1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to the one on 3 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: only West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West to continue our discussion 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: from yesterday. The aftermath of this Packers Rams game at 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: the l A Colosseum certainly the toughest and most frustrating 7 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: loss for the Packers thus far in and uh, Mike 8 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: McCarthy made no bones about it in his press conference 9 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: on Monday. It was a very emotional locker room. This 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: was a team that put everything they had into this game. 11 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: They expected to win the game. They felt they had 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity to win it at the end, which then 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: they didn't get that opportunity obviously because of the fumble. 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Guys were upset, and uh, quite frankly, Mike McCarthy was 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: okay with that, because the alternative means that guys don't care. 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: And so if there's emotions running hot back and forth 17 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: and whatever, okay, you let hours go by and everybody 18 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: gets over it. But but this is a tough one 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: to get over. It is because again, the team played 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: well and because of that, there's going to be frustration 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: disappointment when you can't you know, achieve what is the 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: biggest goal, which was walking out of there with a victory. 23 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: So to some exset, I think that's what you expect. Now. 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: The important thing for the Packers is resetting this week 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: and being able to set the focus on the Patriots, 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: being able to set the focus on where they want 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: this team to go here through the month of November, 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: uh to you know, and you heard it in a 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: lot of voices. Obviously we weren't in the locker room, 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: but when players came out, most of them, if not 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: all of them were uh you know, available and talking 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: to the media. And the biggest comment that came along 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: with that, and what guys were echoing was that they 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: played a game well enough to win. So now what 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: do you do? How do you reset? You know, being 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: able to calibrate yourself to now trying to beat you know, 37 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: an even more difficult opponent in an even more hostile environment, 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: against the veteran quarterback that's seen and done at all. 39 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: That's where I think that you have to push this 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: thing forward. Understanding the emotions that got into it, the 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: players and their their thoughts and feelings. It's all gonna 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: come with it with a fifty three man roster, but 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: can you get that back together and I'll go into 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium looking for a really big victory. Yeah. We 45 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: talked about back when the schedule came out how tough 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: a stretch of schedule this was going to be. And 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: you know the way that Rams game ended on Sunday, 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: This is the type of week you'd really like to 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: be coming back and playing a home game. I don't 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: care who the opponent is. And it's not just a 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: going on the road to Gitette Stadium and facing Brady 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: and the Patriots. And we'll talk later in the week 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: about more specifically about the opponent, but the bottom line 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: is the Packers are oh and three on the road 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: and they just laid it all on the line on 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: the road against the best team in football and they 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: still came up short. You'd love to have a home 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: game this week to circle the wagon, so to speak, 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: get back above five. All of that kind of stuff. 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: That's not the reality. The reality is they have to 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: go on the road again. They have to try to 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: get their first road win of the season and get 63 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: this thing turned around. And the task just doesn't get 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: any tougher than what they're facing right now. They have 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: to bottle that energy. Kenny Clark was asked after the 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: game too about you know this is you know, they 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: played up to their competition with the Los Angeles Rams, 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: and they also had some games there against Washington and 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Detroit that I mean, I believe they were favored to 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: win those and not being able to come out on 71 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: the winning end. So it's about continuing to have that consistency, 72 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: that level of sense of urgency every single week. I'm 73 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: sure it's going to be there again against New England 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: because of who the opponent is, but it's gonna have 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to be there against Seattle and Century like it's gonna 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: have to be there when they go, you know, into 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Soldier Field, they have to be able in US Bank Stadium. 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, those are opponents, especially down the line here, 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: that are gonna really dictate where this season goes for 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: the Packers. The one thing that I thought was positive 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: that did come out of it was the fact that 82 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: they could see what they could do against one of 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the best, if not the best team in football. I 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: don't think there'll be as much debate Mike. If the 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Packers could have had that performance against Washington, against Detroit, 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: the way they protected the football for a majority of 87 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: the game, the way they were able to string together 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: series and defensive stops, they've come out victorious in those 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: other two road games. But again, the frustrating part that 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: factors into it is that they just didn't against you know, 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: the team that's right now the front runner in the NFC. Yeah. Well, 92 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: the continuing discussion, uh, sticking point, I guess you want 93 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: to call it. What this game was, the way it 94 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: ended with time Montgomery's fumble on the kickoff with two 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: minutes to go kickoff return with two minutes to go, 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: which prevented Aaron Rodgers from getting the one last possession 97 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: down by two, only needing a field goal to win. 98 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: Montgomery did not address the media after the game on Sunday. 