1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: All right, it's another episode of splash Hit post Christmas edition. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna have fun today. It's gonna be an end 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: of the year awards show. Since the Giants won all 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: kinds of awards at the winter meeting, Susan and I 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: thought it would be great to do an award show today. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have fun. But in the meantime, before 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: I bring Susan in, before I introduce it, like I 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: always do, got to take care of some business. You 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: guys are doing great at subscribing to this, better than 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: I can say it. So this is real easy. Go 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: to YouTube splash Hit Territory, click on subscribe. I think 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: we've got two thousand and some followers right now. You 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: guys have been great. We like the comments we go in. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: Susan and I both read the comments. You guys have 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: been amazing. You get into your own discussions in the comments. 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: It's really great. So we're glad we're here for you guys. 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: In the off season, we're doing two shows in the 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: off season that we're doing three shows during the season. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about actual baseball games. And I 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: can't wait for this. I just bs through these. I 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to get to the season and break down 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: some games. But we're gonna have fun today, Susan. Susan 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Slusser joins us, I hope you had a great Christmas. 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: I did a f PM. This should be a real 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: fun one. I've been kind of doing some deep dives 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: back into some old stories, which is fun to kind 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: of talk about awards and big moments and stuff like this. 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: You remember, hey, kind of ultimately a disappointing Giant season, 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: but there was a lot of really fun stuff and 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: obviously the people that were lucky enough to cover every 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: day are super fun and wildly interesting, so that's a 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: good thing. So you and I kicked around different awards 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: to give out, and I thought that one that was 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: really important to give out right from the top because 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: it's really the person we talked about all year is 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Man of the Year, which for me, hey, look it 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: could be somebody different for UFP, I don't know, but 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: Man of the Year the constant topic of conversation and 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: still obviously going into this office and is buster posey, 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: what's he going to do? How's he going to handle things? 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: And of course he comes out with a massive trade 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: way before the deadline, he makes a big managerial change, 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: a crazy managerial hire, people thought initially, so, I mean, 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: obviously still be TVD, But who for you is the 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Giants Man of the Year FP. 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think I have to agree with you, and 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: some of these were going to disagree. But you know, 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I could go a different route and try to be 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: usk my way through this thing, but it's got to 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: be bustered. His first year of President of Baseball Operations 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: and all all that he did, and like I always say, 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: laden foundation for an organization isn't easy. But I thought 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: the way he just kind of like stayed back, observed 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: set the foundation, didn't try to change things all immediately 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: went out and got Rafael Devers, all the other things 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: he did, signing Willia Damas and just being a leader. 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think being a great leader is not trying 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: to change things all at once, and having patience and 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: being humble and asking questions. So when you talk about 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: the direction of the organization, even though we haven't had 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about in the offseason, I believe 62 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: in this guy because he's a three time World Series champion, 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: he's a winner, he's intelligent, he's humble, and he's learning 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: on the fly, He's not afraid to ask questions. He 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: didn't act like he knew everything right out of the gate. 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: And I think as we see this whole Buster Posey 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: as a president of baseball operations evolve, we're seeing a 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: guy that really cares about the Giant's number one, cares 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: about the community, cares about the players, and is making 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: really good decisions. And I'm really excited to see where 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: this goes. I still think, and I've talked about this 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: on cambr that he's going to make a great big 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: league manager someday. I think he would be one of 74 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: the best big league managers in the history of the 75 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: game if he decides to do it. I know the 76 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: family concerns are there. Bobby Cox comes to mind. Bobby 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Cox was a front office guy with the Blue Jays 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: before he became a manager on the field, and Bobby 79 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Cox is one of my favorite managers of all times 80 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: and one of the greatest managers of all times. And 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Buster reminds me a lot of Bobby Cox, a players, 82 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: guy that's always going to stand up for his players, 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna wear it. In the media, I heard story Susan 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: about Bobby Cox where even if he thought his player 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: was wrong and he's arguing a safer out call, he 86 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: would go out there and stand up for his player, 87 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: get thrown out for his player, even if he thought 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: the player was wrong. And a lot of managers will 89 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: leave you hanging if you're out there, and Bobby always 90 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: had his players back. I've never met one guy that 91 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: played for Bobby Cox that said a bad thing about him. 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: I think Buster could be like that eventually, But right now, 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying what he's done as a front office guy. 94 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: And I know people like to be critical, but it's 95 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: a process. It's a learning process for him, and I 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: think he's learning incredibly quick and he's going to be 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: great at what he does, and is already great at 98 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: what he does. 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I thought when Buster retired, okay, 100 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: maybe he'll come back in about ten years or something 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: and goes straight into the dugout and be the best 102 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: manager in the game. I didn't foresee this happening, but 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: it did make this very much the year of Buster, 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: right And I think next year the narrative is going 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: to be the Year of Tony Tony Vitello. But this 106 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: was all about Buster and man, he really was just 107 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: we always use the word bold, but gosh, he was bold, 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: which shouldn't come as a surprise. He's Buster Posey, He's 109 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: very confident, he makes good decisions. You're right, he knows 110 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: what he doesn't know, huge important factor for any leader. 111 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: And he surrounds himself with really not as good people, 112 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: with great people. So yeah, Man of the Year. Story 113 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: of the year basically was Buster Posey despite a disappointing 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: season again, and nobody felt that more deeply than Buster Posey. 