and I also think buck My theory here

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Speaker 1: for what happened was you go back and look at

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Obama. It is America is such

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Speaker 1: an amazing country that even I, a mixed race kid

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Speaker 1: from Hawaii, can get elected president. That was the message

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Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight Obama.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: By twoenty twelve, there was more of a racial pitch

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Speaker 1: to Obama's campaigning. By twenty sixteen, Democrats were all in

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Speaker 1: on identity politics. So the lesson they took from Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama's election was the only reason Obama won was because

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Speaker 1: he was black, and therefore we must have identity politics.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's Hillary going out there and saying I'm with her, right,

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Speaker 1: you're a woman, you have to support me because you're

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Speaker 1: a woman. And then by twenty twenty, Joe Biden, super

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Speaker 1: old white guy, is arguing, hey, if you're not with me,

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Speaker 1: you ain't black, that the Republicans will put you back

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Speaker 1: in chains. Kamala Harris's entire choice was based on her

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Speaker 1: being a black female, and they even made an explicit

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Speaker 1: buck Biden promised to put a black woman on the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, something we've never seen before, based entirely on

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Speaker 1: identity politics.

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Speaker 3: I would say that, first of all, it's just, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of a theme today people who say things

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Speaker 3: that we all know to be true. It you feel it,

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Speaker 3: it inspires you it. There's sort of a calm that

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Speaker 3: comes over you go, yes, that's right. And what Senator

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Speaker 3: Scott said, they're on the view about the tremendous progress

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Speaker 3: that the left effectively denies for Black Americans and on

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Speaker 3: all Americans toward a meritocracy. In fact, what we have

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Speaker 3: now is the left openly going against meritocracy. Right, the

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Speaker 3: left actually wants there to be a spoil system based

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Speaker 3: on race, gender, but it's a spoil system against particularly

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Speaker 3: white males. That's actually the system that the Demo and Asians.

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Speaker 3: I would note, that's what they want for affirmative action

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Speaker 3: in college, that's what they want for hiring, and that

695
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Speaker 3: is the reality of America today. But put that aside

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Speaker 3: for a moment. He's saying something that is true. Do

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Speaker 3: I think that this is going through This goes back

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Speaker 3: to our earlier discussion are we going to see a

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Speaker 3: major change in the black vote in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Let's just assume for a second, even Tim Scott was

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Speaker 3: the nominee, or he's just able to have powerful messaging

702
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Speaker 3: in the GOP all along, history would tell you no,

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Speaker 3: that it's not going to happen at all. That said,

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Speaker 3: there may be people of all you know, of different races,

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Speaker 3: black voters, white voters, who just from hearing from a

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Speaker 3: man like Tim Scott about the truth of America today,

707
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: the Democrat moral blackmailing, They engage in the sort of

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Speaker 3: moral demagoguery of if you don't vote Democrat, you're a racist.

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Speaker 2: That may be less effective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's the only way that I could see

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Speaker 3: it from an electoral perspective, because the more people see this,

712
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: the more they realize what are they really talking about?

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00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: What are they really saying when they're claiming that this

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Speaker 3: country is fundamentally racist and they've expanded the definition of

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Speaker 3: white supremacy to include anything in society that is unequal,

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Speaker 3: What are they talking about? Basically, if their identity politics

717
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: pitch is even a little bit less effective. That could have,

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Speaker 3: That could have some effect. I don't see, though, a

719
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Speaker 3: substantial change in I shouldnt even say I don't see.

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Speaker 2: There's no basis historically for it. But it might change

721
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Speaker 2: this time around, the black vote shifting more toward Republicans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be great, But I think it's an

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Speaker 1: intriguing debate.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: So, first of all, Tim Scott, a lot of what

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Speaker 1: he says is similar to what Obama said in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and the view loved Obama in two

728
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and they try to call out Tim Scott.

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Speaker 1: But here's the here's sort of the existential issue at play.

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Speaker 1: And I don't claim to know the answer, but everybody

731
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Speaker 1: out there can think about this. How do you destroy

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Speaker 1: identity politics?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Identity politics is a toxic cancer, in my opinion, in

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Speaker 1: the American body politic, and it is entirely the foundation

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party right now.

