1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bold reverence and occasionally random the Sunday hang with playing podcast. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: It starts now. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Be writing a book. You just got to go around 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: on your book tour. I'm writing a book. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: So that's what you're doing all Labor Day weekend? 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, pretty much. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: You don't have a single fun thing plan for the 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: entire long weekend. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Reading the books for research to write the book is 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: somewhat enjoyable. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't Harry have anything fun playing? 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: She's gonna, Yeah, she's gonna go out with the girls. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Good that she played golf last night. She's got a 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: great time. I'm going to go into full Hobbit in 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: his little dead mode and be writing until my little 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: fingers get numb. And that is the plan. But it's coming, 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: it's coming along, it's coming along. And yeah, I hope 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: people have more fun things planned than that. I'm sure 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: I'll eat some good food at some point, do some 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: other some other good things. 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: I can't believe the summer is out of close now. 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: You would think that. I don't know. It went by 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: very very quickly. 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: So I'm happy that people have a day off to contemplate. 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: It's interesting we could think of the history of Labor 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Day another time. Perhaps in the meantime, mister Clay, Actually, 27 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: why don't you tell everybody we've got going on. It's 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: third hour before holiday weekend. We're not No, there's not 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: any big break. All the journals, everybody they've they're already 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: on the way to. 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: The vineyard or whatever. 32 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're heading to the Jersey shore right now. 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: They don't care. 34 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: It's a good time to break news if you have 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: any negative news out there that you just want to 36 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: dump in. There's tons of college football games going on. 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Everybody's bailing. I've been on the road for the last 38 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: month so with the book and everything else, and so 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be home. I'm going to go 40 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: to the Virginia Tennessee game in Nashville tomorrow. I'm going 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: to go to a high school football game tonight. Basically 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: the next decade of my life, I'm going to be 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: going to high school football games now, because my boys 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: are getting to those ages where they're playing high school 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: foot and everything else. 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: You know, I played a lot of different sports. You 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: and I actually played similar sports. 48 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: Gromen. 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: You played soccer, I played soccer. Were you a tennis guy? 50 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: I was really into tennis. 51 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Whenever on a team, I played baseball, I played basketball. 52 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: I played, but by high school I was a soccer player. 53 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: I played basketball too until my dream of being able 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: to dunk easily. One day that came crashing down in 55 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: about the eighth grade, when I realized that despite all 56 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: the calf raises, I could do. 57 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 3: You know, all the exercises for the guest. 58 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: String hues, the Jimmy remember Jimmy on Seinfeld who had 59 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: like the jumping shoes. Remember remember those shoes that they 60 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: had that were pumps that you used to see. E. 61 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: D Brown like won the slam Dunk contest with the 62 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Reebok pumps. That's right. 63 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: The slam Dunk Contest was a cultural phenomenon for a while. 64 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: I remember this back in the day, Michael Jordan's Spud Webb. 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: I remember him. He was I think five eight, and 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: he won it one year, that's right. So I remember, 67 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm taller than five eight, I'm 68 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: in the eighth grade or ninth grade, like, maybe I 69 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: can dunk. 70 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: It turned out no, no, I was. 71 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: I had to be pleased with just just hitting the 72 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: bottom of the net with my hand. That was as 73 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: close as I got, which no one's impressed. 74 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: What percentage of men do you think can dunk a basketball? 75 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: Oh? 76 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: Man, Well, depends on what age. 77 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like peak age, right, like twenty three or 78 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: twenty four, right, like when you are before you have 79 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: gone off the deep end of not being super athletic. 80 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Like if you can't dunk when you're twenty three or 81 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: twenty four, you probably are never going to be able 82 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: to dunk a basketball. So whatever like peak athletic age 83 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: you want to point. 