115 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Really an interesting season and he made it an interesting season. 116 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: So of course you go from that to Team MVP. 117 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: I have a feeling this is another one we would 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: probably agree on. For me, it's got to be Logan Web. 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: He got a horse like that who throws as many 120 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: innings as he does and just reliable, and it's sort 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: of the barometer of how the team feels, what the 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: team is thinking about things. Leader in the clubhouse. It's 123 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: unusual to have a team MVP. Sometimes he's a starting pitcher, 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: but not when it's not. When it's somebody like Logan Web. 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: What what are your thoughts there? 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm going Lee corso on you not so fast? My friend. Well, 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: I love Logan, it's a former position player. I gotta 128 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I gotta go with guys that grind every single day. 129 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: And I can't disagree with Logan because I'm a big 130 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: fan of the person, even more than the player. But 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: I got age with Willia Domas and just in the 132 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: sense that he signed the big contract. He's such a 133 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: people pleaser that he wanted to please everybody out of 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: the gate. He wanted to get off to a great start. 135 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: He wanted to show the fan base, his teammates as coaches, 136 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: what a great guy he was, what a great player 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: he was. And in baseball, if you try too hard, 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: it goes the other way. And he was over trying 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: early in the season. And I think back to some 140 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: of my more satisfying seasons, Susan. They weren't the ones 141 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: where I started out great and just played well all year, 142 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: which were not too many. They were the ones where 143 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: I was hitting maybe two hundred at the All Star 144 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: break and ended up at two fifty, and that under 145 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: no pressure. Like Williadamas, I had a few seasons in 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: the minor leagues where I started out really slow, stayed 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: with it, believed in myself, stayed with the work ethic, 148 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden at the end of the season, 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: even though I didn't hit two eighty two ninety, just 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: to come back from that was super gratifying, super satisfying 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: that I believed in myself stayed with my work ethic. 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: On a much bigger scale, you signed a guy like 153 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Williadamas that comes in and he's trying so hard. He 154 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: gets off to such a bad start, He's swinging at everything, 155 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: he's striking out, he's not making plays at shortstop, and 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there defending him all the time because I 157 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: know what kind of player this is. When they signed him, 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I was super excited and I know what he means 159 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: in a clubhouse. So when you take the whole package 160 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: of he was the same guy every single day in 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. He came with the same energy, the same positivity, 162 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: even when he was hitting below two hundred and he 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: was scoffling. And to end up with thirty home runs 164 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: on the last day of the season and getting his 165 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: numbers to respectability where they were playing a great shortstop eventually, 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: and just being the same guy and being a team leader. 167 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure were going to talk about William Thomas a 168 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: lot in this episode. But yeah, he's definitely my MVP, 169 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: just because he overcame a lot this year and was 170 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: the same person every day. 171 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Well, you talk about we could put William Thomas in 172 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: a number of categories. This next one, I would say 173 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: just from the first half to the second half most improved. 174 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: He was first from the first half to the second 175 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: half most improved. But I've got two for this one. 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: I know that's kind of cheating and I hate to 177 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: take I should probably let you go for it next 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: next one, everybody let me go forward first. 179 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't go first. And then I used to 180 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: get the leftovers. I get the scratched first of all. 181 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: Like in high school, if you got most improved at 182 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: the football banquet, that was like the lamest award in 183 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: the world. Like, oh, I got most improved. That means 184 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I sucked, and then I kind of didn't suck at 185 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: the end. 186 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: It's that war. 187 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: I think I threw those trophies right in the garbage 188 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: can because I got him and I was embarrassed to 189 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: get him. This is different than high school football. All right. 190 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with landon route because early in 191 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: the season, I'm for sure that was probably one of yours. 192 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: He was a fastball, curveball guy. And as a big 193 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: league hitter, if you got two pitches, I got a 194 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty chance of guessing right. Also as a hitter, 195 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: if you show me your curveball early, I know where 196 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: it starts, and I know where it ends up, and 197 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I know if it starts here, it's going to be 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: a ball. I know if it starts here, it's going 199 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: to be a strike. I know if it starts way 200 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: up here, it's going to be a hangar. And you 201 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: can kind of see a curveball pop out of a 202 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: guy's hand, where when you throw it, the ball goes 203 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: up and you see it up out of his hand quickly. 204 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: I wish I had a baseball demonstrate. So early in 205 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: the year he was fastball, curveball, and that was it. 206 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: It was fifty to fifty. And then he evolved into 207 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: a complete pitcher where now it's the change up, Now 208 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: it's a sinker. Now it's a four seamer. Now I 209 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: believe a cutter or a slider or something like that, 210 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: and the curveball and a changeup, and he just became 211 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: a complete pitcher. And on top of that I watched 212 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: his demeanor grow and as mountain presence grow throughout the season, 213 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: where the confidence level and he started to get bigger 214 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: out there, and he was kind of kind of surly, 215 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: which I really like about him. So for me, he's 216 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: going to be a big part of this year. And 217 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: I watched him grow as a major leaguer and I 218 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: think he's going to add a lot of value to 219 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: that staff this year. And I was really bummed when 220 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: he got hurt. 