WEBVTT - The Paramount Decrees: Paramount’s Beginnings - Pt. 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Holly Fry and I'm Tracy d Wilson. Tracy, It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for a little bit of film history, which I

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<v Speaker 1>always love. This is one that seems especially engaging to

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<v Speaker 1>me because of this weird time we're loving through. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't help but look at everything through that lens um.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that this pandemic is impacting virtually every industry

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<v Speaker 1>in a variety of ways, and the film industry is

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<v Speaker 1>no exception. Studios, of course shut down in the spring

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<v Speaker 1>when the pandemic was declared, but so did theaters. Some

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<v Speaker 1>have reopened, some have not. And as we've all seen,

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<v Speaker 1>films that were already made or in post production have

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<v Speaker 1>been all over the place in terms of how they've

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<v Speaker 1>been distributed to consumers. And that, along with some other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we will get to as may me think

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<v Speaker 1>about film distribution historically, and so initially I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the paramount decrees of That is a case

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<v Speaker 1>that's been in the news lately, and it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>example of how things that have happened in the past

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<v Speaker 1>still offer up some surprises decades later. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>started working on it, I really found myself wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>dig a little bit deeper into how things got to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where that particular court case happened, starting with

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<v Speaker 1>how the studios developed, because those two things are inextricably intertwined,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it has roots in very early days of

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<v Speaker 1>the motion picture industry in the US, So just how

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<v Speaker 1>the studio system grew led to what happened legally, and

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<v Speaker 1>this becomes a lot, so we are splitting it into

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<v Speaker 1>two parts. So in this first episode, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the people and events that led to the

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<v Speaker 1>establishment of Paramount Pictures as a key player in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie industry. And then in the second episode, we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the two court cases against Paramount out as

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<v Speaker 1>well as other defendants in the first half of the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. And then we're going to touch on recent

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<v Speaker 1>developments that are related to all of those legal proceedings

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<v Speaker 1>which went on for years and years and recent means recent,

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<v Speaker 1>very weeks ago as of when we are recording this.

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<v Speaker 1>So to really get to the roots of this story,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to start with Adolph Zuker. Zucker was born

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<v Speaker 1>on January seventh, eighteen seventy three and richer Hungary, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Hungarian his last name would be were like Zuker,

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<v Speaker 1>but he seems to have stuck with a pretty Americanized version.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time he was seven, he had already lost

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<v Speaker 1>both of his parents. He never really knew his father,

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<v Speaker 1>who died when Zucker was one, and although his mother

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<v Speaker 1>had remarried, instead of staying with his stepfather, he was

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<v Speaker 1>moved to live with his uncle. And though the family

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<v Speaker 1>had hoped that Adolph would become a rabbi, his fascination

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<v Speaker 1>was studying religious history was really all about the stories

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<v Speaker 1>and much less about the spiritual aspects of Judaism, at

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<v Speaker 1>least as a personal calling. As a teen, at Off

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<v Speaker 1>instead became an apprentice to a shopkeeper, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>through the shopkeeper's daughters that he learned about pulp fiction

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<v Speaker 1>from the United States. The prospect of being a shopkeeper

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<v Speaker 1>was really not any more appealing to add Off than

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a rabbi had been. He eventually convinced his family

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<v Speaker 1>to let him sail to the United States with a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny sum of money it's estimated at forty dollars. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to start a new life Yeah, that probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like a tiny sum at the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about starting a brand new life somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't go very far. This whole thing was a

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<v Speaker 1>really arduous undertaking. So first of all, he had to

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<v Speaker 1>book the lowest class of passage for the journey UH

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<v Speaker 1>that came with no amenities. There was a degree of peril.

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<v Speaker 1>Their stories about how he sowed his forty dollars into

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<v Speaker 1>the lining of his clothes so that no one would

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<v Speaker 1>rob him when he slept on the boat. And then

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<v Speaker 1>once he arrived in New York, he didn't know anybody

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<v Speaker 1>and he had to start entirely from scratch to try

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<v Speaker 1>to find work. He eventually settled into a position as

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<v Speaker 1>a furrier's apprentice. He first, according to most stories, started

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<v Speaker 1>out just sweeping the floor and then kind of became

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<v Speaker 1>an apprentice, but he was also taking classes at night

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<v Speaker 1>to improve his English, and some stories say he also

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<v Speaker 1>took classes uh in business as well. With then just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, he had become a skilled designer

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<v Speaker 1>and started working as an independent furrier by the age

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen. He moved to Chicago a year later in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety three, when the World's Colombian Exposition was there.