84 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: We looked up earlier in the week. I think it's 85 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: three percent of men or six foot two or above. Yes, 86 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: so a six foot three or six foot four guy 87 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I think is in pretty good you know, at the 88 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: pretty decent likelihood that they would be able to, but 89 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: not all of them would be able to. Very few 90 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: people below that height, I would argue, are going to 91 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: be able to dunk easily. So I would think it's 92 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: probably one percent. I think one p Zach number that 93 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: I was going to go with. One percent of Americans 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: or you know, men in general probably around the world 95 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: can dunk a basketball. Yeah, but it's maybe the rarest 96 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: athletic trait that everybody would aspire to and almost no 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: one can do. 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you play golf, you could hit a 99 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: hole in one. Even if you're a really bad golfer, 100 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: you can go out and hit a bunch of three pointers. 101 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: I think dunking a basketball is the rarest athletic trait 102 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: that everybody would love to be able to do, and 103 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: almost no one can to this day. 104 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: I have never I have never dunked, although if you didn't, 105 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: I think there's a video of Tom Segura, who's a 106 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: very very talented comedian. 107 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: He was on Joe Rogan recently and. 108 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: He he he's made jokes about this too. But I 109 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: somehow in my Twitter feed, I think it was I 110 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: saw this video he maybe a year ago on a bet, 111 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: tried to dunk and manage to like snap his pateller 112 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: tendon and also break his arm at the same time. 113 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: I mean it was. 114 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: Really he really hurt himself. So this is way saying 115 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: for all of us weekend warriors out there. If you're 116 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: gonna be playing golf, I don't think we have to 117 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: worry too much about you. But if you're gonna be 118 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: playing a little pick up basketball, if you haven't jumped 119 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: and you haven't stretched your hammis your hamstrings for uh, you. 120 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: Know, a year or two. 121 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Go slow out there, Kevin Hart, did you see speaking 122 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: of comedians, you see he put himself in a wheelchair 123 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: trying to win a race against a former NFL player, 124 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: like a forty yard dash, and I was gonna say, 125 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm dunked. But it's been off a trampoline. Back in 126 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: the day, sometimes you would put a trance probably very dangerous, 127 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: but you would put a trampoline underneath a you know, 128 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: like the big trampolines directly underneath a basketball hoop, and 129 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you could then try to dunk on each other those 130 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: old school Now they have the nets that surround the trampolines. 131 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: You lived in New York, did you ever get on 132 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: one of those like trampolines back in the day, like, 133 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: like in the eighties and the early nineties, it was 134 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: a big deal to have a trampoline in your backyard. 135 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Oh? 136 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. 137 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: I knew people, and I knew people who definitely lost 138 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: a front teeth, a front tooth or or two from 139 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: getting a little. 140 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Too I mean, you would just get bounced off the 141 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: trampoline all the time. People would fall through the springs. 142 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: Now they have. They put the netting around it, but 143 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: they used to put them underneath basketball rims, and so 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: you could bounce. That's how you would dunk. And so 145 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: that's the only experience that I've ever gotten to have 146 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: hanging on a basketball. 147 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: And I was gonna ask you, though this was a 148 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: long enf of saying, I've never played a down of football. 149 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: That's the one sport that I've really never I tried 150 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: even to throw around to la cross ball a little 151 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: bit back in the day. I'm from the Northeast, very common, 152 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: but I was not good. But I've never tried at football. 153 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: Do your sons or is there just one son so 154 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: far plays football? 155 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: Is that right? 156 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: Well, I've got one in one in flag football, so 157 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I think that kind of counts. But it's, you know, 158 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: young kids. We didn't allow him to play until sixth 159 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: grade tackle football. 160 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: But does every kid does every sixth grader? I'm just 161 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: I ask this, honestly. Do they all start out wanting 162 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: to be the quarterback and then over time they're like, oh, 163 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: I'll be a tight end or a wide receiver, you 164 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I feel like more so than 165 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: any other sport, unless maybe I guess you're a pitcher. 166 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: That's a very specific thing. 167 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: But you know, if you get into it and you 168 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: want to be a quarterback, that's like a very specific thing. 