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Well good, we don't bump up yet again. I think 222 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: for me, one of the things I liked about this 223 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: category and you touched on it, is these are guys 224 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: sort of the most improved guys who I think are 225 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: going to take more steps next year. They've set a 226 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: good base for this year. These the two guys I'm 227 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: about to mention because I got one on defense and 228 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: one on offense, are so important. Obviously the first one 229 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: when I talk about most different improved defensively as Raphaeldevers 230 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: never played first before, uh was had all that sort 231 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: of drama around not playing first, and Boston comes in 232 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: starts working out there a little bit of a nod 233 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: in a wink with when the Red Sox are in 234 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: town right away when he's working out there. Love that, 235 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: and he had so much better by the end of 236 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: the season. He was starting some really slick double plays. 237 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: Seems to have the footwork basics, and he's going to 238 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: be working with Ron Washington. We've talked about this a 239 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: million times, but wow, is that going to be big 240 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: because I think he could be really a very top 241 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: notch first basement. I keep talking about it because I 242 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: think it's such an interesting, amazing development. And then offensively, 243 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: people might be surprised by this. I wrote about it 244 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: sort of it midway through the second half, but Patrick 245 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Bailey figured some things out offensively, and you look at 246 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: overall numbers and you go like, oh, okay, he's still 247 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: a defensive guy. Gold glove, I'll give him that. But 248 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: his first two years, this is where I think this 249 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: is really significant. He hit over two ninety the first 250 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: half of his first season, his rookie year, and then 251 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: he hit like one thirty the rest of the way. 252 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: The second year, he hit over two eighty the first 253 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: half and similar hit one twenty the rest in the 254 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: second half. This year, he was by far so much 255 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: better in the second half, hit the majority of his 256 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: home runs four of his six home runs in September. 257 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: He hit two eighty eight in September, and that's when 258 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: a big league catcher is usually really slowing down, and 259 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: he was doing the bulk of the catching by far. 260 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: So I think that that's a massive development. If he's 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: really figured out something that's clicked. It's to the point 262 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: you and I've been talking about shitt he just hit 263 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: from one side. I'm throwing that conversation out the window. 264 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: FP. 265 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: When you do a deep dive into the numbers, I 266 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: think that's you know, it's pretty pretty exciting to see 267 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: what's happened there. So I'm going to go first on 268 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: this next one, especially since this one's really obvious. Most inspirational. 269 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: This is where I put Willia Damas. That dude never 270 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: stops smiling. He is the most team oriented. I got 271 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: your back, guy. I love it. The I'll probably have 272 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: a few references to the Little Brew haha. In September, 273 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: I think on this show, but he the second starts 274 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: taking to it a step toward Kyle Freeland, Willia Damas 275 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: was right right behind him, so I thought he, you know, 276 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: especially given that rough first half he had. He turns 277 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: it around, and he never stopped smiling, was accountable. Really, 278 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: everything we heard when he came over from Milwaukee, we 279 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: saw it in action. 280 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: All Right, I've got to go postgame rap here good picks. 281 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: Here's a good pick. 282 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: That's all you got. 283 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: No, I mean, there's that is a good pick. But 284 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: I could go the easy route and say Drew Gilbert 285 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: because when he got called up, he added a spark 286 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: to the ball club that they didn't have all season. 287 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give it honorable mention, but I'm gonna 288 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: go Matt Chapman for most inspirational because I love the 289 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: way he plays baseball. I love the way he approaches 290 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: the game every single day. He fires me up as 291 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: much as anybody on that team when he makes a 292 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: diving play, just to watch him play third base, just 293 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: to watch him run to first. It's simple things like 294 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: he runs every ball out as hard as he can 295 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: all season long. He posts every day. He doesn't want 296 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: days off. Bob Melvin had to twist his arm for 297 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: days off, And that's inspiring to me. If I'm in 298 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the clubhouse that one of the guys that's making the 299 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: most money on the team wants to play every single day, 300 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just love the guy. I 301 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: love the way he plays third I know he had 302 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: the scabs on his hands a lot at third base 303 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: this year. That became a big problem, even bigger than 304 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the one that you reported on. He was real frush 305 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: straight about every time he dove for a baseball there 306 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: was like scabs on his hands, and that shouldn't happen 307 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: anywhere at the big league level. So he plays, he plays, 308 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: he plays. He plays under control, but with his hair 309 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: on fire, it's always not noticeable. But if you've played 310 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: the game for a long time or you're his teammate, 311 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: everybody talks about Matt Chapman. So he inspires me, he 312 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: inspires his teammate. I'm giving him most inspiration. 313 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: I think those are both excellent. You can't go wrong 314 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: with either one, I feel like, So here's your chance 315 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: to start off with biggest moment of the year. What 316 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: was there one thing that really jumped out to you? 317 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: There's two, and I don't want to step on yours, 318 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: so I'm just going to talk about mine, and if 319 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: you don't say yours, I'm coming back to me with mine. 320 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: But for selfish reasons, I was doing the game against 321 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: Philadelphia when Patrick Bailey hit the inside the park walk 322 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: off home run. So you know, we've always said he 323 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: does have the Klatchy gen. He does get a lot 324 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: of big hits. But to watch that whole thing unfold, 325 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: and to watch my partner Dave Fleming right next to 326 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: me standing up in the booth with veins popping out 327 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: in his neck, his face. You know, Dave, he's pale, 328 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: he was beat red, and I don't know, I thought 329 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: he was going to pass out. So I'm watching the play. 330 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm going nuts, and as a color analyst, you can't 331 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: say anything. You just have to sit there. And I'm 332 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: doing this standing up next to him, I'm watching him, 333 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: and then I'm watching the play that I'm watching him, 334 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here kind of witnessing one of the 335 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: greatest calls in Giant's history and one of the greatest 336 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: moments of the year, and Dave absolutely freaking nailed that. 337 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: It was so cool to be a small part. And 338 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: then to watch the celebration, which ended up right in 339 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: front of the Phillies dugout in the on deck circle 340 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: and they're ripping off his jersey and it was just 341 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the most unlikely thing. Dave was on top of it. 342 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: He's one of the best broadcasters in baseball period, one 343 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: of the best broadcasters in any sport period going right now, 344 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: but that was my favorite moment of the year. And 345 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I'll let you go now. But that was so free 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: and cool. Just to be a tiny I think I 347 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: said two words in that whole thing. I'm like, what 348 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: am I going to add to that that he hasn't 349 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: already said? So I'm just gonna like lay out and 350 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: let the crowd take it from here. 351 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 2: Well, that's that I was going to say that, and 352 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: I will I will add that when you have a 353 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: play that everyone who sees it cannot wait to watch 354 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: multiple times, multiple times on replay, Like that's the first 355 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: thing everything everybody did, right we to go? Is that 356 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: really what happened? I mean Patrick Bailey? So yeah, fun stuff, 357 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: and you know what a great moment for Bailey. He's 358 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: like he could always show that, he could show that. 359 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: I would have that on a loop in my house 360 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: if I was Pat Bayley. 361 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: See he endited with it. And now we've seen everything, 362 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: which is a crazy so I thought of it. You 363 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: got another one because I'm going honorable mention, I do, I. 364 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: Do have another one. I just think for the overall 365 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: arc of the season, the biggest moment, uh, the most 366 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: important moment for the overall arc the season was the 367 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: Devors trade and that was also insane, like nobody could 368 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: believe it, Like the whoop, sort of the rumbling around 369 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: the press box when there were first some reports out 370 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: about that trade was like it was like you could 371 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: hear it, sort of building throughout the press box. Just 372 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: what what so? Yeah, that was and obviously sets up 373 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: the Giants potentially for a long time if Devers is 374 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: the player they believe and I believe he is. 375 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. William Domas is the first 376 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: pitch home run in Milwaukee when he got the standing ovation. 377 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: John and I were on that call too. I was 378 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: pretty lucky to be a part of these things. Really 379 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: just so many gays. But to get the standing ovation, 380 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: to tip the cap, I think he was almost in tears. 381 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: And then to see the baseball go deep and the 382 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: cheers turned to booze ten steps down the first baseline. 383 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool too. But I you know, mine 384 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: was an in game moment. Yours was like the big 385 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: arc of the season. Moment, and I love where you 386 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: went with that because that was probably the biggest moment 387 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: of the year. Getting Yeah. 388 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: So the next one is the moment the season went south, 389 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: which I have a couple different options for this one. Sadly, 390 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 2: I think the obvious one you look at it is 391 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: the two series right before the trade deadline, right against 392 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: the Mets and then the Pirates at home. That was 393 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: when Bob Melvin said a couple of times like we 394 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: need to be better for the fans, like this is 395 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 2: this is not acceptable? Four games in which they scored 396 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: one run. They lost two to one games in that 397 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: stretch at home, and then of course that stretch leads 398 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: them to trade, you know, essentially the back end of 399 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: the bullpen, so huge, huge for them. I will also 400 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: point to, weirdly, the Devs trade. The Giants were tied 401 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: for first place going into that series when the trade 402 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: happened and Devers hadn't joined yet. But that Friday night 403 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: in in La, they were tied for first place, the 404 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Giants forty and twenty nine I believe forty two to 405 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: twenty nine something like that, And obviously this season did 406 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: not go as they wanted. From that was the last 407 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: time they had a sniff of first place, they get Devers. 408 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 2: And the one thing nobody agrees with me on. The 409 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: one thing that the Devers trade brought was a little 410 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: less playing time for Dom Smith, who was playing really well, 411 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: and a lot less time for Wilmer Flores, who was 412 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: the guy that really offensively got them into that first 413 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: place position. And now you can say what you want 414 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: about Wilmer Flores and where he is in his career, 415 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: but he then sat for a long time, and the 416 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: sparse usage he played in eighty eight games in the 417 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: first half and he played in I think, I want 418 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: to say, like thirty in the second half. I mean, 419 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: it was a huge difference. So I think that like 420 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: threw them off a little bit somehow, And obviously Devers 421 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: started off a little bit slow, but that was big 422 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: fb Any kind of moments where you thought this team 423 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: might be in trouble now, well. 424 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: It was maddening at times because they'd be playing so 425 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: well and they'd win like ten out of twelve and 426 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, that was it. The homestand 427 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about where didn't they lose fifteen of sixteen 428 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: at home or. 429 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: Something like getting the Yeah, yeah, there weren't a lot 430 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: of really bad stretches. It was a streaky team, but 431 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: it seemed like the bad stretches lasted a lot longer. 432 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: And then we look at the record, I guess it 433 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: was sort of even and when it came out in 434 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: the wash, but it felt like there was something with 435 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: the bad stretches that felt a lot longer. 436 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't just losing fifteen to sixteen. It was how 437 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: they did it too. Like you could be snake bit 438 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: where you're getting walked off on the road or you're 439 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: losing the last standing at home and it's four to three, 440 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: three to two, and it's just baseball, but when you 441 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: don't know the infield fly rule and there's errors everywhere, 442 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: and it was it was really bad baseball. And I 443 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: think the guys in the clubhouse would admit that. So 444 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't oh, they lost fifteen of sixteen, which sucks 445 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: however you cut it, but it's how they were laying 446 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: at the time. And they went from like a really 447 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: good streak where they came off a road trip. I 448 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: think they did well in Milwaukee if I'm not mistaken, 449 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: and then they came home and it was just like like, 450 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: how do you just go like that? Like how does 451 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: that happen? And how does it happen for so long? 452 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: And I think there's been a lot talked about that, 453 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: So I'll just go that that home streak, whatever it was, 454 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: where they just weren't playing well on the corner of 455 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: third and King, the one they just pop up out 456 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: of nowhere. This is outstanding. I think I already talked 457 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: about the player of the Year for me, so I'm 458 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: gonna let you go first on this one. 459 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: Oh well, for me, it's kind of I mean there 460 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: obviously there are a few. I was going to use 461 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: Pat for the other one. I can't use pat in 462 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: the inside. You can't use it for everything. But the 463 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: Jung hu Lee catch between the knees I believe it 464 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: was in August against the Rays was crazy. It's sort 465 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: of like exemplified both really good and bad things both 466 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: about the Giant's outfield in general and the Jung Hulee season. 