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<v Speaker 1>He wound up staying in the city and becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>partner in the novelty for company with a fifty percent share.

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<v Speaker 1>The business made a lot of money, but after a

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<v Speaker 1>misstep and predicting trends, Zucker really found his fashion career

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<v Speaker 1>on a downslide. And while he moved back to New

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<v Speaker 1>York and got back on his feet thanks to his

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<v Speaker 1>connections in the fur industry, Zucker was already starting to

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<v Speaker 1>think about film. He also got married during this time

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<v Speaker 1>in eight nine seven to a young woman named Lottie Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 1>They stayed married for the rest of their lives. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the four years that Zucker became friends with during

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<v Speaker 1>this time was Marcus Low. That name is familiar to

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<v Speaker 1>you because of Low cinemas. There's a reason Zooker even

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<v Speaker 1>took an apartment across the street from Low, and their

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<v Speaker 1>families remained friends for life. So he had previously mispredicted

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<v Speaker 1>a trend, the opposite happened in nineteen o two. He

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<v Speaker 1>made a small fortune after correctly predicting a trend for

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<v Speaker 1>Red Fox that year, and Zucker wanted to invest all

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<v Speaker 1>this money that he made it was somewhere between a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand and two hundred thousand dollars. His choice for

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<v Speaker 1>this was investing into the entertainment industry at often. Several

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<v Speaker 1>of his friends in the fur industry invested in a

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<v Speaker 1>penny arcade that was opened by Mitchell Mark in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o three. It was on Fourteenth Street near Broadway. This arcade,

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<v Speaker 1>nicknamed Automatic Vaudeville, made a hundred thousand dollars in its

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<v Speaker 1>first year. Zucker left the fur business completely soon after

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<v Speaker 1>that to expand his penny arcades into other locations, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next evolution of his entertainment business was to set

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<v Speaker 1>up an arcade with a theater to show motion pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>So the top floor of Zooker's Automatic Vaudeville was outfitted

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<v Speaker 1>with two hundred seats, and for a nickel, customers could

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<v Speaker 1>watch a fifteen minutes show. This shift to showing motion

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<v Speaker 1>pictures required some enticement. Zucker described this change in the

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<v Speaker 1>offerings of the arcade later in his life quote, we

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<v Speaker 1>had this empty floor over the arcade, about forty ft

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<v Speaker 1>by two hundred fifty feet. We put in two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>seats and then began to worry because it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>an awful lot, especially as most of our customers didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what moving pictures were and we're used to paying

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<v Speaker 1>one cent, not five. So we put in a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>glass staircase. Under the glass was a metal trough of

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<v Speaker 1>running water like a waterfall, with red, green, and blue

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<v Speaker 1>lights shining through. We called it Crystal Hall. And he

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<v Speaker 1>well paid their five cents, mainly on account of the staircase,

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<v Speaker 1>not the movies. It was a big success. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like such great packaging, right That staircase sounds pretty cool?

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<v Speaker 1>It does. Zoocker routinely sat in the sixth row of

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<v Speaker 1>the Crystal Hall theater while movies ran, and he would

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and watch the faces of the audience in

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms behind him as they reacted to the movies

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<v Speaker 1>that were being shown. And he noticed the patterns in

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<v Speaker 1>what worked for audiences and what didn't, and he used

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<v Speaker 1>that information to make decisions about what films to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen o four, the St. Louis World's Fair featured

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<v Speaker 1>a novelty movie experience called Hale's Tours of the World,

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<v Speaker 1>was named for their inventor, George C. Hale. The attraction

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<v Speaker 1>was basically a decommissioned train car that had been set

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<v Speaker 1>up as a theater. The theater attendants dressed as train conductors,

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<v Speaker 1>and once they were inside, customers were shown travel films

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<v Speaker 1>while the car rocked and shook and the bell clanged

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<v Speaker 1>as though the whole thing we're traveling through a u

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<v Speaker 1>a Pean town our countryside. Zooker loved this thing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He bought the rights to offer Hales Tours in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he opened Hales Tours in Coney Island, Newark

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<v Speaker 1>and Pittsburgh after that. And initially they were really huge draws.