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Speaker 3: So I actually think that it's a function in part Clay,

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Speaker 3: I think it has to do with laws. I think

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Speaker 3: you have to have. I think the Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 3: that's coming in a matter of weeks here, which we

741
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Speaker 3: haven't really talked about, will be a substantial step in

742
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Speaker 3: the right direction, because what we have now is a

743
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Speaker 3: system of and this is from a Supreme Court decision.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was a Ldo or Roberts.

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: One of them said, the racial spoil system that affirmative

746
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Speaker 3: action has created, that has trickled down not just to

747
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Speaker 3: college admissions, but also in hiring for corporations across America,

748
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Speaker 3: in government grants that are minority specific. You have to

749
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Speaker 3: eliminate these things as a matter of law or else.

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Speaker 3: Everything else we talk about just feels like rhetoric because

751
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: the system is in place to perpetuate the identity politics

752
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Speaker 3: system that only benefits Democrats because it is antithetical to

753
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Speaker 3: Republican and conservative philosophy, which is, we treat every individual

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Speaker 3: as an individual created in God's image, with the same rights, dignity,

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Speaker 3: and worth as everybody else. No one's more, no one's less.

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Speaker 3: The law cannot treat them differently. They don't view it

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think implicit in the Senator Tim Scott

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Haley candidacy, ironically, given that both are coming

760
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Speaker 1: from South Carolina, is that they reject identity politics by

761
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: exploding it. This would be their argument on some level.

762
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they would make it explicitly, but

763
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Speaker 1: it's hard to argue that Republicans are the party of

764
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Speaker 1: white supremacy if again, this would be part of the

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Speaker 1: premise of their candidacy, if Tim Scott or Nicky Haley

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Speaker 1: is on that ticket. Now, the challenge to me is

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Speaker 1: that this is the essence of the race. Do Tim

768
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Speaker 1: Scott or Nicky Haley, given that they're from South Carolina

769
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Speaker 1: change the electoral calculus? I'm not sure that the VP does.

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Speaker 1: If Tim Scott buck were from Arizona or Georgia or Pennsylvania,

771
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Speaker 1: I would like the dude has to be the VP nominee, right,

772
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: same thing for Nicky Haley on some level, because they

773
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Speaker 1: can put you over the edge and maybe in those states,

774
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Speaker 1: but you're gonna win South Carolina by twenty.

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Speaker 3: But the most historically, the most consistent voting pattern you

776
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Speaker 3: can really find for any if you're looking at race, age, demographic,

777
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: gonna list the black vote for the Democrats stretch. I mean,

778
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: does anyone want to guess what percentage of the black

779
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Speaker 3: vote went for a Gore in two thousand versus Bush ninety? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a ninety ten proposition and has been for

781
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: over twenty I mean longer than that. I'm just going

782
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Speaker 3: back to two thousand. But we have not found a

783
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: way to break that. We have not found a way

784
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: to change that dynamic. And I think it's hard as well,

785
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: because the Democrats realize that that just mean that's like

786
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: them taking Texas and making it blue. Right, then it's

787
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: game over. If the if the black.

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Speaker 1: Voters seventy thirty, their their entire campaign, their entire Identity

789
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Speaker 1: Politics coalition disappear.

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Speaker 2: Eighty twenty, they're done.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, historically this has been absolutely impossible,

792
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Speaker 3: and so to think that it will change this time

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Speaker 3: around is going against But it's kind of we got

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Speaker 3: some we should get some of the vip emails. Then

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Speaker 3: everyone's yelling at me. They're saying, so what if a

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Speaker 3: primary challenge has never worked in history? Biden is the

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Speaker 3: worst ever. I'm like, okay, guys, I'm just telling you

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Speaker 3: historical examples. I mean, I don't no one can predict

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 2: I keep saying this. I don't think I can. No

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Speaker 2: one can.

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Speaker 3: But if you look historically, it's been fifty years and

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Speaker 3: no incumbent president has ever lost a primary challenge.

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Speaker 1: It it would work, he would not lose buck, he

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Speaker 1: I think that's what would happen. But man, this is

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Speaker 1: uh Tim Scott going into the lions Den. Yeah and

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Speaker 1: basically rising up and dunking on the View. That clip

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Speaker 2: So let's go to some of these calls.

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00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: Chris and Saint Louis is wayhing in on a major

874
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: controversy associated with you. The seventy five dollars per shot

875
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: of tequila order Chris in Saint Louis, what you got

876
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: for us?

877
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 6: Jesse Kelly rolls straight to the point, clay Buck, you

878
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: guys are cheap.