467 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: I mean, he really he does have such a world 468 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: of talent and I do not know how that was, 469 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: Like it looked like a magic trick. Then the ball 470 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: hits the heel, he runs it down, hits the heel 471 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: had it in the glove, looks like, oh no, this 472 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: is another bad player for the Giants, rolls down his 473 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: arm kind of keeps rolling and somehow he wedges it 474 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: between his knees, and he was so nonchalant after the 475 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: game about it, just sort of yeah, no, you know, 476 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: of course this is what happened, and not really a 477 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: big deal, like what are you kidding me? But he 478 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: had a mixed season in the outfield, and of course 479 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: they had the worst outfield defense in the Major Really 480 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: so fun to see a great play, but you go, oh, 481 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: a lot of times that play was not getting made, 482 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: those kind of balls off the heels of the glove. 483 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: You mentioned a lot of the mental mistakes, but it 484 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: was nice to see one go the right way. I 485 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: guess if you're a Giants fan, and certainly for Giants players. 486 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'll go with Bailey's walk off for 487 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: Bailey's walk off home run against the Dodgers, and if 488 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: we're doing player of the year, he didn't say good 489 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: player of the year. When Elliott Rommels threw the ball 490 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: into center field instead of toward the infield forgetting the 491 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: number out, I've never seen that one before. That was 492 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: that was not a good throw by Elliot. I'm sure 493 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: he would play. 494 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: The year could be bad, Yeah, I mean, honestly for 495 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: the outfield, maybe we should pick one of the bad ones. 496 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: No, let's not. Let's keep this positive, lets keep it rolling. 497 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Promotion of the Year is the one I see next 498 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: on our list of awards here. The Giants won all 499 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: the awards at the winter meetings, so Susan and I 500 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: are giving awards today. We're having fun with it. Promotion 501 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: of the Year. Susan, you go first on this one. 502 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of pretty easy. The guy that we've 503 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: been waiting for all year, Bryce Eldridge, obviously just a 504 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: cup of coffee in September after Sacramento season ended. But look, 505 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: there was so much hype, so much written about him, 506 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: and you know he did He doesn't get much Blade time, 507 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, doesn't really too much of anything. But it 508 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: really said except for this off season, and the Giants, yes, 509 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: have not done very much this off season. But I 510 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 2: can tell you the buzzy is constantly, are they going 511 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: to trade Bryce? What could they get for Bryce? Who's 512 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: asking on Bryce? And I think some of that is 513 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: because there was such a you know, there was so 514 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: much emphasis on him in September when he came up. 515 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: I mean, he is their name prospect. So fun to 516 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: see him come up, even though he didn't do much, 517 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: And if he's still with the team, the all of 518 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: spring training will be Is he going to be on 519 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: the opening day roster? 520 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that's got to be it. There was 521 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: one promotion that I can't even remember where we claim 522 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: some guy off waivers. He played one game in center 523 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: field and then we released I don't even remember who 524 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: that was the far runs. 525 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't Daniel Johnson. He actually played a couple 526 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: of games. 527 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be Bryce for promotion of the year. 528 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Nothing to add to that. I can't wait to see 529 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: that guy develop. I got a text from a buddy 530 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: last night that said, do you trade Bryce Harper for 531 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Bryce Elderg. I guess that's what all Giants fans are talking. 532 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: About, because you keep talking about it. This came from you. 533 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: I think you started your own rumor. 534 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: Mmm, okay, I'll wear that one. I didn't hear that 535 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: anywhere else. I just made that up myself. Right, you're right, 536 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: I will for this podcast sake. I can't give up 537 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: my sources. All right, my sources me, My sources are 538 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: me and my multiple personalities. All right, mister congeniality is 539 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: next time. List. I gotta get out of this one, 540 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: mister on the list, Okay, you go first. 541 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: This is such a toughy. This is such a toughy. 542 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: I got a lot of possibilities for this one. It's 543 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: a great clubhouse. Really, everyone's so good to deal with. 544 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: Wilmer Flores springs to mind, blue guy, wonderful, easygoing. He's 545 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: probably gonna be my top pick there. But you know 546 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: who underrated was phenomenal and dealing with a lot, including 547 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: tons of fan criticism. I'm going to go to the coach, 548 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: and that's Pat Burrall, who was as delightful, chit chatty, funny, interesting, 549 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: willing to talk, totally accountable all season even as he 550 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: was really getting ripped, especially by fans. 551 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: That's a great pick. Yeah, I didn't even think of Pat. 552 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: But Pat was the same guy every day, a lot 553 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: like Willia Domas. He's getting crushed in the newspaper, getting 554 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: crushed by fans, getting crushed on canb are in my 555 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: experience is Susan. I never blamed a hitting coach for anything. Ever, 556 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: Like when you get to that level, you got to 557 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: know how to fix your own swing. You've got position 558 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: players that are your buddies, that that are probably your 559 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: best coaches that can lock you in. And I think 560 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot of us as fans, we go back to 561 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: crappy high school coaches we had, or crappy little league 562 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: coaches we had, and we like to blame people. It's 563 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: his fault, it's his fault, it's his fault. I was 564 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: in the cage with Pat a lot this year. He 565 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: was so nice, Like broadcasters usually don't go into the cage, 566 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: but he would bring me in and say watch this, 567 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: what do you think? Ask me questions like it. But 568 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: he'd always be working with these guys. I don't think 569 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: a lot of fans know, like hitting coaches get there 570 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: like eleven and then they leave like an hour after 571 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: the game. Pat was a believer in And then I 572 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: will say this full disclosure. Right after the game, he 573 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: was on the bus. He's like, I don't want to 574 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: deal with anything right after the game because there's too 575 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: much emotion involved. Some players like to say after a 576 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: game and hit, which I always thought was weird, Like 577 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: you just get there early tomorrow, leave it at the ballpark. 