169 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: And if you can't be the quarterback on the team, 170 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: do you want to be. 171 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: Like a d end or whatever? 172 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: I wonder. So I think one size dictates very often 173 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: where you get placed early on. So my twelve year 174 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: old is a wide receiver and a cornerback in his 175 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: seventh grade football. My eight year old is and it's 176 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: flag football, so everybody goes out and everybody can catch, 177 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: but more of a wide receiver too, And they I think, 178 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: at least in their experience, they want to play wide 179 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: receiver more than they want to play any other position. 180 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Maybe running back a little bit as well. But it 181 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: is uh, I'll tell you Buck, Like I don't know, 182 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: your high school didn't have a high school football team 183 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: right in New York, which is not uncommon. 184 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh, my high school did not even have a football team. 185 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: That's not uncommon in New York City at all. 186 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: A lot of schools don't have a football team. My 187 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: high school did not either. It was an academic high school, 188 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: which is very rare in the South. Like we were 189 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the only public high school I think in the whole 190 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: city of Nashville. It didn't have a team, so I 191 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: didn't spend a lot of time going to high school 192 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: football games. And now my boys are getting into that age. 193 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: It's really pretty incredible. In the South, high school football 194 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: on a Friday night is a monster deal, and I 195 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: know all over the country it's a big deal. I 196 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: just never experienced it. 197 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: Well. 198 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: I love that show. I liked the movie. Although the 199 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: movie was a little grim to be honest, Theilights Friday 200 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: Lights it was a little there was like nothing was 201 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: allowed to be funny. There was no levity in the 202 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: whole movie, but it was well executed. I think it's 203 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: a Peter Berg movie, who also did the Lone Survivor movie, 204 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: and did I believe he did The Kingdom as well, 205 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: which has got Jamie. 206 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: Fox in it. 207 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: But for the show Friday Night Lights, it didn't get 208 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: the big audiences that they had hoped on NBC think 209 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: at the time. But I was part of that crew 210 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: of people that loved that show. I thought that show 211 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: was phenomenal. 212 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you would sign on to this. 213 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm curious how many people in our audience would. I 214 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: think Friday Night Lights is the best broadcast drama broadcast 215 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: That means everybody gets it for free. It's on ABC, NBCCBS, Fox, 216 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm taking out like the HBO showtimes streaming all of that. 217 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: I think Friday Night Lights is the best broadcast drama 218 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: in the history of television. I don't think there has 219 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: ever been a swinger taken there. It's a big swing. 220 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: But I think about it. You guys out there listening 221 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: can think about it too. Name me a better show 222 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: that we could all watch for free on television than 223 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights. I think it's the best broadcast television 224 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: show of all time. And the challenge for it buck 225 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: was and I eventually got my wife watching it. I 226 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: don't know if Carrie's watched it. A lot of women 227 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: who are not sports fans didn't want to watch it 228 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: because they were like, oh, it's just a football show, 229 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of men didn't want to watch it 230 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: initially because it was a drama. Really, it's the story 231 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: of a marriage, right Coach Taylor and Tammy his wife, 232 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: The Connie Britten characters who are both phenomenal in the 233 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Miles Chandler is that the guy's name right. Yeah, they 234 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: are both incredible. It's really just the story of a marriage. 235 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: If you have not watched it and you are listening 236 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: to us right now and you want something wholesome that 237 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: your entire family could sit down and watch. I think 238 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: it's the best broadcast drama in the history of free television. 239 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't think anything's ever been better. 240 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: What is the show for this Labor Day weekend? Okay, 241 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: let's do this clay before we go here. A show 242 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: and a book that you would be your top as 243 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: people are going into their holiday weekend right now from 244 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: your end. A show that you think people and like 245 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: obviously not you know, the most obvious thing, or like 246 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: a Breaking Bad. We all know Breaking Bad. Some people 247 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: think the best show of all time. But a show 248 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: that you've seen relatively recently and a book that you've 249 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: read relatively recently, that you would recommend to people out 250 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: there for the holiday weekend if they're looking for one. Oh, 251 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: that's a ror movie or movie show or movie. We'll 252 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: make it a little broader. 