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: He did address the media in the Packers locker room 100 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: on Monday. There's been a lot of stuff swirling around 101 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: in terms of his motivations and his decision. He came 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: out and said, basically explained that he wasn't sure exactly 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: where the ball was going to land, so he made 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: a split second decision to just take it and run 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: and not put the game in the officials hands. Um 106 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: still questionable judgment and everything like that, but he expressed 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot of dismay at any suggestion as to his 108 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: motives or his commitment to the team. And Mike McCarthy 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: certainly didn't go down that road either and just said, hey, 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: he made a mistake. We've all been there. Nobody feel 111 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: is worse than the guy who made a mistake. It's 112 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: time for this team to move on. And that's really 113 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: what the Packers have to do here. It's time to 114 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, it is Mike, and now you look 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: at I thought one of the more powerful things that 116 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: came out of the Monday locker room. I was in 117 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: a small group there with Truman Williams, and he mentioned 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: that after the game in the l A. Colosseum visiting 119 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: locker room, he actually went up to uh Time Montgomery, 120 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: a story that Montgomery collaborated on corroborated. Excuse me, um, instead, 121 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, just gave him some words, you know that 122 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: that things are going to be okay. And and yeah, 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: this is a low point right now, but we've all 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: been there. Truman william said, he's been there, He's needed, 125 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, teammates to pick him up too, and Montgomery 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: mentioned some of the conversations they had really hadn't some 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: of it had nothing to do with football. It was 128 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: a bigger picture than that, and understanding that a mistake 129 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: was made and you have to move on from it. 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I think the most the toughest thing for me listening 131 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: to Montgomery discussed this was kind of talking about sort 132 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: of the outside perception of this so unfortunate in the 133 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: age of social media where things are are at in 134 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: that regarding and it's it's not the Montgomery situation either. 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I just feel like, whether it's Twitter or Facebook, all 136 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: these things, and certainly there are certain aspects to it 137 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: that are positive, but the idea that people can just 138 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: sit behind an account and anonymously rip on people and 139 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: it almost feels to me like and the way we 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: are at right now in society, it's just that we're 141 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: almost looking for reasons to rag on people and to 142 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: bring people down, and I think that's unfortunate. I think 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: it needs to be about trying to bring people up 144 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: and and understand people's perspectives on life and how they 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: view things. I I just I sat down last night 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: even when I was working on Insider Inbox and I 147 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: was thinking about how I was going to approach the 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: show today with some of these topics. And you know, 149 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm a dad, now you're a dad. Uh Like, it's 150 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: just a part of me that gets a little nervous 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: about at for what our kids, my kid is, the world, 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: the way this thing is going, because we're about ten 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: years into this technological error right now, and I don't know, man, 154 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: It's there's certain things of it that are really disappointing. 155 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: It's a game Packers lost. Everyone feels terrible about it. 156 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you can call yourself a fan. 157 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can call yourself a human 158 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: um for some of the things that came out on 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: social media after that game, I'm I'm I'm with you, 160 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: I'm with you ad percent here West and I certainly 161 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: share Montgomery's um despair at at the state of humanity. 162 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: And he's talking about obviously a portion of humanity, not 163 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: not everyone, but UM, I personally don't understand um how 164 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: it how it makes anybody feel better to throw something 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: at somebody on social media, even whether it's a threat 166 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: that you're actually never going to follow through on our 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: But if that's what you have to do to feel 168 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: better about your favorite team losing a game, I'm sorry. 169 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: I just I feel sorry for you. Then, I mean 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: all of us, all of us are fans of one 171 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: team or another or multiple teams, whatever it is, there 172 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: are there are tough losses to deal with every single year. 173 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: That's but but that's that's part of being a fan, 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: and and everybody's going to have their own way of 175 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: dealing with things, and to too, to take it out 176 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: on other people just to try to feel better about it. 177 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. It's really disappointing. Um 178 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: I get it. It's frustrating. It is disappointing. I wrote 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: about it an inbox. You can feel all those emotions, 180 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: but to convey that kind of message was disheartening to 181 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: me because I just don't I don't get what. I 182 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: don't quite understand what leads to someone feeling like that's right. 