578 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: But Pat would get there early and work with these guys. Man, 579 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: he's just a great person. He's going to be in 580 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: the organization, and that's a great job by Buster keeping 581 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: him around, because I've always said I think Pat would 582 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: be a good manager, just because the way he relates 583 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: with people. He knows the game. Maybe the mechanics of hitting. 584 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's good at it, but sometimes you know, 585 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: Dusty was a hitting coach, and he was a good 586 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: hitting coach, but he was a Hall of Fame manager. 587 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: That's how Dusty started, and I think Pat could do 588 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: the same thing if he wanted to. 589 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: I agree, I'd love to see him get a shot 590 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: somewhere in the organization as a manager. I think he 591 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: could move up pretty quickly, and I think he'd be 592 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: in demand from other teams because he has that sort 593 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: of overview of things. But I'm with you on the 594 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: hitting coach, I don't I'm not sure in this day 595 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: and age, with video and the metrics that necessarily sometimes 596 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: the hitting coach is mostly I want to be here 597 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: to help you to Winnow this stuff down, to figure 598 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: out what's most important to you, and then I will 599 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: provide it to you and whatever else. They usually ask 600 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: the players to tell them what they need, which is 601 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: probably what they should. All these guys they have their 602 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: own hitting guys or their dad, their college coach. Like, 603 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: they have so many people. There's a lot of noise, 604 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: so when one guy is really struggling, it's really hard 605 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: to herman. You know, are they listening to somebody else? 606 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Are they listening to too many people? Are they looking 607 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: at too many numbers? There's just a lot. Sometimes it's 608 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: paralysis by analysis, it seems like when it comes to hitting. So, yeah, 609 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: that is not how I envisioned that topic. But I 610 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: will say I'm going to go with the same guy. 611 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go in the next topic. 612 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: But who won't be back next year? Who will be 613 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: the most missed? The two who will be missed? I 614 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: think Olie Wall will like all that. Their their own 615 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: free agents are all really good dudes. I liked Verlander 616 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: a lot. I've actually got a real kick out of 617 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: covering Verlander for you. A Hall of Famer and he's 618 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: I think he was a really good team guy and 619 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: good with the pitch. That's not who I'm picking, obviously, 620 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: you guys know, I love Wilmar Floor. So I'm picking 621 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Wilmer Floor. Is the reason I'm doing that is because 622 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: I hope very much that Dom Smith Smith is back. 623 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I know the Giants had checked in on him. I 624 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: think that's one of those Hey, we have a lot 625 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: of other things that we're working on. We're going to 626 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: get back to you later. And I think the Dom 627 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: Smith sort of category of player in general, they're pretty 628 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: used to We're going to let the teams with a 629 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: bigger budgets and content potential contenders make their big moves 630 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: and then that's call us when you're ready. So I 631 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't be stunned if he comes back, but if he's 632 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: not back, I would like to revise my answer. 633 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm going with the sub mariner Tyler Rodgers. He signed 634 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: with the Blue Jays. Got a nice little deal there. 635 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: How about you, as this deal good for you? He's 636 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: going to hit bombs in right field there, He's gonna 637 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: have a good year in Atlanta that that ballpark's made 638 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: for him. But yeah, I'm gonna go with Tyler Rodgers. 639 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talking amongst the fan base about oh, 640 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: we can just sign it back next. That's not how 641 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: it works. Man, you don't go backwards in baseball. That's 642 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: the sentimental we get attached to guys. We like guys. Yeah, 643 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: we'll just come back. I knew he wasn't coming back. Yeah, 644 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: he's a guy that there was a chance that he 645 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: would come back. Small maybe none, but it's not going 646 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: to come back. And I'm glad he got paid to 647 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: go play in Canada and I've got I'm really glad 648 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: Yas got paid too. That's yeah, me too. 649 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: He does specific things really well, and I do think 650 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: that sometimes fans don't necessarily appreciate, like you look, go 651 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: look back and yeah, led the team in war a 652 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: lot of years, and hands are like, I don't get 653 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: why that the Giants are keeping him around. The defensive 654 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: excellence in that outfield was just off the charts, and 655 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: you know, he did one of the best base runners 656 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: I've seen, not not particularly fast, but just a great 657 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: But that's when he started making mistakes. At one point 658 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: earlier in the season, I was like, oh, this is 659 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: this is a weird year. 660 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: So this is one of these we're getting toward the 661 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: end here. 662 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: I know, I know we're imagine that we're talking too much. 663 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: Here's this one's from you best attempt to grow facial hair. 664 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: If you guys can't figure out which ones are my contributions, 665 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: contributions and n fps. He's got like these best atten 666 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: to grow facial hair, you go. 667 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: I like Chappie stash where Chappie has a stash at 668 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: third base. Matt Chapman, I know you're not a mussy. 669 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: You get mad when I grow mustache. Matt Chapman or 670 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Logan Webb's attempt at a mustache was pretty good too, 671 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with those two. 672 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was. It was great, it also 673 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: looked a little strange. I thought that this was potentially 674 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: a sarcastic question and a chance for as to kind 675 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: of mock guys who are not that all those years 676 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: I covered Sunny Gray and Oakland. He tried every year 677 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: to grow a mustache and and failed, and it was hilarious. 