253 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: The show I would just people have heard me talk 254 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: about this. I'll think about the book for a second. 255 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: The show I would go with is The Righteous Gemstones, 256 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: This is very different from Friday Night Lights, by the way, 257 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: so let me give you two angles. Friday Night Lights wholesome. 258 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: I guarantee that you will like it by and large, 259 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: no matter. It's not political in any way. Righteous Gymstones 260 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: is outrageously, outrageously provocatively funny, but it is not appropriate 261 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: for like a ten year old. You could watch Friday 262 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: Night Lights with a ten year old. What about you? 263 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: What would your picks be on television. 264 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: I'm always a big proponent for adults, and it's definitely 265 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: an adults only show. 266 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: Peaky Blinders for anybody who hasn't seen it. 267 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: I still haven't seen it. I know you've been, You've been. 268 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: You and my older brother Mason, every time I see 269 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: him and we are talking about shows, because you know 270 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: that's what brothers will talk about stuff like that, I'm like, 271 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: how have you not watched it? He always says he's busy, 272 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, what does that mean, I'm not busy, 273 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: Like it's a great show, but he'll he'll get to 274 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: it at some point and then so I would throw 275 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: that one out there for everybody. Carry and I have 276 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: really loved Outlander, which is again an adult that's not 277 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: for the whole family. 278 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: It's an adult's only show. 279 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: But if you like Scotland, it's it's a whole you know, 280 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: there's a whole thing there. And then for books, oh man, 281 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of something that I gave everyone. 282 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: Shadow divers was one of my recks and endurance the 283 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: shackle Dinting Would you read which I appreciate. 284 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: I read it. That is phenomenal. That is a great book. 285 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: It'll make you feel I love reading books. This is 286 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: maybe just me that make me realize what a total 287 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: whats I am because I think people have this sense 288 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: like if you're busy out there, I think it's important. 289 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: This is why I gave everybody the Lewis and Clark 290 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Expedition on Dawning Courage, because I think it's important to 291 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: recognize how much more challengeing circumstances people in our modern 292 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: history have come through and survived than anything that we 293 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: deal with today. Because I think there's this obsession with 294 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: believing that everything that happens right now is the worst 295 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: or the biggest or the most important. Most of the 296 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: time it isn't. And that's why historical uh study teaches you. 297 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of I would say humbleness about 298 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: trying to contextualize your current state. By the way, my 299 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: wife just weight in buck, she says. She agrees with me. 300 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights best show on broadcast TV ever nine 301 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: O two one oh, she says, is second place. So 302 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if that just if a lot of 303 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: people were like buying in and then as soon as 304 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: she says never wrong, was gone. 305 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: I back her up on those are strong choices. 306 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 307 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: If nothing, it will be my number two slot. But 308 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: for broadcast TV, I think it's very hard. 309 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: It has to be an hour long drama. That's the category. 310 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: So people out there are like, what about Seinfeld about Friends? No, No, 311 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about broadcast drama that everybody could watch for free, 312 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: not streaming, not HBO, not Showtime. Because I know I'm 313 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: getting deluged already with people like what about Sopranos HBO show? 314 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you could watch it for free on television, 315 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: not cable, just regular broadcast television. 316 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: I'll come back and I'll give a book recommendation here. 317 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: We'll also look at some of your VIP emails. Clay's 318 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: gonna give a book as well. We haven't done books. 319 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: We'll talk books for the Labor Day weekend that we 320 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: guarantee if you give a shot to including American Playbook 321 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: of course, for my partner here so he doesn't have. 322 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: To sell it. 323 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell everybody you will, of course enjoy American Playbook. 