183 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: But be that as it may. The packers have to 184 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: put that in the rearview right now. They need to, 185 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, get this locker room, you know, on the 186 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: same page, Get them on the same page of the field, 187 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: and to what Mike Daniel's original point was on Sunday afternoon, 188 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: you have to tighten up what needs to be tightened up. 189 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: It's all about the Patriots now. They got to put 190 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: this behind them. They have to learn from it and 191 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: try to once again kind of get on a run 192 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: here during a really difficult stretch of games. Yeah. 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Okay, you look at 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: this game against the Rams West. We talked about a 204 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: little bit on yesterday's show, and it bears repeating. Mike 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy certainly emphasized as well that performance by rookie cornerback 206 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Ji year L Alexander. Wow, I mean what can you 207 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: say this is and uh, you know, no offense to 208 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. But this wasn't against the Buffalo Bills. 209 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: This was against the Los Angeles Rams and one of 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the top offenses in this league. And he took a speedy, 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: big time playmaking wide receiver and Brandon Cooks eight targets, 212 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: three catches now three for seventy four yards. Seventy four 213 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: yards is pretty good. But Brandon Cooks, he didn't make 214 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: any backbreaking plays in this game. And for him to 215 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: have only three catches on eight targets, it's a huge 216 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: credit to Alexander. Yeah, it is. And he even mentioned 217 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: during the week that he was this was he was 218 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: getting up for this matchup. It was something that really 219 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: excited him. He had a good idea that he'd be 220 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: coming back from the hamstring injury. I love the comment 221 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: that Kevin King made after the game when he was 222 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: asked about it, like, I don't know what film they 223 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: were watching. I think that they were going to be 224 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: able to throw on them the way that they You know, 225 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: partly there isn't necessarily enough film on him because he 226 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: missed a couple of games with injury. He hadn't played 227 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: and then he obviously the pack has had the bye week, 228 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: so they maybe they hadn't seen a whole lot of 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: of of what he had done. Although the interception against 230 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota that got overturned on the Clint Matthewston, you know, 231 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean this guy has this guy has made some 232 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: plays in his limited time and then he made a 233 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: bunch of them in l A. Talking with Tremont Williams 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: to at his locker on Monday, he mentioned, like people 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: look at him and they you know, they bring up 236 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: the hype thing, but they don't really understand. Like he 237 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: is a big guy, Like he actually has some weight 238 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: to him. He has some size to him. It allowed 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: him to be able to drop his shoulders and make 240 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: a you know, an open field tackle on Cooks. For 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe a gain of one something 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: like that. He's he was all over the place. And 243 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: his ball skills, man, I mean, he just the way 244 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: he's able to track the football. Uh. He he can 245 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: press man the line of scrimmage. We saw him jam 246 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: uh Cooks a couple of times. He can stay with 247 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: him on slants. He has long arms. He can you know, 248 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: be able to get in on some of those past 249 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: deflections five pp us in this game. Pp uses an 250 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: interesting statistic. It's kind of hard to be able to 251 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: find up last time win, so I really do know 252 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: the last time we had a game where someone registered 253 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: that many. But I mean, we're in a league right 254 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: now where if you can get fifteen in the season, 255 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty darn if you if you average 256 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: one a week for an entire season, that that ends 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: up being a pretty good number and close to the 258 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: top of the league usually. Yeah, So for Alexander to 259 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: do that coming out of the gate, being down for 260 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: two and a half weeks, it was pretty impressive to 261 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: me to see him put that stretch together. Dude. Here's 262 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: the thing about Alexander to the Packers need him. They 263 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: they need that presence in this defense because you saw 264 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: with that package that Penton was using. I don't know 265 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: the name of it, so for the lack of a 266 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: better turn, I'm gonna refer to it as a nitro 267 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: package though, which was a term that Dom Capers used 268 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: to describe as a safety in the box with the 269 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. In this case, it was mostly Jermine Whitehead. 270 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: So six defensive backs on the field. Truman Williams talked 271 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: about it too, what they were able to do in 272 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: terms of moving some of those personnel pieces. Williams worked 273 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: in some of the slot. They were able to move 274 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: those guys around because of their versatility. I think if 275 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: this defense is going to be what they needed to 276 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: be the second half of the season, your Alexander, his 277 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: flexibility and his playmaking ability from that position is going 278 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: to be paramount because as you need your pass rushers, 279 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: you need your boundary cornerbacks. But with the way that 280 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: this league has gone, now, Mike, you need a playmaker 281 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: in the slot of those nickel packages with how much 282 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: you're playing it, the Packers look to have found one 283 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: of those. Alexander. Yeah. Now there's a lot being made 284 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: by some others with the fact that essentially Alexander was 285 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: playing outside corner in this game against Cooks and Tremon 286 