879
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: Seventy five dollars is all about.

880
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: The experience of drinking with Jesse Kelly, not about what

881
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: the shot cast like.

882
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: I just want to know how Jesse Kelly had a

883
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: had a I didn't know he had a little brother

884
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: or a first cousin who could call into the show.

885
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: But but but Chris, I gotta tell you we had

886
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: a great We had a great night that night.

887
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: And I can tell you also.

888
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: That that you know it was it was the the

889
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: best tequila that you could get. And and can I

890
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: say our Charlie by you know, because she worked, Yes,

891
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: Charlie Arnold was there as well, so there is in

892
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: fact a eyewitnessed all that she is now with OutKick.

893
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: It was a it was a recruiting mission.

894
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: So maybe Jesse just wanted to get the expensive tequila

895
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: so that, you know, play could look like a big

896
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: man and then OutKick would get a great higher, which

897
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: they did end up getting. Thank you for calling in, Chris,

898
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: sat in Saint Louis. You got a question for Jesse.

899
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: The way you're promoting, promoting the book and hustling, what

900
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 4: do you think your chances are making the New York

901
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: Times bestseller list?

902
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 8: Uh, well, that's funny you bring that up. The New

903
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 8: York Times Bestseller list is obviously a thing you want

904
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 8: because it's bragging rights, essentially, and everyone knows how much

905
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 8: I love to brag. It's one of my favorite things

906
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 8: to do is talk about myself and brag about myself.

907
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: That said, it's.

908
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 8: Also well known that if you're someone on the right

909
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 8: writing a book, you really have to sell so many

910
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 8: that they have no choice that they look stupid if

911
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 8: they keep you off the list.

912
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: So am I going to make the list? I don't know.

913
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 8: I guess right now it's killing it. I guess we'll

914
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 8: find out if you want to get it or information

915
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 8: on the book tour, or if you want to sign

916
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 8: copy and you want to try to stick it to

917
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 8: the New York Times Jesse kellybook dot com. I should

918
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 8: have gave that out earlier. That's where people go for it.

919
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 8: So the answer to that question is, I don't know, Seth.

920
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: I hope Nope.

921
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 8: Right, If I don't, It's not like I'm going to

922
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 8: cry myself to sleep. But that's always a goal. I

923
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 8: wanted to sell as many as I can.

924
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking to what Jesse has done and is referencing here,

925
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: if you write a book that is not super left wing,

926
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there who believe the

927
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: New York Times Bestseller List actually reflects the most purchased books.

928
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: In any given week.

929
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't have a collection of super left wing bookstores

930
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: that they then create an algorithm with. And this I

931
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: didn't know this until I wrote my last book.

932
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: Jesse.

933
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: I was I think number five or six overall for

934
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: most sold copies in twenty eighteen, and I didn't make

935
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: the top twenty New York Times bestseller list.

936
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 3: And you know why they don't include Amazon in the sales.

937
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's correct. So so start with the place

938
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: where people buy the most books by far, if you're

939
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: buying physical books, is Amazon. They don't include that in

940
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: the list, and they do it based on, you know,

941
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: a collection of bookstores owned by blue haired cat ladies

942
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: who some of them, by the way, listen to our

943
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: show and a right wing and we love them. But

944
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 3: these are the left wing variety. So Jesse that road.

945
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: It's a road challenge, of course, and that's kind of

946
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: the thing. Can you sell it would be nice more

947
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: than bragging rights, more than anything else. It would be

948
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 3: nice to stick it to them like that, to sell

949
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: so many that just out of shame, out of the

950
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 3: for the credibility of the list.

951
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: They would have to put it on the list. So

952
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 8: of course you want that. Anyone with any ambition wants that.

953
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 8: Whether that'll happen or not, I don't know. Look, I

954
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 8: want people to read it and learn from it. That's

955
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 8: what I want.

956
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: The other thing that's important is Buck and Jesse and

957
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: everybody out there listening. A lot of bookstores that are

958
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: physical in nature put the New York Times bestsellers in

959
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: the front of a store, so people might not know

960
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: who you are. And if you're on that list. Suddenly,

961
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: when you walk into a bookstore, your book is there,

962
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: easy accessed, easy to see. Somebody might pick it up

963
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: that otherwise wouldn't. That's the other reason it has a

964
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: lot of impact.