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<v Speaker 1>But two things ultimately doomed the Hales Tour to a

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<v Speaker 1>short life. One, once an audience had experienced this, the

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<v Speaker 1>novelty kind of wore off. There were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that wanted to keep going back on the same tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Two new films were not being made, even though Zooker

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<v Speaker 1>is said to have asked the team at the newly

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<v Speaker 1>formed motion picture Patents company that is also known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Edison Trust and will reference that name a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>coming up to make more of them, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>not really interested in going in filming the European Countryside anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite its initial success. Hales Tours ultimately landed Zooker's company

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<v Speaker 1>and six figure debt. While his business partners wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>consider declaring bankruptcy, Zucker would not hear of it. He

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<v Speaker 1>had another idea. Over the next two years, Zucker let

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<v Speaker 1>a project that turned all of the Hales Tour locations

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<v Speaker 1>into regular movie theaters. At the end of those two years,

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<v Speaker 1>the company was out of debt and turning a profit,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still had the problem of not having enough

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<v Speaker 1>new films to satisfy him. In nine, Zooker's company combined

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<v Speaker 1>with that of his friend Marcus Low. Low had also

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<v Speaker 1>been opening successful theaters of his own, and once the

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<v Speaker 1>companies combined under the Low Enterprises name at alf Zookers

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<v Speaker 1>work shifted completely. He focused on movies entirely, not so

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<v Speaker 1>much on the marketing or the locations or building out theaters,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the movies first, by traveling both the US

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe and simply going to the movies and watching

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<v Speaker 1>the audience and kind of tracking their reactions. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk in a moment about how the information that

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<v Speaker 1>Zooker collected led him to develop bigger projects, but first

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<v Speaker 1>we will pause for a quick sponsor break. Adolph Zucker

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to explore the idea of longer form content instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the short films that were being produced in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen hundreds. He had a vision that was for

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that was not just something for casual foot

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<v Speaker 1>traffic crowds of a busy city, but a level of

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment that would draw a crowd the same way as

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<v Speaker 1>theatrical play mind and that is how he came to

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<v Speaker 1>found the Famous Players Company, which was named for his

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<v Speaker 1>motto of famous players and famous plays. As that motto suggests,

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<v Speaker 1>Zucker wanted to get talent with established name recognition from

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<v Speaker 1>theater to star in films that were based on well

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<v Speaker 1>known plays. Yeah, in a lot of cases it was, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got famous doing this play on Broadway. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>film that play and make it a movie. Famous Players

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<v Speaker 1>Company was actually set up more as the distributor to

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<v Speaker 1>release Zooker's first movie after production was already completed. That

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<v Speaker 1>movie was Queen Elizabeth, which starred Sarah Bernhardt. The film

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<v Speaker 1>had been shot in France and it was a British

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<v Speaker 1>French production with the title les a mur de la

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabet or simply La Elizabeth, and Zooker secured the U

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<v Speaker 1>S distribution rights for either thirty five thousand dollars or

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<v Speaker 1>forty thou dollars, depending on who you listen to. That

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<v Speaker 1>was considered an absurdly high amount of money, but Zooker

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<v Speaker 1>paid it, and then he had the film premiere at

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<v Speaker 1>Broadways Lyceum Theater on July twelfth, n twelve as a

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<v Speaker 1>huge event. The ticket price was massive for the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a dollar. Remember, he had been charging five

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<v Speaker 1>cents for his theaters in the automated vaudeville. But Zooker's

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<v Speaker 1>effort to market this longer length film, trading on Bernhard's

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<v Speaker 1>fame and the fresh concept of a longer form it

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<v Speaker 1>ran more than forty minutes, was ultimately very successful. So

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<v Speaker 1>from there things moved really quickly for Zooker. He got

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<v Speaker 1>more Broadway actors to make films based on plays that

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<v Speaker 1>they were already famous for this time with his company

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<v Speaker 1>actually making the films. He made versions of The Prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>of Zenda and The Count of Money Christo and several

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<v Speaker 1>other films, and less than a year he also left

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<v Speaker 1>low enterprises to focus on famous players company full time.