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Williams moved into the slot. I'm not going to read 287 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: into that too much in terms of it being some 288 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of a permanent change, because I think this was 289 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: all about putting Alexander on Cooks. It was it was 290 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: matching him because because of Cook's size and speed and 291 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: shiftiness and big playability, they felt Alexander was the guy 292 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: who he can make plays beyond Cooks. And then Patton 293 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: essentially adjusted the rest of the defense from there, and 294 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: you had Um, you had Kevin King primarily on Robert 295 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Woods the other outside receiver. I think you know, we 296 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: we talked about it last week, getting those top four 297 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: cornerbacks ready or available, I should say, healthy and available 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: to play. Seeing King and Alexander on the field together 299 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: in coverage, I think that tandem is just what makes 300 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: this defense look different. Because we saw King miss some 301 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: some time earlier in the year, we saw Alexander miss sometime. 302 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: Those two guys as your young up and coming cornerbacks. 303 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: You can call them both first round picks, even though 304 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: technically Kevin King was the top pick in the second round, 305 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: but essentially your top draft picks of the last two 306 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: years at the same position. When those guys are on 307 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the field together, this defense looks different. Yeah, there, Ying 308 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: and Yang. When you look at their skill sets, their size, 309 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: what they offered to the table, and another thing Trumont 310 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Williams said to when you the way that Alexander carries 311 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: himself his voice fullness at only twenty one years old. 312 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: UM Mike McCarthy said he walked through the door with 313 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: a ton of complice and the play in this league. 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: But what I really like about it, Mike, and I've 315 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: said this to you a number of times now, is 316 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: that it does It's not just predicated on him having 317 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: five pass breakups in a game or being able to 318 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: match against a Pro Bowl type receiver like Cooks. The 319 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Packers lose a game, he still has that confidence. If 320 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: he gets beat, he still has that confidence. It's not false, 321 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: it's not synthesize that. He isn't something that he just 322 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: walks into the mirror and really just gets himself all 323 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: riled up. It's just who he is. And he's twenty 324 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: one years old. It's a twenty one year old rookie 325 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: cornerback that they said, you know what, there's Brandon Cooks 326 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: over there. You stay on him, you follow him. That's 327 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna be your responsibility. He's like, all right, cool, I'm 328 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: ready for it. Williams said it one of the last 329 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: things he said. He hasn't really been around a rookie 330 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: like this before, but he said, it's gonna make him 331 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: a great player in this league, for this team for 332 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: a long time, and it's gonna make him a great 333 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: leader too, because he walks the walk. He talks to talk, 334 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: and he's able to back it up and if something 335 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: goes wrong, he admits to it. You know, if something 336 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: doesn't work out for him, he says he's gonna learn 337 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: from it, and he has the short enough memory that 338 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: it isn't gonna dictate how he plays the next play. 339 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson Jr. L Xander, Kevin King. That is the 340 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: focal point right now for the secondary. They've invested the 341 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: resources into it and they're starting to see some of 342 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: it paid dividends. Yeah. Maybe one of my favorite moments 343 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: in this early stages here of Alexander's career was being 344 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: asked about getting his first career interception taken away on 345 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: the Clay Matthews thing, and he's just like, I'll get 346 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: some more, you know, and he's he's it's it's not 347 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: a line, it's just it's just those that response is 348 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: in him. It comes naturally to him. He just he 349 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: believes in his ability. I think he can be he 350 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: can be a huge player in this defense, especially paired 351 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: with Kevin King for for a long time. And it's 352 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: neat because I think there is a really thin line 353 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: between confidence and arrogance. But if you can straddle that, 354 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: if you can stay on the side of confidence, he 355 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: straddles it about as well as anybody. But you know it, Mike, 356 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks that have ever played this game no 357 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: that line. They edge near that line, and they stay 358 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: on that line. And I think that's the thing that's 359 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: impressive about Alexander. He just has a mentality that he's 360 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: just going to dominate no matter what happens. You get 361 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: him once, he'll be right back in your face the 362 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: next play. And I like the fact he talks to uh. 363 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: There was a couple of times throughout that game you 364 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: could see him jibber jabbering with Cooks and being able 365 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: to you know, sort of sort I don't want to say, 366 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what's said in those settings, 367 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: but you can just see that whatever he was saying, 368 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: he believed it. So I just think that um, as 369 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: I said on yesterday's show, there was there. It's a 370 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: tough game. It's a frustrating game, and it's tough to 371 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: to be able to put it behind you and move forward. 