678 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Hayden bird Song in that category also 679 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: because he really, you know, the guys with the blonde hair, 680 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: and especially the younger they are, it seems like a 681 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: tough time. So that did kind of make me laugh 682 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: a little bit. 683 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: All right, this is when I put this one in 684 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: let's go most likely to win a Tony Award at 685 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: the Giants. Is it Koran Theater. I don't even know theater, Yes, yes, 686 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: the Koran Koran Theater in theater. All right, I listened 687 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: to that band in the eighties. Man Korean Korean. They're awesome. 688 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, you go, you go first. 689 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: Well, I've got to again because I just can't ever 690 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: pick one. Patrick Bailey with his pitch framing, I'm going 691 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: to say, would probably be a very excellent, sort of 692 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: like subtle actor. But if you want to go for drama. 693 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 2: Having seen Matt Chapman in the midst of a fight 694 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: or two over my career, I like Matt Chapman for 695 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 2: the drama for sure. 696 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will go Logan Web probably win a Tony 697 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: someday at the theater when he's done. So everybody making 698 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: fun of that, you know, he could probably won one. 699 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: And Matt Chapman looks like an actor. I forget. I 700 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: saw something the other night. I'm like, that's Matt Chapman. 701 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't know the guy's name because I suck at names, 702 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: which is not good for a broadcaster. But yeah, there's 703 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: a there is an actor in everybody watching this right now, 704 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Who is Matt Chapman. They're like twins. 705 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: I don't know who you're talking about, but I do 706 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: know that when you talk in webs, the obvious is 707 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: Jesse Plemons, who potentially could win an oscar this year. 708 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: Is absolutely tremendous in Begonia, which I wasn't a huge 709 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: fan of overall, but his performance is staggering. I mean, 710 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: he's just he's just great. So this is we have 711 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: another f pak category. Of course, this is an f 712 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: peak category most likely to bite an opponent or I 713 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: think you even include a teammate. I don't want to 714 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: see anybody by anybody at all. I'm, as you know, 715 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: a big soccer fan. And when louis Liverpool like, please 716 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 2: stop biting people, it's not okay, So that's my little 717 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: p s A. No, don't no biting. 718 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert bit Robbie Ray, So Drew Gilbert, Robbie and 719 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: so Drew Gilbert. 720 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's easy. You just want to save Drew 721 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: Gilbert for a lot. 722 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: I haven't really talked about him enough on here. I 723 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: love that guy. All right, what's the next week? This 724 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: is whoopsie, this is my chance to take a shot 725 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: at Giants fans for letting Dodger fans buy all the tickets. 726 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: But it's been explained to me some friends who are 727 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: season ticket holders, and I don't know if this is 728 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: an excuse, And you guys can go nuts in the 729 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: comments about this, I'm sure you will, But some people 730 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: are able to pay for their season tickets by selling 731 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: these tickets to Dodger fans because they're paying a premium price. 732 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: But that's no excuse. I'm sick of seeing all the 733 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: Dodger blue at Oracle Park for these Dodger Giants games 734 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: up terrible boom. 735 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 2: I agree partly because the atmosphere in the ballpark does 736 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: wind up being pre fund and I will say the 737 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: same in reverse going to Dodger Stadium when the Giants 738 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: are there, that Giants fans come out pretty full force 739 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: there and it's it is fun and I've gotten like 740 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: sat in the stands in both places during the rivalry 741 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: just kind of check it out, and it's like you 742 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: get people like it's pretty funny. Both sets of fan 743 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: groups are pretty funny. But I've also got a little 744 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: soft spot in my heart for Dodger fans because I 745 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: don't know if people remember it all. But on social 746 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: media a couple of years ago I had mentioned I 747 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: had a really bad experience leaving the ballpark one day 748 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: with a a person who sort of accosted me probably 749 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 2: maybe not not quite maybe on a substance or something 750 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: or other. It was kind of scary, and a big 751 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: group of Dodger fans kind of put me right in 752 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: the middle of them and like walk me all the 753 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: way to my car, which fact that we were part 754 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 2: parked quite away from you know, this was at Oracle uh, 755 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: and people were like, this guy followed us the whole way, 756 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: which was several blocks, so it was it was a 757 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 2: little frightening, But that little group of Dodger fans really 758 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: took care of me that day, So this spot for 759 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: them seem not all bad. 760 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: The best visiting fan base is the Niners fans period. 761 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, best road city you and you and 762 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: I spend a lot of time on the road. We 763 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: like to go go out and see some of the 764 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: town while we're there. You know, it's easy to say 765 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: New York and Chicago those a Davis and they are 766 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: freaking great towns. But for you FP, what are you 767 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: gonna say Turlock. 768 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go with the Chicago's my favorite. I 769 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: love New York too. We had a day off in 770 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: New York this year before the Yankees series, so we 771 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: got it at two in the morning, had a full 772 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: day in the Big Apple. I spent a lot of 773 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: time there when I was on the East Coast. I 774 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: love New York, but nothing beats Chicago in the summertime. 775 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: And if you ask, if you did a poll with players, 776 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: I think they have I think Chicago wins every year. 777 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: Wrigley Field, Wrigley Field my favorite place. Spread my ashes 778 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: on Wrigley Field when I pass away. That's my favorite 779 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: place on the planet. And Chicago, just the run along 780 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Lake Shore and seeing the volleyball courts and then the 781 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: restaurants and the bars at night, the ballpark, the two 782 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: o'clock start on a Friday at wrigley Field, when you're 783 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: done by five and then streets are closed down, nothing 784 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: beats it. 785 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: Most underrated, I'm going to say, and we didn't add 786 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: this is a category, but I'm just gonna just to 787 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 2: throw out something different. Pittsburgh. Love Pittsburgh. It's a beautiful city. Underrated, beautiful. 788 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: The ballpark can't be topped trusted at sensational ballpark, really 789 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: fun fans, and there's a nice little restaurants seen downtown. 