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<v Speaker 1>He transitioned Mary Pickford to film, initially paying her five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars a week, which was more than two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half times when she was making on Broadway. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Pickford was of course catapulted to stardom, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>she probably could never have anticipated eventually getting paid ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a week just a few years later. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not adjusted. That's ten thousand dollars in nineteen teens money.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixteen, Adolph Sucker merged his company with another

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<v Speaker 1>film company run independently by Jesse Laski. They created famous

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<v Speaker 1>players Laski. While Zucker was establishing himself in film, he

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<v Speaker 1>had also gotten into business with a man named W. W. Hodginson,

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<v Speaker 1>who was working on his own venture in the entertainment world.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk about Hodginson for a minute. William

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<v Speaker 1>Hodginson was born in eighteen eighty one in Pueblo, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>His middle name was either Wallace or Wadsworth, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what source you look at. Some sources include both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>The Online Archive of California, for example, which has a

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<v Speaker 1>collection of his papers, even lists him both ways in

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<v Speaker 1>the finding aid that accompanies that collection. There's not a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of information about Hodginson's early life. He worked

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<v Speaker 1>on a railroad, telegraph and as a salesman for a

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence school before moving into the entertainment business. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven, he opened one of the first movie theaters

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. That was in Utah. Uh Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He originally started out in Ogden and eventually spread to

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<v Speaker 1>other places. He has some Salt Lake footprints. But Hodkinson

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<v Speaker 1>founded Paramount Pictures in nineteen fourteen. That Paramount Pictures not

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<v Speaker 1>what we think of today. It was strictly a distribution company,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hodginson was completely changing the way films were distributed.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to that point, distribution had to primary models. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there were regional rights, also called states rights. In this model,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie producer would sell their films to a salesperson

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<v Speaker 1>who had a regional distribution network, and then that person,

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<v Speaker 1>who then owned a copy of the film, would take

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<v Speaker 1>that copy to theaters to be played for audiences. The

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<v Speaker 1>salesperson would be paid by the theater owner. This usually

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<v Speaker 1>meant that the same film would be played basically until

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<v Speaker 1>it was unwatchably damaged. Because the regional person wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make as much money off their investment in purchasing that

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<v Speaker 1>copy of the film as they possibly could. This meant

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<v Speaker 1>money up front for the producer, but then the regional

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<v Speaker 1>salesman made all the money after that. It also meant

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<v Speaker 1>that the producer had no control over the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>their film that the audiences might see. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it late in the run, it might look terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>We have all been to second run theaters and you

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<v Speaker 1>know how it is a different experience, so imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>getting worse and worse and worse. The second distribution model

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<v Speaker 1>at this time was called the road show, and in

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<v Speaker 1>this scenario, the producer would enter into a contract with

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<v Speaker 1>a popular first run movie theater to run their movie

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<v Speaker 1>as a limited run special engagement. So this was treated

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like a special event. Think of it like

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<v Speaker 1>a touring production of a play. And ticket prices reflected

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<v Speaker 1>that the road show approach made a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>for producers upfront because of the higher cost to the consumer,

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<v Speaker 1>but that also only lasted for a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>These two approaches were often used in combination, so the

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<v Speaker 1>producer would have the limited run road show and then

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<v Speaker 1>would sell States rights copies. The road show screenings would

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<v Speaker 1>serve as part of the advertising model to drum up

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<v Speaker 1>interest as the film made its way into other markets

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<v Speaker 1>through this regional rights distribution. But Paramount Pictures was designed

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of that regional approach. Hodkinson thought that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be better to arrange nationwide distribution plans with

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<v Speaker 1>producers getting a cut of the profits from the box office.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of doing this weird we sell you the movie

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<v Speaker 1>and you sell the movie to theaters. It was we

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<v Speaker 1>arranged for the theaters to do this and we'll all

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<v Speaker 1>make money together. This was so that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a motivation for production companies to focus on quality. Better

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<v Speaker 1>films would draw more audience and make more money for everybody. Typically,

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<v Speaker 1>Hodkinson took thirty five percent of the profit and the

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<v Speaker 1>producers got and that went on as long as the

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<v Speaker 1>picture played, so a big change from producers giving up

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<v Speaker 1>all rights to profit once they had sold a print

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<v Speaker 1>to a regional distributor. Also, Paramount was providing money to

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers as part of their deals, so while the company

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't making movies, it was financing them. Hodkinson, with a

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger stake in films, got exclusive distribution rights, so

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<v Speaker 1>he got control over how and where they were shown.