324 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: So I think that has to be Clay's pick, but 325 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: we'll give you some other ones. If you want something 326 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: in the fiction realm maybe as well, and we can 327 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: we can get into that. 328 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: But you know. 329 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: It's I'll tell you this. I have never spent substantial 330 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: time over a weekend, a long weekend, reading a book 331 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: and felt like it was not good ways a good 332 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: usage of time, felt like it was a waste of time. 333 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Sunday hang with Clay and Buck Clay, what were your 334 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: your Do you give the book reres? You just gave 335 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: a Boah. I gave the two book RECs. Those are 336 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: page turners, those are fiction works. I tweeted that out 337 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: as well. If you just type in if you're curious 338 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: page turner at Clay Travis, you'll see those two titles. 339 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I got them at a bookstore. Are you like me? 340 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I know you are, in fact, because we've talked about 341 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: this I don't know on air off air, at least 342 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: in this respect, I'm terrified of being stuck on a 343 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: plane without something to read. I always I bring a 344 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: kindle and a hard copy book just because I'm such 345 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: a weirdo about I need to be able to read 346 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: if I'm on that plane. So I want because it's 347 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: not because I mean, I do read kindle, but sometimes 348 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: it like freezes or the power goes out, and so 349 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: that's how I have to have a backup book ready 350 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: on the plane because otherwise I get anxious. I go 351 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: on Southwest Airlines a lot because it's the most common 352 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: airline in Nashville. So yes, I'm on those flights all 353 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the time. If you're like, I don't lay Travis fly Southwest. Yes, 354 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I fly Southwest all the time. And there's no plugs 355 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: for your phone. You can't charge a phone on a 356 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines flight. I have been on planes before. I'm 357 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: sure many of you have too. It's one thing if 358 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: you're worried about your phone running out and you don't 359 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: have a charger. It's another thing when there is no 360 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: charger opportunity. So I have been terrified four years of 361 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: my phone dying and not having so I make fun 362 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: like some people have seen me, probably listening to us 363 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: right now, Like I will walk on with like eight newspapers. 364 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I look like a newspaper delivery man. And 365 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: then I'll also have hard copy books in case I 366 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: run through all of my reading material. And that's how 367 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I ended up. I was like, man, I'm everything so 368 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: serious in the world. I just want a couple of 369 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: page turners, little murder mystery action I did and they 370 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: were fabulous. I loved them. 371 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: So I have a book since you like that genre. 372 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: And I'm sure these days having written your nonfiction book, 373 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean this one thing that I tell myself is 374 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm already stacking up things that I can just read 375 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: for fun as a enticement to finish the drafting of 376 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: my book, which has got a few more months in 377 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: it of writing. But I am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes. 378 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you know this book. No, 379 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm writing a war on terror genre. It may be 380 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: written out. I think it was maybe fifteen years ago 381 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago was published. It is one of 382 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: the best and most tightly written. It's the guy who 383 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: did the movie. I think he's a screenwriter for the 384 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: movie Payback with Mel Gibson as well. But he also 385 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: yeah remember that movie. Yeah, yeah, he wrote this novel 386 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: and it is it is excellent. It is an excellent novel. 387 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 2: It's it's spy thriller stuff and it's really good. So 388 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: I am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes. If you want that, 389 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: you know that kind of Jack Jack Carr Brad thor genre, 390 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 2: but something a little bit different, because I think our 391 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: audience that likes that genre, it's probably written. 392 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: I mean, read all the. 393 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: Jack car books and maybe as I have read, if 394 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: you're a brad Thorpe Jack Carr person, Jack's a friend 395 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: of ours, so we're obviously big Jack Car fans. And 396 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: I've got his Only the Dead, right, it's in my 397 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: going to Get to Pile. I've got my going to 398 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: Get to Pile with only the Dead in it. For 399 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: those who want something a little different that doesn't involve, 400 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, shooting espionage stuff like that, I think either 401 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: The Billion Dollar Whale or Bad Blood by John carrierru 402 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: Bad Blood's about their nose. Billion Dollar Whale is about 403 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: Joe Low, the one MDB frauds. 