790 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: That's I'm not sure people realize Pittsburgh. It might not 791 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: be what you think from I don't know TV and 792 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: movies and stuff. It's really it's really changed, really fun. 793 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 2: So I always love doing that. Here's this is another 794 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: FP question, maybe because like, look at you. Who do 795 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: you think is most likely to become a broadcaster? Since 796 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: you're a broadcaster. 797 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is the most improved city. I slip on the 798 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: cigarette butts there every time I jog, though, and I 799 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: think I might have foot cancer. Let's go. Most likely 800 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: to become a broadcaster Tristan Beck. He came on my 801 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: show in Camby Are once. Oh my god, like if 802 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: he wants to be a broadcaster when he's done, he 803 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: went to Stanford. I think I love about Tristan, Like 804 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: he loves baseball whatever. He loves baseball and he's passionate 805 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: about it. And I've gotten to know him over the years. 806 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: But he doesn't need baseball like I needed baseball. I mean, 807 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: there is nothing else. I'm not the most well routed person, 808 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: but he's got that Stanford degree in his back pocket. 809 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: When he came on CAMBYR. He really loved it. He 810 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: did like a whole hour with me in studio at Cambre. 811 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: And I've told him many times if he wants to 812 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: be a Major League broadcaster MLB Network, Giants whatever, when 813 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: he's done, he's the guy like he's got the skills. 814 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: He could do it right now if you wanted to. 815 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. Here's one thing about Tristan Back. I 816 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: don't know if I've mentioned it before, but the year 817 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: he was out after he had the had to have 818 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: the surgery because of the aneism in his arm, he 819 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: was the most valuable member of the Giants Community office, 820 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: basically the community fund. He volunteered for everything. He was 821 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: a ballpark every day. He lives in San Francisco, and 822 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: this is a guy who's really invested, not just in 823 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: the team, but in the community. And he talked to 824 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: groups of kids, he talked to season ticket holders. He 825 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: caught almost every first pitch, which you know guys are 826 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: getting ready for the game, Like that's not always the 827 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: duty people want. He's recovering some journey. He's like, I'll 828 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: do it. He will do anything, and I did a 829 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: story that year on My Favorite Giants promotion that they 830 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 2: do all year with a sort of the community fund 831 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: when the kids who haveac pediacric I can say it 832 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: pediatric cancer do the sketches of the players and they 833 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: use them on the on the board for when. 834 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: They walk up. Those are the best. 835 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 2: They're the best. That's my favorite data. And those kids 836 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: are such good artists and they're so sweet. So I 837 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: went uh and talked to a couple of the kids 838 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: when they were drying, and met a few of them 839 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 2: at their homes, and every single kid when I said, 840 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: who's your favorite Giants player, said Tristan Beck, because Tristan 841 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: Beck had come and spent the day drawing with them. 842 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, of course, of course. So I mean, 843 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: too long an answer for that. So our final one, 844 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: we're going to wrap up what projections for next year 845 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: team MVP FP and let's see top rookie and win total. 846 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: What do you think? 847 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you just springing this on me. MVP 848 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: is going to. 849 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: Be raffisk on your feet. 850 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: Raffy Dever is gonna be MVP. He't forty because he's 851 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: acclimated to his new digs and he knows his new team. 852 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: What was the second one? 853 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: I can't rookie top rookie next year, Gilbert Drew. 854 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: Gilbert is going to go off. He is, He's going 855 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: to like blossom into under Tony Vaytello as his college coach. 856 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: That could be a weird dynamic though, almost like playing 857 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: for your dad. Sometimes that does work, sometimes that doesn't work. 858 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: We'll see how that whole thing works out. And then project. 859 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: I don't project wins, Susan I said ninety four last year, 860 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: I was way off. So nobody wants to hear my 861 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: projection for wins. 862 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll just go through mine really fast. Now. 863 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: The first one's the same divers that's a So that's 864 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 2: such an easy one. Acclimated. Rafael Devers, Happy, Rafael Devers 865 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 2: full spring training with the team. Fantastic. I think that's 866 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: a no brainer Rookie of the Year. I think it's 867 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: going to be Hey, sus Rodriguez, if he comes up, 868 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: I think the kid will hit. He's learning to catch, 869 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 2: but I think he is getting better. I just keep 870 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: and I know I've mentioned this before when Buster Posey 871 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: says he particularly has an eye on a young catcher 872 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: that makes me listen. So I really like the sound 873 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: of him, and I hate doing win projections too. I'm 874 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: always off by about three, like probably in the optimistic 875 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: side for you know what Giants fans or Giants players 876 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: would want. In my head, I'm saying eighty six, which 877 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: maybe probably probably eighty three, but that would have gotten 878 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 2: them into the postseason this year. So but I do 879 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe an eighty five eighty six Winson somewhere. 880 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll make a prediction when the team is set 881 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: and locked and loaded and the roster is set in 882 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: scott So how about that. It's hard to guess if 883 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: you're going to sign players or not before then. 884 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we keep hoping that at some point we're going 885 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: to have a show where there's some news to talk about, 886 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 2: but it feels like it's been a while for news, 887 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: so fingers crossed. 888 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: We don't we best attempt to grow facial hair stuff. 889 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: It's way better, all right, Susan Happy New Year to 890 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: you and everybody out there. Have a safe New Year's 891 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: because it's rookie night, so be careful out there. It's 892 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: definitely amateur night. But have a safe and happy new year. 893 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. To you guys. We'll see you next week. 894 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: We do two of these a week. We'll see you 895 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: guys next week. That was a fun show. I had 896 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: a blast you in that and we went forty four minutes. 897 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: That's our longest show yet, just yapping away about stupid things. 898 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 1: All Right, Susan, take care. Thanks for joining us today. 899 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. To everybody out there, reappreciate you 900 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: guys watching and listen. Happy New Year's and like I 901 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: sayd the way out every single time. 902 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: Swing heart in case you hit it. Send