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<v Speaker 1>He would determine what markets and what specific theaters were

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<v Speaker 1>the best match for a given film. He negotiated deals

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<v Speaker 1>with UMAs that he arranged for marketing. This cut out

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<v Speaker 1>the sale of Prince to regional salespeople entirely. Another interesting

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of Paramount was that it wasn't exclusively Hodginson's company.

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<v Speaker 1>The producers who were part of his distribution model all

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<v Speaker 1>owned a piece of the business. They were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like foundational members. Hodkinson started working on this idea when

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<v Speaker 1>he was working for the General Film Company in nineteen eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>The General Film Company was the distribution company that was

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<v Speaker 1>created by the Motion Picture Patents Company that is, once

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<v Speaker 1>again the Edison Trust. But while Hodginson's test efforts in

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<v Speaker 1>this model did really well, things did not go over

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<v Speaker 1>so well with the Edison Trust. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about the Edison Trust and its practices, but

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<v Speaker 1>first we will take another quick sponsor break. Now. The

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<v Speaker 1>Motion Picture Patents Company had formed in nineteen o eight

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to get the film industry, which was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all over the place in terms of technology

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<v Speaker 1>and stability, to homogenize and settle on one standard. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this a little bit on previous shows, like

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<v Speaker 1>when we talked about the Lumire brothers and and some

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<v Speaker 1>others and how everybody was developing like their own films,

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<v Speaker 1>their own cameras, etcetera. But this trust involved a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of companies, some of which you have also heard of

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<v Speaker 1>on the show before. So obviously Edison, Vitograph, Biograph S

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<v Speaker 1>and a Sellig Lubin, Callum path A, Melliaise, and Gaumont.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these different players had been involved to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree in the patent wars around the various technologies that

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<v Speaker 1>had been developed in this new industry. But by assembling

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<v Speaker 1>as a trust, they had almost all of the industry's

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<v Speaker 1>patents and they were in a position to demand that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone showing a motion picture had to pay the Trust

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<v Speaker 1>a licensing fee for the technology that was involved. Eastman

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<v Speaker 1>Kodak was under contract to only sell film to licensees

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trust. Film length was limited by the Trust

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<v Speaker 1>to ten to twenty minutes, and actors were not credited

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<v Speaker 1>per their rules. Yeah, the Edison Trust was like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>credit actors because famous actors will start asking for more money.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to create a financial problem. Also, like they

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to control everything. Rolled my eyes really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, independent filmmakers and small theater owners

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<v Speaker 1>were not big fans of the Trust. And we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>before that you know, there was a desire for longer films,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they weren't letting enough film be sold to

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<v Speaker 1>make longer films, that couldn't happen either. Some of these

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<v Speaker 1>creators opted to import film and equipment from Europe to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get around the trust's monopoly, and the Trust

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<v Speaker 1>was really not keen on Hodkinson's ideas, which shifted things

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<v Speaker 1>around in a way that would change their model of

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<v Speaker 1>extracting licensing fees for everyone along the line in a

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<v Speaker 1>film's production and distribution and ultimately mean that they made

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<v Speaker 1>less money. The us In Trust was eventually undone through

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<v Speaker 1>lost legal battles and legislation. In nineteen thirteen, the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court ruled in Bower and Ce versus O'Donnell that

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<v Speaker 1>a patent holder couldn't fix pricing related to use of

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<v Speaker 1>that patent. The following year, Congress passed the Clayton Antitrust Act,

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<v Speaker 1>which was designed to regulate businesses and prevent monopolies, and

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<v Speaker 1>its regulations meant some of the trust's practices were illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a nineteen seventeen case of mp PC

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<v Speaker 1>versus Universal Film Manufacturing Company, in which the court ruled

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<v Speaker 1>in Universal's favor that once a patent was licensed, the

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<v Speaker 1>licensey was not legally bound to the licenser for any

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<v Speaker 1>other reason. By the time all of these paddles played out,

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<v Speaker 1>most film producers had migrated to Hollywood to get away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Edison Trust and do things their own way. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>back to Hodginson, he approached this issue of wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>convince his bosses that he was onto something important really methodically.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of nineteen twelve, he made two charts

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<v Speaker 1>that compared the projected future of the film industry with

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<v Speaker 1>this method in place, versus the continuation of the States