404 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: THO. 405 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are both. The way that both of those 406 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: frauds we were pulled off is true page turner kind 407 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: of stuff, and so those would be the ones that 408 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: he immediately come to mind for me. 409 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I've read Bad Blood that is really good for people 410 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: out there. I think that came out of like a 411 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: New Yorker article that somebody wrote and turned into. 412 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: John the Wall Street Journal. 413 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: Actually he was the journal reporter who wrote a series 414 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: he I mean, it's amazing he didn't just write about this. 415 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: He it's written about in the book. They came after 416 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: him for writing. 417 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 418 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: Right, the fraudsters. Elizabeth Holmes is now getting eleven years 419 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: I think in federal prison, and I think she's starting 420 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: her sentence pretty soon. 421 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: I think she's already turned herself and he's. 422 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: Already in right. 423 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got eleven year federal sentence. She got one 424 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: of the biggest, baddest law firms out there to sit 425 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: down at the Wall Street Journal and basically threaten lost. 426 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: Try to refute all of his reporting about the fake, 427 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: fake blood machines that she was alleged to have created. 428 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a fabulous read. 429 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: You know, to the Wall Street Journal's credit didn't didn't 430 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: back down an inch on this one. I mean, you know, 431 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: it helps to be backed by the Murdochs, and you 432 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: know have have big boy funds to play with. 433 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: But remember Murdoch himself lost hundreds of millions of dollars 434 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: in that investment. He was one of the top investors 435 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: for Elizabeth Aharno for theirs. 436 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: It's it's a phenomenal, phenomenal book. I have to tell you, 437 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: and then I on my to read There's so many 438 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: I can tell you that I have read, but on 439 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: my to read pile right now, I have Barbara Tuckman 440 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: A Distant Mirror. Barbara Tuckman wrote The Guns of August, 441 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: which is one of the most famous World War One histories. 442 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: So I haven't read A Distant Mirror yet, but that's 443 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: on my to read book. Do we want to get 444 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: some of the callers in, Yeah, let's do it. We 445 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: have hold on a second. Phil in Austin, Texas. Phil, 446 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: what's going on? 447 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 4: Hey, good afternoon, guys. It's so great to talk to 448 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: you both. I've talked to you individually on your other shows, 449 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: and you guys are filling in the legend and doing 450 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: a fantastic job. I wanted to bring up the Friday 451 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: Night Lights because I live down here in Austin, and 452 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: Michael Waxman, who was the executive producer of that show, 453 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: we used to rodeo with his daughters, and my daughters 454 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 4: were actually extras on that show. 455 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 456 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: That show was really and that was really good. But 457 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: then you brought up twenty four, which was another great 458 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: show that both my wife and I really loved and 459 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 4: enjoyed quite. 460 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: A bit, I think, and I'm not kidding about this. 461 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. And they filmed all of 462 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights in Austin. We are number one in Austin. 463 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: I would imagine that a lot of you who are 464 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: listening here, if you were in Austin around that era, 465 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: remember there being streets and roads shut down because filming 466 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: was going on in that area. If you, I mean, 467 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: I cannot impress upon you enough how good of a 468 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: show Friday Night Lights is. If you have not watched it, 469 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: even if you're not a diehard sports fan, buck you're 470 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: not like a diehard football fan, it's just that good 471 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: of a show. 472 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, It's super well written, it's very well acted, 473 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: the characters are really there's only one or two instances 474 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: where you have some who's clearly in his mid thirties 475 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: playing a high school kid, which I always think, it's like, 476 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: why do they do this, Like can't they get an 477 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: actor or actress who's, you know, in their twenties to 478 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: play the eighteen year old or the sixteen year old 479 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: or whatever it may be. There's only one or two 480 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: actors who I think look like, you know, they would 481 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: have kids of their own who are in Friday night lights. 