372 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: But it was one of the positives I drew from 373 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: it is that if this kid stays healthy. If everything 374 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: works out with the soft tissue injuries he's been playing 375 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: through earlier this year, he has the chance to be 376 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: a really big playmaker in this defense. Yeah, one other 377 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: thing I want to get to before we go today West, 378 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: and that's shifting things to the offensive side of the ball. 379 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: We saw, uh the offense kind of go through some 380 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: fits and starts again. Now, the Los Angeles Rams is 381 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: an undefeated team with a very good defense. They had 382 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that, and this wasn't to me. 383 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: It didn't feel like the same sort of fits and 384 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: starts we've seen against other teams where you're questioning, you know, 385 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: the quality of the defense that you're facing. But that 386 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: being said, if there's one bugaboo here still with this 387 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Packers offense, it's on third down. Sorry bugaboo, you don't 388 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: like that one. I like it, but but we talked 389 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: about it yesterday too. For nine on third down, you 390 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: still put up twenty seven points against one of the 391 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: best teams in the league. If you convert a couple 392 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: more third downs, who knows where you are in this 393 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: game now. The two third down conversions were the big 394 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: passes to Davante Adams, but all week long the Packers 395 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: had talked about and through the bye week talked about 396 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: staying out of third and longs. They've been in way 397 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: too many of the third and eleven plus is. I 398 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: think they only had one of those third and eleven 399 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: pluses in this game. There were a lot of manageable 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: third down, some third and twos and third in fives, 401 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: and they just still couldn't convert that. That's the that 402 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: to me, that's the one last step for this offense 403 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: to get to where it needs to be to try 404 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: to make a run here is when you're in third 405 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: and five, when you're in third and three, you've got 406 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: to convert. It's the bug. Yeah, I mean no, I 407 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: like that word. I'll be saying that one now for 408 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: the next four shows. Um it is. It's exactly where 409 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: it's at. And I think one thing that can really 410 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: help them is, Okay, randall cops back. Now, you have 411 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: jern Will Allison back. You're using a lot more receivers, 412 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: you're rotating guys, you're using a lot of different packages. 413 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: I do think that's gonna help it. I think that's 414 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna be big, and they just got to learn from it. 415 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean there's just I go back to something. Jordy 416 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Nelson always said, uh, And it wasn't like this, this 417 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: really attractive answer that ended up in the headline of 418 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: everybody's story the next day. But when things like this 419 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: would happen, Jordi would stand at his locker after games. 420 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: He said, we just got to get back to work. 421 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: We have to get worked in practice, we have to 422 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: get to work in the meeting room. Everybody wanted some 423 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: high salutant term that I was just going to solve everything. Yeah, 424 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: magic being. I mean, just just some some rhetoric that's like, okay, 425 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: well now now we're good. It's everything is good now. 426 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: He said this, it's everything's gonna change. It doesn't matter 427 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: what you say. It matters what's going on in the 428 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: meeting room twelve hours a day during the week. And 429 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: I always thought Nelson was very perceptive when he said 430 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: that stuff the packers are going to fix, the third 431 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: down thing has to happen in practice. It has to 432 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: happen in the meeting room. You have to break down 433 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: the film and figure out where the lapses are and 434 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: correct them, and then you know what, when it gets corrected. 435 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: The following Sunday, if something goes well, if you actually 436 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: start succeeding in that area, people will be looking for 437 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the same rhetoric about, oh, what amazing thing happened this 438 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: week that you guys changed it you studied. Yeah it's not. 439 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: It's not hey, somebody wore a special hatter and not 440 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: this outfit or or something like that that oh well, 441 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: that that just changed the tide and everything. No, it's 442 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: literally sitting down figuring out what you didn't do well 443 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: and you know what, Mike, do it better. Yeah, Yeah, 444 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: it's getting to work. I I the Packers showed so 445 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: much progress on Sunday in Los Angeles. There's more progress 446 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: to come at third down on offense is just one example. 447 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: There's other things on special teams and other other issues 448 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: we'll talk about. There's more progress to come. Mike McCarthy 449 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: sees it. He they're studying the film. They're gonna see you. 450 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: Even in the best game they've played so far this year, 451 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: They're going to see where they can be better. That's 452 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: what the focus is this week. Totally into not dem 453 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, diminished the original point. You can't You're not 454 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: going to get a forty yard Davante Adams play every 455 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: time to bail you out of those situations, you have 456 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: to convert on them, you have to improve on exactly. 457 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: It's just that the reality of it is it all 458 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: starts here, what happens out there. Yeah, I agree with 459 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: you with that. We're going to call it a wrap 460 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers on Script and be sure 461 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 462 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: Packers dot com on Twitter. You can still find him 463 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: at west hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for 464 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See you 465 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: next time.