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<v Speaker 1>rights and road show approach. He took these charts and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this data to New York to meet with

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<v Speaker 1>General Film Company leadership, but he was ultimately unsuccessful. Hodginson

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<v Speaker 1>had already implemented his distribution model in northern California as

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<v Speaker 1>part of his nineteen eleven testing, and his bosses told

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<v Speaker 1>him to change it back to the old way. He

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<v Speaker 1>refused and was fired in May of nineteen thirteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, like The theater owners in in the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco area loved this model. They were completely good

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<v Speaker 1>with it. But Hodginson did not leave the industry. He

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<v Speaker 1>believed in his new approach, and so he formed a

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<v Speaker 1>company to distribute films for independent producers. That company, the

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<v Speaker 1>Progressive Company, got distribution deals with Famous Players Company and

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<v Speaker 1>Lasky Feature Play Company, which became founding members of Paramount.

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<v Speaker 1>Before those two companies merged together. Hodginson and Zooker had

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<v Speaker 1>actually meant when Hodginson had gone to New York to

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<v Speaker 1>plead his case with the heads of General Film. The

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<v Speaker 1>story behind the switch to Paramount from Progressive is that

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<v Speaker 1>Hodginson discovered on a visit back to New York there

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<v Speaker 1>was already a Progressive Pictures. It was in the New

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<v Speaker 1>York phone Book. This is also when he has said

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<v Speaker 1>to a first doodle the sketch of a mountain and

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<v Speaker 1>stars that has been the basis of the Paramount Pictures

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<v Speaker 1>logo ever since. Yep, they're still using it. Uh. In July,

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<v Speaker 1>Paramount took out a two page ad in the periodical

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<v Speaker 1>Moving Picture World touting the distributor partners throughout the US

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<v Speaker 1>that they had arranged with a map of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States showing how almost every part of the country could

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<v Speaker 1>be reached through Paramount, with the call to action to

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<v Speaker 1>local exhibitors quote, get in touch with our distributor in

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<v Speaker 1>your territory and procure the finest motion pictures the world

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<v Speaker 1>has ever seen. Famous Players Film Company, Jesse Alaski, Feature

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<v Speaker 1>Play Company, and bos Were Incorporated are all called out

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<v Speaker 1>as producers of Paramount distributed films in the ad, and

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<v Speaker 1>to ensure that potential customers knew that foreign pictures could

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<v Speaker 1>be obtained through Paramount as well. Along the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the spread was the phrase quote and the cream of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's market. In addition to the above manufacturers. Once

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<v Speaker 1>the Famous Players Last Ki Corporation was formed from the

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<v Speaker 1>two existing companies, it became the primary supplier of films

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<v Speaker 1>to Paramount as a distributor, making up an estimated seventy

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<v Speaker 1>of their distribution titles. There had been a bump in

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<v Speaker 1>the road early on in the relationship among these businesses. Zooker,

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<v Speaker 1>Laski and other producers had all signed five year contracts

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<v Speaker 1>with Paramount, but because of the entirely new nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the distribution model they were agreeing to, they didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>grasp how much power it gave Hodginson until later, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was problematic, even though producers were then making more

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<v Speaker 1>money than ever thanks to his changes to the business.

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<v Speaker 1>Zucker try to get out of his deal because of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Hodkinson would not have it and his anger, Zooker

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<v Speaker 1>saw a bigger opportunity and made a move. On March first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen, Zucker renegotiated his deal with Paramount, and this

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<v Speaker 1>was not as you might expect a situation to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of his existing deal early. No, it was instead

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<v Speaker 1>to extend the contract to twenty five years. That sounds kooky,

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<v Speaker 1>but man was he thinking eighteen steps ahead of everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>because over the next two months, Zooker and his friend

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Laski sold of their companies to Paramount. This also

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<v Speaker 1>sounds a little crazy, but it was part of a

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<v Speaker 1>multi layered plan to gain power for themselves. They used

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<v Speaker 1>the money from the sales as well as alone to

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<v Speaker 1>start buying Paramount stock on the down low until they

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<v Speaker 1>had accumulated a combined controlling share of Paramount. On June

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixteen, W. W. Hodkinson was forced to resign, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the Paramount treasurer, who was loyal to him.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Raymond Pauli. Zoocker was in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>reorganized company and Famous Players last Kie Corporation merged with