965
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: Charles, Yeah, that's one of the Wait, wait, hold on second,

966
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: Jesse Als in Miami wants to weigh in with you.

967
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: Charles, what do you have for Jesse?

968
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 9: Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon, Jesse. Sorry about your hairline there.

969
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 9: You know, I know you're talking. You're still growing growing

970
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 9: out of your hair. But anyway, I just wanted to

971
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 9: get your thoughts. Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic. I'm worried

972
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 9: about Texas with all these illegals there, and I think

973
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 9: if electoral college wise goes, if Texas goes, we're done.

974
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 9: And if you look at the county map of Lower Texas,

975
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 9: a lot of that has already changed blue. And I

976
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 9: just wanted to get your feedback.

977
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 8: Commen, No, it's a it's a very good question. Let

978
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 8: me ease your fears though. Look, it's okay to be

979
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 8: worried about Texas, because you're right. Electorally, if we lose

980
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 8: the state of Texas, we're finished. But Texas is going

981
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 8: to be just fine. And let me explain why we

982
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 8: worry about people moving from blue states to red states

983
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 8: because we say, I don't bring your politics with you.

984
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 8: But the truth is, at least here in Texas, and

985
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 8: I know this from data from friend I have within

986
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 8: the state, so this is not me guessing.

987
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: I know this.

988
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 8: Over sixty percent of the people who move from blue

989
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 8: states to red states and come to Texas are voting Republican.

990
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 8: So yes, are we getting Democrats in that group. Yes,

991
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 8: But the truth is humans are migrating as human beings

992
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 8: always have, so they can live under their values. They

993
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 8: want to live around people who share their values. When

994
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 8: people leave from blue to red. I know it's common

995
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 8: to complain about it when you're one of the people

996
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 8: who's already there, But the truth is it's making your

997
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 8: red state stronger. It is, and I understand that the

998
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 8: concern because what happens is you get these idiot GOP

999
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 8: governors who say, oh, bring your big business there, and

1000
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 8: the business comes with ten thousand employees, and those are Democrats.

1001
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 8: So that's generally a bad idea. But when people migrate

1002
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 8: on their own, when people move on their own, it

1003
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 8: actually helps your state and if you're in a red

1004
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 8: state and want to keep it that way.

1005
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: You should encourage it.

1006
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: Here's some data, Jesse, to back up what you're saying.

1007
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: In Florida, where I live, they had a Democrat advantage

1008
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: in registration, which is amazing to think about. In twenty

1009
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: eighteen when that election happened, which was a razor razor

1010
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 3: thin governor's election, Democrats had a two hundred and fifty

1011
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 3: thousand registered voter advantage Republicans as of this year. As

1012
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: of this I think it was certainly the first quarter

1013
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: of this year had about a half a million advantage.

1014
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: So this switch, I think it might be a three

1015
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: or four hundred thousand now something like that. The switch

1016
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 3: is massive, and so the inflow of Florida has been

1017
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: overwhelmingly Republican. There's also some registration efforts in the state

1018
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: for people that were already here that are part of that,

1019
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: but a lot of it is red state. People living

1020
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: in blue states say, how about trying a red state?

1021
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 6: Now?

1022
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, just Ania state concern Jesse and Texas, you and Florida,

1023
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: me and Tennessee.

1024
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: I think it's made it way redder everywhere. Jesse.

1025
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: I bet that's what you're seeing. You kind of hinted

1026
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: at that with the data from ten As well.

1027
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it's everywhere. We do not see a massive

1028
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 8: influx of democrats here. And in fact, this is why

1029
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 8: I talk about anti communism. This is why these red

1030
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 8: states like Tennessee and Florida. Well, Florida has been better

1031
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 8: about this, Texas, Texas has sucked at this. They should

1032
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 8: be passing laws, these anti communist laws, just to drive

1033
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 8: the communists crazy. And this is what I mean. You

1034
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 8: pass a law like let's say you pass a law

1035
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 8: they don't like, an abortion restriction law. People will argue

1036
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 8: back and forth about abortion. But if you pass one

1037
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 8: of these laws, you will find the commedies you don't

1038
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 8: want in your state will self deport they will. When

1039
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 8: you start overwhelming them with anti communism, the communists will

1040
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 8: flee and make your state, make your state.

1041
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: Redder as they leave. We are not near.

1042
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 8: Aggressive enough with these scum, and we need to be

1043
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 8: more aggressive.

1044
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800
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