482 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: For the most part, it's very well cast. 483 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: It's an excellent, excellent show, and I'm trying to think 484 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: of other broadcast shows. It's funny, I watched so little 485 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: broadcast TV that I can't even really think off the 486 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: top of my head of anything that's a drama like 487 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: that that would go and that, Like I found out 488 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: recently there's a Navy Seal TV show. I didn't even 489 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: know about this, and I tend to watch a lot 490 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: of that stuff. I think it was NBC or ABC. 491 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 3: So there are. 492 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: Whole things that go on that get tens of millions 493 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: of dollars spent on them that I have absolutely no idea. 494 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: So we've got we've got a stacked list here of calls. 495 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: Let's see what we got from Jason in Amarillo, Texas. 496 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: Jayson say, what's going on? 497 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: Oh, not much, guys. Hope you all do it well. 498 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: Hope you'll have a good weekend. 499 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, you too a. 500 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: Couple Thank you. I got a couple of books I recommend. 501 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 5: The first one is called Empire of the Summer Moon. 502 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Isn't that a movie, by the way, for people out 503 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: there who may not be readers? Isn't that a movie 504 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: that's coming out soon in theaters? Or am I crazy? 505 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 5: I do not know, sir, I oh, I know it. 506 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 5: It's a book written about ten or fifteen years ago. 507 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 5: I cannot remember the man who wrote his name. But 508 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: it's just about the rise and fall of the Commanding 509 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: Indian tribe, all of the constant warfare down in Texas. Clay, 510 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: I think you're a history guy, so you probably know 511 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: about Cynthia and Parker and Kuana Parker or stuff like that. 512 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: At least I think a lot of people in Texas 513 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 5: know about them, and so very good book, straight down 514 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 5: the middle, not bias towards one side or that. 515 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Jason, I'll tell you I have that on my not 516 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: in my immediate to read. But I already owned that book. 517 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: So that's a book that I've been meaning to get to. 518 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 5: Well, I highly recommend it. I've read it twice. S. C. 519 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Gwinn, by the way, is the author of that book. 520 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I have not read it. I would love to read it. 521 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to look right now and see am 522 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: I crazy or they making a movie about that? And 523 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: I can't tell right now, So but anyway, keep going. 524 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: You had a couple of recommendations you wanted to give us. 525 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: Hi, I actually say you can actually see that guy FC. 526 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 5: Gwyn on Joe Rogan's podcast and he talks about the book. 527 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 5: So as a couple of years ago he did that. 528 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: But the second book is called On Desperate Ground. I 529 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 5: think if the guy wrote, his name is Hampton Sides, 530 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: I guess a few years old. It's about the first 531 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 5: Marine Division during the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir. Very 532 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 5: good book. Read it twice as well, So I highly 533 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: recommend that. 534 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds great. I've got I'm looking at my bookshelf, 535 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: you know, I do the radio show with my bookshelf 536 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: right right next to me. And if we're talking World 537 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: War I mean there's a whole We can do a 538 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: whole segment or a whole hour on just World War 539 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: two books for me, With the Old Breed, Helmet for 540 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: My Pillow, Neptunes, and Ferno, all of those, I've read. 541 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: Those. 542 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: Those are awesome. 543 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan, and I've got those in the 544 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: bookshelf right in front of me here. Plus Keegan's History 545 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: of the Second World War that's a little more kind 546 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: of traditional historian, obviously not a first person account like 547 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: you get from with the Have you ever read with 548 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: the Old with the Old Breed and Helmet from My 549 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: Pillow are effectively combined for the HBO series The Pacific. 550 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: No, I haven't read that. 551 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm good. If you for fiction, Clay, 552 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 2: I'm giving Clay homework. Okay, for fiction, check out I 553 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: Am Pilgrim. And for nonfiction World War two stuff, I'd 554 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: start with with The Old Breed and Eugene Sledge. It's 555 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: it's it's just so good and like kind of haunting. 556 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: But I'm amazing as a read, so I would throw 557 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: that in the mix. 558 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: I'm a civil war history nerd, so I really legitimately 559 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: believe I've read every major civil war history book that 560 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: has been written in the last forty or fifty years, 561 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: and a lot of them that were written before that. 562 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck. This is a fun call. Buck, 563 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: I was talking about the fact that I won a 564 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: halftime contest and an NFL stadium halftime show. This is 565 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: a long time ago. This is back in two thousand 566 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: and two, I think, and Tim and Florida called in 567 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: wanting to ask for people who were not listening. I 568 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: want a Mercury Mountaineer, brand new, and I want a 569 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: pontoon boat. Tim and Florida, you have a question about. 