1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Caitlin's Entertainment Report, and he's on the Bread Show. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Fiona Harvey, the Scottish woman who came forward as the 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: real Martha portrayed and Baby Reindeer, has filed a one 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy million dollar defamation suit against Netflix. So 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: the lawsuit begins with the tag from the show quote 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: this is a true story, and goes on to say 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: that the on screen statement is quote the biggest lie 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: in TV history. So the complaint continues it is a 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: lie told by Netflix and the show's creator, Richard Gadd, 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: out of greed and lust for fame, and that he 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: and the streaming platform sought to viciously destroy her life. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: It further states that Fiona is an innocent woman who 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: has been defamed at a magnitude and scale without precedent. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: The most interesting part of this whole thing to me, though, 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: is that Richard, who based the hit show on his 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: own experiences with being stalked, is not being sued to 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: my understanding, So she's just suing Netflix, which makes me 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: feel like there's some legal thing that she can't do 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: by suing him. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Confused, because so Martha, I watched Baby Reindeer, Martha is 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: the craziest portrayed. Is a crazy woman, yes, and obsessive 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: and all these other things, but her real name is Fiona. Yes, 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: So my thing is, first of all, I'm not an attorney. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: I did take two classes at law school, so I 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: basically have an attorney. But is he not allowed? Then 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: he didn't use your real name, so unless she had 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: come out and said that it was her, I don't 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: know that anybody would know that it was her. 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: So because he played himself, the internet found her, so 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: she didn't. She says she didn't want to come forward, 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: but people ended up figuring out who she was, and 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: then she says she was essentially forced to come forward 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: because she was getting death threats and stuff. So I 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: don't know if she'll have a legal case in terms 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: of suing him. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Going to I'll say, isn't he is allowed like artistic? 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Like can't I tell my own story and change people? 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. Again, I don't know the law 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: on this, but yeah, I know he's allowed to give 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: his interpretation artistically, and that's why he's not being sued 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: because like he can, he can tell his own story 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like he went out and said, Hey, 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: the Fiona, he did change your name, right, Yeah? 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean, it'll be interesting to see what happens 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: for sure, But if it's me, I don't care. If 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: they found me, I'm like, that wasn't me because I'm on. 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: The last episode. 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: I haven't finished it yet, but. 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm not saying I don't know that guy, right, 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: it is not me. 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: Nine months after Elon Musk cooked up a remote Amazon 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: tribe to the Internet, there's been some major issues, as 53 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: you could expect, mainly a porn addiction overtaking the community's 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: younger men. So the Marubo tribes elders have come forward 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: to admit that while the Tesla founders starlink service was 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: initially a huge celebration for them, it's all turned into 57 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: a big mess because some of the tribesmen are now 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: displaying quote, aggressive sexual behavior. One tribesman named Alfredo Marubo 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: spoke to The New York Times saying that some men 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: are even sharing explicit videos in group chats, and he's 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: concerned they're gonna want to mimic the graphic content they're 62 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: seeing on screen, so they're turning into America. By the way, 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: it's not just porn causing worry, though. Other issues ranged 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: from kids playing violent shooter games to chatting with strangers 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: online and getting addicted to their phones for hours. According 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: to another tribesman, they're also becoming lazy. Oh my god, 67 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: this is such an interesting experiment because that's like what 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: happened over here so long ago. Despite the challenges, though, 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: the internet has given them some good things, like allowing 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: them to reach out for help and emergencies, as well 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: as educational resources, connecting them to family and seeing other places. 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: So this is why we can't have nice things, you guys. 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: We can't have nice things because this is what happened. 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: And now you got tribesmen going, hey, how do I 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: get one of those dishwashers? Right, somebody gets stuck. Someone's 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: got to get stuck. 77 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: No. I love that they're texting their friends and group 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: chats like it's literally just right. 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: Right Welcome to America and real quick and Taylor Swift's 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: ariostour has brought out fans, celebs, and now a go, 81 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: most possibly after a shadowy figure appeared to stand at 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: the top of a huge stadium to watch her show, 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: so fans got video of the unexpected guests in the 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: middle of her song Delicate while she was performing in Madrid, 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: and as you can see and we can post it, 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: there's this really creepy thing which looks. 87 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: Like a human standing and swing at the very top alone, 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: which is a restricted area by the way. Now it 89 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: could just be a human who got access to that, 90 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: but only time will tell if that shadowy figure will 91 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: make a return to the uq uk where she's headed next. 92 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: But it does look very creepy. Did you see it, Jason, Yeah, 93 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: it looks ominous. Dominus. 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's like dark and it's very lit up, 95 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: so yeah, yeah, Bobby Valentino. Yeah, So if you want 96 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: to catch up on anything you missed from our show, 97 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: The Fred Show, obviously you can go a couple places. 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: You could go to our free iHeartRadio app. You could 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: go to Fredshow Radio dot com as well as Fredshaw 100 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: Radio on Instagram and the Fred Show. 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: TikTok is that something when anybody does or in this room, 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: does anyone share adult content with Like if I see 103 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: if I see a funny meme or like a funny 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: article or a video or TikTok that I think someone 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: might laugh at, you know, I might I might forward 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: that along, But never in my life have I watched 107 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: something salacious of adult content, of personal intimate contact content 108 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: and been like, my boy would love this, you know, 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: like or I really enjoyed this one, Like let me 110 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: like this. The old joke about back in the day, 111 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: way back in the day before all of our time, 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: when this sort of content was on on VHS tape, 113 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: which is you know, like a tape, which I probably 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: have to explain to a lot of people listening what 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: that is. Like you actually had, you know, movies on 116 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: a tape, and you put the tape in the tape 117 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: player and you hit play, and sometimes you had to 118 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: hit rewind to get it to the beginning of the tape, 119 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: so you could start from the beginning, because if you 120 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: took the tape out in the middle and you put 121 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: it in and put play, then it would just start 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: right there. And the old running joke was, if you 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: ever borrow in film from your buddies, make sure that 124 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: you hit rewind first, otherwise you're going to know the 125 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: exact spot. 126 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yes, so that was the old running joke 127 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 5: about that. 128 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: But like I can't imagine, like I'm just sitting at work, 129 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: one day and my buddy Trevor sends me a link 130 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: to like, you know, mom, stepmom or what hey. 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: It's for them, so they're probably like, oh man, did 132 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: you know you could do this? Also, I do have 133 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: people in my life who still think it's funny to 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: send that dude with the huge long you know, you 135 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: click on something and it'll be like you know, and 136 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: then it's that guy. 137 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: God rest his soul. 138 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: I think he passed away. But yeah, so stuff like 139 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: that probably. 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just I'm not aware of anybody like, 141 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how I would react to that. If 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there one day and like Rufio sends me 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: a link to like you got to see this one? 144 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: I really like that. 145 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: It's very personal. 146 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm good right now.