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<v Speaker 1>Paramount Pictures. The Paramount name was still used for distribution,

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<v Speaker 1>while Famous Players Laskie was still the production entity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those things that's always a little

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<v Speaker 1>confusing whenever you're reading like business histories. It still goes

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<v Speaker 1>on today. Right a business will get purchased by another,

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<v Speaker 1>or they'll merge, but they'll still keep using the separate names,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can get a little confusing. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on here. We have been part of

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<v Speaker 1>deals like that before, and we've tried to sort it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna sarcastically say, we've never had that happen

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<v Speaker 1>to us. Yeah, we know exactly what that's about. As

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<v Speaker 1>for Hodkinson, who was adamantly against the vertical integration of production,

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<v Speaker 1>distribution and exhibition that Paramount was now working with, he

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<v Speaker 1>went on to work in a number of new distribution companies,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which he founded for about a decade after

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<v Speaker 1>he was ousted by Zooker, and he moved into the

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<v Speaker 1>Dasian industry and out of entertainment in and that is

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<v Speaker 1>where we are going to pause for this episode. Next

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<v Speaker 1>time around will cover how Zookers newly combined entertainment Powerhouse

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<v Speaker 1>started using this massive footprint to push competitors to the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready for a little listener mail? I sure am.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from our listener, Dan, who wrote, Dear Holly

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<v Speaker 1>and Tracy, I'm very behind in my podcast listening. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>me too, three he said, I have only reached late

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<v Speaker 1>May in my playlist, and I consequently missed your June

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<v Speaker 1>twelve deadline. I'm writing because you said that you missed

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from fans during your tours. While we might never

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<v Speaker 1>have met, I am a total fan of you both.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your episodes. I've been a long time listener

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast, going back to the days of Candice

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh. I should know what happened to Candice. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also a longtime listener stuff you should know with

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and Chuck. I'm a Massachusetts resident and enjoy hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about Tracy's Boston adventures during COVID nineteen. I especially missed

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<v Speaker 1>the street festivals in the North End and getting a

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<v Speaker 1>Java Barry at Dairy Joy in Weston. Holly, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>a special connection to you. My family are big Disney

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<v Speaker 1>and Star Wars fans. My wife is a runner, ran

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<v Speaker 1>the Kessel Run at Run Disney in TV and her

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<v Speaker 1>first marathon at Walt Disney World in eighteen. I admit

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<v Speaker 1>to checking for your bib at that later race. If

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<v Speaker 1>you had entered, I would have asked you to meet.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a stitcher and used to craft costumes for

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween adventures for our nieces and nephews. My favorite was

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<v Speaker 1>a toy story takeoff when she made an Emperor's or

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<v Speaker 1>costume for my son and he got to deliver the

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<v Speaker 1>line buzz I am your cousin when he was unmasked.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed listening to your drawing, the story of animation podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>his avatar work as Phineas Jay whoopee again. Best wishes

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<v Speaker 1>do you both stay safe and thank you for all

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<v Speaker 1>the joy you bring. I won't suggest a topic for

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<v Speaker 1>an episode because I have always been delighted with whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you present. Dan, Dan, that's so sweet. That is so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I just wanted to read it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a delightful and nice email, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there are people who have very overlapping universes

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<v Speaker 1>of fandom with mine. Yeah, I have not run a

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<v Speaker 1>marathon's it's the one I ran in because that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and I didn't want to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran a lot of halves after that still, but

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't run in a while. But uh yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a super fun. It's one of those things. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how these things are going to work

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<v Speaker 1>going for at all. So I hope that your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, finds a way through uh and and is

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<v Speaker 1>able to do events that are interesting to her in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, because I have no idea what running events

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<v Speaker 1>will look like in another five years. Even I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any idea. But thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for sharing this with us. It makes me

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<v Speaker 1>so happy. And I'm always delighted when anyone listens to

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<v Speaker 1>drawing because I really loved doing that show. Um yeah, thanks, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Dan for all the things. And also because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that some people did miss that June twelve deadline

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<v Speaker 1>to post questions and because they like me and you

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<v Speaker 1>are I can't keep up with everything that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to. And there is no shame in that.

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<v Speaker 1>All the things that I used to listen to podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>during are not are not happening? Don't happen anymore? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much. Also just so much going on. Uh.

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