570 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: That, Well, I just need to know the rest of 571 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: the story. You can't tell us you want a free 572 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: truck and a boat and not so how it ended up. 573 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: So I drove the car for like twelve years. I 574 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: drove the Mercury Mountaineer. Is that Is that what nicer 575 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: I had? Is it wood paneled sides? No? No, no. The 576 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: Mercury Mountaineer was like a luxury version of the Ford Explorer. 577 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: So for anybody I think they've shut down the Mercury aspect. 578 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: It was owned by I believe Ford. And if you've 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: ever driven in a Ford Explorer, the Mercury Mountaineer was 580 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: like the luxury version of the Ford Explorer base the 581 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: wagon ear, I believe. So I drove that for years 582 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: until basically that car ran out, and then I traded 583 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: it in and got a new car, like after ten 584 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: years or something. I drove it for a long time. 585 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: I sold the pontooned. I was in law school. I 586 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: had no money. I sold the pontoon boat back to 587 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: the pontoon boat salesman and he just gave me a 588 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: check for like I think it was fifteen K, which 589 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: is not a small amount of money now, but it 590 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: was a monster amount of money to me then. And 591 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: so I kept the car and I had to pay 592 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: tax on it, by the way, so the irs agent's 593 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: out there listening in two thousand and two or whatever, 594 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of income, but I had 595 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: to pay tax on the car, and I had to 596 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: pay tax on the boat. But so I paid a 597 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of the taxes with the money that I got 598 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: for selling the boat. And yeah, I mean it was 599 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: a you know, fifty thousand dollars plus prize package that 600 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: I won on the football field. 601 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: Wow. 602 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean, did you ever have a car with wood 603 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: paneled sides because I did. 604 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: That's why I'm asking about this. 605 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: I had a road a Buick Roadmaster station Wagon was 606 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: my first car. 607 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: In the eighties. I feel like every parent, we did not, 608 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: but I feel like every parent that's car that I 609 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: got into. Do you remember bucking that old like station 610 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: I bet those are going to come back in style 611 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: with the wood paneling on the side. 612 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: The Roadmaster is now considered a classic and they're tough 613 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: to find, and they're like, the price is not some 614 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: old it's like a collectible. 615 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: Now, do you remember. I bet a lot of people 616 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: listening to us right now because I remember being the 617 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: kid in the back they had in the way back 618 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: of the wood paneled car, they had a rear f 619 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: yes seat, doumya. I don't think they even make cars 620 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: that have rear facing seats anymore. 621 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: You're driving my beloved Roadmaster, that's exactly. It had the 622 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: very back bench seat facing in reverse. Yes, And I 623 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: remember that that was back in the day. First of all, 624 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: your kids would run around like crazy because you wanted 625 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: to be reverse facing. The fact that I don't I 626 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: am I correct. I don't think there's a single vehicle 627 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: that they make now where you face the other direction. 628 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: I imagine that probably wasn't very safe for rear car accidents, right, 629 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: because you're literally going right into it's like a front 630 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: facing accident. You know you've got for National Lampoon's vacation. 631 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: It was a Ford Country Squire. That was the wood 632 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: paneled car for that one. 633 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: That chevy Chase drove. 634 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: Yes, the chevy Chase station Wagon is a Ford Country Squire. 635 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you find too many of o's 636 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: in the road. That was nineth teen seventy nine. 637 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember the woman who pulled up beside chevy 638 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Chase the really good shiffer? Am I right? Good? 639 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 4: Guess? Yeah? 640 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: I believe on the other one, Christy Brinkley, thank you. Yes, 641 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: Christy Brinkley was the model who pulled up next to 642 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the family station Wagon. Later ended up swimming in the 643 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: pool at the at the motel. But I don't think 644 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: am I correcting this? I don't think there is a 645 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: single car that's made today where you face backwards. Tying 646 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: it all together buck. Southwest Airlines, they are airplanes you 647 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: used to face rear up in the front of the 648 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: airplane for old school Southwest flyers. That doesn't exist now 649 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Either